Wednesday 4 January 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1949: Ray Milland in Alias Nick Beal

Ray Milland did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying the titular character of Alias Nick Beal, or so he says. 

Alias Nick Beal retells Faust in the then-modern setting through the style of a film noir. 

For much of the film, we follow district attorney Joseph Foster (Thomas Mitchell) as he tries to take down a crime boss. His best source is a mysterious man who called himself Nick Beale, you might find him a little suspicious as he appears quite eerily on a foggy dock and whistles in a rather peculiar way. Ray Milland was a performer with style, and when locked in had a way about the screen like few others. Milland comes into the film with this style as he just casually dominates the film the moment he wanders into a strange bar speaking in enigmatic tones and Milland delivering every word with otherworldly confidence. Mr. Beal offers what is too good to be true to Foster, exactly the evidence he needs. Milland is brilliant in the ease of his manner as he talks about his lead, as he very well just might be an intelligent journalist with a natural calm, of course, it may be more as there's just enough of a glint in Mr. Beal's eyes. Of course, the evidence is slightly illegal, and as much as Beal's offer is simple, when Foster questions what it is for, it is out of sight where Milland's eyes fixate on the idea of Foster breaking his moral code and taking the evidence, after all having claimed he'd be willing to forfeit his soul to nail the crime boss. 

Milland makes an initial potent impression and leaves a cold chill on the film with the way he suddenly appears quite unexpectedly again. Despite the unexpected entry, Milland is brilliant by not overplaying any obvious sinister quality as he talks with Foster. Milland's ease actually is what seems to create a certain chill in the air, just in the sheer confidence of it all. Milland though doesn't immediately surprise rather he plays with a sense of the interaction, as there is a genuine charm Milland brings as he speaks a strange kind of admiration for Foster, particularly when it seems like Foster may be showing any morality. Milland's manner is dishonest yet convincing as he praises Foster for the seeming integrity of the man, as he insists he'll admit to his shortcuts before running for governor. Beale disappears again only instead seeming to look for the potential use of a woman of a certain repute. Milland speaking towards her looking for a service, though in his expression isn't that of a man looking for lust for himself but rather a greater plan. Milland's lack of hesitation at any moment, is so remarkable, as he presents Beal as a man who just seems to know. When he blackmails her with an earlier crime, Milland doesn't lose a breath or even need to force the more nefarious intent, he just mentions it as though it would be natural for anyone to have such crimes in their past. 

What Milland does is wholly realize the suggested concept of Faust meets film noir. Milland gives an immensely stylish performance that is so distinctly in the shadowy tone of the noir, and with such an innate power and menace that is so fitting to a noir. Milland displays this natural power of persuasion in every moment of breaking down Foster's morality. When he pushes for his hired hand in the prostitute whom he instructs in her method to take Foster down more. Milland brings this distinct sense of joy in breaking down the act for her giving her the cues and presenting this all as Beal's true joy in his existence. Milland though is just mesmerizing to watch here in the distinct style he brings. The way his eyes go about a scene with this omnipotence but also how he always stands in a way where he isn't quite part of a scene exactly. His manner is entirely separate from anyone other than his own. Milland creates Beal as this force within the film who captivates with such ease and in turn; Milland captivates the viewer with such ease here as well. 

Milland's performance, if one hasn't guessed so far in this review, is the devil. Milland's performance though is all about not playing into any obvious choice in playing him as the sinister force. Rather Milland presents Beal with a decidedly modern bent, even beyond the time which features his performance, by presenting the state of the man more so as a political power broker than any kind of trickster, though he is that in reality. Milland presents his Beal's trick though as something slicker and in a way more appealing to most, by just suggesting the amoral choices with the panache of the greatest of salesmen. Milland is more smooth than obviously wicked as he does command every frame he's onscreen, however, it is with that ease and strange kind of grace even. Beal's temptations presented with just a sly and eager understanding of the situation. There is no reason to second guess Beal's offering because Milland makes the offer as something that just seems to innately make sense and even while his glare speaks towards a man who is getting more of it than he is claiming, the claim he's making seems so insignificant in the modern day. The only break in this are moments where others attempt to treat him as any sort of man by touching him or making offers to him. Milland uses these moments brilliantly in a way to reveal himself most by presenting such direct disgust towards them as though they aren't just lower than him, they are lower beings not worthy of approaching what he is. Milland's reinvention of the devil here is exceptional, and I would say likely influential to other later versions, because he is a man with horns, however hidden within a charismatic veneer, a true seductive quality that isn't at all the obvious fiend. 

139 comments:

Matt Mustin said...

I hear so much about Ray Milland, but I've never seen anything he's been in yet.

8000S said...

Louis: Who do you think are the best actors to have never played the Devil in anything?

If you can, a top 10.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: On the other hand, what are your top 5 favorite portrayals of the Devil in film?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Decision to Leave is a masterpiece. Park Chan-wook is easily my Best Director choice now, and Park and Tang are as phenomenal as advertised.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of Saint Omer.

Anonymous said...

Louis, your thoughts on the trailer for Renfield.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
After the post by Harrelson and Weaving, Louis was able to analyze the entire 2010s even though he had to review the years 17, 18 and 19. I think we can make an assessment of Louis' choices in Cinematography, Score and Director.

Top 10 Best Cinematography:
1. Blade Runner 2049
2. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
3. Skyfall
4. Silence
5. Inside Llewyn Davis
6. Only God Forgives
7. The Lighthouse
8. Birdman
9. Cold War
10. Mad Max: Fury Road

Top 10 Best Score:
1. The Social Network
2. Phantom Thread
3. First Man
4. Only God Forgives
5. Gravity
6. The Wind Rises
7. Mad Max: Fury Road
8. Mandy
9. Dunkirk
10. The Shape of Water

Top 10 Best Director:
1. George Miller - Mad Max: Fury Road
2. David Fincher - The Social Network
3. Bong Joon-ho - Parasite
4. Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
5. Denis Villeneuve - Blade Runner 2049
6. Ciro Guerra - Embrace of the Serpent
7. Martin Scorsese - Silence
8. Joel & Ethan Coen - Inside Llewyn Davis
9. Alfonso Cuaron - Gravity
10. Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk

Tell your Tops 10.
To be continued ...

Aidan Pittman said...

Since BAFTA longlists will be announced tomorrow I thought I'd share that they changed up rules for the voting process again for those here who weren't aware. Juries still involved, albeit with not quite as much influence as before and some categories had their number of longlisted films allowed changed: https://www.bafta.org/media-centre/press-releases/2023-ee-bafta-film-awards-rules-guidelines

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I man that feels a bit roundabout way to ask my favorite actors, as the devil is a prolific role but not *that* prolific.

Oliver:

1. John Goodman - Barton Fink (If you accept that interpretation)
2. Walter Huston - The Devil and Daniel Webster
3. Ray Milland - Alias Nick Beal
4. Robert De Niro - Angel Heart
5. Max von Sydow - Needful Things

Luke:

Kagame - 3(Her performance is largely subdued and almost entirely reactionary, which I thought she was more than fine with but also limited as such.)

Malanga - 4.5(Her performance is very interesting in how seemingly cold and closed off it is at times is the intention. There is an effectiveness in realizing a very specific tone within her work because she does still suggest what her character is going through even as she reveals how detached she also is from her crime in a certain sense. It is a compelling turn because it isn't in itself going for a simple sympathy in the slightest. She is a frustrating figure in many ways but she maintains humanity within it.)

Petit - 3.5(Like a Matthew McConaughey in A Time to Kill, not crazy about the actual writing behind the summation but she delivers it well.)

Aidan:

Well I'm glad there will be three nominees at least from the general vote (personally if they want to protect guaranteed diversity they should just have two jury saves that can extend the nomination list to seven if they feel it is needed, but may or may not be used but have a five set from the general vote as the baseline), which improves BAFTA's prediction power quite a lot.

And glad director now also has at least 2 nominees from the general vote, rather than the none from before.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Malanga supporting.

And thoughts on the Renfield trailer.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

No she's lead.

Unfortunately the promise of the leads and the potential premise seems kind of bogged down by what looks like kind of Sony non-Animated Marvel movie, particularly the action and also the comedy, both which look very generic.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Update on my Top 10 prediction of Louis' lead actor in 1949:
1. Mifune (Stray Dog)
2. Milland
3. Mifune (The Quiet Duel)
4. Farrar
5. Ryū
6. Cagney
7. Douglas
8. Price
9. Shimura
10. Cotton

Bryan L. said...

In regards to the Oscars discussion from the previous post, I echo everyone else’s points, though I’d also add that it’s cool whenever a talented, under-the-radar performer/filmmaker breaks through. Seems like we might see several first-timers join the club in a few weeks.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your TV top 10's for 2022?

Oliver Menard said...

So after watching Banshees for a second time I'm still unsure of the high praise for Barry Keoghan. The screenplay gives him some good dialogue and his line deliveries are all very funny, but it's a fairly one note performance for me. I didn't see any wide range in his work like what his co-stars were doing. Of course his scene with Condon is the money scene and he delivers there, but I just don't see how he's on the level of Farrell, Gleeson, or Condon. He'd be a strong 4 for me.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Oliver: The character’s conception rubs me the wrong way in general. The “village idiot” trope is so retrograde and ableist, and I don’t think his approach remedies it either. Sometimes he comes off as cloying. The only moment that fully worked for me was “That’s the meanest thing I’ve ever heard”. I haven’t seen Whishaw, but otherwise Keoghan is really the only major Supporting Actor contender I wasn’t a fan of.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Oliver and Robert: Preach!

Anonymous said...

https://variety.com/2023/film/global/bafta-awards-2023-film-longlists-1235480633/ The BAFTA longlists were announced.

Louis Morgan said...

Wow BAFTA did not like the Fabelmans. No Spielberg, Dano, Hirsch, or even John Williams.

Louis Morgan said...

Also:


Some major misses for:


Avatar (Only sound, VFX and PD)
Women Talking (No Film, No Buckley even)


Major Gains for:


All Quiet on the Western Front (Basically hit everywhere it could)
Banshees (Basically hit everywhere it could)
Elvis (Hit everywhere including Hanks.....).
Maverick (Basically hit everywhere including Kosinki for once)
Living (All the key hits including Aimee Lou Wood)


And I would say this has potentially slimmed the likely winners. Probably the likely nominees, though one can miss the longlist and still make it (Cruz did it last year).

Robert MacFarlane said...

I think Jackman is done now.

Calvin Law said...

Great to see Decision to Leave make it in for Director, Editing, and Screenplay.

Louis Morgan said...

And per acting categories:

Actor:

I'd SAG determines it. Butler, Farrell, and Fraser are all in the same position. Nighy helped all the more, particularly by the other support for his film. Cruise and Mescal both hang around as the fifth spot. I guess you can take the rest of the longlist as the dark horses, Dickinson (No), Kammerer (maybe if All Quiet really goes big), McCormack (No BAFTA only), Kaluuya (I mean the academy does love him, so maybe).

Actress:

Blanchett, Yeoh, Williams, Deadwyler all supported. BAFTA only I'd say with Manville/Thompson. Davis could be the five. Good get for Chastain. Hey, there's Ackie (never fully count out a McCarten performance). De Armas now has the Globe and this is not bad all things considered. I'd say probably the end for Colman (though BAFTA after so much love has had a habit of snubbing her recently), and maybe Lawrence as well. I'd say #5 is still up in the air though the top four seem pretty strong or strongish at least.

Supporting Actor:

Gleeson and Quan are close to locks as a lock can be. Keoghan seeming safer. I don't think Dano or Hirsch are done, but this did hurt them a lot. Redmayne was likely to get here but still good for him. Hanks, like the real colonel, has to screw everything up, terrified he might show up at SAG too. Don't think Harrelson gets further but certainly a bounce back of sorts. There's Pitt, and therefore shouldn't be counted out. Again Schuch would need All Quiet to be huge but hey you never know. Ward seems BAFTA only. Whishaw I think was helped by it being BAFTA but still notable he made it when his film missed many places.

Supporting Actress:

Well, Condon is in legit win contention now, since she is the most consistent performer out of anyone in terms of showing up (and I'm all here for it). Chau needed that and I think she seems very likely as long as The Whale does okay. Bassett has now done a bit better than Jordan but I think she's still on shaky ground. Curtis is now the representation I think, Hsu not even making the long list I think suggests she's done (since EEAO did great overall here). De Leon keeps showing up and I think is feeling like Jackie Weaver in Animal Kingdom. Monae and Mulligan definitely are in it. Wood I think could get in the shortlist but Living would need to overperform with Oscar I think. Thompson is BAFTA only. Woman King did mixed here overall, but a decent get for Lynch, however I think that's probably it for her...probably.

Robert:

Legitimately had forgotten about him looking at the longlists, yeah I'd say he's done.

Calvin Law said...

Lynch probably got in with the help of the British support, but I'm glad she got in anyway. Really hoping that De Leon is actually a thing.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: Do you think Luhrmann could be a thing? He is pretty much getting in everywhere.

Marcus said...

Mescal won a BAFTA for Normal People, so I think he's got a pretty high chance of getting recognized for Aftersun.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yes, I'm leaning towards swapping him and Cameron. I also don't think this is *too* detrimental for Spielberg, because Fabelmans may speak more with the Academy, plus the nature of how Director is done with BAFTA complicates things.

Marcus:

100% same with Whishaw. Still leaning towards Cruise for Actor and elsewhere in supporting. Although I'll say SAG is probably now essential for Hirsch and Dano.

Aidan Pittman said...

Think chances for Dano, Hirsch and Buckley (and maybe Women Talking in general) is gonna depend almost wholly on how SAG reacts. Also pretty sure this could have just secured All Quiet on the Western Front a spot in the Best Picture 10 given its performance here and how well it did with shortlists already.

Also great to see the documentary love here with Fire of Love in Directing and Moonage Daydream in Editing, the latter I'm hoping will suffice come the Oscar nominations even if its a long shot.

Louis Morgan said...

Aidan:

Yes All Quiet is definitely the foreign breakout and we probably should consider Berger making it in Director (which is becoming EXTREMELY competitive).

Luke Higham said...

Paul Mescal has been cast as Lucius in Gladiator II.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

The only changes would be to as Andor as #5 on the series list, and put Stellan Skarsgard as #3 in Supporting Actor.

Luke:

Ahh shucks was hoping for the Nick Cave script...anyway a good start as casts go.

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: On a music related note, what's your thoughts on the following songs I recently stumbled upon?

Far Away - Breaking Benjamin (Can't believe I haven't heard this one until now)
Wake Up - No Resolve
What Hurts The Most - State of Mine (Original song by Rascal Flatts)

Louis Morgan said...

Also final note on BAFTA for now, I would hate it if Fabelmans is getting semi-ignored because Belfast got the recognition last year, as Spielberg's film is so much better (and I didn't dislike Belfast). Then again BAFTA did snub Spielberg for both Lincoln and WWS (though he made the longlist there) so could just be a BAFTA thing,

Tim said...

Mitchell:

Far Away - a pretty standart BB song, which is a good thing mind you. Not just lyrically. Singing- and melody-wise it reminded me a lot of Give Me A Sign, which again, is meant as quite the compliment

Wake Up - No Resolve just keeps on proving themselves. Nice energy, without ever going too big, with a fitting vibe and just a nice sound overall

What Hurts The Most - Don't know the original, nor do this band. That said: Holy Fuck, this is great! This voice is spectacular, the lyrics are moving, the melody catchy and the background music is perfect; never too overbearing but still able to be made appreciated nontheless. I've just listended to this 3 times in a row

Tim said...

That said, what do you think off these songs: (This is making it hard not to repeat oneself, isn't it?)

There For Tomorrow - Hunt Hunt Hunt
Reamonn - Yesterday
Nickelback - Does Heaven Even Knoe You're Missing?
Stroke 9 - Washin' and Wonderin'

?

Mitchell Murray said...

Tim: I agree...it's hard not to share songs/comments about said songs in this template.

Hunt Hunt Hunt - Grabbed me with the opening riff alone, and pretty much kept that momentum going throughout. Good singing, strong beat - simply a solid punk/alternative rock track, and the youthful energy of the band members really shows. Side note: I knew I’d heard “There for Tomorrow” before, mainly from “The World Calling” and “A Little Faster”, the latter of which was apparently featured in a live action “Ben 10” movie.

Yesterday - Definitely lighter than much of the rock songs/bands I’m familiar with, but by the same token, I appreciate the palate cleanser. It’s a fine lighter rock track leaning towards pop, the sort of song I definitely wouldn’t mind hearing on the radio. Funny enough, when I researched the band, it was actually “Supergirl” that first appeared. After hearing both songs, my initial impression is that “Yesterday” has better rhythm and build up, but overall they’re comparable enough in quality.

Does Heaven Even Know You’re Missing? - Ahh, Nickelback…the punching bag of many music lovers. The band who, aside from a few songs that are downright trashy/non-distinct, have honestly far more good tracks than bad. Evidently, this is the most recent song of theirs I’ve heard, and it stands as one of their better ones. The peaks in the melody don’t even sound that dissimilar from something like “Photograph” - it’s just that the lyrics are better written, and the performance is much smoother. Definitely shows the maturity of the band and of Kroeger’s vocals, and to reiterate, I quite like it.

Washin’ & Wonderin’ - Probably my least favourite of these four songs, which I guess is saying something since this isn’t that bad. Certainly has the vibe of a late 90s/early 00s track, and I wasn’t surprised to learn it made an appearance of “Malcolm in the Middle”. Personally, I don’t know if it will have a lot of staying power for me, but I wouldn’t mind listening to it again.

Louis Morgan said...

The Pale Blue Eye lived up to expectations, that is a typical effort by Scott Cooper, where I may like some of the performances, some of the overall aspects of it but too much of it seems like wasted potential.

Bale - 3.5
Melling - 4
McBurney - 3
Spall - 3
Jones - 3.5
Boynton - 3.5
Duvall - 3.5
Anderson - 2

Tim said...

Mitchell: well, giess how i found Washin' adn Wonderin'? While rewatching the show it ran in the first season. I loved the first half of the chorus, but found the second part kind of lacking. It feels like it crescendos to a climax that never really comes. I still like the overall song well enough and found it worth mentioning, but i too consider it the weakest of the 3.

On Supergirl: When a Rock song gets covered as a techno version (in this case by Alle Farben, also german, i guess that's how they found it) and the original gets 6 million views on Youtube while the cover gets 142 million, that does kind of piss a fan of the original band off. I mean, that's just something you have to live with, and as a techno song meant for a summer-chill-vibe, i can't even call it bad, but i do get annoyed when friends get surprised when i tell them who sang the original version (the singer of Reamonn is a Coach on The Voice of Germany which sadly is the only way most people i know have heard of him)

Mitchell Murray said...

Tim: Yah, that would be kind of infuriating for fans of the first track, let alone the writers/singers of it.

If for nothing else, though, I appreciate the introduction to another German music group. Before today, I sadly could only name two heavy metal German bands - "Oomph!" and "Rammstein". From what I understand, both are described as pioneers of the "Neue Deutsche Harte" style ("new German hardness", I believe) of the early to mid 90s.

Additionally, I could only name one song of either band: "Mein Herz Brennt" for Rammstein, and "Ready or Not" for Oomph. So again...the exposure from your side is appreciated.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: Considering how well All Quiet is doing on the longlists and shortlists, what would you say are Berger's chances at getting an Oscar nom? Park and Rajamouli seem out of the running to be the foreign nomination for director if there will be one.

Louis Morgan said...

Oliver:

I don't think Park is out of the running since he got on the BAFTA list and could easily be a director/International film/Cinematography type situation a la Pawel Pawlikowski who got in with another non-English language film. RRR though does seem kind of done though beyond song.

But yes Berger is DEFINITELY in the running, as All Quiet looks like it probably will be a tech juggernaut, nearly definitely adapted screenplay, though the acting branch is typically far too conservative for Schuch or Kammerer to get in, Netflix though is very good at getting nominations...so not impossible as Roma did it.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these deleted scenes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VvW-WgzPkw

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast of The Pale Blue Eye.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Have you been watching any new shows lately?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of Cry, The Beloved Country.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: What do you think about the "wife/relatives/witnesses confirmed it what accurate" argument used to describe portrayals of real life figures? Most notably I've seen a fair amount of people use it in regards to Javier Bardem in Being the Ricardos, even though that performance is not that great at recreating the style of Desi Arnaz.

Matthew Montada said...

Louis: ratings and thoughts for the cast of Jurassic World: Dominion

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

*was accurate

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the NSFC winners.

RatedRStar said...

The Oscar nominations aren't too far away now, only SAG, Bafta and then the Oscar nominations:

I always hope that my favourite film of the year wins an Oscar, since 2017 I have had a little winning streak, Blade Runner won Oscars for 2017, in 2018 First Man won an Oscar, in 2019 Once Upon A Time In Hollywood won 2 Oscars, For 2020 Another Round won an Oscar, For 2021 West Side Story won an Oscar.

I wonder if 2022 will continue that streak, The 2022 Ryans Daughter is almost certain to be my favorite film of the year, I wonder if Banshees can continue that run....

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Oh, wow, Ray Milland made another movie where he was the devil? Awesome! I'll definitely check this out!

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I'd say the first two are potent singular acting moments that might've thrown off the pacing. The third was implied and not needed. The final is fine bit of extra action of sorts but not necessary.

Anonymous:

Bale - (Mostly solid work from him in just bringing his typical hardened presence however there's some later moments where he could truly bring it, and he doesn't really. He's not bad but feels like he's holding back from his A-game a bit.)

Melling - (Very stylized but the style worked for me in presenting Poe very much as a flamboyant southern raised poet. Bringing what for me was the right tone where he manages to be both passionately earnest while also chewing the scenery in a way that creates a bit of levity. He manages to do it in a way that feels in character and doesn't mock. Rather the flamboyance is part of Poe. Has some strong particular moments, such as when he reflects on being the object of ire or a poetic idea, in both you see the most potential the film has to offer.)

McBurney, Spall, Jones - (Both offer various degrees of expected impact in playing the established roles that do a lot of exposition.)

Duvall - (Also there to provide exposition but does it with the most style out of anyone. Great bit of mood setting delivery and its a shame there wasn't a better film to build off of that.)

Anderson - (See here's where you can see the difference with where Melling plays with the style while still being earnest, her performance feels like she's insulting the material to the point she just comes off as a bit ridiculous to say the least.)

Anonymous:

No.

Luke:

Lee - (Gives a more dynamic performance than Jones by showing more humanity within the moments of desperation. We see him genuinely struggle with moments far more and Lee brings a degree of vulnerability that makes his pain far more present. That is naturally realized within his overall frame of still bringing a needed dignified grace and earnest power to his manner all the same. He shows though the way the two sides are of one man, and how the Reverend does wish to be his best, he can suffer from his situation still. It is a moving performance and one that offers a more complex realization of a man dealing with his pain.)

Louis Morgan said...

Poitier - (Find support just by virtue of his presence as a performer.)

Carson - (Doesn't create the impact of Harris nor do you get that sense of the man going through hate to find love in the end which Harris so brilliantly depicted. Carson though still is very much moving in his depiction of grief and presents a man who had just been going through the motions of racism and creates less of an overall revelation.)

Ytrewq:

I don't put much if any stock in them. One being often the individuals may have a reason to "sell" the movie through a vested interest or may just be excited to see a relative depicted. Though also I can say I would not trust all of my relatives to be a good judge of the accuracy of the depiction of myself so even then there is a certain degree of "so they say" but who knows how close they were in some instances. For example with Green Book Don Shirley's brother said certain things about Don Shirley's relationship with Tony Lip which contradicted actually recorded statements by Don Shirley himself.

Matthew:

Pratt, Howard - 1.5(They are so bland and just downright boring in these roles. There's no chemistry, no life to them, they are just kind of there.)

Dern & Neill - 2.5(Both just look lost most of the time, they're not actively bad but they always seem likely they're looking around for something to do.)

Goldblum - 3(The only earnest bit of energy the film can muster and even he is still working against a wave of lackluster moments he has to be a part of.)

Scott - 2.5(I typically like him as an actor but he's just in a lame role that is designed in such a lame way.)

Everyone else is just forgettable.

Luke:

Critics don't make that much of a difference however Farrell, Blanchett, Quan and Condon all are coming in with a ton of momentum that could carry them all through to sweeps.

Also interesting to see Hoss as the Supporting Actress runner-up, and while I'm probably no longer going to predict her (unless she shows up SAG) there definitely is some support and if she gets in Blanchett I think is unquestionably winning. The Tar support in general is quite potent and has been potent, so it will be interesting to see just how well it does overall with the academy, as I think it could go anywhere from 2 nominations to 6.

Also I guess I need to check out No Bears which I previously had not heard of.

RatedRStar:

I'm sure it will get something. I'd say Actor, both supporting (as Gleeson could similarly pull a Rockwell, after Dafoe had led the critics), Screenplay and maybe even score are in play for it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think you should make time for the new Puss in Boots movie, because it’s been a week and I’m still baffled at just *how* much I liked it.

Tony Kim said...

Thanks to all the responses to my question about the Oscars a few days ago.

Louis - what are some performances that sounded good on paper, but you feel didn't work for whatever reason?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I'll definitely give it a go then.

Tony:

Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela
Christoph Waltz as Blofeld
Hugo Weaving as Red Skull
Steve Buscemi as Tony B.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, maybe not the best choice for a 2022 film, but I watched "Bullet Train" tonight...and I'm honestly really frustrated with it.

I should enjoy a film of it's premise/genre, but as I think many of us here can agree, there's a lot working against it. It's over stylized and over directed for one, with some particularly noticeable CGI in the action scenes. Also, cut out most of the flashbacks and convey that information with dialogue/performance - that would've helped the pacing substantially. Really, it's one of those movies where picking one single tone, and a less mainstream approach, would've worked much better. As it stands, it tries to do too much, and ends up being a mess.

As for the ensemble...bless Brian Tyree Henry and Hiroyuki Sanada; They are just on point, and the most engaging members of the cast. Michael Shannon was surprisingly bad, which is not something I either get to say or want to say very often. And Pitt's performance could've been more fitting had the film been a complete broad comedy (I had a similar issue with Chris Evans in "The Gray Man").

Mitchell Murray said...

ALSO...I do find it funny (if a bit sad, honestly) how Karen Fukuhara's most recognizable roles have her saying either very little, or nothing at all.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Here's a bonus rec; I found a very good bootleg of Michael Cerveris and Patti LuPone's Sweeney Todd, and I think this is my favorite production of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t78xKK2UU6o

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Everyone: Your favorite endings of 2022? Mine are:

Beach - Decision to Leave
Beach - The Banshees of Inisherin
Landing - Top Gun: Maverick
Horizon - The Fabelmans
'Sholay' - RRR

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the direction and screenplay of Hitchcock's The Wrong Man.

8000S said...

R.I.P. Owen Roizman

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed:

Beach - Decision to Leave
Cheeseburger - The Menu
Mona Lisa - Glass Onion
lol - TÁR
Horizon - The Fabelmans

Tim said...

R.I.P. Owen Roizman

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Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Thoughts on this 2000s cast for Dr Strangelove with Edgar Wright directing it?

Sacha Baron Cohen/Steve Coogan as Mandrake/Merkin Muffley/Dr Strangelove
Woody Harrelson as General Buck Turgidson
J.K. Simmons as Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper
Stephen Root as Colonel Bat Guano
Matthew McConaughey as Major Kong
Aleksander Krupa as Ambassador Alexei de Sadeski

Robert MacFarlane said...

Swap Harrelson with McConaughey there.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I'll certainly try to check that out at some point soon.

8000's:

The screenplay is a relatively straight forward procedural, that slightly fudges the true story in order to create more drama, and really needed drama as the real story was a case of mistaken identity that took far less time to clear up. The film does what it can to make it personal, show the toll of the events on the man and his wife, and really although it begins a thriller as written it does become more so a drama as it gets closer to the end of the film. I wouldn't say this aspect entirely is the strength of the film, and a weakness in the screenplay is at a certain point it doesn't have anywhere to go at a certain point. It doesn't become bad mind you, but it runs out of steam in the attempt to stretch out the true story.

What makes the film is Hitchcock's direction, which is very different for one of films let alone a thriller. There are the Hitchcock touches such as the opening sequence that is just brilliantly directed in giving us the perspective of the teller. As the film reveals itself though as the man trying to clear his name, that is less about conspiracy and more so about unfortunate bad luck. Hitchcock directs the film with a decidedly unglamorous and rather cold way. Take how he shoots and engages with the atmosphere of the nearly abandoned vacation spot, it is a cold really isolating film in a way that Hitchcock films never are in this way exactly. It's isn't quite docudrama rather it is realistic but a tightening of that to create a palatable sense of loneliness. Hitchcock emphasizes this in the limited use of sound at times, the particularly bleak black and white here and just the complete lack of warmth in any moment. It is easy to see how this influenced Scorsese with Taxi Driver, as where Hitchcock succeeds so powerfully with his direction is giving the viewer this feeling of isolation of this situation, making for not his most pleasant experience but certainly a potent one.

Robert:

Not crazy about Cohen, I'd opt Coogan between the two. I'd concur with the swapping of Harrelson and McConaughey. Root is perfect.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Main reason behind me proposing Cohen is the fact that a few days ago I've watched Who is America, which I consider his best performance. He plays 6 different characters and keeps firing on all cylinders throughout the show's runtime pretty much no matter what.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the casts of Joyland and Funny Pages.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: do you consider Farooq as a co-lead or supporting in Joyland?

Michael McCarthy said...

I just saw Puss in Boots: The Last Wish and enthusiastically second Robert’s endorsement of it. It’s so gorgeous, unique, unpredictable and FUNNY. So much than I’d ever expect of a sequel to a Shrek spinoff.

Matthew Montada said...

Michael: ratings for the cast of Puss In Boots: The Last Wish?

PS: i loved it too :)

Michael McCarthy said...

Matthew: Exact ratings TBD, but everyone is good. My MVP’s weirdly are Wagner Moura and John Mulaney, with Banderas close behind.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Moura and Pugh are my MVP’s, the former in particular might be my favorite villain of the year.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Loved Puss in Boots as well.

Banderas - 3.5
Hayek - 3
Guillen - 3.5
Pugh - 4
Moura - 4
Colman, Winstone, Mulaney - 3.5
Kayo - 3

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you're watching it today, ratings and thoughts on the cast of Ludwig.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:


Junejo - 4(I guess maybe what held back the film for me just a bit, is I never was pulled into the story of Haider fully, though much more than "not at all". It might be in part to this central performance, while definitely good, doesn't quite have the charisma to fully bring you into his place to make it as tangible as one would like. He certainly is effective though in conveying the passion for his secret life against the more sort of pent-up false frustration within his other life. Presenting a man just putting on the bright face against the man living the life that truly represents his true nature.)


Farooq - 4.5(Found her to be the consistently captivating performer in the film as she creates such a dynamic range within a character who isn't always given a lot to say. Farooq though creates such a powerful state of the character who is defined by her frustration in trying to live up to her role while dealing with her husband who obviously isn't living up to his. Farooq realizes this in a powerfully subtle way that slowly builds throughout the film. Creating such potent moments in the scenes where we see her act out which Farooq grants this instinctual kind of id to these moments of really her needs and emotions just needing to come out one way or another. Whether that is in sexual frustration, anger, or in a particularly fascinating scene, manic joy. It is a consistently captivating portrayal of repression that contains the idea yet never simplifies it.)

Khan - 3.5(Gives a dynamic enough presence however the character just kind of disappears at a certain point, that point being when usually you'd think a character would take on a greater role. That does not happen however.)

Peerzada - 3.5(I think the film could've potentially used him a bit more to provide even more sense of his being this kind of dictatorial force upon the rest of the film. He still however provides that energy even if it is more limited overall.)

Gilani - 3(I think gives  a good performance by being the opposite of everyone else, showing someone not defined by secrets like everyone else.)


Zolghadri - 1.5(Don't mean to be overly aggressive or rude, however, found this to be one of those performances where I just hated looking at his face after a while. Again too cool for school is very hard to pull off and I just found his work aggressively unlikable. This is probably the point to a certain degree but that doesn't excuse it for me.)

Maher - 2(Is there some performance of his where he's not a complete hambone? Found him to be as such once again, yelling every line, going bug-eyed at a moment's notice.)

Emanuel - 1.5(His performance comes off as a director's buddy walking off the street and saying some lines with absolutely no acting ability whatsoever. Aka what this is.)

Pais - 3(I mean a lot of his moments felt cathartic with how bluntly he depicted the anger, and for me far more realistically played this heightened emotion than the rest of the cast depicted theirs.)

Calvin:


I felt Junejo was sole lead. 

Louis Morgan said...

ASC Five:

Bardo
The Batman
Elvis
Empire of Light
Top Gun: Maverick

Louis Morgan said...

Happy to see Bardo bounce back from the BAFTA snub (say what you will about the film but it DESERVES to be in the cinematography win conversation). The Batman bounces back after the score snub. Could do without the Elvis nom, but its looking to be a nomination juggernaut. Deakins expectedly shows up, and Top Gun has seemed the most safe throughout the season.

So happy to see Avatar snubbed here. Usually ASC is a strong predictor, and without a potential nominee out of the Spotlight nominees, this could be the five. I'd say The Batman is probably the most vulnerable out of the five (as Deakins doesn't typically miss if he gets ASC). Shame no Decision to Leave, and given it also missed the BAFTA list, I'd say it's done. All Quiet I'd probably say is now the spoiler.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, bit of an off brand question; Does anybody here have any annual/semi regular film traditions (Ex. Watching a certain movie on a certain holiday)?

Me and my immediate family have made it a point to watch "Jaws" every Christmas...

Don't ask me how that started or what connections a summer blockbuster has with Saint Nick. What I can say, though, is I don't mind revisiting that masterpiece, which must have had the stars align for it to be so effective.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: Myself and my father traditionally watch Where Eagles Dare during the Christmas period.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Mitchell: Me and family watch particuliarly dumb comedies on 31st of December. So far we've seen Pink Panther (Steve Martin version), The Dictator (some opted to leave the room) and Meet the Parents.

Anonymous said...

Louis, what are your favorite road movies?

Tim said...

Mitchell: Outside of usual Christmas movies, most of which i watch yearly, nothing really extraordinary, I have come to the tradition of watching Mary Poppins on Christmas (sometimes as a Saving Mr Banks double feature). There's no real connection there, it just ran on Christmas some years ago and i kept it

I also watch When Harry Met Sally and The Apartment on New Years Eve.

Halloween is something i usually avoid because i just don't like that day (And i watch the Carpenter movie whenever i want to) but i often use The Nightmare Before Christmas as an introduction to the Christmas season because it's a cool transition nontheless. Since my list of Christmas traditions expands yearly i watched it sometime late November last year

Anonymous said...

Louis, ratings and thoughts on the cast of Ludwig.

Thoughts on the Costume Design, Production Design and Cinematography.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Visconti as a director and your ranking of his films that you've seen so far.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your Category and Ranking placement for Romy Schneider.

Anonymous said...

Luke, your top five Jason Isaacs performances

Anonymous said...

1. Mass
2. The Death Of Stalin
3. The Patriot
4. Awake
5. Peter Pan

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Everybody: Do you guys think Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss would make for a good review?

8000S said...

Louis: Your cast for a Kurosawa version of Richard III.

Anonymous said...

What's everyone's predictions for the Golden Globes? Here's mine:
Drama Picture: Elvis
Comedy Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Drama Actor: Austin Butler
Drama Actress: Cate Blanchett
Comedy Actor: Colin Farrell
Comedy Actress: Michelle Yeoh
Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon (though I won’t be surprised if Bassett or Curtis win)
Best Director: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin
Best Score: Babylon
Best Song: Hold My Hand from Top Gun 2
Best Animated Feature: Pinocchio
Best Foreign Film: RRR

Shaggy Rogers said...

My predictions:

Drama Picture: The Fabelmans
Comedy Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Drama Actor: Brendan Fraser
Drama Actress: Cate Blanchett
Comedy Actor: Colin Farrell
Comedy Actress: Michelle Yeoh
Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis
Best Director: Steven Spielberg
Best Screenplay: The Banshees of Inisherin
Best Score: The Fabelmans
Best Song: Hold My Hand from Top Gun 2
Best Animated Feature: Pinocchio
Best Foreign Film: RRR

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Beau Is Afraid trailer.

Tim said...

Foreign Film: All Quiet on the Western Front
Animated Feature: Pinocchio
Song: Hold My Hand
Score: The Fabelmans
Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin
Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis
Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson
Lead Actress - Comedy: Michelle Yeoh
Lead Actor - Comedy: Colin Farrell
Lead Actress - Drama: Cate Blanchett
Lead Actor - Drama: Brendan Fraser
Director: Steven Spielberg
Picture - Comedy: Banshees of Inisherin
Picture - Drama: The Fabelmans

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Berger - (Although I far from loved his work from The Damned, thought he was fairly impressive here in creating the sense of a man who has no sense of place despite his position of the theoretical power. Berger's performance is one that works in crafting an emotional journey within the man's failures. He does portray a genuine passion in his support for Wagner however even in this passion there is this sense of fixation on trying to be more meaningful than it really is. He presents a man so naturally out of his depth whenever an issue realizes itself and fails to take his particular stand. As a passionate fighter for his country, Berger again reveals this desperate passion, now more desperate but again there is no sense of a real command of this passion to be more than it genuinely is. After failing again he gives a tangible sense of the descent of the man towards madness by showing the urge to make anything meaningful and failing. What Berger presents in this descent is the needed humanity, as much as Ludwig is the designer of this descent in many ways, Berger always reveals the very human need for purpose within it all, creating in the end a real tragedy in the failure to find any path of a man who had passion without knowing where to place it. Notable outside of this is his work with Schneider, they have a fantastic non-directly romantic yet intimate chemistry with one another in revealing the connection between the two, who find a certain familiarity in their frustrations of both being stuck within a certain system.)

Howard - (Brings the right kind of boisterous and dominating performance as Wagner. Revealing an interesting contrast to Berger by showing a man whose passion for his work really is very real yet bringing this sort of blithe manner in terms of the way he manages to get it realized. Howard brings the right sort of perfunctory grace towards Ludwig but showing always that there is a means to an end manner to any overtures of real respect. Howard reinforcing consistently someone who is focusing on his own needs all the time and everyone else is a tool in one way or another.)

Schneider - 4.5(I just need to really make sure it is her vocal performance, it seems to be but would prefer confirmation, as if it is she'd be my supporting actress win. Her performance I think actually preemptively bests what Krieps would eventually do this year. I think what Schneider does more is craft a sort of false depiction of the character while also doing everything the later performance would also suggest. She creates sort of the image that one would find in a painting and the general populace may attribute to her. She has the powerful grace in her performance where you are granted sort of that regal power without question, even then as she reveals everything she says subverts it in some way. Schneider's work then is potent in the sort of cutting of the exasperation with the particular frills of her existence and the nonsense of it. Her performance always brings this certain sense of honesty within the dishonest and her eyes always speak towards a lack of any kind of belief within the system she is in whatsoever. Schneider's work is entertaining and lively while also being so cynical quite wonderfully. Schneider has this power within her dismissiveness toward this existence. And again her chemistry with Berger is great in creating a mutual sense of connection within their mutual ill-fitting state. Schneider though is fantastic in contrasting by showing she sets very bluntly her truth of this knowledge against Berger's Ludwig who just goes on creating a certain delusion that is never fully resolved for him.)

Louis Morgan said...

Oliver:

I think what defines the success of a Visconti film for me is always the script because even when I don't like his films I wouldn't decry his work as a director, even in The Damned which I didn't care for however I certainly felt he realized his vision. That is with all his period pieces he crafts a vivid sense of place. A command of the aesthetic in crafting such a distinct visual sense that makes each time and place distinct and tangible. What is notable however is his work began with social realism though with an eye for more direct progression in terms of the plotting, as both Obsession and Rocco and His Brothers are a combination between moments of melodrama and more realistic interaction. The combination isn't a flaw but rather a most daring and often quite effective approach. Visconti's work is very much of the storyteller where what he does, even in his expansive films, is serve character and their progressions with very particular stories. He amplifies that through a mix of specific visual storytelling and just intelligent use of actors interacting on screen. While his films tend to be visually remarkable, it does always seem that is second to serving whatever progression of character or story that he is attempting to relate. Relate is the key word as his approach seeks humanity within whoever the person may be, where they're from, or what they're doing. Other than the Damned, which I did feel was more didactic in its approach, there is a greater sympathy in Visconti's work, even when dealing with often wretched people in terms of their actions.
 
1. The Leopard
2. Rocco and His Brothers
3. Ludwig
4. White Nights
5. Death in Venice
6. Obsession
7. The Damned

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Richard: Toshiro Mifune
Edward: Takashi Shimura
George: Masayuki Mori
Buckingham: Tatsuya Nakadai (A role I think Kurosawa would expand as he did the fool.)
Duchess of York: Isuzu Yamada
Lady Anne: Kyoko Kagawa
Henry VIII: Yūzō Kayama

Luke:

Given I liked but far from love Hereditary and hated Midsommar, this looks intriguing and certainly very ambitious so I hope this one swings in the right direction for me. The trailer is visually something to say the least, but I would say gives off the vibe of either a masterpiece or a complete mess.

Feels redundant to say Phoenix's performance looks like it has potential. I'm glad Only Murders in the Building figured out Nathan Lane makes a great villain, because he probably was my favorite part of the trailer.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of The Cathedral.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I thought everyone was fine, though maybe James was just a little bit much at times. It's very much a director's film.

Anonymous said...

I know the Globes are crap but Angela won. The other award bodies are now going to get lazy and award her too

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: Eh, Aaron-Taylor Johnson won a Globe and that didn't translate to any other wins.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

That used to be more true, remember Jodie Foster won two years ago and was snubbed altogether.

Michael McCarthy said...

Awww, Brendan looks so genuinely happy for Colin.

Matt Mustin said...

Colin Farrell is our Oscar winner. Bet on it.

Anonymous said...

Jodie was in a movie that was barely seen on the states. Taylor Johnson was always going to get snubbed, I mean come on they're going to career award Bassett

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Chill, we'll see if she gets in SAG tomorrow. Globes have no overlap, they were also wrong about Smit-McPhee and Kidman last year. Boseman and Day the year before that. There is plenty of race to still run.

Emi Grant said...

Idk if I should fully buy all the Globes results. They used to be the ultimate metric for Best Supporting Actor, and last year, in spite of picking the best choice for it, that performance couldn't even gain momentum past that.

Still, I'm glad Quan, Farrell, Blanchett, Yeoh, McDonagh, del Toro's Pinocchio and RRR's song are are all being recognized.

Calvin Law said...

Still wary on giving the Globes too much credit, and there's no overlap so people should chill, but these were all very strong winner choices.

Matt Mustin said...

The picture winners at the Globes were both probably what I would've picked, which never happens.

Oliver Menard said...

For what it's worth I thought nearly all of the winners were great or good. The only choice I felt 'meh' about would be Bassett, whose performance would be a 3.5/4 for me.

8000S said...

Louis: I wouldn't want to take those roles away from them, but what do you think of the idea of Judith Anderson and Rock Hudson in Lansbury and Harvey's roles in The Manchurian Candidate?

8000S said...

Louis: Also, your cast and director for a 50's and 60's The Pale Blue Eye.

RatedRStar said...

OMG Ana De Armas and Adam Sandler, wowww lol.

Calvin Law said...

Williams missing out is unexpected, wonder if they'll pull a Waltz in Django on her campaign.

Aidan Pittman said...

Glad that Dano made it in for SAG as this was essentially his last push for any chance at an Oscar nom. Also great to see the Banshees and EEAAO recognition. Sandler showing up is wild especially over Cruise given this is SAG, which makes me think the 5th spot is all the more open than we though and that it could really go to Mescal after all with Aftersun's BAFTA longlist love.

Anonymous said...

Well, I guess Monae's chances at getting nominated for Glass Onion are done.

Emi Grant said...

Damn, the SAG nominations are wild.

- No nominations for any of the Women Talking contenders
- Adam Sandler of all people being taking the 5th spot on Best Actor
- Redmayne gets the 5th spot on Sup. Actor
- No Williams for Fabelmans, no Hirsch either
- Ana de Armas still breathes
- Stephanie Hsu getting a needed boost

The way I see it, Best Ensemble Cast will be the turning point once more. We might look forward to a Banshees vs Fabelmans race after all, with EEAAO being the underdog. Maybe Women Talking bounces back a bit with BAFTA support, but I'm starting to doubt it.

Aidan Pittman said...

Emi: Yeah very interesting how Women Talking was able to still get into Ensemble despite not individual noms, namely Buckley missing. Puts me under the impression that unless she surprises like last year (which will be much harder to repeat since she isn't on the BAFTA long list) the film will take a Don't Look Up-style root, still getting in for Best Picture but getting no acting nominations despite the ensemble being a major selling point.

Hsu I have a feeling won't transfer to the Oscar lineup and that this is more so a sign of EEAAO's strength right now.

Also worth noting that this is a huge boost for Chau who I think is locked in now for an Oscar nom now.

Calvin Law said...

Chau got an incredible boost and I'm delighted. I still think Buckley has a shot, although I think the spoiler potential resides most in Dolly de Leon.

And maybe a hot take, but with Nighy getting in here, I think he's locked as Fraser/Butler/Farrell. No reason to doubt otherwise.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

I quite liked what Sandler offered with his performance, but not enough to deem him worthy of any major nominations from my point of view.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I had feeling Williams might be reverse-Winsleted into Supporting after I saw the movie, and now I think I'm going to predict it.

Louis Morgan said...

Prediction Wise (though remember they went 12/20 last year, however, I'd say the choices were more idiosyncratic overall.):

Ensemble:

Babylon I expected due to the sheer size of it, don't expect it to translate to Best Picture since both Pitt and Robbie missed.

Same with Women Talking which missed all the Women regardless.

EEAO, Banshees, and The Fabelmans are our top three.

Actor:

Fraser, Farrell, Butler, and Nighy couldn't be stronger.

Well, I didn't see that coming so I think #5 is completely open. I don't think it's Sandler, but hey good for him...though I ponder if this is to make up for being ignored for Uncut Gems. I think this is where Cruise should've shown up so I don't think it is him either. I think it ought to be Willem Dafoe at Eternity's Gate type of some sort, but not sure what sort. Maybe Mescal.

Actress:

I wonder if Williams will now change her mind. Deadwyler, Blanchett, and Yeoh are now firmly in the top three. De Armas I think could still miss, but this is a great get for her. Davis I very much expected to get here, but still definitely in the conversation.

Supporting Actor:

Quan, Gleeson, and Keoghan are as close to locks as locks can be.

Dano needed that. I think Hirsch is probably out now (unless he pulls a Dench). I think this could be the five since Pitt should've been here with the ensemble nod, this should've been where Henry shows up. Definitely think there are other cards in play still but this looks like a five that makes sense for the academy. Redmayne is the most vulnerable but I could see him making it.

Supporting Actress:

Condon and Curtis are as close to a lock as possible. With this and her globe win, Bassett seems in good shape, however, I think Wakanda Forever could underperform in some ways, so I don't think she is 100% safe just because there are contenders in best picture nominees floating around still (Hoss for example). The Women Talking Women are probably done, given Buckley couldn't even squeeze in here even with the ensemble nominee. Monae's done as well I'd say. Great get for Chau, I think she makes it now with Fraser. Hsu needed that big time and will say a lot to the success of the film overall.

Louis Morgan said...

Quality Wise:

Ensemble:

Can't complain, though it is hard not to side-eye both Babylon and Women Talking just a bit due to the lack of any individual nods. Although I thought the latter's cast was widely inconsistent, no terrible choices.

Actress:

Great lineup. I'd be cool with this being the final five. Deadwyler, Blanchett, and Yeoh in particular are a hell of a trio.

Supporting Actress:

Chau and Condon mean I love this lineup beyond belief no matter what. Bassett and Curtis I both thought were good, and I don't hate a nomination, I'd be less happy about a win, however. Wasn't the biggest fan of Hsu, but didn't dislike her either.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Having not seen Sandler yet, him getting that 5th spot over Cruise/Jackman makes me a lot more optimistic for Mescal now.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: Is Mulligan done you think? Feels like her film has absolutely zero strength at this point.

Calvin Law said...

Also, the Dolly de Leon/Jackie Weaver potential surprise you brought up before still feels very much in play. On that note, are you ready to give thoughts on the Triangle of Sadness cast?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Woody Harrelson if you're willing to give it.

Calvin Law said...

Was extremely indifferent to Harrelson in Triangle of Sadness personally and am of the belief that he was getting notices purely on the basis of name recognition. Having said that, I'm of the crowd who thinks the film is really bad until the third act where it turns really great through de Leon's performance.

Luke Higham said...

DGA Five
Spielberg
McDonagh
Field
Kosinski
Daniels

Bryan L. said...

Everyone: As we’re aware, Paul Mescal has been cast in two high-profile films recently off his buzz in Aftersun (the Gladiator sequel and replacing the lead performer in Richard Linklater’s ongoing project). Do you think that could improve his chances of getting the fifth slot? As in, the Academy could have the “I got there” first mentality and designate him a new star while the iron is hot, so to speak.

The precedent I’m referring to is how Hayden Christensen was in play for Life as A House, then again, that didn’t happen and his career didn’t take off. Just some food for thought.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Luke: That's a great line up, although I'd have loved to see Park and/or Wells make it. Glad Cameron didn't make it in any case.

Aidan Pittman said...

Luke: That seems about right. Wouldn't be surprised if Cameron or Luhrmann get in over Kosinski, though.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Something that wasn't discussed last night, do you think that House Of The Dragon's win, deserving as it was felt like a makeup for not giving it to GOT during its prime years.

Shaggy Rogers said...

My ranking of DGA:
1. Spielberg
2. Field
3. Daniels
4. McDonagh
5. Kosinski (glad to see Cameron and Luhrmann snubbed)

Louis Morgan said...

Regarding DGA:

EEAO, Banshees and Fabelmans continue as the top three. I wouldn't say McDonagh is safe just because of the nature of the director's branch but he's in a good spot. Field I expected was going to be the last-minute Oscar nomination after a DGA miss, so this is even better for him. And Kosinski finally gets a mention, which again if you love Maverick you MUST love his work, ridiculous in the sense that he's been snubbed so often. That pushes it definitively over the top five.
 
Cameron is done I'd say (thankfully) as this should've been the precursor he got and Polley is done (I feel if there's a push for a female nominee, Wells might have the better chance at this point). I think Berger and Park are in the same place (I didn't expect either to make it here). Luhrmann I think is still around but this was a definite miss on his part. 

Calvin:

I'd say Mulligan is probably done unless she gets BAFTA since she doesn't seem like a jury save, which I'm leaning against. 

de Leon missing here indeed perfectly fits the Weaver trajectory with the Globe nod but the SAG snub, so I will still be predicting her till the, potentially, bitter end. 

Luke:

Not really as Better Call Saul has consistently been the bridesmaid, so that wasn't a surprise to me. Severance was the only one I thought would've taken it over it, but House of the Dragon was more or less as praised as that so it didn't surprise me. If they wanted to "makeup" for not rewarding the good seasons, they could've given the win to the bad seasons like the Emmys did. It really doesn't make sense as the narrative because the main creative teams are different anyways.

Oliver Menard said...

I'm cool with Curtis getting in but if Hsu gets in the Oscar lineup that would just be unnecessary in my opinion. 3/4 of the acting lineups are excellent (outside of Sandler, still hoping for Mescal). Supporting Actress is the weakest of these four lineups but Chau and Condon being there is brilliant. Condon's gotta be a lock but I'm hoping this means Chau gets in.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Hudson I think could work, though I think some changes would be needed as Harvey's character is written as insular and cold, something less befitting of Hudson, and a key to the character in terms of Sinatra's character noticing the brainwashing. I do think though the idea of an "all-American-looking" Hudson falling apart, as evidenced by Seconds, could be something quite special. 


Anderson I feel would be Danversx2, not a bad thing but less unique. 

The Pale Blue Eye 1950's Directed by Charles Laughton:

Augustus: Robert Mitchum
Edgar Allan Poe: Montgomery Clift
The Pale Blue Eye 1960's directed by Jack Clayton:

August: Burt Lancaster
Edgar Allan Poe: Anthony Perkins

Luke & Calvin:

I will say about "Triangle" even after having watched it I knew it was probably a film I would like less if I were to ever watch it again, but as a one and done I liked it. Whereas The Menu in comparison I will be a returning costumer. 

Dickinson - (He, George MacKay, and Felix Kammerer should play brothers at some point. Anyways, I think he gives an appropriately tightly wound "fun boy' performance as someone who doesn't quite want to be a funboy. He expresses the frustration well as this kind of necessary anguish even though he is just as quick to use his "fun boy' status to his theoretical advantages. Dickinson brings an effective hapless energy about it consistently and with enough of a comedic sense.)


Dean - (RIP, sad to every lose a performer who is that young. She gives a fine if limited, performance in portraying just the vapidness with just enough nuance. Essentially giving the not-stupid version of Kate Hudson's character in glass onion. Presenting enough of a certain sense of control within her vapidness at times, and presenting within her moments that ability to manipulate as she does.)

de Leon - (The best part of the film without a doubt and I think in so many of her choices I think she is more successful in not being the cliche of the character. That is I think there is within her work more so a sort of cunning about it from the start of her focused upon section. There is a growth she portrays in thought in a slow sort of revealing that cunning towards control and presenting this singular joy within everything that she does. De Leon presents in a way that allure of the status she cultivates, while just bluntly dominating the sequence with a powerful presence that also has a certain comedic manner in the exact cutting nature of her performance. I think consistently she finds greater depth within the role and I think goes beyond being sort of a figurehead in creating the sense of humanity that informs her certain decisions. Particularly her last one where I felt her reactions were pitch-perfect in showing everything that was going on in her mind at the moment.)

Buric - (I completely enjoyed his sloppy Russian throughout in just presenting a man who loves the power his wealth gives him but also sort of owns up to in the certain slightly self-loathing and slightly but not wholly sleazy manner. I think gives the right comedic manner towards the sort of awareness in his work.)

Berben - (For such a limited performance in terms of what she could say I thought she was pretty great in being able to convey so much in those limitations throughout, particularly in her final scene where I felt she was pitch perfect.)

Berlin - (Kind of often the functional exposition role but I thought she played it well enough, particularly the frustration with her position in both circumstances as the "captain's" aid each separate time.)

Dorsin - (Thought him the appropriate sloppy fool, particularly in the scene where he strangely impresses the women and his "triumphant" manner at the moment that would make Colin Farrell very sad.)