G.D. Spradlin, Albert Hall, Laurence Fishburne, Herb Rice & Frederic Forrest did not receive Oscar nominations for portraying General Corman, Chief, Clean, Roach and Chef respectively in Apocalypse Now.
Apocalypse Now, as much as it is seen as a grand epic directorial achievement by Francis Ford Coppola, and it is, what seems to often make a true masterpiece is no singular element merely is, and almost every element seems to contribute to that greatness, the grand ensemble of this film included. Take for example one of the earliest scenes where Willard (Martin Sheen) is given his mission by three officials. Technically an exposition scene, but nothing about it do you think of exposition as it is filled with such mood and atmosphere, with the performances being an essential part of this. I could even have spoken of Harrison Ford, playing very much not his expected type, as the nervous junior Officer giving Willard the lowdown on his mission to assassinate Colonel Kurtz (Marlon Brando) clearing his throat denoting his discomfort of the situation or I could mention Jerry Ziesmer's nearly silent but wholly enigmatic portrayal of the man in civilian clothes who seems to be peering into Willard's soul as he has this overt comfort in the conversation. I decided though to focus on G.D. Spradlin, who previously worked with Coppola by playing a sleazy politician with great aplomb in The Godfather Part II, here has a small role, but one where you can see how much a performance can add. Technically all that the character of General Corman is saying is that Kurtz has gone off the deep end. Spradlin's performance though brings so much more subtext to each statement. His eyes almost drifting off as he speaks to Willard as though he has a fixation on some potent memory. His delivery on Kurtz believing himself to be God has this empathetic quality, not at all just informative, and his eyes almost seem to suggest some understanding of Kurtz if not even a direct personal connection to the man. Spradlin speaks with a strict empathy for the Colonel as he is technically ordering his demise, and in just the single scene presents a strange struggle the man is having in making this decision to execute. We never learn anything more about Corman, or his connection to Kurtz, however, within that there is such a greater depth by making the exposition far from it.
The Do Long Bridge scene I may be coming around to believing to be the greatest scene in a film filled with brilliant scenes, where Willard and his crew come across the last US outpost in Vietnam where it is a chaotic mess of men fighting or just existing while being attacked by an unseen Vietcong. Willard comes across one machine gun nest that fails to kill a pestering Vietcong, leading them to call on one Roach, which leads to the appearance of Herb Rice's Roach. This is one of those performances, as brief as it is, that I have never forgotten despite its brevity. Technically speaking Roach just shows up shoots a grenade launcher to kill the soldier then disappears into the darkness, yet in that short span leaves an unforgettable impression. Rice's whole manner is so strange yet so perfect in the not quite human manner in which he seems almost above the idea of the warzone. It isn't quite stoic I would say, but there is something where he seems beyond the state of his existence where his intention is so clear so and precise. His mentioning that the soldier "is close" with this sort of primeval almost understanding of the battle that isn't of some soldier of any modern-day, but something twisted beyond that. The reason I had to write about this performance though is his final moment where Willard, who has repeatedly been asking this question to no avail, "do you know who's in charge here". Rice's delivery of "Yeah" is genius in its ambiguity yet also in the sheer conviction of it. Roach most certainly knows something and has achieved some higher disturbing plain of existence in this state. The yeah alluding to whatever you want, but wholly chilling as Rice makes it a statement of absolute certainty in Roach's mind yet would be the opposite of anyone determining what that is.
The most substantial supporting cast in terms of screen time is the crew of the boat that Willard is using to reach Kurtz, this includes the very young Laurence Fishburne as Clean, Frederic Forrest delivering his other notable turn from 1979, after his more subdued work as a man in a very complicated relationship in The Rose, as Chef and Albert Hall as the very similarly named Chief. I did not mention Sam Bottoms as the surfer Lance who I think actually is the weak link of the cast as the whole, though not bad, however, he apparently was on drugs while filming which is befitting his drugged-out surfer, however, it isn't quite as pointed as say Dennis Hopper who also was extremely high, though maybe that just speaks to Hopper's talent. Anyway, each man offers a different kind of soldier, and are fascinating in realizing the different men as they are. Fishburne actually is almost a performance defined by a kind of id that is rather fascinating to behold. This as his youth is quite obvious however the energy that Fishburne runs around the boat is very particular and exudes a man who has no idea quite that he's even in a warzone. There's this sense of a young boy playing a war throughout his performance and his almost mischievous quality as he moves around the boat often pestering others while never quite seeming to understand the severity of his situation. Opposed to that is Albert Hall's chief who gives a performance that I think I appreciate a bit more with every subsequent viewing. He gives one of the most low-key performances in the film basically making Chief as much of a straight man as there can be in the film. His portrayal actually would be equal to really what one would expect is the John Wayne character in a war film, in that he's a man who is going to do his duty and try to stay as calm as he can be. Hall is terrific in finding the right sense of this sort of professionalism for the lack of a better word as the soldier that puts him in stark contrast to everyone else on his ship. This is especially when compared to Frederic Forrest, who though it might sound like a joke, is maybe the sanest man in the whole film and that is entirely the problem. Forrest finds this very specific and really brilliant basic tone in his performance. This being actually quite the intense extreme that he presents Chef as basically a man who knows he is going insane and therefore is either falling into moments of that or is this attempt at some kind of Zen. The key here in Forrest's performance though is that Chef doesn't ever achieve that instead there is so much bottled-uped intensity in Forrest's eyes that you see someone almost always ready to explode.
In the earliest scenes of the boat, we get some great small moments from each of the actors with Fishburne dancing around as though Clean hasn't a care in the world. Forrest has a great comic moment when questioning why some soldiers sit on their helmets and his pitch-perfect humorous mimic of the technique. Again though even while funny Forrest is great in portraying the sense in his eyes as he laughs about it, thinks about it, and then technically like the sanest man decides to use his helmet to guard his testicles as the soldiers had suggested. Hall is great in his subtle work that always supports Chief trying to maintain order best he can, with his delivery always supporting the idea of trying to keep things together. I love the bit of underlying suspicion he presents when asking Willard questions about the mission as though Chief is trying to sense if Willard is going to potentially kill his men or not, men that Hall always quietly alludes to the very genuine care he does have for his men despite the situations he technically follows putting them into. There is nothing blithe in Hall's performance, particularly compared to some other authority figures in the film, he seems to actually have a reasonable degree of concern in his duty. Back to Forrest who I think has little gems throughout the film in realizing the tightly wound man who is just right to burst. Everything about his physical presence is built within Forrest's performance from the way his posture is almost in a slight fetal position at times to just his often clenched teeth. Again though that is of this man holding onto sanity that often pops off. The first full instance we see of this is when he and Willard take a brief expedition into the jungle where they encounter a tiger and Forrest's full-bodied freakout of Chef's, as he says to never leave the boat, is a masterful portrayal of complete hysteria and this natural movement from the tightly wound to the full explosion of mania. Now going back to the Chef as the sanest man in the film, which my prior description would contradict. Forrest emphasizes throughout his performance a man who knows he's in a war zone, in mortal dangers at all times, he understands it so well, that he's properly tightly wound if not made wholly insane by that sane understanding of his situation.
The highlight scene for the boat crew is when they all come across a boat of locals that Chief wants to check for weapons, despite Willard's protests. Hall again is great by really playing the discontent with Willard in just a glance and moment, and this sense of a man being fed up with the danger of the orders as well as the seeming shirking of his duties. Chief ordering the inspection with the manner of the proper ship Captain, trying to maintain a routine, even if he's in a place and world where routine is madness. Fishburne portrays Mr. Clean as basically a boy with a raygun as he's aiming it at the civilians, meanwhile, Chef has the thankless duty of searching the boat. Forrest again is great in portraying the hesitating awkwardness as he rather haphazardly searches. Forrest just exuding such anxiety in every moment as Chef clearly wants to be anywhere but there, checking every search point in a rushed chaotic hurry trying just to get it over with. When one of the people makes a sudden move Clean literally jumps the gun leading to a massacre of all the people right next to Chef. Fishburne portrayed in Clean still just rush of adrenaline with little meaning in the deaths, Chief frustrated but holding it together to try to lead still, meanwhile again as in many ways the sanest man, Forrest is amazing in portraying the quick mental breakdown. His delivery of every random yell that goes from extreme empathy to extreme callousness creates the sense of a man's mind breaking in two trying to create a sense of the horror he just saw. Forrest completely being so powerful in showing the man just cracking in two at the moment while just barely holding it together. He grants it a mania in his eyes, but carefully it is always with this particular sense of extreme sadness and disbelief at what he's seeing. Now in short order, Clean himself is killed, and it needs to be noted the important reactions of both Chief and Chef. Both Hall and Forrest show that the men are genuinely heartbroken at the death, and show that as much as one man is barely holding onto his sanity and the other is so controlled that it seems insane, they did deeply care for their shipmate. Sadly this is followed even sooner by Chief's death via spear which is an outstanding bit of acting from Hall. This first his kind of ironic bemusement at the act, as he kind of laughs at the joke being played on him by the universe, while also wholly conveying the sudden pain and surprise of it. Followed right by finally seeing all the hate he had for Willard realized in his eyes as he tries to kill Willard in his literal final breath. It is a great moment, particularly because we see the truth of Chief that he was holding together all along that without the pretense of duty he had plenty of festering humanity. Speaking of festering humanity, Forrest's final major scene with Willard, where both discuss how to handle the Kurtz situation, is great acting from Forrest again. This is Forrest conducts just the right sense of focus with confusion, conviction with exasperation, and madness with sanity. His delivery of Chef's strange articulation of the darkness of the place, as a place he'd rather die in than stay any longer, should make no sense, and it doesn't per se, but it does in Forrest's pitch-perfect articulation of it. It all makes sense in Chef's rattled mind, a rattled mind that Forrest made so powerfully tangible. Although none of these performances typically get the press with this film, it shows the greatness of the film with just how much vibrancy and depth they bring nonetheless. Although in some cases small parts, yet substantial in crafting the tapestry of this masterpiece.
(Spradlin, Rice & Fishburne)
(Forrest and Hall)
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Louis: Great reviews. Can you confirm if Hopper and Sheen have gone up?
Marcus: They both went up.
Starting to think we might be underestimating Kotto and he may well be getting a 5.
Great writeups, especially loved the bit about Herb Rice.
I'm so pleased Hopper went up.
Stranger Things 3 is easily the weakest season. In fact I'd say the first couple episodes are actually terrible, I just did not vibe with the newfound ultra goofiness and I HATED the way they were treating Hopper, as well as the ridiculous Russian villains. As it went on though it got better, and it definitely ends strong.
Ranking
1. Maya Hawke
2. Joe Keery
3. Dacre Montgomery
4. Cary Elwes (Wouldn't have minded him as the main villain)
5. Millie Bobby Brown
6. Gaten Mattarazzo
7. David Harbour (Realistically he should be much lower because I despised the way he was written and he was playing way too much into it and being much much too goofy. However, that said...my god, his delivery of his letter to Eleven is absolutely *fantastic*, and that alone puts him way higher than he would be otherwise.)
8. Sadie Sink
9. Natalia Dyer
10. Noah Schnapp
11. Finn Wolfhard
12. Caleb McLaughlin
13. Brett Gelman (Still kind of annoying, but much less so, which is weird because there's much more of him this time)
14. Winona Ryder (All over the place once again, but in a different way this time, like she was sort of lost or something.)
15. Charlie Heaton
16. The cartoon Russian villains, collectively (Not helped by the fact that I'm also watching 'The Americans' right now.)
17. Priah Ferguson (Yeeeeahhh...definitely a "small doses" character it seems, because I liked her brief moments in season 2 but here she's just annoying.)
Louis: Do you think David Warner would've been a great fit for the Murphy role in a 70s UK Red Eye.
Louis: Your thoughts on Walter Murch's editing and Dean Tavoularis' production design of the film.
Louis: your 1940s, 1950s and 1960s director and cast for Apocalypse Now?
Luke, with the 80s coming up soon, which year do you expect to come next and your lineups for both.
Glenn: I'm absolutely certain it's 81. Because 83 came much earlier than planned, it's been on the backburner longer than any other year.
I admit, I'm far more interested in Supporting Actor.
Best Actor
Sam Neill - Possession
Michel Serrault/Lino Ventura - Garde À Vue (The Inquisitor, Although he's not listed, Razor did request Serrault)
Jeremy Irons - The French Lieutenant’s Woman
John Heard - Cutter's Way
Keith Carradine/Powers Boothe - Southern Comfort
Not sure about Dennis Hopper in Out Of The Blue as I assume the film really belongs to Linda Manz.
Best Supporting Actor
Nicol Williamson - Excalibur (By far, one of my most anticipated reviews)
Griffin Dunne - An American Werewolf In London
Rutger Hauer - Nighthawks
Fred Ward - Southern Comfort
David Warner - Time Bandits
Bonus: James Woods - Eyewitness
81 no!
Makes 89 before, it was the worst year of the 80s.
Shaggy: Sorry to tell you but 89 will be last from the 80s and Louis has a set plan that he brought over from the first round of alternatives so you need to quit being so demanding and be patient from now on but again my plea to you will fall on deaf ears like always.
Shaggy, calling 89 the worst year of the 80s is not enough reason to push it forward, especially if Louis does not share the same sentiment.
At least Luke has some valid reasons for 2006 to be pushed forward.
Glenn: To add to your 80s comment, I think there's more likelihood of a stronger lead actor lineup for 89 than 81. Blanc and Noiret look like they could be 5s plus Woods review for True Believer whereas I'm struggling to see any for 81 aside from a possible Brandauer upgrade.
Guys, let him do whatever year he wants when he wants, jeez.
Matt: I am in agreement with you.
Luke:
Yes.
8000's:
The production design is masterful work, that could only be bested by Alien's somehow even more impressive work. The work in part is how location is so important in itself as the jungle here is particular looking in a way few films are. That alone is special, however greater is the detail in crafting every wartorn setting, from the initial village Killgore destroys or especially everything involving Do Long bridge that is masterful chaos, distinct yet authentic to the idea of warzone. Stand out sets though are Kurtz's compound that is primal horror in itself from the dead body set "decorations" to Kurtz's "temple", or the USO show stands that is a fascinating in how odd it looks in the middle of nowhere, however also as this modern colleseum as barbarians are satiated.
The editing is a particularly notable achievement given the chaos of the production, which in a way speaks to how much footage was cut. Rightly cut and I'm glad it seems largely understood that the theatrical cut should be honored as the proper cut of the film (I really wish Amadeus would get the same benefit someday, hate that the dvd and VHS are the only ways to get that cut, but I severely digress.) Any the theatrical cut's editing is outstanding not only in what it did, but it successfully created mastery over what could've been a mess. Notable though is really how much the editing does, as it has moments of pure action brilliance in creating such striking cohesion in the helicopter. Contrast that to the more overtly stylistic work when we are more deeply in Willard's POV where the editing is more drifting yet wholly works in crafting this sense of the man's contemplations through that. The editing crafts a remarkable pace for the film that is essential with such journeys, but what is truly amazing is the way it successfully changes pace accordingly to moments. For example it is extremely kinetic in the helicopter scene or the playboy bunnies, brilliantly so, but in contrast the key to the Do Long Bridge scene are the pausing in the editing, lingering on a shot.
Shaggy:
You can find 40's and 50's in my review of Cranston for Trumbo.
Louis: I don't know if you've given them already but thoughts on Storaro's cinematography.
Louis: Your thoughts on Anna Massey's voice.
Well, on the note of more recent film viewings, I did watch "The Gray Man" tonight...which I sadly didn't like as much as I hoped. One problem revolves around the uneven performances (see ratings below), but beyond that is Russo's surprisingly weird and ill fitting directional choices. Also, I can't help but feel we've seen this story done to death by now, or that the film could've benefited by just slowing down the pacing/action scenes a touch.
Gosling - 3.5 (Nowhere near as great as his 2016-2018 streak, but still solid.)
Evans - 3 (Technically enjoyable - if lesser - variation on his "Knives Out" smarminess. This performance could've really worked in a broad comedic thriller, but since the film is mostly serious, he's unfortunately more of a sore thumb than he should be.)
de Armas - 3 (Does what she can, though certainly underutilized overall.)
Thornton - 3.5 (Good to see him again no doubt, and like de Armas, he does his best with a relatively simple part.)
Page - 2 (Tries to be menacing, but it simply didn't work for me.)
Shaggy: You can find his 1960s cast for Apocalypse Now in John Wayne's review for The Shootist.
Louis: Your thoughts on the screenplay for Apocalypse Now.
I watched Oblivion from 2013. You know what? Sometimes I just don’t care if a plot is boring so long as the movie looks pretty and sounds great. I liked this stupid movie. Louis, if you want some serious contenders to knock out your Original Score, Original Song, Production Design, and possibly even Cinematography wins that year, it’s worth it.
Robert: I haven’t seen Oblivion, but sometimes style over substance is fine.
Louis: thoughts on the Quentin Tarantino's joke scene from Desperado?
I've started watching the What We Do in the Shadows tv show and it is very very funny.
Louis: Well... Director and Cast in the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s of Apocalypse Now.
Shaggy: You can find his 2010s Apocalypse Now cast in The Great Gatsby 1974 Supporting reviews.
That Banshees of Inisherin trailer was fantastic.
Louis: Your favorite single episode performances on TV? Cranston will probably be there for 'Ozymandias', but I was wondering which others would be up there for you.
Louis: Your thoughts on the trailer.
Bryan:
Well the screenplay is obviously quite different from the final product in this instance. The ending is almost entirely different (really mainly just keeping the Heart of Darkness line of "The Horror the horror" and obviously the screenplay does contain the redux scenes that don't quite work, however proper direction and editing naturally should weed out elements from the screenplay, particularly as ambitious as the screenplay is, and hone in on the best elements. What the screenplay though does is fascinating in taking the novella and truly adapting it to a wholly new situation with brand new characters for the most part however while touching upon some of the themes. Apocalypse Now in itself as a screenplay really isn't a traditional war film, in the war is truly just the setting for this journey that is of man in chaos and almost his moving out of time and what is seen of traditional society. One can say it is anti-war, in that you definitely don't want to go to this place yourself, however I'd argue that isn't at all the intention it is rather examining what it does to a person to deal with such things. Almost every character is a reflection of that to some degree, whether it is ragged Willard trying to understand the similar man to him Kurtz, with such brilliantly written narration throughout that realizes this point. Each of the boat crew that represent a different kind of person stuck within this situation and what becomes of them through that. Killgore as the man loving the war and all it has to offer, my favorite line (though it is more performance driven) actually not being Napalm (as great a line as that is) but "Someday this war's going to end" with regretful overtones. It is important within the film as no situation feels simple yet are part of an overarching fascinating variations on the theme that are natural progression, natural explorations of the character, and dynamic within themselves, further supported by truly unforgettable moments, rich dialogue and characters. It is a truly ambitious piece in the purest of senses in such a grand and overarching perspective but also taking a what it is seen as literary classic and essentially re-writing all anew on one's own accord. The clashing of the environment and a man's soul, now with war, and what it does to each man, while also just successfully telling a truly compelling story of one journey through a warzone and into darkness.
Robert:
Well I will have to check it out at some point.
Ytrewq:
It is a good Tarantino style monologue as a ridiculous joke with a twist, though I can never fully abide Tarantino's presence.
Shaggy:
2000's directed by Peter Weir:
Willard: Guy Pearce
Killgore: Russell Crowe
Chef: Sam Rockwell
Chief: Courtney B. Vance
Clean: Michael B. Jordan
Corman: Sam Neill
Lance: Lou Pucci
The Photojournalist: Robert Downey Jr.
Kurtz: Mel Gibson
2020's directed by Denis Villeneuve:
Willard: Ryan Gosling
Killgore: Tom Hardy
Chef: Christopher Abbott
Chief: Yahya Abdul-Mateen II
Clean: Caleb McLaughlin
Corman: Michael Shannon
Lance: Noah Jupe
The Photojournalist: David Dastmalchian
Kurtz: Joaquin Phoenix
Luke:
Loved it entirely, don't know exactly what's going on but that's fine by me. Gleeson and Farrell both look very promising and look forward to see what Keoghan has in store with McDonagh.
Saying all of this about Apocalypse Now and it still not being your number one really speaks to the greatness of Alien.
I have to concur with everyone on the trailer for "The Banshees of Inisherin"...which, after a string of more American based films, ought to be a nice return to McDonagh's roots.
It's also hard to believe Gleeson has never been nominated by the oscars, so at the risk of jinxing his chances, the possibility could be there with this film.
Louis: I like how you mentioned the “Someday this wars going to end” line, since Duvall delivers it in a somewhat wistful way, as if he’s genuinely going to miss the war when it ends and won’t know what to do after it does.
Apocalypse Now for me is one of those films where I’ve actively pondered the themes of it several times.
Louis: The 2000s cast is perfect. While the 2020 roster I think Phoenix doesn't quite fit in with Kurtz, maybe Stellan Skarsgard is the most ideal.
Louis: Your #6-10 for 1979 Cinematography.
I heavily object to Gibson as Kurtz on principle. I'd say Mickey Rourke.
Saw Bullet Train. Would categorize it as 60% awful, 30% bizarre, and 10% compelling. Hiroyuki Sanada and Brian Tyree Henry MVPs.
Anonymous:
6. Nosferatu the Vampyre
7. Siberiade
8. The Marriage of Maria Braun
9. Christ Stopped At Eboli
10. Being There
Louis: Man, Weir, Pearce, Crowe and Gibson are fantastic choices.
What are your thoughts on the direction and cinematography of Onibaba? Oh, and you forgot to give your thoughts on the voice of Anna Massey.
By the way, if you're curious, you can watch The Naked Island and Kuroneko, also directed by Shindo here:
https://ok.ru/video/11956258254
https://ok.ru/video/2409214839406
I also found on Ok.ru Kon Ichikawa's Ototo from 1960, but unfortunately it has Russian subtitles, not English ones. I've read that it was one of Kurosawa's favorite films, and interestingly enough, Kazuo Miyagawa used bleach bypass to create the look for the film.
In the past few days, I also watched Vampyr from Carl Dreyer. It has dialogue, but it's really a silent film with brilliant atmosphere. I smell wins for Direction and Cinematography when we get to 1932.
8000S: Could you check out Boudu saved from Drowning and Island Of Lost Souls from 32, might have some possible Lead Actor winners in Simon and Laughton.
Luke: Sure thing.
Just saw Resurrection. Not quite sure how I feel about the ending but I found it very compelling and haunting. Hall is amazing, especially this monologue she gives halfway through, and Roth is also fantastic.
Calvin: cast ratings for Resurrection?
Also, anyone seeing Bullet Train this weekend? I’m watching it tonight.
Marcus:
Just a few off the top of my head.
James Gandolfini - (Funhouse)
Vincent Curatola - (Stage-5)
Drea de Matteo - (Long Term Parking)
Jonathan Banks - (Five-O)
Glenn Howerton - (Mac & Dennis Move to the Suburbs)
Aaron Paul - (Problem Dog)
Giancarlo Esposito - (Hermanos)
8000's:
Well haven't seen too much of Massey but a very meek though pleasant voice.
Onibaba's direction and cinematography go very much hand in hand of course. I would say the dominant choice of the film though is really how dark the blacks are in the film that make the whole atmosphere of the film both very tangible and isolating. In that it feels as though you cannot escape this horrible world of the film that is marked by this unbearable shadow. Even the daylight scenes feel always overcast and everyone is marked by this sort of shading of some sinful state. The cinematography absolutely stunning though in crafting such extreme contrasts between the bits of light at time against the dominating blacks. The composition and framing of shots emphasizing this keeping the figures surrounded by the bleakness of their world. In turn the direction likewise is unrelenting in showing everything as this strict brutality that is without intimacy. There is lust not love, and most are defined by the brutal of wants and desires. It is a scornful film that works in this approach by just crafting so well the nature of the world that is defined really just by sin, and throws you into the isolation of such a place.
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