Monday 29 April 2024

Alternate Best Actor 1998: Hugo Weaving in The Interview

Hugo Weaving did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Edward Rodney Fleming in The Interview. 

The Interview follows the police trying to get a confession out of a suspected murderer...and rather tired police station politics that undermine the investigation.

Hugo Weaving is an actor who if you only ever watch Hollywood productions one would think he could only play a certain constricted villain type, where if you go to see his home Australian work you immediately have a greater variety of roles and chances for him to express his range as a performer. One such role can be found here in the role in The Interview, despite the fact that he's playing a suspected murderer, the part of Fleming isn't as a cackling villain. Rather his character is portrayed rather empathetically in the early scenes of the film whereas the police are presented in turn as rather cruel and abusive as we see them accost Fleming in his home, arresting him with guns drawn to his face, without explanation given and causing the man to wet himself in fear. Weaving delivers what can best be described as a visceral vulnerability, in that there is no ego or vanity in the depiction of this man, rather Weaving presents Fleming in this scene very much as the victim. He's nearly petrified in fear in his physical manner, he speaks as though he's just eeking out the smallest attempts at protesting his innocence, he is wavering in the states of confusion over what is going on with him and he's minimalized in his embarrassment over his state of needing replacement clothes. Weaving shows a man who seemingly could just simply be a man in a state of distress, which only begins as the "interview, more so interrogation begins. Weaving's performance again brings this sympathetic flair of what is a lost man in many ways, as he speaks with this real anxiety within everything as he speaks of only a lack of knowledge of any charge. When they speak of his daily routine, there is a quiet powerful somber quality to Weaving's performance as the man speaks of going to a local market as a chance to speak to people with this earnest but broken connection given the context in which he is revealing this pain. Something that Weaving cultivates in his performance as the police bring up a driving incident when he was young, with Weaving being rather moving in creating the sense of potent disbelief in Fleming as his eyes are that of a lost man unable to quite comprehend what is going on. 

After meeting with a lawyer finally, who tells him to say nothing until the police are required legally to release him, the police offer Fleming food and more so attention and suddenly we see a shift in the character. A shift that may happen too fast script wise, however performance wise Weaving is great in this shift, because he doesn't suddenly turn on the Weaving as a villain approach, something he certainly could do, rather he presents this connection to the attention granted to him. Weaving begins as Fleming begins to recount the alleged crime with a keen interest and his delivery is that of a man who is very much relishing the opportunity for storytelling. Weaving accentuates words and moments, with this understated kind of glee and his eyes are looking at the men with this sort of reaction to a kind of fascination. Weaving presents a man so much enjoying the way he is now the center of the minds of these men, and is suddenly a man of importance, even though the importance is attached to murder. The murder itself Weaving delivers as just the details of the event, no more, no less. Rather Weaving very much is the man playing for his audience, and in turn Weaving is quite captivating as Fleming becomes very much a showman for both the police and the audience. However the film then turns again to be about our central boring inspector and his interrogation methods, where the next time someone asks Fleming about something, he becomes again the fearful man. A difference however is Weaving let's see more performance due to the on a dime switch between the styles of the man as he becomes suddenly very articulate in his denials and his inability to understand why he is being persecuted for his innocence. Leading to sort of the summary moment of the character revealing his true nature in his scene as he leaves the police station, after his interview is ruled as inadmissible, where he walks and a diabolical smile finds itself onto Weaving face. Perhaps an indicator of what Hollywood will see him as for much of his career there, but regardless still here is an effective moment of his performance. A performance that is greater than his film, which really is only compelling when Weaving is onscreen. That's despite the part being very much written to whatever is needed per the plot point of the less interesting aspects of the film about the police officers, rather than what should've been the meat of the piece, the actual interrogation. Regardless, Weaving carries his weight and more, by delivering a captivating and chilling performance, even as he can't quite hold the whole thing up on his own. 

113 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Mullan
2. Hurt
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Martin.

Jonathan Williams said...

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the visual effects from Independence Day and 2012.

Matt Mustin said...

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

Lucas Saavedra said...
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Tony Kim said...

Louis: If you've read The Merchant of Venice, how do you feel about a younger Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Portia? She has said she auditioned for the role in a Broadway production the same week she was cast in Seinfeld.

8000S said...

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

RatedRStar said...

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Weaving
5. Lillard

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Hurt
2. Lillard (fuck it, NGNG)
3. Han
4. Mullan
5. Weaving

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Martin - 3(Fine with a capital F, in that there's nothing wrong in terms of playing per scene so to speak, he hits his marks emotionally and otherwise that he's convincing in the role, but he's not terribly charismatic in terms of making you care whatsoever about this cop or feel that you are within his own internalized mental space in this situation. He's extremely distant and feels like a cop character you'd have for one scene rather than a lead so to speak. He does what he needs to but doesn't offer much more than that.)

Jonathan Williams:

For Independence Day the combination between miniatures, CGI and real footage is just incredible work in terms of creating the immense scale of an Alien invasion that is convincing to this day because of that combo. It knows when what effect to use and creates immersive work that also just has a certain wow factor to it but also a certain weight. There had been alien invasion movies before but this one basically said, okay here is the true next generation and offered really the next gen of VFX in some ways, even if it had conflicting results.

Speaking of, 2012 is where Emmerich lost what appeal he had (which I would say on the whole was little) because of the shift to almost entirely CGI. Where his earlier films had a balance this one just mainly all CGI for everything severely diminishing the weight and impact of the destruction. It was *too* much to be believed so it just ends up being a whole lot of "stuff" as it throws everything into it and in turn ends up being so much less because of it. Is the CGI bad, no not really, but it also isn't convincing and worse feels weightless because of its overuse.

Tony:

I mean sure, I think Michael Keaton's performance in Much Ado proves that an unexpected actor with Shakespeare can offer something unique and I could see her in that.

Mitchell Murray said...

Yeah...I've always liked Weaving, and he's certainly had his moments in more mainstream Hollywood productions. Still, I do agree he's largely typecast or at least regarded as a villain type - mostly because of his appearance and that remarkable voice. So whenever he does have a chance to do something different ("Hacksaw Ridge" comes to mind), I do appreciate it.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, in terms of film viewings, I have one new and one old.

I recently checked out "Iron Claw" finally, which I found to be an effective dramatization of it's story. The pacing could've been tighter, particularly in the second half, but the performances are compelling throughout, and Efron's work feels like a true utilisation of his talent.

I also saw "Midnight Cowboy" tonight. Truthfully, I didn't see 100% of it as I missed the intro/was doing other things, but I saw 90% of it. Either way, I was impressed by the subject matter being covered, given the era, and the complex nature of it's leading characters. To that point, Voight and Hoffman take a lot of risks in their performances, and they paid off for me because I thought they were both great.

Matt Mustin said...

I think the Matrix did Weaving no favors, as brilliant as he is in it. Also, I caught up finally with All of Us Strangers, which I thought was beautiful.

Scott-5
Mescal-5
Bell-5
Foy-5

Anonymous said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the direction, screenplay and score of Chaplin

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis and everyone: If it hasn't been offered before, thoughts on the Khan reveal scene from "Star Trek Into Darkness"?

My critiques are relatively simple. Firstly, I wished I could love Cumberbatch's performance, but I only like it. He has the enigmatic presence and resonant voice, no question, yet has a few too many indulgent or hammy moments for my taste. And in the scene specifically, I do kind of see him acting more than I should. The largely issue, however, is that JJ would've been better off creating a new villain, or at least taken inspiration from the original Khan, rather than revamping him outright (same goes for most of his decisions, tbh). I could buy John Harrison as the character here, but the call back feels like a cheat.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

It's a terrible reveal, much like the also bad Blofeld one in Spectre, where the filmmakers felt there was some cheat code they could use to make a villain impactful merely by a name reveal, which is nonsense. A great villain is made by what they do and their impact within the story. Where in this case they wanted importance through name, rather just develop their own villain with his own impact, but speaks to Abrams whole faulty thinking of his "mystery box" storytelling where reveal equals compelling...it doesn't.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, thoughts on these Siskel & Ebert reviews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGmogllGStg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NS4JXjQfw

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Gonna post both sets of my predictions here:

1. Hoskins
2. Khan
3. de Oliveira
4. Lee
5. Gullette

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Weaving
5. Lillard

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zlvAY5ZsKvw

Tony Kim said...

A and Jonathan: Since you two are relatively new here, I'd like to get to know you a little better. What are some of your all-time favourite films?

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on The Great Piggy Bank Robbery, Porky in Wonderland, and The Big Snooze.

Jonathan Williams said...

Tony:
The Lord of the Rings trilogy
The Godfather I And II
The Shawshank Redemption
Schindler’s List
Rashomon
Goodfellas
The Dark Knight
There Will Be Blood
Lawrence Of Arabia
Citizen Kane

It was more difficult than I thought it would be.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

Perfectionist said...
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Perfectionist said...

Just wanted to bring this up, I feel that Javier Bardem's turn in No Country For Old Men is kinda underrated on this blog(weird considering he won an actual Oscar for it too, they got it completely right). Like not enough people here have him on their ballot for that year.

I rewatched that movie in a long time, and man, he is totally my win for that year. Chigurh is definitely more layered than what my initial memory of that character was and Bardem is absolutely magnetic in the role. Between the trio villainous Oscar wins of late 2000s, he might just be my second favorite after Ledger.

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: I'm not expecting him to climb up 5 places but I would love it if he made the top 3.

Shaggy Rogers said...

1.Hoskins
2.Oliveira
3.Khan
4.Lee
5.Gullette

1.Hurt
2.Mullan
3.Han
4.Lillard
5.Weaving

A said...

Tony:

Chronological order:

The Passion of Joan of Arc
It Happened One Night
A Streetcar Named Desire
High and Low
Apocalypse Now
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Dark Knight
Moonlight
Silence

Cutting this down to ten was painful. I’ll just go with movies I’ve watched more than twice.

Perfectionist said...

Luke: that would be cool. I'd like it if that happens.

Perfectionist said...

Luke: Is he your win too for that year?

Luke Higham said...
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Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: Probably. Either him, Foster or Dalton for me.

J96 said...

Louis, your Dreamworks Rankings?

Also, everyone, early thoughts on “Mufasa”?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Chaplin's direction is what you can frequently say about Attenborough's direction, which is both praise and criticism, which is that it is perfectly respectable. His work doesn't infuse some sort of additional life to Chaplin, though it provides enough in terms of basic filmmaking craftsmanship to be relevant. And that craftsmanship provides aesthetic, it provides performance, it provides a general convincing tone of period, but where it limits is providing more in terms of making it beyond a biopic of a man, and something more. In his recreations and occasional sort of stylistic attempts to do something Chaplinesque are more fine than amazing. You are convinced by the recreations but never does the film convince you that this is a film that gives life to Chaplin beyond a certain respectable admiration.

The screenplay is *fine* particularly as *then this happens* biopics go, where it tries to thread itself via his wives, his socialist leanings, his mother's mental illness and of course his career. The punctuation though just aren't that sharp, if sort of fine in that it gets the progression of the character well enough, albeit not as something beyond a standard biopic. Do you truly feel as though you know Chaplin in and out. Not exactly, you rather just kind of feel you know him through it in a very generalized way. Something that honestly is similar in structure to Gandhi, however there is enough in Gandhi's life just depicting the events as they unfold to carry it, whereas with Chaplin it needs a bit more than what is offered here. It's not a bad screenplay, it gets the job done, but it also doesn't go beyond a basic expectation in any respect.

Louis Morgan said...

The score is a beautiful score with the main theme being one of Barry's great themes with just the kind of surprising yet potent work that is just this weird yet captivating piece that feels as though it is so jam packed with pathos yet this sort of hopeful happiness that naturally compliments and even segues so beautifully into Chaplin's own Smile. As the work itself is Barry being Barry, but with shading of Chaplin's own style, and the combination is quite captivating because it is that curious combination between happiness and pathos.

Tony:

The Outbreak review shows that while the pair could really fashion some insightful criticism sometimes it can be pretty silly, though this too is part of their appeal. As is the case in the Outbreak review, where I would say not all of Siskel's points aren't relevant, the love story, the action climax, are things you could say are more legitimate criticism, however his fixation on how Hoffman looks in the medical suit is pretty silly with Ebert rightfully calling him out on it. Where Ebert on the other hand is fully rational in his defense, and is right not to let Siskel off the hook on, again you can criticize Outbreak, but the focus on the suit is pretty ludicrous. But this was part of their appeal as sometimes their disagreements could be fundamental to aspects of film, sometimes it could be over something as seemingly minor as this.

Louis Morgan said...

Lambada is a hilarious review with Siskel admitting that it is a guilty pleasure and setting it up to set up Ebert for the attack, who wonderfully lays into it including the "you should be embarrassed" then attacking every bit of the ridiculousness of what the film sounds like as Ebert trashes it so beautifully.

Anonymous:

The scene that could be nicknamed as rock-bottom and is a scene closer to Raging Bull than any other Scorsese film where it goes with raw intensity of the fight both physically and verbally throughout the scene, and just the intensity of the mess of Jordan as he goes from wife beating to child endangerment in his state of being complete mess and really just human slime.

8000's:

The Great Pig Robbery is an all-timer in the sheer speed of it all in bringing us into Duck Twacy world, as we follow the plot to really one hilarious gag after another, particularly that of the villains who are all so inventive, and especially appreciated the painted stills of them. And I've always loved that Daffy just simply kills most of them so brutally to which we get all falling out. Favorite gag otherwise being the "rub yah out see" to that's impossi...ble.

I think I've seen the other two but not in some time to have a clear memory of them.

J96:

1. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish
2. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
3. The Prince of Egypt
4. Kung Fu Panda
5. How To Train Your Dragon
6. Chicken Run
7. Kung Fu Panda 2
8. How to Train Your Dragon 2
9. Kung Fu Panda 3
10. Antz
11. Shrek
12. Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron
13. How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
14. Shark Tale

J96 said...

Nice List! My top 10 is about the same. Prince of Egypt is CRIMINALLY underrated. Being from the 90s and having my childhood in the early 2000’s, I also liked Spirit and Road to El Dorado. Though the latter didn’t do so well critically.

How do you rank Don Bluth’s films? My guess is that 1 and 2 will be Secret of Nimh and Land Before Time.

I predict:

Secret of Nimh
Land Before Time
All Dogs go to Heaven
An American Tale
Anastasia
The Pebble and the Penguin
Rock a Doodle
Titan AE (LOVED this as a kid!!!!)
Thumbalina
A Troll in Central Park

I also wonder what might have come of his Beauty and the Beast Adaptation had it been completed.

Tony Kim said...

A and Jonathan: Who are some of your favourite actors and actresses currently working?

Tony Kim said...

Louis: How much familiarity do you have with the MGM Tex Avery cartoons? I'm thinking of the ones featuring Droopy and the Wolf in particular.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

I mean probably a bit, but I definitely haven't seen any of those since I was a kid.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

1. The Secret of NIMH
2. The Land Before Time
3. Anastasia
4. Rock-a-Doodle
5. Thumbelina

I have seen large chunks of all his other films but those are the only ones I can confidently say I've seen from beginning to end....or at least have the full memory of having done so.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Where would Puss in Boots rank amongst your favorite animated films of all time?

J96 said...

Nice! So Louis, how do you rank Pixar?

Robert MacFarlane said...

For the record, I just rewatched Shrek 2, and I think you'd actually like that one, Louis. Yes, there are the anachronistic pop culture references. But it has much improved plot, a compelling conflict, and an excellent villain and voice performance from Jennifer Saunders. Not to mention Puss in Boots' first appearance. Banderas clearly enjoyed the self-parody. Also, some REALLY strong needle drops compared to the first film.

The other sequels are bad, though. The third one is frustrating because the villain could have compelling, but they fumble the bag by the end with an anticlimactic finale. The fourth retreads character beats and fails to earn any of the emotional pathos it tries for at the end.

I never saw the first Puss in Boots all the way through, but it seemed mid. Which, when looking at the trajectory of the franchise, just makes The Last Wish all the more of miracle film. It's like everyone got together and decided "Okay, we need to shoot for the fucking moon for once." If they do make Shrek 5, they have a HIGH bar to clear now. They can't rely on just Eddie Murphy ad libs and fart jokes. Now they have to cook.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Thoughts on the score for Challengers? I think it’s safe to say that Reynor & Ross have once again cooked.

Jonathan Williams said...

Tony:
Joaquin Phoenix
Tom Hardy
Gary Oldman
Willem Dafoe
Ryan Gosling

Emma Stone
Jessie Buckley
Isabelle Huppert
Carey Mulligan
Anya Taylor-Joy

A said...

Tony:

Actors:

Timothée Chalamet (liking his current trajectory)
Willem Dafoe
Ryan Gosling
Robert Pattinson
Joaquin Phoenix

Actresses:

Jessie Buckley
Mia Goth
Florence Pugh
Emma Stone
Tilda Swinton

J96 said...

I predict WALL-E will be number 1 and Cars 2 will be at the bottom. I expect A Bug’s Life to be low, thought that is a personal childhood favorite.

Anonymous said...

J96 you can find his Pixar ranking under the second alternate supporting actor 2009 results.

J96 said...

Louis, how do you rank Disney’s live action films. Not the re-makes but the originals, like Mary Poppins (1964) and 20K Leagues (1954)?

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Have you seen any of these animated shorts?

Steamboat Willie
The Band Concert
Der Fuehrer's Face
A Corny Concerto


Mitchell Murray said...

Robert: Shrek 2 is an improvement on the first film is every meaningful way. Better structure, greater scope of animation, stronger humour, even better use of music (sorry "Smash Mouth" - I still like All Star as much as the next guy).

And I wholly agree it's the height of the four movies.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell and Robert: Couldn't agree more. Also, it's easily the best use of Donkey (stallion), Puss in Boots has a memorable debut and love the Cops parody.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: As you've said you're a fan of the Kinks and the Byrds, your top 5 songs from each?

Marcus said...

Louis: Your favorite performances by cats and dogs in films?

J96 said...

Louis, your favorite “Lead” performances with limited, less-than-average screen time?

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Another Day in Paradise, which at the moment I consider a 98 film but it might be 99, I'm not sure. Either way, James Woods is fantastic.

Woods-4.5
Kartheiser-3.5
Griffith-3.5
Wagner-3.5

Luke Higham said...

Matt: I think it's 98. The date and location give me reason to believe that it was likely on a qualifying run for the oscars that year.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: That's what I'm thinking too. OPTIMISTIC thinking on the part of the studio to think it would be an Oscar player, but maybe they thought they could sneak Woods in.

Bryan L. said...

1. Lee
2. Hoskins
3. Khan
4. de Oliviera
5. Gullette

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

Lucas Saavedra said...

1. Hoskins
2. Lee
3. De Oliveira
4. Khan
5. Gullette

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Lillard
5. Weaving

BRAZINTERMA said...

5º Hugo Weaving
4º Matthew Lillard
3º Peter Mullan
2º Han Suk-kyu
1º John Hurt

5º Sean Gullette
4º Shah Rukh Khan
3º Christopher Lee
2º Bob Hoskins
1º Vinícius de Oliveira

A said...

1. Hoskins
2. Lee
3. Khan
4. De Oliveira
5. Gullette

1. Hurt
2. Mullan
3. Han
4. Weaving
5. Lillard

RatedRStar said...

Another Day in Paradise was also part of Gene Siskels final show. I liked his description of Woods as the engine of the movies. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to sneak in Woods at Oscar time as he snuck in for Salvador and wasn't really a lock for Ghosts of Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

Luke, what are your top 5 predictions for all 4 acting categories.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
In no particular order:
Hurt
Mullan
Hoskins
Nolte
Han

Montenegro
Blanchett
Bouchez (The Dreamlife Of Angels)
Shim (Christmas In August)
Potente (Run Lola Run)

Koteas
Caviezel
Penn
Thornton
Nolte

Ricci (Buffalo '66)
Linney
Huston (Ever After)
Griffiths
Spacek

Perfectionist said...

I am predicting upgrades for all Bridges, McKellen and Norton to 5. And Hanks to a 4.5 as well.

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: As Perfectionist mentioned, is there a possibility of either Norton, Bridges or McKellen getting an upgrade.

Tony Kim said...

Jonathan and A: Who are your favourite directors working today?

Tony Kim said...

Luke: It's likely that Louis will consider Ricci lead and not supporting, though she's borderline.

For anyone else who's seen Buffalo '66, what ratings would you predict for Gallo and Gazzara? It's possible he'll end up reviewing the former and saving the latter.

Jonathan Williams said...

Scorsese
PTA
Tarantino
Nolan
Spielberg

Luke Higham said...

Tony: Fine by me, gives Huston a chance of winning.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tony: 4.5 for Gallo and 3.5/4 for Gazzara.

A said...

Tony:

Paul Thomas Anderson
Bong Joon-ho
Robert Eggers
Christopher Nolan
Martin Scorsese

RatedRStar said...

I forgot about Run Lola Run, that is a film that is quintessentially 90s lol.

Marcus said...

Luke: Do you think Nolte will be reevaluated that much for Affliction?

Luke Higham said...

Marcus: Potentially.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the production design of The Bad Sleep Well and High and Low.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

Well here's pre-90's:

1. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
2. Darby O'Gill and the Little People
3. Dr. Syn, Alias Scarecrow
4. Mary Poppins
5. Something Wicked This Way Comes
6. Never Cry Wolf
7. Tron
8. The Proud Rebel
9. Johnny Tremain
10. Treasure Island
11. The Three Lives of Thomasina
12. The Misadventures of Merlin Jones
13. The Monkey's Uncle
14. The Parent Trap
15. Dragonslayer
16. Swiss Family Robinson
17. The Absent-Minded Professor
18. Blackbeard's Ghost
19. The Black Hole
20. The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes
21. Popeye

Robert:

I shall certainly check it out when I get back to 04.

Tony:

Steamboat Willie as most of the cartoons of the era is obviously rough around the edges with the less than stellar sound at times, the repeated animations and limited animations and the like, however that is part of the appeal to a certain degree. And what it then is just a series of more random gags with a semi-basic theme than a real story. Where you get that very early strangeness that is weirdly captivating such as the way "Mickey" and "Minnie" kind of torture the goat for example. However enjoyable as an artifact piece, though I would say a little of the extremely old shorts go a long way.

I might've seen the band concert but don't recall.

Louis Morgan said...

Der Fuehrer's Face is kind of what I refer to as past films can be a time capsule of sorts, where this is most certainly that, and while it contains materials we certainly wouldn't include in most films today, let alone in a children's cartoon, however it offers a particular insight into the time, in this case specific propaganda. Which in this case depicts the "German" experience, with potentially problematically catchy songs, and rather captivating imagery depicting the German war complex as a 1984 style nightmare. Though also including the mockery of the groups, where most to this day probably still wouldn't blink twice for the less than flattery depiction of the German figures, as opposed to the Japanese player representing Tojo (though a man worthy of mockery just not race based mockery), however the difference is that negative image extends far beyond just this specific time frame and speaks to unpleasant racist norms of the time. Not a short I would show to children, or to your average person without proper context, yet even as such it does offer fundamental insight into the period of time.

A Corny Concerto I mostly remember for the dicky gag in the opening and the ugly duckling depiction. Regardless, I recall a decent microsized version of Fantasia but with Warner Bros. styling, and kind of interesting as just in general a direct parody by Warner of Disney's attempted more high brown effort.

J96:

Peter Finch - Network
Peter Lorre - M
James Mason - Odd Man Out
Gene Wilder - Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
William Holden - Stalag 17

Marcus:

Asta - The Thin Man
Flicke - Umberto D.
Messi - Anatomy of a Fall
Brandy - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Nellie - Paterson
Seven Bluehairs - Pet Sematary
Jed - The Thing
Terry - The Wizard of Oz

Tony:

The Kinks:

1. "Waterloo" Sunset"
2. "Sunny Afternoon"
3. "Lola"
4. "The Village Green Preservation Society"
5. "Days"

The Byrds:

1. "Mr. Tambourine Man"
2. "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere"
3. "Mr. Spaceman"
4. "Turn! Turn! Turn!"
5. "I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better"

Louis Morgan said...

Regarding the Fall Guy. Gosling and Blunt are charming (though their beats early on are scripted in an extremely repetitive and drawn out fashion), Duke offers nice support, the villains...are kind of dull, but the action is engaging. Overall nothing special, but it was fun.

Gosling - 4
Blunt - 3.5
Taylor-Johnson - 2
Duke - 3.5
Waddingham - 2
Palmer - 2
Hsu - 2.5

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the casts of Love Lies Bleeding and The Fall Guy?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on George Sanders in The Picture Of Dorian Gray.

Marcus said...

Louis: Your 5 favorite songs by Fleetwood Mac and REO Speedwagon, if you've listened to enough of their work.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, is anyone here watching the new "Fallout" series on Amazon?

I had put it off for a while, but I finally watched the first episode today, and it was very solid. I know "New Vegas" and "Fallout 4" rather well, so I liked how much of those games' storylines, lore, imagery and even sound effects appeared in the pilot. I'm also looking forward to seeing the rest of Purnell's and Goggins' performances.

I swear, even under all that makeup, that man is dripping with swagger.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Of the ones you've seen, how would you rank Pixar's short films from best to worst? And on the subject of animated short films, have you seen any from Don Hertzfeldt?

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Another Star Trek related question - if it hasn't been covered already, thoughts on the "two spocks" scene from the 2009 "Star Trek"?

I will simply say it's a wonderful bit of warmth and wry wisdom from the late Nemoy. Quinto I think is fine overall in the newer films, but the presence Nemoy brought to the character is truly singular.

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Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

The Bad Sleep Well fittingly came out the same time as the Apartment in creating a distinct corporate world where the emphasis is on the overwhelming state of it. The difference is that in The Apartment it is a bit more Modern Timeesque in there's something comical of the overwhelming space, in Bad, it is overwhelming, but also cold and cruel. The individuals always seem so small within the very sparse and uncaring surroundings. Though that is stark contrast to the destroyed factory which is memorable particularly because it is in such striking contrast as a more intimate space technically however one that is of a broken world.

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Stewart & O'Brian - (I will admit the more I think about the film the less I like it as I think there are some essential bits here and there missing to make it more of a whole, and again hate the big swing at the end. Regardless I do think the leads are quite effective. Stewart is more so in her wheelhouse than in say Spencer, in terms of portraying the more constantly moody manner, however it works in this instance in creating the state of a character who is just constantly in this kind of nearly desperation, however not exactly ever knowing what direction to take it in. Contrasting that is O'Brian's performance, who I found a bit stiff in the other things I've seen her in, but she's quite in portraying someone who has at first this more overt straightforward intention with this sense of power within her manner. And I'll say their initial lust based chemistry works, though I think the immediacy towards mutual decay is perhaps slightly quickly done however well portrayed by both as this kind of feverish insanity where neither knows exactly what to do but they're doing it. The progression then of the twists and turns are each this descent for each with the bounces back and forth again between hating and loving each other, again I'm not sure really is quite great script wise, but both performers I do think make it work to the extent because of the sort of emotional lack of control that is such a fundamental part of their relationship.)

Malone - (One note character almost but I think she's more than fine in doing the porcelain doll that has the slightly different note at the end.)

Baryshnikov - (Finds an effective balance in terms of making it a comedic performance in terms of the intensity of the mess of her character and just the way she wears every bit of her emotional desperation on her sleeve in a way that works by being intentionally too much. She manages though to find within it the correct sort of balance where she's too much, but in a way that is convincing to create some sympathy within the extreme.)

Harris - (Not the most challenging part for him, but I did like how he played his scenes with Stewart with the sense of history between him and his daughter with a quiet exasperation.)

Gosling - (Not his most challenging role by any means, but unlike The Gray Man, it gives him the chance to show off his comedic skills and be more overtly charming. Which he is, and is always immediately likable. And I will say Gosling has this fascinating ability, despite his level of handsomeness, to completely be convincing as an underdog.)

Blunt - (Think her material early on is too repetitive that it holds her back initially but once she gets to have fun with Gosling, she is indeed fun with him, though when does Gosling not have chemistry with a co-star? But once again he does and they have the right fun in both clearly knowing that neither are playing a very important role for them and going with it as such.)

Louis Morgan said...

Duke - (Brings a matching energy to Gosling well with just bringing the right excited quality that manages to effectively sell the material while keeping it appropriately light.)

Taylor-Johnson - (He's trying a lot of things all at once, and none of them worked for me, and I think in the right hands this could've been a very funny character. Honestly I think he should probably in most occasions stick to his natural accent as trying other accents makes everything he does seem stiffer. So here the whole thing feels like an "attempt" to be this crazy character that is entertaining rather than an actually crazy character who is intense. Worst of all, is when the film says how good of an actor he is, I failed to see the evidence.)

Waddingham - (I have to say she really relies way to much on BIG SMILE to be her acting choice for any given scene, I mean in Ted Lasso I could accept as that character, now it seems to be a fall back that is not a very good one and is ill-fitting for this role, which otherwise was a big not particularly entertaining character.)

Palmer - (Yeah not sure why she was even in the film as such an absurd character just randomly tossed in felt...well random and thought she was way too over the top and not funny in her over the topness.)

Hsu - (I'm sure okay but barely in the film.)

Luke:

Sanders - 3.5(Just him being charmingly amoral, he would do it better before and after, however an enjoyable example of the ilk.)

Tony:

1. Bao
2. Burrow
3. Presto
4. For the Birds
5. Luxo Jr.
6. Lou
7. Day and Night
8. Lifted
9. Partly Cloudy
10. Geri's Game
11. Boundin
12. Tiny Toy
13. Red's Dream

I mean I believe it was hard to not see Rejected if one existed in the early days of the internet. Otherwise I haven't seen much.

Mitchell:

I like the scene though I think it speaks to what almost every other Vulcan or Spock performance gets wrong (Mark Lenard also got it right) in trying to imitate Nimoy, which is at heart his performance is as a comedic deadpan, however just utilized in a way that convincingly conveyed non-emotion and could be dramatic, and every other performance just plays it as non-emotional and always far less dynamic because of it.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Bernard Hill

J96 said...

Nice List! So Louis, how do you rank the performances of these original live action Disney films?

RIP Bernard Hill

Tim said...

R.I.P. Bernard Hill

Luke Higham said...

RIP Bernard Hill

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on those Pixar Shorts.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Thoughts on Rejected and, if you've seen it, Paperman.

Maciej said...

RIP Bernard Hill

J96 said...

Nice Pixar short list.

Do you also have a ranking for films and performances from live action Disney films from the 90’s onward?

Mitchell Murray said...

Rest in peace, Bernard Hill. Didn't actually know he was 79, so good for him.

Also, I've now gotten to episode 4 of the "Fallout" series. It's doing a remarkable job of capturing the tone, themes and lore of the games (Todd Howard being an exec producer is likely a factor there). Goggins and Purnell are also delivering in their roles so far; The former is very much playing his type, but hey...he's good at his type, so no complaints there.

Perfectionist said...

What do you guys think of 1993 supporting actor category?? As time passes by, I only like Tommy Lee Jones' win for The Fugitive more and more. Fiennes' character is such a reprehensible real life evil, that I am not sure if even he would have wanted to win for that. I am aware that's not how acting is rewarded or not rewarded but still. But personally, I am totally fine with what happened in the past. My personal win is Kilmer for Tombstone. I LOVE that performance.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Perfectionist but I hate that logic whenever it comes up. It's ACTING. Also you can see Fiennes win the BAFTA for it, he's not doing a happy dance, but rather just treating it with a sense of gravity fitting for the type of film he was in.

Mitchell Murray said...

Perfectionist: I've seen everybody but Postlethwaite from 93, and out of the four, I easily like Jones the least. It's a totally fine performance from him but nowhere near his best. "No Country For Old Men" I think is a far better showing of his style, and would've been a more deserving supporting win, if he needed one.

I also echo what Louis said in his review of Sam Rockwell for "Three Billboards"; If the academy only rewarded "good guys", Hopkins and Bates wouldn't have their much deserved awards for their iconic work.

Perfectionist said...

That's not my point. While it's acting and might just be quite glorious in it's display, I would have a very hard time calling THAT embodiment of repulsive real life evil a "favorite performance" of mine, if you get what I mean. It's greatness can be admired, and the skill of the actor but I don't see most people going beyond that. Nonetheless, it's not my choice at the very least.

Anonymous said...

Seems pretty silly I will easily call Bruno Ganz as Hitler as one of my favorite performances, because it's the performance not the real person.

Perfectionist said...

Mitchell: I am not sure, if Hopkins and Bates, fit the example that I am trying to give here with Fiennes. Their performances do have some sense of fun. I like those wins. I am not even discrediting the merit of complete evil performances either but just saying that they just won't be my "favorite performances".

Perfectionist said...

Anonymous: That's fair. I see validity there. Even though my opinion differs.

Mitchell Murray said...

Perfectionist: Fair enough. Ganz would fit that description better.

Robert MacFarlane said...

My personal choice for 1993 Supporting Actor is Sam Neill in The Piano (still Louis’s most egregious 3.5). On paper, his character little more than your average patriarchal domestic abuser. But his approach to the role is so intelligent. He plays Alisdair as entitled, but not entirely malicious. He’a clueless. He’s so convinced he’s right that it doesn’t even cross his mind that Ada wouldn’t be into him. So many scenes could have been played with teeth-gnashing or sneering condescension. He plays them with confusion. When he finally does learn of the affair, he’s heartbroken. And when he snaps, he’s terrifying. A great depiction of an abuser that so many actors have never come close to replicating.

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: I saw the pilot. I found the people in the Vaults much more interesting rather than those on the surface. Purnell seems like a capable enough lead that I'm interested in checking out the rest. Louis has said he's seen the show, too.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tony: Update - I'm 5 episodes in, and it's very much working for me. From what I know of the franchise, its remarkably faithful to the game's content and general atmosphere. It's also pulling off the trick of tying in nods/callbacks to certain things in the games, without becoming too obvious or pandering.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, Purnell has joined the long (too long, honestly) list of UK actors I didn't know weren't American.

She is doing a very good job so far, though, in basically emboding the template protaganists of the Fallout series IE the courier or the lone survivor. The nieve underdog that no one expects to survive, yet manages to do so through luck, experience and skill.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

Well here's a top ten:

1. James Mason - 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
2. Jason Robards - Something Wicked This Way Comes
3. Patrick McGoohan - Dr. Syn Alia Scarecrow
4. David Tomlinson - Mary Poppins
5. Jimmy O'Dea - Darby O'Gill and the Little People
6. Albert Sharpe - Darby O'Gill and the Little People
7. Julie Andrews - Mary Poppins
8. Jonathan Pryce - Something Wicked This Way Comes
9. Patrick McGoohan - The Three Lives of Thomasina
10. Olivia de Havilland - The Proud Rebel

Luke:

Previously gave thoughts on Bao, Burrow and I think Lou.

Presto is fun and well animated bit of the frustrated kind of antagonist vs protagonist animated bit well done through the animation idea.

For the Bird is a funny quick bit in just the style of the two birds that really sells the whole thing and memorable for the feathers.

Luxo Jr. is basically a test but one that just works in the simple imagery.

Day and Night really loses something out of 3-d but still is a fun concept in the way it plays around with the animation.

Lifted and Partly Cloudy for me are both fine though I think kind of shows the limits of trying to do too much of a story.

Geri's Game isn't much than playing with an attempted human, that they'd basically reuse in Toy Story three, but okay as kind of a test.

Boundin I find to be pretty intolerable, as hate the song hate the whole routine, just stop.

Tiny Toy and Red's Dream also feel like tests that don't add up to much.

Tony:

Haven't seen Paperman. Rejected is some strange but funny gags, although some are what you'd call extremely random "I AM A BANANA" though that is part of the appeal, with some real intuitiveness in playing around the very specific form that makes seemingly basic designs quite dynamic.