Monday, 4 January 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1970: David Warner in The Ballad of Cable Hogue

David Warner did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Joshua in The Ballad of Cable Hogue. 

The particularly consistent David Warner has seemed game for most anything in his career from more serious dramas towards genre affairs, like his multiple Star Trek appearances, and even comedies. This film being squarely in that final column with Warner perhaps the most comic element of the film, which he is most game for. This as Joshua, a preacher, that we meet as he runs across the titular Cable Hogue (Jason Robards)'s watering hole. Warner who more often played more dignified sorts, even as villains, gets to play around with that presence wonderfully here. This as his magnificent voice and manner certainly conducts the proper facade of a preacher, however his sloppy way of running off to the drinking hole, and his unabashed way of attempting to speak of his own basically con man ideas, Warner undercuts this wonderfully. Warner though finds rather the balance in his moments with Robards in his eagerness and interest in the water has the shades of a palatable greed, however in a way Warner makes this strange endearing by being so falsely coy about it. Warner is so much fun here as he just throws himself into the part, making Joshua strangely likable in this initial scene even as he makes one ask more than a few questions about his claims of being spiritually enlightened, or just really his general moral state as a man. It is as a strange but oh so wonderful sidekick to Robards that Warner makes Joshua, having just the right bit of tempered ridiculousness that finds the proper tone for the film. He's never too much but always just enough. 

Warner initially just showing a similarly minded man who can find the great monetary success in the well placed watery hole, and his reactions, of success by proximity are great bit of unashamed greed. Warner though gets to go further as he goes about "plying" his trade by consoling a "widow" with this religious sense. Warner is hilarious in this scene in portraying with such divine zealotry his speaking of every word to her, that is far more seduction than consoling of a widow. Warner's portrayal bringing just the right disregard for decency by bringing such a striking emphasis in each word through that regal voice of his while also still showing just the utmost earthly lust within his expression. All the better though is the comedy that ensues when the woman's very alive husband returns, with her more than willing to hope that Joshua can "help" her husband. Warner's reaction to that is pure gold of disgust just in his classical farce fear of being caught with his hand more than just in the cookie jar to say the least. His physical work again being just magnificent as he becomes more weasel than man of God, in attempting to run from the room bumping into a locked door. Warner again though being great in switching from a hilarious expression of abject fear, towards that of clear refinement, and a zen like ease as he attempts to "console" both husband and wife now as his way out of the house. Keeping this overt dignity as he leads the prayer, well except Warner's perfectly executed eye movement as Joshua carefully readjusts the wife's garment, he had helped adjust. 

Warner is quite simply a delight, making the most out of every second of his screentime as a proper scoundrel, you can't help but enjoy which is quite a trick on its own. This as even as he hides out with Cable, having successfully fully "consoled" the wife this time, Warner is a grand fool once again. This again in his oh so artful combination of a phony lordliness with his true nature as basically a lusty idiot. This in pleading his case with a pathetic desperation though Warner still comically funneling this through the demeanor of attempt's at grace at every turn. Warner excelling within realizing this duality of the character that is a singularity within his entertaining work. This in wholly revealing what is really a fiendish charlatan as just as he is, but doing it in such a particularly enjoyable and always oddly likable way. Warner again executing every single moment of comedy so well, and I would say no one better in the film seems to understand how to make the film's idiosyncratic tone work. Warner does so as he is always walking a fine line on possibly being too broad, but never falling off into it. This approach rather he uses it to enliven every moment that he does appear. The highlight of this however being however his final scene where he comes in last second to find a dying Cable, wounded fatally by an out of control automobile. Warner's amazing in this scene as Cable calls on Joshua to give his eulogy while Cable still lives. Warner's reactions are key though in sensing in each one, every little admiring glint, just showing a natural honest friendship between he and Cable over their mutual misadventures, that doesn't need to be stated however instead is so naturally exuded by Warner's performance. Warner though then goes into with a marvelous showman's manner of speaking towards Cable with great affection but also a nearly over the top grandeur. Warner selling the man almost as one would speak of a legend of old rather than a living man in front of us. This before the film cuts to Cable's actual funeral, and Warner is outstanding as he changes his delivery from that of the showman, that still undercut Joshua's virtuousness, and instead now finally speaks as an actual preacher for the Lord. This as Warner delivers with a somber and understated conviction of a man genuinely remembering his friend, and offering his case up to the heavens. This is a great performance by David Warner, that makes proper comical use of a more wild off-beat energy for, while also still offering that specific power of his presence, however here brilliantly subverted to give just give a truly memorable portrait of a rouge preacher.

63 comments:

Luke Higham said...

And he is fiveless no more. One of the most underrated actors of all-time.

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Not saying it needs to happen, but if someone were to attempt another live action "Street Fighter" movie, who would you cast as Ryu, Ken, Gouken and/or Akuma?

Aside from the obvious choices of Ken Watanabe and Hiroyuki Sanada (Perhaps as the latter two characters), I'm open to pretty much any suggestion.

Michael McCarthy said...

Boink.

Mitchell Murray said...

Michael: Je ne suis pas

Calvin Law said...

Well, Minari finally won its first Best Picture on the awards circuit which is nice (though NCFCA isn't that significant in the long run, still nice to see) and I'm all for Zhao continuing the awards circuit. It's ridiculous that I still can't feel comfortable with Youn being a lock though, which is a shame because if this was Glen Close for Hillbilly Elegy winning awards left and centre we'd already be considering her a lock for the win. Boy, I hate Hollywood sometimes.

Oh, and Warner is brilliant here, delighted to see him finally get a 5. And does anyone else think he looks a bit like Donald Sutherland here?

Anonymous said...

And he will likely get another one for time after time (and so will Malcolm McDowell who will likely beat brad dourif for the win)

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I'd give him a 4.5 for Time After Time and a win is very unlikely.

Luke Higham said...

Referring to McDowell, not Warner.

Anonymous said...

Louis: If you don't mind my asking, have you monetized the blog? Just asking, because if you have, I'd definitely keep my adblocker off on your site.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Supernova trailer.

Anonymous said...

Luke, Your top 5 Meryl Streep performances.

Luke Higham said...

1. Evil Angels (A Cry In The Dark)
2. Sophie's Choice
3. Silkwood
4. Fantastic Mr. Fox
5. The Post

I only saw the first 2 episodes of Angels In America.

Matthew Montada said...

Just finished watching The Personal History Of David Copperfield. Yet another film i loved. Armando Ianucchi NEVER disappoints. Here is my Letterboxd review for my full thoughts:

https://letterboxd.com/matt_0515/film/the-personal-history-of-david-copperfield/

Also, here are my ratings for the cast:
Dev Patel - 4.5
Jairaj Varsani - 3.5
Hugh Laurie - 5 (my pick for Best Supporting Actor of 2020)
Ben Whishaw - 4.5
Peter Capaldi - 4
Tilda Swinton - 4.5
Morfyyd Clark - 3.5
Daisy May Cooper - 3.5
Rosalind Eleazar - 4
Aneurin Barnard - 4
Benedict Wong - 3
Paul Whitehouse - 3
Gwendoline Christine - 3
Bronagh Gallagher - 3
Aimee Kelly - 3
Anthony Welsh - 3
Darren Boyd - 3
Nikki Amuka-Bird - 3

Luke Higham said...

Matthew: It'll be such a pleasant surprise if my request gets the win. :)

Anonymous said...

Luke, how many fives do you expect for 2000 Lead/Supporting actor?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Those that I think could are:

Supporting: Phoenix, Considine, McDowell, MacLachlan and Ogata

Lead: Hanks, Echevarria, Lavant and Sol

Luke Higham said...

I'm really unsure about Song and Lee in JSA as it's so early in their careers and at a time just before South Korea really dominated Asian cinema.

Luke Higham said...

Maybe Jason Isaacs in The Patriot as well.

Bryan L. said...

Predictions for Louis’s 2020 Best Director choices, anyone?

Unranked:

Thomas Vinterberg
Florian Zeller
Charlie Kaufman
David Fincher
Esmerald Fennell

Other main contenders: Justin Kurzel, Chloe Zao, Richard Stanley, Thomas Kail, Lee Isaac Chung, Rose Glass (total wild card here)

Luke Higham said...

Bryan: I know you gave Nomadland 4 stars but Louis did say not long ago that Zhao's direction was greater than Fincher's.

Bryan L. said...

Luke: Oops, I forgot about that. My mistake.

Thomas Vinterberg
Florian Zeller
Charlie Kaufman
Chloe Zao
Esmerald Fennell or David Fincher

Calvin Law said...

My guess:

Chloe Zhao
Florian Zeller
Thomas Vinterberg
Lee Isaac Chung
Emerald Fennell

Calvin Law said...

Also with every passing day I think more and more about how Zhao would be one of the best winners in recent memory and how the Academy could be just awesome again if they really do go through with it. I’m just terrified that she’ll lose momentum with the major awards.

Bryan L. said...

I should note, I’ll probably add another half-star to Nomadland soon, I just want to let it grow on me.

Anonymous said...

Also am i the only one on this blog that feels dafoe in shadow of the vampire is supporting?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

It is, albeit only in a minor way, but I appreciate it.

Luke:

Although not really regarding the performances, but the rest, particularly how the trailer structured it, looks maybe a little corny, and at the very least is probably far less dynamic than The Father in terms of its depiction of a man with Alzheimer's. Having said that even if probably predictable, it really depends is how authentic is it when it actually plays, so I guess I'll see. I will say it definitely looks like Tucci and Firth are co-leads.

Calvin:

I'll say as much as I've been a foreseer of doom regarding Minari's overall chances, and do think Nomadland can be supplanted as well in picture, I feel strangely confident in Zhao taking director, just by the way the category really has been refashioned last decade as the separate entity from Best Picture. I feel if Zhao's vision is heralded as the pinnacle of the year, which the critics have done, they won't dispute it, like how Roma's directing win was NEVER in question while the picture race was competitive that year. It helps that there isn't an easy alternative in that regard. Fincher for example, is more loved by the critics than the academy overall, and right now the critics are not coming out for him.

Mitchell Murray said...

At the risk of having to repost this later, I finally have a performance for my winning request: Alternate Best Actor 2006 - Patrick Huard for "Bon Cop, Bad Cop"

I watched the film today purely on a whim, and found it to be a very enjoyable (if familiar) addition to the buddy cop genre. Of course as a Canadian, I'll also admit to appreciating the movie's concept right from the start, along with it's many in jokes regarding Ontario-Quebec relations. Also, if you wanted to do a double review to include Colm Feore, I wouldn't be opposed.

Anonymous said...

Luke, your updated 2006 Lead lineup.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I might have to extend if we get more than 5 requests in this category.
Timothy Spall - Pierrepoint (I'm pretty sure Louis is eager to review him there)
Joseph Gordon-Levitt - Brick
Ben Whishaw - Perfume (A fantastic piece of work from him)
Vin Diesel - Find Me Guilty (By all accounts, his best work by far)
Mads Mikkelsen - After The Wedding
Bonus: Sacha Baron Cohen - Borat
Patrick Huard - Bon Cop, Bad Cop (Quite the obscure choice there Mitchell though those Letterboxd reviews have filled me with dread)

Anonymous said...

Luke, If you had to extend, what would be your other 3 options.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
Song Kang-Ho - The Host
Toby Jones - Infamous
Aaron Eckhart - Thank You For Smoking

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: It's not obscure to us.

Luke Higham said...

Matt: Well, outside of Canada then. :)

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: Dafoe probably is supporting, actually.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: I've never really looked at Letterboxd, but I can say that the film's 78% Rotten Tomatoes score is about right.

I can also say that I liked the film despite it's problems, namely some editing choices/tonal shifts and a rather insufferable villain (Both the character and actor). Again, much of it's appeal comes from the movie's observations on French and Ebglish Canada, to the extent where the film's dialogue is evenly split between both languages. The two leads are also good, and I specifically cited Huard for his funny- and in one instance emotionally moving - work.

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: Here here.

Anonymous said...

Louis, what is your argument for Dafoe being Lead.

Michael McCarthy said...

I know I’m a few hours late to this but I saw Joint Security area a few months ago and it’s GREAT. Lee absolutely deserves a 5 when 2000 comes around.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Happy to hear that. :)

What about Song.

Michael McCarthy said...

Strong 4.5 I’d say, and easily review-worthy.

Emi Grant said...

Luke: I've thought about requesting Song Kang-Ho in The Host myself, but I do think he has had stronger work and I think it's more openly comedic than his other performances. I think he has better chances with JSA than The Host. I'd still enjoy that review, though.

Also, I'll say it again. Matt and Mitchell might actually be the same person. Wake up, people.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well let's begin with screentime. He has almost 37% screentime which puts him squarely in the borderline range on that quantity, and usually with that amount supporting performances are part of an ensemble, or are with a dominant "clear" lead. I wish I knew Malkovich's screentime, but even without it, I can say Murnau isn't that type of lead. This as Murnau doesn't dominant the narrative over Schreck, his own scenes are typically part of the ensemble or with Dafoe. This also isn't a ensemble, the main roles are firmly Schreck and Murnau. This is as Schreck has plenty of his scenes to himself without Murnua, most notably the campfire scene or the scene where he's lurking about the motel that is from his perspective. Finally let's take the "Dracula" factor, the nature of the role rarely is one that has a ton of screentime, as leading roles go, whether that be the actual Schreck, Lugosi, Oldman, Langella or Kinski. The character drifts in an out but has a major impact, with the film being unquestionably about him each time, as he dictates the narrative in each of his appearances. The one major time I have put Dracula in supporting is Lee, and that's because he's BARELY in the film, that isn't the case for Dafoe. Dafoe is the dominating force like the other Draculas, who don't have the most scenes, but are without a doubt the most important to the story.

Mitchell Murray said...

Emi: Why do I get the feeling that this is how you imagine me and Matt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pPRaD6TKLc

Although I'm not going to lie...there have been times when I've sounded like/talked to people who sound like these two. :)

Emi Grant said...

Mitchell: You Canadians are the national treasures of Planet Earth, I swear to god...

Matthew Montada said...

Just finished watching True History Of The Kelly Gang. Don’t have a Letterboxd review mainly because most of you folks have already said good that has been said about this film (plus i don’t have as many thoughts with this as i did with Personal History Of David Copperfield, Nomadland, Minari, etc.). Though if you want me to do a Letterboxd review, let me know and i’ll get back to you guys with it. Just know that i think it an excellent film and one that i find to be very underappreciated. 9.5/10.

Here are my ratings for the cast:
George MacKay - 4.5
Essie Davis - 5
Nicholas Hoult - 4.5
Russell Crowe - 4
Orlando Schwerdt - 3.5
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie - 3
Sean Keenan - 3
Charlie Hunnam - 3.5
Jacob Collins-Levy - 3

Calvin Law said...

I think I probably will end up bumping up Davis to a 5. She deserves it.

Anonymous said...

Is there a chance that the Oscars get postponed just like the Grammys just have?

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous:They already have been.

Calvin Law said...

Yep to April. It’s gonna be interesting to see how films keep momentum up until then with campaigns. I’ll be over here making memes for Minari and Nomadland so watch this space if you’ve me on any social media.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

As already stated it has already been delayed, I don't think it will be delayed further as I'm pretty sure they hired Steven Soderbergh as one of the producers in some hope he'll be able to come up with some dynamic atypical format.

Shaggy Rogers said...

I saw Another Round and I was really disappointed, for me it's the "1917" of 2020 (the movie that everyone praises except me).
Mixing the drama of alcoholism and black humor didn't work which is very frustrating for a Thomas Vinterberg film. All supporting cast including the 3 friends (Larsen, Millang and Ranthe) is weak and no one can wake up to interest.
To say that the film is not a disaster I liked the use of the song What a Life and of course the performance of Mads Mikkelsen who easily joins a lineup of the 2020 lead performances.

Bryan: My predictions for Louis' best director in 2020 are ...
Chloé Zhao
Lee Isaac Chung
Florian Zeller
Emerald Fennell
David Fincher (Mank will get better with time, as it did with Fight Club and Zodiac)

Anonymous said...

Well Shaggy didn't like the film so I guess Louis, who said he loved it, will hate it now, come on now. Also laughable to call the supporting cast as not being able to "wake up to interest".

Calvin Law said...

Outside of the opening sequence, kind of hated Pieces of a Woman. Kirby and Burstyn do the best they can and are good I'd say, but damn is this kind of melodramatic cinema really overstaying its welcome.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Oh come on, Shaggy didn’t even say anything about changing Louis' opinions, he just stated his own. I loved Another Round, but if he didn’t like the supporting cast that’s fine.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Anonymous v. Anonymous: Dawn of Confusion.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The Double (2014).

Matthew Montada said...

Just finished watching First Cow. This might seem a bit controversial for me to say but... I didn’t like it. Yet another disappointment from this year. Here’s my Letterboxd review for my full thoughts. If you have any thoughts you’d like to share with me, let’s have a discussion in the comment section of the review because clearly there’s something i’m missing here:

https://letterboxd.com/matt_0515/film/first-cow/

Performance ratings:
John Magaro - 4
Orion Lee - 4

Everyone else is a collective 3

Mitchell Murray said...

Just curious: Has anyone here seen "Fist of the North Star"? I've heard it gets silly at times, but if it's at least enjoyable silliness ala "Jojo", I could see myself liking it.

Matt Mustin said...

I wasn't in a hurry to see Pieces of a Woman anyway, but then somebody compared it to Manchester by the Sea, and now I'm really in no rush at all.

Louis Morgan said...

Also watched Pieces of a Woman, which I also didn't care for. It isn't completely bereft of quality, there are elements here and there, like the opening sequence which does work, unfortunately you don't know that its style will be the entirety of the piece. This as it often feels interminable, in its oddly often artificial feeling approach, despite having this attempted "Raw" quality to it. It's a strange mix with its sleek cinematography but then goes along showing us part of Shia LaBeouf most of us just don't want to see. This as it seems to wish to be just a natural piece, but then its climax is built around with a very broadly calculated melodrama in its climax. Of course what is really worse is dialogue is just plain wonky here, so much of it feels false, again adding to the artifice of it all. It doesn't help that so many strands, particularly in terms of character development, are left hanging, and not within a natural unsatisfying conclusion way, they just seem to drop or forget about them, particularly LaBeouf's character who starts out as co-lead then just gets dropped. Also it must be said the apple symbolism in the film is some of the most heavy handed I've seen in some time.

Kirby - 4.5(If they go ingenue rather than previously winning vet, definitely would prefer Mulligan.)
Burstyn - 4
LaBeouf - 3(I feel I might as well address this performance right now, as I do think certain elements would've played very differently for most viewers a few months ago, before it was better known that he is in fact Jake from Once Were Warriors. Still I always try to give an even-handed view of the actual work, and with that in mind, I do think early on he is effective in getting some kind of burly charm as the initially loving partner, and just the intensity of the grief afterwards. That is lost though as the character is given no where to go and becomes quite repetitive. LaBeouf still is fine in hitting those same notes for a bit, but he eventually kind of gets lost in it. This to the point that in his last scene with Kirby I thought he was honestly kind of terrible, where his delivery felt more like bluster than that of a genuinely grieving and broken man.)

Everyone else is kind of wasted.

Calvin Law said...

Yeah, the dialogue was VERY bad at points. I honestly think, given that they didn't develop LaBeouf's character well at all, that they might as well have focused solely on Kirby. Since I honestly think the film still kept her at a bit of a distance, if you think about it, with so many of his scenes feeling so pointless.

I wasn't huge on the writing behind Burstyn's big scene but thinking about it, she did deliver it very well.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: do you think the film would've benefited more from a few more scenes with the midwife? Since there was definitely potential to be found there and I actually really liked Molly Parker in the role.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I agree on all points quite frankly.