Tuesday 3 August 2021

Alternate Best Actor 1964: Ivan Dixon in Nothing But a Man

Ivan Dixon did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Duff Anderson in Nothing But a Man. 

Nothing But a Man is a remarkable film, particularly due to the era in which it was made, following an African American railroad workers romance with a school teacher. 
 
The film is notable as a dramatic film with a dominantly African American cast, but also as an American film at the time with a Neo-realist style film-making. The brief synopsis above might give the wrong idea that it is a traditional romance, which is not the case. It rather is interested very much life as is, and in this sense following two people coming together in a very vivid and realistic portrayal of a couple in the south. Ivan Dixon's performance is emblematic of the film's intention and approach. Ivan Dixon delivers a very naturalistic turn here really fittingly as nothing but a man I suppose. This as what we get in his performance in an authenticity in place. When we see him working the job of the day and hanging with his friends. It just feels like you too are hanging out with the men just by the natural way they interact and the sense of the day's work. Dixon's portrayal isn't to distinguish Duff from beyond himself, he's indeed just one of the guys and you get a sense of the man, his calm demeanor and really his effort in work as his effort in life. Dixon does make Duff innately likable, but not trying to throw an aggressive charm, just a low key earnest manner in the man. 

We see this further with his romance with a school teacher, and preacher's daughter, Josie Dawson (Abbey Lincoln). Dixon doesn't suddenly become Cary Grant, but he effectively distinguishes the man among his co-workers and the woman he is trying to romance. This though just as a man seemingly all the more earnest in his sentiment towards her. The two really have a low key but moving chemistry with one another. It isn't earth shattering but rather just works in the sense of authentic affection in their interactions with one another. This even within the moments of the relationship being challenged both actively by racist intruders and Josie's own daughter who questions Duff's nature. Dixon in the intruder scene is great by avoiding melodrama and instead just bluntly delivering the man's defense as he asks the men to leave. He doesn't posture rather showing a strict and quiet intensity in the moment. With her father the man illuminates his views, which don't involve a lot of religion, which again Dixon delivers so well by not putting too much on it. He rather suggests a man convinced in his belief not as a firebrand but rather as a man sure of himself. 

Dixon's performance works in a way through the consistency of the authenticity in his work. The consistency not being that he doesn't have changes, but rather whatever Duff is going through it feels honest to the moment. The scene of him going to see his son from another relationship, Dixon again limits how much he puts on it, however in his eyes there is the degree of exasperation of a failed relationship of the past. When speaks towards his fellow workers about sticking together, not really as union rep rather just a man hoping a best for all, Dixon's delivery keeps to that sincerity. There is a passion in his performance, but quiet and reserved fitting to the man Duff is. Dixon's work never feels too much or too little. In the latter half of the film as Duff falls into troubles due to his basically accidental union talk, he struggles to find a decent job afterwards. Dixon's work again conveys the state of the man taking the struggle just in the subtle wear within his expression. His moment of speaking against his father-in-law's words, Dixon again speaks straight and to the point. We see the same when he is facing a group of racists in his eventual job. Dixon naturally showing the greater frustrations of the man, however still keeping it pent within the man's state of trying to just live his life. This boiling over in moments of lashing out at Josie. Difficult scenes really however Dixon pulls them off well in making these rather brutal moments these terrible side effect of man attacking the thing he loves the most mainly because its the only thing he can lash against without consequences. Dixon finds the truth in that moment just as he does consistently through this film. His work existing again as a man going through a normal, though not easy, life, and punctuating each of these moments with the need authenticity. It's not showy work, but it's good work.

107 comments:

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Glad you really liked him. I was genuinely surprised by how much I liked the film, it really should be better remembered than it is.

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast, your thoughts on the ending and Roemer's direction?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Also, as for predictions, having seen everyone except Price:

1. Smoktunovsky
2. Urzi
3. Okada
4. Dixon
5. Price

Michael Patison said...

I'll change slightly

1. Smoktunovsky
2. Urzi
3. Dixon
4. Okada
5. Price

Luke Higham said...

1. Smoktunovsky
2. Urzi
3. Okada
4. Dixon
5. Price

Anonymous said...

Louis: your choice of director and cast for an 80’s and 90’s version of Green Knight?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Watched Seven Days in May for the first time, and it's fair to say that Smoktunovsky and March are very easily my wins in Lead and Supporting for 1964.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: Nobody's taking the top supporting spot from George C. Scott for me. I love that performance more every time I see it.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Any plans to also watch Hamlet at Elsinore starring Christopher Plummer from this year?

Marcus said...

Louis: Is Burton's version of Hamlet, where there was a theatrical release of a filmed version of the play also eligible for your acting overalls this year.

Matt Mustin said...

Marcus: Did it a get a theatrical release?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed: March is so fucking great in that movie.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: In terms of years we've covered twice now, will you take any performance suggestions as a backlog? I've got two for 2001 Supporting Actor that I regret not seeing in time to request (well, one I did see, I just forgot about it).

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
Tell us your ranks of 1964 nominees in each category:

Song
1. "Chim Chim Cher-ee" - Mary Poppins
2. "My Kind of Town" - Robin and the 7 Hoods
3. "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte" - Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
4. "Dear Heart" - Dear Heart
5. "Where Love Has Gone" - Where Love Has Gone

Score Adapted
1. A Hard Day's Night
2. Mary Poppins
3. The Unsinkable Molly Brown
4. Robin and the 7 Hoods
5. My Fair Lady

Score Original
1. The Pink Panther
2. Mary Poppins
3. Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
4. Becket
5. The Fall of the Roman Empire

Sound
1. Mary Poppins
2. Father Goose
3. The Unsinkable Molly Brown
4. My Fair Lady
5. Becket

Sound Effects
1. Goldfinger
2. The Lively Set

Editing
1. Mary Poppins
2. Father Goose
3. Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
4. Becket
5. My Fair Lady

Special Visual Effects
1. Mary Poppins
2. 7 Faces of Dr. Lao

Costume (B&W)
1. The Night of the Iguana
2. The Visit
3. Kisses for My President
4. Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
5. A House Is Not a Home

Costume (COLOR)
1. My Fair Lady
2. Becket
3. The Unsinkable Molly Brown
4. Mary Poppins
5. What a Way to Go!

Art Direction (B&W)
1. Seven Days in May
2. Zorba the Greek
3. Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
4. The Night of the Iguana
5. The Americanization of Emily

Art Direction (COLOR)
1. My Fair Lady
2. Mary Poppins
3. Becket
4. The Unsinkable Molly Brown
5. What a Way to Go!

Cinematography (B&W)
1. Zorba the Greek
2. The Night of the Iguana
3. Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte
4. Fate Is the Hunter
5. The Americanization of Emily

Cinematography (COLOR)
1. The Unsinkable Molly Brown
2. Cheyenne Autumn
3. Mary Poppins
4. My Fair Lady
5. Becket

Foreign Language Film
1. Woman in the Dunes (Japan)
2. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (France)
3. Raven's End (Sweden)
4. Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow (Italy)
5. Sallah Shabati (Israel)

Adapted Screenplay
1. Dr. Strangelove
2. Mary Poppins
3. Becket
4. Zorba the Greek
5. My Fair Lady

Original Screenplay
1. That Man from Rio
2. One Potato, Two Potato
3. The Organizer
4. A Hard Day's Night
5. Father Goose

Supporting Actress
1. Lila Kedrova
2. Edith Evans
3. Grayson Hall
4. Agnes Moorehead
5. Gladys Cooper

Supporting Actor
1. Peter Ustinov (My fans may he wins overall)
2. John Gielgud
3. Lee Tracy
4. Stanley Holloway
5. Edmond O'Brien

Lead Actress
1. Kim Stanley
2. Julie Andrews
3. Anne Bancroft
4. Debbie Reynolds
5. Sophia Loren

Lead Actor
1. Peter Sellers
2. Peter O'Toole
3. Anthony Quinn
4. Richard Burton
5. Rex Harrison

Director
1. Stanley Kubrick
2. Robert Stevenson
3. Michael Cacoyannis
4. George Cukor
5. Peter Glenville

Picture
1. Dr. Strangelove
2. Mary Poppins
3. Zorba the Greek
4. Becket
5. My Fair Lady

And what are your ranks?

Matt Mustin said...

Oh yeah, I agree about Dixon. 4.5 feels right for me, too.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

They really weren't kidding when they said Hamlet is probably the most filmed/staged play ever.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: Because there's so many different things you can do with it.

Calvin Law said...

And agreed completely on this performance and the film.

Going to stick with my initial predictions I think even though I'm definitely torn between Okada (just a heads up everyone, you can watch Woman in the Dunes on Youtube) and Urzi between 2 and 3, both performances are sitting very well with me.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Kotto - 3.5(Really a minor role but still made an impact with it. I really wish his character was bigger because he manages to make an impression with the little he has.)

Lincoln - 4(Luminous work that works particularly well in tandem with Dixon's work. This both in terms of their chemistry and the way he seems to carry the weight of the world in him, she walks above it. This not making her seem aloof, but rather just of a different perspective.)

Harris - 3.5(Liked that he didn't overplay his scenes. Showing effectively the strict manner of the father, but portraying a sense of the genuine concern in his suggestions of a loving father.)

Roemer's unfussy direction works particularly well for the material. This as a very direct approach with a naturalism within setting of certain moments particularly the use of music within certain scenes. He goes very much for that lived in quality. I think his scenes of dealing with racism are especially striking because he makes them so natural and non melodramatic, in turn making them all the more disturbing in a way due to that. It is easy to see how say a Stanley Kramer would've really played hard into those moments, yet Roemer makes them truly work by making them as natural as the romantic scenes, making them truly off-putting through the way they so naturally creep up on the characters.

The ending I thought was just simply beautiful note. A potent mixture of heartbreak and hope just in the simple embrace. I especially love how it is basically just a whisper between the two in the moment of admitting regret but also with an inspirational undertone.

March is indeed great there.

Anonymous:

1980's directed by Ridley Scott:

Gawain: Gabriel Byrne
Essel: Isabelle Rossellini
The Lord: Albert Finney
Mother: Joan Plowright
King Arthur: Nigel Davenport
The Green Knight: Tony Jay
Scavenger: Peter Firth

1990's directed by Mel Gibson:

Gawain: Johnny Depp
Essel: Kristin Scott Thomas
The Lord: Mel Gibson
Mother: Susannah York
King Arthur: Oliver Reed
The Green Knight: David Warner
Scavenger: David O'Hara

Marcus:

It got a Give Em Hell Harry style release, so technically yes.

Matt:

Yes, I'll make time for it, the Plummer/Shaw combo is too hard to resist.

Robert:

I'm certainly open to suggestions.

Anonymous said...

What were your favorite guest stars on Frasier?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Okay, so: Don't dismiss these when you hear them.

Alan Cumming in Josie and the Pussycats
Jon Lovitz in Rat Race

I know Psifonian can back me up on Lovitz, but in regards to Cumming, I think it's a comedic performance up your alley. Actually, Tom Hiddleston's Loki seems to be copying a lot of his mannerisms in it (and hair). Also, both movies are funnier than their Rotten Tomatoes scores suggest they are. Josie especially, since its mockery of product placement in every frame is consistently hysterical.

Matt Mustin said...

I fucking hate Rat Race.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Matt: Okay.

Matt Mustin said...

Smoktunovsky is one of the best Hamlets I've ever seen, and the film is probably my win for cinematography. I could also give Kozintsev director as well, but Kubrick is sort of undeniable.

Calvin Law said...

Matt: Wait till you see Teshigahara is all I can say.

David Jones said...

1. Smoktunovsky
2. Urzi
3. Okada
4. Dixon
5. Price

I hope Kubrick keeps his sole win.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Teshigahara's direction is magnificent. Ebert said that the sand photography there even surpasses that of Lawrence of Arabia, and I agree on that front entirely.

With that being said, I think Kubrick is a sure bet to win Director.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your rating and thoughts on Ava Gardner in Seven Days in May, and could Edmond O'Brien go up for it slightly?

Tim said...

1) Smoktunovsky
2) Urzi
3) Dixon
4) Okada
5) Price

Tim said...

your thoughts on the screenplay and direction of The Fisher King?

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this article regarding Mulholland Drive.

https://www.popmatters.com/moving-beyond-the-dream-theory-a-new-approach-to-mulholland-drive-2495428968.html

Anonymous said...

Louis: Do you think Roemer being an outsider to Hollywood played a part in how he portrayed the racial divide in this film? I don't know many other directors at the time who could have handled this material without turning it into some white savior tripe.

Marcus said...

Louis: Why do you think most of the Breaking Bad cast (except those involved in BCS and Paul in El Camino) have struggled to find roles which make use of their ability, i.e. Dean Norris and Anna Gunn.

Matt Mustin said...

Marcus: Dean Norris is typecast, simple as that. Can't explain Anna Gunn, although it perhaps has something to do with the toxic hate she got online for that character, which would be unfortunate if that's the case.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Marcus: When it comes to Cranston and Paul, scarcity of roles haven't been the problem for them. Cranston just seemed to forget that what made his performance in Breaking Bad work was the brilliant internalization he did, instead of just his louder moments.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: could John C. Reilly have played Javert in Les Miserables?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Lucas: I love the guy, but no. He's a deceptively versatile singer, just not in the way Javert needs. Also, he doesn't really have a presence that says "Authoritative Killjoy"

I actually could see him as a fun Thenardier.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: Oh, he'd be an amazing Thenardier.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well Harriet Sansom Harris and Bebe Neuwirth are givens I suppose.

Otherwise:

Rita Wilson
Mercedes Ruehl
Michael Keaton
Nathan Lane
Derek Jacobi

Robert:

Well Lovitz was the best part of that film for me, but...that isn't saying too much for me.

I'll certainly consider Cumming.

Tahmeed:

Gardner - 3.5(A limited love interest style role however I do think she is effective in creating a low key kind of chemistry with Douglas well sort of conveying her state with Lancaster's character as well. It's strong work in terms of creating that nuance even though there isn't too much of her.)

Yes, I will admit I probably penalized him to a degree that he's not March, who should've been nominated from the film, but he's good on his own.

Tim:

Interesting question as I'm usually asked about films I love. Screenplay wise it doesn't really cohere for me between the two stories of mutually attempting to find redemption mixed in with a whole bunch of weirdness, sometimes seemingly for the sake of it, sometimes earned in terms of Robin Williams's character basically trying to fend off his own demons. Still screenplay wise the parts often feel that way rather than wholly feeling as a piece. This as for me as the characters of the girlfriends are interacting with a different piece then the rest of it. It goes big, and for me it becomes to the point of unwieldy while not really fulfilling the main promise for me.

The direction I guess you take as Terry Gilliam's period of trying to go "Straight" and I think 12 Monkeys is a better representation of that. This as you get a mix of Gilliam, extremely 90's feeling 90's moments, especially those elements involved with Bridges as the shock jock, and such extremes between the moments of extreme violence and wacky comedy. Much like the script it is all over the place in terms of direction. The 90's stuff for me doesn't really work at all, but some of it does, like the most Gilliam thing in the demon that chases Williams's character. For me the direction and screenplay though both represent a lot of interesting ideas with potential, but don't entirely realize themselves.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I mean all viable theories to be sure and I do like the idea of doubles which Lynch is obviously fond of. The dream being reality and the same, rather a separation is also inherent right within the film with the Man Behind Winkies segment.

Anonymous:

Most definitely, also probably why the film also basically had to be discovered unfortunately.

Marcus:

It's actually interesting, the cast suggests the movie/tv divide still exists, just in terms of tv actors making the jump. Aaron Paul is doing just fine in terms of TV projects but hasn't been able to breakout into film, despite being in films. The same is true to an extent about Cranston despite his Oscar nomination, although it does need to be said he's doing more than fine as an actor overall, getting lead roles at all at his age, and his 2 Tony wins are nothing to sniff at.

As for the rest of the cast, oddly the typecast ones, Norris, Esposito, are doing better than most. While Gunn I can only guess she unfortunately just wasn't offered the role afterwards.

Really it is classic TV getting stuck without making that jump but also the unpredictable nature of the industry.

After all, who has the most successful film career from the series? Jesse Plemons. Why? Ummm, he's damned talented? But it still feels random, and maybe it's just because he was also the one who could most easily shed Breaking Bad expectations. Hard to say for sure, also helps that filmmakers just seem to love the guy...with good reason though.

Lucas:

Thenardier is easy to see, and I'll concur with Robert that innately he doesn't have the Javert presence.

Having said that, he is a baritone, though one doesn't immediately think of intensity as per the part, of say the perfect Javert Philip Quast. But I haven't seen him fail in such an attempt, and frankly give him the benefit of doubt given what we got with Crowe. This both in terms of singing and presence. The latter of I think there is the potential, tough as it may be, to work around his teddy bear demeanor, this as he actually did do that to an extent in The Sisters Brothers and to a greater extent in Gangs of New York. It isn't his basic setting, but I don't think he's incapable of it. It would have to be though a truly transformative turn a la Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast or Noah Taylor in Game of Thrones in a way in terms of someone doing the opposite of expectation and succeeding.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Paul's best non-Breaking Bad performance is in Bojack Horseman, although it'd suck if Jesse Pinkman was the only truly great performance he had in him.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: He was really, really good in Eye in the Sky.

Anonymous said...

What actresses, with limited careers, do you wish you could have seen more from?

Calvin Law said...

Really enjoyed The Suicide Squad, might hold off ratings just to avoid spoilers for now, though my favourites were Melchior, Dastmalchian and Cena. Kinnaman was actually pretty good too.

Michael Patison said...

Matt: Totally agree on Eye in the Sky. While he doesn't make a huge impact, he is decidedly un-Jesse Pinkman (which I think is a somewhat fair criticism of him) and his central scene is phenomenal.

Anna Gunn is really one that frustrates me. She's obviously terrific, and while she got some work after Breaking Bad ended (the American remake of Broadchurch comes to mind), she's just not had the opportunities. The cynical part of me wants to say it's because Hollywood doesn't like non-stars over 50, but I think the argument about her character being so toxic isn't necessarily far off the mark.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: what are your thoughts on Reese Witherspoon as an actress, and your retro directing choices for Justin Kurzel?

Louis Morgan said...

Also enjoyed The Suicide Squad and would concur with Calvin regarding the favorites among the cast...including liking Kinnaman for once.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Mia Kirshner and Elizabeth Hartman come to mind.

Lucas:

Regarding Witherspoon, I guess my opinion is below the common wisdom, though actually not too much lower. This as looking over her filmography for this question, I actually do like most of her performances, despite not really caring for her Oscar win and some performances here and there. I also don't really love any of her performances. She does have a definite style and confidence in her performances, usually this kind of strange mix actually style and naturalism that I guess sometimes just doesn't work for me, though sometimes it does. So it is fair to say I'm mixed.

I mean I've never 100% loved Kurzel's directing choices, so I'm not sure he'd by first choice for any retro choices, though here's a few that would probably suite him:

Wake in Fright
In Cold Blood
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these interviews with James Cagney and Walter Huston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlk1ogJiTao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26bHPqietmY

Anonymous said...

Do you think Julie Andrews would have fared better as Eliza?

If not, who would be your choice?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys! Your thoughts from the Cry Macho trailer. I really wanted Warner to campaign for Clint as best actor, unfortunately this season's the focus will be Will Smith.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I mean obvious studio puff pieces, but kind of interesting anyways even within that perspective.

Anonymous:

Well as much as she's more vocally accomplished, I actually don't entirely see her cockney being any more convincing. Maggie Smith to me would've been the ideal choice.

Shaggy:

Well Eastwood's films in the last 10 years have ranged from okay to bad, so I can't be too excited, particularly as it seems like we're going to get a repeat of Gran Torino (though I guess with maybe the opposite message?) ...right down to the bad acting amateur co-star. Though Eastwood himself looks solid as usual.

Matthew Montada said...

Louis: are you also going to hold off your ratings for The Suicide Squad like Calvin did to avoid spoilers until more people have seen it? I plan on watching it this weekend this weekend for sure. Really looking forward to it.

Anonymous said...

Your top 5 Geraldine Page and Simone Signoret performances?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Watching Anthony Adverse, and it's pretty dull so far. Please tell me it gets better.

Louis Morgan said...

Matthew:

Ask again on Sunday.

Anonymous:

Page:

1. The Trip to the Bountiful
2. Sweet Bird of Youth
3. Interiors
4. The Beguiled
5. The Pope of Greenwich Village

Signoret:

1. Les Diaboliques
2. Room At the Top
3. Army of Shadows
4. Ship of Fools
5. The Deadly Affair

Ruthiehenshallfan99:

It does not.

Anonymous said...

How would you rate the Glenda Jackson performances you've seen?

Anonymous said...

Also, your overall thoughts of her as an actress?

Anonymous said...

I meant rank and not rate,my bad

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RatedR Star: He deserved a much better movie. Wished it was just The Claude and Gale show, where the whole runtime was spent on those two, instead were go to Africa for some slave trading... Anyways....

Fredric March: 3/3.5
Olivia de Havilland: 3
Gale Sondergaard: 3.5
Claude Rains: 4
Akim Tamiroff: 2.5
Donald Woods: 2.5
Anita Louise: 2.5
Louis Hayward: 2

Anonymous said...

Why do you think Gwyneth Paltrow get so much hate as an actress?

I've honestly never got it, even though I do think she doesn't really challenge herself that much

Anonymous said...

Louis: Do you think if Pattinson was Oscar nominated for either Good Time or The Lighthouse, he wouldn't have faced so much scrutiny over his casting as Batman.

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: Cause she's not good.

Calvin Law said...

Nah Paltrow is a good actress when she gets good roles.

The hate is probably more due to her offscreen persona (which to be fair I don’t think is that bad, just annoying but easy enough to ignore).

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Has Signoret gone up to a 5 for Army Of Shadows.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Any chance of JGL going up for (500) Days of Summer?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Unpopular Oscar win/Off-screen persona. She also recently hasn't done particularly interesting unlike her earlier work which was far more remarkable in general.

Anonymous:

Refer back to my top five.

Jackson herself is a striking performer with a notable kind of ferocity that is innate in her work, even her most recent work. Although remarkable though is her ability to really convey warmth or vulnerability as well as intensity when needed. Her ability within comedy is as apparent as drama actually and has a grand range within her roles. It would be particularly wrong to view her even within the views of a certain kind of role, as she's distinguished herself across several types. Is she notable at striking and intense women in period pieces, certainly, but she can do far more than that.

Anonymous:

Most likely.

Tahmeed:

No.

Tim said...

Could Mel Gibson in Braveheart become a 5 or is he definite?

Anonymous said...

Tim: someone asked Louis that question earlier and Louis said he was a definite 4.5

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top ten Matthew Macfayden acting moments.

Robert MacFarlane said...

By the way, I liked The Suicide Squad myself. Melchoir and Elba were my favorites. Wouldn’t mind if a sequel is just about them teaming up as an anti-hero duo.

Also, gotta love that Gunn cast Capaldi specifically to reprise Malcolm Tucker for his big scene. “YANKEE FUCKING DOODLE DANDIES” will live rent free in my head for months.

Tim said...

could you rank the Original Screenplay lineups of the 2000s?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of The Suicide Squad?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Would you currently say that DC films are more interesting than Marvel shows/films.

Calvin Law said...

Rewatched TSS today and my new ratings would be:

Robbie - 3.5
Elba - 4
Cena - 4
Kinnaman - 4
Stallone - *perfection*
Davis - 3.5
Capaldi - 3.5 (agreed with Robert on his big scene)
Dastmalchian - 4
Melchior - 4.5

Honestly no real weak links in the cast, liked pretty much everyone.

Matthew Montada said...

I watched The Suicide Squad last night. Really good. Easily the best DCEU film and i plan on rewatching it soon. Here is my Letterboxd review:
https://boxd.it/23iRzn

As for my ratings for the cast:
Idris Elba - 3.5 (super close to a 4)
Margot Robbie - 3.5
John Cena - 4
Joel Kinnaman - 4
Sylvester Stallone - 3.5
Viola Davis - 3
Peter Capaldi - 3.5
David Dastmalchian - 4
Daniela Melchior - 4.5

Bryan L. said...

I feel like The Suicide Squad is also the Hollywood blockbuster that has best utilized Idris Elba to date.

Bryan L. said...

I also like how David Dastmalchians’ first film role was as one of the Joker’s henchmen in TDK, and now, he’s one of the highlights in TSS.

Matthew Montada said...

Louis: feel ready yet to give your ratings for the cast of The Suicide Squad yet?

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

1. "You're a scumbag Greg"
2. Discussing the menage a trois
3. Greg telling him about Shiv
4. Greg and his "breakup"
5. Eating Logan's chicken
6. "Fuck you Shiv"
7. Testimony
8. Explaining his curtness - Pride and Prejudice
9. Taking his win back
10. Boar on the floor

From Succession unless otherwise noted.

Tim:

2000:

1. Almost Famous
2. Gladiator
3. Billy Elliot
4. Erin Brockovich

2001:

1. The Royal Tenenbaums
2. Memento
3. Gosford Park
4. Amelie
5. Monster's Ball

2002:

1. Y Tu Mama Tambien
2. Talk to Her
3. Far From Heaven
4. Gangs of New York
5. My Big Fat Greek Wedding

2003:

1. Dirty Pretty Things
2. Finding Nemo
3. In America
4. The Barbarians Invasions
5. Lost in Translation

2004:

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. Hotel Rwanda
3. The Incredibles
4. The Aviator

2005:

1. Good Night, and Good Luck
2. Match Point
3. The Squid and the Whale
4. Syriana
5. Crash

2006:

1. Letters From Iwo Jima
2. Little Miss Sunshine
3. The Queen
4. Pan's Labyrinth
5. Babel

2007:

1. Ratatouille
2. Juno
3. Michael Clayton
4. The Savages

2008:

1. In Bruges
2. Frozen River
3. Milk
4. Wall-E
5. Happy Go Lucky

2009:

1. Inglorious Basterds
2. A Serious Man
3. The Messenger
4. The Hurt Locker
5. Up

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Warning semi-spoilers

Robbie - 3(This one is a bit of a conflict as I felt her character was more so the weak link than really her performance so to speak. I just felt cutting to her was the least interesting stuff and those scenes felt like studio mandated to include Harley. Now as studio mandated scenes they're relatively good, but feel disjointed from the rest of the cast still. I mean she's doing what she's doing as Quinn...but I don't know.)

Elba - 4(One the best film uses of him I've seen and I'm glad Gunn gave him some sillier moments that seemed to loosen his performance from being just straight badass. That part is good here, but what I liked most was his heartfelt moments with Melchior that wholly worked, and his comedic ones involving the rats along with his anti-chemistry with John Cena. It's a fun performance where he is the badass to be expected, but also kind of not.)

Cena - 4(Perfect casting as in many ways this is in his wheelhouse and in that it is great use of his aggressively direct style of delivery along with his particular steadfastness for the lack of a better word. He's great in playing this nearly one note, and is downright hilarious particularly I have to mention his delivery of "unless what they're showing off is dope as fuck". I have to give additional credit though in the later moments where a little more is asked of him I felt he definitely delivered there as well.)

Kinnaman - 3.5(Finally a performance of his works and the good version of his turn in the original film. This as his responses bring the right kind of exasperation as the straight man, but also the right kind of straight man conviction in contrast to the less mission oriented nature of the crew.)

Stallone - (I mean hard to rate but he is exactly as he should be.)

Davis - 3.5(I mean she was actually good in the original film and she brings the same intensity. I actually wish we had gotten a bit more humor from her seriousness, we got a little which I liked though. Mostly though we get her trademark intensity which totally works for the role.)

Capaldi - 3.5(I mean to echo the same thoughts great use of him even within the relative limits of the role. Just hilarious in his bit though while also effortlessly sending off the exposition given to him.)

Dastmalchian - 4(Glad they found this great use of his off-beat energy and let him be a major role at that. Dastmalchian is within his type of that insular Brad Dourif style intensity. Works wonderfully here particularly though in the way he spreads it around naturally between moments of humor, self-loathing and even jubilation.)

Melchior - 4.5(Just absolutely wonderful, and what a breakout to be sure. Melchior just runs with the part. This in creating just for the lack of a better word, adorable energy within the role as this basically accidental villain who has found herself in that spot. Finding all the right moments of humor in her earnest manner, particularly in her interactions with King Shark. She manages though to go further in her moments Elba in creating an authentic emotion in creating the state of her character and her past that is this effortless combination of warmth and roughness. This in naturally seguing into genuinely emotional moments that just fantastic. Also loved the moments within the action where she managed to really convey a sense of the danger by showing the sort of dogged amateur within the situation.)

Didn't dislike anyone of the cast, and the rest would wave from 2.5 to 3, as either fine if unremarkable in a bit part or enjoyable in a bit comic beat.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: How do you think Elba would’ve fared as Deadshot in the first film instead of Will Smith?

Also, your 1980s and 1990s cast/director for The Suicide Squad.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Any further thoughts on The Green Knight and thoughts on the cast.

And for confirmation, is Simone Signoret a five for Army Of Shadows.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Please.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Yes, even though their track record is far more inconsistent still.

Bryan:

Elba would've been better there and less of a sore thumb, but that film is a trash fire so it wouldn't have mattered for the overall product.

The Suicide Squad 1980's directed by John McTiernan:

Harley Quinn: Catherine O'Hara
Bloodsport: James Coburn
Peacemaker: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Rick Flag: Scott Glenn
King Shark: Andre the Giant
Amanda Waller: Eartha Kitt
The Thinker: Charles Gray
Polka Dot Man: Larry Hankin
Ratcatcher 2: Elizabeth Pena

The Suicide Squad 1990's directed by James Cameron:

Harley Quinn: Michelle Pfeiffer
Bloodsport: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Peacemaker: Kurt Russell
Rick Flag: Michael Biehn
King Shark: Charlton Heston
Amanda Waller: Alfre Woodard
The Thinker: Nicol Williamson
Polka Dot Man: Bill Paxton
Ratcatcher 2: Maria de Medeiros

Glenn said...

Louis, thoughts on James Gunn's direction..

Bryan L. said...

Louis: ^Thoughts on the screenplay as well?

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on the ending of Poetry?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Given more than a few still haven't seen it I'll give the only one who doesn't have I feel kind of a spoiler context to their work.

Harris - (I really liked his performance here in that I found he managed to create this state where you really felt his Arthur, as a leader, a man who has been through a lot, and warm man, all within a role that is seemingly functional. Harris delivers this world weary edge to his performance of a man who has been through much, but with this innate goodness and wisdom about him. I love how fatherly he was here, while being rather quiet in that quality while still wholly evoking it.)

No, I'm done with the minutia of ratings. The time to ask, and only time to ask, is when I'm giving out rankings at the end of a revised year.

Glenn & Bryan:

Give a little more time to the film.

I'd prefer to do that when I can actual see a copy of it.

Anonymous:

A striking ending that is ambiguous in nature (of course for Lee) and fittingly evokes memory in a film about the loss of memory. This memory though a painful one though articulated beautifully fittingly to poetry itself that often speaks to great pains through eloquence and poignancy.

Matt Mustin said...

You know, between specifically The Caretaker and Jaws, one thing is certain about Robert Shaw. He was AMAZING at monologues.

8000S said...

Louis: Which roles do you think Douglas would have been great in if he had picked better projects after Seven Days in May? I think he would have been great as Max Schumacher or Howard Beale in Network.

Calvin Law said...

Kind of think Douglas had a bit of an ego that didn’t allow for him to switch gear into roles more fitting his age, unlike say Burt Lancaster.

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: Probably true.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis, your 90s cast of The Front(1976) and 80s one of Boogie Nights?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Well really any good role played by his contemporaries in Robert Mitchum and Burt Lancaster, who were far more deft at finding and choosing projects. Even though they both found leading roles, a lot of those roles embraced their age a bit where there felt like there was a hesitation in Douglas to do that, until late in his career where it was a bit too late. Also would've been a great Trautman in First Blood and really should've just accepted the re-write, which likely would've developed into at least a minor career boost.

Ytrewq:

90's The Front:

Howard Prince: Bill Murray
Hecky Brown: Ned Beatty
Alfred Miller: Harold Ramis

80's Boogie Nights:

Dirk Diggler: Val Kilmer
Reed Rothchild: Daniel Stern
Jack Horner: James Garner
Buck Swope: Giancarlo Esposito
Little Bill: Rene Auberjonois
Rollergirl: Jennifer Jason Leigh
Amber Waves: Barbara Hershey
Scotty J: Pruitt Taylor Vince
Todd Parker: Eric Stoltz
Rahad Jackson: Raul Julia

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Did you watch Capernaum when you covered 2018 initially? If so, could I get your thoughts on the film.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

I was not able to.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: I don't have a winning request on me but I hear your the kind of detective that likes a mystery... would you like to solve one =D, a 1964 mystery perhaps?

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: It's Franciosa isn't it.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: My cards haven't been dealt yet, numerous possibilities are ahead =D.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: how do you think Kyle MacLachlan would have done as Dirk Diggler?

And what are your thoughts on Jamie Foxx as an actor, now that you have seen more movies where you liked him, like Soul and Jarhead.

8000S said...

Louis: I read how Preston Sturges wrote a script for The Invisible Man that was rejected by Universal, and considering how he specialized in comedies, what do you think of the idea of him writing and directing a horror comedy?

Anonymous said...

Louis: When will the next review be up?

Sean Ingram said...

Louis, can Tom Cruise get an upgrade for Rain Man, if not then possibly a review?? Cause it's often mentioned as one of his very best performances and I believe that you have given him a 3.5... So I would really love to know your views on his performance now and point out what you feel like are flaws within it... I thought that it was an excellent depiction of a narcissist and Cruise made his character arc very very believable and convincing and carried the movie.

Louis Morgan said...

RatedRStar:

I'm always interested in a mystery.

Lucas:

That role doesn't really play towards his strengths.

I mean Foxx I'd categorize as not overly talented, but does have an earnestness in his performance style that I think does benefit him. He's always trying very much to be whatever he is playing, but the more that is asked of him in that regard the more likely he'll struggle. He started in comedy, and that is his strong suit. If a performance has a degree of that it seems to benefit him and helps him find kind of the right approach to what he's looking for overall. Whereas if he's purely serious it comes off as more of him trying to be serious than wholly achieving in that.

8000's:

Certainly something I would've liked to have seen.

Anonymous:

Guys if you notice, I never answer that question.

Perfectionist:

He's not a 3.5 I like the performance but I won't be reviewing him for that.

Sean Ingram said...

Alright understandable. So what is he then?? 3 or 4??

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: He's a 4.

Sean Ingram said...

Luke: Good enough. That's honestly a great rating then... I thought it was 3.5 and thought it was low. 4 is good.