Tuesday 31 August 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1964: David Tomlinson in Mary Poppins

David Tomlinson did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Mr. George W. Banks in Mary Poppins. 

Having re-watched Mary Poppins after many years, I can safely say it's not quite my film, though not for lack of trying, nor true lack of enjoyment on my part. There's much to admire, though it is not a film I love as so many seem to. 
 
Mary Poppins is largely about character having fun, with some live lesson intertwined there somewhere, but mostly having fun. This as much of the characters are operatically perfect in every way, well Mary that is, though Bert the Chimney seems just as altruistic, despite clearly being a man pretending to be cockney for some reason, or even the Banks children who seemingly just want to have harmless fun despite their run through of many nannies. The most dynamic character actually is Tomlinson's Mr. Banks, who Mary really is there for after all. This as the man more concerned with his job as an aptly named banker than spending time with his children. Now it has to be said Tomlinson is a rather delightful performer. An Englishman who seemingly is a perfect kind of Englishman in every sense of being prim, proper, but also always a bit not quite comfortable with anything that isn't as he is. In the early scenes of the film Tomlinson finds the most wonderful balance in being comically enjoyable while hitting the appropriate manner as the seemingly stern father. Tomlinson belting his tunes about such with a severe consistency, that appropriately sets up his character, while also being entertaining in presenting the man's forthrightness. These balances though against meeting Mary and dealing with his "troublesome" children. Tomlinson's reaction of befuddlement at Mary's manner are especially well timed in creating the perfect setup for the man who is to learn something from her atypical and unexpected ways. 

Re-watching the scenes after so many years, Tomlinson's scenes are where the film comes most to life, and part of that is where we finds the film at its most entertaining but also its most mature. This particularly as he tries to take charge of his children again by having them invest a tuppence into his bank. Tomlinson's performance even in this scene is essential in it is combined with the befuddlement towards Mary's way, and some stern exception to them at times, however in that he doesn't overplay to point of antagonism, rather he plays it as ignorance. This even in speaking to his kids about investing it is with a sincere pride that Tomlinson underlies within every word as he suggests the plan to them. When things then go awry as the children want to give the money to an elderly bird lady to feed the birds rather than invest, somehow leading to a run on his bank, Tomlinson's performance again works best in more his sheer disbelief in the circumstances rather than even genuine anger at what has transpired. This despite the event leading him to be called by his bosses to answer for the event leading to a somber walk to the bank alone. This silent scene, other than the particularly haunting score, is the best scene in the film, and Tomlinson is essential in this. This of course his initial expression of a somber acceptance of his fate of probably being fired, but more so a brief reaction, that is the most powerful moment in the entire film. This reaction being as he stops at the steps where the bird lady say, and sees she is gone. Tomlinson in this singular moment creates entirely the sense of guilt, and empathy in the moment. A heartbreaking reaction that in itself earns his transition as you see such a potent reflection of the man's understanding that money isn't everything in the moment. It again is only few seconds long and it is a testament to his performance that the moment leaves as strong of an impression as it does. Tomlinson through wholly earns the following scene as he first silently is fired by his bosses, before clapping back at them via the fun nonsense Mary taught him. Tomlinson is amazing in the scene by just bringing so much joy and zest into every delivery. This as there isn't just fun being had, but this kind of sense of exhilaration of a man who has been hiding these feelings, however has been wanting to experience these feelings for some time. This transitioning to him fully embracing his family by fully having fun with them by flying a kite. Tomlinson's singing now no longer structure, but rather exuberance and filled with the experience. An overabundance of warmth being spread in every moment, and a real sense of the love Mr. Banks feels for every member of his family now. Mr. Banks and Tomlinson's realization of him is what takes the film beyond just a trifle, and delivery on this he does. This in creating the true person needing saving by Mary Poppins, and Tomlinson realizing this portrait of a man finding joy again, with such infectious energy, humor and heart.

66 comments:

BRAZINTERMA said...

Louis: About TOP 7 Production, well make three TOP 7 per day or per post.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your ratings and thoughts on the cast? Also what are your thoughts on the songs?

Tim said...

oh snap, definite 5 for me


your thoughts on this fims Screenplay and Direction?

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: how well do you think Johnny Depp would have done as Rick Dalton in a 2000's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

Robert MacFarlane said...

As someone who similarly isn't THAT huge on the film (too long, some songs really miss the mark), he's a very easy fiver for me.

Matt Mustin said...

Haven't seen this movie in probably like 20 years, so I have zero memory of him at all. I remember the big songs, Julie Andrews and Dick van Dyke. I'll watch it again soon.

Matt Mustin said...

Also, why is "Chim-Chim Che-ree" the song that won the Oscar, is it just because it's the one that stuck in their heads most?

Calvin Law said...

Fantastic performance, and I do love the film myself, honestly probably the biggest fan of it on here.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

I love Mary Poppins so much. It just gives me so much joy, but it still doesn't rank among my Top 5 Disney movies.

8000S said...

Louis: I'm not sure you have given thoughts on them already, but if not, your thoughts on these scenes from It's a Wonderful Life:

"The cemetery scene"
George visits his mother in Pottersville
George finds Mary in Pottersville

One theory I always liked about the idea of Mary being unmarried is because George is the only one for her.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What's your rating for Andrews now and where would you rank her.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Has anyone listened to the new CHVRCHES album? It feels like something that would appeal to cinephiles. All the songs take horror movie imagery. Every song feels like it would fit perfectly as the end credits of something. For example, this one could easily be for Promising Young Woman:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ns3sZw88Lk

Added bonus: John Carpenter himself did a remix of that song.

Louis Morgan said...

Braznterma:

1931:

1. Frankenstein
2. M
3. A Nous La Liberte
4. City Lights
5. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
6. Dracula
7. Tabu

1934:

1. Les Miserables
2. Cleopatra
3. Babes in Toyland
4. The Black Cat
5. The Count of Monte Cristo
6. The Merry Widow
7. The Man Who Knew Too Much

1937:

1. Lost Horizon
2. Grand Illusion
3. The Prisoner of Zenda
4. Hurricane
5. Pepe Le Moko
6. Captains Courageous
7. Knight Without Armour

Anonymous:

Andrews - 4.5(This is the performance that defined her for a reason and I would say is the best and most fitting iteration of it. This in embodying sweetness with such ease, but here's the trick here I think. She actually is pretty blunt and harsh in her manner as Mary at times. There is a directness that I think would've been seeming rather cold if it were not for Andrews herself who has a natural warmth, grace and well wholesomeness (despite Blake Edwards's most fervent attempts) that can't be separated from her. This creating the perfect tone for Mary as a character. This though with her final scene where she sprinkles in the lightest of pathos, but naturally implemented into her character. Splendid work to be sure and I do understand the adoration for her here.)

Dyke - (I mean his accent at this point is perhaps the most famous thing about the film in some way for its infamous place as the worst ever. And well that is true his earnestness does serve the role otherwise. This additionally he does deliver on the note of doddering as his other character. Is his performance distracting in a certain sense, yes in that I think a more fitting casting would've actually only aided the film, but I do think Dyke's input is more beneficial than detrimental at any rate.)

Wynn - 3.5(Always in for a big helping of joyfulness from Wynn as a one scene wonder and far more able than Streep in that regard, though his scene could be cut as easily. Wynn though is just a joy as per usual.)

Johns - 3(Under served within the scheme of the film though I do like everything she does, she is unfortunately such a consistent afterthought within the process of the film.)

Louis Morgan said...

All the songs...well for starters here is my ranking (I actually overall prefer the Sherman Brothers' underscore to the lyrics, though there are some clever lyrics to be sure.):

1. Let's Go Fly A Kite
2. Feed the Birds
3. A Spoonful of Sugar
4. Jolly Holiday
5. Chim Chim Cher-ee/Pavement Artist
6. Stay Awake
7. A Man Has Dreams/The Life I Lead/A British Bank
8. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
9. Fidelity Fiduciary Bank
10. Sister Suffragette
11. I love to Laugh
12. Step in Time
13. The Perfect Nanny

Tim:

The screenplay really has the major thing within the character of Mr. Banks's transformation though even that I think is more so sold by the direction and performance than the script. The script itself really is just a series of set pieces without too much rhyme or reason in the progress, there's some but not a lot. The screenplay really might as well be a loose outline in so many ways and there are things left on the table, like the whole character of the mother for example. It kind of serves its purpose, but doesn't go much further than that.

Now Robert Stevenson's direction, thinking about it at first I thought it fit right into the certain Disney mold of the time, if at a grander scale, then looking into his filmography, he defined the mold in many ways in that exact tone. This mostly pleasant, humorous and mostly joyful. At his best though is when he perhaps alludes a little more to his roots like Jane Eyre. These being some the darker moments where Stevenson's voice feels clearer. Don't get me wrong his straightforward scenes are well mounted to be sure, particularly in terms of handling the then state of the art visual effects, though paced a little slowly though as per the musical pacing of the time honestly. But when he gets to go darker, like Mr. Banks's long walk, that is when he thrives, and I will say I wish there was a bit more of that style of his. The fact that it is there though still lets his vision thrive a bit within the more I think overtly Disney style, which again I think Stevenson helped to define anyways, but again, like Disney's work as well, when there's that tinge of darkness the joy hits harder. That dynamic is there, powerfully so, but I think there could've been just a bit more.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

I think probably just due to the grandness of the production number associated with it. They also didn't multi nominate songs then, I'd say it probably would've taken more spots in the 90's way of doing best song for example.

Luke:

Leave re-rankings to results.

8000's:

The Cemetery Scene and George visiting his mother is why Stewart contends for giving one of my all time favorite performances and being one of my favorite actors. This as Stewart is so haunting in his defiance to the idea of his brother dying, fighting against the idea even, against Travers who, again why he's an easy 5 for me, is haunting in his kindly way of so bluntly stating harsh truths, that are for the divine purpose of showing George the truth that his life was worthwhile. His scene with his mother is why anyone thinking Brando invented intensity is dead wrong. Stewart is amazing in the moment with Bondi as his confusion is so genuine and powerful in asking his mom to understand him, as he seems so wholly lost. That final expression as he leaves is just amazing in showing a man who is broken in that moment to see everything he knew is gone. Just writing about it now is giving me chills honestly, as I love the scene so much.

Now the last scene is my only criticism in the entire film, minor it's one of my favorite films of all time, and I think it is one of the greatest without hesitation. This just I think they overdo Mary's librarian getup just a bit. Having said that. I don't mind the idea, as the idea that indeed George was the only one for her being the tragedy, not that she never got married. Stewart's performance again though is what truly sells it, in seeming the mad man, just by so desperately trying to hold onto his old reality, and hitting that breaking point so beautifully.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Early 2000's I could definitely see it from him, as frankly he had a similar energy as DiCaprio brought to the part at that time.

Matt Mustin said...

Watching It's A Wonderful Life for the first time, for me, the scene that took Stewart's performance from already being amazing to the next step of being maybe the greatest of all time is when he breaks down in front of his family. Starting with just the way he comes in the door, brushing the snow off.

Robert MacFarlane said...

For me it’s Stewart praying in the bar.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: I mean, sure. I could have easily picked any scene, really.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your cast and director for a modern adaptation of Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra? Always considered its lack of adaptations relative to Julius Caesar kind of puzzling, as Cleopatra is one of Shakespeare's strongest female characters.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

Oh, another scene of greatness (I mean there are so many hence why it's a goat performance). Want to a highlight a little moment there that is rarely spoken of when he is holding his son, and just breaking down, it feels so raw and real in that moment, a type of moment that actually isn't too often depicted yet speaks to such reality, that being when there is something seriously wrong with you in a moment, while everyone around you is just having a normal day.

Anonymous said...

Who do you think would have been the ideal choice for Fantine in terms of vocals and acting?

8000S said...

Louis: I mean, people tend to exaggerate anything regarding Brando and that realism in movies started to be a thing in the 50's. The Best Years of Our Lives came out in 1946 and masterfully told a very realistic story that WW2 vets could relate to.

Hell, George Bailey is such a realistic character, you can easily relate to him in many ways.

Calvin Law said...

Really dug Shang-Chi, not flawless, falls into some of the classic MCU traps with the third act and their origin stories, but lots of fun, real vibrancy to the action sequences and blend of Chinese cultures, and the central heart of the story is really affecting.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the cast?

8000S said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Douglas in The Fury.

Also, how high are the chances of Peck being upgraded to a 4,5 in The Omen?

Luke Higham said...

8000S: It's not likely especially with the reservation about his acting in the scene before the beheading.

Calvin Law said...

Matthew:

Liu: 3.5/4
Awkwafina: 3.5
Zhang: 3.5
Chen: 3.5
Munteanu: 3
Wong: 3
Yeoh: 3.5
SPOILER: 3.5
Leung: 5

Sean Ingram said...

Louis: Can I get your updated "top 10 acting performances in Stephen King adaptations" ranking?? You gave your list back in 2015, and since then a lot has changed, including Robbins winning overall for 1994 back in November 2020. So I am kinda interested.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: Glad to hear that Tony Leung delivers another masterful performance. Such an amazing actor! I plan on watching it on Saturday hopefully.

Tim said...

I saw Barking Dogs Never Bite today. It's really not the best movie Bong has made, but still recommendable nontheless, his best attributes as a storyteller are already apparent there. It's only that Wikipedia calls it a comedy, and i just didn't find it that funny honestly.

Lee: 4.5
Bae: 4
Kim: 3.5
Byun: 3.5 (he had absolutely the best scene, but not a lot to do otherwise)

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

It is strange, and given the success of Julius Caesar I'm surprised no one tried to get it made as a sequel to that with Brando reprising his role.

Mark Antony: Ralph Fiennes
Octavius Caesar: Matthew MacFadyen
Sextus: Richard Armitage
Enobarbus: Gerard Butler

And not sure on Cleopatra as again needs quite the heft to her presence, and there doesn't seem an obvious choice to me.

Anonymous:

Probably Emily Blunt.

8000's:

Pretty sure I covered that when I revisited 78.

Perfectionist:

1. Kathy Bates - Misery
2. Sissy Spacek - Carrie
3. Tim Robbins - The Shawshank Redemption
4. Christopher Walken - The Dead Zone
5. James Caan - Misery
6. James Whitmore - The Shawshank Redemption
7. Kathy Bates - Dolores Claiborne
8. Richard Dawson - The Running Man
9. Judy Parfitt - Dolores Claiborne
10. Carla Gugino - Gerald's Game

Sean Ingram said...

Flawless list!! SO glad to see Robbins being ranked very high on it. Always felt, his genius in the movie was very VERY underrated. Very easy to take for granted considering how subtle and mysterious yet immensely powerful his acting is in the movie. Just flawless in literally every scene and from every aspect. Also glad to see Spacek at number 2 in your updated rankings as well. Legendary performance. I found it really shocking when I saw that you didn't include her in your list back in 2015. I thought it was because you probably didn't like her performance, but I guess, you probably didn't just watch it enough then to give your proper thoughts. Great to see that you also hold that performance in high regards.

Louis Morgan said...

Perfectionist:

I had not seen Carrie at that time.

Sean Ingram said...

Now that you have watched Carrie, where do you rank Spacek's performance when it comes to top 10 female lead performances of 1976?? Hoping she wins...

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: She's #1 at the moment.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Since this is a Mary Poppins post and all, I'm curious, but what's everyone's Top 10 Disney movies?

I've Got...

1. Cinderella
2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
3. Sleeping Beauty
4. Beauty and the Beast
5. Alice in Wonderland
6. Bambi
7. Mary Poppins
8. Dumbo
9. Fantasia
10. Lady and the Tramp

20,000 Leagues just missed out.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I saw Barb and Star the other day. I felt like it was one big inside joke I wasn't in on. Dornan MVP really just for his musical number.

Michael McCarthy said...

I also saw Shang-Chi. Tony Leung is really good, as expected, and the CGI is above average. Other than that...it’s a marvel movie. If you like marvel movies because they’re marvel movies than you’ll like this marvel movie.

Tim said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: (excluding Pixar?)



1. Mary Poppins/Saving Mr Banks
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. Pirates of the Caribbean
4. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
5. Mulan
6. National Treasure (HAGGIS!)
7. Wreck-It Ralph
8. The Great Mouse Detective
9. Lion King
10. Cool Runnings

BRAZINTERMA said...

Louis: Tell your TOP 7 of 1935 and 1938 production.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the responses to The Power Of The Dog, Spencer and The Card Counter.

Luke Higham said...

and King Richard.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: The only thing that surprises me is The Card Counter getting good reviews, I thought the trailer for that was really poor, maybe Issac is a contender, or he is Ethan Hawke part 2.

Louis Morgan said...

Brazinterma:

1935:

1. Bride of Frankenstein
2. The Informer
3. A Tale of Two Cities
4. 39 Steps
5. David Copperfield
6. Captain Blood
7. Mad Love

1938:

1. Alexander Nevsky
2. The Adventures of Robin Hood
3. Marie Antoinette
4. Jezebel
5. Angels with Dirty Faces
6. Bringing Up Baby
7. The Human Beast

Luke:

The Power of the Dog - (Sounds like Cumberbatch will need to be embraced early on, not because he didn't get the reviews (he largely did it seems), but rather because the character is such a nasty piece of work, so he'll need the undeniable course in that regard, which it sounds like he could get. The film itself sounds like might not be the old academy's cup of tea, but given Parasite/Nomadland as the last two winners one must account for new taste, and it is easy enough to envision the welcome back to Campion as the film sound like a major return to form. Either way, I'm excited to see the film.)

Spencer - (Sounds like Stewart's the best shot for the film overall, and might have a very similar trajectory to Jackie, as the reviews are very similar (if maybe slightly more negative here). I mean I'm intrigued at the very least for her performance, and just to look at the film for its aesthetic.)

The Card Counter - (Well after that horribly shaky trailer, I'm glad it isn't that at the very least. Of course, personally I don't even love well received Schrader sometimes, however the acting is almost always worthwhile at least, so glad to see Isaac will have that potential after such a long drought. Oscar prospects wise, I don't really see it at the moment, beyond maybe another last minute Original Screenplay nod, given Hawke had one of the all time great critical runs and completely missed. Schrader also doesn't really cultivate good will for himself, so it will be tough. )

King Richard - (Uhh from my cursory glance it sounds like it is what the trailers suggested. So probably a good thing for Smith, though probably will be the film's only major player, as generally just a charming crowdpleaser type. Though that can occasionally flop like Battle of the Sexes that instantly lost all momentum from its poor box office after a strong festival debut, but we'll see. Either way, for me, hope it is a good crowdpleaser (as sometimes critics are very hard or very easy on such films.)

Anonymous said...

I think a young Glenda Jackson would have been the ideal Cleopatra. You can’t find an actress with a more commanding screen presence and she’d also be able to nail the complexities of the character as well.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Are you interested in Ray's Kapurush (The Coward)? It's his and Madhabi Mukherjee's final collaboration together.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And what did you think of the response to Dune.

Marcus said...

Louis: If you placed him in Supporting, where would Stan rank in the 2017 overall for I, Tonya?

Louis Morgan said...

I wish I could've loved Shang-Chi. I think there is much to have affection for, a performance and when it really embraces its Wuxia roots. The first and second act actions scenes I really liked. Like Black Widow it fell again into bigger does not mean better, though I did think this maintained a bit more emotion in the climax, again due to a performance more than anything though I think. I wish Marvel would let a climax be interpersonal, and smaller, because after awhile the third act felt endless, and the impact of it just got more and more diluted. Additionally the structure here is a bit wonky at times, too much exposition, and thematically I think needed to focus a bit more on the family dynamic. It is there, but I think so much more could've been explored particularly since someone was game, very game. Definite entertainment value still, but, eh, at this point Marvel's flaws are becoming kind of fundamental.

Liu - 3
Awkwafina - 3.5
Zhang - 2.5
Chen - 3.5
Munteanu - 2.5
Wong - 3
Yeoh - 3.5
? - 3.5

Tahmeed:

I'll be blunt, I'm basically interested in any Ray at this point.

Luke:

Put it in my veins. I'll admit even these days, the sweet spot for certain types of films can almost be mid 80's to early 90's in terms of consensus as that will often indicate the filmmaker took enough a risk to alienate some viewers, and truly invigorate others. Given my affection for Villeneuve's last few efforts (on a directing front in particular), glad it doesn't sound like he diluted himself, and is his adaptation. I was already all in, so this is only encouraging to me.

Marcus:

Probably #6.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: Ah, disappointed you didn't like it more, but I get what you mean about the third act. Glad we agree on most of the cast outside of Liu and Zhang though.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the direction and screenplay of The Sting.

Tim said...

Louis: do you think Peter Weller could have been a good Ed Crane in the 90s?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your (non-spoilery) thoughts on the Shang Chi cast?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What are your current Oscar predictions and your reasons why.

I think Dinklage is out of it since his film doesn't look as if it will have an overwhelming wave of approval for him to have a chance.

Calvin Law said...

I actually think Dinklage has a very strong chance.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I'd like to think he does but not having a previous nomination doesn't help in spite of how the film is received. And I predict it'll range between 60s to mid 70s.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Picture:

The Power of Dog
Soggy Bottom
House of Gucci
Belfast
King Richard
Nightmare Alley
West Side Story
Don't Look Up

I have no confidence in this lineup. Power of Dog got the reviews, even with hesitations of its awards prospects, they embraced PTA last time, so maybe again, It will be interesting to see how either of Scott's films do, but House of Gucci seems the more immediate sell at the moment. Belfast had strong reactions, and the kind of personal film that could thrive. Also could be a BAFTA favorite style. King Richard again is really there if Smith is making a run for it. Nightmare Alley I think could go either way in terms of embracing the film, however Del Toro's last two prestige efforts did well, so why not. West Side Story, because why not there needs to be something perfunctory. Don't Look Up seems less friendly than Vice or The Big Short, but the academy loves McKay (for whatever reason) and with DiCaprio behind him it is hard to second guess it until further notice even with the odd sounding plot. Have no idea on a winner.

Director:

Jane Campion - The Power of Dog (Winner)
Kenneth Branagh - Belfast
PTA - Soggy Bottom
Ridley Scott - House of Gucci
Adam McKay - Don't Look Up

Mckay = trash = nomination for some reason right now. Campion and Branagh return to form/welcome back seems a decent prospect. Again guessing they go for PTA again, though that could go either way. And Scott makes sense if his film is doing well, particularly if he potentially is having a banner year if both films do well.

Actress:

Lady Gaga - House of Gucci (Winner)
Kristen Stewart - Spencer
Jessica Chastain - The Eyes of Tammy Faye
Jodie Comer - The Last Duel
Jennifer Lawrence - Don't Look Up

From the trailer Gaga seems to have the role, Stewart has the reviews (even if the film might not be the academy's flavor), Chastain could finally get her welcome back with her transformative part, Comer's role looked very juicy from that trailer, and Lawrence hasn't been contention since she was nominated for Joy, so if the film is contention hard to believe she won't be.

Actor:

Will Smith - King Richard (Winner)
Benedict Cumberbatch - The Power of the Dog
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth
Leonardo DiCaprio - Don't Look Up
Bradley Cooper - Nightmare Alley

Going with Smith for the moment if his film does decently he could win even if the critics go for Isaac or Cumberbatch. Cumberbatch though seems a very strong prospect and may have that BAFTA win already. I'm not sure how Macbeth is going to do (The academy really doesn't love Shakespeare all that much actually and they'll pass on the Coens), however regardless of how the film does Washington seems very likely based on his track record. If his film is doing anything, don't doubt DiCaprio. Cooper is almost in the same boat, without the win, and if Nightmare Alley is a thing I'd be truly gobsmacked if Cooper isn't as it is an incredibly juicy role.

Louis Morgan said...

Supporting Actress:

Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog (Winner)
Cate Blanchett - Nightmare Alley
Ann Dowd - Mass
Ariana DeBose - West Side Story
Frances McDormand - Macbeth

Dunst has the reviews to at least probably get that welcome to the club nomination. Blanchett has an AMAZING role for her, so I'd be surprised if she misses if her film is a thing. It will be interesting to see how Mass does, but I could see Dowd getting in at the very least. For DeBose, if West Side Story is a thing, surely the original Oscar winning role has a good chance. Lady Macbeth is a supporting role, so that's where I'm putting McDormand, who like Washington, hard to doubt at the moment if she delivers at least.

Supporting Actor:

Jason Isaacs - Mass (Winner)
Jared Leto - House of Gucci
Kodi Smit-McPhee - The Power of the Dog
Stand out supporting actor - Don't Look Up
Adam Driver - The Last Duel

Have no idea about the winner actually but Isaacs got the reviews so sure. As much as many were rolling their eyes at Leto in that trailer, if its a player, they love him, especially given how well he did for The Little Things and how transformative of a role it appears. Smit-McPhee I believe got the stand out supporting actor reviews not Plemons, so him then. DiCaprio always gets his supporting actors in, so whoever it is, it is hard to bet against. Went back and forth with a few in fifth, however if Comer is theoretically a thing, how about Driver in a theoretical banner year. His Gucci role seems to subdued to crack the lead actor lineup, but here he's playing the major villain, who looks more complex than expected, so I could see them embracing him here.

8000's:

I feel I've given those somewhere.

Tim:

Most definitely, as his Naked Lunch performance is very much in that vein.

Anonymous:

Liu - (This being my only exposure to him, I'll say he does have a likable energy, but didn't quite feel he delivered on a truly magnetic leading turn here. Additionally there were a few comic beats and actually some of the emotional where his performance felt a touch awkward. There are good moments of both, particularly emotional towards the end, but felt there was an inconsistency in his performance. I was hoping far more that this would be definitively star making quality, but didn't feel he hit that. Not bad, but did feel he was more overshadowed than he should've been.)

Awkwafina - (Doing her comic supporting role routine, and once again, I like her doing that, so I liked her once again. Also interestingly she has some repeat of thematic ideas of her Farewell performance, if lighter, but thought she revisited those effectively, even if less intensely.)

Zhang - (Eh, thought her performance was honestly kind of dull. In particularly felt the chemistry between her and Ziu was lacking, and one major emotional beat just never came to life for me. I think a major reason for that was Zhang's performance never really came to life for me either.)

Chen & Yeoh - (Both fulfill similar roles as the mother or motherly mentor styled roles. Yeoh's performance is expectedly strong in that sense, and though she is given way too much exposition to deliver, she delivers it well. Chen equally brings the right sort of combination of a gravitas and warmth that is appropriately impactful.)

Munteanu - (A bit disappointing after his impressive work in Creed II. Mostly just there for muscle, but his two major comic moments out of that fell flat in his delivery for me.)

Wong - (Always good to see him, albeit briefly.)

Calvin Law said...

My feelings towards Liu as a lead are similar to Hemsworth in the first Thor, or Evans in the first Captain America; bit rusty around the edges and hasn't quite found his niche yet, but there's potential, and given that it's his first notable film role of any kind I think he'll find a way to run with the role at some point.

Calvin Law said...

Speaking of Wong, Louis, have you had a chance to see Nine Days? I know the answer's most likely not because I've heard the cinema release for it has been REALLY limited.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I would fully agree with the Hemsworth/Evans comparison, and definitely could see him growing in the role.

I have not been able to.

Calvin Law said...

I’m feeling that Sorrentino and The Hand of God will be bigger players than people expect. I’m also predicting a Troy Kotsur nod but that’s wishful thinking mostly.

Bryan L. said...

Calvin: I could actually see Sorrentino landing a Best Director nod. He’s already on the Academy’s radar, with The Great Beauty winning Best Foreign Language film back in 2013. Also, it just seems like the type of Vinterberg/Pawlikowski nod they like to make sometimes.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your ranking for the Best Foreign Language Film winners of the 2010s.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I mean it got good reviews but it didn't get Parasite good reviews. A foreign language feature still is a tough road with the academy, as even Parasite struggled in parts. It doesn't sound like a critical sweeper, so I'd be surprised if it does more than International Film and an outside chance in director(a la Vinterberg) at this venture.

Bryan:

1. Parasite
2. A Separation
3. Ida
4. The Salesman
5. Amour
6. Roma
7. In A Better World
8. A Fantastic Woman
9. The Great Beauty
10. Son of Saul

Note: Another Round would be #2 if included.