Tuesday 1 February 2022

Bo Burnham in Inside

Bo Burnham won some Emmys for not portraying himself and Socko in Inside. 

The idea of performance is generally presented as someone playing someone else, though even this is often complicated by persons portraying fictionalized versions of themselves or the oft used, overly used really, critique of a performing "just playing themselves". The work in question in this instance is not quite that and rather falls into the concept of performance art. Where the lines between self and the performance are often obscured. Bo Burnham, other than his single scene of performing as Socko, is ostensibly playing Bo Burnham as he suffers from being Inside during COVID lockdown, inside his lonely space. Of course, this is presented as such, however, this isn't the truth, but rather the performance. The performance as Bo Burnham the comedian creating a special, but this special is unlike your typical comedian speaking in front of an audience, reacting to them, maybe even interacting with them. Burnham is alone, and his presentation is of a piece where there is a directorial vision to crafting this experience that is both singular yet emblematic of the idea many of us went through at this time.

Burnham's performance then fittingly is of a song and dance man, individual suffering from multiple anxieties in isolation, an internet influencer, and some pseudo philosopher. To which "role" he is fulfilling is typically dependent on the particular phase we see him going through, as he ages within this particular seeming depression of being isolated within his interior. What Burnham is then, are all these things, in this tapestry of self, while also being a commentary on self, while being a comedian on self, and just being maybe himself. The nature of the various songs speaks, or more correctly sings, to this point as they are of different styles, and perspectives to which is typically an analysis of Burnham as himself, or some kind of influence most often specifically related to the internet. To describe each performance of a song as just Burnham singing them would be a disservice to each song, and speaks to the performance of this art, where each performance style in a way creates some commentary or perspective towards the song. 

"Content", "Comedy" and "Problematic" are each of Burnham very playing the role of the comedian, one would assume himself, and in turn, you could argue are closer to Burnham's typical performance of his songs, even though playing a "character" is song isn't a new attribute, to begin with. "Content" is this giving comedian even if analyzing himself as he goes about it, though largely through adulation of providing his favor to the masses sort of way. "Comedy" is with the weight of some purpose that is to comedy, a recurring theme throughout the film, and Burnham's delivery is switched though to be more passionate, if also more deprecating. Both though cuing into both Burnham reflection as the social commentary of the comedian, while also speaking towards his position as a comedian that is defined by a more than a degree of privilege. Burnham's performance of both songs is as the hypocrite in so many ways, as speaking about the inappropriateness of the time for joking, while also making sure he's joking to be the center of attention. And with each, he's a great hypocrite. "Problematic" in a way is the theoretical "admission of guilt" however Burnham's performs it not as a guilt-ridden screed, rather the most middle of the road, blithe indifference even within the so-called admissions. Against that is very character-driven of "How the World Works", in that Burnham is literally playing Socko, the voiced sock with the innocence of a muppet, though with the intensity of a...muppet as well? This is about Burnham himself in the song though performing it as a Sesame Street adult performer with all the cheer and indifference until Socko starts mouthing out, and Burnham fashions a terrible glare, a callous intensity against his sock "friend". 

"Sexting" and "Facetime With my Mom" are companion pieces, odd as that is, as Burnham takes on the role of any man within the lock-down situation finding solace, or lack thereof. Very different in terms of final intent though similar in comfort. What Burnham's performance as each thought is of the specific redundancy even kind of lunacy with the act. Each though, despite their very different context Burnham is playing with these strange redundancies and specific disconnect. His performance is blithe with the songs, showing the often blithe nature of these interactions. Oftentimes Burnham though is playing with really rather elements of society, though really as per the perspective of what one would have the swiftest access to when closed off from the world. That being the internet. "White Woman's Instagram", "That Funny Feeling" and of course "Welcome to The Internet". Each performed so differently though similar in this commentary to the nature of the internet. "White Woman's Instagram" Burnham performs it as the fantasy of the titular Instagram where everything seems so perfect, however even while technically dealing with death and grief almost as an ambush due to the previous approach. "That Funny Feeling" though as kind of a folk song, Burnham in turn speaking random words associated with an internet search, though fashioned in his performance this calming even when describing a mass shooting. The randomness all filtered down though with the ease of treating it all in a strange kind of stride, almost sage-like. Speaking of sage-like, "Welcome to the internet" perhaps the greatest of the songs, is abrasive as Burnham performs it as this sinister huckster. First inviting you all to each and everything as though he were selling a geek show. Before assuming a calmer invitation to the young pup being invited to it all, before reversing towards a sinister intention, though even more sinister than before, and perhaps speaking towards the Internet's inviting though treacherous nature. 
 
Now as remarkable as every portrayal of every side and shade Burnham brings in crafting these variations of form within these songs, within it all, in between the songs, and during a few of them. It seems as though we are seeing Burnham himself, and that is where perhaps this performance seems the most pointed. This we see the man with his beard growing longer to Christlike proportions, and Burnham himself could be lying, or revealing a genuine vulnerability of someone slowly going inside in crafting his project while seemingly trapped. Now whatever trick, or non-trick, that Burnham is playing here, the end result here is remarkable as those variations of pseudo characters we see throughout. This is presenting his depression as it is seething throughout his time Inside. This as he seems to become slowly more exasperated and tired in every phase of this. Frankly, the songs illustrating this more so, in a way are reprieves of defense against Burnham perhaps being the depression. Whether that comedic caustic with "Shit", the far less obnoxious song featured in 2021 about turning 30 here just called "30", where Burnham does us all the grace in laughing at the idea, even if perhaps still examining it, doing it in a far more digestible way, or of course "All Eyes on Me" where he jests about COVID's unique stumbling block for his return to performing on stage. This is between seeing this particular deterioration as Burnham seems more lost, more isolated, with a greater life sucked out of him. He seems to be the man at the end of his rope in this strange predicament, barring some modicum of joy at the literal end of the piece. Is this Burnham, a part of him, the whole of him? It doesn't matter. What Burnham is showing us is a truly compelling portrayal of a man falling apart and attempting to find meaning, whether it be true, false or somewhere in-between.

But let's talk about what is really important, Burnham reacting to himself singing about unpaid interns. Commenting on his simple song as a YouTuber behind the "creative process". This with the awkwardness of someone not quite with it enough in the process and explaining the method as his insight in labor exploitation. He then begins to react to himself again. Reacting himself again though now with more confidence but also kind of a bit of deprecation of the pretensions of his previous statements. To only react again to backtrack on those statements, then to backtrack a bit more against himself for his self-awareness. Of course, speaking to reacting, my initial reaction to this performance does deep enough. Should I have spoken of every muscle twitch, and every bit of nostril flare. To react to that perhaps that extreme of description is a bit ridiculous. I mean Burnham is playing Burnham as a man reacting, which is a performance but kind of isn't. To react to that though I shouldn't dismiss, as almost every performance uses self whoever they may be playing. One shouldn't dismiss that. To react to that though, I should dismiss at times, but these reviews themselves are meant to be an overview of what the actor is doing and what the character's journey is. I'm not trying to be a technical guide on acting here. To react to that, hey it's just my opinion, and how seriously one should take what I'm doing here is up to the individual. To react that, duh it's the individual, and duh it's my opinion, I'm trying to at best articulate my thoughts and why a performance like Burnham successfully performs what it's trying to do. To react to that, this is clearly me doing another gimmick review, I mean come that Richard Dreyfuss one was weak in comparison to my previous efforts. To react to that, not every review of the ilk can hit the mark, and really don't do them to be clever, usually, I'm stumped on how to approach talking about the performance in a more traditional sense. To react to that, though I really should stop now this now, if I keep going I'll just be a guy who rates performance art via images of a man performing the theme from Mighty Mouse. 

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RatedRStar said...

I personally liked your Richard Dreyfuss review lol, a detective noir kinda fitted the "was it razzie worthy or not"

I do wonder what peoples thoughts on the blog are on turning 30, since a lot of people on this blog are in their 20s?

Emi Grant said...

THANK YOU, for this review, Louis. I think this is one of the most fascinating ones to dissect. Also, the Kaufman pics are perfect for the occasion.

RatedRStar: I'm still very much on the earliest of my early 20s, but I'm terrified of the idea. Personally, I hope on not making it past 27 to not have to deal with that.

Calvin Law said...

I'm not as huge on this as most, but I was definitely impressed by Burnham's commitment and this is a pretty damn good review.

Emi: Don't think that way, I'm in the mid 20s but I know there's a lot beyond 30, look around and you'll see.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I turned 29 in December and I’m trying not to think about it.

Mitchell Murray said...

Calvin: I guess I'm in the middle of yours and Emi's ages (I'm 23), but the stigma behind turning 30 is a very common one. Then again, I'm sure I had the same anxiety when I was 18 looking five years ahead; At the a certain point, you sort of have to accept the ride's not slowing down, so to speak.

But speaking of emmy winning series, I finished "Breaking Bad" tonight and can now talk about it in full. And yah...I thought it was excellent; It's well constructed and plotted, and a show that definitely sought to add something new to most of its characters with each season. It's strongest point (obviously) is the fascinating protagonist in Walter White, and I do believe Cranston's vivid, layered performance has as much to do with that as the writing. I was very impressed with the show overall, and have very few issues, so call me a fan.

Top 10 of the show's cast (mostly based on what everyone is asked to do/what they do accomplish in their screen time):

1) Bryan Cranston
2) Aaron Paul
3) Dean Norris
4) Anna Gunn
5) Jonathan Banks
6) Giancarlo Esposito
7) Bob Odenkirk
8) RJ Mitte
9) Jesse Plemons
10) Betsy Brandt

Matt Mustin said...

I'm turning 27 this month. 30 is still so, SO young.

Mitchell Murray said...

Just for reference, here...
-Sigourney Weaver was 28/29 when she got her big break (Alien)
-Hugh Jackman was 31/32 when he got his big break (X Men)
-Christoph Waltz didn't rise to international fame until Inglourious Basterds, when he was 52/53
-Morgan Freeman didn't reach mega stardom until "Street Smart", when he was nearing 50

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Thank you for this, Louis. Brilliant review.

As for myself, I'm turning 20 this year, but COVID itself has made me feel like I've aged a decade in two years. Burnham's work here resonated tremendously with all of those feelings, and I'm glad it was dissected with so much detail.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: At the risk of getting extra personal - if two years worth of weight loss, a hernia scare, mild insomnia and thinning hair counts as aging, then I second your sentiment.

Matt Mustin said...

Not liking this road we're going down, guys.

Emi Grant said...

Calvin: Oh, don't worry. I'm a rockstar at heart, you see...I appreciate your words, though.

Mitchell: For whatever it's worth, these last 2 years have been anything but easy. You're not alone, bud. Alas, we're all together in the struggle of aging.

Tim said...

being 20, i don't mind the number 30. I don't imagine it to feel any different from 29, mostly just others start to care about your age.

I am also kind of excited about growing old. Like 60+ i mean. Given my Substance consume i probably won't turn 70, but i intend to enjoy my sixties.

It'a the middle years i would honestly like to skip.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top ten Bo Burnham moments?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tim: pretty much the same way I feel. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to suddenly turn old so that I could just do things with no big expectations from others, although looking in the mirror after that change would be a shocker.

Matt Mustin said...

Why are we talking about aging and dying we are all still so young!

Luke Higham said...

Guys, enjoy life while you can. Being 30 should be embraced. If anything, I'd be a little bit sad hitting 40, my father felt that way.

Louis Morgan said...

Well to all you Tick...Tick...Boomers on the so called event of turning 30, it's not a big deal guys, you'll be fine.

Anonymous said...

Shaggy: My Heart Nominees are:

Picture: Drive My Car
Director: Ryusuke Hamaguchi - Drive My Car
Actor: Hidetoshi Nishijima - Drive My Car
Actress: Alana Haim - Licorice Pizza
Supporting Actor: Jason Isaacs - Mass
Supporting Actress: Ann Dowd - Mass
Animated: Belle
International Film: Great Freedom
Production Design: Last Night in Soho
Sound: Last Night in Soho
Score: The Last Duel
Editing: The Last Duel
Visual Effects: The Matrix Resurrections
Costume Design: The Last Duel
Cinematography: Spencer
Makeup and Hairstyling: Nightmare Alley
Original Screenplay: The Worst Person in the World
Adapted Screenplay: Drive My Car
Song: So May We Start

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your Bafta nomination predictions.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Monica Vitti

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on this interview with Myrna Loy and Lillian Gish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V3oc5ms1ro

Robert MacFarlane said...

Anyone else bothered that no one actually apologizes to Bruno at the end of Encanto?

RatedRStar said...

Wow this chat got suddenly very deep haha lol.

Anyway, all I ask from Bafta, please do not nominate Javier Bardem lol thats all.

RatedRStar said...

I actually think, if nominated, Javier Bardem will be the first reviewed Oscar nominated performance since 2015, to get less than a 3 so I am desperate for that not to happen.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I think they're nominating 6 like last year. I hope it's Dinklage and one of the BIFA nominees.

RatedRStar said...

Robert MacFarlane: I am more disappointed by Encanto being seen as clearly the best animated film of the year by most critics when it clearly isnt!!!

RatedRStar said...

Luke: That is what has me worried, if it was just 5 I think he would miss but with 6, I mean Denzel has never been Bafta nominated, I think Denzel surely gets that this time, I could see Stephen Graham being nominated maybe.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RatedRStar: I'll be 26 in July.

Anonymous said...

RatedRStar: actually, most critic awards gave the wins to either Flee or Mitchells vs. the Machines. Very few gave it to a Disney movie.

Anonymous said...

Yet Encanto is still 100% winning the Oscar, so I don't know why.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

1. "That's How the World Works" - Inside
2. Going Outside then inside again - Inside
3. You have to forgive me - Promising Young Woman
4. "Welcome to the Internet" - Inside
5. Police - Promising Young Woman
6. All time Low - Inside
7. Dinner with Parents - Promising Young Woman
8. "All Eyes on me" - Inside
9. Reacting - Inside
10. "Forgiving" Cassie - Promising Young Woman

Robert:

Yes! Of course I think it relates to one of my major problems with the film, which doesn't really confront the idea of a family ostracizing members of the family to maintain their pride essentially. It just kind of vaguely introduces the idea but never really deals with what that means.

RatedRStar:

Hate that is all but guaranteed the win unless they go with Luca, which would be an even worse choice in my mind. Though I hate it more than Belle probably won't even be nominated while Disney films will get three nominations.

Luke:

Best Film:

Belfast
Dune
Licorice Pizza
The Power of the Dog
West Side Story

Film Not in English Language:

Drive My Car
Flee
Titane
The Worst Person in The World
Parallel Mothers

Documentary:

Flee
Summer of Soul
The Velvet Underground
The Rescue
The Sparks Brthers

Animated Film:

Encanto
Luca
Raya and the Last Dragon
The Mitchells vs. The Machines

Director:

Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
Rebecca Hall - Passing
Julia Ducournau - Titane
Ryusuke Hamaguichi - Drive, My Car
Paul Thomas Anderson - Licorice Pizza
Denis Villeneuve - Dune

Original Screenplay:

Belfast
Licorice Pizza
Don't Look Up
After Love
The Worst Person in the World

Adapted Screenplay:

Drive My Car
Dune
The Power of the Dog
CODA
The Lost Daughter

Lead Actress:

Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos
Lady Gaga - House of Gucci
Claire Rushbrook - Ali & Ava
Rachel Zegler - West Side Story
Joanna Scanlan - After Love
Tessa Thompson - Passing

Lead Actor:

Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Andrew Garfield - Tick Tick...Boom
Adeel Akhtar - Ali & Ava
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Daniel Craig - No Time to Die
Peter Dinklage - Cyrano

Supporting Actress:

Caitriona Balfe - Belfast
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Ruth Negga - Passing
Vinette Robinson - Boiling Point
Kathryn Hunter - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog

Supporting Actor:

Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Ciaran Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - CODA
David Alvarez - West Side Story
Mike Faist - West Side Story
Bradley Cooper - Licorice Pizza

Casting:

Belfast
Boiling Point
Don't Look UP
The Power of the Dog
West Side Story

Cinematography:

Belfast
No Time to Die
The Power of the Dog
The Tragedy of Macbeth
West Side Story

Costume Design:

Cruella
Dune
The French Dispatch
Nightmare Alley
West Side Story

Editing:

Belfast
Dune
Licorice Pizza
No Time to Die
West Side Story

Makeup and Hair:

Coming 2 America
Cruella
Dune
The Eyes of Tammy Faye
No Time To Die

Original Score:

Don't Look Up
Dune
The French Dispatch
The Power of the Dog
No Time to Die

Production Design:

Dune
Nightmare Alley
No Time to Die
The Tragedy of Macbeth
West Side Story

Visual Effects:

Dune
Ghostbusters: Afterlife
No Time to Die
The Matrix Resurrections
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

Sound:

Belfast
Dune
Last Night in Soho
No Time to Die
West Side Story

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you've seen it, your thoughts on Ali and Ava and the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

I haven't, and as far as I know it is unavailable and a 2022 release by my rules. My prediction for it was based on BAFTA's acting nominees last year.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: Could I have your top ten best written comedy films?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: could I have your thoughts on Ducournau’s direction? I’ve given up on my (always far fetched) hopes for a nom but I’m interested to hear what you made of her work there.

Also I think Reinsve is making it in for Lead Actress, I have a feeling they will nominate the lone non-English language performance of the lot.

Tim said...

So, i just finished Season 2 of Breaking Bad. So; Marie being a shoplifter went nowhere, huh? Kind of an odd thing to focus on for the finale of the first season then. No seriously, what the hell was that?

Other than that, i liked it a lot. I was sceptical after Season one being a bit slow and weirdly low-scale. This one has a lot better pacing and seems to be getting to the bigger stuff plot-wise.

However, by "liked a lot" i don't mean outright love. I am still missing some kind of hook that makes me go "This is the shit!". But the chance for that coming seems to certainly be there.

By now i am more into Jesse's story than Walter's by the way.

so, excited for 3, especially "Fly"; i heard interesting things.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

If we're talking films with like less than 10% non-comedic scenes:

A Christmas Story
Clue
The Death of Stalin
Dr. Strangelove
A Fish Called Wanda
Ghostbusters
Hot Fuzz
It Happened One Night
Shaun of the Dead
The Wolf of Wall Street

Calvin:

I mean it would be best if I gave the film another go first, as I'm entirely neutral towards it at this point.

Possibly. Given it is still the jury, honestly it could go many different ways.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Birdy and The Stranger with thoughts on the casts.

I hope you're in the middle of finishing off Blackadder.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Birdy worked on the bromance level for me, though as an exploration of the joy of flight, or wartime trauma I don't think it really uncovered anything too remarkable. It works though because Cage and Modine together work.

Cage/Modine - 3.5/4(Cage you see the daring and passion that will mark his best work, but I'd say there are iffy moments though in here. There are times where what he is doing really works towards the "normal" yet also aggressive one. There are other times where he struggles a bit to make the emotion wholly honest, however that is the minority of his scenes overall. Honestly I could go up to 4.5 with Modine here, I typically am not impressed by him, but here he is genuinely good in kind of giving the good version of that performance Crispin Glover is always trying to give and failing (except Back to the Future of course). This as the man so wholly internalized in his thoughts and in his specific experience. I liked what Modine did was portray though this distinct joy in sharing his specific passion, and out of it portrayed the character's discomfort not as wanting to fit in and struggling, rather showing him as having no need of it. The discomfort rather coming in his reactions towards the judgment of others as Modine portrays it all as a genuine disinterest more than anything. The two's chemistry together also works, particularly the moments of mutual joy.)

The Stranger is a wonderful final film by Satyajit Ray. This as such a quietly observant piece that propels itself forward naturally with this specific question of the center of it, however that as really this starting point to be this examination of society, family and the expectation of what or who one should be. Notable I think in that you'd never guess it as his final film is it doesn't fall into kind of the late period style some filmmakers get into (which can be positive or negative though), just seems like another strong film from him.

Saving Utpal Dutt.

De - 4(He's enjoyable as this kind of goofy husband who treats the mystery of the stranger as this kind of Dad's quest. What I liked about his performance is the amount of levity he brings in his "dogged" investigation. He plays it well as this kind of a goof, who really isn't almost doing the whole thing as a kind of lark.)

Shankar - 4(Gives a good portrayal of a more emotional contrast in terms of the examination of the stranger. This as she brings this
same interest there is a greater sense of attachment to finding the answer, unlike her husband who is treating it as a kind of game. Shankar brings this quiet emotional hesitation throughout that is well used to show her kind of hoping for the truth to let herself be open to her as a niece, which powerfully reveals itself at the end of the film.)

Chatterjee/Ghosh - 4/3.5(Both good as two visitors who offer two very different perspectives on the stranger. Chatterjee bringing this growing intensity in his performance as the man grilling the man slowly and coming to these philosophical blows. Ghosh in turn brings the right kind of warm curiosity who is just fascinated by this man that is the Stranger.)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I saw Parallel Mothers. It mostly worked for me. LOVED Cruz and Smit. Interesting approach to a melodramatic story. Don't think the historical subplot works.

Calvin Law said...

Glad you loved Smit too. By the way, are we all in agreement that she’s supporting?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Calvin: I don't see how she would be lead. I bet the screentime percentage is less than 25%.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Easy supporting placement in my view, as even the scenes she has without Cruz are as focused on Sánchez-Gijón's character as they are on hers.

Matt Mustin said...

I watched Coffee and Cigarettes (2004). Really good vignette film from Jim Jarmusch. Almost all of the vignettes work to some degree, and quite a few are great. Cast is mostly just there to do their jobs, but the standouts are Tom Waits, Steve Coogan, and Alfred Molina, who are all very good, and Cate Blanchett, who's amazing.

RatedRStar said...

Denzels Baftaless run continues, glad Bardem missed though, DiCaprio getting in is huge. Mike Faist getting in is fantastic, he really does have a chance at cracking Oscar now.

Louis Morgan said...

Man BAFTA just does not like Washington.

Louis Morgan said...

RatedRStar: Maybe, important to remember these were jury based so they don't tell us too much nomination wise. I do think it influences win momentum which helps Lady Gaga a lot.

Luke Higham said...

I guess Dinklage is out of the race. And what the hell has Washington done to be snubbed again.

Aidan Pittman said...

Very happy about Licorice Pizza love from BAFTA (especially with Haim getting in), less so about The Tragedy of Macbeth getting mostly ignored. Also a good morning for Drive My Car, Don't Look Up (neither of which I've yet seen) and King Richard (I think a lot of people, myself included, expected BAFTA to ignore entirely). Also no The Power of the Dog in editing here, which could be fatal for its Best Picture chances if Oscar nominations repeat. And that Original Screenplay lineup outside of PTA... not looking too great (hoping and predicting that The French Dispatch sneaks into the Oscar lineup over Being the Ricardos, though).

Aidan Pittman said...

Also notable that Kirsten Dunst was snubbed from Supporting Actress here, which may be detrimental to her chances given how the jury very much went for The Power of the Dog otherwise. Oh, and no Spencer anywhere... not looking good for Stewart.

Louis Morgan said...

Maybe but Cyrano got 4 nominations still so he might've gotten in with general voting for the actors.

Calvin Law said...

Drive My Car getting into the non-juried category of Adapted Screenplay definitely a nice get for it.

Calvin Law said...

Also that Best Actress lineup is a breath of fresh air, sad to see Stewart miss out again but the quality of those six is unimpeachable.

Calvin Law said...

Also fwiw I believe that for each acting category there's a top 2 who are voted on by the larger awards body so it probably was:

Cumberbatch, and either Smith or DiCaprio
Gaga and Haim (which bodes very well for the former in terms of win competitiveness and also the latter for getting a nom)
Smit-McPhee and Hinds
Balfe and Buckley (maybe DeBose but they didn't seem to love her film overall)

As for predictions,

The Power of the Dog
Campion
Cumberbatch
Gaga
Smit-McPhee
Balfe

Matt Mustin said...

It is genuinely weird how much the BAFTAs hate Denzel Washington.

Robert MacFarlane said...

FAIST HYPE

Anonymous said...

Top 2 for each category (which is non juried) was probably:
Actor - Dicaprio and Smith (or Cumberbatch)
Actress - Gaga and Scanlan (or Haim)
Supp. Actor - Hinds and Smit-McPhee
Supp. Actress - Balfe and DeBose

Anonymous said...

Cumberbatch not DiCaprio was definitely in the top two at BAFTA

HTT said...

A five a for Burnham! Burnham's work has meant the world to me over the years, so I am incredibly pleased to see him get a well-deserved five.

Mitchell Murray said...

Me just now:

-Briefly skims over the BAFTA nominations to catch up
-Sees Olivia Colman, a previous BAFTA winner and one of the most talented and recently prolific British actresses working today, miss out for "The Lost Daughter"
-Sits in confusion

I can't speak for everyone, I suppose, but I think the ideal "The Lost Daughter" scenerio is both Colman and Buckley get in at minimum. Both performances are absolutely needed for the film to succeed, and both give genuine, palpable, quietly stirring work.

Calvin Law said...

I'm cool with Colman missing out if it means the likes of Reinsve and Thompson getting in for BAFTA.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

Well the performances are the best part of the film...I actually think the screenplay's its weakest element.

It is clear, given they've done it to her twice now, the jury voters think Colman has be rewarded enough by BAFTA as she has four wins (personally I hate such thinking since it is always random with who gets that kind of treatment

Anonymous said...

Louis who do you think were the top two in each juried category?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Director: Campion/PTA
Actor: Cumberbatch/Smith (Maybe DiCaprio, however SAG seemed the easier get which he was snubbed for. Richard's screenplay nod, makes me think Smith might've gotten in on his own).
Actress: Gaga/hmmm...Haim?(Haim makes the most sense to me given how much love Licorice Pizza got overall)
Supporting Actor: Smit-McPhee/Hinds (Maybe Kotsur, but Hinds makes more sense here.)
Supporting Actress: Balfe/De Bose(Maybe Negga (to make Calvin Happy) or Buckley)

I think too much is being made out of these categories overall, but as seen last year with Mulligan, it either suggests weakness (or interferes with momentum) and might narrow down the winners, so I'd say the races are probably up to those in the top two for each (except for Washington in actor because BAFTA just doesn't believe in him apparently.)

And I will say I love that Kidman got snubbed, as that would be such an uninspired win for a great year for the category.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: I would absolutely agree the acting surpasses the writing with "The Lost Daughter". Thats why when I first commented on the film I said "I'll have to see how it sits with time...", because I had certain reservations I wasn't sure how to articulate (ex. the ending is a bit of an anti-climax), but could likely deepen in the future.

And again, I do think Colman and Buckley's work in the movie complements eachother very much. I made comparisons to "Love and Mercy" because both actors seem to hit a uniquely shared wavelength, and it's easy to imagine the older version as a natural progression of the younger one. Given all of that, I feel if your going to recognize one of them, there's little reason relative to the film why you shouldn't recognize the other.

Mitchell Murray said...

Oh, and not to contend with Calvin too much, but I would probably rank Colman above Thompson for preference (though I do really like the latter).

RatedRStar said...

I do wonder what the big surprises could be come Oscar nominations day, because there are at least 5 or 6 people that I could see getting snubbed.

Bryan L. said...

Colmans’ snub at BAFTA makes me wonder if she’ll meet the same fate at the Oscars, since the Academy could be thinking that they already gave her the “afterglow” nomination for The Father.

Calvin Law said...

Doubt it. I think Colman is in, as is Gaga, and I don’t really think it necessarily changes anything for Kidman (though I’m not predicting her out of spite for that awful film). Chastain on the other hand I think is very vulnerable and could easily lose out to a passion pick.

8000S said...

Good grief, they don't stop with these shitty Ice Age movies.

Mitchell Murray said...

8000s: I guess the difference between a loner learning to trust others after great tragedy, and a comic relief pirate weasel gallavanting with his band of weaker comic relief - is apparently 20 years (less considering 2 and 3).

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I must concur with Calvin. Again, these "SNUBS" in the acting/directing categories only indicate weakness in terms of winning potential, not nominations potential as 4 of the 6 nominees were decided by juries of less than 20 people. Last year BAFTA nominated only 10 of the 20 eventual Oscar nominees (despite having 24 slots). Also The Father definitely wasn't an Afterglow nomination, as there was plenty of passion for her performance and the film.

Anonymous said...

Louis what are your final Oscar predictions?

Mitchell Murray said...

Rock related question for everyone here: What would be your thoughts about the following songs (some I may have asked about before, but I'm not sure)?

Wrong Side of Heaven - Five Finger Death Punch
Savin' Me and Hero - Nickleback
It's Been AWhile - Staind
Fighter - Christina Aguilera (I'm not terribly well versed with her songs overall, but this one has always stuck with me)
Returned - Divide Music (Having seen the "Broly" film of DragonBall: Super, I find this song really fits the character in it's simple, aggressive and intense beat)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I've been going back and forth on whether to play it safe, or take a risk. I'll do the former in the hope of the latter.

Picture:

PGA Ten. I do think something can pull a surprise, just have no idea what it would be.

Director:

DGA Five, no reason to second guess any of them.

Actor:

Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Will Smith - King Richard
Andrew Garfield - Tick Tick...Boom
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Leonardo DiCaprio - Don't Look Up

Returning to DiCaprio because of the Don't Look Up best film nom at BAFTA, but I think we could be in for a Banderas or Dafoe here...just not sure who it could be. Even a Stanfield (as in no precursors) so I think even Cooper still has a chance.

Actress:

Lady Gaga - House of Gucci
Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Olivia Colman - The Lost Daughter
Alana Haim - Licorice Pizza

The love fest Pizza is getting make me think Haim's getting in. I think Chastain is vulnerable, but to whom? Stewart seems like she's Ethan Hawke. Cruz didn't make the BAFTA longlist. Hudson seems probably SAG only. Maybe Zegler, super outside chance Reinsve.

Supporting Actor:

Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Ciaran Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - CODA
Bradley Cooper - Licorice Pizza
Mike Faist - West Side Story

I feel Leto needs House of Gucci to do better than it is overall. Simmons needed some earlier buzz. I don't get Plemons being a thing at all for Dog (His BAFTA nod film like Clarke Peter's last year). Affleck's film seems way to weak. So going with the potential passion pick for Faist.

Adapted Screenplay:

The Power of the Dog
CODA
Dune
Drive My Car
The Lost Daughter

Seems like the probably the five.

Original Screenplay:

Belfast
Licorice Pizza
Don't Look Up
Being the Ricardos
King Richard

Seems like the five. Though I do think C'Mon C'Mon, Parallel Mothers or The Worst Person in the World could pull a sideways upset still.

Cinematography:

Dune
The Power of the Dog
The Tragedy of Macbeth
Belfast
Nightmare Alley

Belfast missing BAFTA was interesting, however I don't see No Time to Die being the replacement here. West Side Story missing both ASC and BAFTA makes it very hard to predict.

Louis Morgan said...

Costume Design:

Cruella
Dune
Nightmare Alley
House of Gucci
The French Dispatch

Could go a few ways with the last 2 spots, playing it safe still.

Dune
Belfast
Licorice Pizza
The Power of the Dog
No Time to Die

The four seem easy enough, both West Side and Don't Look Up missed BAFTA to No Time To Die. Yes a hometown favorite, however I think it could be that Force Awakens/The Bourne Ultimatum that occasionally happens given there's such weakness in the seeming sure things. I think here though we could get a major surprise or two.

Makeup & Hairstyling:

Dune
The Eyes of Tammy Faye
House of Gucci
Cruella
Coming 2 America

Purely based on the "most makeup" prediction.

Production Design:

Dune
Nightmare Alley
The French Dispatch
West Side Story
Cyrano

Top 4 seem easy enough, throwing a bone to Cyrano for the Academy maybe favoring big sets compared to Macbeth's minimalist designs.

Score:

Dune
The Power of the Dog
Don't Look Up
The French Dispatch
Encanto

Top 2 easy. Don't Look Up honestly is as much for Succession I think if Britell gets in. Encanto would be a sure thing in the 90's, so why not. Also perhaps I am desperately hoping voters will realize how bad Ricardos's score is.

Song:

"No Time to Die" - No Time to Die
"Be Alive" - King Richard
"Dos Oruguitas" - Encanto
"Don't Look Up" - Don't Look Up
"Down to Joy" - Belfast

Top three seem very safe. Bottom 2 less so, but I could see a lot of different swings with the shortlist.

Sound:

Dune
West Side Story
Belfast
No Time To Die
A Quiet Place Part II

Based largely on most sound.

Visual Effects:

Dune
The Matrix Resurrections
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Ghostbusters: Afterlife
No Time To Die

#1 is a no brainer, I could see any of the rest missing though. Matrix has a lot of effects. Spider-man seems the Marvel pony likely and the branch seems like they'll only go with one Marvel per year...so perhaps the most popular one. Ghostbusters perhaps just for the big final effect and No Time to Die, as there can be that "subtle" spot at times.

Louis Morgan said...

Supporting Actress:

Ariana De Bose - West Side Story
Caitriona Balfe - Belfast
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Ruth Negga - Passing
Aunjanue Ellis - King Richard

Ellis's SAG snub does give me pause, but the lack of an obvious alternative (baring a surge from some film I can't put my finger on), makes her the safest bet. Negga seems like the sole nominee, but she keeps showing up regardless. It will go well with her previous sole nomination.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: You don't see Cate Blanchett having a late surge for Nightmare Alley in Supporting? Granted, the film doesn't seem to be making too much noise amongst the industry.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Well it wouldn't be a late surge specifically for her, since she got in at SAG. The question is what is Nightmare Alley doing outside of the techs? There's been such a whiplash with it, I'm not sure what to expect.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your thoughts on the trailer for After Yang? https://youtu.be/wShQIuCYboE

Calvin Law said...

Also your International Film five? I have the following:

Drive My Car
The Worst Person in the World
A Hero
Flee
Compartment No. 6 (I don’t know if this makes sense but after what you said before, I kind of feel that it has the very oddball Academy choice to make that sometimes happens in this category, in this case a good one)

Michael McCarthy said...

Just watched Cyrano. Dinklage was terrific but boy were those songs laaaaaaaaaaame.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Cortez's work in The Three Faces of Eve and Shock Corridor?

RatedRStar said...

Ruth Negga on paper, seems like Daniel Bruhl, Timothee Chalamet and Hong Chau to me, flying the flag solo for her film, getting everything and then missing out in the end, but because she did get that sole nomination for Loving, I feel like she is actually gonna get in purely because of that.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Thoughts on this line reading? https://twitter.com/gummivenusdmilo/status/1487808271058538497?s=21

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Although I wasn't the biggest fan of Columbus, this does appear intriguing and well shot at the very least.

International Film:

Drive My Car
The Worst Person in the World
A Hero
The Hand of God
Prayers for the Stolen

I think only Drive My Car feels absolutely safe here with how the branch can throw curve balls. I'm not predicting Flee, only because this might be the category that might say "Hey it's going to be nominated in doc and animated anyways". Though I do think it could get into all three. My swerve pick is Prayers for the Stolen for the importance issue factor (though not to diminish he film itself because it would be a deserving nominee)

8000's:

Cortez successfully proves the great cinematographer rule, as even with a not great director, Cortez does deliver some strong work in Three Faces of Eve. It is the generalized sort of prestige widescreen black and white work from the time, however an ideal version of that look. This in particularly his lighting on Woodward herself that often helps her to convey sort of the mood of the particular face that she is displaying in the moment.

I wouldn't call Sam Fuller a great director, just a remarkably ambitious one who was willing to go places other directors would not touch at the time. Cortez delivers some fantastic moody work that crafts a quiet noirish quality to the literal corridors of the piece, with some key moments where he gets to show off a bit when the film gets stylistic. These scenes work best just in terms of their look through Cortez's dynamic lighting and often entrancing composition.

Robert:

Excellent, I really believed Milhouse's excitement about the carnival. Seriously though, pretty strong work from Smith in delivering the amount of anger that is being held back in her voice, in a whispering threat of emotion.

8000S said...

Louis: Also thoughts on that Loy/Gish interview I posted.

Tim said...

Mitchell:

Wrong Side of Heaven - pretty great. Amazing vocals, great lyrics and a fantastic chorus. what's not tolike

Savin Me - one of their best. absolutely love most of it. My biggest complaint mught maybe be that the chorus is a bit short. Also love the "Sixth Sense"-like video, but i'm glad Chad got rid of that mustache.

Hero - As someone who loves both the Spider-Man movies and Nickelback, is it weird that I'm somewhat indifferent about this? It's good. I can listen to it fine. Would not listen to it every week.

Fighter - I hate Christina Aguilera. Look up her singing with Seth MacFarlane, perfectly encapsulates why. And for this song i honestly don't think she fits. It's definitely trying to be a rock song, but she sings it like a pop ballad, only faster; so it ends trying both and succeeding in neither for me. Even though the text is pretty great. If somebody else with a more fitting style were to cover it, i would probably love it.

Returned - Somehwta similar in fact. The singer seems to be on a different tempo than the backgroung music. Someone send in J. K. Simmons, please. Other than that, it's an okay listen, but not particulary memorable.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Loy's bit is short and sweet. More notable for Gish there, who is such a tremendous force all on her own, particularly as she speaks her passion for film, especially her obvious pride in Night of the Hunter for finding a resurgence.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What did you think of Rylance's cameo in Anonymous.

Aidan Pittman said...

Finally forced myself to watch Don’t Look Up last night which is… not good, although I didn’t hate it like I thought I would have. Was not a fan of McKay’s execution at all which is incredibly unsubtle, but I don’t think it irked me as much as it did for others and as I thought it would for me.

DiCaprio - 4
Lawrence - 3.5
Streep - 2
Morgan - 3.5
Hill - 2
Chalamet - 3
Rylance - 1
Blanchett - 2

Anonymous said...

I think Spencer not getting in Score helps Greenwood's chances a lot (he can't vote-split anymore), but we all know Dune is running away with it.

Michael McCarthy said...

Louis: Is there any upgrade potential for Ariana DeBose, Tessa Thompson or Ruth Negga for their 2021 performances?

Luke Higham said...

And Niamh Algar & Agathe Rousselle.

Calvin Law said...

GUYS

David Lynch has been cast in Steven Spielberg's The Fabelmans.

Totally not freaking out.

8000S said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the ending of Seconds? Talk about a perfect emotional ending. A man who feels unhappy and unsatisfied remembers a time where he was happy in his last moments.

8000S said...

Louis: Supposedly Douglas and Olivier were offered Hudson's part. I have no doubts they would have been excellent, but really, Hudson is fantastic in the movie, and his performance demonstrates that he truly could act.

That's one of those things that it's fantastic about cinema. There's always some actor that doesn't really vow you, but does this certain film, and blows you away.

HTT said...

Just wanted to give a quick update on what I've been watching this month.

On the first, I watched Compartment No. 6 at my local cinema and I really loved it. I took me on an unbelivably heartwarming journey that just made me incredibly happy. Easily one of my favorites of 2021.
9.5/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/compartment-no-6/
Cast ratings:
Seidi Haarla - 4.5/5
Yuriy Borisov - 4.5/5

On the second, I went to my local cinema again to watch Nightmare Alley. This is probably a hot take, but this is easily one of the best films of 2021. Beautifully shot, poignantly directed and grotesque in an oddly satisfying and twisted way.
9.8/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/nightmare-alley-2021/
Cast ratings:
Bradley Cooper - 4.5/5
Cate Blanchett - 4/5
Rooney Mara - 4/5
Toni Collette - 4/5
Willem Dafoe - 4/5
Richard Jenkins - 4/5

On the third, I rewatched The Worst Person In The World and I loved it even more. I think it might even have taken the throne from The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix as my favorite Norwegian film ever. I really just love how this film celebrates Julie's horrible descision making instead of condemning it. This film is basically saying "shit happens, but life goes on", which is something that for some reason really resonated with me. This one's a masterpiece.
10/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/the-worst-person-in-the-world/1/
Cast ratings:
Renate Reinsve - 5/5
Anders Danielsen Lie - 5/5
Herbert Nordrum - 4.5/5

And today, I watched Raw. When considering how much I loved Titane, I really thought I was gonna love this movie with my whole soul, but I must admit I was a bit disappointed. This is by all means a truly great movie, serving as a very layered exploration of youth culture, youth norms and coming of age, but I really didn't find it as engaging as Titane. I still really enjoyed it though and feel that it might grow on me in the future.
8.8/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/raw-2016/
Cast ratings:
Garance Marillier - 4/5

I'm probably going to start posting here a bit more, as I really want to start engaging in film discussion a bit more.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: To continue the recent trend of directors making films that take place in their younger days (Tarantino, PTA, Cuarón, Branagh, Gerwig, Spielbergs’ and James Grays’ upcoming films), are there any filmmakers that you’d like to see tackle something similar?

Bryan L. said...

(Or their own version of 8 1/2, like with Almodóvar/Pain & Glory).

Calvin Law said...

I’d love to see Wong Kar-wai do an 8 1/2 esque film with Tony Leung playing him.

Aidan Pittman said...

Saw and absolutely loved Drive My Car. I was really not ready for just how much of an intimate experience this would be and I loved virtually the whole thing.

Nishijima - 5
Miura - 5
Kirishima - 4
Okada - 5
Park - 4
Jin - 3.5

Calvin Law said...

God, I really do hope Okada gets a 5. That backseat monologue he delivers is one of the finest bits of acting I've seen all year.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, as far as films I'm extremely late to the party go, I watched "El Camino" tonight. I found it to be a terrific epilogue to "Breaking Bad", and a very faithful, fitting resolution to Jesse's story. Moreover, it does recapture the tone of the show's final episode, by also being a somber reflection of how and why everything fell apart for the characters. It's decidedly non cinematic (aside from a couple scenes near the end), and for me, that only works in it's favour.

Paul - 5
Forster - 4.5
Plemons - 4
Cranston - 3.5
Baker/Jones - 3 (Fine reprisals of their roles)
Ritter/Banks - 2.5 (Okay but less memorable reprisals, and I sort of wish they had more than one scene each)

Louis Morgan said...

Michael:

Maybe with Debose, Thompson and Negga.

Luke:

Probably not. Really have no desire to re-watch Censor either despite definitely liking Algar and the cinematography.

Calvin:

That calls for a slice of cherry pie

8000's:

Probably one of the most brutal film endings that audiences and critics I guess just weren't ready for, as I have no idea how that film was no lauded on initial release. Fantastic juxtaposition though of the moment of realization of happiness, before a different horrifying realization with that acting I was simply not aware that Hudson was capable of. Also Geer is perfect there as he seems so intently listening at first, before calling in his men like he's ordering trash to be taken out.

Olivier I feel would've been slightly miscast at that point in his career, the part needed some one who was a bit of hunk, for the lack of a better word. Douglas still had that and likely would've been great, but Hudson was ideal there, and I'm glad he got that opportunity.

Bryan:

Well given the recent casting how about David Lynch.

Also maybe touchy subject matter, but I have to think there is probably a film there with Christopher Nolan and his criminal brother.

Honestly I'd love to see Scorsese do one, and it honestly feels like he should've already at this point.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: well, to add to your cherry pie, how about the rumour/damn fine cup of coffee, that he may be playing John Ford?

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Well that's a tall cup of it right there. Lynch as an irascible Ford should be the recipe for liquid gold.

Robert MacFarlane said...

So these are my final predictions for the main six categories:

Picture

Belfast
CODA
Don’t Look Up
Dune
King Richard
Licorice Pizza
The Power of the Dog
tick, tick… BOOM!
The Tragedy of Macbeth
West Side Story

Director

Anderson
Campion
Hamaguchi
Spielberg
Villenueve

Actor

Cooper
Cumberbatch
Garfield
Smith
Washington

Actress

Chastain
Cruz (NGNG)
Gaga
Haim
Kidman

Supporting Actor

Cooper
Faist
Hinds
Kotsur
Smit-McPhee

Supporting Actress

Balfe
DeBose
Dunst
Ellis
Negga

To clarify some logic: Cooper because I don’t think it’s DiCaprio but I also have no clue, Colman’s getting Hanks’d, Cruz will be Cotillard’d, Stewart has been Lindo’d, Dornan is an alt for Faist or Cooper, Hamaguchi will Vinterberg it, and Branagh’s getting Affleck’d.

Calvin Law said...

Yeah, to be honest, I don't think Dornan is entirely out of it yet...the way it swings between him, Faist or Cooper might determine which of their films emerges as the number 2.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: What do you think of this cast for a 1987 Watchmen?

Night Owl: Kevin Costner
Rorschach: Brad Dourif
Dr. Manhattan: Rutger Hauer
Silk Spectre: Jean Smart (duh)
The Comedian: Dennis Hopper
Ozymandias: Jeremy Irons (duh)

Matt Mustin said...

Finally got to see Licorice Pizza. I stand by my statement that Paul Thomas Anderson makes nothing but masterpieces, because I LOVED this.

Haim-5
Hoffman-5
The Haim family-3
Penn-4.5
Safdie-3.5
Ebersole-3.5
Waits-4 (almost my default rating for him, honestly.)
Cooper-5
Harris-4
Higgins-1.5
Cross-3

Matt Mustin said...

Cooper's probably my supporting actor win, actually.

Louis: Have you heard Kevin Smith talk about Jon Peters? Because while watching Cooper's performance I couldn't help but think about that story.

Matt Mustin said...

Actually, let's go 3.5 for Cross.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: Dourif as Rorschach is downright inspired.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene from The Hunt?

https://youtu.be/i7Y0sXYRwhg

BRAZINTERMA said...

Very well, my final nominees predictions for Tuesday are...

SONG
“Be Alive” - King Richard
"Dos Oruguitas" - Encanto
"Down to Joy" - Belfast
“Just Look Up” - Don't Look Up
“No Time to Die” - No Time to Die

SCORE
Don’t Look Up
Dune
Encanto
The French Dispatch
The Power of the Dog

SOUND
Belfast
Dune
No Time to Die
Tick, Tick... Boom!
West Side Story

EDITING
Belfast
Don’t Look Up
Dune
The Power of the Dog
Tick, Tick... Boom!

VISUAL EFFECTS
Dune
Godzilla vs. Kong
The Matrix: Resurrections
No Time to Die
Spider-Man: No Way Home

MAKEUP & HAIRSTYLING
Cruella
Dune
The Eyes of Tammy Faye
House of Gucci
West Side Story

COSTUME DESIGN
Cruella
Dune
House of Gucci
Nightmare Alley
West Side Story

PRODUCTION DESIGN
Dune
The French Dispatch
Nightmare Alley
The Tragedy of Macbeth
West Side Story

CINEMATOGRAPHY
Belfast
Dune
Nightmare Alley
The Power of the Dog
The Tragedy of Macbeth

INTERNATIONAL FEATURE
Drive My Car (Japan)
Flee (Denmark)
The Hand of God (Italy)
A Hero (Iran)
The Worst Person in the World (Norway)

ANIMATED FEATURE
Encanto
Flee
Luca
The Mitchells vs The Machines
Raya and the Last Dragon

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
CODA
Drive My Car
Dune
The Lost Daughter
The Power of the Dog

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Being the Ricardos
Belfast
Don't Look Up!
King Richard
Licorice Pizza

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Caitriona Balfe - Belfast
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Aunjanue Ellis - King Richard
Ruth Negga - Passing

LEAD ACTRESS
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Olvia Colman - The Lost Daughter
Lady Gaga - House of Gucci
Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos
Kristen Stewart - Spencer

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Bradley Cooper - Licorice Pizza
Jamie Dornan - Belfast
Ciaran Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - CODA
Kodi Smit McPhee - The Power of the Dog

LEAD ACTOR
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Leonardo DiCaprio - Don't Look Up
Andrew Garfield - Tick, Tick... Boom!
Will Smith - King Richard
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth

DIRECTOR
Kenneth Branagh - Belfast
Ryusuke Hamaguchi - Drive My Car
Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
Steven Spielberg - West Side Story
Denis Villenueve - Dune

PICTURE
Belfast
CODA
Don't Look Up
Drive My Car
Dune
King Richard
Licorice Pizza
The Power of the Dog
Tick, Tick... Boom!
West Side Story

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Dourif's a great choice, I could see Costner being lame in the right way there, and Hauer is perfection. Hopper wouldn't be my first thought, but I could see that working.

Matt:

Glad you loved it.

I have, and I'm all for a short film with Cooper reprising the role to talk about his need for a giant spider.

Anonymous:

A powerful scene as you get Marcus who is the character who unquestionably believes that his dad is telling the truth, and its so honest in showing kind of the pent up emotion that builds towards explosion in such an impossible situation for him to deal with. The mess that it becomes feeling so natural with emotions running so high as it all falls apart both in Marcus's attempt to try to vindicate his dad, in not the most effective way, while also everyone in the house just exploding.

HTT said...

Just watched Tim Burton's Ed Wood and I loved it. I have never been a fan of Burton's work, but this here is right up my alley. Easily my new favorite Johnny Depp performance. Martin Landau also gives one of the finest performances I have ever seen. Also loved the cinematography. It's just a very great love-letter to filmmaking that has just the right amount of emotion and humour. I will admit that the "where are they now?" segment at the end threw me a bit out of it, but still, a damn masterpiece. Tim Burton's magnum opus for me.
9.9/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/ed-wood/
Cast ratings:
Johnny Depp - 5/5
Martin Landau - 5/5
Sarah Jessica Parker - 4/5
Patricia Arquette - 3/5
Lisa Marie - 3/5
Jeffrey Jones - 3.5/5
Bill Murray - 3.5/5
George Steele - 3/5
Juliet Landau - 3/5
Mike Starr - 3.5/5

Louis Morgan said...

This review of The Tragedy of Macbeth by "Ethan Coen" needs to be read:

https://imightbewrong.substack.com/p/joel-coens-the-tragedy-of-macbeth

Luke Higham said...

LOL :)

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I might just have to rethink my order of the funniest things I've ever read, cause that's up there.

Aidan Pittman said...

Oh, that's beautiful. Made my whole day.

Mitchell Murray said...

Even without seeing the movie yet, that review gave me a good chuckle.

On a different note, I watched "The People Vs Larry Flynt" this morning, and it definitely tested my limits tastewise. There's a part of me thats disappointed with the film, in it's reluctance to paint the lead in much of a negative light, and it's zero hesistance to paint his opposition as one dimensional. I also feel that with the first half especially, a lot of scenes could've been mined more had they not been edited so abruptly. On the whole, it's quite a typical 90s film of it's type, with some fine speeches but weaker connective tissue building up to or following them.

Harrelson - 3 (I subscribe to Louis' two halves assessment; The first half being a serviciable but standard portrayal - with hints of Harrelson's later likability and presence - while his voice inflection in the second half felt like a put on, unfourtunately. I guess I still found him okay in general, but it's nothing that needed to be awarded and is a prime example of how Harrelson improved over time.)
Love - 4 (MVP)
Norton - 4
Harrelson (Brett) - 2.5
Cromwell/Macdonald - 2 (Wish they were given more to do)
Glover - 2

Bryan L. said...

Lmao

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your cast & director for a Japanese Golden Age version of Drive, My Car.

Calvin Law said...

Tsutomu Yamazaki seems like the perfect fit for Takatsuki.

Luke Higham said...

Does anyone think the most fives in a lead actor year record currently held by 1973 and 2014 might actually be equalled or broken.

Luke Higham said...

Stanfield
Kaluuya
Cumberbatch
Washington
Patel
Cage
Jones
Phoenix
Nishijima
Cooper
Hoffman
Rex
Birney
Isaacs
Jadidi
And Franz Rogowski

Bryan L. said...

Calvin: Indeed.

Calvin Law said...

There’s some on that list I don’t think will necessarily get 5’s - Patel, Phoenix, Birney, and I have no idea what Louis will make of Great Freedom if/when he gets to see it - but yeah it’ll be one of the best for sure.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Toland's work in The Westerner? I've just seen the film, and quite honestly, Toland's cinematography is one of the film's few saving graces, Brennan's performance being another one.

Also, why is Joseph Ruttenberg credited for shooting The Prisoner of Zenda? I'm pretty sure James Wong Howe shot that film.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Drive My Car directed by Mikio Naruse (His style is by far the closest to the material compared to Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, Kobayashi or Ozu)

Yusuke Kafuku: Masayuki Mori
Misaki Watari: Kyoko Kagawa
Koji Takatsuki: Tsutomu Yamazaki (though Nakadai is also very tempting)
Oto Kafuku: Hideko Takamine

8000S said...

Well, the 1937 version, that is. Ruttenberg shot the 1952 one.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Toland always does good work, but I almost think that he even saw the Cooper only scenes as kind of dull, as even the scenes with Brennan tend to be interestingly shot. Typical for Toland there is that focused pristine marvel work here in general. When he ups it a bit, playing often with the nefarious nature of the judge with some choices in lighting and composition it is some remarkable shots in there.

Obviously because when you search "Prisoner of Zenda Cinematography" on google Ruttenberg comes up. (He shot the 52 version).

Anonymous said...

Brazinterma, PTA being snubbed doesn't make much sense. He's the only person who possibly could've been in the top 2 out of the BAFTA director lineup other than Campion, and the Oscars tend to like him more than the guilds.

Tim said...

i saw Scream 5 today. Didn't like it. Really didn't.

It has exactly one good idea, with the motivation of the murderer being good commentary, otherwise it's a lazy as fuck conglomerate of callbacks to the first film and on the nose meta-"jokes", with a whodunnit-mystery that anybody with half a brain will have figured out by (at last) the halfway-point. Otherwise, all actors not called Arquette are either asked to do nothing or don't deliver on what little they're asked, inbetween a lot of ligitimately cringeworthy and sometimes downright silly scenes. It's a great comedy, i laughed a lot, but not for the reasons intended.

Because, as we all know, if you point out your laziness, that means it doesn't really exist, but is actually smart commentary, not just an excuse to be lazy. Right? RIGHT? RRIIIIIIGGHHHHHTT?

It's like an annoying friend, constantly tugging at your sleeve, going "See that? Just like in the original. Remember the original? Remember the good Scream?" YES I DO, AND I WOULD MUCH PREFER WATCHING THAT RIGHT NOW!

Emi Grant said...

I'm late on Ethan's review, but goddamn that was hilarious.

RatedRStar said...

Tim: I do agree that Scream 5, is funnier more than scary in comparison to most of the other Scream films, but I don't agree that it was bad at all, I agree that Arquette is good, but didn't you think that Jack Quaid, Melissa Barrera and Jenna Ortega were good? what about that hospital confrontation scene between Barrera and Ortega, I thought the acting in that scene was of a far higher calibre than most Scream films.

RatedRStar said...

Tim: I was very mixed on the performances, but I did think that one or two performances that weren't in it too much did have a...moment or two, obviously without spoiling it.

RatedRStar said...

Tim: Also, you can't not like the end credits and song =D lol.

Tim said...

RatedRStar:

IN CASE ANYBODY IS READING THROUGH THIS WHO HAS NOT SEEN THE FILM YET; THIS MAY INCLUDE SPOILERS. FOR BIG PLOT PLOINTS YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILED.

Anyway, let's start with the credits. I didn't see them. I went out after the script credit (which is rare for me), because i just didn't want to.

Quaid: puuuh, simply don't care a lot. At least he didn't overact as much as Madison did after the twist (why is that a thing in this franchise?) Before that he's not awful, but the humor in his Character is kind of out of place and i never once believed him and Barrera to actually be in love, which might also be because of one of the worst introductory lines i've heard in cinema. Ever seen an entire audience sink into their seets and facepalm in unison? I did, at the scene with the pills in the beginning.


Ortega - honestly found her kind of bad. Esecially in the opening scene, where she overdid some facial expressions a lot. Afterwards she's there, i guess, never once made me care about her character at all really. Her strongest scene was probably her going out in her wheelchair despite her pain, which anyway was good more due to being genuinely well directed and just a creepy idea in general, not because of her. Just like every other new character, she just remained kind of unlikable.


Barrera - we will not find common ground on that, buddy. Not at all. Again, her and Quaid, never believed it. Other than that, she never made her character interesting whenever any kind of actual insight was given. She hears that her sister has been attacked, but reacts more like she was planning a wedding and just heard that the cake did not get delivered.
Granted, her character was also weirdly written. The whole thing with her father was executed in a way i found kind of silly anyway, but was also really underdeveloped and amounted to almost nothing, seemed more like a setup for actually doing something in the sequel.

And that confrontation scene? Sorry, i didn't feel anything there. Not just because of the Direction lacking, but i think it's her too. She didn't really reach the dramatic potential of that scene, kind of underselling the whole idea and sort of ... rushing through it.

JimmyStewart said...

Hi Louis,
Your ranks for (potential) Best Actresses:
--Colman
--Gaga
--Haim
--Chastain
--Stewart
--Kidman

and (potential) Best Supporting Actresses:
--Balfe
--DeBose
--Dunst
--Ellis
--Negga
--Blanchett
--Buckley

Thank you!

Luke Higham said...

He'll save that for Tuesday.

HTT said...

That Macbeth review is easily one of the greatest ever written lmao

Anonymous said...

FYI there was NO top 2 for BAFTA Best Director. That category was fully juried so the PTA top 2 thing is moot.

RatedRStar said...

Tim: Yep we definitely don't agree lol that is fine, I thought the worst performance in the film was Kyle Gallner, Mason Gooding was more menacing in that bar confrontation scene than him and I don't think that was the intention, Marley Sheldon was pretty bad too although way better here than in 4.

8000S said...

JimmyStewart: Well, hello there, Jimmy.

Louis: Your present film roles for Van Heflin.

Marcus said...

So, if Cooper doesn't get in for either Nightmare Alley or Licorice Pizza, he really needs to fire his campaign manager, doesn't he?

Anonymous said...

Still no reason to doubt PTA and that just means the BAFTA director lineup is meaningless for nominee predictions.

HTT said...

Also, I watched Encanto yesterday and I actually found myself enjoying it. Yeah, the story beats are predictable, but it's just a very warm, happy and vibrant film. Really loved the music. "We Don't Talk About Bruno" should win an Oscar. I must admit that I really dislike "Surface Pressure" though. But yeah, it's a good film and I won't be angry if it wins the Oscar for best animated feature.
8.7/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/encanto/
I haven't figured out how to rate voice performances, so I'm just not going to try to rate the performances here. If anyone has any tips on rating voice performances, let me know.

RatedRStar said...

I think Cooper would have every reason to be annoyed but its not like Louis is gonna be putting "Bradley Cooper received his fourth and final acting nomination for portraying Jackson Maine in A Star Is Born" anytime soon, he will get nominated again at some point if he doesn't here.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your cast and director for 2020s Drive and your 20 best Peter Falk moments?

RatedRStar said...

I don't remember there being many years where Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor and Supporting Actress were all inconclusive in terms of a locked in 5, there are still at least two spots in each category up for grabs.

2020 Best Actor and Actress had an obvious 5.
2019 Actress and Supporting Actor had an obvious 5.
2018 I think is the most recent year to have all 4 categories with surprises.

Bryan L. said...

Ytrewq: I'll take a crack

Directed by Robert Eggers

The Driver: Robert Pattinson
Irene: Saoirse Ronan
Shannon: Tracy Letts
Standard: Anthony Ramos
Blanche: Sarah Gadon
Bernie: Griffin Dunne

Stumped on Nino

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Bryan: Clancy Brown as Nino, perhaps?

Bryan L. said...

Ytrewq: Actually, yeah, Clancy Brown would be great.

Calvin Law said...

2020s Drive directed by Julia Ducournau

The Driver: Steven Yeun
Irene: Alana Haim
Shannon: Vincent Lindon
Standard: David Alvarez
Blanche: Agathe Rousselle
Bernie: Adam Arkin
Nino: Keith Williams Richards

HTT said...

Just watched The Suicide Squad and I actually loved it, which was something I did not expect. I haven't loved a superhero so much in ages. It isn't perfect, as Gunn's direction can get a bit messy in my opinion, but it's still just a perfect mix of style, humour, fun, emotion and action. Easily one of the best superhero movies I have watched.
9.0/10
Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/the-suicide-squad/
Cast ratings:
Margot Robbie - 4/5
Idris Elba - 4/5
John Cena - 3.5/5
Joel Kinnaman - 3.5/5
Daniela Melchior - 3.5/5
David Dastmalchian - 2.5/5
Viola Davis - 3.5/5
Peter Capaldi - 3/5

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Jay Perry
Lou Bloom
Hans (Seven Psychopaths)

Ytrewq:

1. How to live - Murder, Inc.
2. Advice to the invisible - Wings of Desire
3. Offer - Murder, Inc.
4. Trying to raise the kids - A Woman Under the Influence
5. Sorta Kidnapping - The In-Laws
6. Being Threatened - Murder, Inc.
7. How to Live - Wings of Desire
8. As You Wish - The Princess Bride
9. Long dinner - A Woman Under the Influence
10. His story - Murder By Death
11. Going around the city - Wings of Desire
12. Meeting with a dictator - The In-Laws
13. Trying to reprimand - A Woman Under the Influence
14. Last scene - Murder, Inc.
15. Fake story - Murder By Death
16. Arrival - The Princess Bride
17. All traitor - The Twilight Zone
18. Plan - The In-Laws
19. Seeing the Last Traitor - The Twilight Zone
20. Ending - A Woman Under the Influence

Mitchell Murray said...

2020s Drive (director...I'm open to suggestions)

Driver - Tom Hardy (I mean, look what he did with so few words in "Mad Max")
Irene - Ana de Armas
Bernie - John C Reilly (In the sense that like Brooks before "Drive", he's someone who's almost never played bad guys despite likely having the talent for it. It could be a really disarming idea, I think)
Shannon - Liev Schrieber
Nino - Clancy Brown
Standard - Pedro Pascal
Blanche - Blake Lively

Robert MacFarlane said...

Just saw West Side Story a third time and am sitting down for a second helping of Licorice Pizza. Movies are good!

Also, the only thing I’d want from a 2020’s Drive is at least three or four CHVRCHES songs.

Robert MacFarlane said...

(And yes, third viewing further cemented my stance on Faist. Louis, your check is in the mail to give him the win.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Did you see Blackadder Goes Forth.

Calvin Law said...

My fruit basket is for Anders Danielsen Lie to take the overall.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I genuinely have no clue about who's going to be Louis's win in the acting categories this year. Although if I had to guess...

Actor- Cumberbatch/Nishijima
Actress- Haim
Supporting Actor- Smit-McPhee
Supporting Actress - Hunter (the Robert Shaw in The Sting type of win)

Robert MacFarlane said...

My guess is:

Actor: Cage or Nishijima (AKA Psifonian v. Calvin: Dawn of Meaningless Internet Stuff)
Actress: Haim
Supporting Actor: Faist (AKA Robert was right, year 2)
Supporting Actress: Hunter

Matt Mustin said...

My guess:
Actor: Washington or Nishijima
Actress: Haim
Supporting Actor: Cooper
Supporting Actress: Hunter

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Late to the party, but the Ethan Coen review was pure gold

Robert MacFarlane said...

Matt, tell me when you see WSS. Because I know the theater kid in you is gonna LOVE Faist.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: I'm sure I will, but my prediction of Cooper winning is due to the fact that Louis obviously loves Licorice Pizza, and as a matter of fact hasn't even *really* hidden how much he enjoyed Cooper in it.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the cinematography of Downfall(2004)? I watched it tonight and was actually a little surprised how much I liked that aspect of it.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your rating & thoughts on Mark O’Brien and Emory Cohen in Blue Bayou.

Matt Mustin said...

Razzies nominated Ben Affleck for The Last Duel, presumably because, and I have to assume this is actually the reason, they just find the idea of him in a period piece funny.

Calvin Law said...

Razzies fucking suck. My prediction for the win is:

Actor: Nishijima or Cooper (seen the film twice and honestly it’s a very Louis’ win performance)
Actress: Haim (would love it to be Reinsve but as soon as I read Haim’s thoughts I knew she had it in the bag)
Supporting Actor: Absolutely no clue
Supporting Actress: Hunter (same as Haim)

Calvin Law said...

Also honestly, Simon Rex? Rewatched Red Rocket this weekend and it really does stand the test of rewatches.

Shaggy Rogers said...

At least Leto is in the right prize pool, while SAG and Critics Choice screwed up.
I loved the Bruce Willis category.

Luke Higham said...

The Affleck nomination is complete BS. Honestly, the hate is getting really stale at this point.

Calvin Law said...

Leto doesn't deserve it either, imo.

Agreed with Luke, people are beating the dead horse with this Affleck hate.

Tim said...

welcome to another round of "The Razzies being an imbecillic shit-show run by incestuous hillbillies"

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Would you be able to give thoughts on the saves you're willing to get rid of first before reviewing all the Oscar categories tomorrow. I really want to see what rating you're going to give Rylance.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Luke: He might want to save his thoughts on Rylance till DiCaprio's review, in case he wants to finalize a lower rating.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: Compared to the other 4, DiCaprio isn't a sure thing. If he does turn up, then I'm willing to wait.

Calvin Law said...

Praying that DiCaprio doesn't get an interview of any sort, that fifth spot has so many more deserving contenders.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke and Calvin: The only reason I could see for Affleck's nomination is that the film failed commercially, and of the principle cast, he's perhaps the easiest to make fun of.

Which is total bunk, if we're being honest, and no good reason why Affleck should continue to be recognized as one of the "worst actors of the year". I just can't help but sympathize with him here; After such a rollarcoaster of a filmography, he re-teams with one of his closest friends and one of the most prolific working directors, and not only does his movie underperform, he gets singled out for the same award he recieved for "Daredevil" and "Gigli" - talk about beating a man while he's down.

Anonymous said...

Ben Affleck's nomination is really dumb. They should have nominated Don Cheadle for Space Jam 2 instead.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Anonymous: I personaly would have picked someone like John Magaro in Many Saints of Newark instead of Affleck, but I'm going to assume nominating Affleck was the Hollywood's attempt to atone for showering Shakespeare in Love with Oscars considering BA's involvement in both of them and similliar genre. May not be true, but a little conspiracy theory like this will be at least interesting.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys. A question for you:
If The Eternals had been released in 2020, do you believe Zhao could have accomplished the same feat as Spielberg at the 1994 Oscars (Schindler and Jurrasic Park)? That is, Nomadland competing in the main categories while the Marvel movie in technical categories (visual effects, sound, costumes, makeup).

Shaggy Rogers said...

My guess is:
Actor: Nishijima
Actress: Haim
Supporting Actor: Cooper
Supporting Actress: Hunter

Shaggy Rogers said...

I saw Drive My Car and loved this masterpiece. I'm with Calvin, I trade Cage for Nishijima in my "Heart Nominees".

My guess is:
Actor: Nishijima
Actress: Haim
Supporting Actor: Cooper
Supporting Actress: Hunter

RatedRStar said...

My final predictions

Best Picture and Director
PGA 10 and 4, Hamaguchi to replace Spielberg

Best Actor
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Leonardo DiCaprio - Don't Look Up
Andrew Garfield - Tick, Tick... Boom!
Will Smith - King Richard
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth

Best Actress
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Olivia Colman - The Lost Daughter
Lady Gaga - House of Gucci
Alana Haim - Licorize Pizza
Nicole Kidman - Being the Ricardos

Best Supporting Actor
Bradley Cooper - Licorice Pizza
Ciaran Hinds - Belfast
Troy Kotsur - CODA
Jared Leto - House Of Gucci
Kodi Smit McPhee - The Power of the Dog

Best Supporting Actress
Caitriona Balfe - Belfast
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Aunjanue Ellis - King Richard
Ruth Negga - Passing

Anonymous said...

Kinda weird how Kristen Stewart went from being the frontrunner to win to not even a lock to be nominated.

Calvin Law said...

Fellas, we predicting Belle? I'm predicting Belle. I cannot abide to have a fucking lineup with just Disney films.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Ever since Boss Baby got in over Your Name, I have no faith in the Animated Feature category. I actually doubt whether Spirited Away would have won if it were released in say, the past 5 years.

RatedRStar said...

Calvin: I have Encanto, Luca, Flee, Mitchells and Raya, if I had a sixth, it would actually be Sing 2, because it got PGA, Belle just isn't cracking anywhere tbh.

Calvin Law said...

Flee will be a nice antidote I suppose (confession: I'm just not as huge on Mitchells as most seem to be here). I'm predicting Belle anyway because I just can't bear the thought honestly. Sing 2 I watched a few days ago and it is just exceptionally average.

Anonymous said...

I'm predicting the same five as RatedRStar.

HTT said...

So, I just watched Andrew Davis' Holes from 2003 after reading Louis Sachar's original novel, and ... First of all, if there is anyone here who grew up with this film or something, take this as an apology in advance.

Holy shit! Talk about misinterpreting art! A book as complex, layered and well-written was never meant for a Disney movie that ends with the actors rapping about the movie! If it wasn't for the amazing visuals, I would have called this a disasterpiece.

1.3/10

Letterboxd review here:
https://letterboxd.com/htt/film/holes/

No cast ratings. The cast was very clearly bad, but I see that some of them had fun with their roles, which for me makes it a bit hard to rate them.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: What would you say is your biggest worry about tomorrows Oscar nominations?

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: McKay's mine.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I would say mine is that the nominations are predictable, and there ends up being no major surprises, fortunately I don't see how they could be predictable this year.

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