Tuesday, 23 February 2016

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1962

And the Nominees Were Not:

Robert Ryan in Billy Budd

Peter Sellers in Lolita

Lee Marvin in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

Tatsuya Nakadai in Sanjuro

Robert Duvall in To Kill a Mockingbird

Brock Peters in To Kill a Mockingbird

For prediction purposes: Duvall from the mockingbird men.

And for a single review spectacular:
The supporting cast of Lawrence of Arabia:

Arthur Kennedy in Lawrence of Arabia

Claude Rains in Lawrence of Arabia

Jose Ferrer in Lawrence of Arabia

Alec Guinness in Lawrence of Arabia

Anthony Quinn in Lawrence of Arabia

Jack Hawkins in Lawrence of Arabia

Anthony Quayle in Lawrence of Arabia

For prediction purposes, eh rank em all if you wish.

60 comments:

GM said...

1. Ryan
2. Sellers
3. Marvin
4. Nakadai
5. Duvall

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Robert Ryan
2. Tatsuya Nakadai
3. Peter Sellers
4. Lee Marvin
5. Robert Duvall (I do prefer Peters though...Duvall is good but he makes Borgnine in From Here to Eternity look like a lead performance.)

And as for the others...well fuck it

1. Ferrer
2. Rains
3. Kennedy
4. Quayle
5. Guinness
6. Quinn
7. Hawkins

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Nakadai
2. Ryan
3. Sellers
4. Marvin
5. Duvall (I also prefer Peters)

Calvin Law said...

1. Ryan
2. Sellers
3. Marvin
4. Nakadai
5. Duvall (he's my favourite of the supporting cast but I'll be first to agree that it's quite an odd choice for a request)

1. Rains
2. Quayle
3. Ferrer
4. Guinness
5. Kennedy
6. Hawkins
7. Quinn

Calvin Law said...

I should also note I think every performance in To Kill a Mockingbird is pitch perfect for me down to the smallest supporting role.

Calvin Law said...

Also hope Sharif goes up to a 5.

Maciej said...

1.Sellers
2.Nadakai
3.Marvin
4.Duvall
5.Ryan

LoA:

1.Rains
2.Ferrer
3.Quinn
4.Guinness
5.Hawkins
6.Quale
7.Kennedy

Luke Higham said...

1. Ryan
2. Sellers
3. Nakadai
4. Marvin
5. Duvall

1. Rains
2. Ferrer
3. Guinness
4. Hawkins
5. Quinn
6. Quayle
7. Kennedy

Luke Higham said...

Louis: How would you rank the cast of Wolf Hall and, if possible, your favourite scene from Rylance's performance.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top ten performances of the 2010s so far.

Alex Marqués said...

I was about to ask the same thing luke hahaha by the way which would be your list?

Luke Higham said...

Alex: In no particular order.
Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler
Tom Hardy in The Revenant
Guy Pearce in The Rover
Joaquin Phoenix in The Master
Jennifer Jason Leigh in The Hateful Eight
Gary Oldman in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Marion Cotillard in The Immigrant
Ben Foster in Ain't Them Bodies Saints
Essie Davis in The Babadook
Saoirse Ronan in Brooklyn

Anonymous said...

1. Ryan
2. Sellers
3. Marvin
4. Nakadai
5. Duvall

1. Rains
2. Ferrer
3. Guinness
4. Hawkins
5. Quinn
6. Kennedy
7. Quayle

Michael Keaton said...

Rank nominees by films in black-white:
1 - Sellers
2 - Nakadai
3 - Marvin
4 - Ryan
5 - Duvall

Rank of actor's Lawrence of Arabia, holy shit! But let's go:
1 - Guinness (always him)
2 - Rains
3 - Quinn
4 - Ferrer
5 - Hawkins
6 - Kennedy
7 - Quayle

Robert MacFarlane said...

My top 10 performances for the decade (in no particular order):

Marion Cotillard in Two Days, One Night
Ethan Hawke in Boyhood
Brad Pitt in The Tree of Life
Essie Davis in The Babadook
Joaquin Phoenix in The Master
Bel Powley in Diary of a Teenage Girl
Jesse Eisenberg in The Social Network
Marion Cotillard in Inception
Oscar Isaac in Inside Llewyn Davis
Oscar Isaac in A Most Violent Year

Alex Marqués said...

Oscar Isaac is just too awesome.

Calvin Law said...

Rooney Mara in Carol
Saoirse Ronan in Brooklyn
Ian McKellen in Mr Holmes
Alicia Vikander in Ex Machina
Tom Hardy in Locke
J.K. Simmons in Whiplash
Oscar Isaac in Inside Llewlyn Davis
Sandra Bullock in Gravity
Daniel Day Lewis in Lincoln
Gary Oldman in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

Calvin Law said...

Oh yeah take out Bullock for Cotillard in Inception.

Alex Marqués said...

From what I've seen:

Joaquin Phoenix & PSH - The Master
Michael Fassbender - Macbeth
Rooney Mara - Carol
Jennifer Jason Leigh - H8
Oscar Isaac - Inside Llewyn Davis
Jake Gyllenhaal - Nightcrawler
Marion Cotillard - Two Days One Night (Haven't seen The Immigrant)
Michael Shannon - Take Shelter
JK Simmons - Whiplash
Richard Jenkins - Bone Tomahawk

...it's really hard

Anonymous said...

@Robert McFarlane: what do you think of Cate and Rooney in Carol?

By the way my top 10 in no particular order:
Michael Fassbender, Shame
Cate Blanchett, Carol
Rooney Mara, Carol
Oscar Isaac, Inside Llewyn Davis
James McAvoy, Filth
Marion Cotillard, The Immigrant
Anne Dorval, Mommy
Scarlett Johansson, Under the Skin
Michael Fassbender, 12 Years a Slave
Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler

Robert MacFarlane said...

Both are excellent. I want to see the movie again before I give a more detailed answer.

Anonymous said...

Alex: I honestly can't think of my top 10 performances of the 2010's.

Alex Marqués said...

It's understadable, I just went with the ones right off the top of my head ;)

Alex Marqués said...

understandable*

Luke Higham said...

There's only 2, maybe 3 performances from 2015, that I could see getting into Louis' top ten and that's Jennifer Jason Leigh in The Hateful Eight, Tom Hardy in The Revenant and Nicholas Hoult in Mad Max: Fury Road.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: With the Oscareview videos, do you plan on re-editing the ones you have during the bonus rounds.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Gun to my head, my favorite of the 2010's so far is probably Pitt in Tree of Life. May swing to Phoenix or Cotillard (2D1N).

Anonymous said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the criticism that actors of the golden age mostly played themselves?

JackiBoyz said...

1. Ryan
2. Sellers
3. Nakadai
4. Marvin
5. Duvall

1. Rains
2. Ferrer
3. Guinness
4. Hawkins
5. Quinn
6. Quayle
7. Kennedy

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Also, your ten worst performances of the 2010s.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I'm going to take a wild guess that Redmayne in Jupiter Ascending is ranked as number one on his list. And also, his performance in My Week With Marilyn is also there. Oh, Redmayne's such a mediocre actor.

Alex Marqués said...

Don't forget The Danish Girl lol

Anonymous said...

Alex: Oh, that as well.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

1. Mark Rylance
2. Damian Lewis
3. Claire Foy
4. Jessica Raine
5. Joanne Whalley
6. Jonathan Pryce
7. Charity Wakefield
8. Anton Lesser
9. Saskia Reeves
10. Bernard Hill
11. Mathieu Amalric
12. Harry Lloyd
13. Thomas Brodie-Sangster
14. Mark Gatiss
15. Tom Holland
16. Bryan Dick

Best scene for Rylance? A tough call I might have to go with when he finally lashes out against More directly.

No bad performances really though Bryan Dick just felt rather standard as Richard Rich and left much to be desired especially given how important he will become if they continue on to Cromwell's downfall as well as when compared to John Hurt's stellar performance in the same role.

Joaquin Phoenix in The Master
Marion Cotillard in The Immigrant
Tom Hardy in The Revenant
Mark Strong in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Jennifer Jason Leigh in The Hateful Eight
Choi Min-Sik in I Saw the Devil
Gary Oldman in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler
James McAvoy in Filth
Nicholas Hoult in Mad Max: Fury Road

Some adjustments.

In regards to the videos I make no promises, but I do intend to sometime to redo the older ones.

Here are some worst awards instead:

The Cinematic Abomination Award:

Eddie Redmayne in Jupiter Ascending

The Wiseau Award:

Kiefer Sutherland in Pompeii

The Worst Excuse for a bad performance Award:

Thomas Horn in Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close
(But his character's suppose to have Aspergers!)

Worst performance in a Good Movie:

Karen Gillan in Guardians of the Galaxy

The Make Something Horrible Funny Award:

Matt Milne in War Horse (For Making Getting gassed hilarious)

Finally the Career Achievement Award for trying to sabotage your own movie with your terrible performances goes to:

Quentin Tarantino

Anonymous:

A good question. I think to start off its best to ask a few questions are Tom Joad and Frank the same man? Are they merely Henry Fonda? Are George Bailey and Scottie Ferguson the same man? Are they merely James Stewart? Are Rocky Sullivan and George M. Cohan the same man? Are they merely James Cagney? Heck are even Cody Jarrett and Rocky Sullivan the same man? The answer to all of those questions is no. That view, which I feel I hear far too often, in itself is taking a simplistic view of what acting entails. It basically envisions acting as only mannerisms or accents, which can be part of a performance, but are not what makes a performance. That undervalues what really is most often the most important quality of acting which is finding the emotional truth behind who the person is and what they are going through. You could find a group of men who basically have a similair way of speaking and more or less the same mannerisms. That does not make them the same men in the slightest. The best golden age actors crafted unique characterizations with their best performances, not by changing up their accents, but by realizing exactly who their character was as a person.

Robert MacFarlane said...

People who tend to make the argument that actors from the golden age always played themselves literally have no clue about how cinema evolves, or the importance of a screen persona.

Anonymous said...

Louis: The golden age actors who get more of that criticism are Grant and Wayne.

Alex Marqués said...

Bogart gets that criticism sometimes too

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Yay Matt Milne won something =D, by the way did you ever see Siskel and Eberts worst of 1992, I recommend checking out Alan Aldas work in Whispers In The Dark or at least watch the funniest scene, lol a gaffer hook stuck in Alan Aldas head and he stumples like he is drunk lol.

1. Ryan
2. Nakadai
3. Sellers
4. Marvin
5. Duvall

1. Rains
2. Ferrer
3. Guinness
4. Hawkins
5. Quinn
6. Kennedy
7. Quayle

JackiBoyz said...

RatedRStar: Saw your FB post, you are not a freak lol?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

What I wrote I feel holds true for Wayne, Grant and Bogart as well. A funny thing in regards to Wayne actually is many say he won his Oscar for playing himself, but he actually gives a surprisingly mannered performance in True Grit.

Anonymous said...

Louis: I don't know about Bogart. I kind of thought his Marlowe was different from Sam Spade, only less nastier.

Anonymous said...

Louis: I know you don't care much for Hepburn/Tracy, but of these two pairings, who do you prefer? Powell/Loy or Bogart/Bacall?

Calvin Law said...

Not exactly from the 'golden age' so to speak but Sidney Poitier is another actor I get annoyed when people say he was 'playing himself'. Sure, a lot of his characters utilised that unique charm of his but you've got talent like that you've got to make use of it in the right way, and he always used it to add to his characterisations.

Anonymous said...

Calvin: I would say Poitier is from the Golden Age. He started in the early 50's.

Luke Higham said...

Saw The Finest Hours, it's a fairly standard rescue drama, though with some solid acting by Pine, Affleck and Foster.

Pine - 3/3.5
Foster - 3.5
Affleck - 3.5

I'm probably seeing Triple 9 tomorrow.

Michael Patison said...

1. Robert Ryan
2. Tatsuya Nakadai
3. Peter Sellers
4. Lee Marvin
5. Robert Duvall

As for the Lawrence of Arabia cast, I guess I'll just go in the order I liked them (but moving complicated villains above Guinness):
1. Claude Rains
2. José Ferrer
3. Alec Guinness
4. Jack Hawkins
5. Anthony Quinn
6. Arthur Kennedy
7. Anthony Quayle

Luke Higham said...

6. Kennedy
7. Quayle
I remember Louis, not being particularly enthusiastic in reviewing Quayle.

mcofra7 said...

1. Robert Ryan
2. Tatsuya Nakadai
3. Peter Sellers
4. Lee Marvin
5. Robert Duvall

1. Rains
2. Ferrer
3. Guinness
4. Hawkins
5. Quinn
6. Quayle
7. Kennedy

Calvin Law said...

Hoping Quayle exceeds expectations. He was such a brilliant performer and his heartbreaking depiction of a morally conflicted officer is among his best work, alongside his performances as Falstaff and his spellbindingly enigmatic work in Ice Cold in Alex. Harry Brighton may not stand out as being the flashiest character in Lawrence of Arabia, but his personal arc may well be the most moving.

Anonymous: Well, all the better then.

Calvin Law said...

I've never really gotten the extreme love for Ferrer (who I think is a very effective one scene wonder but in my opinion, O'Toole is still the highlight of the scene for me). He's still really good though. Guinness, Kennedy, and especially Rains definitely grow on re-watches, Quinn and Hawkins are solid but never really stand out that much. Sharif and Quayle are the MVP's of the supporting cast for me because they make their little personal storylines within the film resonate so much.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Apart from Geza Rohrig in Son Of Saul and the Straight Outta Compton guys, do you have any bonus round suggestions for 2015.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I've heard good things about Fredrick Lau in Victoria and Christopher Abbott in James White.

Anonymous said...

Looks like DiCaprio's next project is another biopic.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Jesus Christ, Leo, do another comedy.

Anonymous said...

He wants that second Oscar...

Matt Mustin said...

I'm just waiting for Devil in the White City.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Surely Leo must know that serial killers never get Oscars unless they're in Supporting.

Oh shit, he'll totally go category fraud for Oscar #2:

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Powell and Loy without question.

Matt:

Seconded hopefully directed Scorsese, as I'd love to see what he could do with a serial killer film.

Robert:

Well he was nominated at SAG for supporting for the Departed, and obviously H.H. Holmes will be supporting the film. Seriously though if it gets made, and it seems DiCaprio is going to get nominated everyone can already mark down whoever is going to play Detective Geyer.

Matt Mustin said...

I'm curious as to who they'll get for Burnham.

Michael Keaton said...

And now to my rank of these actors from films black-white and Lawrence of Arabia:

1 - Sellers (it's time him wins of Overall Rank)
2 - Guinness
3 - Nakadai
4 - Rains
5 - Quinn
6 - Ferrer
7 - Marvin
8 - Hawkins
9 - Ryan
10 - Kennedy
11 - Duvall
12 - Peters
13 - Quayle