And the Nominees Were Not:
John Goodman in True Stories
Dean Stockwell in Blue Velvet
Alan Ruck in Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Ray Liotta in Something Wild
Clancy Brown in Highlander
Chow Yun-Fat in A Better Tomorrow
Tom Noonan in Manhunter
Rutger Hauer in The Hitcher
Michael Caine in Mona Lisa
David Bowie in Labyrinth
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Louis no. 1 for Best Actor winning the Oscar twice in a row. When's the last time that happened?
^And if you go back to Hopkins, that's three out of the last five that have matched.
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Ginger And Fred
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Duet For One
Dust In The Wind
Desert Hearts
The Horse Thief
She's Gotta Have It
The Beekeeper
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His Motorbike, Her Island
Dead Man's Letters
1. Liotta
2. Stockwell
3. Brown
4. Goodman
5. Ruck
1. Noonan
2. Hauer
3. Caine
4. Bowie
5. Chow
Last time was 84/85 Abraham/Hurt.
Pretty disappointed in Torres not winning (though Madison is deserving), but it was a pretty good night. Perez underperforming, I'm Still Here winning in International Film, and just generally some pretty good winners.
I'll need to watch Highlander before making these predictions.
Louis: And a re-watch of Little Shop Of Horrors.
1. Ruck (if he doesn’t get a 5, I’ll eat my hat)
2. Stockwell
3. Liotta
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Noonan
2. Hauer
3. Caine
4. Chow
5. Bowie (wouldn’t be shocked if you skip a review)
The Memoriam left out Alain Delon, Olivia Hussey, Michelle Trachtwnberg and Shannen Doherty.
Luke, rating predictions.
Louis, how do you rank the Best Director Nominees of the Decade so far?
Louis, could you rewatch Star Trek IV before the round is over?
Anonymous: I'd rather see how it plays out though I hope Brown gets a 4.5, the best fantasy villain performance of the 80s.
1. Liotta
2. Stockwell
3. Goodman
4. Ruck
5. Brown
1. Hauer
2. Caine
3. Bowie
4. Noonan
5. Chow
Louis: thoughts on Conan hosting? Thought he was great.
Louis: Thoughts on Adrien Brody's speech?
Matt: I thought it was pretty disrespectful to Salles and a lot of below the line winners to have their speeches cut short while Brody was allowed to ramble on and on. Great actor, but great orator, he is not.
1. Stockwell
2. Liotta
3. Brown
4. Ruck
5. Goodman
1. Noonan
2. Caine
3. Chow
4. Hauer
5. Bowie
Tahmeed: I might've found "I've done this before" charming if it was ANYONE else, but he has no charm in his entire being.
One of the funnier things is Sean Baker's three speeches combined I don't think even came close to the length of Brody's. And also waving off the orchestra to say nothing substantial in particular.
Wasn't crazy about Saldana or Culkin's speeches either. In contrast, Madison's was nicely simple and sweet and by far the best of any of the actors.
Louis, your thoughts on the ceremony as a whole?
Calvin: Regarding the winners - I feel like they've definitely become more cinephile-friendly the past few years, starting with the EEAAO sweep.
I'm gonna wait for the first review to make predictions
Happy overall with most of the winners. Wish I could have seen Madison and the Anora BP wins live, which I'll blame Brody and Hulu for fucking up.
Louis: If there's a possibility of Matlin going up for Children Of A Lesser God, could you give it a re-watch as well.
1.Stockwell
2.Liotta
3.Ruck
4.Goodman
5.Brown
1.Noonan
2.Caine
3.Chow
4.Bowie
5.Hauer
Alright, here's mine:
1. Stockwell
2. Liotta
3. Ruck
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Noonan
2. Chow
3. Caine
4. Hauer
5. Bowie
1. Liotta
2. Stockwell
3. Ruck
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Noonan
2. Hauer
3. Caine
4. Chow
5. Bowie
Louis: Your thoughts on William Forsythe, Charlie Cox, Bobby Cannavale, Meg Chambers Steedle and Christopher McDonald in Boardwalk Empire.
1) Liotta
2) Stockwell
3) Ruck
4) Brown
5) Goodman
1) Noonan
2) Caine
3) Chow
4) Bowie
5) Hauer
Anonymous:
I thought he was hilarious, I would love to see him return with a better produced show.
Matt:
Rambling and self-indulgent. Which is a shame because if he had left it off with just his first half it would've been decent but he just kept going.
Tony:
The pacing was especially terrible here and I hate how the producers so consistently fail to find a balance. Rather than consider extra length for speeches they end up giving the shaft to the later non-overly famous winners, I mean the fact that Salles was rushed along was especially egregious. And part of the problem was the musical performances, which I like Bond but there was no need for that song set, despite it being largely well done, Quincy Jones deserves the shoutout but again throwing in a song from the Wiz so late just derailed any momentum. I honestly think all musical performances should be contained to the first half and should amount to no more than 10 minutes worth of the show's runtime, because at the end of the day the reason everyone is there is to see the winners, which should remain the priority. Conan being actually funny did keep things from being a terrible show on the whole, so while choosing him as host was a great choice, many of their other choices were questionable at best.
Louis how would you rank the winners this year?
I'm so glad I didn't stay up to watch it live.
Anonymous:
I'm Still Here
Adrien Brody
The Brutalist (Best Original Score)
The Brutalist (Best Cinematography)
The Substance (Best Makeup)
Dune Part II (Best VFX)
Mikey Madison
Dune Part II (Best Sound)
Sean Baker (Best Director)
Anora (Best Picture)
Anora (Best Original Screenplay)
Anora (Best Editing)
Flow
Wicked (Best Production Design)
Wicked (Best Costume Design)
Conclave (Best Adapted Screenplay)
Kieran Culkin
Zoe Saldana
"El Mal"
1. Ruck
2. Stockwell
3. Liotta
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Noonan
2. Hauer
3. Caine
4. Chow
5. Bowie (wouldn’t be shocked if you skip a review)
Louis: Is there a chance you could review John C. McGinley in Platoon?
I'll give my predictions on the first two reviews.
Louis: What did you think of Garfield/Hawn and Morgan Freeman's tribute to Gene Hackman.
Louis: may I ask what your ranking would be for the 23 performances between the now 11 actors who've won the Best Actor Oscar multiple times?
1) Liotta
2) Stockwell
3) Ruck
4) Brown
5) Goodman
1) Noonan
2) Caine
3) Chow
4) Hauer
5) Bowie
Just to add some clarity to my question: the 23 performances I'm referring to are the winning performances between the 11 actors who've won the Best Actor Oscar multiple times
1. Stockwell
2. Liotta
3. Ruck
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Caine
2. Noonan
3. Hauer
4. Bowie
5. Chow
Possibly splitting hairs, but I don't think Bye Bye Birdie was original to the movie.
5º Clancy Brown
4º John Goodman
3º Dean Stockwell
2º Ray Liotta
1º Alan Ruck
5º Chow Yun-Fat
4º David Bowie
3º Rutger Hauer
2º Tom Noonan
1º Michael Caine
Louis: Thoughts on "I Won't Waste Time" (classic Conan), and what were some of your favourite jokes of his?
J96:
1. Yorgos Lanthimos - Poor Things
2. Christopher Nolan - Oppenheimer
3. Steven Spielberg - The Fabelmans
4. Thomas Vinterberg - Another Round
5. Brady Corbet - The Brutalist
6. Paul Thomas Anderson - Licorice Pizza
7. Steven Spielberg - West Side Story
8. Martin McDonagh - The Banshees of Inisherin
9. Todd Field - Tar (Who could easily go even higher with another rewatch).
10. Chloe Zhao - Nomadland
11. Lee Isaac Chung - Minari
12. Sean Baker - Anora
13. Coralie Fargeat - The Substance
14. Emerald Fennell - Promising Young Woman
15. Ryusuke Hamaguchi - Drive My Car
16. The Daniels - Everything Everywhere All At Once
17. Martin Scorsese - Killers of the Flower Moon
18. Jonathan Glazer - The Zone of Interest
19. Justine Triet - Anatomy of a Fall
20. Ruben Ostlund - Triangle of Sadness
21. Jane Campion - The Power of the Dog
22. David Fincher - Mank
23. Kenneth Branagh - Belfast
24. James Mangold - A Complete Unknown
25. Jacques Audiard - Emilia Perez
Harris:
I’ve seen it more or less fairly recently.
Luke:
Probably not.
Anonymous:
Forsythe - (Always a welcome presence for most things, and really his success here is making you believe him as a period type. And I’ll say something within Boardwalk seems to be those who can sort of play to period successfully and the few, thankfully, who play to period too much in the broad strokes. Forsythe wonderfully plays in period constructing himself within a certain type with his strong accent, though his accent work elevates his entire performance, as his overall demeanor and presence backs it up. As Forsythe brings this distinct sincerity of it that makes it an innate facet of the man, that in no way keeps him from being appropriately intimidating, in fact Forsythe uses his accent work to amplify that by presenting this certain no nonsense quality within his work that fuels his performance. Importantly Forsythe could’ve been just a plot point in terms of a certain facet of Nucky versus Jimmy, but he’s not, Forsythe brings his own internal life that is in part the vicious gangster on his own which he succeeds with, however he also has some wonderfully human moments, such as his relatively brief screentime in season 4 where you could see more of his character by what Forsythe brings to it.)
Cox - (I think he works best when being the charming alternative romantic with Macdonald where Cox’s earnestness and charm as a performer comes through effectively. There Cox finds the right chemistry with her and just a contrasting sincerity about him that distinguishes his character within the underworld. Where I was less impressed was the notions of his character’s background as a hardened IRA man, particularly the scene of the impromptu assassination of a traitor. Cox just doesn’t bring enough internalization in those moments to really convince you of years of a man living through conflict and hardship. These ideas needed to be something you sensed in his bones but Cox makes it too light of an emotional element, that even when he’s directly talking about his experiences they seem kind of phony because Cox doesn’t age the experiences he just says them. Again I still think he works in part of his performances, but on the whole someone else could’ve brought more to this role.)
Cannavale - (I will begin by saying that it is absolutely ridiculous that he was the only supporting actor nominated for the series with Huston, Whigham, Graham, Shannon, Williams all being consistently deserving both in and out of Cannavale’s season. Beyond that I do think occasionally the type I thought he went just a touch too big in certain moments. Having said that I still think his performance largely worked in terms of basically playing a gangster somehow even more sensitive than Tommy DeVito. Where Cannavale worked best are those moments of more of the quiet unease that builds up to the rage, where you just see in his work the guy waiting for an excuse to be angry about something, however that anger being completely genuine in the extreme inferiority complex of his character. Cannavale in those moments hits just the right comedic yet still dramatic tone in presenting the immediate offense and creating a compelling antagonist who in a way you fear less because of his cunning and more of his ability to be offended by just about anything.)
Steedle - (For playing the mistress I thought she brought the right type of energy to the part that manages to sort of show her appeal to Nucky by in many ways not being burdened by so many things as basically everyone else Nucky deals with consistently. Finding the sort of flapper energy specifically without playing too hard into type, rather finding the right type of charm within the central idea of the type. Importantly though balancing in the moments of the more serious conversation Steedle does nicely pull back to create the sense of the real person who is working very much a condition deal with Nucky that she’s honest about in every sense, even when he isn’t.)
McDonald - (Works as a fairly straightforward character actor role for him of just being the fairly straightforward politician who doesn’t hide his shady dealings but also deals with them very much as an average occurrence. I wouldn’t say McDonald stands out, but his performance works in playing very much into the directness of the character from the moments of an initial friendship to later frustrations, McDonald always shows it as part of the same game that suggests someone who very much lives in it in the most practical of ways.)
Lucas:
We’ll see my inclusion of Bowie was mainly to give me an excuse to watch Labyrinth the whole way through at once, but if he’s nothing to write home about I might write about someone else.
Michael:
The song “Bye Bye Birdie” was a new song for the film version.
Jonathan:
The Garfield Hawn moment was sweet enough, and Freeman was a wonderful sendoff for Hackman, classy in every sense of the word.
Tony:
An enjoyable over the top song and dance number that honestly stems all the way back to his monorail song from The Simpsons. Though I do wish he had referenced it later by saying something akin to "I won't waste time but the show's producers will".
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Louis: What do you think of Star Trek IV on the whole?
Harris:
The fish out of water bits carry the film along for me to call it a success even if the plot is extremely thin and pretty on the nose even for Star Trek (though not for James Cameron) with its save the whales message, which while not a bad message it could've been a bit more subtle with it. Additionally has some weird moments like the depiction of time travel, but it is more often entertaining than not.
1. Liotta
2. Stockwell
3. Ruck
4. Goodman
5. Brown
1. Noonan
2. Caine
3. Bowie
4. Chow
5. Hauer
Louis: Your thoughts on Pitt, Palladino, Coleman, Camp, and de la Huerta in Boardwalk S2?
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