Monday, 7 December 2020

Alternate Best Actor 1970

And the Nominees Were Not:

James Fox in Performance

Peter Sellers in Hoffman
 
Nicol Williamson in The Reckoning

Richard Harris in The Molly Maguires

Jason Robards in The Ballad of Cable Hogue
 
And a review of:
Alec Guinness in Cromwell

94 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thank you.

1. Williamson
2. Robards
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Luke Higham said...

I'm really looking forward to this lineup.

5s for Williamson, Robards, Harris and Guinness. 4.5s for Sellers and Fox.

Louis Morgan said...

I should note, this sort of push for every year to be a full ten, has not been my favorite thing. I only like to do it if it is essential to cover the year properly. I prefer only five recommendations that way I can see more specified who appears to be the most promising candidates, I do my own research but I appreciate a clearer starting point.

Louis Morgan said...

Of course I do appreciate the enthusiasm for my reviews, it is it just does require additional effort, so I prefer it to be absolutely justified rather than just to cover bases.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Understandable. For me, I'm always worried about a potential five missing out.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Williamson
2. Fox
3. Robards
4. Harris
5. Sellers

Shooting entirely in the dark here.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Did you use The Conformist for your background image.

Anonymous said...

1. Williamson
2. Robards
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

This is a bloody good lineup.

Luke Higham said...

I hope Guinness is reviewed first, really hope it'll be his 8th five.

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Harris
2. Robards
3. Williamson
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Of course, though some Ryan's Daughter shots were also tempting, but hard to deny The Conformist where every shot is gorgeous.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Try out Ok.Ru for films that you're really struggling to find.

And I'll post the FTW list tomorrow night.

Luke Higham said...

Sad thing about this lineup is that it'll very likely be Harris's last review.

Anonymous said...

Luke, unless he gets reviewed for Fall Of The Roman Empire, this may very well be Guinness' final review too. :(

Mitchell Murray said...

1) Williamson
2) Robards
3) Sellers
4) Harris
5) Fox

Also, since it was deleted with the last post, I'll ask again Louis: What would be your thoughts on Dennis Quaid as an actor?

Razor said...

1. Williamson
2. Robards
3. Sellers
4. Harris
5. Fox

Aidan Pittman said...

1. Robards
2. Williamson
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

GM said...

1. Robards
2. Williamson
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Recommendations:
Innokentiy Smoktunovskiy & Sergey Bondarchuk, Uncle Vanya
Sophia Loren & Marcello Mastroianni, Sunflower
Marcello Mastroianni, Jealousy, Italian Style
Jüri Järvet, King Lear
Vladimír Smeral, Witchhammer
Georgi Taratorkin, Crime and Punishment
Shirley Stoler, The Honeymoon Killers
Inna Churikova, Nachalo
Stéphane Audran, La rupture
Stéphane Audran, Le boucher
Carrie Snodgress, Diary of a Mad Housewife
Eva Marie Saint, Loving
Béatrice Romand, Claire's Knee

Bryan L. said...

Mitchell: Did you mean to ask about Randy Quaid? He’s the one that’s in The Paper, not Dennis.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Are there any other Alec Guinness performances thay could go up from a 4.5 to a 5? Asking because after going through all his reviews, I think he has the most 4.5's.

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan L: Going by his original comment, he meant Dennis, which is why he said Dennis.

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Calvin Law said...

Louis: seeing as Richard Attenborough is now a 4 for Miracle on 34th Street...any chance Gwenn could go up from a 3.5? Seeing as you prefer his take overall.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Would you consider Michael Corleone as an anti-hero, anti-villain or villain? I've seen all three used to describe him in different places, and I don't really know the best way to describe him.

Also, given that you mentioned in the 94 Lead overall that Andy Dufresne is one of most inspirational heroes ever, could I have a list of your ten favourite heroes on film?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Anonymous: That's an interesting question in regards to Michael. In my opinion, he starts out as a traditinal hero up until the moment he murders McCluskey and Sollozzo. But I would argue he truly becomes an anti-hero after Apollonia's death, and it's all downhill from there.

In Part II, he's a straight up villain protagonist from the very beginning. While I wouldn't necessarily call his entire arc in the film wholly static (I don't think the Michael in the beginning of the film would have had Fredo murdered), there's a reason AFI classified him as a villain on their list.

And honestly, as you could probably tell by my profile picture, the flawless way Pacino delivers this arc is the reason why I consider the sum total of those two performances to be the greatest achievement on film.

BRAZINTERMA said...

1. Jason Robards
2. Richard Harris
3. Nicol Williamson
4. Peter Sellers
5. James Fox

John Smith said...

1. Robards
2. Sellers
3. Harris
4. Williamson
5. Fox

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: Cromwell is the only one as I did ask him about others that looked as if they were on the border and he said no.

Grady Tripp said...

Hi Louis,

Still enjoying your site enormously, but I wonder: do you keep your actresses line-ups somewhere? I'd love to see more of them. (I saw your top 20's of 1994 in a reply just now.)

John Smith said...

I actually feel that Hoffman is sellers carrer best... Ill might change my predictions, this year is hard.

Tim said...

1) Williamson
2) Roberts
3) Harris
4) Sellers
5) Fox


your thoughts on the screenplay of Heavenly Creatures?

Emi Grant said...

Grady: I think you can find most of Louis' Lead and Supporting Actress Top 20's on the results of the Bonus Alternates.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Did you see Against The Wall. Heart Of Darkness was actually 93.

Anonymous said...

Louis & Luke, what do you think about Nolans’ latest remarks about WB/HBO Max?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Been waiting for his reaction and I couldn't agree more with him.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Watched Sound of Metal, which I loved, even the last act. Really an original, atypical take which didn't go where I expected it to, and appreciated it for.

Ahmed- 5
Raci- 4
Cooke- 3.5
Amalric- 3

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Is Le Cercle Rouge more of a directors film or did anyone stand out more to you than Delon.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

Quaid, of the Dennis variety (seriously the Quaid brothers are two of the most different cinematic siblings), is one of those actors, who often is the lead, is very much a kind of "type" actor. In if you want that kind of grizzled type these days, you get Quaid. Quiad in turn typically delivers a certain presence and enough emotional range to carry his roles. I typically view him his work as mostly decent sometimes pretty good (The Big Easy, Right Stuff, Far From Heaven), though never great (Far From Heave fans will disagree with me on that one), but definitely consistent. He's actually not someone I see fail when he stretches, rather those are usually his better performances, but definitely seems to be largely comfortable in staying in well, his comfort zone.

Tahmeed:

Probably not.

Calvin:

To be perfectly honest he's one I thought I had upgraded long ago.

Anonymous:

I'd actually say anti-hero to the rarely used anti-villain, at least within the context of the film. This as Michael's motivation actually never changes throughout the films, as hard as it is to believe. He is always trying to preserve the family, in his mind, the problem is Michael's sense of that gets more and more detached, so the more he does to theoretically protect the family the more he's destroying it. My point being that while Michael's actions become quite evil, they are never specifically villainous in the traditional sense of a villain. This as behind all his evil acts there is a "good intention" making him an anti-villain at heart as Michael technically doesn't break his "save the family" code, its just nothing he's doing is actually saving the family.

Tim:

The screenplay, though less showy in a certain sense, is essential to the film. This the screenplay draws many careful lines throughout the film. This as yes it does brilliantly develop the relationship between the girls, which it manages some fantastic ambiguities. Ambiguous in the nature of the symbiotic relationship, whether it be sexual or not, but also in terms of whether it is beneficial or toxic. It shows both without being hypocritical. What I also love though is the portrayal the parents, which it depicts as flawed, but simple. They show how they bungled the situation just as the girls did, but also grant sympathy to the causes of this. There is no simplicity and grants the proper complexity to the destruction relationship. This opening with the horrible act being the right move, but also the progression realized away from cheap sensationalism, rather seeking to find the humanity within horror of it.

Luke:

I didn't watch either. I'll admit I've been re-working my choices regarding viewings per a given year, trying to focus on more overtly lauded films, or ones with a clear element that has been lauded (with just the occasional "I have to know" morbid curiosity). Judging by Eureka, I 'm not terribly interested in more "Bad Roeg" so I passed on Heart of Darkness, and Against the Wall sounded similar to The Burning Season as "aggressively fine". The former I only watched due to my great affection for Julia.

Grady:

What Emi said.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: That's Ok. Anyway, here's the films to watch list.

Ryan's Daughter (Upgrade for Miles)
Investigation Of A Citizen Above Suspicion (If Volonte is a possibility for an upgrade)
Le Cercle Rouge
The Confession (Montand/Signoret)
The Wild Child
Loving
One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich
Monte Walsh
Kes
Waterloo
Rider On The Rain
The Adversary
Days And Nights In The Forest
Figures In A Landscape (Shaw/McDowell)
Husbands
Deep End
Julius Caesar
Alex In Wonderland
WUSA
The Aristocats (If you haven't already)
Airport
Diary Of A Mad Housewife
Puzzle Of A Downfall Child
Bed And Bored
A Swedish Love Story
The Breach
Uncle Vanya
Promise At Dawn
The Out-Of-Towners
The Owl And The Pussycat
Something For Everyone
Tristana
The Landlord
Darling Lili
The Ear
Sunflower (Loren/Mastroianni)
This Man Must Die
Pieces Of Dreams
Madron
This Transient Life
Heroic Purgatory
Claire's Knee
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Borsalino
The Hawaiians
First Love
There's A Girl In My Soup
Watermelon Man
Wuthering Heights (Timothy Dalton)
Little Fauss And Big Halsy
The Act Of The Heart
Bloomfield
The Virgin And The Gypsy
Jenny
A Drama Of Jealousy (And Other Things)
Many Wars Ago

Luke Higham said...

I admit I could've put more on here but I was really feeling exhausted doing it.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I also read up on Costa-Gavras' The Confession with Montand and he could be a surprise five. Perhaps 1 for the backlog if he really impresses you.

Anonymous said...

Luke, I don't think I'd be able to stomach making those lists as it would probably take me hours to do it so my hat is off to you for trying your best.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Thanks

Anonymous said...

Louis, Luke didn't mention it but could you check out A Man Called Horse with Richard Harris.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Glenn Close, Marisa Tomei, and both Jasons in The Paper?

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Yah...I more or less have the same opinion in regards to Quaid. And I also never really got the love for his "Far from Heaven" performance; He's good, and most definitely deserved to be nominated over Harris and Reilly (Though I like the latter), but the overall scope of his character and film still limits him.

That being said...even though I haven't seen the entire film, his impression of Bill Clinton in "The Special Relationship" is remarkably accurate.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, now I get what Bryan was saying about "The Paper". I honestly had never heard of the film until I saw it mentioned here.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I can't wait to see what you think of Rod Steiger in Waterloo.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous2:
1. Robards
2. Williamson
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Maciej said...

1.Williamson
2.Robards
3.Sellers
4.Fox
5.Harris

RatedRStar said...

1. Robards
2. Williamson
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Matthew Brown said...

1. Robards
2. Williamson
3. Harris
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Calvin Law said...

Tahmeed: the more I think about the film the more the third act is growing on me. I have to admit, Sound of Metal is staying with me so much and I have a feeling it'll still be one of my favourites even after watching all the awards contenders.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: More of a director's film in my opinion, though all three principles are more than decent.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: If that is indeed the case then my supporting lineup is:
Cribbins
Warner
Plummer
Heston
Kinski

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Richard Harris
2. Nicol Williamson
3. Jason Robards
4. Peter Sellers
5. James Fox

Reeeeeeeally close between the top 3 so use my predictions at your own discretion.

Also for the record I’d have Delon just below Robards (I definitely liked him more than Calvin did) and Guinness last.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Your ratings for Harris, Williamson, Robards, Sellers, Fox and Delon.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Changing:

1. Richard Harris
2. Nicol Williamson
3. Jason Robards
4. Peter Sellers
5. James Fox

Michael, forgive me for my treachery.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Thanks for making this contest even harder to predict than it already was but I'm so happy you're really enthusiastic about the top 3.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Could I also have your ratings on Jagger, Connery and Warner (Cable Hogue).

Matt Mustin said...

I watched Gangs of New York, and I gotta say, looking up Day-Lewis' screen time was pretty shocking to me, because he feels like he's in every other scene.

Also, random, shot in the dark prediction.

1. Williamson
2. Harris
3. Robards
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Anonymous said...

Michael, If Guinness is last when he's going up for Cromwell then this is one hell of a category to re-examine.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Matt: I’ll be honest, I still consider Day-Lewis co-lead. It just... doesn’t *feel* like a supporting role. Granted, when it comes to “villainous mentors” like Bill or Gordon Gecko, it’s really hard for me not to think of them as co-leads as opposed to regular antagonists or mentors. Usually the themes of the films hinge on them. Also, 30% is still 45 minutes of that movie, which is more allotted time than some unambiguously lead performances in shorter films.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: Yeah, I'm still not sure where to put him.

Calvin Law said...

So apparently Lance Henriksen is a co-lead in Falling and it's being submitted before the deadline for a wide release. Apparently the film is also dire to the point where it doesn't have a chance of getting in, but interesting to note that since I'd previously just assumed it was a juicy supporting role. Apparently the entire film is pretty much from his perspective.

Bryan L. said...

Calvin: That's what I thought as well (meaty supporting role), after reading several Sundance reviews when it premiered there.

Calvin Law said...

I do find it amusing that initially we were all expecting this year's Oscars to be very empty yet even if the deadline wasn't extended, there'd still be an overabundance of contenders in every category besides Supporting Actress.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I keep forgetting to ask your thoughts on the cast to Sound of Metal, could I have them (although maybe you should save your thoughts on Raci just in case, in part because his big scene will probably be discussed in great detail in the prospective Ahmed review).

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Calvin: I loved that scene. I especially admired the fact that it seemed like a disappointed parent cutting off their child, and Raci and Ahmed played it brilliantly.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

As for predictions, which I have absolutely no idea about:

1. Williamson
2. Harris
3. Robards
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Also, I don't think Guinness is definitely going up for Cromwell, might just be another Gyllenhaal/Donnie Darko situation.

Matt Mustin said...

Yeah, Day-Lewis is lead now that I think about it. I actually kinda can't rationalize him as supporting at all.

Michael McCarthy said...

Luke:

Harris: 5
Williamson: 5
Robards: 5
Sellers: 4.5
Fox: 4.5
Delon: 4.5 (strong one though, no pressure but I won’t be mad at all if Louis sneaks in a review for him)
Jagger: 3.5
Connery: 4
Warner: 5 (And I’ll bet anything he takes the supporting win from Malden)

Anonymous said...

On a random note, has anyone watched Season 4 Episode 1 of Attack on Titan that just aired recently? I know there are some anime watchers here so i was wondering their opinion.

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: Weirdly no. While I've seen bits and pieces of the first season, I still wouldn't say I've truly watched "Attack on Titan"...which is something I wouldn't mind remedying n the near future.

As of right now, though, I will mention that I'm in the middle of "The Seven Deadly Sins", season 2.

Mitchell Murray said...

*in the near future*

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Anonymous: I haven't even watched season 3 of AOT yet, which I'm going to rectify in the near future.

Jack Narrator said...

1. Robards
2. Harris
3. Williamson
4. Sellers
5. Fox

Tim said...

I am currently rewatching Scrubs for the seven millionth time, and was wandering what everybody's favorite performances in it are?

MVP for me absolutely has to be John C. McGinley, and Neil Flynn of course is always impressvie, even in shit like The Middle.
But this is the first time i genuinely acknowledge what Zach Braff, Judy Reyes and especially Ken Jenkins are doing.

Also, man seeing Sam Lloyd makes me sad ...

Matt Mustin said...

Tim: John C. McGinley is my favorite easily (talk about a perfect match of actor and material), followed by Ken Jenkins and honorable mention to Brendan Fraser's guest appearances.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Nothing against Malden but I really hope for a new Supporting winner as well and I hope this finally ends Warner's fiveless run.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What are the 10 most disappointing performances you've seen. Whether it's a great deal of hype behind them or one from an actor you expected to be great due to he or she being highly reliable.

Guys, you can also answer this question as well if you want.

Emi Grant said...

Luke: Only one that really comes to mind right now is Eddie Redmayne on The Theory of Everything, but for a fairly different reason. I was kinda hoping I would understand why he ended up winning Best Actor and to not feel too bad about Keaton's loss. As in, "I don't think he's better than Keaton, but he's still great in it".

I didn't ended up thinking he was bad or anything. I think he's good, just nowhere near in the same conversation as Birdman himself.

Tim said...

Luke: i am on Emi's side, but would also definitely mention Joaquin Pheonix in Joker, which i watched pretty late, after i had already seen Hollywood and pain & Glory and had loved DiCaprio and Banderas, and even though the 4 by Louis got the hype down a bit, i had still hoped i would like it more than he did.

While we're at it, since Louis gave James Mason a 5 for The Verdict i was very excited for it, but i just didn't see that much in it

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: A lot of the one's I could mention are more "underwhelming because of insane hype", as opposed to "truly disappointing". Of course that sentiment is mainly rooted in a devoted fan base building up the performance, leaving me to say "okay, I get it...kind of." Once more, this seems to happen with leading turns more often that it does supporting ones, probably because of the increase focus and time given to such roles.

Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by Your Name)
Julianne Moore (Far from Heaven)
Nicole Kidman (The Hours)
Jessica Chastain (Zero Dark Thirty)
Colin Firth (The King's Speech)
Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)
Felicity Huffman (Transamerica)

Obviously, the major connection between those examples is that they all received big press/awards traction, and for me personally, I see them as good acting showcases where others might see them as great.

RatedRStar said...

My winning request is Thomas Bo Larsen - Festen

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Is Larsen supporting.

Emi Grant said...

Also, Steve Buscemi in The Sopranos. Season 5 left me a bit underwhelmed compared to the rest of the series.

Luke Higham said...

Top Ten prediction
1. Scott
2. Nicholson
3. Williamson
4. Robards
5. Harris
6. Hackman
7. Guinness
8. Sellers
9. Volonte
10. Delon

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Close - 3.5(Decent enough performance from her where in a strange way she gets to let loose a little more than usual as the frigid "all business" reporter. She clashes and contrasts well against Keaton, bringing enough of the incisive edge combined with a certain desperation about the whole thing at the same time.)

Tomei - 3(Mostly limited as the nagging but also encouraging love interest. She's generally good at this even if her role is both repetitive and has a bit of whiplash. She has a nice chemistry with Keaton and her typical charisma carries her along the way.)

Robards - 3(A short cameo where he basically reprises Ben Bradlee for a scene. Does it well as to be expected and is a nice quick bit.)

Alexander - 2(Way over the top as an unhappy bureaucrat angry at the world. Just goes way too broad in comparison to the rest of the cast, and sadly it isn't too surprising why his film career didn't take off based on this>)

Calvin:

I will actually save Raci anyways since he could go up.

Cooke - (Her character in a way is probably what I cared about least within the film, but she is good. This in portraying the wholly supportive quality of her character but mixed within it that palatable since of desperation within the character. This in she does well to portray really the two as having the relationship of a mutually dependent addicts, but know having recovered while maintaining that type of relationship to an extent.)

Amalric - (He really is given a pretty tall order to do a whole lot in a single scene to try to explain Cooke's history, his relationship with her, and his relationship with his wife. While I can't say he completely is able to articulate all that, he still does a good job of portraying a good sense of love and concern for his daughter.)

Tim:

Well all I can say is re-watch his cross examination of Lindsay Crouse, if that isn't great acting, I don't know what is.

Luke:

Well I try not to "hype" performances in my mind or even take the rep too much to heart, as one needs to have their own opinions. Still:

Steve Buscemi in The Sopranos was definitely very disappointing.

Otherwise it is often the trend of performances from once great or at least promising performers, like Post-2011 Jessica Chastain for example.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Yes

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these deleted scenes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRnoir0UiYs

Anonymous said...

Luke, who do you think Louis’s Best Director choices for 1970?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
Lean
Schaffner
Melville
Costa-Gavras
Peckinpah

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

All fine scenes on their own, though it is easy enough to see why they were deleted as none included anything essential. The one I'd say is different is Kim's "award" that actually is relatively important.