David Warner did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Dr. John Leslie Stevenson aka Jack the Ripper in Time After Time.
Although it is always with sadness to learn of the death of a great actor, such as was the case with David Warner, I will say it makes me appreciate being able to look back at all his work, including his more obscure fair that maybe I would've never discovered if I had decided to stick to this endeavor, that revealed a truly talented individual with a tremendous range of tone, character, and emotion. An example of a somewhat more obscure fair is Time After Time, again a wonderful time adventure film as we follow H.G. Wells (Malcolm McDowell) tracking down Jack the Ripper. A character who opens the film, as we enter his POV, though hear his voice, a certain someone's a very elegant and regal voice that of course being David Warner. Warner's voice probably has one of the greatest of eases when it comes to crafting menace. Here you can see just the way he accentuates "there" at his soon-to-be victim can suddenly denote ill intention, though a different ill intention that the poor prostitute would think of. Warner though voices the killing with the expected distinct edge before we even see the man.
We see the man in flesh as one of the guests of H.G. Wells who wishes to show off his newly invented time machine. We see Ripper representing himself as the respectable doctor with a less innately chilling quality within his voice. Warner though still finds this certain lower-key sinister quality as he speaks towards humans as just predator and prey, and there certain weight upon his brow alluding to his secret even as it appears he's perfectly safe within the presence of the other men. The police appearing leaves Jack to make his escape via Wells's time machine, leaving Wells himself to pursue the ripper alone best that he can. Jack reappears as Wells tracks him to a hotel room where we see the ripper much more comfortable than Wells in the 20th century, seeming a man of the 20th century almost entirely. His seeing of Wells with a certain annoyance that Warner reflects even as he speaks almost as slightly admiring if critical friend towards Wells. When Wells walks past him, loves a little bit as Warner grits his teeth revealing the greatest psychotic edge of the character when Wells is not looking. When Wells attempts basically just to kindly ask him to return, Warner brings this bemusement at the suggestion with a disregarding smile towards Wells's innate goodness and Victorian demeanor. Jack states his refusal by showing the violence within the 20th century, where John tells Wells about essentially being at home where Warner delivers this sort of savoring fervor to the moment. Warner portrays this sort of joy in the sense that he's found a new hunting ground that will be most welcoming to him. Warner brings great relish as John states he's gone from a freak to an amateur through time. After this scene, Warner's character moves more towards the background as the film shifts closer to the romantic connection between Wells and a modern bank teller Amy (Mary Steenburgen). There Warner is fantastic in his glimpses of just showing the peering psychotic drive of the ripper. The glimpses of his performance exudes such vile sort of lustful taste for his killings that he depicts as basically this near sexual drive. This building until he takes Amy hostage as he faces off with Wells. And Warner makes for a good straightforward villain in these scenes by just accentuating the fiendishness of his villainy. Warner cuts deep by being so straightforward in the ease of the character's evil as he pesters and plays with Wells to his own satisfaction. The only major flaw I'd say in the film is the ending climax is a bit simple with Wells simply pulling one key too many while the Ripper is in the time machine, sending him off, in not really all that thrilling of climax. Having said that Warner still is terrific in the moment before this as he and Wells have a moment, and Warner's reaction is great in showing that Ripper understands what is about to happen and essentially accepting finally being defeating in this game of "chess". Warner doesn't require that I really write this terrific work, because that really was the expectation of Warner as a performer. He would always come in, and always deliver, in roles big and small, funny and deadly serious, deeply emotional or cold cunning. A performer one could always depend on and it is a shame that we won't get to appreciate any new performances from him. Thankfully his body of work will never fade, and we will always be able to appreciate the man's great talent.
84 comments:
Love this performance and one of my personal favourite actors. Will be missed.
Louis: As I said before, give him a try in Wallander, its a small role but its easily (along with Branaghs performance mostly) the best thing about that series, he is heartbreaking as a good man losing his mind and turning into a monster.
Louis: With Vanessa Redgrave getting that Oscar nomination for Morgan, I do wonder where Warner finished in the voting? I would have loved to have seen him get Oscar nominated for that despite the film not being that good.
RatedRStar:
Ahh, alas kind of the problem with tv acting (a fundamental though understandable flaw with the Emmys) as where I can find motivation to watch a 2 hour film just for a great performance, an extended series is always the tougher sell. Though for Warner, I might make the exception.
I think #6 was probably Max von Sydow (as Hawaii did very well in nominations though it missed some key categories but had acting supporting with LaGarde's nomination). But I think he might've been either 7 or 8, as I imagine he and Jean Louis Trintginant were probably in the running given the success of their costars, and I don't really see anyone else making a major play that year.
5º Frederic Forrest
4º Yaphet Kotto
3º David Warner
2º Oliver Reed
1º Art Carney
1. Carney
2. Reed
3. Kotto
4. Warner
5. Forrest
1. Carney
2. Reed
3. Warner
4. Kotto
5. Forrest
Killers Of The Flower Moon is likely getting delayed to next year guys.
A very nice tribute. A favourite actor of mine, his Evil in Time Bandits perhaps his most memorable film performance. He also seemed like a very down to earth man who didn’t take himself too seriously. There’s a lovely interview here where he talks about his many film roles with great enthusiasm and no sense of ego.
https://www.avclub.com/david-warner-on-twin-peaks-tron-titanic-time-bandits-1798265384
Luke: I am not sure the source as of this moment is credible, the film did recently screen a rough cut of the film so clearly it is finished or mostly finished, I don't see how a Best Picture contender would premiere at next years Cannes, I would wait until an official confirmation.
Next Goal Wins is definitely 2023 which, I don't know what to say, is this a disaster waiting to happen, who knows.
RatedRStar: Okay, this is getting beyond a joke now. Only had to fix Hammer's scenes and still kept on the backburner.
RatedRStar & Luke:
Although a delay for Scorsese in post-production is true to form, that would leave Apple with few potential Oscar contenders, so they may push for some kind of 2022 run regardless.
RatedRStar:
Particularly after Love and Thunder, the delays aren't a great sign, and I'm starting to believe (maybe unfairly) that Waititi's bought his own hype to his own detriment. Hope I'm wrong though.
Luke: Yes I definitely think there is something fishy going on with this, having seen the new Thor movie, I am really concerned about Taika Waititi. I think he seems to be the kind of film maker that is either brilliant... or terrible, nothing in between.
1.Carney
2.Reed
3.Warner
4.Kotto
5.Forrest
It's unfortunate for Next Goal Wins, as I believed Fassbender would have his comeback. Another movie that will fail for several postponements and lose the hype.
Finally The Whale starts to appear for good.
Shaggy: Well, The Killer is getting released in 2022 as well, if I am not wrong, and is probably going to have the better Fassbender performance of the two either way so he's making a comeback regardless.
Louis: Your thoughts on that stairs scene from Crash. I think that's the type of scene that any talented director/screenwriter would be ashamed of filming and writing and thus, they would scrap it. Haggis probably thinks it's some kind of "deep" scene and is likely not ashamed of ever filming or writing it.
1. Art Carney
2. Oliver Reed
3. Yaphet Kotto
4. David Warner
5. Frederic Forrest
Finished season 2 of Stranger Things, which I pretty much loved, possibly more than the first one. It's got issues, but more than anything I just love spending time with these characters.
Ranking:
1. David Harbour
2. Noah Schnapp
3. Joe Keery
4. Millie Bobby Brown
5. Gaten Mattarazzo
6. Sean Astin
7. Winona Ryder
8. Paul Reiser
9. Aimee Mullins
10. Amy Seimetz
11. Dacre Montgomery (Thought he was awful for 90% of the season until they explained what he was doing, then it all clicked)
12. Natalia Dyer
12. Sadie Sink
13. Will Chase
14. Caleb McLaughlin
15. Finn Wolfhard
16. Linnea Bethelsen
17. Matthew Modine
18. Charlie Heaton
19. Cara Buono
20. The punks from episode 7
21. Matty Cardarople (What the FUCK)
Oh, put Brett Gelman just before Cardarople.
Louis: Thoughts on the trailer for Del Toro's Pinocchio.
Well...
1.Carney
2.Reed
3.Kotto
4.Warner
5.Forrest
1. Reed
2. Carney
3. Kotto
4. Warner
5. Forrest
8000's:
It's a bad scene just in pure execution, which the fall looks silly rather than realistic making a comical moment. The comedy only amplified by just how reverent Haggis's musical choice is in the moment. Of course that goes along with the terrible design of the moment is that basically traumatic (not racially induced) incidents cure racism apparently according to Haggis, or at least it cures the racism of his caricatures only designed to represent contrived ideas of the screenwriter that do not exist as people.
Luke:
Beautifully animated and looks like it wishes to adapt the novel faithfully, so ought to be an interesting departure as animated Pinocchio's go, giving it purpose by not being like the original Disney version. At the very least looks far more intriguing than the Disney counterpart.
Everyone: Just a fun random question...who here shares a birthday with a famous actor/celebrity?
Mine is October 24, which is the same birthday (not year, obviously) as Kevin Kline, F. Murray Abraham and Zahn McClarnon.
Mitchell: Mine's October 3rd, so I share mine with Michael Hordern, Tessa Thompson and Noah Schnapp.
I share one with Orson Welles and George Clooney.
Does anyone believe that Brendan Fraser could win for The Whale.
Anonymous: Well, it's probably going to be Aronofsky's first non-divisive film since The Wrestler so he's definitely going to be in the mix. Sight unseen, if he did go on to win it would be for me personally one of the most heartwarming wins period knowing how down his life and career was going for the majority of the 2010s.
Anonymous:
The role on paper certainly seems very Oscar friendly and most seem to want to see Fraser continue his comeback. So it's definitely a possibility however the film sounds like one that if it's not good it will be very bad.
Mitchell: Mine is December 20 and I share it with Jonah Hill and Todd Philips.
Also I'm interested in how Fraser's role in Batgirl will turn out.
Luke: We share our birthday with two wonderful people, Mohamed Salah from Liverpool FC, one of the best footballers in the world and WWE wrestler Bayley, one of the best wrestlers in the world.
RatedRStar: And two great actors, Alberto Sordi and Erland Josephson.
Luke: OMG Yes, June 15th is a relief to us =D.
Louis: I know numerous people who have nostalgia for Brendan Fraser, on paper this has Michael Keaton/Mickey Rourke energy, I feel that Fraser even in bad films, was never the problem.
Louis: I do have a question, Laurence Olivier is your favourite actor if I recall, at least I think he is your favourite actor, are you planning on reviewing him one final time? maybe for 1939 perhaps, I just feel that it would be nice to see your favourite actor get a final send off. If I ever win another request, I will likely request a final review for my favourite actor.
RatedRStar: That would've been during the early years of the blog. His favour must've shifted to Mifune since then.
Luke: You could be right, it might be Mifune now, I would like to see Olivier again some day though, Olivier was quite fortunate in that most of his great performances were Oscar nominated, I think there must be one more performance that is hidden though.
Honestly, Fraser deserves this comeback after all the shit he has gone through.
RatedRStar: Like Term of Trial?
RatedRStar: The last remaining 'great' film performance of his is supposedly in Dance Of Death (1969) but there seems to be no existing copy of it anywhere.
8000S: How would you rate him in Term Of Trial because every review I've seen pertaining to his performance say he's very good but not tremendous.
The Whale had everything to be more Oscar bait, but with Aronofsky directing I can't believe the movie won't be generic.
Ever since I saw The Quiet American I've noticed that Fraser is like Cruise and Sandler, when he's in the right movie or with the right director it's hardly a bad performance. I hope Fraser also does well in Killers of the Flower Moon.
Louis: LOL, I just found The Dance Of Death.
Please bookmark this link. You will not find it anywhere else. Olivier said himself that this was his best work and is a must for 1969.
https://m.vk.com/video-206518990_456239017
Mitchell: To answer your earlier question, I share a birthday with Olivia de Haviland, Charles Laughton, Farley Granger and Leslie Caron.
Luke: I actually haven't seen the film yet, but I've also seen some reviews of how it supposedly is his saddest performance or something of the kind.
Louis: Your thoughts on Ozu's direction and screenplay of Early Summer.
RatedRStar:
I did watch part of Term of Trial some time ago, and he is certainly a possibility there (and really should re-write his review for Sleuth at some point). And my favorite actor is between him and Mifune.
8000's:
Early Summer in a way might be Ozu in his purest sense in terms of it just really detailing this family so naturally, and just developing their interactions. Again never about the big moments but all just the little moments that create the engagement. His dialogue is particularly notable because it isn't fancy or gimmicky, yet wholly engages you in these people and their stories. His story here though as well doesn't really even have an obvious element it will use to craft the sort of central drama that other works of his do, even if typically ever so lightly, it just is this family lives in a way, and so beautifully told that is. Ozu's mastery in a way is always fascinating to me because he makes many Ozu attempters often seem melodramatic by comparison. Ozu's writing to really get into the genius of it I would need to break down every bit of his work, which I won't do here, but that is where the genius of it is. His direction is similar in that what is it about Ozu that makes his films feel the most intimate, maybe of any filmmaker, and maybe why his films work so well. Is it as simple as the low angle of the shots, no, even that is a key part of it, as he welcomes you into each setting as a participant more than a voyeur into the situation. There's a warmth in his direction in a way that is fascinating despite Ozu rarely showing his hand in an obvious way. He eases the audience into every moment, yet every moment you wholly feel and see as so very tangible.
Louis what would be your 2020's cast for Time After Time?
Anonymous: honestly, i would kind of love if Fraser were to win, But, even though i am usually not the type to predict things before the nominations, right now i would put my money on Hugh Jackman for The Son.
Mitchell: 22nd of July (yes, not even a week ago); same as Willem Dafoe, Franka Potente, Rhys Ifans, David Spade, John Leguizamo, Danny Glover, Selena Gomez and Alan Menken
Anonymous:
Wells: Jack Lowden
Amy: Hailee Steinfeld
Jack: Nicholas Hoult
Hello Louis and folks!
Let's talk about some 1979 movie translations in non-English speaking countries. The names that were in Brazil were:
All That Jazz = The Show Must Go On
Breaking Away = The Winner
Being There = Far Beyond the Garden
Alien = Alien: The Eighth Passenger
Rocky 2 = Rocky 2: The Revenge
10 = Note 10 Woman
1941 = 1941: A Very Crazy War
Time After Time = A Century in 43 Minutes
Starting Over = Encounters and Disencounters (Lost in Translation by Sofia Coppola also has this same Brazilian title.)
Butch And Sundance: The Early Days = The Youth of Butch Cassidy
The Warriors = The Warriors: Wildlings of the Night
Wise Blood = Wild Blood
The In Laws = A High Risk Marriage
The Brood = The Children of Fear
More American Graffiti = American Graffiti: And the Party's Over
BRAZINTERMA: Some of the Polish translations that year were:
Breaking Away-Escaping
Apocalypse Now-Time of Apocalypse
Time After Time-A Travel in Time
Alien-Alien:The Eighth Passenger of Nostromo
Going in Style-In Good Old Way
Hardcore-Two Worlds
The Jerk-The Nutjob (oddly enough that may se like an odd translation, but a bit more fitting than the original title that doesn't fit main character's nature at all)
Kramer vs Kramer-The Case of Kramers
RIP Bernard Cribbins
Louis: Thoughts on Atsuta's work in Early Summer as well as The Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice.
Brazinterma: some german ones are:
All That Jazz - Behind the Limelight
Alien - Alien- The uncanny Creature from a strange world
Being There - Welcome, Mr Chance
A Little Romance - Ich liebe dich, I ove you, Je t'aime
1941 - 1941- What's the way to Hollywood?
More American Graffiti - The Party is over ... an American Graffiti sequel
Going in Style - The Retired-Gang
Wie Blood - The Wisdom of Blood
The Jerk - There's no shame in Fortune
Louis: What was it that made you decide to remove Hamilton from the 2020 rankings.
RIP Bernard Cribbins
Luke:
Felt like the right thing to do as I also removed Hugh Cronyn and James Whitmore from their respective years. The latter being really the main cause for accepting the inclusion of stage performances, but thinking about it, it was the academy that was wrong by nominating Whitmore. I'll admit the Emmys overkill nominations for Hamilton helped to encourage the change, since it does seem unfair for all those performers who shot their performances for the actual medium being snubbed in favor of performances that were being filmed almost incidentally. Additionally given that there are often live movie theater showings of stage performances it does open a whole can of worms, and think it is cleanest only to include performances that were performed with the intention for film.
RIP Bernard Cribbins
Glad Morgan v. Whitmore finally got conclusively resolved. Would have loved to see Diggs remaining in the overall, but I understand that considering all filmed play performances would just be a headache when it comes to the reviews and rankings.
Tahmeed: Othello and Uncle Vanya are still there so I assume they need to be at least rather cinematic.
Luke:
Those two are included because they are indeed films and not filmed stage performances. In terms of techinque they are *almost* filmed plays, but both were filmed explicitly as films without a live audience and so on. Their intention was basically to allow audiences to see popular stage productions, but they were shot as separate enterprises from those stage performances.
Glad to hear that because I was worried for a minute there that Dance Of Death wouldn't be eligible which is in the same vein as those two.
Louis: Thoughts on the Oppenheimer teaser.
Louis:Your 20 best Ray Winstone moments.
Louis, any chance of one or both of The Duellists getting upgraded. Keitel is my winner for the year.
Everyone: Thoughts on the extended trailer for "Blonde"?
I'm all the more excited for de Armas' performance, in that while I heard hints of her native accent slip through, she nonetheless looks to have fully replicated Monroe's cadence, movements and general charm. Hopefully the film will also live up to it's promise, by exploring one of the most recognizable faces of the 20th century, but with more sympathy and depth than a lot of Monroe's audience frankly cared to learn.
Louis: Do you find it in general more annoying when a biopic performance wins an Oscar over a deserving performance of an original character? It so often feels like a popularity contest for the most famous figure.
8000's:
Early Summer is expectedly beautiful work, as always the intimacy is often specifically captured with how effortlessly realized every distinct frame, that is dynamic, yet in such a low key way that is most impressive, particularly in terms of the framing of individuals in a shot, with so many in small rooms yet never seeming claustrophobic which is fascinating. Extra mention is needed for the beautiful outdoor work albeit brief, and remarkable. Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice is also beautifully shot of course, with a different emphasis though on often lonely frames, creating distance from the subject and showing a sense of isolation while still technically in the same overarching style found in Ozu's films. Again brilliant work.
Luke:
Had seen it before Nope, and a stunning teaser in the sheer intensity of it, and I will say I'm really overjoyed that Murphy has finally gotten to take the lead with Nolan. Having said that, just looking to see what the film really *is* exactly, as right now it is not "in Nolan I trust", but I hope this sets him on a good path. I don't want the Oppenheimer film that is only about different visuals around Oppenheimer there needs to be some genuine character drama (which Oppenheimer has plenty of), and Nolan can do it (The Prestige), but he hasn't done it in a while.
Ytrewq:
1. The Proposition - The Proposition
2. Nil by Mouth - Nil by Mouth
3. Wife's Nightmare - The Proposition
4. Attempted Apology - Nil By Mouth
5. At home - the Proposition
6. The Flogging - The Proposition
7. Violent beatdown - Nil by Mouth
8. Argument Over the Flogging - The Proposition
9. Explanation - Face
10. Giving Billy Orders - The Departed
11. Christmas Day - The Proposition
12. Warning - Edge of Darkness
13. Ending - Nil By Mouth
14. You're Sick Francis - The Departed
15. Taking Over - Scum
16. Trying to Refuse Don - Sexy Beast
17. Angry over the theft - Nil By Mouth
18. Meeting Billy - The Departed
19. Not knowing where Don is - Sexy Beast
20. Confrontation - The War Zone
Anonymous:
It's possible.
Mitchell:
Visually stunning of course, de Armas's voice isn't accurate but honestly, I'd prefer a performance that doesn't attempt the voice but delivers on every other level rather than one that gets the voice right but is a completely thin and lifeless depiction. Hopeful but still concerned due to its severe release issues.
Marcus:
To be fair there are some great winners in biopics, but it is a bit disappointing when a really standard biopic turn wins, particularly when the win seems more fueled by "our favorite person" than the actual work, like Malek's win.
Louis: Did you see Ian McKellen's Macbeth.
And All Quiet On The Western Front & Salem's Lot.
Could Henry also go up for Kramer v. Kramer?
1. Reed
2. Carney
3. Warner
4. Kotto
5. Forrest
Luke:
No.
Anonymous:
No.
Louis - Your thoughts on Bob Odenkirk & Rhea Seehorn's acting, Michael Morris' direction, and Ann Cherkis' writing in this scene? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUHvaYEZAI
Also, what did you think of Carol Burnett's performance in "Nippy"?
Louis: Can you give your extended thoughts on tony dalton, patrick fabian and michael mando in better call saul?
Louis: If you have the time, could you give McKellen's Macbeth a watch.
Louis: Your thoughts on the voices of Hideko Takamine, Ayako Wakao, Kyoko Kagawa, Haruko Sugimura, Kinuyo Tanaka and Michiyo Kogure.
Alright, here are my very late predictions:
1. Carney
2. Reed
3. Warner
4. Kotto
5. Forrest
Louis: Also thoughts on Isuzu Yamada's voice as well.
Louis: Your thoughts on 'I Ain't Worried' from Top Gun Maverick?
On the note of the Emmys, Hader and Winkler both submitted 'starting now' for their nominations.
Tony:
Odenkirk and Seehorn are both masterful in the scene because of just how brutally honest and intimate both are in the scene. In that both in the scene show that neither is trying to hide anything, they're trying to be as honest as possible and in that honesty is where Kim needs to admit that they're relationship can't work. The moment of them admitting their love for each other being so warm and genuine yet utterly heartbreaking as it doesn't change who they are as a pair. And greatness in the writing there in being able to realize this scene that never feels melodramatic rather the appropriate end to the two, with the conversation actually saying everything that needs to be said and in such a powerful way. The direction of the scene, which shouldn't be sniffed at, is basically leaving it to the actors to bring the scene to life, you don't need fancy camerawork for the moment all the drama is there in the writing, the characters and the performances.
I liked Burnett's performance as far as it went, in that she was properly doddering and comedic enough without overplaying it. More than anything it was nice to see her in general, and in such prominent show.
Luke:
We'll see but there's a couple films I'll be watching first.
8000's:
Takamine - (An interesting quiet cutting quality in what sounds more gentle overall.)
Kagawa - (One of the most sincere of voice, although the Mifune doc that relatively recently came out was pretty surface overall, her reading Kurosawa's eulogy for Mifune was downright beautiful. Of course as shown by Red Beard she could adjust her voice to something very terrifying if need be.)
Haruko Sugimara - (Kind of a natural bluntness about it.)
Tanaka - (A semi-ethereal quality that is rather wonderful.)
Kogure - (An innate vivaciousness that is always appealing.)
Yamada - (Again another where there is a split as her most known roles is this sort of sinister witch like devious quality, but could sound a lot more gentle like in Tokyo Twilight.)
Tahmeed:
Well as the successor to Playing with the Boys, I actually rather prefer this song, though going for the same sort of extra relaxed summer vibe with the song. And I have to say pulled it off rather beautifully just having an easy going quality in its literally not worrying about it lyrics, but just whistling and the casual bass. Everything about is best described as breezy in the best of ways, and honestly I'd love for a double song nod for the film.
Don't think I've seen enough Wakao.
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