Thursday, 7 October 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2000

And Nominees Were Not:

Emilio Echevarria in Amores Perros
 
Kyle MacLachlan in Hamlet
 
Malcolm McDowell in Gangster No. 1 (and to continue to contemplate his placement)

Stephen Tobolowsky in Memento

Sean Connery in Finding Forrester

Predict those Five, These Five or Both.
 
Joaquin Phoenix in The Yards

Lucas Black in All The Pretty Horses

Jeremy Irons in Dungeons and Dragon

Paddy Considine in A Room For Romeo Brass

Song Kang-ho in Joint Security Area

59 comments:

Sonny Murphy said...

1. McDowell
2. MacLachlan
3. Echevarria
4. Tobolowsky
5. Connery

1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Kang-ho
4. Black
5. Irons

Matt Mustin said...

1. McDowell
2. Tobolowsky
3. Echevarria
4. MacLachlan
5. Connery


1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Issey Ogata in Yi Yi and Donald Sutherland in Panic.

Bryan L. said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Luke Higham said...

And that picture of Irons, LOL.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. MacLachlan
2. McDowell
3. Echevarría
4. Tobolowsky
5. Connery

1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Song
4. Black
5. Irons

Anonymous said...

Luke, your ratings predictions

Matt Mustin said...

That image of Irons does not convince me that it's a fun performance to watch, but whatever.

Luke Higham said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Luke Higham said...

McDowell - 5
Echevarria - 5
MacLachlan - 5
Connery - 4.5
Tobolowsky - 4.5

Considine - 5
Phoenix - 5
Irons - At worst, 1/Wiseaus, at best, 4.5
Song - 4.5
Black - 4

Matt Mustin said...

Incidentally, I'd give MacLachlan a 4. But I also hated the movie, so I can see someone who likes it giving him a higher rating.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I’m on the “neutral/lukewarm” camp on the film overall, but I’d also give Maclachlan a 4. I actually took more to Sam Shepard.

Razor said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. Tobolowsky
4. MacLachlan
5. Connery

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Black
5. Irons

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Ratings/thoughts on Jennifer Connelly & Marlon Wayans in Requiem for A Dream, plus Patrick Warburton & Eartha Kitt in The Emperor’s New Groove

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: Shepard has REALLY stuck with me, and in fact may be one of the best versions of the ghost I've seen.

Luke Higham said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. MacLachlan
4. Connery
5. Tobolowsky

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Luke Higham said...

I hope we get Irons after Song and Connery.

Aidan Pittman said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. Tobolowsky
4. Connery
5. MacLachlan

1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Calvin Law said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. Tobolowsky
4. MacLachlan
5. Connery

1. Considine (he’s winning this lineup)
2. Song
3. Phoenix
4. Black
5. Irons

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Mads Mikkelsen in Flickering Lights, John C. Reilly and John Hawkes in The Perfect Storm and Peter Stormare and David Morse in Dancer In The Dark.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1.McDowell
2.Echevarria
3.MacLachlan
4.Tobolowsky
5.Connery


1.Considine
2.Phoenix
3.Song
4.Black
5.Irons

Luke Higham said...

Sean: From what I've seen:

1. Considine
2. McDowell
3. Tobolowsky

John Smith said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. Tobolowsky
4. MacLachlan
5. Connery

1. Considine
2. Song
3. Phoenix
4. Black
5. Irons


Glenn said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. MacLachlan
4. Tobolowsky
5. Connory

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Luke Higham said...

Updated films to watch

Nuremberg

Re-watches (If you haven't already)
The Patriot (Re-watch for Isaacs)
Gladiator (Re-watch for Crowe)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Re-watch for Michelle Yeoh)

Nurse Betty
The Widow Of Saint-Pierre (Juliette Binoche)
Girlfight
Eureka
Best In Show
The Road To El Dorado
Snatch
Final Destination
The Beach
Miss Congeniality (An entertaining performance from Bullock)
Vatel
Space Cowboys
The Cell
Hollow Man

Razor said...

I'd also like to add The Way of the Gun and State and Main for films to watch.

Maciej said...

1.McDowell
2.Echevarria
3.Tobolowsky
4.MacLachlan
5.Connery

1.Song
2.Considine
3.Black
4.Phoenix
5.Irons

Tim said...

1) McDowell
2) Echevarria
3) Tobolowsky
2) MacLachlan
1) Connery


1) Considine
2) Phoenix
3) Song
4) Irons
5) Black

Tim said...

your thoughts on the Screenplay of You Can Count On Me?

Emi Grant said...

1. McDowell
2. Echeverria
3. Tobolowsky
4. Connery
5. MacLachlan

1. Song
2. Considine
3. Phoenix
4. Black
5. Irons

Anonymous said...

1. McDowell
2. Echeverria
3. MacLachlan
4. Toblowsky
5. Connery

1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Song
4. Black
5. Irons

RatedRStar said...

1. McDowell
2. Echeverria
3. MacLachlan
4. Toblowsky
5. Connery

1. Phoenix
2. Considine
3. Song
4. Black
5. Irons

I am gonna take a guess that Lucas Black here is the equivalent of Eddie Redmayne in Hick or something along those lines, could be wrong but the films negative reception and that picture as well made me think of Redmayne.

Robert MacFarlane said...

RatedRStar: Black was considered the de facto standout of the film, and I know for a fact Psifonian was a huge fan of this performance.

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. MacLachlan
4. Connery
5. Tobolowsky

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Black
5. Irons

Thomas said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. Tobolowsky
4. MacLachlan
5. Connery

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Calvin Law said...

I watched Great Freedom and The Hand of God today, which are two of my favourites of the year, in particular the latter which is probably my favourite of the year, period.

Matthew Brown said...

1. McDowell
2. Echevarria
3. MacLachlan
4. Tobolowsky
5. Connery

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

Anonymous said...

Calvin: Your ratings for the casts of both Great Freedom and The Hand Of God?

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous:

Rogowski: 5 (my win for the year now)
Friedrich: 4.5
von Lucke: 4
Prenn: 3.5

Scotti: 4.5
Servillo: 4.5
Saponagelo: 4.5
Ranieri: 4/4.5
Gallo: 3
Carpentieri: 3.5
Joubert: 3.5
Pedrazzi: 4/4.5
Manna: 3.5
Capano: 3.5

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Any chance for an upgrade for Levi Stubbs in 1986? I rewatched Little Shop the other night and his line readings are so A+.

BRAZINTERMA said...

5º Sean Connery
4º Kyle MacLachlan
3º Stephen Tobolowsky
2º Emilio Echevarria
1º Malcolm McDowell

5º Jeremy Irons
4º Lucas Black
3º Song Kang-ho
2º Joaquin Phoenix
1º Paddy Considine

8000S said...

1. McDowell
2. Tobolowsky
3. MacLachlan
4. Echivarria
5. Connery

1. Considine
2. Phoenix
3. Song
4. Irons
5. Black

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Toland's Oscar-nominated work in Dead End and Les Miserables.

I'm rather surprised that he wasn't nominated for his work in The Best Years of Our Lives, considering how much love the film got at the Academy.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on No Time To Die and the cast with ratings.

HTT said...

McDowell and Phoenix are gonna win this one.

Calvin Law said...

Thought Titane was brilliant.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Liked Titane, but also thought it suffered from too many metaphors at once. Liked the first third more than the Lindon section. Want to see a crossover with Malignant.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Did you see Mass? If so, ratings and thoughts on the cast.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for London and Rousselle in Titane?

Calvin Law said...

Matthew: 5 for Rousselle, 4.5 for Lindon (could go up to a 5).

Anonymous said...

Your top 10 singers turned actors?

Luke Higham said...

Sean: He's a 5 for the former and as far as I know, he's yet to see the latter. Also, he doesn't give ratings to Mini-Series/Series performances.

Anonymous said...

My prediction for the final rank:

1. Malcolm McDowell
2. Paddy Considine
3. Joaquin Phoenix
4. Jason Isaacs
5. Takeshi Kitano
6. Emilio Echevarria
7. Song Kang-ho
8. Stephen Tobolowsky
9. Benicio Del Toro
10. Oliver Reed
LAST: Jeremy Irons

Matthew Montada said...

Just finished watching No Time To Die. Great film that serves as a solid conclusion to Daniel Craig’s run as James Bond.

Here is my Letterboxd review: https://boxd.it/2c9Xc3

Cast Ratings:
Daniel Craig - 4.5
Rami Malek - 2.5 (though i’m still conflicted about what score i should give him)
Lea Seydoux - 4
Lashana Lynch - 3.5
Ben Whishaw - 3.5
Naomie Harris - 2.5
Jeffrey Wright - 3
Christoph Waltz - 2.5
Ralph Fiennes - 3.5
Billy Magnussen - 2
Ana De Armas - 3.5
David Dencik - 1
Rory Kinnear - 2.5

Anonymous said...

Louis, is there a chance you could re-consider and re-review Gene Hackman in Night Moves. I believe his performance gets better with each viewing.

RatedRStar said...

Daniel Craig - 4.5
Rami Malek - 2
Lea Seydoux - 3.5
Lashana Lynch - 3
Ben Whishaw - 3.5
Naomie Harris - 2.5
Jeffrey Wright - 3
Christoph Waltz - 2.5
Ralph Fiennes - 3.5
Billy Magnussen - 1.5
Ana De Armas - 3.5
David Dencik - 1
Rory Kinnear - 2.5

Anonymous said...

Louis: Which directors would you say had the best 'runs' of making three or more consecutive great films? (like Coppola in the 70s, or PTA's entire career).

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Ogata - 4(This is more than anything about his presence as an actor that is singularly fascinating. There's just something about him that is compelling in itself. This is a pretty brief role inside the scheme of the film, and mainly he's just this strange, yet empathetic eccentric businessman. Each time he pops up it is a little treat in its right just because Ogata is by himself this fascinating eccentric performer. There's nothing quite expected about what he does, even as his character mainly does the expected graciousness. Because Ogata is doing it his own particular way though it stands out particularly well.)

Sutherland - 3.5(This is kind of the role that Sutherland found himself a little pigeonholed as in this period. This as the mentor of some variation of nefariousness. This particularly nefarious, and Sutherland is expectedly effective in this sense. As his speaking derogatorily towards his grandson is particularly pointed thanks to Sutherland's presence. Mainly though his character is there to be this underlying demon to the whole thing, and we don't explore him past a certain point. Sutherland is good within that purpose however.)

Bryan:

I covered Connelly and Kitt last post.

Wayans - 3.5(Again as a prop thought he brought a bit more humanity to the character in just his reactions managed to create some bit of genuine sympathy within Aronofsky's obnoxious tendencies.)

Warburton - 4(The funniest part of the film as his delivery is consistently hilarious by having kind of the henchmen presence in terms of his voice, but saying every line with an unexpected straight sort of silliness, that really also brilliantly defined his work in Seinfeld as well. It is mainly that again, but works so well, and sells every hilarious line he gets just beautifully.)

Luke:

Mikkelsen - 3.5(Not enough of his throughout, though his presence is welcome as usual. This time with kind of the wild card energy you'd want. This with an excellent intensity within his work, while conveying a certain friendliness within his dangerous qualities. Wish he got more of a focus however.)

Reilly - 3.5(The best performance in the film, as he does average Joe sailor in a moving and sympathetic way as to be expected from him. He just delivers everything really straight, but so elegantly so in being realistic and moving in that sense.)

Hawkes - 3.5(Always surprised it took him so long to break out, and sad that has honestly kind of regressed on him, as any of his early work is always strong. This one is no different from the rest and there is a strict honesty to his performance as just this average guy trying to find a little bit of anything before his likely demise.)

Louis Morgan said...

Stormare & Morse - 3.5(I mean a brilliant bit of casting this as Morse's sad eyes make you predict an empathy, while Stormare's naturally intimidating presence makes you think creep. When it is in fact the reverse, both work quite brilliantly as Morse is this particularly uneasy form of despicable, while Stormare ends up being this unrepentant bright spot. His performance bringing this simple loving quality in the end, and showing that even in his early scenes, Stormare was just showing a simple guy trying to express his love best as he could.)

Tim:

You Can Count On Me's screenplay suggests that death might be a bit of a crutch to Longergan as it seems to be his key motivator for almost everything that defines his characters. Here I think his screenplay frankly is very messy, this as the sister's whole self-destructive behavior of having affairs is pretty poorly defined and covered by a single sentence that is pretty weak. The actual relationships limited by really having basically a cartoon character as one of the men, and the other one just barely exists. The brother's faithlessness is equally poorly realized. What does work in the screenplay though is the family relationship that I actually wish was more so what the film focused upon, as there is a natural realization of their dynamic defined by a mutual trauma. It gets a bit obscured though by Longergan as someone who I definitely think can't kill his darlings. Like Manchester for me, I think there's more promise than there is realization, and part of that is the over expansive nature of his work that gets unwieldy for him.

8000's:

Dead End is low key great work by Toland, this as he, along with Wyler, create really a three dimensional quality within the limited space of the film. There is a depth of view in his framing and composition of shots, that makes it feel a lot less set like than other comparable play films of the period. Toland's lighting equally supports a more dynamic environment than enlivens the limitations of the piece's setting.

Honestly outside of Laughton's performance, probably the most emotion from this adaptation comes from Toland's work. Take just the candles scene, as there is so much in Toland's lighting that creates the sense of spiritual awakening/redemption. And as much as the film itself I think limits the epic nature of the piece too often, Toland does his best to make up for it whenever he gets a chance. There's just an extra dynamic power to the work whenever he can create more depth and beauty.

There are some real weird random cinematography snubs in the 40's, like Cardiff's for The Red Shoes, which literally makes no sense.

Luke:

I'll be watching it tonight.

Anonymous:

No, but gladly will when I can see it.

Anonymous:

1. Joe Pesci (At least that's how he'd like us to see it)
2. Burl Ives
3. Tom Waits
4. Cher
5. David Bowie
6. Bjork
7. Courtney Love
8. Mick Jagger
9. Dwight Yoakam
10. Queen Latifah


Anonymous:

Those two of course.

Damien Chazelle (Whiplash to First Man)
Kurosawa (Yojimbo to High and Low, Dersu Uzala to Ran)
Scorsese (Wolf to The Irishman)
Hitchcock (Saboteur to Lifeboat, Vertigo to Psycho)
Billy Wilder (Sunset Boulevard to Stalag 17)
David Lean (The Bridge on the River Kwai to Ryan's Daughter)
Chaplin (City Lights to The Great Dictator)
Carol Reed (Odd Man Out to The Third Man)
Peter Jackson (LOTR)
Masaki Kobayashi (The Human Conidition, maybe to Harakiri however I need to see The Inheritance)
Tarantino (Pulp Fiction to Kill Bill Vol 2.)
Sergio Leone (Fistful to Once Upon a Time in the West)
Ridley Scott (The Duellists to Blade Runner)
David Cronenberg (Videodrome to Dead Ringers)

To name a few.