Sunday 27 December 2020

Alternate Best Actor 1970: Alec Guinness in Cromwell

Alec Guinness did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying King Charles I in Cromwell. 

Cromwell is more than decent realization, of a great story, about the rebellion of Oliver Cromwell in England. 

Alec Guinness plays the secondary lead of the King of England Charles, who comes to clash with Richard Harris, a fitting firebrand, as Oliver Cromwell, featured here largely as a righteous freedom fighter. Guinness being an ideal actor for a quiet King, this as his presence is one that is striking even when silent as is the case here. Guinness's performance though is remarkable in creating Charles a complex figure within a story that could've potentially pressed him a simpler villain or even just a fool. Guinness's portrayal early on grants more than anything this weight of conflicted responsibilities. This as we see him speak towards those his Catholic wife views lowly, Guinness speaks with a tempering manner. An attempt to create a gracious quality of the man who wishes moderation. Guinness's voice though remarkably contrasting his eyes that speak towards the responsibility of a more personal level. This in the sort of recognition within his eyes a frustration with his wife, but also a resignation towards her wishes. Guinness does so much more than simply sit there, he creates a conflict within the man that is almost entirely unspoken yet wholly realized within his performance. Guinness showing Charles to not necessarily being a bad by nature but rather a leader compromised by his position. 

Charles takes his wife's choices towards trying to arrest Cromwell and his acolytes. A scene that again is such striking work just by looking purely upon Guinness's performance. This as he speaks with just a calm authority of the arrests to be made, notable most against Harris's fierce passionate performance. Guinness showing the state of the man sticking towards a certain script as he declares the arrests, but again his facial expressions say so much. This in the glints of unease as he sees Cromwell's rejection of the events, and again finding a greater complication within Charles than perhaps the overall film even means to present. Guinness finds nuance within the depiction creating even in the battle scenes a man of a certain inadequacy. This as Guinness presenting Charles as being almost lost within the whole thing, with a certain sense of a gentleman's indifference towards the affair though it be more a game than an actual battle. After he begins to lose, we have a moment of him trying to figure out how to continue the battle. This as Guinness brings such  sense of defeat as he speaks every attempted strategy. A sadness within the frustration of a man unaware of this kind of anxiety. A weakness of course is found in his work, but there is such a humanity he brings in this pathetic quality. This even in the way he so sadly holds his flag as he attempts, and fails to argue with his allies regarding his intentions to use whatever means necessary to win. Guinness wonderfully emphasizes the man, within the failure making Charles far more interesting than he would be otherwise. 

Guinness finds a complexity within the weakness of the poor leader, and even a certain sympathy. Take the scene where he is almost at a loss, where one of his commanders has abandoned his defeated army. Guinness leading a weak bluster against the man attempting to maintain the claim as the strong King. After the man leaves though, any sense of confidence drifts from his face. This with a somber depression as his eyes show a man whose whole world is falling apart before his eyes. His moments of moving his men's pieces from the map is a simple one, but powerful within Guinness's portrayal of it with such a sincere sense of loss. Even when Charles is seeing off his wife and son, as Cromwell's army is closing in, it is not that of the villain getting his righteous defeat. This rather Guinness expresses a true heartbreak both in the personal moment of saying goodbye to his wife and son, but also in the sense of failure towards leading Great Britain. After his fall, where he remains a captive of sorts. We see the split of the man well realized on both ends by Guinness. This being the sheer warmth he brings in playing with family and a loving man in that. This against a meeting with Cromwell, who offers Charles a way out that Charles does not accept, which Guinness presents with a quiet stubbornness, a learned stubbornness from years of following an accepted path. This shown even when denounced as a tyrant. 
 
Guinness presents a blithe indifference and questions the authority of the court. Guinness speaking with a privilege, mental privilege, of a man convinced by his very existence as a King that he must be beyond a normal judgement. The difference between the personal and the public though, Guinness finds a man who perhaps would've good as just a man, but as king, raised to be a king, is a terrible one. When he sentenced to be executed, Guinness's performance is essential and incredible in realizing Charles. This as it is not just a sense of fear, but a sheer emotional distress. This as Guinness's expression is of a man who cannot believe it simply could happen by way of his existence up until this point. Again Guinness so notably finding this moments to detail Charles more deeply. Guinness in doing this not only making Charles more interesting as a character, but also making his journey far more emotional than it would be. This in his final meeting with his family, Guinness is genuinely and powerfully heartbreaking. This as his face shows so sincerely the distress within the man awaiting his fate, while still speaking with a king's grace as he gives his son orders. Guinness showing though a loving family man in the moment, as his voice cracks as a man who genuinely loves his family. Guinness managing to make a moving portrait of the man, even while still realizing Charles as a bad leader. I love what Guinness does here as he offers such detail towards Charles as a man and as a King, I only wish the rest of the film brought the same level of attention to the more intimate elements of this potent tale. 

107 comments:

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: your ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast?

Matt Mustin said...

I thought Soul was amazing. I loved every second of it.

Foxx-4
Fey-4

Everybody else is basically a collective 3.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Has Harris gone up to a 4.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on Bowling for Columbine.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Apparently the film was 3 hours long originally and Ken Hughes had to cut it down by 40 minutes.

Hughes also had Peter Finch as his first choice to play Cromwell, any thoughts on this.

Anonymous said...

It must've been a really brave move on Harris' part to play Cromwell, considering the impact he had in Irish history.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

I believe I've pretty much covered them before.

Luke:

Yes.

Well I'll say part of the flaw of the film, which I do like, is the action is not especially compelling, so if that was part of it, probably wouldn't have mattered.

I think, given the film's choice regarding Cromwell as this specific man of steadfast principal, Harris was the better choice due to his innate charisma. Finch of course could've brought the needed fire to the character, but might've been too cold, particularly in contrast to Guinness.

Tahmeed:

Well, if I'm not mistaken, I think I did give a generalized thoughts on Moore's style in general, and my thoughts haven't change since then. Although to reiterate slightly, he does what he does well, though I am not the biggest fan of specially political documentaries in general (Liberal or Conservative leaning). This just as any time there is a surprising fact I feel the great urge to look it up instantly to see if that is the case, as these docs given, they are intended to make a point, often omit certain facts, or obscure them in some way lest they get in the way of the point.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Where would this performance rank in Guinness' top ten.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

1. The Bridge on The River Kwai
2. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
3. Kind Hearts and Coronets
4. The Lavender Hill Mob
5. The Horse's Mouth
6. Little Dorrit
7. The Detective
8. Cromwell
9. Tunes of Glory
10. Scrooge

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your top ten female performances in Westerns?

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Hmmm...not including "neo-westerns".

1. Jennifer Jason Leigh - The Hateful Eight
2. Geraldine Page - The Beguiled
3. Emily Watson - The Proposition
4. Julie Christie - McCabe & Mrs. Miller
5. Shelly Winters - The Scalphunters
6. Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar
7. Elizabeth Hartman - The Beguiled
8. Essie Davis - True History of the Kelly Gang
9. Annette Bening - Open Range
10. Claire Trevor - Stagecoach

Could be forgetting someone obvious.

John Smith said...

Rewatching zero dark thirty im a bit conflicted. Modtly because how the show the consequences of tortyren as a mean to gain information. But its Well directed and Well acted for sure. The editing truly stands out

Matt Mustin said...

John Smith: I think Zero Dark Thirty was altogether pretty bad.

Anonymous said...

Just watched Elegy and am I the only one who thought Glenn Close was actually good? I thought Amy Adams gave a ridiculous performance, if anyone

Mitchell Murray said...

John and Matt: I might as well give my two cents on "Zero Dark Thirty"...

As a historical dramatization, it's a more than decent attempt at portraying the hunt for Bin Laden. The subject matter involved is controversial, of course, but one could say that about a number of movies. More than anything, I think the film functions as a straightforward procedural, and impresses on a technical level thanks to the editing/cinematography. The star studded cast adds to it's appeal, certainly, and Chastain is good (but not outstanding) in the central role.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, as I mentioned on the last post, the "Death Battle" season finale - Hulk Vs Broly - was released today. Here's the link if anyone's curious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJoRqW9fbU&t=6s

BRAZINTERMA said...

Tell me your Top 10 Best Supporting Actress, Lead Actress and Director from 1970 ...

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
10º Beatrice Arthur - Lovers and Other Strangers
9º Samantha Eggar - The Molly Maguires
8º Judith Anderson - A Man Called Horse
7º Lee Grant - The Landlord
6º Faye Dunaway - Little Big Man
5º Florinda Bolkan - Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
4º Edith Evans - Scrooge
3º Stella Stevens - The Ballad of Cable Hogue
2º Eva Marie Saint - Loving
1º Karen Black - Five Easy Pieces

LEAD ACTRESS
10º Barbara Loden - Wanda
9º Tuesday Weld - I Walk the Line
8º Shirley MacLaine - Two Mules For Sister Sara
7º Florinda Bolkan - The Anonymous Venetian
6º Catherine Deneuve - Tristana
5º Ruth Gordon - Where's Poppa?
4º Marlène Jobert - Rider on the Rain
3º Carrie Snodgress - Diary of a Mad Housewife
2º Sarah Miles - Ryan's Daughter
1º Sophia Loren - Sunflower

DIRECTOR
10º Arthur Penn - Little Big Man
9º Elio Petri - Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
8º Sam Peckinpah - The Ballad of Cable Hogue
7º Bob Rafelson - Five Easy Pieces
6º Costa Gravas - The Confession
5º Ronald Neame - Scrooge
4º Franklin J. Schaffner - Patton
3º David Lean - Ryan's Daughter
2º Jean-Pierre Melville - Le Cercle Rouge
1º Robert Altman - MASH

And what are your Top 10?
Comment!

Louis Morgan said...

Saw Promising Young Woman, I have to say the trailer is rather inaccurate and paints it as a far more extreme and kitschy film than it is. The actual film though, I thought was quite terrific in its aesthetic, balance between satirical bite and genuine emotion within its rather off-beat, and often intense narrative, though I am quite conflicted over the ending. Nonetheless, even with that uncertainty, I am quite certain over my affection for the majority of the film.

Mulligan - 5
Burnham - 3.5/4
Brie - 3.5
Brown - 3/3.5
Coolidge - 2.5
Cox - 3
Lowell & Greenfield - (Their performances are part of the conflict)
Mintz-Plasse - 3.5
Molina - 3.5
Shannon - 3

Luke Higham said...

Yes!, a 5 for Mulligan. :)

Thoughts on the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Best to wait I think, as it is difficult to really dive into them without getting into spoilers.

Matt Mustin said...

Mitchell: Let me clarify on Zero Dark Thirty, I don't like it as a movie, I'm not talking about the politics. It's boring and overlong.

Calvin Law said...

I'll be honest, a Mintz-Plasse 3.5 is even more surprising than a Mulligan 5.

I'm going to be watching it on a screening on the 14th (incidentally I don't know if I've mentioned but I've applied for Film Independent Membership and got it so I'll possibly be able to vote for the awards themselves, though still not sure). Just missed out on a Nomadland screening a few days prior to signing up though unfortunately.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I’ve never been a fan of it either. Chastains good and I kind of like Clarke in it, but I’ve always been kind of bored by it.

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: I never meant to imply that, of course. I only mention it's subject matter as a comparison to similar, better films. I also agree it could've been shorter and better paced.

Matt Mustin said...

I watched Once Upon a Time in the West for the first time, which I thought was brilliant.

Cardinale-4.5
Bronson-5
Fonda-5(Not sure what category I'd put him in. He's probably supporting, but he feels like a co-lead at times)
Robards-5
Ferzetti-4

Emi Grant said...

Anonymous: I thought Close had a single good scene, where she got a little bit of genuine sympathy for me, but the scene is played in such overdramatic fashion that I can't bring myself to like it.

Also, I found Zero Dark Thirty compelling all the way through, but I do confess its runtime made it hard for to fully love it.

Mitchell Murray said...

On a different note, I finished "Mob Psycho 100: Season 2" this morning, and it was just as strong (if not better) than the first. It not only continues the thematic and character growth from the previous season, it's also a more visually striking display of the show's "Esper" powers. Great stuff.

Side Note: There's a good chance I'll be watching "My Hero Academia", Season 1 fairly soon.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: You ever plan on 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist?

Mitchell Murray said...

Robert: Probably within the next few months, yes. As I've said before, however, the episode count for the series is a lot to process. I'm someone who generally likes to stick to one show at a time; As such, I simply would have an easier time watching the likes of "Mob Psycho" or "One Punch Man" than those with considerably longer run times IE "One Piece", "Fairy Tail", etc...

This is also why I'm watching the first season of "My Hero Academia" next - not only because I've been curious about the show for a long time, but also because 13 episodes is less intimidating than 51.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Oscar-nominated screenplay for The Wild Bunch?

Also, your top ten Sam Peckinpah directing moments? (So far)

Anonymous said...

Louis, could Carey Mulligan go up for An Education.

Omar Franini said...

Louis: I’m quite conflicted over the last part of Promising Young Woman as well, I don’t know, maybe i would have preferred a “darker” ending. Your thoughts on the costumes?

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous: she’s a 5 already :)

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I haven't seen Louis confirm that, I know she is for you as well as I.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Which 10 Past and Present Actors/Actresses were most adept at Historical/Period Dramas.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: I just remember at one point when you were asking for a 'actors with less than two 5's' list or something that she wasn't on there, and Louis pretty much confirmed she was a 5 for both that and Madding Crowd.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Went back in time and watched Cecil B. DeMille's The Cheat. Definitely not the must up to date movie, but there's still a lot to praise, especially the direction, cinematography (the lighting in several shots is amazing) and Sessue Hayakawa. Speaking of him and the cast:

Hayakawa: 4 (definitely ahead of his time)
Fannie Ward: 3 (some fine moments of subtlety, but can overdo it)
Jack Dean: 3 (same as Miss Ward, who became his actual wife the previous year)

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: Will there be "Another Year And Another Official Lineup 2020" on Friday?

Bryan L. said...
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Bryan L. said...

Shaggy: I believe he said that he’s still going ahead with it, even if it might end up being more inaccurate this time around.

Calvin Law said...

For the two he'll be posting, my predictions will be:

Boseman
Hopkins
Lindo
Ahmed
Yeun

Kaluuya
Odom Jr.
Raci
Cohen
Tucci

Louis Morgan said...

Watched News of the World, which....honestly I really didn't like much. I guess though I prefer it to Midnight Sky, as older man escorting little girl movies go. It has a few good things in it. The central relationship works, though not really because of the writing. And there is one good action set piece in the film...and that's about it. The film is plodding and often dull. Its attempts at themes, particularly the vicious cycle of Natives vs Settlers and the importance of stories, ring rather hollow. This as the mention these ideas, but never explore them in detail or all that properly through character. It's episodic in a way where the episodes fail to really build on one another and far too many of them are dull or feel weightless. It reminded a lot of Hostiles, which is not a good thing,
in how serious it all is, and in turn how just dour it is. It feels like both are chasing Unforgiven, the gold standard of the modern western, but they should remember how much life is in that film...and that even as bleak as it is at times...there's even quite a bit humor. Yeah not every film can be the masterpiece that is Unforgiven, but this film doesn't even come close to William Munny's spurs.

Zengel - 3.5
Covino - 1.5
Hechinger - 2
Murphy - 2
Marvel - 3

Bill Camp, Mare Winningham and Ray McKinnon do what they can but are wasted in thin roles.

Bryan:

Well the screenplay as written is particularly vivid one right on the page. This vibrancy found in the character from the names to their words, that are quite a bit blunter and grittier than was the time. This though bringing such character to even the more minor details within the work, which Peckinpah expanded on further with his direction. It is a wonderfully vivid work. It goes beyond that though in its realization of a different kind of western, part of the revisionism of the period, that actually didn't fully subvert the tropes rather played with them. This as we do follow heists, law men, bandits but it is all a lot more complicated here. Not only in the codes that define the character, but the rotten, nature of the character, or the shades of gray of everyone. The essential being the code of honor that is Pike's arc, from abandoning Thornton in escape, to going to certain death to retrieve Angel. This being brilliantly realized on its own, but within that the complexity of how that influences the group dynamic both of the "Bunch" but also their pursuers with the former member forced into a kind of servitude. Even that is not simplified though in its exploration of Thornton and really technically Pike's guilt over him. Just an exceptionally lurid and a remarkable bit of work, that is Peckinpah's best written film.

1. Mounted Gun - The Wild Bunch
2. Opening - The Wild Bunch
3. Road Massacre - Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
4. Train Heist - The Wild Bunch
5. Respite - Cross of Iron
6. Climax - Straw Dogs
7. Cable's End - The Ballad of Cable Hogue
8. The Final Battle - Major Dundee
9. 0At the grave - Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
10. Shooting the Kid - Pat Garrett an Billy the Kid

Louis Morgan said...

Omar:

Yeah hard to say for sure, I guess maybe I just wanted something truly subversive, and that is where the film was perhaps at its most standard, not that I thought it was terribly done or even bad, it just wasn't great. Endings are hard after all, and credit to the film that it managed to build my expectations for a brilliant ending, which we didn't get, but the rest of the film was the reason for that build up of expectation however, which is an achievement.

Well the costumes are very much whatever Mulligan is wearing. Her final costume in particularly being potentially iconic I think, certainly quite memorable to say the least. Each of her sort of "acting" costumes though are distinctive in their own way, however and are each a remarkable detail in basically Cassie creating her characters essentially, against her normal clothes, that are well properly normal.

Anonymous:

She is indeed already a 5 for that.

Luke:

Laurence Olivier
Daniel Day-Lewis
Maggie Smith
Toshiro Mifune
Greta Garbo
Tatsuya Nakadai
Marion Cotillard
Charles Laughton
Alec Guinness
Claude Rains

Shaggy:

I am indeed doing that.

Luke Higham said...

Mulligan now has 3 fives, I'm a very happy man.

Calvin Law said...

News of the World just looks so, so boring.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Zengel.

Calvin Law said...

How was the score though?

Anonymous said...

Louis, I'm very pleased about that, I love her work there.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis and Bryan: Thanks

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Zengel - (I didn't love this performance honestly, but it is definitely good enough. This as she brings enough of the sort of initial distressed if repressed state of her character to life, with that sort of undercurrent of rebellion in there. She's more than fine in that regard. Her best moments are with Hanks naturally, and the two strike up a strong enough chemistry in creating a warmth. This within Zengel's work just creating a lesser intensity and greater sympathy in her work. In the end her work didn't leave a great impact on me, but I she was good.)

Calvin:

The score I found does its job, as a fairly typical modern western style score. It certainly is not bad in any regard in creating sort of that epic kind of folksy style score in the vein of True Grit remake, while being wholly original here rather than hymn based. Having said that while watching the film, and afterwards there was not a particularly motif, or moment of score that really stood out to me. It fulfills the film's needs, but it isn't one of James Newton Howard's most memorable score.

Anonymous said...

That's a shame for Zengel. I was really hoping for a better outcome, since I thought she was really good in System Crasher.

Mitchell Murray said...

So as someone who's never seen a single of episode of DBZ, I watched the "Broly" film from "Dragon Ball Super" today. The first half offers mostly fine - if very standard - set up, and I'm sure my lack of familiarity with the series/characters contributed to that feeling. The second half, though, is just a pure, over the top action thrill ride, and would've been more than worthy of seeing on the big screen.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: In regards to Shakespearean protagonists, if you were a filmmaker and adapted Romeo & Juliet, are there any alterations or improvements you would've made to the character of Romeo even at the risk of pissing off the purists.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Even though it's completely random, do you think using the word "cinephile" to describe a love of film is appropriate for a college admissions essay?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Well, I feel Zeffirelli pretty much closed the book on that play, therefore if one were to adapt it again major changes would need to be made to give it purpose in my mind. So that's a yes, but what that would be very much dependent on the take. It would have to be something wholly unorthodox therefore the alterations would have to change. For example, maybe making it in more of an active war-zone sort of thing, just spitballing, therefore making Romeo more hardened, just as an example. Again, though the play as is, what Zeffirelli did was just about perfect in realizing truthfully, respectfully, and cutting right to the core of it.

Anonymous:

Well, honestly I wouldn't, and would recommend "lover of cinema" as an alternate. I don't believe there is anything wrong with the word, but sadly other words that use the suffix "phile" have corrupted it to some extent making some view it as strictly something sexual, even though even the suffix that isn't the original intention necessarily. Maybe whoever reads your essay could have the prejudice, or could not, but based on that risk, I'd leave it off personally.

Matt Mustin said...

Does The Trial of the Chicago 7 still have Oscar chances, or did that just disappear?

Calvin Law said...

Unfortunately yes, it's now second place in Gold Derby. I'm not gonna lie, that film has really faded from my view. If Sorkin gets nominated over Chung in Director I am gonna FLIP.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

It does, it could EASILY bounce back with the industry awards. Also still like that film plenty, despite it becoming somewhat "cool" to dislike it.

Emi Grant said...

I have a feeling The Trial of The Chicago 7 will be the "plenty nominations, 0 Oscars" of this year, like American Hustle or True Grit.

Mitchell Murray said...
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Calvin Law said...

Okay so that Promising Young Woman ending I get what the reservations are but I thought it was kinda brilliant. Will need to think more about it overall though.

Louis Morgan said...

Well Nomadland is wonderful, though having now seen it I could see a Social Network situation occurring. This is as it is extremely minimalistic though it is a testament to the leading performance of McDormand and Zhao's direction that it is absolutely captivating just in the depiction of a life, though atypical in a few ways, but a still rather normal existence. Extremely low key, yet also grand in that way in a fascinating way, just really an example of "how its done" in making a film of this ilk.

McDormand - 5

Everyone else other than Strathairn - 3'sish

I'll say, and this is not a comment on the quality of his work, if Strathairn's performance is nominated it will only be because the academy adores the film beyond belief, which again I'm not sure they will.

Calvin:

Again, as I said, conflicted rather than actually even reservations, it's one that I'll be interested to see how it plays when watching the film a second time.

Emi Grant:

I think if it gets nominated for editing, it pretty likely to win for that, just as it is the type of editing the Academy typically goes for, though Da Five Bloods could spoil if nominated as well.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Will you be able to see The Father soon.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Yes, VERY soon, through a MOMA subscription I was gifted, which will also enable me to see Minari (fairly soon).

Anonymous said...

Louis, Your thoughts on McDormand.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

McDormand - (This is very much her kind of Harry Dean Stanton performance to the world, in turn I don't see her getting the third win even though it would be richly deserved, particularly over Davis. This as her performance is one that isn't of big moments, but rather just breathing such a remarkable life within every moment of her work. This in creating such an honest reality within herself, that never feels vague, despite often being technically simple moments. McDormand though just is on such a natural wavelength here, that also though does kind of push her away from the curmudgeon qualities she's been more eager to emphasize more recently. Here there is none of that, and she's wonderfully effective and affecting, in creating this mostly rather cheerful and endearing woman in technically difficult circumstances. There honestly isn't a wasted moment within her work just because every moment there is something that grants such a intimacy within her portrayal. Again this is so essential, as with a less fully embodying performance, the film I don't think would've worked nearly as well. This is as Zhao makes the surroundings striking, McDormand provides the essential emotional core, in an unfussy but always expressive work. For a performance of this type, it just never feels like acting, yet is always fascinating to watch, which is the highest compliment I can give for it.)

Calvin Law said...

I can’t wait to see Nomadland, I’ll probably get to see it later on this month.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I’m glad you took to McDormand and Zhao’s style. For you personally, would you say Zhao > Fincher?

Luke Higham said...

Regardless what everyone thought of Mank, I don't see Fincher winning because from what I've heard, it didn't strike a chord with Academy members.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yes pretty easily (I will say my affection for Mank was somewhat bolstered initially by having just watched the very dull and very similar Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle just before, though I still definitely like the film) but I'll say Mank's flaws more strongly relate to Fincher the elder's screenplay, than the younger's direction (though he could've pushed for a re-write, the hesitation there is completely understandable).

Calvin Law said...

I would pick almost anyone to win over Fincher. To be honest the Academy’s own fault for picking Hopper over him a decade ago that there’s a dilemma.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I would agree with that, too, even being the resident cynic of the group this year.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Very true, and honestly Mank's theoretical path would've required more critical adoration, as in sweeping the critics, which it's not doing.

Luke Higham said...

I still think Oldman gave a tremendous performance but it won't sadden me if he missed out because he'll still be reviewed anyway and I would like to see Yeun and Ahmed get in there if possible.

Bryan L. said...

I too was gifted a streaming subscription for the holidays/birthday......Disney Plus.

Luke Higham said...

Bryan: My family were watching Muppet Christmas Carol on repeat with Disney+.

Calvin Law said...

I honestly wouldn’t rule out Mikkelsen, and ESPECIALLY Lakeith Stanfield. I’ve heard that people are just as impressed by him as Kaluuya. He could end up taking that final slot.

Like: my view is that a nomination would benefit Ahmed and Yeun a lot more than Oldman, plus I just prefer their performances a lot more. That said I could never truly hate an Oldman nomination since he’s been underrated with awards for so long.

Bryan L. said...

Luke: Definitely going to catch up on some older Disney content there. Somewhat of a blindspot for me.

Anonymous said...

I'm looking forward to the predictions tomorrow morning but it hurts that we all have to wait another 2 1/2 months for the nominations/reviews.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Well my friend, patience is a virtue though it's understandable, having it different this year can make the wait a little less bearable.

Anonymous said...

Luke, how confident are you of Patel getting reviewed.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I'm slowly feeling more confident, especially if there may be a chance he might put both Stanfield and Firth in as part of a 10 as well as Alan S. Kim in Minari whom Calvin loved. I just hope Louis will consider reviewing him after the re-watch for Laurie and Whishaw.

Calvin Law said...

I’m not saying too much about who I want to get reviewed for Lead because I’m praying that they all get nominated, but yeah we shall see. As for supporting I’m super looking forward to Laurie, Dennehy and Mendelsohn’s reviews.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Speaking of Laurie, any chance you might watch Blackadder 2-4 over the next two months.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Couldn't agree more on Mulligan, the 11 year wait for a 2nd nomination has been absurd.

Bryan L. said...

Louis & Luke: Based on his work in Warriors, how well would Temuera Morrison fare as The Bandit (Rashomon)?

Omar Franini said...

Louis: I’m glad you loved Nomadland. Your thoughts on the score and cinematography? I would give a 3.5/4 to Swankie, i was really moved by her monologue and really liked every little interactions she had with McDormand.

Louis Morgan said...

Watched the Father, which I thought was terrific. Florian Zeller's direction I think deserves special notice, as despite having a far more claustrophobic setting, feels FAR more cinematic than George C. Wolfe's rather basic direction of Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. This as it so effectively, particularly in the use of editing and sound, powerfully puts you into Hopkins's character's perspective creating a deeply unsettling but also rather heart-wrenching depiction of a man's mind slowly decaying. Although technically still built upon the acting, which is essential to the film's power, it doesn't just coast on it, and if I didn't already have the knowledge that it was a play, I don't think I would've immediately guessed it as such.

You know who I'm saving.

Colman - 5
Sewell - 3.5
Poots - 3.5
Gatiss - 3.5/4
Williams - 4

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

So glad Colman and Hopkins have one more 5 each :)

Louis: Your thoughts on Colman and the rest of the cast?

Luke Higham said...

Incredibly happy for both actors.

Is Colman Lead or Supporting.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Colman borders for much of the film, but in the ending convinced me she's supporting.

Maybe.

Bryan:

I could certainly see it, as he has the right presence/intensity.

Omar:

Quite the year for Ludovico Einaudi as both this and The Father's scores are brilliant contrasting scores. Nomadland's being very much befitting the film itself in that it seems minimalistic yet almost covertly grand. This as he overlays the piece with simple yet haunting piano melodies, yet supplements them with what are really almost sweeping orchestral ideas that he underlies within them. This marvelous mix between the two as grants a intimate lyrical quality to the film, yet again, there's this immense almost hidden weight within it.

Joshua James Richards's cinematography is fantastic, and again suggests the greatness of Zhao's work again, as it is this fascinating sort of covert grandeur to the piece. This as it is shot with a seemingly naturalistic aesthetic in terms of lighting and just the composition of shots that often evoke just someone being within the crowd or an onlooker. Again Zhao does, what I am always thankful for, is never is this an excuse for being ugly. Again, this equally suggests one of perhaps great attention to detail, despite seeming like little, as the shots are gorgeously composed with capturing such gorgeous natural moments of light. Again the ease of the seemingly hypocritical juxtaposition is marvelous.

And I would agree on Swankie.

Tahmeed:

Colman - (Amazing work, that sadly I think could be overlooked by truly how supportive it is of the piece, though powerful and remarkable in its own right. This as Colman on the surface of her work places the supportive and happy face of the daughter who is always just trying to comfort her father's existence. Within that though Colman is amazing how much nuance she finds in the moments in and around this expression of support essential. The moments where she falls into heartbreak where she finds moments both of concern for her father and that of personal vexing frustration. Colman's work creating a remarkable sense of detail, even though it isn't overly spelled out, both her trouble and love for her father that is brilliantly realized in her work. Again I think the subtly of what she's doing could sadly leave her forgotten, but this is exceptional work that should be recognized.)

Sewell - (Kind of playing off his typical presence to an extent. He does it well in the main moment of that, but also is good in the moments of just creating the honest sense of frustration of the man being held in place by another problem. He doesn't overplay those moments though finding enough of really a softer buffer in these moments.)

Poots - (Wonderfully seemingly ideal in her moments though in turn also seeming a bit much in the right way. This seemingly as the perfect kind of caregiver that she brings the right sunny qualities to, and is also quite affection in her particularly moving reactions towards the more horrible moments of attack against her.)

Gatiss - (Great in just how nearly demonic her seems at times. This creating such a powerful sense of distress in his very presence in his biggest moments. He's good though in his other moments though of seemingly portraying just a more average kind of frustration.)

Williams - (Very good in her initial scene of matching basically what one of her co-stars had done. Later though she is fantastic in her moment of bringing a very specific kind of warmth and comfort. This offering the moment an essential bit of humanity that is particularly moving and needed.)

Luke Higham said...

Bryan: I think he would've been fantastic in his own right.

Anonymous said...

Damn, sounds like Hopkins might have it in the bag.

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: What would be your thoughts on these musical tracks?

Emerald Heroes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTKatLk2TWY

Dangerous Gaze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLnPg-Gtas

Mighty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmpEABVoqmk

Turtle and Toad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGSPpqIiGVE

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: It's Mikkelsen vs. Hopkins for the overall, Hopkins vs. Boseman for the actual win.

Anonymous said...

Louis, could Melvyn Douglas go up for I Never Sang For My Father.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Are there any performances that Ryan Reynolds could get reviewed for?

Luke Higham said...

Lucas: I'd like to see one of his Deadpool turns get a review though I'm not gonna push for one during the bonus rounds.

Bryan L. said...

I recall Reynolds being good in The Voices, though probably not review-worthy.

Luke Higham said...

Happy New Year!

Matt Mustin said...

Does anyone have a convincing argument about whether Fonda is lead or supporting in Once Upon a Time in the West, because I'm torn.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: On my last watch, he felt more supporting than lead. The entire film feels like it’s Harmonicas’ story to me, with Robards & Fonda still being important to the narrative, but with Bronson at the center of the crux of the film. Plus, Harmonicas focal scenes feel like they have a bit more “oomph” than the the ones with Robards/Fonda.

I’m open to any rebuttals about what I just said above, but that’s my take.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I know I didn't *directly* answer your question, but I just tried to bring another angle to the argument.

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: And that is the logic for putting him in supporting, but I also feel that his parts of the story (i.e. his scenes with Ferzetti and, I would argue, even his scene with Cardinale) are entirely lead by him.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: Yeah, admittedly it's a tough one to sort out. Fonda also has the scenes where he's discussing business with Morton, plus the other ones you mentioned & his introduction.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: could Molina go up for PYW? I think it might be my favourite one scene wonder of the year.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Yes.

Calvin:

Yes.