Thursday 25 August 2022

Alternate Best Actor 1981: Jeremy Irons in The French Lieutenant's Woman

Jeremy Irons did not receive an Oscar nomination, despite being nominated for a BAFTA, for portraying Charles Henry Smithson and Mike in The French Lieutenant's Woman. 

The French Lieutenant's Woman tells of two actors having an affair portraying a forbidden romance of the past. 

It must be said Jeremy Irons has a peculiar relationship with the academy with his one nomination and one win to his name, though a most deserving win to be sure. Being ignored throughout what was his most prominent decade of the eighties consistently including this film, which did quite well with Meryl Streep's leading role, as Charles's eventual lover Sarah and Mike's lover/co-star Anna, I would say just missed winning, losing out over an unneeded fourth win for Katherine Hepburn, given that Streep had won the drama Globe and later the BAFTA for her performance. Anyway Irons I think, as much as he would be dynamic in many more off-beat roles, seems tailored made for a period drama. That is his patrician look and far more patrician voice of his, but also Irons being just an especially striking performer. What makes him striking though is very specific in that Irons has all the surface-level qualities of a stuffy performer however he doesn't feel as such. Irons is rather brilliant in being able to ply his trade in this form as he is an actor very much of the eyes in a film like this where Charles is the proper gentleman. The proper gentleman in as we see him with his more proper fiancée do we have Irons projecting the gentle smile and upright demeanor expected of such a man. His eyes though are the truth of the man, and when he first sees Sarah dramatically at the end of a long dock, Irons's performance so subtly, yet potently, reveals the emotional conflicts of the man as the image of the woman clearly weighs within the man's mind, almost against his wishes. 

The development of this affair is the classic narrative of the man really of deep contemplation of Charles. Irons is exceptional really at that as he really does it with such ease, and for the best work, grace. He knows exactly how to contain emotion in his performance while still portraying a very reserved man. In this relationship, we get the scenes of the two together that slowly develop and really begin with Charles just being fascinated with this woman. Irons portrays this so well because he doesn't make it really this obvious lust but rather genuinely this captivation with her that goes far beyond that. This is carried in their conversation, as she describes her state after a lurid affair with the titular French Lieutenant, and Irons is exceptional in presenting this deeply rooted empathy and interest even as she reveals herself in this way. Irons presents his man not as a lothario but rather with this deep compassion for this woman that becomes a real love for her. This even in the moment of forgetting his fiancée, even having to face society who is against any rejection of the expected match, Irons presents Charles's attitude so effectively as this man burdened by this truth in his mind. We see everything that is going on through his mind so carefully and elegantly in his performance. Again Irons is ideal for such a film and such a character because as much as he can be a magnificent broad performer, he can contain so much in a look. That is what we get here from Irons and he naturally creates the sense of the development of the relationship with Streep's Sarah. 

Contrasting all of that is his performance as Mike where Irons doesn't put on any overt mannerisms per the change, other than somewhat less emphasizing the properness of his accent, Irons though demeanor naturally segues in a way where you might not even take notice. The stiffness of the man is removed and there is just much more of a man a more modern man as we see him with Anna. The two share a moment in bed being purposefully far less dramatic but effectively far less dramatic in that sense. The two are much more bluntly having an affair, but here you get very strong work from Streep and Irons in portraying a modern affair in this sense. Although there is a reserve in their scenes out among others, as they are hiding an affair, and there Irons presents a different kind of pressure in Mike as opposed to Charles. A man who is more overtly frustrated at times. This is against their intimate moments where there is an ease between the performances. Both in a way that articulates this connection as almost too blithe in a way and perhaps too casual between the two. They just really are with each other, you get a playful sense of them together. The change here is not that burden of the woman on his mind in such a grandiose way as with Charles, but much more viscerally of the now. Irons is as good at presenting this much more overtly in his performance and expresses it more openly. Irons really excels in showing two different distinct shades of the same idea. Each shows a man needing to deal with this affair, one with that deep contemplation and the other just a direct pressure upon him to try to make their relationship more than it is.  

The performances of both actors really are the key to this film working, as much as it is certainly well helmed and rather beautifully shot. These are the differences in the two performances is which help to craft the contrasting affairs of the film of Sarah and Charles again Mike and Anna. We see two people going through a similar thing but very differently by the age they live in. And in turn, you get two great moments of building towards their finale in facing the affair. Irons as Charles in the past confronts Sarah where it is this unleashing of emotion, a powerful unleashing where the restraint naturally goes away as basically the quiet man having the secrets within him forced out of him at this moment. Although in that release seemingly find solace and perhaps tenderness between the two. Contrasting that one final time is Mike and Anna as their wrap party. A simpler and now it is quieter resolution. The two just kinds of very subtly portray each considering each other, but not quite embracing each other. Both find just the right sense of two people with a secret that is almost too separated within the loud world of the party to share. The final moment is the last spoken word of Mike trying to cry out. Irons is great though in showing not the distraught pathos of old, but this modern just recognition of the failed state of the affair. Although as dual role performances go, even in Irons's career, this is relatively reserved, it is strong work in presenting and articulating the same idea though as changed by the nature of time and place. 

120 comments:

8000S said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Streep?

Bryan L. said...

I hope Jeremy Irons lands at least one more great film role at some point (even in a supporting role), and get a second nom. He’s too talented to only have one to his name.

Anonymous said...

Louis: thoughts on the new TÁR trailer.

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Thief. Pretty great crime film. OBVIOUS influence on Drive.
Caan-5
Weld-3
Prosky-4.5(He's good throughout and great in the scene where he threatens Frank, but this movie belongs to Caan.)

Matt Mustin said...

3.5 for Nelson.

Marcus said...

Louis: Do you think Dinklage could have possibly given a career best performance in a spoken 'straight' adaptation of Cyrano de Bergerac?

Also, which of his performances do you prefer between The Station Agent and Cyrano?

Anonymous said...

Louis, could Caan move up in the ranking.

Houndtang said...

Strange career Jezza Irons. Seems like it went into rapid decline after his Oscar win. Few prestigious roles after that and by 2000 he was screaming 'let their blood raiiinnnnn from the skkiiieeeesssss'

Luke Higham said...

I think his career's been awfully similar to Pacino's. Hit his peak early on then gave much of his best later work on TV (Elizabeth I, The Borgias, Hollow Crown, Watchmen etc).

Shaggy Rogers said...

After the Family Guy's joke of Jeremy Irons' cereal I never got to see him the same way I did in Dead Ringers and The Lion King.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQHec6kR3eg

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the 'Naatu Naatu' sequence from RRR? (https://youtu.be/OsU0CGZoV8E)

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Streep - 4.5(She's quite good like Irons in portraying the two types of women in this affair as defined by time. Her actress is a very low key Streep performance though effective in its low key quality of not making the affair seemingly substantial in this way. This is against Sarah that is the portrayal of the very dramatic affair. There her performance though is filled with much dramatic tension and effectively so. Her performance delivering in those moments though a careful balance between being the seemingly doomed romantic type though with a real humanity. My favorite moments actually being the more intimate ones with Irons, where she speaks her mind quietly and powerfully reveals the truths within the character.)

Anonymous:

It appears to be a whole lot, and even that seems somewhat a departure for Field (if you can call a departure for someone's third film) with the seeming overt visual nature of it, intriguing enough with Blanchett obviously going for it, and her and Hoss certainly could be quite the pairing.

Marcus

Eh, it would be tough, if you separate out Dinklage's GOT performances by seasons rather than being taken as a whole his work in 1-4 was pretty stellar.

The Station Agent.

Anonymous:

Possibly.

Tahmeed:

An absolutely delightful scene that while I often have been one not loving the random musical number, this one totally works as this attack of joy basically with just how much energy is in the number on every front, and I especially love the character moment of Raju throwing the dance match.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Moncada brothers in Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I mean essentially Bardem's Chigurh with a lot less nuance. Most of their work is just uncompromising cold stare, but they do it well. It is easy to come off as phony or too much with such a role, and while not achieving the heights of really the perfect version of this type of performance with Bardem they totally work as this instant intense short hand menace. There is occasionally a little more to their work in creating the emotional connection between the two, which is well handled albeit briefly, but still that isn't the focus of their performances. Mostly it is just the be the uncompromising killer and their performances bring that appropriate unrelenting terror.

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Since it's being released in American theatres next month, what's everyone's thoughts on the trailer for "The Good House"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_CZl5Snivc&ab_channel=ONEMedia

Personally, I have little expectations for the film itself, since it's within a genre that I can either like or dislike; And to be especially blunt, there are worrying moments/scenarios in the trailer that give me "Hallmark" vibes. The only reason I really bring the film up (and I'm sure this is the reason for a lot of people's interest), is the promise of 88' Oscars alumni Kline and Weaver - both of whom are due for a quality acting role in their 70s.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I've been rewatching Breaking Bad from the beginning, and I feel differently about certain aspects than I did when I watched it 9 years ago. For one, I have more sympathy for Jesse's parents. They come off less selfish and judgmental and more like two people who recognize the pattern of addict behavior too much to feel like they can help.

I *entirely* forgot that Walter tried to force himself onto Skyler in the season 2 premiere, so uh, that was uncomfortable. Feel like maybe they pulled the trigger on that side of Walter too soon, but I guess it does hold basis for Season 5 Walter.

I remain steadfast that Aaron Paul is the series MVP. I'm even more impressed with how much he did with Jesse *before* they gave him an arc to work off of than I was at the time.

Also, is it just me, or did they seem to write Hank as a closet addict in season 1 before dropping that thread once he killed Tuco? He's more of an asshole and does a shit ton of sniffing.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your unranked top 5 for Best Original Song so far for 2022

8000S said...

Louis: Your top 10 worst makeup jobs of all time in cinema.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Could you possibly check out Jakob Cedergren's performance in Vinterberg's Submarino (2010).

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

8000S: I predict either Mickey Rooney's look in Breakfast at Tiffany's or "Richard Nixon's" Pinocchio nose from Watchmen could be on that list.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

"Hold My Hand" - Top Gun: Maverick
"I Ain't Worried" - Top Gun: Maverick
"Naatu Naatu" - RRR
"Sholay" - RRR
"This Is A Life" - Everything Everywhere All At Once

8000's:

Well considering only films with an actual budget and not including overtly racist jobs (otherwise just include any ten examples of blackface from the 20's and 30's).

James Caan & Bette Midler Old - For The Boys
White Chicks - White Chicks
Baraka - Mortal Kombat Annihilation
Nixon - Watchmen
Armie Hammer & Leonardo DiCaprio - J. Edgar
Guy Pearce - Prometheus
Al Pacino Final Scene - The Godfather Part III
Any Disguise - The Master of Disguise
Bane's Arms - Batman & Robin
The Whos - The Grinch

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, I'm proud to say that I watched 2021's "Nightmare Alley" for the first time tonight. Admittedly, I'm unfamiliar with the 1947 version, so my reaction was purely based on the Del Toro film....which, to be upfront, is fantastic. I'll have to think about how I liked it compared to "Shape of Water", but they're pretty close IMO. And just like that movie, Del Toro's strong directorial vision is amplified by stunning camera work, costumes, set design and music. The acting obviously helps, as well, and I'll offer some cast ratings that probably line up with the consensus here.

Cooper - 5 (Easy career peak, and a frankly brilliant portrayal of a man unravelling into his true, dark self)
Mara - 4 (Could go up, as this is her best "love interest" performance in recent memory)
Dafoe - 4
Strathairn - 4
Blanchett - 4
Collette - 4
Jenkins - 3.5/4
Perlman - 3
Beaver - 3

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from Yojimbo.

"Sanjuro reveals his name"
"Sanjuro saves Kohei, Nui and their son"
"Unosuke confronts Sanjuro at the izakaya"
"Sanjuro gets tortured by Ushitora's men"
"Sanjuro escapes Ushitora's place"

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the scene from Breaking Bad season 3 where Walter gives a 'motivational' assembly speech?

Tony Kim said...

Speaking of which - Louis, what are your thoughts on this Breaking Bad scene, particularly Bryan Cranston and Jessica Hecht's performances in it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R-MrgvLbCQ

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Thoughts on the full breakdown scene from Life and Death of Peter Sellers?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Like Matthias Schoenaerts and Ben Foster, who are some other working actors/actresses that you think seem to be always on the cusp of breaking out, yet always seem to miss out?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: Today is David Fincher is turning 60 years. To celebrate tell your rankings of his films and performances under his direction.

Fincher Films:
1. The Social Network
2. Se7en
3. Zodiac
4. Fight Club
5. Gone Girl
6. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
7. The Game
8. Mank
9. Alien 3
10. Panic Room
11. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Ranking of Fincher's performances:
1. Morgan Freeman - Se7en
2. John Carroll Lynch - Zodiac
3. Kevin Spacey - Se7en
4. Rooney Mara - The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
5. Jesse Eisenberg - The Social Network
6. Armie Hammer - The Social Network
7. Gary Oldman - Mank
8. Paul McGann - Alien 3
9. Rosamund Pike - Gone Girl
10. Brad Pitt - Se7en

PS: I hope Fincher saves Fassbender in The Killer.

Mitchell Murray said...
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Mitchell Murray said...

Bryan: If we're defining "breaking out" as having one widely praised, nominated role, and not someone who's decently known/works consistently....I think performers such as Elizabeth Debecki and Mary Elizabeth Winstead may qualify. I've noticed the latter has specifically grown a rather passionate fan base, many of whom see her as underrated.

Shaggy:

Film wise (Excluding "The Game" which I haven't seen)...

1) The Social Network
2) Se7en
3) Zodiac (Only seen it once...could go up on re-watch)
4) Gone Girl
5) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
6) Mank (I'll be the bold one and put this relatively high...not a perfect film of course, but a lot of its work flow thanks to Oldman and Seyfried)
7) Fight Club (Unfortunate how the film's cultural impact was potentially the opposite of what Fincher was intending. I myself still like the film, but of all of Fincher's movies it's the one that's likely aged the worse)
8) Panic Room
9) Alien 3 (Perhaps seeing another cut beyond the original might help)
10) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

Bryan L. said...

Mitchell: Definitely agree regarding Debicki and Winstead. I could see Debicki landing an Oscar nom within the next five (5) years.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

A perfect comedic moment via Mifune's sly glance and whole sarcastic delivery.

His saving scene is basically the true heroic moment for the character, and contrasting that you see a dogged earnestness for just a moment as he simply does the right thing without an angle.

Nakadai and Mifune acting together is always something to be appreciated and it is wonderful to see the snake and dog dance together in the moment. Particularly as you see Unosuke is the only one who really gets over on Sanjuro throughout the film by in no way underestimating him, as he doesn't give him the chance to fight by putting the gun on him instantly. With that perfect Nakadai smile of satisfaction when he's got Sanjuro dead to rights.

A scene of real brutality and showing that as much as Sanjuro seems largely the untouchable hero, the scene offers the real moment of desperation it should be with just how beaten Sanjuro is and how he can physically face the giant as much as he may try.

Contrasting that where we see the cleverness of the samurai in his escape that isn't pure physical might, rather is thought in his trap and then careful escape.

Tahmeed:

Painful to watch in the right way. This as Walt is basically explaining away how the severity of his crime (if technically indirect), and what you actually get is Walt doing what he always does which is to think about the numbers and the "science" to a fault in his overexplaining. Making his leadup to the more traditional "we'll survive" rings so perfectly hollow.

Ytrewq:

Great acting by Rush in depicting the fragile state of the psyche of Sellers in the moment, it speaks to the weaknesses of the film as the whole kind of man who had no personality theme of the film never quite comes together and that is part of the moment with the splitting of the personality. As good as Rush is in depicting the idea, the idea just isn't quite there.

Tony:

A very essential scene that is a window, though not the whole truth, about what was likely Walter's most important romantic relationship in terms of the actual connection at some point. Hecht is pretty great in the scene because she plays several notes at once in showing Gretchen in part is truly to be perfunctory and cordial as she can be in trying to not emphasize their old relationship, while showing the blunter of the frustration that are directly dealing with the relationship, while at the same time showing glimpses that she really is trying to understand Walt and actually does love him or did love at one time. Cranston on the other hand is illustrating Walt's ego at its purest as he is so filled with dismissive bitterness towards her and anger towards what he perceives as a betrayal. In there though Cranston conveys though this quiet sense of inadequacy as she calls her rich, that suggests or perhaps even reveals likely that inadequacy is what made him leave Grey Matter and break his relationship with Gretchen, not anything she did.

Bryan:

Chiwetel Ejiofor (Yes he did get an Oscar nomination but I think it still is true.)
Barry Pepper
Eva Green
Elizabeth Debicki

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the HOTD episode.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, I have two very different film notes I wanted to mention, and I'll type them in two comments out of respect.

Firstly, I watched "C'mon C'mon" tonight and quite admired the film. I thought it was a low key, honest portrayal of a simple enough story, and a reminder that kids can be far more absorbent/perceptive than we give them credit for. It's also a strong example of a more subdued Phoenix performance, whose well supported by Hoffmann and Norman.

Mitchell Murray said...

Second, and this is the more solemn note, today marks two years since the tragic passing of Chadwick Boseman. At the time of his death, I was admittedly not as familiar with Boseman's non MCU work, and I still haven't seen all of his filmography. That being said, my reverence for the man's acting ability - and more crucially, cultural impact - has only been bolstered since then. And if his "Ma Rainey" performance should indicate anything, it's that he had a lot of untapped potential that we sadly won't be able to see. For what its worth, I hope that people continue to remember what he did and what he stood for in the years to come.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

The lack of a new theme was a bit disappointing (I mean you might not top the original but at least try, or at least do a new arrangement), and I do think the show could use a bit of Tyrion/Bronn/The Hound/Davos style energy somewhere. Even with that, I thought it was another very strong episode in wielding just the politics in such a dynamic way that I think is finding its own life even while obviously using the elements that made the original series work so well. MVP again I'd say was Considine for showing some strong Richard II energy in creating a real sympathy for the troubled and unfortunately frequently inadequate King. Though really thought many had a moment to shine here with Smith, Alcock, Toussaint, Best and Ifans all delivering strong work. The only choice I wasn't so sure about was hearing more of Sonoya Mizuno's accent.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Say your 81 Louis Top 5 Score predictions:
1. John Williams - Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Vangelis - Chariots of Fire
3. Tangerine Dream - Thief
4. Trevor Jones - Excalibur
5. John Carpenter and Alan Howarth - Escape From New York

Luke Higham said...

I believe Vangelis has got it in the bag.

From what I remember there was much more adapted music in Excalibur (Wagner) than original.

Michael McCarthy said...

Not gonna lie, the excessive repetition of Carmina Burana took me RIGHT out of Excalibur.

Matt Mustin said...

It's Williams all the way for me, but I think Louis is gonna go with Vangelis.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your cast, director and decade of release of The Truman Show with James Stewart in the lead role.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these choices for a Japanese Superman movie made in the 60's.

Clark Kent/Superman: Tatsuya Nakadai
Lex Luthor: Masayuki Mori (channeling his performance from The Bad Sleep Well)
Lois Lane: Either Kyoko Kagawa or Michiyo Aratama
Perry White: Koji Mitsui
Jimmy Olsen: Tsutomu Yamazaki
Ma Kent: Kinuyo Tanaka
Pa Kent: Chishu Ryu

Also, for that Kurosawa Batman universe, thoughts on these choices.

Mr. Freeze: Shin Saburi
Poison Ivy: Michiyo Kogure
Rachel Dawes: Either Hideko Takamine or Setsuko Hara
Bane: Tsunagoro Rashomon

Anonymous said...

Louis what are your thoughts on the cinematopgraphy and visual effects of Moby Dick? I swear that film doesn't look like a 1956 film.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

1940's The Truman Show directed by Frank Capra (one man versus a corrupt system is VERY Capra.)

Hannah: Gloria Grahame
Louis: Frank Faylen
Sylvia: Donna Reed
Truman's "Mom": Beulah Bondi
Truman's "Dad": Thomas Mitchell
Talk Show Host: Edward Everett Horton
Christof: Claude Rains

Bryan:

Yes on most particularly Nakadai, Mori and Ryu. I'd lean towards Kagawa. I would say though that would be a waste of Yamazaki and suggest Yuzo Kayama as an alternative. Also no Daisuke Katō as Otis?

Yes on Saburi, Kogure, I'd lean Takamine there, and Rashomon seems the only plausible choice there.

Anonymous:

I mean it is impressive work in terms of what it does alone in the ratio it is working with, as it captures much grandeur and many a crowd even with technically a more isolating view, even if not full non widescreen, still a fairly not wide shot. That is with impressive work in terms of capturing the color vibrancy in terms of lighting.

The visual effects for the time in particular, were quite impressive in creating the whales, especially the titular Dick, and while I wouldn't say he's wholly convincing as a whale, he is convincing as creature, as is the final disaster in his visual depiction.

8000S said...

Louis: Kinda forgot about Otis for whatever reason, but yeah, Kato would be great.

Also, speaking of The Truman Show, have you ever read the original draft written by Niccol? Because it's way, way darker than the final film.

8000S said...

Louis: Also rating and thoughts on Ed Begley Jr. and John Glover in Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.

Those two really took the whole "Remember everyone it's a cartoon" thing to heart. Heck, almost everyone in the Schumacher films does it, even the extras.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: Your director, cast and decade of release of The Good, The Bad, The Weird in versions Japanese and Chinese.

JasonRobards said...

Louis: Thoughts on Fraser's performance in "The Whale". Thanx

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these Oscar-nominated songs?

- “Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)”
- “Flashdance (What a Feeling)”
- “(I’ve Had) The Time of My Life”
- “Footloose”

Luke Higham said...

Lol, it hasn't been shown or released yet.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on The Son teaser trailer.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: I've already seen people joking about how after "The Father" and "The Son", Zeller's next film should be titled "The Holy Spirit"; It's a minor observation, but I found it amusing.

Putting that aside, Zeller already made a visceral, lived in drama with "The Father", and I'm hoping this will be similarly effective. The teaser didn't reveal to much about the actual story/struggles, but the casting alone is promising.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Mitchell: Zeller's third film could also be called "The Grandson"

Louis Morgan said...

Found 3000 Years of Longing to have a few nifty visuals, and some charm in the stories, however they're not quite clever or even just compelling enough even for the film's short runtime. What holds the film back the most is the framing device which I felt landed like a thud. Maybe there's just not enough chemistry between Elba and Swinton, or maybe just it isn't written well enough, particularly in where it goes, leaving me just waiting for the film to end once it fully focused on that aspect. I actually won't say I'm disappointed because I'm sort of indifferent to the other Miller films that aren't Mad Max related anyways and lands right into that category. It's not bereft of decent things, but honestly it's film that probably would work better in watching random clips as the "build" is where it least succeeds.

Elba - 4
Swinton - 3/3.5

8000's:

I have read parts of it, and it is indeed much darker, closer towards a 70's style film in a certain sense, closer to something that Paul Schrader would write and maybe Scorsese would direct. I can't say it would've been worse or better, as so much of a film is in the specific translation especially when it comes to dark and tricky material.

Both of their performance really are the same and it shows you more so the idea of direction over the performances of two typically reliable character actors. Both are too much even for the idea of a cartoon, and really a heightened tone can work, but that's where a director needs to not only make sure the performances hit, their vision needs to support the performances. Schumacher did neither really. Begley is the overly stuffy boss played to more than a 11, and Glover an over the top scientist even for a mad scientist. The tone of both being just too much, but again Schumacher clearly didn't really tell them to be over the top towards being genuinely funny or over the top to be genuinely insane. So the end result is not good.

Shaggy:

Japanese: Kihachi Okamoto 60s:

Good: Shinataro Katsu
Bad: Tatsuya Nakadai
Weird: Toshiro Mifune

Chinese John Woo 90's:

Good: Takeshi Kaneshiro
Bad: Tony Leung
Weird: Chow Yun-Fat

Luke:

Hmmm, here's hoping that the trailer is misleading as that looked more standard than the Father, but it would've been easy to also make a misleading trailer out of the Father (though they didn't). So I think this might've been generalized as this gave me Beautiful Boy vibes in a very general sense. Again not thinking the film will be that, but this wasn't my favorite teaser.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Against All Odds - (Although I don't quite share the South Park sentiment, not the biggest Phil Collins fan, and this is far from his best work. This as I would say falls into a bit of generalized ballad. It does its thing but doesn't really stand out as eighties ballads go, even as it gets a bit more instrumental focused later on doesn't add up to much.)

Flashdance - (I do love me some intense synth backing which this does certainly have in its opening. Once it gets into its main chorus it is a catchy enough of tune though I don't love the later synth alterations so much as I think it falls into a bit of too much of a good thing, though the additional chats are alright.)

I've The Time of My life - (Okay in the actual movie I think it is horrible, because almost other song for the dance scenes in the film is a period fitting song and then suddenly you introduce top 40's best so randomly with instrumentation that is pure late 80's in a film set in the 60's. Outside of it anyways, I don't like it anyways, just I don't know the combination just doesn't hit me in any sweet spot, particularly as it gets to layering of the voices.)

Footloose - (A perfectly fitting dumb song for one of the dumbest movies you'll ever see. This in just the goofiness is really part of the appeal with the wholly random instrumentation here and the aggressively sincere lyrics, which totally work and it is a whole lot of Kenny Loggins fun, that is excellent for dancing. So mission accomplished.)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I saw 3000 Years of Longing as well. I was actually really loving it as an anthology-type story, then Swinton made her first wish and the movie died like a fart in the wind. Wish the whole movie was just the Djinn telling stories.

Also saw Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. I was low-key hating until the conflict kicks into high gear, then it becomes fairly engaging. Rachel Sennott is DEFINITELY the MVP.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I wouldn't worry *too* much, having read it the material as is for The Son is a tougher sell than The Father in terms of promoting so I can see why this one comes across as soap opera-y, but I feel like the final product will be different. I could be wrong, could be a Beautiful Boy, but we will see.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Elba and Swinton.

Anonymous said...

Louis: From the ones you've seen, how would you rank the portrayals of Claudius and Ophelia?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: If in the Chinese version Jackie Chan played the Weird and Jet Li played the Bad which decade, director and actor would play the Good?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

I've watched Hustle (and I'm suprised nobody here so far hasn't mentioned it, actually). It was overall enjoyable and even though it's of slightly lesser sort compared to the rest of... ambitious movies with Adam Sandler, it's still good to see him take his career in a more consistent and promising direction after Uncut Gems.

Sandler-4
Latifah-3.5
Hernangómez-3.5
Foster-3.5
Duvall-3
Edwards-3.5
Smith-3

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Elba - (His storytelling moments are quite well done just from the sort of ethereal, comic yet also human qualities he brings in each recounting. A recounting he delivers with the mystic but still this sort of simple emotional exasperation at the same time. Elba manages to make him a proper genie for the film. Unfortunately his chemistry with Swinton is limited and that is what I think holds his performance back from going further. The spark just isn't there unfortunately.)

Swinton - (I don't know maybe I'm be harder because it's Swinton but I think this is pretty standard kooky work from her. And the major failing of the film is the third act where her performance should most come to life with her interactions with Elba, but they just don't. She's not terrible or anything, but there's nothing notable about her work.)

Anonymous:

Claudius:

Jacobi
MacLachlan
Shaw
Kay Kay Menon
Sydney
Nazvanov
Owen
Drake

Ophelia:

Winslet
Simmons
Ridley
Vertinkskaya
Kapoor
Bonham-Carter
Muller
Marsh
Stiles

Shaggy:

Late 80's, Lau Kar-leung, Donnie Yen.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: If you were judging an actor's yearly body of work, who would be your MVPs from 2010-2021?

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

If we're talking strictly films.

2010: Michelle Williams
2011: Michael Fassbender
2012: Mads Mikkelsen
2013: Matthew McConaughey
2014: Tom Hardy
2015: Tom Hardy
2016: Andrew Garfield
2017: Sally Hawkins
2018: John C. Reilly
2019: Scarlett Johansson
2020: Morfydd Clark
2021: Bradley Cooper

RatedRStar said...

I thought Bodies Bodies Bodies was decent enough until the ending where It felt like a real cop out, gave me real "oh....really...really.. thats the resolution to the mystery that your going with".

Matt Mustin said...

I watched Big Fish yesterday. Wonderful film.

McGregor-4
Finney-4
Crudup-5
Cotillard-3
Lange-3
Buscemi-3.5
DeVito-3.5
Lohman-3
McGrory-3

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: I wish I could match you for film viewings, but I watched the Netflix comedy "Day Shift" last night....and it wasn't particularly great.

If you want to see Snoop Dogg firing a minigun or Scott Adkins once again proving his stuntman chops, the movie has both. Unfortunately, the rest of the film is pretty paint-by-numbers, and isn't nearly as entertaining or funny as it's premise/trailer might suggest. Also, while I do think Jamie Foxx has a certain charm, I'm starting to see what Louis says about him stressing his dramatic moments.

Marcus said...

Louis: How would your yearly MVP list change if you included TV and miniseries performances.

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: Other than the introduction of a certain character who had been built up to through the whole movie, I agree about the ending. Also Myha’la Herrold is tied with Rachel Sennott for film MVP

Matt Mustin said...

Also watched Cruella, which is actually quite enjoyable despite being too long.

Stone-4.5
Seifert-Cleveland-3.5
Thompson-3.5
Fry and Hauser-3.5(PERFECT)
Howell-Baptiste-2.5
Novak-2.5
Strong-3
McCrea-2

Perfectionist said...

Louis: Garfield's 2016 was brilliant. I wish you put him over both Affleck and Gosling(especially) for Hacksaw Ridge. Gosling while pretty good(for the points you made in his review and I genuinely agree with them. I give him a 4.5), would still be a pretty easy number 5 for me in the lineup.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis:your 20 best Liev Schreiber moments?

Mitchell Murray said...

Perfectionist: I'm still one of this blog's biggest supporters for Garfield's "Hacksaw Ridge" performance; The film itself has a lot of talking points/potential issues, but Garfield's portrayal of Doss is so committed and potent, and is frankly the glue holding the bulk of it together.

That being said, I can understand putting him under Affleck and even Gosling. My personal ranking of 2016 would be as follows (and side note: I'm wondering how it'll compare to 2020 when I get around to watching "Sound of Metal")...

1) Mortensen
2) Washington
3) Affleck
4) Garfield
5) Gosling

*all 5's, btw

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, in fairness to Gosling's "La La Land" performance...what else could've he have added as a classic romantic lead? He's charming, funny, smooth, has great chemistry with Stone and even the right emotional depth/internal conflict. Even his singing voice, while not amazing, is more than decent at conveying his character's joy and nuances. I'd also add that Gosling's particularly well cast from the outset, and if I was trying to replace him, there aren't a lot of names that would immediately come to mind.

Perfectionist said...

Mitchell: I agree completely on Garfield. A recent re watch of the movie reminded me how much I love that performance. I also understand putting him under Affleck(he is truly outstanding in Manchester). In fact I originally intended to say that both Garfield and Affleck should be higher than Gosling, but especially Garfield. I really like Gosling in La La Land as I stated in the previous comment that I agree with Louis review of it but I wouldn't give any actor in that role a 5 tbf. In fact, I would go as far as to say Gosling was better in The Nice Guys. My ranking for 2016 would be:
1) Washington(5)
2) Mortensen(5)
3) Garfield(5)
4) Affleck(5)
5) Gosling(4.5)

Robert MacFarlane said...

Yeah, I still hate Hacksaw Ridge and Garfield's performance in it.

Matt Mustin said...

I'd rank 2016 best actor like this:
1. Washington-5
2. Gosling-5
3. Mortensen-5
4. Affleck-4.5
5. Garfield-4.5

If Garfield had been nominated for Silence instead though, this would look different.

Luke Higham said...

Going off topic here, Cate Blanchett is now the heavy favourite to win Best Actress.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Dead For A Dollar trailer. And Bardo's getting mixed to negative responses.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: I had to look up what film you were referring to (I'm presuming it's "TAR"), because the only thing I know Blanchett did this year was her small role from "The Boys" season 3.

Incidentally, I'm not sure if I'm the only person on this blog spot whose seen that show, but it's well worth the watch - particularly for Karl Urban and Antony Starr.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: Yes, the reviews are overwhelmingly positive from Venice.

8000S said...

Louis: Looks like Coppola is going to direct, product and write his sci-fi dream project Megalopolis. Thoughts on this?

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Since I'm here - and I promise this will be the last time I ask this for a while - what would be your thoughts on these rock songs (which much like the last tracks I dropped, I only became aware of fairly recently)?

So Far Away - Red
Failure - Breaking Benjamin
Forever - ONLAP

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

McConaughey would be MVP for 2014.

Ytrewq:

1. Bad Audition - Chuck
2. Wanting the story - Spotlight
3. News of his Wife - Defiance
4. Making Peace - The Ten (Although I've only seen his section)
5. Fighting Ali - Chuck
6. Laertes confronts Hamlet - Hamlet
7. Final words of encouragement - Spotlight
8. Spassky loses - Pawn Sacrifice
9. Celebrating with his brother - Chuck
10. At the bar - The Ten
11. Wanting to "help" - The Sum of All Fears
12. A gift - Spotlight
13. Rock Bottom - Chuck
14. Losing his family again - Spider-man: Into the Spider-Verse
15. The Fight - Goon
16. Meeting Spots - Isle of Dogs
17. Before the final game - Pawn Sacrifice
18. Calming his violence - Defiance
19. Ending - Chuck
20. Duel - Hamlet

Luke:

That cinematography is atrocious and the editing of the trailer is extremely awkward. Sadly Walter Hill isn't someone who hasn't been making movies, he has been, they just have been pretty universally panned. I'd love for this to be his return to form, but just judging from the trailer, it probably isn't.

Not overly surprised about Bardo as Iñárritu for better or worse always goes all in. I wonder if it might get a re-edit before release, though judging that it is Iñárritu he'd probably say this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

though replace "children" with "audience".

And leave it as is.

8000's:

I'm his track record up until this point has by all accounts been very mixed at best, so I'm trepidatious. This is the biggest film he's done in some time, so maybe that will bring more out of him, and at the very least I'm glad he's making one more epic, I hope it is a great one, don't know if it will be, but here's hoping.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I hope there are some hidden gems that suddenly become Oscar contenders like Decision to Leave or Broker, since 2022 is looking shockingly bare bones at the minute, with Rustin and Killers pushed to 2023, and with Bardo underperforming.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top 10 performances in epics?

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, in terms of my movie viewings, I finally watched "House of Gucci" tonight. Although I'm critical on certain aspects of the film, I do think.....it mostly works? Yeah, we'll go with that, because taken as stylized entertainment with obvious dramatic licenses, I can see it's appeal. From a technical perspective, I'm mostly torn with the editing and soundtrack (both can be quite messy/obvious in spots), along with the excessive runtime. Also, there's some obvious issues with the cast's accents and one particular performance, but they didn't hurt the acting to much IMO. I guess my simple take away is that I enjoyed the film - warts and all - and it does help that Maurizio and Patrizia's dynamic is portrayed quite convincingly.

Gaga - 4.5/5 (Yah...this is HER film, and proof that the oscar nomination for "A Star Is Born" was no fluke)

Pacino - 4.5 (Honestly everything you'd expect from late career Pacino; Enjoyably showy, but also with a surprising warmth and pathos)

Driver - 4 (He could've mined a little more complexity in certain moments, but it does absolutely work as a straight forward dramatic turn. Strong chemistry with Gaga too)

Irons - 3 (Not utilized the most and I don't think his accent fully works, but he has some good moments early on)

Hayek - 2.5 (Also not utilized that much, and even then I think more could've been done in the role)

Leto - 2 (His accent is beyond ridiculous, and for being the film's "comic relief", a lot of the lines he's given are just so wrong. I'd be more critical, but some of his silent reactions aren't that bad)

Mitchell Murray said...

Huh...just revisited Louis' reviews for Pacino/Leto, and I'm upping the latter to 2.5/3. I wasn't even thinking about their later scenes together, which are affecting in a strange way....


Damn.... what have I become?

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: Blanchett wasn't in The Boys season 3, AFAIK. Were you thinking of Charlize Theron?

Louis: I'd like to get your thoughts on Bryan Cranston and Anna Gunn's acting in, and Rian Johnson's direction of, this scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9nSgCQmmp0

Mitchell Murray said...

Tony: I'll admit, I was going to pull up a clip to prove you wrong, only to prove myself the fool. I was under the notion Blanchett played the character Crimson Countess, but that was in fact Laurie Holden of "Walking Dead" fame.

Although in my defense, both actresses are almost the same age and have very similar cheek structure/eye colour. Also, Crimson is almost always shown with a partial mask, and since the show did manage to get Theron, its not unreasonable to infer they could've gotten Blanchett.

Calvin Law said...

As far as Bardo's reviews are concerned, in a way another boon to my Decision to Leave hopes.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the direction, screenplay and cinematography of When a Woman Ascends the Stairs.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you've decided to watch it, thoughts on The Rings Of Power premiere.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Do you think Dan Aykroyd would be the good choice to play Leonid Brezhnev in a hyphothetical sequel to Death of Stalin?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: If you've read Octavia Butler's 'Bloodchild', do you think it's possible to adapt in any visual medium?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top ten pieces from Morricone, Williams and Zimmer.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I think you're gonna have to forget about Song as a contender because Broker has just been snubbed by the selection committee.

Anonymous said...

Luke, not automatically Parallel Mother's got snubbed but Cruz got nominated.

Luke Higham said...

Yeah but Cruz had prior history whereas Song hasn't yet made the breakthrough.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Eminem in The Interview?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbqh0vXaRLw

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: Well, this could be that breakthrough.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: I'm good thanks. Though if push comes to shove, maybe I'll put Park Hae-il instead.

No idea why people think Broker was 'snubbed' by the selection committee. Do people not remember what happened when Taiwan tried to submit Lust, Caution when it didn't have enough Taiwan personnel working on the project.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: May I ask, have you started watching Brideshead Revisited.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the House Of The Dragon episode.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Would you say that Kai in Better Call Saul was meant to be a red herring? As in, when he's first introduced, you think he's going to singlehandedly derail the entire "construction project", yet it ends up being the experienced Werner who does so?

Also, your thoughts on the performances of the film school students in the same show.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, I bit some sort of bullet tonight and watched "Being The Ricardos" for the first time. It's not the absolute worst movie I've watched, and there's a interesting story being explored, but at the same time you can see a lot of lost potential. The most pressing technical issue is just a lack of overall flow between scenes; Despite most of the film building through an entire week, I think Sorkin could tightened the script a lot more, thereby increasing the tension and pace. As it stands, there are some strangely underutilized moments that should've been offered a lot more weight, if it weren't for Sorkin's writing style emphasizing the less crucial dialogue. The unfortunate imbalance between the two leads also doesn't help the proceedings.

Bardem - 2.5 (I wanted to like him more, but the points Louis made in his review sadly ring true. I also think it would be refreshing and deserved for him, frankly, to see Bardem perform in his native language again.)
Kidman - 4
Simmons - 3

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Based on the action and character moments, your thoughts on the infiltration/'betrayal' sequence from RRR.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The Whale is getting raves at Venice, and I couldn't be happier for Brendan Fraser. Can't wait to see it.

Luke Higham said...

More so for Fraser, the film itself has been very divisive.

Luke Higham said...

Wouldn't be surprised if he does end up winning in Venice.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: I will say, just from a superficial perspective, I can see how the film's title could automatically rub some people the wrong way - given the subject matter, of course.

That being said, if this ends up being a career revamp for Fraser, I would certainly feel happy for the man after everything he's been through.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: 100% agree, his interviews before his career was on the up again were just heartbreaking to watch. His body language was of a broken man.

Calvin Law said...

Hyped for Fraser. Hong Chau is also getting some good notices, though as noted the film on the whole sounds divisive (I love the play but man is it hard to translate onscreen).

On the Emmys front, Lee You-mi winning for Guest Actress makes me very happy.

Louis Morgan said...

Don't have a lot of time so I'll answer the easier responses at the moment.

Anonymous:

As I've previously stated the definition of epic is slightly too broad.

Tony:

Johnson's direction I think is good, though to be honest it is the writing and acting that sells the scene. Particularly the acting actually here with Gunn and Cranston being so brutally real through the scene of both being at the breaking point. I love Cranston's work in the scene as he shows a lot of old Walter at first, and the beautiful tragedy of the moment of "I tried to save him" being Walt being absolutely truthful yet isn't believed due to his past history. Although wholly segueing naturally to his darker impulse when trying to talk Skyler down with Gunn being equally ferocious in revealing her desperation. Before you see really the mess of Walt as he tries to desperately convince himself by yelling at the family that they're still a family, when the opposite is obviously the case.

Ytrewq:

I could potentially see it.

Tahmeed:

I think it is possible, in fact I'm surprised Cronenberg never tried to make it happen honestly (as it right up his alley in several ways), but doesn't mean I'd particularly love it, though I could see it.

Anonymous:

Strangely enough I believe I have given those thoughts before.

Bryan:

He's 100% a red herring.

I think the film school students do a fine job in being a little broad but not being completely over the top. I think this is particularly important since they're from season 1 on, where again I think Gilligan and crew were allowing the comedy to be just a little too broad at times, though I think they hit the right tone for the series.

Calvin:

Great choice with Lee. Also happy to see Lane take the guest actor win in comedy. Both extremely well deserved.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

I'll admit that even in an event of Fraser winning an Oscar with his performance being not as good as ones of other nominees due to Aronofsky potentially screwing up the movie as a whole, I'll still be happy.

Calvin Law said...

The Banshees of Inisherin getting some raves, all four actors getting high praise, especially Farrell.

Luke Higham said...

That was a given, be very intriguing to see who Louis loves most this time between Gleeson and Farrell.

Luke Higham said...

This probably will be his best picture choice from what I'm reading about it.

Bryan L. said...

I showed Blindspotting to three (3) friends of mine the other day and they liked the movie well-enough…..up until the rap ending. They called it unrealistic, ridiculous and too much of a “theater kid” ending (yes, they know who Daveed Diggs is and took that in mind). One of them also said that it actually peeved him a bit, though he conceded that he may have bought it if there had been more rapping scenes in the film before that.

I should’ve left if as a one-and-done, because those reservations were more glaring this time around (didn’t really mind it the first time). Welp.

Louis Morgan said...

Also the House of Dragon episode was altogether great, Considine MVP again, and the action sequence was stellar.