Keith Carradine and Powers Boothe did not receive an Oscar nominations for portraying Private First Class Spencer & Corporal Charles Hardin respectively in Southern Comfort.
Southern Comfort from Walter Hill is about a group of Army National Guard who come afoul of some backwoods locals via a mistake that leads to violence. A largely effective film, though the very end feels a bit rushed.
Keith Carradine is probably one of the most underrated leading men of his era, offering such a unique offbeat charisma to his role. Ideal then for the role of a national guardsman who finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. Carradine plays the anti-establishment soldier, although here quite different in that he's not the typical army or anywhere near a traditional warzone. Carradine delivers instead a more casual sort of roughish energy to his performance as the character introduces himself by remarking, not too positively, on some of his fellow soldiers from the country. Carradine's performance creates the right sense of a man who is a bit dismissive, but actually not too dismissive. Fittingly Carradine shows the man making the joke, but given what they're there for is technically a training game, there isn't too much seriousness to even his dismissiveness. Carradine though expresses the nature of the man as someone who seems to have a good head on his shoulders even if his eyes denote a certain sly sense of humor at the same time. Powers Boothe, who just might have one of the greatest names known to man, was a particularly reliable character actor. Here he is kind of sort of the co-star of Carradine providing a terrific contrast yet also similarity. Powers's innate presence is that of a striking strength, and here he brings that with a stoic command. He differs a bit though in that he shows also shows a man who isn't all that much of a believer in his fellow soldiers, Hardin differs as a transferred soldier, but his manner is more of exasperation towards nonsense rather than the jovial approach we see with Hardin.
Both do what is essential for this narrative and completely accentuate the sensible nature of each man in these early interactions, even when Hardin turns down Spencer's offered opportunity for meeting a prostitute, it is with just a blunt deliver of a man who has his specific moral stances and doesn't need to preach about them, he just believes in them. Carradine on the other hand though just still presents a man in Spencer who finds his little ways to enjoy life whenever he can, in whatever way he can. The two emphasize that these men as likable and more than anything reasonable even as they are separate in what makes them different. Boothe and Carradine create a great dynamic by Carradine being the off-the-books potential hero and Boothe being the by-the-books man. This is in contrast to their fellow soldiers who are as much of the source of the trouble as are the locals who return fire against the soldiers, after one of the soldiers foolishly, though jokingly, shot blanks at them. With the first casualty being their CO, we get the breakdown and in this we get the sides forming of the soldiers who want to meet the violence with violence, those in the middle who have no idea what to do, and Spencer and Hardin. Boothe and Carradine again are terrific here in taking you from too many making their way in this pretty low-stakes situation and instantly bringing you into the high-stakes situation. Their reactions are both just completely honest in emphasizing the sudden horror and disbelief of the situation. Each man just showing in their eyes reason more than anything. Walter Hill is in a way often a director of few words, and oftentimes very much relies on the actor to convey a lot. Luckily here he has both Carradine and Boothe who bring you right into the reality of the situation and these two men.
Both Boothe and Carradine are fantastic in creating in each moment a subtle shift essentially in each man due to the immediate danger of their situation. One is just the two men coming to an understanding basically because both see each other as sensible. I love Boothe's just straightforward delivery of this message and Carradine's almost surprised but understanding reaction just realizes the two men so well in the moment of solidarity through sanity. Each man shifts through in his character so effectively and naturally as the situation becomes direr. Boothe presents a hardening and greater gritty conviction. The certain exasperation is gone in his eyes he shows the determination of the man to survive but also does what is right. Carradine on the other hand gradually loses that casualness that defined his early scenes. Finding instead this internalized power of someone basically finding their strength in the situation. His delivery becomes tenser, his eyes becoming that much more ensured, even with a sense of fear, of showing that in a way the best of Spencer comes from the worst of the situation. Each has to take extreme measures to go. We see that in Spencer taking charge as much as he can and Carradine wielding power in desperation so potently. With Boothe, we see this righteous, and honestly righteous conviction as he fights to the death to save a local. Boothe is great at the moment in just exuding the sense of certainty in the man's eyes as he fights for the man, not for any love or anything, but just because it is what is right. All at the same time the two are so good in just crafting a sense of understanding between the two that grows towards a greater sense of connection. There isn't too much time spent on this, again it's by Hill, but it is all in their performance. This is to the point that by the final sequence you see each man wholly have that connected sense with each other as they try to survive, both actors also pulling you as the audience into their plight. Every moment is given proper resonance and visceral connection by their performance that give life both to their characters and to the situation. The best compliment I can give actually is that both Boothe and Carradine succeed in not making either of their characters seem underwritten. They rather wholly thrive within the film's style and each gives a hero you can root for, Carradine in crafting a charming rogue and Boothe making for a proper strong silent type.
162 comments:
1. Heard
2. Serrault
3. Irons
4. Carradine
5. Neill
Yeah, pretty much my thoughts on both leads and the film, which is good but not great.
Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.
Louis: What are some Greek orRoman mythological tales/legends that you think can be adapted well today?
1. Heard
2. Serrault
3. Carradine
4. Irons
5. Neill
Louis: Is it safe to say that 1979 has the closest margin between your top two films of the year?
Louis: there won't be an update of the My Nominations page with Scheider?
Anonymous: Give him time on that.
Marcus:
I mean I think you could take ideas from any and adapt them, but to answer your question:
Theseus and the Minotaur
Myth of Leto
The Aeneid
Luke:
Ward - 3(As one of the bad soldiers gives a decently pig headed performance though he never is the focus to the point that he make too much of an impression.)
James - 3.5(Effectively mysterious in his manner of not quite sure of whether he is hostile or not. He naturally creates this ambiguous quality until his scene where we see exactly the nature of the character which James delivers with great confidence.)
Everyone else is more or less fine.
Tahmeed:
Yes, and to answer the previous comment by Anonymous from last post, best picture/#1 is usually the easiest decision in a given year, as it is always whatever film gives me the most complete experience, now what that means per film is different, but the exact feeling I have after watching the film is very specific. Rare do I have that feeling twice per year, sometimes it does happen, 79 is one instance of such.
Hey guys!
Tell us your ranks of 1981 nominees in each category:
Song
1. "For Your Eyes Only" - For Your Eyes Only
2. "Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do)" - Arthur
3. "The First Time It Happens" - The Great Muppet Caper
4. "One More Hour" - Ragtime
5. "Endless Love" - Endless Love
Original Score
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Chariots of Fire
3. Dragonslayer
4. Ragtime
5. On Golden Pond
Sound
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Pennies From Heaven
3. Outland
4. Reds
5. On Golden Pond
Editing
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Chariots of Fire
3. The French Lieutenant's Woman
4. Reds
5. On Golden Pond
Special Visual Effects
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Dragonslayer
Costume
1. Chariots of Fire
2. Ragtime
3. Pennies From Heaven
4. Reds
5. The French Lieutenant's Woman
Art Direction
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Heaven's Gate
3. Ragtime
4. Reds
5. The French Lieutenant's Woman
Cinematography
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Excalibur
3. Reds
4. On Golden Pond
5. Ragtime
Foreign Language Film
1. Mephisto (Hungary)
2. Man of Iron (Poland)
3. Three Brothers (Italy)
4. Muddy River (Japan)
5. The Boat Is Full (Switzerland)
Adapted Screenplay
1. Pennies From Heaven
2. Prince of the City
3. Ragtime
4. On Golden Pond
5. The French Lieutenant's Woman
Original Screenplay
1. Chariots of Fire
2. Atlantic City
3. Reds
4. Absence of Malice
5. Arthur
Supporting Actress
1. Joan Hackett
2. Elizabeth McGovern
3. Maureen Stapleton
4. Melinda Dillon
5. Jane Fonda
Supporting Actor
1. John Gielgud
2. Ian Holm
3. Howard E. Rollins Jr.
4. Jack Nicholson
5. James Coco
Lead Actress
1. Marsha Mason
2. Meryl Streep
3. Susan Sarandon
4. Diane Keaton
5. Katharine Hepburn
Lead Actor
1. Dudley Moore
2. Burt Lancaster
3. Henry Fonda
4. Paul Newman
5. Warren Beatty
Director
1. Steven Spielberg
2. Hugh Hudson
3. Warren Beatty
4. Louis Malle
5. Mark Rydell
Picture
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Chariots of Fire
3. Reds
4. Atlantic City
5. On Golden Pond
And what are your ranks?
Am I the only one who loves Thief's score? I know it was hated at the time, but it's my favorite thing about the movie.
Robert: I like it a lot as well, though any synth-based score gets an automatic headstart from me.
Louis: When did you started considering The Godfather part 2 to be even better than the first one?? When you wrote Pacino's review for it, you clearly preferred the first movie. Now few reviews prior, I remember you saying how you now prefer the second one. So can it possibly get higher spot on your 1974 movie rankings then??
1. Serrault
2. Heard
3. Carradine
4. Neill
5. Irons
1. Heard
2. Serrault
3. Irons
4. Carradine
5. Neill
Luke, your Best Director predictions for 1981
In no particular order:
Hugh Hudson - Chariots Of Fire
Steven Spielberg - Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Peter Weir - Gallipoli (Winner)
Brian De Palma - Blow Out
Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot
Alt. John Boorman - Excalibur
Perfectionist:
As long as a I can remember honestly, to the point I don't even recall writing that part of Pacino's review. And the problem with 74 for me is I consider all of my top 4 there to be masterpieces, but not impossible for the masterpieces to be shuffled in some way.
Robert:
I've eased up on it since Prosky's review.
Louis: Your thoughts on Martin Brest as a filmmaker.
1.Heard
2.Serrault
3.Irons
4.Carradine
5.Neill
Bryan:
Well his script for Going in Style was quite good in a low key way, that examined a rather difficult topic powerfully funneled seemingly through just a simple concept of the elderly deciding to become bank robbers. Past that, and including that, I'd say he is a workman director with an above average sense for comedy. Although even with the latter he typically does through performances, though he has the good sense to leave it to his performers and facilitate them properly. There isn't anything about his work otherwise that is extraordinary other than knowing how to facilitate a good script like with Midnight Run, or letting actors do their thing with Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run and to an extent Scent of a Woman. He directs in a very straightforward way, and all his films visually are very straightforward and again really it is all about the performances and the script. Brest didn't get in the way of the material but I don't think he really elevated it beyond a certain point. In turn when he got serious and had an inferior script in Meet Joe Black he made a pretty bad film. Then Gigli happened, which I haven't watched but I'll take everyone's consensus on it.
Louis: Yeah, I'm surprised you hated it originally since it basically paved the way for Cliff Martinez.
Louis: Your thoughts on Kazuo Miyagawa's work in Sansho the Bailiff and The Crucified Lovers.
1. Serrault
2. Heard
3. Irons
4. Neill
5. Carradine
1. Heard
2. Serrault
3. Irons
4. Neill
5. Carradine
Did anyone else make the connection to how Saul reacted to Burnett's "I trusted you" to Jimmy's remorse about Irene Landry's ostracization in season 3?
Louis: your thoughts on the score and sound design of Nope?
Louis: your past and present movie roles for Albert Brooks and Tim Curry?
Louis: Aside from Don't Look Up, your least favourite 'issues' films?
1) Serrault
2) Irons
3) Heard
4) Neill
5) Carradine
8000's:
I mean the suicide shot in Sansho honestly is one of the most unforgettable shots in film...period. The work is so impeccably composed though with this specific purpose which crafts this sort of isolating distance of the figures that while the world it shows us is beautiful, it is also very grey and often uncompromising. It never seems comforting and that too is the limited use of closeups and often framing shots to leave us as the observer unable to help those caught into the frame in this cruel world. A cruel world that is both ethereal through the cinematography but also painfully tangible.
The titular shot is one that is so bluntly disturbing with the lighting choice emphasizing this with the lovers bathed in darkness but the method of their death wholly lit. Beyond that the work in general is far more comfortable than Sansho, in that there is warmth in the central relationship and often we do actually get some glow in those moments. This is within a world that is often bleak yet so beautifully framed and composed once again.
Calvin:
The score is some terrific work that I would say is most parts John Williams (doing 70's Spielberg) mixed in what I would say is Elmer Bernstein at his most triumphant if you listen to anything involving Yeun's character that is some pretty fascinating work with just how overly spirited it is. The rest very Jawsesque with some Close Encounters in playing towards a more dissonate often unpleasant, though in the right way quality that is unnerving, and later on builds beautifully the tension. That is until the Winkin' Well that is really pulling out all the stops as Abels goes for that Williams pull of going hand in the hand with the action to raise the climax. That is before swapping for some good old Morricone style to lead things out. Definitely influenced work, but in the right way.
The sound design is a highlight of the film, and it is a shame that it is likely to be ignored wholly. The mix is extremely immersive in the early scenes in playing much more quietly with little noises and a sense of place that is most effective. Later on becoming much more overtly dramatic and effectively so. The sound editing though is what is truly amazing here with the work around the abduction scene and all the subsequent scenes I found to be the most horrifying element in the film particularly with that sort of bleeding together screams from a distance.
Ytrewq:
Tim Curry:
Sweeney Todd
The Emcee (Cabaret)
Thenardier
Albert Brooks:
Howard Ratner or Arno
Sol Nazerman
C.C. Baxter
Anonymous:
Ship of Fools
Crash
Beautiful Boy
Hillbilly Elegy
Lean on Pete
Killer: A Journal of Murderer
Pay It Forward
some ideas i had:
Up In The Air 2020s Directed by Lorene Scafaria
Ryan Bingham: Ryan Gosling
Natalie: Jessica Rothe
Alex: Jennifer Lopez
Craig: Elijah Wood (think Eternal Sunshine)
Maynard Finch: Kevin Costner
When Harry Met Sally 2000s Directed by Karan Johar (the names would be changed though)
Harry: Shah Rukh Khan
Sally: Preity Zinda
Marie: Rani Mukherji
Jess: Saif Ali Khan
Leaving Las Vegas 2000s Directed by Darren Aronofsky
Ben: Jim Carrey
Sera: Charlize Theron
Thoughts?
Louis: Have you watched any 2022 releases lately.
Louis: For a 2020s Arthur, how do you think Martin Freeman would fare in the title role?
And for a late 2010s All That Jazz, Christian Bale as “Joe Gideon”?
Gonna need to think about the Better Call Saul finale. A lot to take in. Extraordinary work from Odenkirk, as always.
Better Call Saul Finale wasn't Breaking Bad's, but I didn't expect it to be. For the lower key show it is a lower key finale. I'm not sure the plot mechanics entirely added up (though not to some truly detrimental degree) but it worked so well on the emotional level, with Odenkirk delivering perhaps his greatest work in the role.
Tim:
Have no interest in further Up in the Air, but that's an appropriate cast.
Sure from what I have seen with Harry Met Sally.
Like Carrey and Theron, but keep Aronofsky away from me.
Bryan:
I don't really see Martin pulling off the playboy vibe, he has a more internalized kind of charm, I think you need a bigger one with Arthur.
I see the drive with Bale, but not entirely sure on the smarmy charm. For some unknown reason I think Sam Rockwell would be ideal.
Louis: I was purposefully trying to think of an outside-the-box choice for Gideon, but fair enough.
For Arthur, maybe give Simon Pegg a shot then?
Louis: When you have time, your cast ranking for Better Call Saul season 6, and also your ranking for the entire show.
Anonymous: Well, just speaking for me, I will say that Rhea Seehorn is my overall series MVP.
Louis: Your 2022 TV top tens so far.
Don't know if I can fully say I loved the BCS finale since it's the end of my favorite show (in a "it's now gone forever" kinda way), but I truly enjoyed it.
I have to agree with some of the plot intricacies being maybe a little wonky, (and maybe one or two callbacks being just a bit too in the nose), but it all felt perfectly appropriate in the end. Have to agree with MVP too.
If you all don't mind me, I'm gonna proceed to mourn the show by stuffing my face with cinammon.
Pretty much a perfect finale for me, I think.
Looks like the Academy finally apologized to Sacheen Littlefeather for the abuse she suffered back in 1973. Good.
1. Heard
2. Serrault
3. Irons
4. Carradine
5. Neill
R.I.P. Wolfgang Petersen
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
Damn, I just watched Das Boot for the first time the other day……..
R.I.P. Mr. Petersen
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
Wow just now
Just now during the review of 81, I wasn't referring to Bryan.
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
Louis: Thoughts on the production design and costume design of Vertigo.
R.I.P. Wolfgang Petersen
Anonymous:
Season 6:
1. Rhea Seehorn
2. Bob Odenkirk
3. Michael Mando
4. Tony Dalton
5. Patrick Fabian
6. Giancarlo Esposito
7. Jonathan Banks
8. Carol Burnett
9. Tina Parker
10. Sandrine Holt
11. Betsy Brandt
12. Peter Diseth
13. Ed Begley Jr.
14. Mark Margolis
15. Dennis Boutsikaris
16. Lavell Crawford
17. Aaron Paul
18. Bryan Cranston
19. Michael McKean
20. Javier Grajeda
21. Daniel and Luis Moncada
22. Steven Bauer
23. Lennie Loftin
24. Josh Fadem
25. Hayley Holmes
26. Ray Campbell
27. Jeremiah Bitsui
28. Pat Healy
29. Jeremy Shamos
30. Julie Ann Emery
Show:
1. Rhea Seehorn
2. Michael McKean
3. Bob Odenkirk
4. Michael Mando
5. Jonathan Banks
6. Tony Dalton
7. Mark Margolis
8. Giancarlo Esposito
9. Patrick Fabian
10. Rainer Bock
11. Raymond Cruz
12. Tina Parker
13. Ed Begley Jr.
14. Dennis Boutsikaris
15. Lavell Crawford
16. Carol Burnett
17. Sandrine Holt
18. Betsy Brandt
19. Ann Cusack
20. Don Harvey
21. Barry Corbin
22. Rex Linn
23. Dean Norris
24. Steven Michael Quezada
25. Peter Diseth
26. Aaron Paul
27. Bryan Cranston
28. Jim Beaver
29. Javier Grajeda
30. Daniel and Luis Moncada
31. Steven Bauer
32. Kerry Condon
33. Mel Rodriguez
34. Eileen Fogarty
35. Lennie Loftin
36. Josh Fadem
37. Hayley Holmes
38. Ray Campbell
39. Jeremiah Bitsui
40. Pat Healy
41. Jeremy Shamos
42. Laura Fraser
43. Julie Ann Emery
44. Steven Ogg
45. Mark Proksch
Marcus:
I'm currently in the middle of a couple shows so ask again in like 2 weeks.
Bryan:
I always think Pegg is underestimated in general, so maybe, though Matt Berry would be my #1 choice.
RIP Wolfgang Petersen, guess I best make time for a Das Boot re-watch.
I'd put put Paul a good way lower than Cranston personally.
Matt:
For me both did basic reprises, not anything special (particularly in regards to their histories with the parts) but did the job. Paul though I will say obviously showed more of his age.
For me Cranston did a good job of finding where specifically Walt was in his transformation whereas Paul just did sort of generalized and slightly overdone Jesse mannerisms. But I don't know, I also don't feel like it was wholly necessary to have them in there at all.
Matt:
I agree they were fairly perfunctory anyways. The best Breaking Bad related flashbacks I felt were the Banks ones, aka the guy who already was the series regular.
Better Call Saul was an excellent show and the finale was certainly decent if not sensational. I always found that the weakest bits of the series were the direct links to Breaking Bad, so in that sense the relatively BB heavy final episode was a little compromised. BCS stood on its own and didn’t need to hark back to Walter White et al. (Also, as it’s the best part of a decade since I watched BB it’s really hard to remember plot elements and characters - I wasn’t even sure who Betsy Brandt was at first!).
The business with Saul initially planning to testify against Kim but really it was just a lure to bring her to the courtroom was a bit contrived. And surely the civil action against her could still continue?
It was good to see Michael McKean again, Chuck was such a great character. I think his courtroom meltdown was one of the series’ highlights.
Overall though it was another great season of BCS which deserves a place in the pantheon of great TV. (Better than BB overall in my opinion).
Louis what do you prefer Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul?
8000's:
The production design obviously is a combination of some excellent on location choices with some great sets that I think are essential in that there is no disconnect between the locations and then when it goes to the set. They naturally segue from one another. This including making a model of the tower to do the famous zoom.
The costume design is all sleek chic work for the time overall, but one has to mention the gray wool suit, that is so distinct and iconic. It is a fascinating choice in particularly because it isn't a naturally vibrant color, in a film filled with them, and it is the grey that makes it stand out brilliantly because of that.
Anonymous:
Breaking Bad, if I was only considering the late seasons of Saul it would be closer, but it is easy to forget that Saul took a bit to get its footings. Mark Proksch and The Kettlemans suggested I think they were attempting a bit overly broad comedy (even compared to say Badger) to differentiate itself from Bad, which they thankfully basically rid themselves of later.
I will say that Mark Proksch in hilarious on What We Do in the Shadows and he's kinda doing the same type of thing, so maybe his style of comedy just wasn't right for this show rather than him actually being truly bad.
Matt:
He is indeed, and it goes to prove that performance is all contextual.
I'm trying to think of what my top 15 performances would look like if I took Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and El Camino as one giant entity. I think:
1. Aaron Paul
2. Jonathan Banks
3. Rhea Seehorn
4. Bryan Cranston
5. Michael McKean
6. Dean Norris
7. Michael Mando
8. Tony Dalton
9. Giancarlo Esposito
10. Bob Odenkirk
11. Patrick Fabian
12. Jesse Plemons
13. Anna Gunn
14. Robert Forster
15. Betsy Brandt (I always thought her work as Marie was underrated in the last season)
Louis: Can I give you a fun suggestion? When Heard's analysis arrives, it could come along with Russell (Escape from New York), to be the post of the guys with an eye patch in 81.
Louis: Thoughts on The Greatest Beer Run Ever trailer.
Luke:
When just reading the synopsis I would've thought potential for a satire. Instead looks very um Green Bookesque, so beware of Oscar contention, but didn't look terribly convincing to me in its earnest attempt here to do some sort of Vietnam commentary with some kind of comedy I guess (although I didn't hate the "non important" bits of Green Book, so maybe there will be something I don't dislike).
Also in regards to 2022, I'll be giving a full rundown on Sunday when I'll be returning to 81.
I guess this would be my cast ranking for the final Better Call Saul season, taken as a whole.
1. Rhea Seehorn
2. Bob Odenkirk
3. Michael Mando
4. Tony Dalton
5. Patrick Fabian
6. Jonathan Banks
7. Giancarlo Esposito
8. Carol Burnett
9. Tina Parker
10. Betsy Brandt
11. Sandrine Holt
12. Ed Begley Jr.
13. Mark Margolis
14. Steven Bauer
15. Bryan Cranston
16. Peter Diseth
17. Lavell Crawford
18. Michael McKean
19. Kevin Sussman
20. Daniel and Luis Moncada
21. Jim O'Heir
21. Aaron Paul
22. Josh Fadem
23. Hayley Holmes
24. Pat Healey
25. Jeremy Shamos
26. Julie Ann Emery
Don't even remember Campbell and Bitsui being in this season.
Oh, put Reed Diamond between Sussman and the Moncadas.
So, this is a lighter note, but I did re-watch "My Cousin Vinny" tonight - which had it's 30th anniversary in March of this year!
I'd happily say that, aside from a few select gags, the entertainment of the film has held up pretty well. It's selling point is obviously the pairing of Pesci (in the prime of his career) and Tomei, and I must say the latter's performance is still one of my favourite supporting actress wins that I've seen. The accent, energy and sheer charm really works, but she's also helped by her chemistry with Pesci, and them granting an honest believability and tension to the central romance.
I know I'm sort of beating a horse with this one, but let me once again praise Tomei's win in the same vein as Kevin Kline's - that being a fully successful comedic performance that beat the academy's odds.
I actually really like what I saw of Efron and especially Crowe in that Beer Run trailer in the breezy bits. Unfortunately it looks like Farrelly will once again try to tackle tough heavy topics, so I suspect it will be a misfire.
Zefron looks like he’s gonna be fun in Beer Run, but I’m terrified of the cultural impact this movie will have.
Since Rustin got moved to next year, what are everybody's current best actor predictions.
Adam Driver - White Noise
Austin Butler - Elvis
Bill Nighy - Living
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Hugh Jackman - The Son (Winner)
Alt. Christian Bale - Amsterdam
I don't have any current predictions except that Austin Butler is a sure thing.
Matt: I have yet to seen the film, but I'm still trying to process that Tex from OUATIH is now playing Elvis...
For clarification, I'm not overly familiar with Butler's work, but I knew he looked familiar from the trailers. And when I found out who he played in the Tarantino film, I was legitimately taken aback.
Mitchell: When you factor in what the hell he he ended up doing just a few years ago in Yoga Hosers, he sure has received a major power upgrade.
I really wanted Song Kang-ho (Broker) to be nominated. Only for Academy to correct the mistake of snubbing him for Parasite.
Matt: I’m betting Butler gets a SAG nod and maybe even wins the Globe for Comedy/Musical actor, but misses out on an Oscar nod.
I’m like 80% positive Butler is going to win. Because if I’ve learned anything over the last few years, it’s don’t underestimate impressions of dead boomer icons taking the gold. (Though Butler is better than most of them. Got to admit he’s had a surprising amount if staying power with me).
Louis: Your thoughts on the banquet scene and the sequence regarding the assassination of the Great Lord from Throne of Blood, as well as the scene from Tokyo Twilight where Takako confronts her mother after Akiko's death.
Everyone: Also, since I haven't asked a music related question here in a while...what would be everyone's thoughts on these songs, all of which I discovered fairly recently?
Still I Know - Relentless Flood
Get Me Out - No Resolve
Gorgeous Nightmare - Escape the Fate
And for any Anime fans out there...thoughts on the third opening for "Mob Psycho 100" (season premieres later this year)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viOzQNX9ea8&ab_channel=Anicrad
1.Heard
2.Serrault
3.Irons
4.Carradine
5.Neill
Louis: Your thoughts on the Family Guy scene about the Godfather 'insisting upon itself'?
https://youtu.be/0pnwE_Oy5WI
Mitchell: Loved the visuals, which has always been fantastic in all the opening and ending sequences. Unlike the first two though, didn't find the song that engaging by itself.
Louis: What do you think are some interesting animated double feature combinations? (preferably between films from different countries or studios). A few I thought of were:
Belle/Ralph Breaks the Internet (just to compare one masterful commentary on the Internet to one which isn't)
The Wind Rises/UP
Persepolis/Spirited Away
Whisper of the Heart/Tangled
Luke:
Austin Butler - Elvis
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Kelvin Harrison Jr. - Chevalier
Hugh Jackman - The Son
Park Hae-il - Decision to Leave (hush, let me dream)
Robert:
Yeah I don't think Butler will get the Egerton treatment, and could win, particularly since he's likely to be going against actors not playing real life figures (something that you do have to take as a legit benefit in terms of increasing one's winner chances).
8000's:
It is actually interesting in the murder scenes of Throne of Blood, other the final sequence which is so viscerally real, is that there is a certain ethereal quality as though it is Washizu experiencing a nightmare, and the ghost in this version is an extension of that. Particularly with the eerie nature of Miki's ghost who is more passive in his appearance than many versions and so powerful in this approach.
A fascinating scene for Ozu because it is more traditional melodrama, something it was rare for him to peddle in, but in that you see an entirely different approach. It doesn't feel like an obvious confrontation rather there is this assumed and shared pain about the moment even in the reaction of the absentee mother.
Marcus:
Essentially "it's pretensions" aka the most tiresome of criticisms.
Tahmeed:
Bambi/Princess Mononoke
Grave of the Fireflies/When the Wind Blows
101 Dalmatians/Isle of Dogs
Calvin:
At this venture I feel Song is more likely than Park, as he at least he has the Cannes win and due to Parasite's best picture win, the academy should at least have some awareness of him. Of course never trust the acting branch anyways.
Louis: Your thoughts on the ending of Rashomon. Even if it's a hopeful ending for such a cynical and pessimistic film, I absolutely love it.
Mitchell:
Still I Know - never heard of this band but it honestly sounds really good. Although the text and melody sound like a tyspical TFK or Nine Lashes song and the background music reminds me more of, like, Disturbed. Doesn't completely fit, but not a big problem. Also, Spotify has TERRIBLE lyrics for this song. Pretty much every line is wrong. Who wrote that?
Get Me Out - also found this one some weeks ago, and it's pretty great. Well sung, nice chorus, overall really good. I just recently found out about No Resolve and i like them all the more the more i listen to them. Their cover of Bad Habits is fantastic.
Gorgeous Nightmare - not a big fan of this band, but this song is mostly good. Especially the guitar part. I like it all, except the "I feel so alive" part in the chorus, that is not my thing
On another note, i saw the movie Flightplan, the film where Jodie Foster's daughter disappears on a plane.
And i have a question for everyone: what would be the biggest difference in quality between two lead performances in the same movie you have ever seen?
Because i just found my answer. Foster is as Foster does, but Peter Saarsgard playing the Sky Marshal was a magical kind of terrible. The problem is, he almost kind of works in the first 20 minutes (but not completely). But afterwards keeps on going with a hilariously uninterested presence and a constant look like he was on drugs. Seriously, his eyes are perpetually half-closed. And it gets worse with every scene, to the point that it's laughable.
The film itself began good, but destroyed every suspension of disbelief once the actual events are revealed. That mixed with some over the top directing choices made it really not a fun watch.
Foster - 4.5/5 (this performance deserves a better movie)
Saarsgard - 1.5/2
Bean - 2.5
Beahan - 2
Tim: I predominantly agree with your assessment, and ll take your word in regards to Spotify - I still listen to most of my music via youtube.
Also, like a lot of music, I first heard "Gorgeous Nightmare" through an AMV. In this case, it was a tribute to Aizen from "Bleach" (linked below) which has half a million views and is rather well edited. Side Note: I'm basically familiar with Aizen and his powers, but I didn't know his butterfly form literally tore his face in half - that's pretty wicked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9wNobHYXg&ab_channel=Eppolinchen
Tim: For performance gaps....one example I can think of is Felicity Huffman and Kevin Zegers in "Transamerica"; the former was good, but the latter I don't remember liking as much.
Also, this didn't occur to me on my first viewing, but one of the biggest acting gaps I remember is Jeremy Renner's scene with James Jordan in "Wind River". Beyond that, there are many films where I like one lead more than the other, but it's not a notable difference in most cases.
Tim: Easy answer, Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts in The Pope of Greenwich Village. Rourke is so good that he makes Roberts tolerable in their scenes together simply knowing EXACTLY how to play off of him.
I watched The Notebook last night. I think my cast ratings will give you a pretty good idea of what I thought of it.
Gosling-2.5
McAdams-2.5
Garner-4
Rowlands-4
Matt: I’ve actually thought about checking out The Notebook just for Gosling, to see if he’s legitimately good and makes the most of the material.
(Not that he wasn’t a bad actor back then or anything).
Bryan: He doesn't.
Bryan: I think it's fair to say that, with the exception of "The Believer", Gosling's pre-2006 output isn't quite on par with his later work.
Honestly, it was with "Half Nelson" that the Gosling we know today - the charming yet quietly poignant dramatic actor - was fully established.
Matt: If you haven't seen Stay, please continue never seeing it.
Louis: Thoughts on David Zaslav thoroughly fucking HBO Max with a hacksaw?
8000's:
The perfect ending actually in that it provides the viewer themselves with a choice. Do you take the story of the death of the samurai as the nature of man, self-serving, pitiful, lustful, greedy, hateful etc. as the truth or do you take the story of the woodcutter being selfless in the end, taking the abandoned child as his own and looking to a literal brighter future while supporting the priest's better ideals as the truth. It you're choice, the film manages to be both optimistic and pessimistic in the best possible way (one of the many reasons it is an all time favorite of mine.)
Tim:
I'll co-sign The Pope of Greenwich Village.
I'd add DDL vs. DiCaprio - Gangs of New York and James Woods vs. Robert Sean Leonard - Killer: A Journal of Murder.
Robert:
There's so much to say honestly on this one. I think on one end it should be slightly expected that there was going to be pull back on all the streaming services after such rampant and probably reckless spending. Additionally it is merely the status quo for WB to seemingly change midstream every time there seems to be any difficulty whatsoever. Having said that, this has to be one of the most extreme shifts I've seen. In that it went from fully embracing the service with the day-and-date releases to Zaslav coming in and just brutally cutting projects and, even worse I think, already existing content just to avoid paying royalties. Usually with media corporate cutting is more artfully done but this is about as blunt as gets in clearing just taking the hatchet to "costs". Disheartening particularly since I have to say HBOmax was one of my preferred services because of the strength of the content with new movies, shows and a lot of great classics as well. It also was doing well, but I guess not well enough...or there may be even cynical of tactics that cut anything that does not do anything more than amazing or just look for ways to pinch every penny except for the CEO's salary of course (as it sounds like Zaslav did with Discovery+ which had far fewer subscribers than HBOMax). I get that how streaming services were handling spending before wasn't sustainable, but what's going here seems to be a lot deeper than that. It also goes to show one can never trust that content on a streaming service is going to stay on it.
Matt:Thanks for saying that actually, as I had The Notebook recommended to me some time ago and I wasn't particularly interested by the whole premise. Now it truly seems that this cake isn't worth the candle.
Louis: Thoughts on the scene where the woodcutter is walking through the forest. The movement of the camera on that scene alone is enough to give Miyagawa the win for cinematography for that year.
Also, do you think the woodcutter was telling the true story, or do you also take the film as "pick the story you prefer"?
Louis: Your 2022 roundup with thoughts on the films and ratings for the casts.
Luke, what's your favorite film of 2022 so far
Anonymous: Not what I believe is the majority pick in Everything Everywhere All At Once but mine would be The Northman. That film is very much my cup of tea and from initial reactions, I think it's Louis' favourite too.
Late to this, but I've spent the past few days thinking about the Better Call Saul finale. A beautiful and poignant ending that not only stuck the landing, but elevated the entire series in my eyes. If Felina ended Breaking Bad on a bang, Saul Gone ended BCS on a long sigh, looking back on where we've been and what can be done moving forward. It thematically resolved both BCS and BB on a note that was both dark and hopeful: you can't go back and change the past, but that doesn't mean you can't change your future. Your past mistakes can't be undone. Nothing is going to raise Howard, Chuck, Mike, Hank etc. back from the dead, but you can accept and own up to the actions that you have taken that led to these consequences, and come to a point where you can be at peace with what you've done - even if it's at a great cost.
Odenkirk did his best acting on the show (and of his career, of course), shifting personas from the weaselly Saul Goodman to vulnerable and introspective Jimmy McGill, while still making his personalities feel like the distinct sides of the same human being. He was beautifully played off of as always by the moving Rhea Seehorn, whose silent facial acting in the courtroom scene I'd say was even better than her performance in Waterworks.
I don't know that I'd say I have a firm preference between this and its predecessor (which I'll need to fully rewatch). But this finale cemented Better Call Saul, even if it was never quite as addictively entertaining as Breaking Bad, as being the more thoughtful and challenging morality play.
Well, in regards to my movie viewings, I watched 2012's "Killing Them Softly" tonight...a film so overtly anti-capitalist that it could be referenced in the dictionary's definition of the term.
From a technical perspective, though, I do think the movie's story could've been told in half an hour, but is padded to an hour and a half. It's not subtle - or especially unique/intelligent, to be frank - but at the same time, the cinematography and performances save it from being wholly forgettable. The fact that Gandolfini, Shepard and Liotta are no longer with us also gives the film (or at least their characters) a certain poignancy.
Louis: If you've seen it, thoughts on the House Of The Dragon premiere episode.
8000's:
The walking scene is essentially what directing is in its bluntest action in that it is theoretically a simple scene of someone walking, but it is all the sense of the environment and the day within the walk that creates such a vivid atmosphere that makes it special.
The woodcutter's story is of course also compromised due to having stolen the knife, so I don't think his is the truth either, and I think it would defeat part of the story to say that was the truth as an important aspect of the tale is that a single observance is unlikely to fully grasp such an event.
Luke:
Good Luck, Leo Grande I found to be a compelling dual character study for the first two thirds of the film, then I found it fell into cheaper melodrama that I think was less convincing. It didn't become terrible to me, but it lessen the overall impact a bit.
Thompson - 4.5
McCormack - 4.5
Benediction I found to be slightly below average Terence Davies in that there are such moments of potent inspiration in-between some more staid scenes of kind of generalized interaction. Think it is one that would be helped by a bit more focus, but again it is very Davies in that sense. When it focused most distinctly on the more emotional journey of Sassoon as a poet, it was at is best, when it got caught up into all his interpersonal relationships became a bit less interesting.
Lowden - 4
Capaldi - 4
Beale - 3
Irvine - 3
Phillips - 3
Daniels - 3.5
Lynch - 2.5
Lesser - 3
Goulding - 2.5
RRR I rather enjoyed as basically a variety show type of film in terms of what it throws at you in depicting its story with a decidedly flamboyant and over the top way, that worked for me and managed to sustain itself in its rather long runtime. This includes even the musical sequences which I rather loved here. The only major criticism I have is I wish they had made at least one British a half way decent villain, as they were all pretty one note and never felt like a proper menace because of that.
I'd rather see the Telugu version at some point to fully evaluate Rao and Charan's performances.
Crimes of the Future is Cronenberg's best film since Eastern Promises, unfortunately that means it's only better than 3 mediocre to bad films. I think Cronenberg is best when he has at least one clear sliver of humanity and some kind of narrative thrust. This film doesn't have much of either it is instead basically Cronenberg just being weird, though I'll say at least it seems he has a sense of humor this time around. And there is some entertainment to be found in the more cheeky tone here, but not enough for me to call it more than a mild success.
Mortensen - 4
Seydoux - 4
Stewart - 4
McKellar - 3.5
Speedman - 3
The Black Phone I found to be bogged down by bad acting and what felt like filler. There is something in the central concept that is decent, and something that goes along with it that is the best part of the film. Not enough though to make up for very thin characters (including classic Steven King one note bullies brought to life now by his son) and just never *that* compelling of thriller elements.
Thames - 2
McGraw - 2
Davies - 2
Ransone - 1.5
I kind of hated Resurrection despite having a strong central performance from Rebecca Hall once again. The film itself though I thought was another damn example of a horror film where the filmmaker basically is yelling "IT"S ALL THE SUBTEXT AND SYMBOLISM" screw that, write a good story that has great subtext and symbolism, don't depend on it. That was the case here for me, and wasted a decent setup for basically doing the same thing we got with Garland's Men, right down to having almost the EXACT same body horror visual in its dumb ending.
Hall - 4.5
Roth - 3.5
Kaufman - 2.5
Esper - 2.5
Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris, I thought was a low key charming film. Pretty straight forward as such, but enjoyed it as such.
Manville - 4.5
Huppert - 3.5
Wilson - 3
Isaacs - 3
Bravo - 3
Thomas - 3
The Phantom of the Open hit me in the feel good sweet spot in the best of ways. Just found everything about it immensely charming. The only thing I'd say I wasn't quite sure of was two visual flights of fancy, however the one for Maurice's first professional shot was so great, that I didn't mind the others. Just an absolute delight for me.
Hawkins - 4
Ifans - 3.5
Davies - 3.5
Leesx2 - 3
Note: Was able to watch the next two due to my friend in South Korea hooking me up.
I adored Broker in just about every way. Just found it incredible moving and poignant tale of a very unlikely exploration of family that should be very dark, yet never feels as such just by the tenderness in the execution of it, that also somehow never feels forced as such.
Gang - 4.5
Bae - 5
Lee Ji-eun - 5
Lee Joo-young - 3.5
Im - 3.5
Kang - 3.5
And finally Decision to Leave, which I'm pretty sure I absolutely loved, but I feel like I need to watch one more time just because there is so much to take in. Park goes all in here with his style which may not be for all, but certainly worked for me in creating this sort of particular emotional thrust that put you into the mind of the detective who can't sleep yet is completely emotionally taken into this strange mystery. Found it all absolutely captivating.
Tang - 5
Lee - 4
Go - 3.5
Kim - 3
Louis: Can I have your category placements for your 4.5s and 5s as well as your saves.
And thoughts on:
Thompson/McCormack
Lowden/Capaldi
Mortensen/Seydoux/Stewart
Hall
Manville
Hawkins
Gang/Bae/Lee-Ji-eun
Tang/Lee
I'm pleased Rylance redeemed himself with 2 great turns this year.
So glad you loved Broker and Decision to Leave, and the 5's for Bae, IU and Tang. I can't wait for Song and Park's reviews.
As for categories, I feel like for Broker my placement would be Song/Gang/IU all as co-leads, though my guess for Neon is that they might run everyone in supporting which I wouldn't even necessarily classify as category fraud.
Luke:
Thompson - (Her performance is essential to the film working at all as there are so many qualities of her character, particularly later on in the film, that would make you absolutely hate the character to the point of becoming unwatchable. Thankfully being that it is played by Thompson this assuaged by her natural a charm. A charm that she actually kind of hides away just enough here to create a more repressed woman than is usually the Thompson we know typically. In that she gives a moving portrayal of a woman basically twisted into knots of her intense insecurities which she manages to reveal while being both moving and with the appropriate degree of humor.)
McCormack - (A performance that is essentially getting you to look past the obvious as well as you take the performer in the way as the character as this kind of handsome "boy toy" type. McCormack though even in that example is excellent in the early scenes of portraying his character's unique charm of basically saying whatever he can to be as appealing as possible and manages to do it in a way that creates the sense of the façade of it while also being wholly convincing all the same. As the film goes on he effectively pulls that all away to give quite the captivating portrayal of the character's own certain desperations that he hides behind that confidence.)
Lowden - (His best moments are the ones that are when the film are at his best. That is rather powerful recitation of the various poems and the moments where we just bluntly see his anguish when dealing with what he has gone through with the war. The scenes of his just personal interactions are all fine, but just less captivating overall. It is a good performance in those moments, but like the film there is an innate inconsistency to it.)
Capaldi - (It is a shame that the film really doesn't really use him all that much because I found him rather captivating in his intense depiction of Sassoon's more introspective quality as an older man and his desire for his conversion. He creates a potent sense of the man seeming to try to discover some truth for himself despite his naysaying son. It is a good performance even if underutilized overall.)
Mortensen - (I mean the deal of his character I understood but I never quite think they made his character enough a part of the story in a certain sense. Mortensen though even as such I did like the sort of humanity he could portray in his part to the extent he was allowed. Again I think the film is held back because his character is a bit too enigmatic and really passive script wise. Mortensen is good though with what he has.)
Seydoux - (I mean she has some enjoyable weirdness and while there is a part of her typical colder manner she does get to mix it up a bit in portraying the weirdness we get from her in her bigger scenes of "performance". There I thought her performance was at its best and created a certain demented quality that was rather enjoyable.)
Stewart - (I honestly feel like she almost a gave a parody of herself with the timid voice and breathiness, or at least a parody of imitations of her. Whatever it is it works though in creating an entertaining off-beat energy though I actually wish we had gotten a bit more of her character.)
Hall - (Hall is innately likable which helps in creating this character that I think doesn't have the best writing behind her, being a bunch vague generalized ideas about what trauma can do to someone. Hall though is fantastic in terms of granting a genuine weight and gravity to every aspect of this. Hall as well manages to be convincing in creating the sense of hostility that naturally springs from the paranoia that is as essentially the defense mechanism. She makes it all work and is quite effortlessly compelling even when the film is far from it.)
Manville - (Enjoyable to see her in a very different role for her as she is not the typically suffering person nor the very cold one. Here she just gets to be genuinely charming in a very endearing modest way. Manville pulls that off with ease and she in many ways is what makes the film work. This in that she delivers really every big moment or small moment with such honesty that she manages to move the film past cloying to genuine in so many moments, and just delivers every line with such natural ease that she makes them work so well.)
Hawkins - (Just quietly charming work from her with a nice natural chemistry with Rylance as his support and occasional co-conspirator. She really delivers on just bringing such a sincerity in their interactions with such a positive warmth in all their moments together.)
Gang - (His performance is wonderful in creating this sort of reflections of connections of someone who was left without a family initially. His performance creating such a powerful sense of a natural urge to connect actually and to craft that connection whenever possible. As with basically all the performances in the film though there is just a great natural chemistry to his work that is so essential to the success of the film. That is all the central parties are great together in creating this sense of connection between them, and Gang is great as kind of the modest soul of the group.)
Lee Ji-eun - (Her performance I'll be slightly vague about because there is much her character goes through. I'll say though Lee is fantastic in slowly unraveling every single bit of the character in terms of revealing what it that each piece means to her and what every relationship is or isn't to her. Her performance is great piece of really restraint that slowly reveals itself towards the truths of her and it is an absolutely brilliant revelation to see throughout the film.)
Bae - (She's great in consistently so tangibly creating the two sides of her character. That is on one end she's great, even with a certain low key straight man humor in her work, as the no nonsense seemingly uncompromising cop. She has this innate toughness to her presence and just this sort of directness that is wonderfully handled by Bae. This is contrast to all the moments where we see her basically "off-duty" where there is so much sincerity and warmth to her performance. What is great though about Bae work is those moments don't feel disconnected from the other side of the performance. She rather shows the way the woman is able to faction off the different sides as she needs to perform her job even if there is a very loving person beneath it all. Bae making such a poignant impact though both as the hard-bitten cop and the much sweeter person beneath that.)
I won't touch Tang since so much of the film is unraveling the enigma of her character but she's great.
Lee - (She's a wonderful "boring" wife in that I loved that she really doesn't overplay the seemingly overbearing qualities of the character. She is actually very endearing in many ways of how she plays her moments to the point she makes you understand the central character's wavering eye, but also makes you understand why he shouldn't be so wavering. In that she brings this great normalcy to her performance that I think is just right for the part, particularly in contrast to what Tang is doing.)
I'd actually say Song, Gang, Lee Ji-eun and Bae are all leading (the latter having plenty of personal perspective time to make it feel like her story as well). Although since it is a four lead film, I think going pure ensemble isn't something I'd argue too much with. I don't only because I think there is a very clear separation of focus from those four to everyone else.
Tang is co-lead in my book (though definitely the secondary lead).
Regarding House of the Dragon, I thought that was a pretty strong first episode. Harkens back to season 1 of thrones mostly in the right ways, and thought overall it was a return to what made the original show so compelling. Not every character jumped out just yet, but I think it is only fair to give time for characters to grow on you. And while this didn't have any of that season 8 stink on it, the dramatic reference to the long night does make one wish that wasn't such a colossal nothing.
Considine MVP, who I thought was altogether great. Most of the cast I thought was solid enough, though not sure about Matt Smith, but I'll give him time. I will say I thought Milly Alcock was wonderful, and it is a bit of a shame that it seems she's going to be re-cast for the sake of aging up the character.
Louis: Aside from The Northman, Broker and Decision To Leave, which 2 films would make your current top 5 for the year.
Luke:
Top Gun and EEAAO.
Louis and Calvin, is Ethan Hawke lead or supporting in The Black Phone.
Supporting, he's actually in the film far less than you'd expect.
A few days ago, I watched Pitfall from Hiroshi Teshigahara. Such a strange movie, but I loved it. It has a little bit of everything, supernatural and surreal elements, black humor and even a bit of social commentary. Great cinematography as always by Hiroshi Segawa.
1962 is truly the best year ever for cinema.
Hey guys
I want to make a new quiz series with every new blog post. Today I want to ask about Louis' Top 5 Best Photography prediction:
1. Russell Boyd - Gallipoli
2. Douglas Slocombe - Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Gordon Willis - Pennies From Heaven
4. Vilmos Zsigmond - Blow Out
5. Jost Vacano - Das Boot
Anonymous: Hawke is in it for maybe 15 minutes altogether.
I'd be surprised if Thief isn't in the top 5 for Cinematography
Shaggy:
1. Pennies From Heaven
2. Thief
3. Raiders of the Lost Ark
4. Excalibur
5. Blow Out
Louis: thoughts on Decision to Leave's prospects for the Oscars? It's obviously the International FIlm submission (though even a shortlist is far from a guarantee the way these things tend to work). And I do think there's a narrative for this to snag the international director slot for Park (for my money's worth I think this might be his best directed film), and for editing, but obviously massive dark horses for both.
Louis: Thoughts on the 3.5's, Scott Speedman, Grace Kaufman and the cast of the Black Phone.
Louis - What are your thoughts on the themes explored in Better Call Saul, and how they relate to the same themes in Breaking Bad? What were your thoughts on Peter Gould's direction of Saul Gone?
Calvin:
Well it is interesting in that this is the first time a Park film is the submission for Korea (I think The Handmaiden probably would've got in given it won the BAFTA). And at the moment I'd say it is the buzziest international feature, at the moment, so that helps. I will say important to note, the last 4 international feature winners were best director nominees. If that was just Roma and Parasite, I'd think less of it but since Vinterberg and Hamaguchi got in I think it is becoming a clearer statement from the directors' branch that if film is the best film out of all films not in English, it deserves further recognition. The writers branch last year shared a similar sentiment. I hope we see this trend continue, and if we do Decision to Leave is poised at the moment to benefit. In the best case scenario I think it could get director/screenplay maybe picture like Drive My Car. I have zero faith in the actors branch unless Park or Tang sweep the critics (Song being theoretical competition only complicates any chances further). I think cinematography could happen regardless of its overall success, editing less so despite the amount of flash in that department. It helps also that the film has the violence level more comparable to JSA than the Vengeance Trilogy or The Handmaiden.
On the other hand I love Park, but he's definitely divisive. In some ways this is a more accessible film from him (though less so than JSA) but it is definitely a Park film. But hey, I'll be hopeful because I really didn't think Bong had a chance and he won the whole thing. Maybe the three Korean kings will follow in the footsteps of the "Three Amigos", you never know for sure. I'd love to see it.
Anonymous:
Daniels - (Sadly his story is really cut needlessly short, I get there was already a film on it, but I think there was still plenty of potency there with Daniels certainly being striking within his bit.)
McKellar - (Enjoyed his bit of weirdness he brought with this kind of zealous quality carefully mixed into his manner as though he is just a straight forward scientific type.)
Speedman - (There's an emotional potency in moments of his performance unfortunately his character is just too poorly developed to matter.)
Roth - (Effectively creepy though I think the film makes a major mistake in instantly revealing any potential mystery as the moment he handles the ambiguous note is great, unfortunately it then simplifies the character to one note, though Roth plays the note well.)
Kaufman - (Mainly just a poorly defined character, didn't hate her work or anything but seemed like a missed opportunity.)
Huppert - (I mean Huppert playing a pompous ice queen, what's not to like.)
Ifans - (Quite enjoyable in playing a pompous jerk and acts as a good foil for Rylance.)
Davies - (Found he realized his arc fairly well in creating the sense of embarrassment and pride that slowly segues towards shame for his behavior then eventual understanding. Well realized even if he isn't always the focus.)
Lee - (Overshadowed overall by Bae but she is good in her own way in just being the lighter contrast against Bae's seeming harder edge.)
Im - (Just a ball of fun really and brings a great naturalism in his interactions as they are.)
Kang - (Appreciated that he didn't go way overboard that could've created an unneeded melodrama instead is just convincing in portraying a more vile sort in the business.)
Go - (Brings the appropriate contrasting crassness and sloppiness in a way that contrasts effectively against Park's performance.)
Thames - (Sometimes I'm just baffled by praise big time here where people thought this was so great. He carries the same expression almost throughout the film and the only time he switches are moments that feel quite forced to say the least.)
McGraw - (Okay the whole swearing she's given just feels so ridiculous. The writing in those moments is just terrible but at the same time she can't sell them either. Honestly her performance just is too broad yet in a weird way not broad enough, and there the script/direction is more to blame that a child performance. I do think there's moments where something could've been salvaged but as is this is a lot overacting.)
Davies - (Bad father routine done without anything interesting about it, just over the top.)
Ransone - (Completely out of whack tonally with the film as his performance is 100% goofy and ill-fitting to the material. Every moment he's onscreen he's just ridiculous, and ridiculous even for his idiot cokehead character. Again though goes to the weaknesses of the film that the "comic relief" is so out of whack in a film that is about child murders.)
Tony:
I mean if you take the main theme of both which is the the theoretical descent of one man, which are very different between Jimmy and Walt. Walt being a man driven by ego and pride, where his descent really is so much on his willingness to sidestep morality to prove something about himself in such a twisted way in the end, as it always is about himself right until the very end. Contrast that to Jimmy whose nature actually is somewhat morally onerous, just with lower stakes, as Slippin' Jimmy is that, and in a way he's looking for acceptance with his faults (Chuck was never wrong about Jimmy.) We then see how that is explored as in a way Kim and Chuck could temper Jimmy through their love, but they could've never fully changed him. His descent though coming just from losing those to temper him. The strongest connection maybe between the two is Jimmy was never doing for the money (more so of the thrill around the money, right down to him choosing to work with Walt) and Walt really wasn't either, indeed just for what earning the money did for his pride.
Anyway I could go on as both films are rich with thematic exploration of their characters.
Again Tv direction is very different in most visual language was pre-setup here in the "future" scenes and their black and white aesthetic against the color scenes of the few flashbacks. Still consistently strong work particularly in terms of facilitating the performance moments. The big sort of more visual, or perhaps audio moment, that I did love was the build of the "better call Saul" chant as though a build up for a great king.
Completely agree on the cinematography of Decision to Leave actually, given that I think The Handmaiden, had it gotten into International Feature shortlist at least, would've possibly gotten some traction in cinematography and costumes like The Grandmaster did. We'll see.
Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from Stray Dog.
"The baseball game sequence"
"Murakami roaming through Tokyo"
"Tailing Ogin"
"Murakami and Sato interrogate Honda's moll"
"Sato gets shot"
Louis: When you get to 1998, can you put my Caine request into the Supporting lineup as I firmly believe he's a borderline case of Co-Lead/Supporting. The film is focused mainly on Horrocks.
Louis: your thoughts on the score to Broker? I think it's the most I've ever seen Kore-eda rely on an original film score for a film and I thought it really worked wonders especially for the ending sequence (and of course, I'm guessing you adored that certain needledrop in reference to one of your favourite 1990s films).
8000's:
The baseball game sequence is just brilliance in directing by Kurosawa and writing by Kurosawa and crew. You get wholly the sense of the excitement of the game however wound up with the investigation within it. In fact the specific sense of atmosphere of a game, I'd say is one of the best depicted on film and that isn't even the main goal. We also get in terms of the writing the two approaches with Sato's deliberate idea set up and Murakami trying to find a way to hasten it all.
Both roaming through Tokyo and tailing Ogin are great sequences of Kurosawa showing his direction of the environment being so detailed and such a sense of place. Why I'll disagree with Kurosawa himself is the plot is always present in these moments and the sense of character of the dogged rookie trying to prove himself in such a tough situation.
Calvin:
It's a beautiful score by Jung Jae-il and side note it is such a shame that he was completely ignored for his Parasite score. I would agree it is the most present score so to speak that I've seen from Kore-eda, and I'd actually say this is the least Kore-edaish film I've seen in some of the techniques (particularly in terms of the specific momentum of the plot), though thematically it is 100% one of his films. It is a beautiful score though with its accentuation on acoustic instrumentation (mostly piano and guitar) that gives it a nice natural feeling. That making it when Jung brings in more of a orchestral sweep it stands out towards the end of the film. Blending brilliantly really the very pleasant with also the innately dramatic. Fantastic work which Kore-eda uses again very directly here though quite effectively here to amplify his journey.
And yes, I adored that particular inclusion.
There may not be a baseball-based masterpiece yet, but I’m at glad there’s a great film with a key baseball scene in it at least.
Bryan L: You haven't seen Stray Dog yet?
8000s: Oh, I’ve seen it. Just sort of echoing Louis’s thoughts on that scene and a baseball-film discussion on here from awhile back.
Louis: In case you haven't yet, your thoughts on Adam McKay as a director and screenwriter. One of the worst mistakes someone ever made was telling him that he was a "serious" filmmaker.
Talk about an insufferable and obnoxious filmmaker.
8000S: Giving him an Oscar was the worst thing that couldn have happened with him.
Louis: Thoughts on the “Empire of Light” teaser?
8000's:
I think if you take the interrogation scene and the Sato getting shot scene, you get an idea of the brilliance of Kurosawa in microcosm. In he isn't a director who boxed himself into a corner. The former scene is one where he keeps a pretty straight shot because he knows the actors and the material will sell the moment more than anything and they do. It is also great with just how we see Shimura's portrayal of Shimura's low key easygoing technique against Murakami who has the ferocity of the young man. The shooting scene though on the other hand is pure visual mastery of Kurosawa, with his immaculate use of rain to create the atmosphere of the sudden, in particular the suddenness of the shift and in the shooting you see in a way how it truly is a stray if not rabid dog they're dealing with.
Now I hate to sully Kurosawa talk with the opposite end of the spectrum with Adam McKay, a master of very few trades other than picking television projects to put his name on but not do too much with. Someone can accuse me of not being fair, but the simple truth is the more McKay there is the worse something is. Anyway, I should say there are two segments of McKay as a director that is the comedy phase where he made four films that are different levels of funny (in that none of the four are bereft of good jokes). Anchorman being the best in that regard, although in even that he actually a whole film worth of material that didn't cut it. His direction in this I wouldn't call assured though, he hits some bits here and there, and never is completely assured even with Anchorman where he hits the most bits (again after cutting out a film worth of bits that apparently didn't work.) His success though is fairly random in all four films, and doesn't prove to be this hilarious visual director, as for example the Other Guys action scenes frequently sink sections of the film though a few visual bits in Anchorman do work like the fight. Of course Step Brothers, Talladega Nights and The Other Guys are periodically funny not consistently funny where Anchorman is fairly close to that. These films are more reliant on the actors and the writing of the bits, that were often improvised though I'll give him credit in these films is that unlike certain contemporary comedy directors he did know when to yell cut or remove that didn't work in the edit (so I should note the Anchorman situation actually does show some early wisdom), and did bring his films well under two hours. So kudos there on the directing front and writing front to some extent. Not an amazing comedy director, but a decent one at very goofy comedies. Which means in a way sloppiness is allowed to an extent and he certainly got by there, even if it was kind of diminishing returns per film.
Then he became a dramatic filmmaker...I'm going to need a moment here.
Bryan:
Gorgeous of course with Deakins. It looks like a domestic drama, which by my love/hate relationship with Mendes's films, that means it seems destined for the latter column. I hope that's not the case, particularly given it is a film with prominent roles for Colman and Jones. I mean from the trailer it looks like the film is going all in its dramatic tone, increasing the chances that it will be either really bad or really good. So we'll see.
I will say given the prominence of the importance of film from the trailer, looks like academy catnip.
Yeah, most of the characters from McKay's dramatic works may as well be from some kind of Anchorman reboot based on how they're written.
8000's:
Now to continue. McKay as a dramatic writer is incompetent on a very basic level. Both Vice and The Big Short are structurally a mess even disregarding the overall content. The former in particular has no natural build at any point it is just scenes in the worst of ways. Don't Look Up I guess was progression in that the structure was at least there, but that is about as basic as one can say given the three acts were easy to setup discovery - lack of prevention - comet hits. Not that hard. So that's not genuine praise trust me on that. What or who are his characters. Know-it-alls/Buffoons basically are the two settings and really the degree of depth of his characters. The occasional straw man villain who is greedy or nefarious for the most generalized way possible. Typically not an arc to be found, again the most basic one he found eventually in Don't Look Now, but that should not be praised. The worse sin though is his methods at "messaging", which for McKay basically means being as condescending and superior as possible in a finger wagging way for every aspect. He did this consistently with his cutaways in the Big Short, which rather poorly explained things, or the ghost of Jesse Plemons, one of the worst narrative devices I've ever seen honestly. That mixed though with being as repetitive as possible, never finding anything truly interesting to discuss because that would require nuance when just basically going on rant about his three subjects is his preferred method, only backed up by his off-screen attitude towards anyone who dare criticize his movies as "part of the problem", then maybe just realizing his storytelling is terrible. That is of course writing in his jokes that are the same juvenile brand of humor, though now lacking that thing called ever being funny. This is in part by just clearly how serious McKay is treating himself so the jokes come off as false but also just because the jokes aren't funny.
His directing, oh his directing. So woeful is it. The most haphazard of choices that couldn't be more distracting. His choice for shaky cam and random cutaways, not smooth just bad. Also so often are his cutaways so on the nose and repetitive that it just headache inducing. His overall though aesthetics tend be lifeless anyways, or at least just kind of "eh". And that is when he calms down and doesn't feel he has to further emphasize his writing as so brilliantly by doubling down on every point to make them all the more obvious and obnoxious. He's unsubtle upon unsubtly as a directing having no way of tempering anything he does. Additionally he has a knack for really getting mostly bad performances from his cast, seemingly pushing them to ham it up more than usual. He has no artfulness with tone, making any drama so heavy handed and any humor so forced. Just a combination of ill-fitting noise. All of this combining (if one only includes his dramatic films) to become the worst director ever nominated for best director.
It always makes me shudder to even imagine a version of Succession where every episode was written or directed by McKay.
I confess that these serious Mckay films only served to make his comedies better.
Anchorman The Legend of Ron Burgundy and Step Brothers are his best films of his career.
Talladega Nights and The Other Guys are silly and fun.
I hope Mckay and Ferrell make amends.
Thoughts on the White Noise trailer.
Louis: What would be your thoughts on the "mirror in the bathroom" fight scene from "Grosse Point Blank"?
I find it to be a particularly brutal part of the film, partly because John Cusack throwing hands is more believable than it should be.
Guys: I have a question. If Safary and Khan get reviewed for Taare Zameen Par (2007), what ratings do you see them getting for it???
Perfectionist_ad:
Khan - 4.5
Safary - 3.5/4
Tahmeed: What would be your personal ratings for them???
Perfectionist_ad: Personally, Khan is a 5 for me, and Safary is a 4.5.
RIP Leon Vitali, didn't realize he passed away last week.
RIP Leon Vitali
Joe Pesci is returning!!!: https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/joe-pesci-pete-davidson-edie-falco-peacock-series-bupkis-1235350754/?fbclid=IwAR2WtbcORBM4d9wZyUqN-4gcEb9gicgkFosFsyhMsolzSvDtdF5OODI_MAc
Louis: Any chance of your reviewing Roberts Blossom for Home Alone, or him going up slightly?
Luke:
Well certainly appears to be quite the departure in a certain sense with the seeming visual ambition, definitely has Baumbach qualities, but with a different reach here. Certainly interested to see what he's got with tackling a very different story for him.
Mitchell:
Well an effective fight scene to be sure, and indeed impressive in terms of Cusack's physical believability in the scene.
Tahmeed:
It is all possible.
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