James Mason did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Johnny McQueen in Odd Man Out.
Odd Man Out is Carol Reed's other masterpiece, that receives a bit less recognition in general, about an IRA operative on the run after a failed robbery.
Now that description in short doesn't speak the brilliance of the film. The brilliance being that it isn't *just* about the IRA soldier on the run, but rather the way this event seems to influence the entire city around him. Due to this complex perspective however James Mason here probably is one of the least leading leads around. By that alliteration I mean that James Mason doesn't have a great deal of screentime despite his Johnny McQueen most certainly being the core of the film. Now that is perhaps why I placed him originally too low in my original ranking for 47 (although it might've also been me taking less care to those past #1, since no one was every going to take Attenborough's place when he was in 47), but that is entirely unfair to Mason's performance. This as every minute Mason is onscreen, he makes it count. Now in the opening of the film we initially meet McQueen as he's hiding out in a home, preparing for the robbery with his men. McQueen having spent months within the home after having escape prison for previous IRA action. This seems a small scene, but it is essential for Mason's performance, and again he doesn't waste it. This as he creates the essentials of the man in a few ways. One as we see him initially prepping Mason delivers a calm and cool charisma to Johnny. Although Mason was better known for his cold villains at the time, Mason shows a definite range here in creating an innate likability within this moment. This as Johnny speaks to the man with a reserve, but also a sense of understanding as a once proper leader of the men.
After prepping his men, he's left with his right hand man, and one of the women who had been hiding him, Kathleen (Kathleen Ryan), who clearly bares greater affection for Johnny. His talk with the right hand man, who asks for him to go on the job instead due to Johnny's time inside, Mason's reaction is effective in revealing less charisma and more exasperation in the moment. He speaks with a reserved false indifference to the statement, ensuring him he's fine just as Mason's face reflects the wear the man has received. Still Johnny chooses to go but before has a scene with Kathleen, who actually never state themselves as lovers or the like, but as they are together we are granted this sense. This speaks to the performances of both Ryan and Mason, this as there is just a strong sense of the attraction and warmth within the moment. They speak even not in a directly personal way, rather she just cautions Johnny on the plan, but within the interaction every still is said within their performances. There is a striking sense of the love between them. We won't see them again together until the end of the film, so this scene actually is more important than it might seem. Within it though you are granted in total a real sense of the connection between the two and it is through the natural strength of both Mason and Ryan's performances. Their eyes match and grant a sense of so much of a relationship constrained within circumstance, but still thriving within the two's hearts.
The actual robbery we see as Johnny approaches and in that Mason's physical work, which is a primary virtue of this performance is even evident before his inevitable injury. This as they walk into the location, Mason carries himself with an uncertainty in his step and awkwardness in his manner as even go by bystanders seems a slightly odd thing to him. The robbery falling apart as Johnny tries to make his escape and becomes disoriented slowing him down enough for a clerk to attack him. This fight that leaves the other man dead, and Johnny shot, Mason portrays as just a broken moment of messy desperation near accident. This to the point when he is then making his escape in their getaway, Mason's distress is potent as he keeps asking if the man he shot is dead or not. This granting a sense of real concern and shame in Johnny, and really the beginning of the end for the man. This as Johnny falls from the car window in the escape, and runs off finding solace in some abandoned structure. While the city searches for him including cops, Johnny's men, Kathleen and some random opportunists, Johnny lays in the building just slowly suffering from his wound. Mason's performance of Johnny's physical decay is remarkable, as we see each step, here in the stinging pain as he lies alone. There is a wonderful moment as Johnny is barely conscious and imagines a local girl as a guard from his prison days. Mason's performance is amazing in his wistful delivery of the past day as some foggy dream. Mason's eyes expressing a man seemingly escaping, by returning to prison of all things, though crafting a state of brief contentment before finding reality again.
Mason's performance then for a good chunk of the film is nearly silent, having brief moments of just trying to wave people from him or asking for help, however that doesn't at all dull the impact of his performance. This as Mason's face is so powerful in this film. Take a moment as Johnny is still stuck in the place as he watches two lovers hiding in his place seemingly for tryst though the woman relents. Mason's expression captures certainly the tension in Johnny as he expresses concern of being found out, but there is so much more. There is a sadness as he looks upon the couple that seems to suggest the man pitying his circumstances as his life and love is filled with so much more complication and anguish. As we see Johnny wandering around the city, finding random help here and there. Mason's performance captures such a potent growing desperation in every regard. This as his physical manner becomes all the more distressed and labored, and his eyes evoke a man going through more than just physical pain. This as he finds a brief solace in a bar, that doesn't want to come afoul of either the cops or the IRA, Johnny sees his life in beer stains. Mason's performance again finds such a potent sense of anxiety as he realizes the sense of the man seeing how everything has spiraled out for him, this before earning his visceral scream that is built out of more than the nearly festering wound within him. Mason showing a man burdened wholly through his life to this life, and creating this man who seemingly has never stopped being a prisoner despite having escaped from one kind of prison.
Eventually a group of strange men, including a deranged artist and a quirky bird keeper, take him away to repair him slightly through the use of a doctor of sorts, however all the men aren't entirely motivated to help Johnny. Mason meanwhile shows Johnny barely conscious within the affair and nearly dying it seems as his performance becomes shows the life of the man growing ever fainter. This until he's spoken to about his old priest, who wants to see Johnny now to help him, and Johnny has a vision of the old pastor. Mason is downright amazing in this moment, and is one of the best of his illustrious career. This as we see in his eyes, despite staring at a hallucination, Johnny finding some clarity and sense rather than just pain. Mason's expression shows a man reaching some understanding suddenly of the moral betrayals in his life that have left him to this point. This culminating in Mason's awe inspiring delivery of Psalm 23 as recognition of the lessons of the priest he ignored. Mason's work here is outstanding as burdens each word with such potent emotion and meaning. Mason says it with such intensity of feeling and creates a moment of true revelation. Mason makes it this moment of true catharsis as the guilt and anxiety that seemed to weigh so heavily in the psalm, as almost this incredible act of repentance. Johnny is brought along supposedly to see the priest, as he is walked along by the bird keeper. Mason's physical work now is that of a basically a dead man walking. His expression like a ghost somehow just barely maintaining a moral coil and his movements now of a man just forcing himself to move while his body is actively dying. This as he doesn't meet the priest, and instead finds Kathleen, who is adamant that Johnny not be taken in. We have an extraordinary moment, where we find that chemistry again, now so poignant as Mason shows with all the pain just the hint of true warmth and solace as Kathleen speaks of an escape that isn't far. This is a truly great performance by James Mason. He doesn't have a great deal screentime, however there isn't a moment where you forget his presence. He is a constant, in that he never wastes a moment, whether silent or speaking. This in granting us the sense of Johnny's journey both physically, mentally and emotionally. This in creating such a heartbreaking and tragic portrait of man slowly escaping his life.
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Fantastic performance, especially in his scenes with Kathleen Ryan. One does wonder why this film isn't acclaimed more nowadays as honestly it's low key a very influential film on many man on the run noirs. On that note, could you imagine Robert Pattinson as a modern day Johnny McQueen?
Louis: Thoughts on the use of color of the original Aladdin? Also, ratings and thoughts on Weinger, Larkin, Freeman and Gottfried.
A fantastic performance from one of the all-time greats.
Can't wait for Woods review.
Mason wins the 1947 lead
Louis: Your top 10 Tom Hanks performances?
Louis: Has Kathleen Ryan gone up. I saw F.J. McCormick go up to a 4.5 for Odd Man Out.
Luke, if Woods somehow gets upgraded, do you still think he'll be 6th.
Anonymous: Yes, because it would be awfully harsh on someone like Spall to be below a performance from absolute garbage as Louis would put it. And if Woods does go up, the only other performance that it would have a similar feeling to is Ian McKellen in Apt Pupil.
Louis: your thoughts on the score of The Personal History of David Copperfield?
I know Louis is a man of his word, but it'd be downright hilarious if he decided to replace Woods in this line-up with another performance.
Tahmeed: I'm sure it would be though it wouldn't be fair on me in all honesty.
Have you nearly finished Blackadder Goes Forth.
Luke: I did watch the first episode (which I loved btw) but I just got swamped with work. As soon as I finish it, I'll give you my thoughts and cast rankings.
Tahmeed: Thanks.
So for the AFI Top 10, sad to see Promising Young Woman miss out, but delighted to see Minari and Sound of Metal make it in alongside the expected ones. Obviously this is never really a precursor but I’m glad.
Calvin: I’m hearing talk PYW might not have been eligible, but I haven’t found any official confirmation
Calvin:
Most definitely.
Anonymous:
I mean, fairly standard Disney renaissance vibrancy, with nothing overly notable about its use, other than following Beauty and the Beast's lead in that regard.
Weinger - 2.5(I mean somewhat bland I guess, more so just very generic. I will say he gets the job done, but the voice work, fittingly I guess, is very much worthier of a Saturday Morning Lead. In comparison to say Benson's or Hulce's work, it leaves a bit more to be desired. He does his job but nothing more than that.)
Larkin - 2.5(Honestly Salonga's vocal performance left more of an impression on me overall. Honestly her work is just like Weinger's for me.)
Gottfried - 3(An effective use of his unusual, if actually phony, voice of his. It works well for the character putting the loud mouth in a bird sidekick.)
Freeman - 3(Irons would do what he's kind of going for here a lot better in The Lion King. He's fine on his own in really emphasizing the mustache twirling of the mustache twirler. It is relatively standard though in my view.)
Luke:
I don't know what she was, but she's a strong 4.5 for me now.
Anonymous:
1. Captain Phillips
2. A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
3. Cast Away
4. Bridge of Spies
5. Sully
6. Road to Perdition
7. Saving Private Ryan
8. Catch Me If You Can
9. Apollo 13
10. Saving Mr. Banks
Calvin:
The score I suppose is fittingly very much within the sort of expected style for a Dickens adaptation, this as this combination of kind of an expected period style, though with a bit of whimsy. This one though is rather wonderful in that it does distinguish itself with a bit more intensity actually than the typical form. There's a really sort of energetic thrust within it, this while not at all losing that sort of comical calm that relates to the expected Dickens style.
Regarding AFI, unfortunate miss for Promising Young Woman (both its production companies are USA based so I think it counted), would've taken it over half the choices there, same goes for the Father (though I'm not sure it counted). Still some fine choices across the board, particularly good to see Minari make it.
For AFI, I do think Promising Young Woman was eligible (but I could be wrong) and I'm fairly certain that the The Father wasn't since both of its production companies are based in Europe.
Which actor has the least screen time but is still definitely lead? Is it Peter Lorre in M?
Matt:
Probably Lorre, and honestly maybe Mason here, both films actually are built similarly as a "community" that reacts to this one man.
Louis: I think you were being generous to Brad Renfro when you gave him the extra ".5" for The Client.
Watched Miss Juneteenth and Nicole Beharie is definitely Oscar nomination-worthy, would make for a much better contender than many of the other names bandied around this awards season.
For the second year in a row, those Independent Spirit Award nominations seem tailored to me.
Matt:
That's probably true.
Calvin:
Some random notes:
- Nomadland expectedly did well, though Strathairn, probably won't be making if he couldn't here.
- Promising Young Woman is missed in picture though I'm glad Fennell and Mulligan made.
- All good things for Minari, though I expected it to make a splash here.
- First Cow love I'm more indifferent to as that was one that's more "just not for me" rather than something I see as truly flawed. Though Orion Lee in supporting?...come now.
- Unlike NRSA, which again there's a great version of that film, that's not it, as I do think it is ACTIVELY derivative of 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days.
- Guess I'll have to see 9 Days if it has a Wong performance of note.
- Turman and Domingo both getting here actually oddly enough probably hurts them both for the Oscar nomination.
- A little surprised Sound of Metal didn't get into picture or director given its success otherwise, but that is often the Indie Spirits way.
- I'll save any anger for the lack of The Father anywhere (editing and Colman should be a given), once I find out if it was actually eligible (the only source for its budget is just a random critics group).
- Still definitely some fine choices in there.
Calvin:
By the way were you allowed to vote with your membership?
Louis: Where would Persepolis rank among your favorite animated films? If I'm not wrong, your updated top ten were:
1. The Secret of NIMH
2. Grave of the Fireflies
3. Spirited Away
4. Pinocchio
5. Watership Down
6. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
7. My Neighbor Totoro
8. The Plague Dogs
9. Only Yesterday
10. Coraline
Also, could you give me your #11-#25 animated films?
Louis: not for the nominees, but I will be for the awards themselves.
And yeah people are talking about Han Ye-ri as fraud but Orion Lee is way more blatant. I don’t think there’s even any real justification one could make for him being supporting. Agreed in Thurman and Domingo though I do think the former still has a chance.
One has to wonder if The Father’s screeners issue really is the problem - because otherwise I can’t see why it was omitted completely. It must have just not been eligible for whatever reason.
Also SOM’s omission from Director is because one can’t be nominated in both Best Director and Best First Feature Film (thus why Fennell didn’t make it into the latter).
Anonymous:
Give me some time for consideration.
Calvin:
Seems to be the case, as it appears you have to have some "American" element in your production not be regulated to only International Feature.
Riz ahmed, carey mulligan, Paul raci and youn yuh-jung won the nbr. This bodes well for them at the Oscars.
And also George Clooney used his connection to get midnight sky nominated for their top 10 movies.
Anonymous:
Well not another bad get for them, 3 out of the 4, sometimes all 4, usually get nominated.
Yeah, and that top ten mention for Midnight Sky is an atrocious choice, so many better choices this year.
Midnight Sky there is laughable but to be honest, so is News of the World.
Louis: speaking in M what are your thoughts on your 1951 remake of Joseph Losey and the cast?
Louis: Have you finished the first round of Recommendations.
Shaggy:
Haven't seen it, don't really seek out remakes that are said not to be especially good.
Luke:
No, twas busy yesterday.
Louis how would you rank the AFI and NBR top tens?
Anonymous:
AFI:
1. Minari
2. Nomadland
3. Sound of Metal
4. The Trial of the Chicago Seven
5. Soul
6. Mank
7. One Night in Miami
8. Da 5 Bloods
9. Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
NBR:
1. Minari
2. Nomadland
3. Promising Young Woman
4. Sound of Metal
5. Soul
6. The Forty-Year-Old Version
7. Da 5 Bloods
8. First Cow
9. News of the World
10. The Midnight Sky
Side note, A good sign for Judas and the Black Messiah showing up on both, I really hope it delivers.
Louis: Thoughts on The Forty-Year-Old Version and ratings/thoughts on the cast.
Luke:
Longer than it needs to be, and shaky in some regards a debut, though nothing too major. As the sort of Woody Allen style autobiographical film, I rather enjoyed it actually. There's a couple of the tired tropes thrown in there, the over the top vision ruining theater director for example, but when it works it works. It works most just in the more personal seeming moments of Blank reflecting on her life, or just teaching her class. The more overtly theatrical it is the weaker it is, thankfully the personal I think is more often what is, and when it is that it works.
Blank - 4(A big reason why being her own performance that makes for a rather endearing lead. Her own performance does well to balance the elements of "herself" within the film. This as she does not over charge either element, finding the humorous in her own performance quite naturally, and effectively making the more highly specialized, and less specialized dramatic moments feel very honest.)
Kim - 3.5(When he first showed up I was rather concerned about the typical gay best friend character. Kim's performance slowly reveal itself to be more insightful than that however. This as he delivers a more earnest subtlety in the moments of warmth, and sort of trying to get Blank look at herself. He's particularly good later on in his reactions that create a sense of the man's real investment in his friend.)
Anonymous:
Regarding animated, might as well wait, as I'll be watching a few more highly lauded animated films during the "wait" period.
Agreed with Louis 100% on everything in Forty Year Old Version, not one of the best films of the year but definitely a good debut and one I'm happy to see pick up attention.
Louis: Your thoughts on The Courier trailer.
Luke:
I mean a fascinating story, and its approach that seems to be taking the "Our Man in Havana" approach, about a man playing spy who is a spy. Looks kind middle of the road, such lifting its aestehtic quite clearly form Alfredson's Tinker Tailor, but potentially good middle of the road.
Louis: Thoughts on L'Avventura with ratings/thoughts on the cast.
Louis: And where would you rank Monica Vitti.
R.I.P. Cloris Leachman
I feel like I'm being borderline gaslighted (gaslit?) by Oscar pundits right now who seem to steadfastly refuse to acknowledge Paul Raci is a mainline Supporting Actor contender simply because he's "not a name", despite winning more precursors than his competition combined.
RIP Cloris Leachman
Mads mikkelsen is being run for best drama actor and not best comedy actor as we all thought. Looks like his chances at a globe nomination is dead.
RIP Cloris Leachman
R.I.P. Cloris Leachman
RIP Cloris Leachman. Sad to see her finally pass on.
Robert: the anti-Ravi sentiment does feel weird. Obviously he isn’t a name and obviously critics awards don’t mean everyyying and can mean very little, but he has been sweeping.
*Raci
Louis: Your thoughts on the score from Kenneth Branagh's Hamlet.
Luke:
I should note I also saw Play, honoring that recommendation, however that's such an extreme "director's film" that the performances are more of symbols than characters. Side note, I didn't really care that much for it. I thought the points it seemed to be making were obvious and not particularly engaging. Honestly other than the Ape Man scene from The Square, I'm not sure Ruben Ostlund is for me.
L'Avventura I will say is the kind of film that is perhaps one of the hardest to pull of successfully, which it was a pioneer of, and I'll say too often filmmakers are given admiration merely for the attempt of such an execution and not the actual success of it. This as the piece that is defined by mood and interaction, rather than plot. Now Antonioni does include some plot, which I do think is necessary, and actually is fundamental to the mood. This as there is the quality of mystery even though it is not a mystery. Atonioni's approach though is that of the interaction with that singular, purposefully left unresolved element, and how it effects the characters. In this I found the film transfixing more often than not, in its moments of silence, though I will say not overly used in that regard, as it does have rich moments of dialogue as well. To me it fundamentally shows in some ways why this film works, where other of the ilk do not.
Ferzetti - 4(Ferzetti's performance is in some ways the constant, the constant that has a degree of mystery. In part he should be dashing and even mysterious within the qualities of what makes him intriguing and charming. He is that, and he avoids being vague within the emotional qualities regarding the main plot element. He suggest well something is there, without fully revealing it either. He finds a find balance, while also achieving the right sense of charisma as the intriguing man.)
Vitti - 5(Her performance on the other hand is the one that changes throughout the film, and is rather fascinatingly realized within that portrayal. This as she opens this almost as part of the scenery, though effectively so as the woman who basically defers towards her more flamboyant best friend. She's terrific then though in portraying the sense of anxiety in the disappearance. This though in slowly reflecting her kind of becoming her own person in her interactions with Ferzetti and showing a greater grasp of really her environment, though with still the underlying sense of that anxiety. This that she portrays well in the way that even as she becomes more openly "powerful" as an individual there is never a sense of perfection in her manner and is always the sense of uncertainty there. This in her final moment showing sort of the return back towards her earlier self in the ending in facing not the truth, but a truth.)
Vitti would be my #3.
Robert:
Seems odd, as none of the "name" contenders really got "undeniable" reviews, so far (we'll see on Kaluuya very soon). Although I don't think his run is guaranteeing him a win by any means, it certainly puts him in serious contention.
RIP Cloris Leachman
R.I.P. Cloris Leachman
RIP Cloris Leachman
Rest in peace, Cloris Leachman.
Also, what would everyone's thoughts be on this these animated fight scenes; The first is from "The Dark Knight Returns" and features Peter Weller as Batman. The second is from "Batman: Under the Red Hood" and has Bruce Greenwood as Batman and Jensen Ackles as Red Hood (Who should totally play the character in a live action film).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRYGfKUEyfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os3VkJzsCVg
RIP Cloris Leachman
RIP Cloris Leachman.
Louis: Based on Braveheart, are there any Game of Thrones roles that you think Angus Macfayden would be ideal for? In a 90s GOT, I actually think he'd have been a perfect Robb Stark.
Tahmeed: I too thought of it after re-watching some of his scenes yesterday.
Louis: Do you think The Queen's Gambit could have worked as a film, like it was originally planned? Also, if you don't mind my asking, do you have an interest in/play chess?
Tahmeed:
Robb would be the most natural place, also due to his work in Titus as well, where he was also great at horrified but honorable discontent.
Anonymous:
Yes I do. Although I liked the series, and even its scope, I don't think the story HAD to have that more expansive quality. Technically it could've been built around the final game in the Soviet Union as the center point, and then we flash back through her various trials, which could've been limited, reduced, and perhaps some of the characters could've been combined (Harry, Benny and Townes could've been made into 2 characters for example). Although one could've as easily botched the story, a talented screenwriter definitely could've made the story work within a slightly over 2 hour film.
Yes.
David Jones:
I believe I gave those somewhere around the 96 results.
Louis: What are your favorite chess openings/defenses?
R.I.P. Cloris Leachman
Louis: Your 1990s cast & director for The Devil All The Time.
Tahmeed: I always open every game with pawns to g4 and f3. Never works, but I always do it.
Bryan: Jude Law for Pattinson's role. For everyone else, I'm open to suggestions.
I'd also reiterate the comment I made above by saying Pattinson would be my ideal Nightwing just as Ackles would be my ideal Red Hood.
Mitchell: While I like Weller's Batman, I personally find Michael Ironside's performance in "Legends of the Dark Knight" more intimidating. Funnily enough, Ironside was considered for Robocop.
Louis: How do you think Ironside would have fared as Robocop, Louis? Lance Henriksen was also considered for the part.
Anonymous: Side by side, I also prefer Ironside's performance ever so slightly, mainly on the strength of his "I'm the surgeon" line.
As for Robocop, I think Ironside and Henriksen could've both been good - Henrikson obviously because of his turn as Bishop the previous year. I think Weller had a natural advantage, though, thanks to those especially piercing eyes of his, as well as his deep yet somewhat nasally voice.
Emi: Well, as long as they don't spot the checkmate, it should be fine :)
My favorite openings with white are the Ruy Lopez and London System, while with Black I usually go for a Sicilian or King's Indian set-up. Not that that pays off either, not particularly good at it myself xD
Tahmeed:
White:
Less Serious game: English
More Serious game: London System
Black:
Italian.
Anonymous:
Although both would've been intimidating to be sure, I think Weller's performance brings a fundamental early warmth, that would've been unlikely with either of those two.
Bryan:
The Devil All the Time 90's directed by Frank Darabont:
Arvin: Edward Norton
Willard: Woody Harrelson
Reverend Teagardin: Val Kilmer
Sheriff Bodecker: Ed Harris
Sandy: Jennifer Jason Leigh
Carl: Lance Henriksen
Lenora: Samantha Mathis
Roy: Elias Koteas
Louis, what are the 10 worst performances you've ever seen that were and weren't unintentionally funny.
your thoughts on the (sadly never used because Emperor's New Groove in the end wasn't a musical) song "Snuff out the Light"?
Louis: Thinking about that question, is there any possibility you may revisit that proposed Wiseau round though perhaps not in a lineup capacity.
Louis have you seen any other 2020 releases recently?
Stephen Patterson:
Funny:
1. Tommy Wiseau - The Room (Gold Standard)
2. John Travolta - Battlefield Earth
3. Kiefer Sutherland - Pompeii
4. Dudley Manlove - Plan 9 From Outer Space
5. Eddie Redmayne - Jupiter Ascending
6. Philip Haldiman - The Room
7. Rob Lowe - Square Dance
8. Michael Madsen - Sin City
9. John Breckinridge in Plan From Outer Space
10. Dale Midkiff - Pet Sematary
Not Funny:
1. Rebel Wilson - Cats
2. Mickey Rooney - Breakfast At Tiffany's
3. Pauly Shore - Bio-Dome
4. James Corden - Cats
5. Wes Bentley - Ghost Rider
6. Stephen Lack - Scanners
7. Quentin Tarantino - Django Unchained
8. Carol Burnett - The Front Page
9. David Mendenhall - Over the Top
10. Jack O'Connell - Eden Lake
Tim:
A fine villain song. I wouldn't say I love it, has a nice chorus in particularly, although overall I think the mix is a little too blended making it not quite distinct in its lyrics which I think they might've had the vocals stand out more. Still a good song, though not overly memorable.
Luke:
Seems quite unlikely.
Anonymous:
Caught up on some of the Indie Spirit nominees.
Bull - (I mean in some ways it shows just how phony Hillbilly Elegy is in every way in terms of realizing this kind of particular aesthetic. Having said that though the story is very standard, and never really builds to anything. It's fine in its predicable beats, but there never is any real inspiration despite having a potentially intriguing starting point.)
Morgan - 4
Havard - 3.5
The Assistant - (Another would've been a great short film Indie film, that gets overly lauded for the material for that short. The one scene with any real dialogue is quite good, the rest though is a well shot film of mundane task after mundane task, with a couple brief scenes about the toxic environment outside of that major one. The former takes over, and it does make me ask, how boring scenes to we need to see to understand that her job is boring? Not this many, and after awhile it honestly feels like filler, something Indies never get accused of, but the long take of someone slowly eating fruit loops is the Indie equivalent of a mindless action scene.)
Garner - 4
Macfadyen - 3.5
Miss Juneteenth - (This is a pretty good character study. Doesn't do anything extraordinary with the material, but realizes its low key story effectively. This without falling into extreme cliches, but just naturally exploring the central character kind of dealing with both her old achievement and her kind of failure related to that.)
Beharie - 4.5
Chikaeze - 4
Thoughts on Morgan, Garner, Beharie and Chikaeze.
Luke, your top five Bradley Cooper performances
Luke, with ratings
5
1. A Star Is Born
4.5
2. American Sniper
3. The Place Beyond The Pines
4. Silver Linings Playbook
3.5/4
5. His overall portrayal of Rocket
This could very well change with what may be a banner year for him.
Frankly I would much rather Beharie be the one getting recognition over some of the Lead Actress contenders.
Luke:
Morgan - (His performance is a fine, though not defining, entry into the loner older man with more heart than expected. I'll say Morgan is game for everything he gets to do. He has the right hard edge about him, but also the right sort of sense of warmth. He brings the right simplicity to it and never compromises the overall sense of this guy who has had a harder, but knows how to ride through without issue. The problem is the film doesn't really take him anywhere interesting past a certain point, he suddenly becomes static, as does the film, and leaves Morgan with only able to go so far. He's good with what he does have but sadly the film doesn't let him take the next step.)
Garner - (I mean for much of the film she just needs to look bored and a little downtrodden. She's great though in her scene with MacFadyen. This in slowly sort of unleashing the pent up anxieties in the moment though as much showing the horror of the moment as well. This in creating a powerful reaction in creating the state of slowly repenting herself back up into a state of that same sort of pent up anxiety. It is exceptionally well articulation of basically losing the repression than regaining it in a single scene. Sadly then the film returns to her just looking downtrodden and bored. She again can do this well enough, but again the film is painfully repetitive.)
Beharie - (A quietly moving performance much of the time. This as overall she gives sort of just a quietly charismatic performance. This in bringing an authenticity in her moments of just seeming to live her life, which Beharie grants the right kind of vibrancy to. This though with the right underlying sense of concern with her daughter. These moments that she realizes with a particularly effective complexity. This as she manages to combine a sense of concern, but presents in a way that is internalized through this certain sense of personal shame. Beharie naturally realizes this struggle, though I like how she never makes it something that defines her entire performance. It is rather this sort of nagging quality of an ambition unfulfilled that needles her. This in her later moments creating, largely through silence, this very cathartic sense of coming to terms with it through her relationship with her daughter. The final moments being particularly moving as she brings such a striking authenticity to them.)
Chikaeze - (Her performance I largely liked for avoiding cliche in over playing the moments of the rebellious daughter. Thought instead she portrayed a more natural sort of boredom and slight discontent with her mother's intentions rather than something more overt. This then naturally earning the moments of portraying her coming to understanding towards her mother, and vice versa. Their final scene together wholly working by the two performances just bringing such a quiet honesty in the moment.)
Calvin:
Well I'd put her in over Kirby or Davis.
Louis: Thoughts on Havard and Macfadyen.
Louis: would you say that Morgan is a talented actor who with the right role could deliver something amazing? Cause that’s the vibe I generally get from him in films.
R.I.P. Cicely Tyson
RIP Cicely Tyson
R.I.P. Cicely Tyson
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-united-states-vs-billie-holiday-virtual-qa-with-director-star-tickets-138009900327 if you sign up to this you get a free screener of the film alongside the Q&A so heads up to anyone who might be interested 🙂
RIP Cicely Tyson
Razor:
Havard - (Her performance I think is largely just uneven. There are parts where you really feel an authentic aimless young teenager finding some sort of path. There's moments of the sort of discontent in the early scenes and quiet joys that really hit home. Then though there are just moments where she feels the amateur she is. This just as there are moments where she's a bit wooden and awkward. These moments are the exception thankfully but still they are present.)
Macfadyen - (Game as the scene partner there as he plays the scene quite well because he opens just kind of with the even boring manner of any HR head just discussing something with an employee. Gradually Macfadyen's delivery has this growing venomous. This as every line becomes more and more a threat that he articulates effectively, and slowly his manner becomes less and less veiled in that regard. This until his shameless end where his blunt dismissive quality delivers on the idea, the rest of the film is attempting to do.)
Calvin:
Yes, and frankly that random SAG nom for Just Mercy should've been his. Definitely a rock solid character actor in his film work. Though I will say I didn't love his work as Turk on Daredevil (who should be a hilarious scene stealer), but I blame that more on the showrunners than on him.
Thanks, guess I'll report later on tonight.
R.I.P Cicely Tyson
Calvin: How can you write smileys in here?
Tim: I just copied and pasted my message from another one I sent my friends through messages
RIP Cicely Tyson
R.I.P. Cicely Tyson
RIP Cloris Leachman and Cicely Tyson
Louis: Any performance you would qualify as “Not sure if funny-bad or bad-bad”? Because when you get around to seeing Excalibur, there’s an insane early performance from a certain well-regarded character actor in the first 15 minutes that is a truly surreal bit of all-time worst acting. Especially when you see who it is. Granted, I think he might have been dubbed over, Nicol Williamson seemed like the only one who wasn’t.
Well, for my first film of 2021, The The United States vs. Billie Holiday is...not good. But hey at least Garrett Hedlund is out front for worst supporting actor. Lee Daniels, as usual, over-directs, with every stylistic flourish being a distraction rather than an amplification, and approaching the material with an overly glossy aesthetic that seems to say (to quote the Onion's review of The Butler), "the way the scene is lit with its rich golden hues means what is happening is important". Sadly this aesthetic of "importance" only makes the material all the more distant feeling, given how raw it seems to want to be, very similar to Pieces of a Woman in that regard. The biggest problem here though isn't Daniels, it's the script. Holiday is a fascinating figure, but this takes a repetitive and particularly contrived approach to exploring her life. Its attempt at grander scale feel painfully unearned while also lacking any real insight in its attempts to explore a more intimate perspective of Holiday.
Day though is definitely devoted to the role, and I wish there had been a film worthy of her determination. I think she can easily be nominated still, even if the critical reaction is the same as mine.
Robert:
I think Forest Whitaker in Out of the Furnace falls into that category for me.
Louis: Thoughts and ratings for the cast?
Robert: The first one I thought of was Marton Csokas in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, who's really just kinda...I don't know.
Louis: Your Top 10 best performances in terrible films by disparity between performance and film quality?
Also, thank you, Calvin.
Louis: agreed entirely on your thoughts, I assume Hedlund is a solid 1 for you? Truly terrible performance. I also thought they might as well not have cast Trevante Rhodes given how under-utilised and underwritten his role was.
Such a shame when a real-life story like this is pared down into such a weird and uninspired structure. Kind of had that Bohemian Rhapsody thing of just hitting story beat after story beat, montage after montage without any real meaning.
Calvin: Trevante Rhodes has been getting fucked over bad in terms of the roles he's getting.
Matt: truly a shame. I'd say it's been a problem for a lot of the Moonlight cast sadly besides Jharrel Jerome. But yeah, Rhodes is way too talented for some of the characters he's been playing.
Apparently Ashton Sanders has a great role in Judas and the Black Messiah though so we'll see about that.
I watched the 172 minute cut of The New World. Would anyone here believe me if I said that actually flowed much easier and smoother than the shorter cut? Anyway, I’m on the “it’s a masterpiece” train now.
Rest in Peace, Cicely Tyson and Cloris Leachman
I watched Exotica. I haven't been the biggest fan of what I've seen from Egoyan so far ('Ararat', 'Remember', 'Felicia's Journey', admittedly none of which are considered his best work, although each one of those films has one great performance in it) but this one blew me away. I thought it was hypnotizing and strange and profound. Also, easily my sound mixing win for 94.
Greenwood-5
Kirshner-5
Koteas-4.5
McKellar-3
Khanjian-3
Garber-3
Polley-4
Matt: Highly recommend The Sweet Hereafter (definitely his best I've seen so far), lots of cool parallels with Exotica.
Calvin: Definitely on my list.
Luke: Just finished Blackadder Goes Forth. Sheer perfection, with one of the greatest series finales ever, and easily the best of Seasons 2-4.
Cast Ranking:
1. Atkinson (His best performance across the three seasons. Delivers on the wit to be expected, but he really succeeds in his portrayal of the most humane and sympathetic iteration of the character. He brings so much within a state of discontent in the sense of a man who's just done with it all, and yet, can only move forward at the end. He completely knocked it out of the park in the finale, "Good luck everyone" indeed")
2. Laurie (Actually preferred his work here over his excellent work in Blackadder the Third.)
3. Robinson (His best work across Seasons 2-4, brilliant with basically being the perfect punching bag for Atkinson, and a terrific dynamic with Laurie as well. Excellent performance.)
4. McInnery (Was close between him and Fry, excels as a butt-monkey once again, and a perfect foil for Atkinson. And then in the finale he did so much in a matter of minutes to become really moving)
5. Fry (Great performance too, as essentially the idiot General personified, who really has no idea about the struggles of his soldiers).
RIP Cicely Tyson
Louis: Your thoughts on The Dig and ratings/thoughts on the cast. Hope Mulligan and Fiennes delivered.
And thanks Tahmeed. Happy to see another fan. :)
Louis, have you seen Unhinged. What did you think of it and your rating and thoughts on Russell Crowe.
Aidan:
Day - (Not sure of exact rating, because I can only give her credit for going for it every step of the way. This includes her particularly impressive re-working of her own voice to match Holliday's, which is absolutely convincing and lived in. Her performance goes for every sort of emotional low point. Whether this be the physical degradation of Holliday, or just her mental exasperation. This in moments of just outright anguish or lighter vulnerability seeking help. This though combined with a real sense of a star's charisma, particularly when she is singing. The film I'll say doesn't give her terribly interesting scenes to work with or to even truly develop the character beyond a kind of generalized symbol of the repressed/abused artist. Day though is good, and any emotion I felt from the film, as limited as it was, came from her.)
Rhodes - 3(The misuse of his talent continues quite sadly, he just can't seem to find a good project. The character is underwritten and craft in kind of silly broad-strokes. Rhodes tries his best what he has, but he can't really overcome the limits of his poorly written character. One of the problems with the film is it can't decide if it wants to devote itself to the crisis of conscience of his character, or of Holliday's slow decay. In turn it leaves both quite vague. Hopefully Rhodes finds a decent role for his talents again soon, as this is not it.)
Hedlund - 1(Hedlund is just atrocious here in going as arch as possible with every line. Instead of coming off as truly insidious he just comes off as over the top. This as he plays every line with this broad villainy, and just comes off as a complete cartoon. It would not have been out of character with the rest of his performance if he added a "Mu ha ha ha" after every one of his scenes.)
I think most of the rest of the supporting cast does what they can in very poorly developed roles, like Rob Morgan as the randomly appearing jealous boyfriend, or Natasha Lyonne as Tallulah Bankhead which kind of emphasizes just how lacking develop the film has. This as the whole relationship between her and Holliday seems solely included because it seems interesting, but they don't bother to explore with any actual detail.
Emi Grant:
I made such a list in Paul Scofield for King Lear's review, although I think I based that strictly on non-performance driven fair.
Anonymous:
I have not.
Luke:
Will watch it later today.
Has Louis ever given his thoughts on "Married Life" by Michael Giacchino? If so, where?
Louis: Will you've Blackadder 2 finished tomorrow. If not, I'll ask for thoughts as soon as Return To Oz is added to the 85 overalls.
Tim:
I think I have, though not exactly sure.
Luke:
I finished it, I slowly parsed out watching the episodes as soon as I started doing the requests.
Louis: Your thoughts on it and the cast. I hope you liked it enough to continue watching it.
Luke:
I did enjoy it, certainly enough to follow through for the other two seasons. A Elizabethian England situation comedy, is already kind of a funny concept, and I felt the show run with it rather well. Each episode was quite enjoyable, I particularly liked Blackadder as the executioner speeding things up for a day off, and Hugh Laurie's major episode, motivation right there certainly to go on if his role becomes larger, as his guest spot there was hilarious. With any sitcom, how many of the bits are funny, I felt a lot of them. So success right there.
Atkinson - (Well I will immediately concur with the general notion that this is his best work. He is indeed much funnier playing a devious cunning man than a fool. Atkinson making for an unlikely lead in that sense, and that is in part where so much of the comedy comes from. His sort of almost fiendish wit he brings to the role is just marvelous, and his whole sort of kind of a curious intensity makes his approach to the sitcom situation, particularly unique and entertaining. His timing here is particularly on point especially whenever Blackadder reacts quite artfully to the gross stupidity of his underlings or those around him.)
McInnery - (I would say for me always bordered on just perhaps being too much, however here I felt it worked quite well by virtue of Atkinsons's reactions towards his high pitched buffoonery. Additionally though there are definitely some wonderful moments McInnery finds on his particularly his silent considerations on whether to keep on talking or to be expected.)
Richardson - (A genuine hoot, and it is particularly enjoyable to see her in this kind of role, which she didn't too often return to later on, I suppose her Harry Potter performance is a return to her roots in a certain sense. She's ridiculous though in the best of ways in both her accent and just her whole manner of portraying Elizabeth as the petulant and spoiled of school girls. I think she is used as well just the right amount so whenever she does show up, Richardson's absurdity really sings.)
Robinson - (A good counterpoint to McInnery, as the man whose stupidity comes out quietly and slowly rather than quickly and loudly. Again Atkinson's reactions to him I think are where the biggest laughs often come from. Still quite enjoyed Robinson's extremely labored manner about everything he does, as though pushing through any thought just requires that much effort from Baldrick.)
Fry - (I suppose somewhat standard Fry in a sense, though appropriately droll work from him, that works especially well as a pseudo rival to Atkinson, and as a counterpoint within the scenes with Elizabeth. I especially love his reaction to the "gotcha" after being told he is going to be executed by the Queen.)
Laurie - (The guest actor I feel most needed to be noted, though I more or less enjoyed them all. Laurie's first appearance being mostly just some enjoyable reactions, but his second being an absolute delight. From his ridiculous German accent to just his whole grotesquely sinister manner, found everything he did pure comic gold. I especially enjoyed his lurid way of delivering his "it was me" line every time.)
Louis: I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
What did you think of Mayall and Baker
How would you rank the episodes.
Thoughts on the Costume Design
And your top ten lines from the season.
Gosh if you thought Laurie was hilarious there you are in for a TREAT with the other two seasons.
I think my favourite line from Atkinson was 'The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devil's own satanic herd' and my favourite reaction was being asked by a sailor 'How much do you charge for a good hard shag'.
Louis: Where would Richardson's work rank in her career.
Louis, your thoughts on the Blackadder theme tune.
Louis: What did you think of the outros as well, I've always enjoyed Blackadder's mini-feud with the Balladeer.
And to add to Anonymous's question, could I have your thoughts on the series 1 version of the theme as it has a more grandiose styling. There's 2 slightly different versions, one with lyrics and one without.
Louis: The one without lyrics is in the intro and the lyrical version is in the end credits.
The Dig is well shot, not bereft of charm, but I'd say respectable to a fault.
Mulligan - 3.5(Despite being severely miscast)
Fiennes - 3.5
James - 3
Dolan - 3
Chaplin - 2
Stott - 2.5
Flynn - 2.5
Luke:
Mayall - (I'll admit I watched the first episode considerably earlier than the rest, so I don't remember his performance as clearly. Though I enjoyed his bit well enough as I recall.)
Baker - (An entertaining bit of an extreme one note built on just being as overblown sea faring type as possible. Plays into caricature wonderfully well, and is just an explosion of ridiculousness.)
1. Head
2. Chains
3. Money
4. Potato
5. Bells
6. Beer
I mean the costumes are quite a work of genius all on their own, in that in some ways the costumes might be the closest to historical drawings and paintings of the period, however this is without alteration as usual for a period piece...this therefore making them look quite comical to the modern perspective.
Well...I certainly enjoyed many of the lines, having seen each episode one time however, might be a little harder to pare down my favorites.
The outros were also enjoyable little bits.
I'd probably rank the performance behind The Crying Game and Spider.
Anonymous:
An enjoyable little tune that in a way I suppose is the style of the series in minimum with the seeming period little ditty, that slowly gets back up by a technically quite ill-fitting electric guitar.
I think I prefer the season 2 rendition, rather than, I'll say probably purposefully, bombastic though more traditional theme of season 1.
Thoughts on Mulligan and Fiennes.
Louis: And here's the Flashheart scene in full.
youtube.com/watch?v=aKfbSHW9uGA
Louis, who would've been the more age appropriate choice to play the Mulligan role.
Louis: Once you've seen Series 3 and 4, will you be judging the cast's portrayals separately or overall. In case they turn up in any future top 10/20 lists.
Luke, I think if they were to be judged overall, Atkinson and Laurie would most definitely be up there. However he should stay away from Series 1 for Atkinson's benefit.
Louis: Have you ever seen any episodes of House?
Tahmeed: What were your favourite lines from Blackadder 2.
Luke: Here's 5 off the top of my head-
'YOU HAVE A WOMAN'S HAND'
'So has syphilis, now get out'
'Personally, however, I like to start my day with a total dickhead to remind me I'm best'
'I wish Percy was here..... Getting tortured instead of me'
'Yes, I was one of his sheep!'
Louis: What are your Top 10 favorite makeup & hairstyling Oscar winners?
Just watched The Little Things. Absolutely atrocious film. One of the worst of the year so far (along with The Marksman).
Here is my review for my full thoughts:
https://letterboxd.com/matt_0515/film/the-little-things-2021/
Also here are my full thoughts on The Marksman if you’re curious at all:
https://letterboxd.com/matt_0515/film/the-marksman-2021/
Little Things Cast Ratings:
Washington - 2.5
Malek - 3
Leto - 1
The Marksman:
Neeson - 2
Perez - 1
Winnick - 2.5
Raba - 1.5
PS: i’m forced to watch these type of films since i live in a household that worships stuff like Denzel Washington, Fast and Furious, any big action star (The Rock, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Diesel, etc.), so... yeah
Louis: What would be some of your most disappointing "based on a true story" films? As in, films that are inspired by an incredibly fascinating/provoking event, but either miss the ball completely or are just horribly pedestrian.
I would imagine "Dark Waters" might qualify since the Dupont Teflon scandal is one of the most intricate, personally frustrating controversies I've ever researched. And while I haven't seen the film, based on the thoughts you gave, it didn't seem nearly as potent.
Matthew: I mean, as far as film series/stars to worship...you could do a lot worse.
I didn't mention this at the time, but I was in a similar situation last month when I watched "Fatman"...and yah, just a cursory glance at that film's synopsis should give you an idea of its quality.
Mitchell: True haha XD
Also, while digging through some old posts looking for Louis' "Dark Waters" thoughts, it did give me a chance to look at my older comments...
I don't mean to sound self-pitying, but has anyone else looked back on there digital footprint, and can't believed the stuff they used to watch/say?
Mitchell: You have no idea.
Mitchell: Not really, I do look way back sometimes and I suppose my grammar was just passable then. I think I was the one who started the whole ratings and thoughts craze (Before it became the norm) when I started commenting too.
Robert and Luke: I will say, with my experiences with social media and blogging being what they are, this site has done a great deal in promoting and "channeling" its users towards civil discourse.
More than anything, I think the difference between me now and me a few years back is I've learned not everything needs my input; And more crucially, a lot of things that can be written in 2+ paragraphs are better served in live conversations.
Mitchell: No matter the topic, I stay far away from those sites because far too many bash others for difference of opinion that gets to the point of bullying.
off-toüpc, but just wanted to mention it: i just watched Sin City 2 (i don't know why either) and oh my god, Chris Meloni is absolute shit in it ...
Luke:
Mulligan - (So much of the film is really about her being a woman who is middle aged that it is particularly noticeable, and I mean come on, she's four years older than Lily James as the "youth" who she's counseling to "seize the day". Anyways, Mulligan nonetheless I think, even with the visual miscasting that you can't avoid, brings an honesty within her own performance and a wonderful low key respectable kind of charm to the performance. She brings an earnest sense of wisdom and strikes the right sort of warm notes with Fiennes. It is a good performance even if that quality of miscasting is always there, I'll say even as Mulligan carries herself older, she still has her face, so can't quite work despite her best efforts.)
Fiennes - (Fiennes manages to live into the part and brings an authenticity to this man, almost literally, of the earth type. He brings a nice sort of character actor style riff within the part. The best scenes of the film being his moments of directly inspiring others through his particular and very idiosyncratic views. Fiennes delivers these moments wonderfully as there is a bluntness about them, yet all the same they are quiet earnest.)
I'll probably consider them together.
Anonymous:
Emily Watson
Tahmeed:
A couple, as in two.
Aidan:
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. Pan's Labyrinth
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (how wasn't Two Towers nominated?)
4. The Fly
5. Bram Stoker's Dracula
6. Beetlejuice
7. Dick Tracy
8. Mad Max: Fury Road
9. An American Werewolf in London
10. Amadeus
Mitchell:
Any FDR movie.
300: Rise of An Empire
The Fifth Estate
Parkland
Any bad Tudor movie
A Dangerous Method
Suffragette
Mark Felt and the man who danced around the White House
The Front Runner
Bohemian Rhapsody
To name a few.
Louis: Could Hurt take the win for 80 Lead?
Tahmeed:
1980 lead is not a done deal.
Louis: Is the Woods review coming tonight.
Louis: Do you think it's about time Christopher Nolan does his Howard Hughes biopic next with Jim Carrey in the lead.
Luke:
I think the project is probably dead unfortunately, as I think it is time Nolan does something strictly, or at least largely, character driven.
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