Pierre Brasseur did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Frédérick Lemaître in Children of Paradise.
Ah I return the the masterpiece that is Children of Paradise, now to complete my unfinished business, which I likely would've done if I had known Brasseur was going to be as good as he is, when I reviewed Jean-Louis Barrault as Baptiste Deburau in this film, particularly given the two performances, despite not always sharing screen time with one another, are reflections of each other in a way. Not as the expected antagonists, but rather two men who embody different natures both in the art of performance and the art of love. Brasseur's own performance being a stark contrast to Barrault, as we find him in the opening scenes of the film, which are absolutely brilliant in terms of the vividness of the world, and the tangible nature of every character we introduce, as we find his Frédérick just trying to find some way to break into the theatrical world. Brasseur's is just glowing with charisma here from the first instance where he asks to be let in with this slick sincerity though with a certain unquestioned sarcastic wit rolled into one as he cons, but does so with an obvious passion for the whole idea. When not immediately successful he happens upon the woman of many affections Garance (Arletty), where we get the complete opposite of what we will see with Barrault's Baptiste who is weighted down by his romantic intentions, with Frédérick, the man lives for romantic notions. Brasseur delivers every line with the utmost ease and as this natural flow of id almost in the notion of romance, as the man speaks with no barrier and his smile is burning bright with a not quite devious, but close to it, notion regarding Garance as he charms her quickly though briefly.
We follow him into attempting better in the world of the theater, where he attempts to find a job with the constantly stressed out theater owner who just wants successful productions but basically is weighted down by every possible chaotic event at every turn. Brasseur comes in with this manner of almost looking past everything, not quite as someone who is blind to it, he definitely notices it, but rather Brasseur conveys this sort of easy ambition of the man. Brasseur's performance having this effortless combination of the man who very much wants to perform, lives for it really, to the point he loves to casually reference Shakespeare like a proper fan, but presents it as the nature of the man. Brasseur expresses this specific love the stage, love of performance, but again, as against in contrast to Barrault, where we see this strict devotion to the performance as his mime where the craft is of this specified intensity, Brasseur brilliantly makes it all look easy, though never do you ever think he is less than absolutely as passionate for the art, it is just the different kind of approach to it. That difference between the men reinforced again as we see their approach to love, where Frédérick, is best described as really love just about every female he passes by, including seducing an older landlady, which is a scene that Brasseur plays so perfectly, because he is able to express this as just the id of the man. While there is lust to be sure, Brasseur doesn't make him sleazy or hideous, because his notions of true romance are true, but again, where Baptiste suffers for his love, Frédérick is invigorated by it. To the point where each has a chance with Garance sexually, which Baptiste almost runs from for not being a perfect version of how he sees true love, Brasseur is great as Frédérick immediately jumps at the chance. Brasseur portraying again a lack of weight to the notion rather he lives for the flirtation, brimming with joy as he catches her eye and gets the go ahead to join her for the night, which we Brasseur expresses a man who treats the idea lightly, but not blithely.
The film has a time jump for its second half where we re-enter with Frédérick changed by becoming even more than he already was, as we see Brasseur who is just amazing in somehow naturally turning the already over Frédérick to an even more extreme version of himself, and making it not only work, but incredibly entertaining. Brasseur's performance I think is subtly genius in that he does exude a slightly older manner even if it isn't focused upon too much, but the maturity speaks more to now this man fully developed into himself with this confidence even greater than before. Where Frédérick was a man of charm, using the charm to try to get ahead, this is now the man who is ahead, is well aware that his charm works and speaks a man whose actions have only fulfilled his wants. Brasseur now brandishes his unabashed shamelessness about himself, presenting himself with this particularly intense power of personality that is particularly captivating every second he is on screen. As we see him before rehearsing for a show, he is now a star of the stage, as we see him with two women hanging on him, and Brasseur exudes in every word and grin filled with a zest for himself, a man who wants to and is enjoying life. Even when angry creditors come to attack him, Brasseur's manner is a man taking it all in stride presenting Frédérick as merely accepting being him also requires a fight or two. We then are granted the performance side of Frédérick fully, where we had briefly seen him be slightly annoyed while playing a minor pantomime role in a Baptiste led production, here we see in full command of his art though to an Edward Norton level of ego as he comes into attempting to fix his dry uninteresting play, much to the ire of the play's creators. Brasseur though again is perfect in you see him certainly loving taking a few potshots at the unpleasant men, but at the same time his passion is very real, such as when explaining his changed outfit for the part does have honest logic to it, and within even still his smirk Brasseur grants conviction to wanting to put on the best show he can. Leading to one of the best scenes in this masterpiece where Frédérick performs to an adoring crowd by turning the straight drama basically into a parody, where he ad libs around the rote moments to make them work. Brasseur is outstanding throughout the sequence in again brandishing the performance of Frédérick essentially, and indeed selling this idea to us as he does the audience, and being as convincing as such. Being indeed hilarious in his manner of not taking any notion seriously with fourth wall breaks, he delivers with the utmost glee, and just being a pure delight that you'd likely be cheering for by the end of the production as well.
A unique scene for Brasseur comes right afterwards however where he finds Marcel Herrand's poet yet violent thief Lacenaire in his dressing room, who demands money, and naturally for Frédérick he takes it in stride. And in this sense you do get the charm offensive again where Brasseur very much presents a man who takes life in stride so a thief wanting to steal from him is just like anything else might happen so he brings the same jovial manner that he makes wholly convincing as he just wilfully offers to share his lottery winnings. Brasseur's manner I think is key here in that you do sense a slight concern in his eyes at moments when the man seems more threatening but only within his overall approach which is still as Frédérick just going about it as he does most things, with a love of life. Particularly as once all threat is gone, to the point Lacenaire even reveals another possible assailant working with him, who also happens to be a fan of Frédérick, Brasseur is incredible because you do see some genuine concern for a second, before going to the performer looking to hear a review of his performance from the men, where he presents that eagerness with the utmost sincerity, which is very comical sense he engaging with violent criminals, yet still entirely honest with how Brasseur presents the moment. Of course all his swaggering leads him to get shot in a duel, by unhappy playwrights, and afterwards what we get from Brasseur is a *slightly* more modest Frédérick for the remainder of the film. Frédérick ends up being the least important element in the last act, after dominating the opening of the second half, in fact is only accidentally into some dueling crossfire due a whole complex romantic cube that he's slightly part of. Regardless Brasseur still is a very welcome presence in every scene he is in, particularly when we do see him with his old companions from the first half, where Brasseur brings a remarkable warmth that is decidedly uncomplex compared to everyone else, showing a man still not weighted down, though now he delivers these words with just a bit more measure and sense of wisdom about them than before. Even when he expresses a slight bit of jealousy to the actual loves, Brasseur presents it as the man doing it all in good humor and actually brings this natural excitement as the feelings of jealousy he believes have made it so he can finally play his dream role of Othello. Where we very much exit him playing Othello to adoring crowds, and he gets a final conversation with some pompous men, where I think Brasseur is again great in the way he still has the ego no matter what, but kind of a less pestering eagerness. He still flawlessly delivers his witty asides to cut down the pompous men who dismiss Shakespeare, but Brasseur in the end shows the ego perhaps now is in service to a little greater goal than just his own enjoyment, not that one ever hated Frédérick even for that. And the entirety of this performance is an effortless delight, as he makes every moment he's onscreen shines, and provides the essential contrast of a man who is just as passionate and romantic as the rest of the characters, the difference is he always does it with a big smile on his face and glides through these notions as though he walks on air.
Ah I return the the masterpiece that is Children of Paradise, now to complete my unfinished business, which I likely would've done if I had known Brasseur was going to be as good as he is, when I reviewed Jean-Louis Barrault as Baptiste Deburau in this film, particularly given the two performances, despite not always sharing screen time with one another, are reflections of each other in a way. Not as the expected antagonists, but rather two men who embody different natures both in the art of performance and the art of love. Brasseur's own performance being a stark contrast to Barrault, as we find him in the opening scenes of the film, which are absolutely brilliant in terms of the vividness of the world, and the tangible nature of every character we introduce, as we find his Frédérick just trying to find some way to break into the theatrical world. Brasseur's is just glowing with charisma here from the first instance where he asks to be let in with this slick sincerity though with a certain unquestioned sarcastic wit rolled into one as he cons, but does so with an obvious passion for the whole idea. When not immediately successful he happens upon the woman of many affections Garance (Arletty), where we get the complete opposite of what we will see with Barrault's Baptiste who is weighted down by his romantic intentions, with Frédérick, the man lives for romantic notions. Brasseur delivers every line with the utmost ease and as this natural flow of id almost in the notion of romance, as the man speaks with no barrier and his smile is burning bright with a not quite devious, but close to it, notion regarding Garance as he charms her quickly though briefly.
We follow him into attempting better in the world of the theater, where he attempts to find a job with the constantly stressed out theater owner who just wants successful productions but basically is weighted down by every possible chaotic event at every turn. Brasseur comes in with this manner of almost looking past everything, not quite as someone who is blind to it, he definitely notices it, but rather Brasseur conveys this sort of easy ambition of the man. Brasseur's performance having this effortless combination of the man who very much wants to perform, lives for it really, to the point he loves to casually reference Shakespeare like a proper fan, but presents it as the nature of the man. Brasseur expresses this specific love the stage, love of performance, but again, as against in contrast to Barrault, where we see this strict devotion to the performance as his mime where the craft is of this specified intensity, Brasseur brilliantly makes it all look easy, though never do you ever think he is less than absolutely as passionate for the art, it is just the different kind of approach to it. That difference between the men reinforced again as we see their approach to love, where Frédérick, is best described as really love just about every female he passes by, including seducing an older landlady, which is a scene that Brasseur plays so perfectly, because he is able to express this as just the id of the man. While there is lust to be sure, Brasseur doesn't make him sleazy or hideous, because his notions of true romance are true, but again, where Baptiste suffers for his love, Frédérick is invigorated by it. To the point where each has a chance with Garance sexually, which Baptiste almost runs from for not being a perfect version of how he sees true love, Brasseur is great as Frédérick immediately jumps at the chance. Brasseur portraying again a lack of weight to the notion rather he lives for the flirtation, brimming with joy as he catches her eye and gets the go ahead to join her for the night, which we Brasseur expresses a man who treats the idea lightly, but not blithely.
The film has a time jump for its second half where we re-enter with Frédérick changed by becoming even more than he already was, as we see Brasseur who is just amazing in somehow naturally turning the already over Frédérick to an even more extreme version of himself, and making it not only work, but incredibly entertaining. Brasseur's performance I think is subtly genius in that he does exude a slightly older manner even if it isn't focused upon too much, but the maturity speaks more to now this man fully developed into himself with this confidence even greater than before. Where Frédérick was a man of charm, using the charm to try to get ahead, this is now the man who is ahead, is well aware that his charm works and speaks a man whose actions have only fulfilled his wants. Brasseur now brandishes his unabashed shamelessness about himself, presenting himself with this particularly intense power of personality that is particularly captivating every second he is on screen. As we see him before rehearsing for a show, he is now a star of the stage, as we see him with two women hanging on him, and Brasseur exudes in every word and grin filled with a zest for himself, a man who wants to and is enjoying life. Even when angry creditors come to attack him, Brasseur's manner is a man taking it all in stride presenting Frédérick as merely accepting being him also requires a fight or two. We then are granted the performance side of Frédérick fully, where we had briefly seen him be slightly annoyed while playing a minor pantomime role in a Baptiste led production, here we see in full command of his art though to an Edward Norton level of ego as he comes into attempting to fix his dry uninteresting play, much to the ire of the play's creators. Brasseur though again is perfect in you see him certainly loving taking a few potshots at the unpleasant men, but at the same time his passion is very real, such as when explaining his changed outfit for the part does have honest logic to it, and within even still his smirk Brasseur grants conviction to wanting to put on the best show he can. Leading to one of the best scenes in this masterpiece where Frédérick performs to an adoring crowd by turning the straight drama basically into a parody, where he ad libs around the rote moments to make them work. Brasseur is outstanding throughout the sequence in again brandishing the performance of Frédérick essentially, and indeed selling this idea to us as he does the audience, and being as convincing as such. Being indeed hilarious in his manner of not taking any notion seriously with fourth wall breaks, he delivers with the utmost glee, and just being a pure delight that you'd likely be cheering for by the end of the production as well.
A unique scene for Brasseur comes right afterwards however where he finds Marcel Herrand's poet yet violent thief Lacenaire in his dressing room, who demands money, and naturally for Frédérick he takes it in stride. And in this sense you do get the charm offensive again where Brasseur very much presents a man who takes life in stride so a thief wanting to steal from him is just like anything else might happen so he brings the same jovial manner that he makes wholly convincing as he just wilfully offers to share his lottery winnings. Brasseur's manner I think is key here in that you do sense a slight concern in his eyes at moments when the man seems more threatening but only within his overall approach which is still as Frédérick just going about it as he does most things, with a love of life. Particularly as once all threat is gone, to the point Lacenaire even reveals another possible assailant working with him, who also happens to be a fan of Frédérick, Brasseur is incredible because you do see some genuine concern for a second, before going to the performer looking to hear a review of his performance from the men, where he presents that eagerness with the utmost sincerity, which is very comical sense he engaging with violent criminals, yet still entirely honest with how Brasseur presents the moment. Of course all his swaggering leads him to get shot in a duel, by unhappy playwrights, and afterwards what we get from Brasseur is a *slightly* more modest Frédérick for the remainder of the film. Frédérick ends up being the least important element in the last act, after dominating the opening of the second half, in fact is only accidentally into some dueling crossfire due a whole complex romantic cube that he's slightly part of. Regardless Brasseur still is a very welcome presence in every scene he is in, particularly when we do see him with his old companions from the first half, where Brasseur brings a remarkable warmth that is decidedly uncomplex compared to everyone else, showing a man still not weighted down, though now he delivers these words with just a bit more measure and sense of wisdom about them than before. Even when he expresses a slight bit of jealousy to the actual loves, Brasseur presents it as the man doing it all in good humor and actually brings this natural excitement as the feelings of jealousy he believes have made it so he can finally play his dream role of Othello. Where we very much exit him playing Othello to adoring crowds, and he gets a final conversation with some pompous men, where I think Brasseur is again great in the way he still has the ego no matter what, but kind of a less pestering eagerness. He still flawlessly delivers his witty asides to cut down the pompous men who dismiss Shakespeare, but Brasseur in the end shows the ego perhaps now is in service to a little greater goal than just his own enjoyment, not that one ever hated Frédérick even for that. And the entirety of this performance is an effortless delight, as he makes every moment he's onscreen shines, and provides the essential contrast of a man who is just as passionate and romantic as the rest of the characters, the difference is he always does it with a big smile on his face and glides through these notions as though he walks on air.
92 comments:
I still have to get around to this film.
Louis: Any upgrades for the rest of the cast?
How do you rank the films and performances of David Cronenberg and Spike Lee? Also, how do you feel about Spike Lee re-making “High and Low”, taking into consideration his “Oldboy” re-make?
Louis, rating and thoughts on Arletty.
I watched Children of Paradise when I was in high school and distinctly remember it as the first film to make me think, “Wow, I need to start watching more foreign films.”
Which actors working today do you think are giving the most interesting interviews?
Do you think all-time great TV work can compete with all-time great film work?
Louis:
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/4/1/apple-has-no-plans-to-release-ridley-scotts-4-hour-napoleon-directors-cut
Thoughts on the Napoleon cast and your rating for Phoenix.
Is Kirby Lead or Supporting Actress and where would she rank in the top 20 for her category.
Even if there was a possibility of it happening in the distant future, I've no desire to wait that long.
Luke: World of Reel is not a legitimate source.
Matt: If there's no announcement by Gladiator 2, then I have to assume it's dead in the water.
Louis: Thoughts on this David Fincher quote?
“I have a philosophy about the two extremes of filmmaking. The first is the Kubrick way, where you’re at the end of an alley in which four guys kicking the shit out of a wino. Hopefully the audience members will know this scenario is morally wrong, even though it’s not presented as if it the viewer is the one being beaten up; it’s more as if you’re witnessing an event. Inversely, there’s the Spielberg way, where you’re dropped into the middle of the action and you’re going to live the experience vicariously, not only through what’s happening but though the emotional flow of what people are saying. It’s a much more involved style. I find myself attracted to both styles at different times, but mostly I’m interested in just presenting something and letting people decide for themselves what they want to look at.”
Tahmeed:
Herrand up to a 5. Cesares to a 4. Arletty to a 4.5.
Anonymous:
I'll admit when I first watched it I agreed with Roger Ebert that she was perhaps too old for the part, but now I reject such notions, perhaps because I'm older myself, but I found her plenty enticing this time around. Although much of it is her performance that is all about sort of the allure and enticement of the woman who isn't manipulating in her romances, but rather is very open with them in a way where there is a power to her forwardness even when she is under the thumb of the Count, due to legal maneuverings on her part, Arletty in each grants this sense of intelligence and really her mixes between playing with the differences of love and lust depending on the man she's interacting with. And she's particularly effective in the way she creates a different relationship with the thief, the mime, the actor and the count, and you see what each sees in her and what she gets out of each one differently by the way she articulates their interactions. The thief as the friend, the mime the true love, the actor the true lust, and the count, the convenience.
Tony:
Couldn't say in general, beyond obvious ones that are fun like Olivia Colman, Timothy Olyphant, and of course Jeff Goldblum, because I don't seek them out unless they're already known to be good, since more often than not these days, they're publicist mediated perfunctory as all get out.
J96:
Cronenberg:
1. The Fly
2. Videodrome
3. A History of Violence
4. The Dead Zone
5. Dead Ringers
6. Eastern Promises
7. Spider
8. Scanners
9. The Brood
10. Naked Lunch
11. Crimes of the Future
12. M. Butterfly
13. Cosmopolis
14. Shivers
15. A Dangerous Method
16. Crash
17. Maps to the Stars
18. Existenz
1. Jeremy Irons - Dead Ringers
2. Jeff Goldblum - The Fly
3. Christopher Walken - The Dead Zone
4. Viggo Mortensen - A History of Violence
5. Ed Harris - A History of Violence
6. Judy Davis - Naked Lunch
7. Miranda Richardson - Spider
8. Viggo Mortensen - Eastern Promises
9. James Woods - Videodrome
10. William Hurt - A History of Violence
Lee:
1. Inside Man
2. 25th Hour
3. Crooklyn
4. Do the Right Thing
5. Malcolm X
6. 4 Little Girls
7. Get On the Bus
8. School Daze
9. Chi-Raq
10. Blackkklansman
11. Summer of Sam
12. Da 5 Bloods
13. Red Hook Summer
14. Jungle Fever
15. Bamboozled
16. Oldboy
You can find Lee's performances under Delroy Lindo for Da Five Bloods. I also have previously commented on my reaction to his planned remake.
A:
I mean in terms of quality, yes.
Tony:
I actually would say Kubrick/Spielberg isn't quite extreme, Kubrick could be detached particularly later in his career but he wasn't actually always, as when he was offering negative emotions (fear) for example he would seek to engage on the emotional level, like take the bathroom scene in Full Metal Jacket, where the music, and lighting is intended to place you in an emotional state. Michael Haneke probably is closer to the idea, though to say he too doesn't manipulate would also be inaccurate. Anyway, that is an essential choice though regardless with a filmmaker, which is the strength of that voice of the filmmaker in terms of defining the emotion and intention, and leaving the level of interpretation to the viewer.
Louis: Your thoughts on the direction of Children of Paradise?
J96: You can find LM's thoughts on the High and Low remake here - https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2024/02/alternate-best-supporting-actor-2023_7.html
Louis: How much research have you done into the various schools of acting techniques (Method, esp. Stanislavski and who he influenced; classical acting; Meisner, etc.)? Have you ever viewed any videos teaching acting that you've found compelling (e.g. Michael Caine's "Acting in Film" BBC special; possibly even any MasterClass videos)?
Adjacent to Tony's question, I saw an interview with Ethan Hawke and Vincent D'Onofrio on Criterion Channel last year where they discussed method acting that was rather informative.
Louis: Thoughts on the costume design for Kagemusha and Ran.
Louis, where do you rank “She’s Gotta Have It” and “Mo Betta Blues”?
J96: He hasn't seen them yet.
The celebrity interview thing Tony and Robert mentioned is why I watch GQ's videos. Many of them are quite interesting and informative, even though certain films don't always make the cut.
For the Josh Brolin video, they failed to cover "Milk", nor did they talk about "In the Line of Fire" for John Malkovich. Both are unfourtunate ommissions IMO.
Mitchell: Yeah, and they didn't cover most of Brendan Fraser's non-blockbuster films in his video, for some reason. The Willem Dafoe video was surprisingly close to comprehensive, though.
Marcus:
I've liked Carne's direction in his other films, I currently put him in the top five twice for two other films, but this is one of those examples where a filmmaker seemed to step up beyond themselves in some way in terms of the sheer scope of what he conquers here. As the whole film is a spectacular achievement in terms of crafting such a tangible world. Any of the outdoor scenes are amazing in terms of what we see Carne has done in terms of the costumes, cinematography and production design, using them together, but also crafting the life of every character but really every crowd member. There is a distinct lack of "space" in this film because everyone is someone in terms of making this world so exact as a time and place, that only makes the story that much more tangible. Although speaking of that he has a mastery of tone here that is also spectacular in that he swings so naturally in making one moment deeply romantic, then another completely comic and never do they not feel as natural as another. With just standout moments of direction, such as the opening sequence, where every cut to Baptiste silently standing there, to the crowd people, and Garance, and Lacenaire going in for the steal, just is a masterful pure visual orchestration of a scene. Then every stage performance Carne shoots dynamically and differently, and we are never just watching, passively but experiencing it in part because of those glorious shots of the massive crowds in the theater that feel so essential in every moment that makes us both the viewer and the performer in a fascinating way. Take any given scene and there's several brilliant choices in each, with the overall design being just a truly stunning epic, that is an epic so specifically of its own nature and time in the best possible way.
Tony:
I have researched them and watched some videos on them, including Caine's. Though I don't really care. And what I mean by that is not a disregard for any method, as long as it doesn't harm others, but rather I only care what we see onscreen, and if the performance successfully delivers what it is trying to deliver. And I've seen basically great performances through so many different types of acting, that I don't care how they get there, as long as they get there.
Jonathan:
I feel I've given those at some point.
Louis: Whenever I see people calling the Stanislavski Method as The Method, I just think of this quote by Olivier.
"All this talk about the Method, the Method! What method? I thought each of us had our own method!"
Louis: What did you think of the Caine master class?
8000S: I mean, in fairness, "the Method" has been used to describe various different techniques, not just Stanislavski's.
Tony:
Caine's always a charmer which helps as a teacher, and he is quite good in explaining the specifics of trying to craft a performance specifically for film, with very much offering a movie star's perspective on his method.
Last year I took a special interest in Actor’s Studio brand of method acting that dominated the 50’s. What I found fascinating was how similar many actors in that Kazan-curated mould seemed to approach roles, but it came down to disciplined choices. Some were less restrained, but tapped into something maybe more uncomfortably “real” (James Dean), others were more fussy and self-aware (Brando), others were technically fussy on paper but knew how to disguise it (Newman).
The thing for me is that if all I can see is the technique and nothing else, you have failed.
Louis: Thoughts on this scene in Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada? https://youtu.be/7R5Bs9ymUKA?si=NWz1AtMpBVBIvzq6
Louis: Thoughts on this scene from Malcolm in the Middle and Cranston's performance in it?
https://youtu.be/rrQKJkj2f4g?si=VMQqJ5Lu00Z1IbCW
The First Omen's getting a good reception, Look forward to seeing it tomorrow.
Mitchell: Do you have any plans to continue your animation blog?
Also, what do you think of Slayer, Pantera, the Beatles, and Cannibal Corpse?
I enjoyed The First Omen, Nell Tiger Free was really good, a strong 4.5 for me.
Louis: Your cast for a Kurosawa version of The Tempest.
Tony: Truthfully, I'm not sure. I just glimpsed at how far back my last post was, and even I was surprised it's been so long.
I think it was a combination of varying life events, and not attracting as much feedback as I wanted, that led to me putting it on pause. If I did come back to it, I don't think I'd try reviewing a whole series like I did for "My Adventures with Superman". That was perhaps overly ambitious, and necistates an established viewership, and for long running shows, would be quite an endeavour. There are certainly reviews I think I did well on, like "Batman/Superman: Public Enemy", "Under the Redhood" and "Nausicaa", so I think I have it in me to write more. I'd certainly offer my two cents on some Star Wars or superhero animations, and would be down to review certain games and voice actors/their performances. For right now, however, it's slightly on the backburner.
And as to your music question....aside from "The Beatles", those are all groups I honestly know in name, but not much more. And even with "The Beatles", I like/know about them about the same as any casual, modern music listeners. In essence...I recognize their big hits, but don't have enough exposure to analyze them thoroughly.
If your still interested in my musical tastes, my main expertise is with rock/christian rock/punk groups from the 2000s onwards (Ex. Shinedown, Skillet, Breaking Benjamin, etc.) I could offer more complete thoughts on bands fitting that criteria.
Mitchell: I always think of Anberlin when I think of underrated Rock bands that have a christian but mainstream sound. Paperthin Hymn and a unheard of B track called All We Have I always remember being surprised by.
Louis: Have you ever listened to any film-related podcasts? Do you have any favourite nonfiction books on acting/filmmaking?
Mitchell: I see. Well, in that case, have you ever listened to Relient K and Flyleaf? The former was a bit of a "guilty pleasure" band for me in the past.
Tony: Flyleaf is SUCH a guilty pleasure band. Mostly if you look at any of their twitter feeds. But, can't pretend "All Around Me" isn't on my playlist.
I think I'm So Sick is a genuine banger, I remember seeing it on the Rock Band game, that and Guitar Hero were always great at finding hidden gems.
RatedRStar: I'd say underrated is a good description, since like many people, I'm unfamiliar with their work on the whole (insert Louis' Plainview image for Viggo in "Greenbook").
Tony:
Had a little sampling of both bands just now. "Pressing On" is an 2000s shonen OP incarnate, so that works with me. "Be my Escape" is a nice blend, in that the softer vocals pair well with the dynamic instrumentals, and vice virca. "All Around Me" has the trademark production of the era (white stage, contrasted with black/red), and Lacey Sturm has a good voice for the song's tone. "I'm so Sick" has a forceful guitar portion, so no surprise Rock Band picked it up.
Just from those four, I can infer both bands have my kind of jam for christian rock; Strong instrumentals and energy, with lyrics that are thematically true without being preachy or inaccesable to non-religious viewers. In short, I'd be down to listent to more from them.
Mitchell: Glad you enjoyed both bands. I actually couldn't tell either were Christian bands when I first heard them, which speaks to their accessibility. For Relient K, I'd recommend "Sadie Hawkins Dance" next. It's just a fun, crowdpleasing sort of rave-up song that holds a bit of nostalgic value for me.
Not gonna lie...I'm surprised how few comments we've generated this weekend.
So since music is still on the table, to Tony or anyone else...thoughts on the following tracks?
Artificial and Pieces - Daughtry (Not that this is a hot take or anything, but Chris has a really solid singing voice)
When the pain Comes - Black Stone Cherry
Devil You Know - Tim Montana
Mitchell: I get the sense that everyone is just very busy these days.
I currently don't have enough time to get to those songs yet, but I'd be happy to discuss more music with you. Have you listened to more from either Relient K or Flyleaf?
Additionally, which genres would you say you're the least attracted to? Which bands/artists do you listen to are the most stylistically dissimilar to those in your "main area of expertise"?
Louis: Have you watched any new TV?
Louis: Rating and thoughts on Joe Pesci in Moonwalker?
Might be showing my ass here, but does anyone watch modern Smosh videos? I've been watching their recent stuff (like last 1.5 years) and I kind of became a big fan. Only asking because they made the news with two of their members getting married for real and announcing it on April Fools Day (genuinely the only funny April Foo's prank I've encountered.)
Robert: I watched them growing up. Kind of stopped watching them, especially after Anthony left. Never did I think he would come back.
Robert: Had a bit of unfourtunate typo, eh...
Jokes aside, I do remember them but haven't watched their content in many years. The longest running channels I do follow would probably be Death Battle (that series specifically, not Screwattack), and Markiplier. Though for the latter, I've personally feel he's at his funniest when collabing with Wade and Bob.
Louis: Will you get the chance to see Monkey Man any time soon?
A: It's funny, Anthony coming back kind of threw off some good things they had going. They'd successfully shifted to improv-based stuff, and once he came back the main channel became him and Ian chasing nostalgia with scripted sketches again. Now Smosh Pit and Smosh Games are the better channels since they have the other cast members carrying them.
Tony: I've never really taken to rap, country or pop in most forms - though there are notable exceptions for each style.
And for atypical preferences, if we're going off of my spotify list, I do have some Anime themes, spanish language songs from Mana and Karol G, "Far Away" by Jose Gonzalez (shout out RDR1), "The Last of Us" by Gustavo Santaolalla (rather iconic instrumental IMO) and "O Saki Saki" which is an urdu song.
I also like "Come out, ye blacks and tans", but given the history and association of the track, I wouldn't reccomend playing it in some circles.
Tahmeed: Its been a long while since I've seen anything in theatres, but if I were to go soon, "Monkey Man" would be my choice.
Tahmeed:
I wanted to see it last weekend, but full disclosure, I had a medical emergency, I'm fine now, but will be in recovery for a couple weeks. So I will watching things, not in the theater, but probably will be doing only very short reviews on Letterboxd if I find the energy.
Louis: I hope you'll be in the best of health for the future. Get well soon.
Robert: I’ll admit the sketches definitely aren’t my favorite, at least now. I’m more so happy that Anthony and Ian are back together.
Louis: Get well soon!
Louis: Whatever your facing, I hope feel better soon and your recovery goes smoothly.
For what it's worth, sometime in the next few months I too will be going under the knife. It's nothing life threatening, but...I'll just say my future children will be adopted, and leave it at that.
Louis: Feel better, man.
A: I am glad they're back together for management reasons, and Ian clearly got a lot of old enthusiasm back. But I do miss the improv stuff on the main channel like Let's Do This and Idiots Present. (Watch the scam episode of Let's Do This, I was practically in tears laughing.)
Hope You feel better, Louis!
Feel better soon, Louis.
Mitchell: I'd like to send you some songs that may be out of your wheelhouse. How do you feel about acoustic guitar/piano-based singer-songwriters?
Robert: I recall being vaguely aware of their stuff back in the day, though around that time I was more into channels like Ryan Higa and Jacksfilms (neither of whom I've thought about in ages). The only video of theirs I have a specific memory of watching is, of all things, Teleporting Fat Guy. I kind of wrote them off as puerile back in the day, which was probably hypocritical considering what I was watching wasn't exactly sophisticated either. Their newer stuff sounds fun, though, I'll have to check them out.
Does anyone else here follow any film/art analysis channels on YouTube? That's probably the type of channel I watch the most often these days.
Louis: i hope you feel better soon, my friend. Wishing you a safe, speedy recovery
Tony: By all means. Also, on the note of atypical music choices...I do really like "Silver Joy" by Damien Jurado. And I'm sure most everyone here could guess where I first heard it.
For film analysis channels....Nerdstalgic and Pillar of Garbage come to my mind, but I'm sure there's better ones I just don't know the names of. The latter also deals a lot more with film commentary and social media reactions than the film itself, per say. See "The critical drinker lied to you about Glass Onion" to know what I mean.
Louis: Wishing you a full, safe recovery.
Tony: Their older stuff has aged like milk (if it was any good to begin with), but current-era Smosh has an entire building of creatives working on it as opposed to two dumb teenagers with a camcorder.
Get well soon Louis.
Louis: Lots of love to you, hope you feel better soon.
Luke, what did you think of Wrestlemania
Incidentally, I finally caught up with Poor Things which I loved.
Stone-5
Ruffalo-5
Dafoe-5
Youssef-4.5
Hunter-4
Abbott-4.5
Qualley-3.5
Carmichael-3.5
Louis: Wishing you a full and safe recovery man, thank you for letting us know.
Get well soon, Louis. I hope you're doing better now.
Louis: Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Thank you all, it is much appreciated.
Get well Louis!
Get well, soon, Louis!
Louis: Get well soon!
Louis: Thoughts on the Joker 2 trailer.
Louis: Get well soon!
I PRAY that there won’t be a big twist where it’s revealed that Harley was in Arthur’s head the entire time.
Joker 2 looks awful, don't care, won't see it. Lipstick on mirror shot is cool.
Luke: I can say right now that I have doubts.
Gaga as Harley I don't mind...matter of fact, it seems to be solid casting at face value. I have questions, though, about how the film will portray her relationship with the Joker. Part of Harley's appeal, I think, is that in many iterations she frees herself from that toxic relationship, heals from it, forms her own identity seperate from her abuser, and kind of becomes a hero...kind of. The point is that's a character arc many women can specifically relate to, and from the trailer it seems the movie is portraying her relationship with the Joker as mutually positive. Could they be hiding something from us? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
And yes....I know I was the "Joker" apologist way back when, but I've since garnered a much more criticial look at the film. My current stance is that it's a largely surface level movie that plays on being bold and shocking, but is merely adopting scenery from previous work. And I see no reason to think this film will be different.
What do fans of the 1984 film make of this news? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amadeus-series-paul-bettany-will-sharpe-mozart-1235869760/
Tony: Curious to see what they'll do differently with the material. Bettany playing Salieri sounds fascinating; haven't seen The White Lotus, so can't speak on Sharpe's casting.
John, Ruthiehenshallfan99, 8000's, & Razor:
Thank you.
Luke:
Looks like more of the same but with songs and Gaga. But I will say, on that point, Lawrence Sher is earning his paycheck once again.
Louis: What did you think of the trailer for MaXXXine.
Louis: What'd you think of the Amadeus news?
Jonathan:
I mean I liked everything about the trailer from Goth (of course) to the new cast (which is quite impressive) to the 80's De Palma/Friedkin visual style, I'm just hoping West ups his screenwriting here, as X was fun but less than it thought it was, and Pearl was a hallow film around a great performance.
Tony:
Not interested. I like Bettany, Sharpe was good in the White Lotus, though not in a Mozart type role at all so playing Wolfgang would be a test for him, that maybe he could meet it, but...the original is the greatest film of all time in my book, and not even that film was able to successfully expand the material from its original theatrical run-time, so what is there to do except go down and be bloated?
Louis: Which name would you give for that hypothetical Kurosawa thriller set in Hokkaido with Mifune and Yamazaki as detectives and Nakadai as the villain?
Also, cast for that Kurosawa version of The Tempest.
Louis, your 5 favorite scenes from Children of Paradise?
8000's:
I mean sure, Kurosawa + crime was greatness every time.
Prospero: Toshiro Mifune
Ariel: Kyoko Kagawa
Caliban: Tsutomu Yamazaki
Stephano: Minoru Chiaki
Gonzalo: Takashi Shimura
Miranda: Reiko Dan
Antonio: Tatsuya Nakadai
Anonymous:
1. Adlibbing
2. Ending
3. Thief Reenactment
4. The Murder
5. The Bar
Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pdpU2HT-Jko
Tahmeed: Have you seen Amar Singh Chamkila?
John: Not yet, but I'll try to make time for it later this month.
Anonymous:
An example of a good scene, many of those still existed in season 4 even as the overall train crashed, and I think this is a good example of how really it fell apart. As Barry here is completely different from the later episodes as he's finally seemed to have any awareness of himself in a way and you see a growing conflict with Hank who too is attempting to become genuinely more dominant and willing to go further criminally. Of course that all fell apart to nothing.
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