Sunday 10 October 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2000: Sean Connery in Finding Forrester

Sean Connery did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying William Forrester in Finding Forrester. 

Finding Forrester is perhaps an overly straight forward, though wholly good film, about an aspiring athlete/writer Jamal (Rob Brown), chancing upon a reclusive though extremely famed writer with whom he strikes up an unlikely mentor-ship/friendship. 

Sean Connery's last decade of his active career is easily his least impressive as a performer. This decade was marked most frequently as a somewhat self-indulgent performer. After his Oscar win many of his performances suggested an actor who had nothing left to prove critically or commercially, so he just kind of coasted on his general charisma while calling it a day. This was certainly the case for his final performance in the properly maligned League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but if Connery had ended his career one film earlier, he would've exited the profession on a performance he bothered to actually try. That being this film in Gus Van Sant's spiritual followup to Good Will Hunting, a film also about an unexpected young genius finding guidance via a bearded star, though to be fair there's more of a back and forth here, and Connery was bearded at most times post Bond. Anyway though, Connery plays here outside of the aged badass and instead plays a renowned literary figure, modeled on JD Salinger by being a recluse, having one age defining novel, and also an interest in baseball evidently. Connery's own presence is used well in the introduction of his Forrester, by basically an importance to character is naturally enforced because, well, it is Sean Connery, and he naturally makes an impact. 

Connery is playing into a type initially as the cold man with a past, though what I like here is that actually Connery nor the film dwell on this too much. We get a bit of exasperation from the aged man, and Connery delivers this well. He brings much more of an edge than we got in a lot of his 90's work, where he was often so Connery, it was a problem. That presence of his is here, but in his initial reaction towards Jamal, when he trespassed on him based on basically a dare, Connery's intensity actually reveals character and he's not just coasting on his remarkable presence as a performer. Honestly before watching the film I had imagined a little bit in my head the lazy version of this performance by Connery himself, this just as the exasperated old man who is harsh yet secretly caring. I think what I found special here then is one being the moments of exasperation Connery doesn't sugarcoat it creating a real sense of the bitterness in the man in these moments. What is even more surprising though is how much of this performance isn't that coldness, and really we get a genuinely warm performance from Connery. This in the moment of Forrester saying his limits, which essentially Jamal needs to largely not ask him about his reclusiveness, Connery shows an honest eagerness for connection with the young man. This as his moments of teaching are with enthusiasm and in his eyes there is the sense of the old spirit of the writer being encouraged by this young man's own talents. I mean the fact that Connery's delivery of "You're the man now, dog!", doesn't come off as ridiculous is a testament to the devotion he brings here, and makes just this natural moment of Forrester being playful with Jamal.

Connery earns the warmth here by portraying each moment of this as really this excitement within the act of teaching, and the enjoyment really of the life behind writing. Connery finds a nice balance within his delivery of Forrester's wisdom that brings both a sense of the fun Forrester has with imparting wisdom, while also the proper conviction to convey such a form of wisdom. Connery devotes himself here in a way that feels like prime Connery and through his chemistry with Brown creates a genuinely moving and endearing friendship/mentorship at the center of the film. There is that entertaining quality in the unlikely pair, but they are also wholly believable all the same. This to the point when Forrester pours out his trauma to Jamal, essentially his reclusive life is from the death of his brother, it feels like a natural progression and is helped all the more by Connery's delivery of the moment. He brings a natural vulnerability here that speaks to Connery's best work. He isn't James Bond in this moment, or some variation of the character, he's Forrester the writer hurt by his seeming failures. This as Connery conjures a genuine sense of the history in his quiet delivery of the monologue. A monologue that he paints not with big melodrama, but a quiet sense of a buried pain that has left the man anchored to such a singular existence. And again as much as this isn't a great film, partially through the plot progression that makes things a little too clean, Connery is always good. This being most notable in the film's somewhat contrived climax where Forrester needs to come out of his home to deliver a dramatic speech to save Jamal from a jealous college professor (F. Murray Abraham). Connery though gives credence to the situation through his performance. What I like so much about the scene is that Connery doesn't over play it, or just play it as pure passion, as he easily could've. Rather he stays with the character of recluse, giving some awkwardness to the speech at points, almost stumbling in moments, and bringing a degree of shyness befitting a confident man, but a confident man who has spent years speaking to few people. He plays the moment as William Forrester, not as Sean Connery. And in that sense this is that performance, that should've been his swan song, as it features Connery giving a truly devoted turn here one last time, one that speaks to his strengths as a star presence, but also his strengths as an actor.

55 comments:

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: your ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast of the film?

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Paquin & Pitt - 2.5(I'd say the film's least impressive elements are really the supporting characters outside of the central pair other than Crawford. These two exemplify this as they are both finish in really rote roles that never go anywhere interesting. They don't do much with their parts, but there aren't much of parts to begin with.)

Abraham - 3.5(Speaks to the strangeness of his career that this is like his third most notable part until just recently. Anyway though Abraham is great at pompousness and makes for a properly despicable villain. This just his sense of self-satisfaction wrapped around his pettiness can be found in every one of his overly indulgent deliveries, that are ideal for this role. A role that I think could've been easily too much as well, but Abraham is despicable in just the right way for the film. This particularly in the moments where he isn't being actively smug towards the students, and rather the moments of speaking towards integrity with a different lower key smugness.)

RatedRStar said...

This is a bit of a sad question to ask everybody, I ask this because of Connerys passing which made my mother very upset at the time, what was the saddest you ever got from an actor/celebrity death, that made you genuinely upset when you heard that this person passed away?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Although not extraordinary, it could have been a good farewell to Connery. It could be the last movie, if it wasn't... LXG.

Lucas Saavedra said...

RatedRStar: when Robin Williams passed away, I remember getting pretty sad about it

Marcus said...

RatedRStar: Chadwick Boseman and John Hurt hit particularly hard.

RatedRStar said...

Shaggy Rogers: To be fair he did do Bond one last time in the "From Russia With Love" videogame, which he was solid in.

Mitchell Murray said...

RatedRStar: Honestly, there are a great number of them for me. And on a slightly different point, there are a lot of late celebrities who when I see them now in films, fill me with sadness knowing they're no longer with us.

For fairly recent examples - James Gandolfini, Robin Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Chadwick Boseman, Alan Rickman, Bill Paxton and Christopher Plummer come to mind.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RatedRStar:Most recent one was Ed Asner beacuse I realized that at the same time Carl Fredricksen passed away as well.

Tim said...

RatedRStar: i was still pretty young when it happened, but Robin Williams and Alan Rickman hit differently. Relatively recently Olivia de Havilland, as at 100 years still having a cast member of Gone With The Wind with us was just really cool. Anton Yelchin, just for the absolute shock of it. Ian Holm caught me off guard.

But the one that hit the most was Chester Bennington really

Aidan Pittman said...

RatedRStar: Robin Williams' passing was the first celebrity death where I recall being really hit hard, though Chadwick Boseman's is easily the one that's shaken me the most. I was sad to hear when Agnès Varda passed also.

Emi Grant said...

RatedRStar: Some deaths have upset me or shocked me a bit (Plummer and Boseman come to mind), but the one that truly hit me on a personal level was Stefan Karl Stefansson's.

It might sound ridiculous, but I already had had a fondness for his work in Lazy Town (which I grew up watching quite a bit). Furthermore, around 2016-2017; when I was going through some really rough stuff, the ridiculous amount of "We Are Number One" memes over the internet gave me just enough of a escape with laughter from feeling overwhelmed all the time. Those were really some of my better memories from that time.

I still remember the day it happened and feeling like I had lost a friend when hearing of the news.

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Joaquin Phoenix
2. Paddy Considine
3. Song Kang-ho
4. Lucas Black
5. Jeremy Irons

I’ll list my predictions for the other set by sometime on Tuesday.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RatedRStar: For me, the most heartbreaking ones were Olivia de Havilland and Ilene Woods. The later in particular was devastating as she passed away on my birthday.

Luke Higham said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarría
3. MacLachlan
4. Tobolowsky
5. Connery

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on No Time To Die and the cast.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these Manhunter and Blue Velvet casts.

Manhunter 1940's by Otto Preminger

Will Graham: Dana Andrews
Francis Dollarhyde: John Carradine
Jack Crawford: Brian Donlevy
Molly Graham: Gene Tierney
Reba McClane: Jennifer Jones
Hannibal Lecter: Charles Laughton
Freddy Londs: William Bendix

Blue Velvet 1950's by Alfred Hitchcock

Jeffrey Beaumont: Anthony Perkins
Dorothy Vallens: Ingrid Bergman
Frank Booth: James Cagney
Sandy Williams: Elizabeth Montgomery
Mrs. Williams: Myrna Loy
Detective Williams: Robert Montgomery
Ben: Vincent Price

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis, what are your 5 best Geoffrey Rush performances and do you think he would have been a good choice to play Joker in the 1980s version of Dark Knight (as they were considering him apparently for this role in 2008 when he was already over 50 years old)?

Calvin Law said...

I saw Passing and Mass these past two days, and if they can get Negga (who is very much supporting) and Plimpton (who like all of the principals is a co-lead but I understand why they're campaigning in Supporting, all four performances have to be in the same category to make sense) in for Supporting Actress I will be overjoyed. Dowd is great too.

Anonymous said...

Calvin: Your ratings for the cast of Passing and Mass?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

So I guess I'm probably the least positive on the film overall. This as I think there are some obvious flaws. The motivation of Malek's Safin after the halfway mark makes no sense whatsoever. Also when your chief villain is laughable, it's also kind of problem. I also think it is too weighed down by plot points of Spectre, particularly as I don't think the central relationship is as potent as either film thinks it is despite the actors' best efforts in that regard. The tone additionally I think struggles, as it too can't quite cohere the intensity of Royale with classic Bond manner, much like Spectre couldn't though this film is better than that one in most ways.

Having said that, I really liked Fukunaga's direction, the aesthetic of the film and many of the lighter character interactions. Thought all the set pieces were strong particularly the Cuba one, though that is also due to my favorite part of the film, that kind of made me wish the whole thing had been a bit more of a romp. Still overall what the film did do well, it did very well, and I have to say I did love that final song choice as it perfectly reflected the other Bond ending it most closely shares its spirit with.

I'll start with ratings and get to thoughts in a moment.

Craig - 4
Malek - 2 Wiseaus
Seydoux - 4
Lynch - 3.5
Whishaw - 3.5
Harris - 3
Wright - 3.5
Waltz - 2
Fiennes - 3
Magnussen - 2.5
Armas - 4(MVP despite her limited screentime)
Dencik - 1
Benssalah - 2(Bautista set a high bar that he completely missed)

8000's:

Excellent choices, Laughton, Jones, Andrews and Carradine are particularly inspired for Manhunter, also love the Perkins, Price and Cagney choices.

Ytrewq:

I think I gave that somewhat recently. And yes, I think he would've made an effective Joker in the 80's, Dark Knight he really would've been too old for that particular Joker.

Tim said...

Louis: thoughts on the cast of No Time To Die?

Tim said...

also, thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQVSmnMA5SM&t=311s


í know you're not the highest on the film itself, but i think this was rather accurate very funny to boot

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Craig - (Craig has always been good no matter the overall quality of the Bond film he is in, and here and Spectre I really think he was tasked with a very tough challenge that he actually did pretty well with. This being his performance needs to brave some serious dramatic weight while also bringing a more classic lighter Bond touch at times. It is the testament to his talent that he doesn't fall on his face at any point, and does ease the uneven qualities within the film's intentions in tone at times. He once again delivers, although I wish he could've returned to the greatness of Casino Royale for this last go around, that's not the case, but it is another rock solid reprise.)

Malek - (I mean I got a positive reaction to his performance in that I started to have to hold back laughter in his attempt at doing creepy here, that just came off as so very funny to me each and every time he does it. Malek certainly has seen other creep performances I think, but his attempt at one here just feels completely ridiculous.)

Seydoux - (Yeah the chemistry just isn't there for this to be Bond's true love, and the thing is I would've believed it with Eva Green, heck would've bought it with Harris honestly more than Seydoux. Seydoux to her credit though does her dramatic best though to enforce this intention, and create at least an emotional depth that suggests the gravity of their situation despite that connection never quite being evident. She's on point in realizing her character's emotional struggles throughout, even if again there is something missing at the core of it all.)

Lynch - (A nice charismatic turn, though I honestly think she's a little underused at times, I wished we got a bit more back and forth between her and Craig. The scenes though we do get it, she has a nice sassy manner, without overdoing. Making her minor arc work, while also bringing her own natural energy to it all.)

Whishaw & Harris - (Like these two, and Kinnear for that matter, as Bond's support team, even if they always seem to leave me wanting more, particularly for Harris is. They all do great with what they do have.)

Wright - (Fulfilling a slightly different support role, and I love the chemistry between he and Craig so much, I really wish we got far more of his Leiter throughout the whole Craig saga.)

Waltz - (I mean you can take his boredom tired delivery as a man in a certain state of mind, I took it as an actor bored and just wanting to get his scenes over with.)

Fiennes - (The prospect of Fiennes as M is still awesome, but they never were willing to give him Dench level material. He has a little more to do here, but not quite enough. Does well with what he has however.)

Magnussen - (How many times are we getting the variations of the himbo from him exactly? Usually I wouldn't call really a character actor at this point overexposed, but his roles are so similar it is more than a little tired.)

Dencik - (See I was going to say I think he thought he was in the Fast and Furious, but I really think he thought he was in Rocky and Bullwinkle honestly. What the hell was going on here, and how did such a film let this happen. He is atrocious, playing to the back seats as a comic foil that honestly would be a bit much even in the Roger Moore Bonds.)

Armas - (What can I say really on this one, other than I loved everything she did here. Just here comic yet also stylish energy here was just perfection in terms of being everything you'd want from a secondary Bond girl, all within just one sequence. She's just wonderful, and her chemistry with Craig carries over from Knives Out as the two just seem to gel in a particularly endearing way, despite having a very different dynamic here.)

Matt Mustin said...

Haven't seen No Time to Die Yet, so I don't know if it's possible or not, but maybe Ralph Fiennes will be a holdover M to the next Bond like Dench was from Brosnan to Craig.

RatedRStar said...

I think the thing that annoyed me most with Magnussens performance was that ridiculous psycho laugh that he did.

Sean Ingram said...

Honestly, if Phoenix wins the overall here somehow, it would be poetic. The Gladiator was his first reviewed performance on this blog, he got just 2.5(few harsh comments underneath too), and now all of that would probably come full circle here to give him #1 for that exact year but for a very different performance. Plus, I feel Phoenix would be very worthy of 2 wins on this blog. At least way better than his real life Oscar win for Joker. Hopefully he gets at least a 5 here.

Matt Mustin said...

Sean: He's definitely getting a 5. Whether he wins or not, I don't know.

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous:

Thompson - 4
Negga - 5
Holland - 4
Skarsgard - 3
Camp - 3.5

Birney - 4.5/5
Dowd - 4.5/5
Isaacs - 5
Plimpton - 5

Luke Higham said...

Sean: What rating would you give Jeremy Irons in Dungeons And Dragons.

Luke Higham said...

Sean: I watched the whole film yesterday and boy is it dreadful from 'almost' top to bottom. I think Irons (the sole enjoyable element) took the right approach going insanely over the top when working with really generic writing and opposite such boring performances, especially Thora Birch who I'd give a 0 to. Some of his line deliveries are flat out hilarious. I love the fact that he only took part in it to help renovate his Irish castle.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Thora Birch is worth at least 1 Wiseau for just *how* few shits she gave.

Sean Ingram said...

Luke: 4 actually. A refined slice of ham performance lol. I appreciate actors having fun in a rather terrible movie and Irons did a great job at that. I don't know if it's fair rating him higher than others here, but I would place him higher than Black at least. I haven't seen Black and Connery yet. But from what I heard, Black is pretty good in a very horrible movie too. So I am predicting 3.5 for Black.

Luke Higham said...

Sean: I wouldn't be surprised if Louis gave him a low 4.5 when he gave Raul Julia a 5 for Street Fighter.

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Mitchell Murray said...

Me: As someone whose never watched "Dungeons and Dragons", I proceed to look up this youtube clip regarding Irons...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCGeOtjIHQ

Also me: Spends a few minutes mentally reviewing Irons, trying to determine his influences for his performance in this 5 minute clip...

William Shatner, perhaps? Some of his choppy line readings are certainly familiar, but Shatner's delivery often stemmed from him forgetting his lines, something Irons is hardly known for.

Peter Finch? A bit of a stretch, admittedly, though the intensity Irons displays is at a similar register to Finch's famous speech from "Network".

The thought also crosses my mind that Ian McDiarmid, the famously ham fisted emperor of galactic evil, may have seen Irons performance prior to "Revenge of the Sith".

Then again, maybe these observations are still too much of a stretch. Maybe Irons simply realized what kind of film he'd signed up for, and decided to have fun. Maybe this is the result of a professional, trained actor finally having a chance to cut loose, to shed that normally reserved image he's so known for. He's often the aspect of the movie people discuss the most, but is that a good thing or bad thing? Is this Irons worst performance, or is it, in a strange way, one of his most inspired?

The singular impact of Irons has forced a personal conflict of sorts. I ask myself is the film itself worth watching in it's entirity, or am I content having seen these couple minutes? The film is apparently 108 minutes; I contemplate the things I could do in that time frame, if I'd really be missing out by watching it all the way through. The phrase "it vexes me...i'm terribly vexed" comes to mind, perhaps from subconsciously recalling another 2000 performance that's been of notable division on this blog. Is it worth charting terrible and potentially dangerous territory just for the knowledge, of experiencing a single bright spot among everlasting mediocrity? Or are some things best left to those who have the time, and more importantly the bravery, to remain steadfast against the truly awful?

I eventually choose to exit my train of thought, for fear that if I linger any longer, I may come out a different person. My feelings of confusion, curiousity and sheer bafflement are, for the moment, partially satiated. I can't help but wonder, however - if 5 minutes of the film took me down this path, what lies in store for those who've seen/going to see it all?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

^
| Things like this make me sad that Wacky World of Wiseau has been discontinued

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: I think one has to see the whole film to wholly understand the approach he had to take with the role given how trashy the rest of the film is whereas if it's seen out of that context, it would more than likely be deemed a terrible performance from him.

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Luke Higham said...

Sean: He's a 4 for me personally.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: In relation to my previous question, what would you say about this cast for 1980s Dark Knight (and your idea for the director?):

Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne
Geoffrey Rush as The Joker
John Gielgud as Alfred Pennyworth
James Caan as Comissioner Gordon
James Woods as Harvey Dent
Marcia Gay Harden as Rachel Dawes
Harry Belafonte as Lucius Fox
James Garner as Salvatore Maroni

HTT said...

I am currently finishing up on my review on Vertigo, and then I came across this theory which may be the most stupid thing I have ever heard. There are some who believe that Scottie actually dies at the start of Vertigo, and that everything that happens in the film is his final thoughts before his death. I laughed when I read that. That means everything that happens in the whole film, all the themes and symbolism, don't mean anything. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Just wanted to share that.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on the voice of Elizabeth Taylor?

Both Kathleen Turner and Judy Garland disliked her voice and said it affected her acting negatively

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
Tell us which are the best from 2021 so far. Mine are ...

Film: The Power of the Dog
Director: Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
Lead Actor: Nicolas Cage - Pig
Lead Actress: Ann Dowd - Mass
Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Original Screenplay: Judas and the Black Messiah
Adapted Screenplay: The Power of the Dog

Bryan L. said...

Ytrewq: For director, I think Michael Mann or John McTiernan could be good shouts.

Woods seems naturally skeevy for him to play someone overtly heroic/dashing like Harvey Dent.

Mitchell Murray said...

Question for everyone here: If they were to try and bring Sand Man into another live action "Spider Man" film, who would you cast?

I'll go on record and say Thomas Haden Church is - by a large margin - the best thing in "Spider Man 3", and does a solid job of showing the human side of Marko explored by Raimi. It also doesn't hurt that Marko is one of the most sympathetic spider man villains, and has been repeatedly shown in that light (see Spectacular Spider Man).

As for a more recent casting choice...I think David Harbour could acquit himself rather well.

Sean Ingram said...
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Mitchell Murray said...

Sean: Yah, Bautista could definitely pull it off as well.

8000S said...

Ytrewq: I think I'd rather see Willem Dafoe as Joker for that 80's TDK.

Louis: What are your thoughts on the voices of Dana Andrews, Paul Newman, William Holden, Gene Tierney, Rita Hayworth and Ava Gardner?

Matt Mustin said...

Yeah, I'm not feeling Geoffrey Rush for the Joker AT ALL.

8000S said...

It'd be something else if Irons got a 5 for Dungeons and Dragons. It's like Raul Julia in Street Fighter. You can tell he's having so much fun in the role. The role required a stylized and theatrical style of performance, and a lesser actor would have underplayed the role. Irons knew that in order to not to bore the audience, he needed to ham it up. Really, he knew what he was doing with the character, unlike Thora Birch, who is so dull and bored out of her mind in this.

Tim said...

thoughts on the Home Sweet Home Alone trailer? As someone who doesn't give a piss about the original, that's still a big "No." from me

Houndtang said...

There is also a video on YouTube of Jezza Irons howling (an inadequate word for what he does here) ‘lettttttttttt their bloooooddddd raaaaaaaiiinnnn from the skkkkkkkiiiiiiieeeeesssss!!!!’ for ten straight minutes. It’s pretty world changing.

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Eh that doesn't look bad, it looks really bad.

Ytrewq:

Eh I'd personally also opt for Dafoe over Rush, and someone else over Woods (cast him as Maroni, I could even see him as the Joker).

Anonymous:

Well really I think they were referring to her harsher later voice, that is certainly distinct in its own right, rather than her lighter voice that is a touch less unique.

8000's:

Andrews & Newman - (Pretty much both classic man's man voices.)

Holden - (Funny thing is one of the great man's man voices of all time eventually, while his younger voice actually is surprisingly soft.)

Tierney - (Less distinct than some though sultry in her own right.)

Hayworth and Gardner - (Pretty much embody the world sultry in very similar ways,.)

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