Friday, 5 August 2022

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1979: Oliver Reed in The Brood

Oliver Reed did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Dr. Hal Raglan in The Brood.

The Brood marks a step in Cronenberg's career, where he doesn't quite achieve a wholly successful horror film, though gets a bit closer than Shivers about a man investigating his wife's strange psychiatrist while brutal murders begin to occur. Where the film suffers is in its bland lead Frank (though I think more so the writing here overall), and the makeup effects not *quite* being there, it's definitely a problem when I started laughing at what is supposed to be a disturbing murder scene. 

Anyway, one advancement offered to Cronenberg was a greater budget and seems like with that Cronenberg used it to bring along two more notable actors in Samantha Eggar as our hero's strange wife Nola going through isolated therapy, and Oliver Reed as her strange doctor. Reed opens the film as we see the doctor's methods firsthand as he "treats" a patient. Dressed in a guru's robe, seated and staring right at the man Reed makes a fascinating first impression. Reed's performance in a way illustrates his unique talent a presence because he is such a ferocious physical presence, yet has such an elegant voice. Here we get this in such a brilliant performance as he "treats" his patient by attacking the man on his said to be feminine qualities. Reed's eyes stare right into the man's soul, honestly similar to the first processing scene later seen in The Master, as Reed has that enigmatic power as the man seems to cut right into the man's mind. Reed's performance is amazing because he manages to be incredibly violent in his deliveries of the insults (seemingly evoking the man's abusive father), but Reed's dulcet voice seems to redirect the energy slightly as though he is performing some kind of therapy still. There is a strange comfort even in the violence and he illustrates this as in the end, he seems to indeed have a breakthrough with the man even after all that had been said. It is a bizarre scene that works because of Reed's performance that does naturally realize Hal's strange methods in tangible ways. What Reed also does with this play with the audience's expectation of his performance as he doesn't allow you to pinpoint what exactly the doctor is, whether is he an evil man or is there some method to this madness. Reed plays with ambiguity so effortlessly as we see him outside of the sphere of performing his therapy as Frank confronts him about his daughter having been hurt after visiting his wife. Reed is quite fascinating in his performance in that every delivery of his is a kind deflection though also calming in his responses. Reed doesn't specify but he alludes to something. Reed's eyes suggest a man knowing far more than he is saying, but doesn't simplify what exactly that is. 

He creates a marvelous idea of perhaps an egomaniac doctor refusing to have his methods questioned or someone dealing with something he isn't quite sure of himself. We occasionally see him in his scenes with Eggar (who is wonderfully bonkers in the role), where Reed shows the doctor playing his role. Reed asking her about her daughter's injuries, though not directly, and is fascinating in that he plays her parent at the moment while also seemingly trying to derive something more from her. Again I think even a lot of the dialogue here works because Reed is so convincing in his portrayal of it, and makes the techniques tangible as odd as they are. Reed is captivating in every one of his scenes whether he is playing directly the form of therapy of the doctor, or the therapist who seems to be hiding much from those questioning him. Reed creates this force to be reckoned with and also an element of this film that consistently works, both being actively compelling in giving these strange ideas some truth in performance, but also by letting you ponder whether he is the true villain of the piece or not. Spoilers he's technically not exactly either hero or villain, but his therapy led to the creation of small sinister creatures that kill Nola's "tormentors". Reed though is great in his final scene where he finally reveals the truth to Frank. Reed shows at this moment the man isn't trying to hide or try anything. His eyes at the moment totally earnest as he looks at Frank in the moment. He speaks now just trying to say everything as an honest statement of the man attempting to make some kind of amends with a regretful tone he brings to the whole moment. Reed is terrific in the film, a film that really with a lesser actor in this role would've been fully goofy I think. Reed though never treats the material as monster shlock, as it could've been treated, offering only a real depth and gravity in realizing both his character and the film's odd scenario. 

58 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast.

Luke Higham said...

And your category and ranking placement for Eggar.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Along with McDowell in Time After Time and Cage in Pig are the most surprising Louis ratings that many people believed they would have 5.

PS: when the movie was over I had a hard time seeing Reed without a mustache or beard.

Perfectionist said...

Honestly on re watching Apocalypse Now two months ago after a long long time, I think Duvall's work in that might be an all timer when it comes to supporting performances. I never expected the performance to be that popular of a winner choice amongst so many blogs, to the point I don't think I have seen a different winner choice for the year. Do you guys on the blog here hold that performance in the same regard?? Or if there's also someone who might have a different choice for the year???

Robert MacFarlane said...

I probably Apocalypse Now a rewatch, but I a firmly Team Holm for this year.

Perfectionist said...

Robert: For me, Holm and Duvall are on par literally. Holm was my original win years ago so not a very easy decision for me to make. If I am talking about my favorite 70s supporting performances, both would be #3 and #4 for me. Interestingly, may I ask who is your choice for 1978, considering Walken is an equally popular choice for that year too. Do you share the same sentiment there??

Anonymous said...

Louis: How would you rank the 10 current highest grossing films of all time as films and what would you give them out of 5 stars?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Perfectionist_ad: It's been over a decade, but I remember liking Walken a lot.

However, my choice is John Vernon in Animal House, and that one is never changing.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: your cast and director for 1970s Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? I would say Terry Gilliam's original lead actor choice in form of Jack Nicholson as Raoul Duke would've been a good idea 20 years earlier given his performance in Easy Rider.

Louis Morgan said...

Watched Bullet Train, which hmmm, I think I might have slightly different percentiles than Tahmeed, but I think my overall feelings would be almost the same. There are some good moments in it. Leitch can certainly direct action (though he should stay away from overt CGI) and I liked some of the performances. And I guess after Gray Man, I'd take a film at least not quite achieving a personality than no personality at all. I think Leitch struggled with the comedy both in terms of direction, but also the script I don't think was quite there. There's a lot of comic setups that don't work, and it's an example of a film thinking it is wittier than it actually is. The plot, particularly in terms of its overall execution, felt very Guy Ritchie, which if you like Ritchie, maybe you'd like that more here, but I don't so I didn't.

Pitt - 3
King - 2
Taylor-Johnson - 3.5
Henry - 3.5
Koji - 3
Sanada - 3.5
"Big Boss" - 2(Don't remember if he was featured in trailers or not)
Ocasio - 2.5
Bullock - 2.5
Beetz - 3
Cameos - (All fell flat in my book.)

Perfectionist:

If we did a vote among commenters, it would probably be a close race between Duvall and Holm (with Duvall probably taking it in the end). Walken I imagine would easily win.

Luke:

Hindle - 2.5(Well at least he's better than Stephen Lack. A more charismatic actor could've brought more, but the part is extremely simple as written. He's never bad he's just always uninteresting, which isn't exactly the same thing.)

Eggar - 4.5(100% supporting. She's wonderfully bonkers as previously stated. I think though she wields this quite effectively. In that in her earlier scenes she manages to balance between complete insanity and a certain degree of sympathy with her performance to create the right sense of the woman as damaged. As the film progresses Eggar tilts her performance more and more towards overtly insane and directly sinister. That is until her final scene where she goes full fledged psychotic ex with her eyes and her complete derangement that I thought Eggar completely went for it, and in turn completely owned the moment.)

Anonymous:

Merged US and Worldwide:

1. Avengers: Infinity War
2. Avengers: Endgame
3. Top Gun: Maverick (Could go to #1 on re-watch)
4. Black Panther
5. The Avengers
6. Spider-man: No Way Home
7. The Force Awakens
8. Furious 7
9. Titanic
10. Avatar
11. Jurassic World
12. The Lion King

Ytrewq:

Sure Nicholson with Antonioni directing and Hector Elizondo as Dr. Gonzo.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: My ratings would almost be the same as yours, had no idea what the point of what anything King was up to both performance and character wise. I've definitely seen a lot less entertaining misfires in this genre, so there's definite points for that.

Thoughts on the casg?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

*cast?

Robert MacFarlane said...

I actually really liked Bullet Train. Feel like it's kind of getting a raw deal.

8000S said...

Louis: What would be your casting choices for the Watergate Senate Committee if they ever make a film about the commitee collecting evidence of the crimes committed by the Nixon administration?

Louis Morgan said...

Also watched Prey, which I wish I could say was great, have to settle for just good. I liked the action in general and Midthunder's performance, and I certainly didn't at all mind the straightforwardness of the narrative. I wish the supporting cast was stronger, that it had been a bit less CGI reliant (particularly when I feel the Predator itself looked much better 35 years ago.) and that there was just a bit more grit to the costumes and production design (maybe not the full Eggers but a bit closer to that). Still overall found it effective.

Midthunder - 4
Beavers - 3
The rest - 2.5 or lower (particularly the trappers who were all atrocious)

Tahmeed:

Pitt - (This is kind of a unique Pitt performance in that often times Pitt is either quite good, or he's boring Pitt. Well he's definitely not the latter here, but he's not the former here either. I liked kind of what he was trying to get to, which I'd say is like Mifune in Sanjuro as the ideal version of this, but I don't quite think he quite gets there here. He certainly tries and I wouldn't say he wholly fails on the flip side of things. It is tough to be kind of disinterested and fed up with the idea of the action yet still be part of it, like again Mifune in Sanjuro who is great, Pitt's not that here, but there are moments where I think he finds it, just not consistently.)

King - (Yeah I don't think she made either side of the role work, didn't believe her as the insidious villain nor the innocent facade. Felt like a put on for the first half and a put on in the wrong way in regards to the other half.)

Taylor-Johnson & Henry - (I will say I wasn't sure about either at first, but as the film went on I actually started to like them more to the point I found their chemistry endearing and overall engaging. And eventually did actually feel some emotion for their characters which surprised me. Both I think do go into it but I found do find the tone. I think what holds both back is again I don't think the material is quite great, but they're doing their utmost to sell it. Taylor-Johnson playing off the more no nonsense again Henry who is more directly nonsensical. Both worked for me in the end, and I think their performances could've been truly great with just some better lines to work with at times.)

Koji - (Decent enough but wholly overshadowed by...)

Sanada - (I mean come on, just comes in brings all the gravitas you would want along with all the tough badassery you'd want as well. Maybe a role you could argue he could do in his sleep, but nonetheless what engaging "sleep" this is then.)

Boss - (I actually did like his look, but didn't find his performance terribly inspired. Actually think he probably should've gone for the full "him" so to speak.)

Ocasio - (I mean really just a physical performance, where he was fine I suppose.)

Bullock - (Thought her VO was fine, didn't really need her to show up though.)

Beetz - (Found her very attractive in that Steward outfit ahh I mean ummm she was good I thought in her bit, in just bringing this sort of wily intensity, would've preferred her to have the bigger role over King.)

Calvin Law said...

I watched both Prey and Bullet Train, and I pretty much agree with Louis on both counts. Between this and Ghost in the Shell, need the Western troublemakers to stay out of Japan unless they're Christian missionaries.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Midthunder and Beavers?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Howard Baker: Leonardo DiCaprio (Just got the greenlight)
Samuel Dash: Daniel Craig
Sam Ervin: John Goodman
Daniel Inouye: Louis Ozawa Changchien
Joseph Montoya: Esai Morales
Herman Talmadge: Campbell Scott
Edward Gurney: Bob Odenkirk
Lowell Weicker: Chris Sullivan
Fred Thompson: Wyatt Russell
Hillary Rodham: Billie Lourd

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this recent SNL Digital Short?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UKbwz6s6VY

Tony Kim said...

Louis - I know your opinion on the recasting of Don Harvey with Pat Healy in BCS, but to play devil's advocate: had Harvey kept playing the role, how do you think Jeff's pathetic/submissive personality would've been conveyed in his portrayal? I understand that you preferred Harvey, but the last 2 episodes has depended on Jeff being a weak-willed man Gene is able to manipulate, and I can't see Harvey being able to pull that off. I mean, Harvey looks like he could beat up Odenkirk with no problem, and for us to buy the events of the last 2 episodes (esp. the scene where Gene threatens Jeff) a less dominant actor like Pat Healy was necessary.

Anonymous said...

Louis, have you seen and given thoughts on Cumberbatch's Richard III performance?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: He hasn't yet but hopefully fairly soon when he gets around to 2016.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, I finished "The Sopranos" last night...and to keep it brief, it lived up to the hype in nearly every conceivable way. As the precursor to so much contemporary television, it succeeds above everything else at showing the lives of some frankly despicable (yet still very human) characters.

And of course, Gandolfini is phenomenal in the lead role and worthy of every accolade he received. I'm glad I finally got on the train with his performance, even if it means missing the big guy all the more.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Midthunder - (A good very straightforward performance overall. She is essential in creating the main tensions by always showing a very real fear and sense of struggle. I think she really earns the strengths of her character by showing the journey of each moment. She's never overly confident or perfect in the moments, and creates the right tension by showing her character to a certain extent just barely making it herself. In turn she builds up to the stronger moments for the character, earning them quite effectively and not overplaying them as overly generic.)

Beavers - (He's okayish, I think he brings enough of the sense of the over brother vibe to the character, but I think if he was a little stronger there would've been more weight in the connection between the two characters. He's not bad but I think even as written there was some potential for a really powerful sense of connection that isn't quite found, though again he's overall fine.)

Bryan:

Well I'll just say The King of Staten Island was indeed too long (also Amadeus was a single VHS, at least my copy was.)

Tony:

Well to be fair I'd believe many actors could physically intimidate Odenkirk (nothing against the guy, and kudos to him for overcoming that in Nobody). I don't think either episode was so flawless that I wouldn't want anything changed about them to begin with, so there's that. More so how the character is written did make me think they might've lied about the reason for the re-cast as Healey's version of Jeff is very easy to read, where Harvey's was very ambiguous. Personally I think if the character was kept as a bit harder to read it could've created more tension, though it probably would've required somewhat different script to suit Harvey's take, I think the general purpose of the episodes could've been supported. Again I think both episodes have been good, but I'd be lying to say they're up there at the highest (Saul/Breaking Bad) standard. I think if you had a more unpredictable foil, maybe it would've achieved that standard for me.

Marcus said...

Louis: Could I get your thoughts on this two minute scene from 'Black-ish', and Anderson's performance in it?

https://youtu.be/SwcychAm--s

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Atmospheres music piece by Gyorgy Ligeti.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: If you didn't give them before, your thoughts on Catelyn's story about Jon Snow? Fairley's delivery of 'Because I couldn't love a motherless child' always gets me.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your ranking of the swords-and-sandals epics that you’ve seen.

Also, although she technically portrayed Janet Leigh on film, how do you think Scarlett Johansson would fare in the role of Norma Crane?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Is Dean a 4 or 4.5 for Giant, and can he go up?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: He's a 4. Given his thoughts on him there, I don't think he'll go up any further.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Dean's my supporting win for that year, hope he gets upgraded.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: what are your thoughts on the ending of The Killing Fields? Curious if you agree the ending needledrop of Imagine is maybe a tad bit on the nose, but Waterston and Ngor are so brilliant in that reunion that it doesn't really matter and hits the emotional notes so powerfully anyway.

8000S said...

Saw Flowing from Mikio Naruse and A Wife Confesses from Yasuzo Masumura, both pretty good movies IMO. Not sure exactly if I would give a 5 or a 4,5 for Yamada, probably leaning on a 4,5. Same with Wakao.

Luke: Aside from these performances, make sure you add Kyo in Odd Obsession for 1959 in that list of yours. I'm assuming you already have her performance from Floating Weeds on that list for female performances for Louis to watch.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello Louis and folks.
Now that Killers of the Flower Moon has been delayed, I think it's time for us to update our 2023 Oscar predictions in the main categories:

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
The Banshees of Inisherin
She Said
The Son
White Noise
Women Talking

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Bardo
Babylon
Empire of Light Everything
Everywhere All at Once
The Fabelmans

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Jessie Buckley - Women Talking
Patricia Clarkson - She Said
Laura Dern - The Son
Vanessa Kirby - The Son
Michelle Williams - The Fabelmans

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Don Cheadle - White Noise
Paul Dano - The Fabelmans
Brendan Gleeson - The Banshees of Inisherin
Woody Harrelson - Triangle of Sadness
Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All at Once

LEAD ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - TÁR
Ana de Armas - Blonde
Frances McDormand - Women Talking
Carey Mulligan or Zoe Kazan - She Said
Michelle Yeoh - Everything Everywhere All at Once

LEAD ACTOR
Austin Butler - Elvis
Colman Domingo - Rustin
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Song Kang ho - Broker
Hugh Jackman - The Son

DIRECTOR
Damien Chazelle - Babylon
Alejandro González Iñárritu - Bardo
Sam Mendes - Empire of Light
Sarah Polley - Women Talking
Steven Spielberg - The Fabelmans

PICTURE
Babylon
Bardo
Empire of Light
Women Talking
The Fabelmans
The Son
Everything Everywhere All at Once
The Banshees of Inisherin
She Said
White Noise or Top Gun - Maverick (If the Academy nominates a blockbuster blockbuster then I hope it chooses the best of the year so far)

Matt Mustin said...

Banshees of Inisherin is for sure original, isn't it?

Bryan L. said...

Matt: Although it kinda does seem like one of his plays, it is original. McDonagh wrote it for the screen.

Luke Higham said...

8000S: They'll be in the films to watch list when we get to that year.

I'm currently doing 2010 on my Backlog list. I won't be sending/publishing it until after the second set of alternates are complete.

Luke Higham said...

I'll send it to Louis as well if he wants by email or I might make a blog post out of it.

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

I'll admit there's a degree of aversion I have for the network tv "very special episode" tone regardless of the issue they might be tackling. Having said that Anderson does certainly give a very earnest and passionate presentation of the moment.

8000's:

Again not an original piece, though I could tell you about how it is used in 2001.

Bryan:

Early Johansson, not all that well, current Johansson though I could definitely see it.

Sword and Sandals:

1. Ben-Hur
2. Spartacus
3. The Last Temptation of Christ
4. Gladiator
5. The Ten Commandments
6. The Life of Brian
7. Julius Caesar (1953)
8. Jason and the Argonauts
9. Clash of the Titans
10. Titus
11. The Greatest Story Ever Told
12. Cesar and Cleopatra
13. 300
14. Conan the Barbarian
15. The Passion of the Christ
16. The Fall of the Roman Empire
17. The Robe
18. The Bible: In the Beginning
19. A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
20. Troy
21. Hercules (1997)
22. Julius Caesar (1970)
23. Cleopatra
24. Quo Vadis
25. Conan the Destroyer
26. Pompeii
27. Caligula

Tahmeed:

I know I have at some point.

Calvin:

In terms of the embrace of the two characters, completely earned in my view from just how hard the rest of the film is. I don't think Imagine was an appropriate choice for the scene in terms of thematic context around Dith Pran's escape from the genocide however. In that while I don't think John Lennon was advocating for Pol Pot's desired non-religious "utopia" that helped to fuel his genocide, the song is about the desire for a non-religious utopia. So not ideal.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Since it's still fresh in my mind, what would be your thoughts on the "Pine Barrens" episode from "The Sopranos"?

For whatever reason, that particular episode has stuck with me - not due to it's emotional or thematic power (there are several candidates for that title), but rather for the comedy mined from Paulie and Chris being trapped in the wild.

Bryan L. said...

Mitchell: You can find his thoughts on that episode in Jesse Eisenbergs' review for The Double.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on 'Right Hand Man', 'The Story of Tonight' and its reprise from Hamilton?

Anonymous said...

Louis, how would you rank the five Best Actor-nominated performances that you ranked as number one in the past five years?

2017: Daniel Day-Lewis in Phantom Thread
2018: Willem Dafoe in At Eternity's Gate
2019: Adam Driver in Marriage Story
2020: Anthony Hopkins in The Father
2021: Benedict Cumberbatch in The Power of the Dog

Marcus said...

Louis: Any chance of Washington going up the 2016 overall (at least over Mortensen)?

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the "Your men died very well" and "You can go to hell" scenes from Paths of Glory.

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: Funny you should mention "The Father", because I finally watched it this morning after so much time.

I'll admit, I was hesitant to see the film because I knew it would be one of the most depressing movies of my recent memory. Also, the subject matter is very real and personal for myself, and it's often hard to separate such emotion when trying to look at a film critically. Now that I've watched the movie, however, I can firstly concur with the praise it's received, as well as it being hard to describe in a way that properly expresses its power. The biggest technical success - in my opinion - is that it completely brings you into Anthony's state of mind; the decisions made in editing, structure and characters make you feel less like a fly on the wall, and more like your experiencing this man's mental deterioration first hand. Of course, the performances and writing are also top notch, and even the people viewed through our protagonist's perspective are offered a certain depth overall.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, now that I've seen Hopkins, that just leaves Ahmed for 2020's best actor race. My ranking thus far would be as followed...

1) Hopkins
2) Boseman
3) Yeun
4) Oldman

Not to agree so thoroughly with Louis' evaluation, but in this case I can't help but follow suit. They're all great as far as I'm concerned, and I'll admit the write ups for Boseman and Oldman made me appreciate their work even more.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Before Louis publishes the last supporting post, tell me your Alien cast ranking:
1. Holm
2. Cartwright
3. Kotto
4. Hurt
5. Weaver
6. Stanton
7. Skerritt

Perfectionist said...

Honestly, since some people here have mentioned 2020 leading category, I want to say that Ahmed might be my win now for Sound Of Metal overall(probably unpopular here since Hopkins' performance deservedly has huge fans). But I REALLY loved Ahmed's performance. Really respect that entire lineup. I am also growing equally fond of Yeun's work too. My lineup would look like Ahmed, Hopkins, Yeun, Lindo, Boseman(sorry Mads).

Perfectionist said...

Maybe a re watch of The Father changes my mind again, and probably same goes for Mikkelsen in Another Round and maybe he replaces Boseman in my lineup. The other 4 are easily my top 4.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Olivia Newton-John

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Olivia Newton-John

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP Olivia Newton John

Michael McCarthy said...

Aw man, RIP Olivia Newton-John

RatedRStar said...

RIP Olivia Newton-John

Maciej said...

RIP Olivia Newton-John

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

1. Hopkins
2. Day-Lewis
3. Cumberbatch
4. Driver
5. Dafoe

Marcus:

Not overly likely.

8000's:

One of my favorite scenes in general, and testament to why it was a shame that Kubrick became so dispassionate in some regards later on. The scene itself actually is truly centered upon Menjou's General Broulard who is the most evil character in the film even over Mireau who in a way has some delusion about duty. Broulard entirely only cares about advancement and politics, from a commendation on the executions as though it were a great stage performance of some kind. Boulard's then dismissal of Mireau is almost with this boyish glee as though it is all indeed just fun and games. Dax coming in though is extremely cathartic even if in a way hopeless and has two of Kirk Douglas's best moments as an actor period. The first being his angry build up to lashing out with his "you can go to hell" that honestly is one of the most satisfying releases of a pent up emotion in the film as finally states bluntly against the insanity of the inhumanity. Just as powerful though is Douglas's quiet moment at the end where Boulard barely stays insulted and just is baffled by Dax caring about his men. Douglas's very quiet and somber "I pity you" is heartbreaking because it shows Dax's humanity even in examining a madman like Boulard's complete inability to understand the most basic elements of humanity.










RIP Olivia Newton-John

Razor said...

RIP Olivia Newton-John