Thursday 17 November 2022

Alternate Best Actor 2016: Adrian Titieni in Graduation

Adrian Titieni did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Romeo Aldea in Graduation.

Graduation follows a doctor as he attempts to ensure his daughter's success on a final exam after she suffers a traumatic attack.

In this character study, we follow Adrian Titieni as the doctor who from the off-set seems your average enough man who supposedly loves his daughter and simply wants what is best for her. Titieni's performance then is an examination of this father seemingly set in his ways as a member of the community, and how everything about what follows challenges that. Titieni carries himself in a slightly tired manner, someone who works hard, but also is set in his ways even when somewhat amorally. We see him warmly interact with his daughter as he gives her a ride to school, just establishing an innate relationship there, however kind of detached, though with history, manner towards his wife as a relationship past its due. And the first challenge to himself comes there as we see Romeo with his mistress, a school teacher, and you see a more lustful man, however, Titieni is as natural in presenting a man ruled as he might be by his sexual desires. Not as some extreme switch, but just a natural other aspect that does define the man. 

His existence is broken quickly again as his daughter is attacked with the attacker having attempted to rape her as well. What follows is the film basically as a series of unfortunate events that does nothing but shake the foundations of whoever it is that Romeo would define himself as. Titieni initially presents quietly but potently the sense of the man's initial concern but also with more once through the event he learns his daughter is no longer a virgin before this event. Titieni presents more so confusion than a complete shatter in the man, effectively presenting a man who quietly takes the information in rather than in a loud explosive way. This alludes towards in a way a man who may be an overly calculating sort, as his reactions are subdued yet feel honest with how subdued they are given how it is that we follow Romeo beyond this point. Although the man doesn't change overtly, Titieni's performance subtly adjusts as his physical manner becomes tighter and his manner less at ease. 

This only is exacerbated when it seems like her injuries may prevent her from taking her pivotal exam to ensure she is able to get into the college of her choice. A situation that Romeo tries to initially argue his way through, where Titieni brings the right calm passion about, however, things quickly spiral out of control when that seems like it might not be enough. And it is interesting for a lead character Titieni is almost always shown in profile, rare is the closeup and in a way, this defines the way we see his character as the plot thickens so to speak. A plot that is less really about all the different aspects he's trying to hold together, his failing marriage, his mistress, his change in perspective regarding his daughter, his attempt to find the truth about the potential rape, his attempt to save her academic future, and the world of corruption he gets involved into to save the former, and more so about all of them together. All together in terms of what it is that Romeo is trying to do to attempt to make it all work at once. 

What we see then in Titieni's performance beyond the initial scenes to the change is a man in constant negotiation, amplified by his positioning in most of the frames off to the side. Although this may seem like a repetitive notion it is actually rather compelling in creating this tangible state of the man as somehow retaining some basic sense of his purpose even as he really is negotiating every aspect of his life away. Titieni presents a man selling himself away with an interesting sort of ease. It isn't as a man who has suddenly lost all his morals but rather as a man who is in a constant just driven state of maintaining his daughter's path no matter what. What is remarkable is around it is we see how strange this caring father act becomes the more he attempts to apply it to every situation, whether that is coming clean to his wife, making a deal based on corruption, trying to avoid investigation by the authorities or even trying to convince his daughter of his misdeeds. Titieni's performance works in illustrating the failures of the very conceit of the man, who fails as loving father by in a way acting always on his always misguided expectation of one. 

122 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the casts of Graduation and The Wonder.

Tim said...

your thoughts on this films Screenplay, Direction and Editing?

Luke Higham said...

Bryan : Your ratings for the cast of The Menu.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfaMLqEh1qM

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Are they any moments from Cumberbatch's performance that would make his top 10.

Bryan L. said...

Luke:

Taylor-Joy - 4
Fiennes - 4.5
Hoult- 3.5
Chau- 3.5
Everyone else - A collective 3

Matthew Montada said...

Bryan: do you consider Fiennes in The Menu to be lead or supporting?

Bryan L. said...

Matthew: Supporting.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I actually would go higher on Hoult, thought he was a riot.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Also, Fiennes is lead in the same way Gene Wilder is lead in Willy Wonka.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: After the lead results, will there be 2016 supporting?

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: I saw The Menu last night and had the EXACT same though about Fiennes. He’s kept at a certain distance but is practically the sole driving force of the plot.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Cynthia Nixon in Amadeus?

Louis Morgan said...

I must concur with Calvin when it comes to She Said, it's sadly okay at best. There's one great scene, some good moments, but as a whole it never convinces you this story is cinematic. Maybe it should've just stayed the article it is based on or maybe it just needed better filmmaking behind it. The script is fairly repetitive, without finding variation or drama within the repetition. Maria Schrader's direction I'm sad to say seems ill-fitting here for a procedural. She makes a lot of dull visual choices, overdoes the score, overuses flashback and includes WAY too much random footage of location. The editing though seems perhaps its greatest flaw, both languid yet also overdone at times.

Mulligan - 3 (Surprisingly very forced at times)
Kazan - 4
Clarkson - 3
Braugher - 3.5
Ehle - 4
Morton - 4.5
Judd - 3
Yeoh - 3
Friedman - 3.5

Mitchell Murray said...

I wasn't going to make this comparison initially, but seeing the tepid response to "She Said" really is quite unfortunate. I say this because watching the trailers for the film honestly gave me "Spotlight" vibes IE a non-flashy depiction of a far reaching scandal, uncovered by everyday people. It's a shame, though, that based on what you guys are saying, it will have nowhere near that movie's acclaim.

On a casting note, though, what does everyone here think of Andre Braugher as an actor? Obviously he's very well known for "Brooklyn Nine-Nine", and from what I've seen of his stint there, I've enjoyed it. I'd also like to bring up him voicing Darkseid from "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse"; Although he doesn't quite have the presence of Michael Ironside from JLU, I do think Braugher does a serviceable job in the part, with the needed cunning and menace.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: Since you've seen Perfect Blue and Princess Mononoke this year, what's your updated top 20 animated films?

Calvin Law said...

The worst thing about Mulligan going Supporting, besides the fact I didn't care much for her work, is that it kills any chance of Morton getting any traction.

Louis: the random footage of location and editing were massive issues with me too. Frankly the film as a whole feels like a documentary would be more befitting.

Anonymous said...

Louis, thoughts on the cast of She Said.

Michael McCarthy said...

Things I’ve seen in the past week:

The Fabelmans- Really enjoyed it, it was an affectionate reflection but not without cinematic magic and emotional nuance. Even the technically very cheesy scenes have a childlike earnestness to them.

The Menu-Is the metaphor heavy handed? A little, but nowhere near as egregious as some other works associated by Adam McKay. Relationships could have been developed more but really dug a lot of individual character moments.

Bones and All-Physically and morally disturbing depiction of addiction and codepency, that is basically a remake of Badlands but they’re all Queer Cannibals. Maybe my favorite film of the year?

Luke Higham said...

Michael: Ratings for the casts.

Michael McCarthy said...

The Fabelmans

LaBelle: 4
Francis-DeFord: 3.5
Williams: 4.5
Dano: 4.5
Hirsch: 4/4.5
Rogen: 4
Karston: 4
Butters: 3.5
Rechner: 3
Fegley: 3.5
Last scene cameo: 3.5/4

The Menu

Same as Bryan but I’d switch Taylor-Joy and Hoult’s ratings and give McTeer and Leguizamo 3.5s

Bones and All

Russell: 4.5/5
Chalamet: 5 (probably this year’s Hill I Will Die On™️)
Rylance: 4.5
Holland: 3
Coffey: 3.5
Stuhlbarg: 4
Sevigny: 3

Robert MacFarlane said...

Hoult was my favorite of The Menu, to be honest. Surprised he's not getting as much praise.

Michael: I gotta ask; I've seen an increasing number of dissenters on Williams in The Fablemans. As someone like myself who can find her a little tiresome, will I like the performance?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Bugnar - 4(Bugnar’s performance offers the right sort of semi-warmth but semi complicated relationship with our central figure. She makes a decent impact in conveying the history between the two. The right kind of a complication that we get as we get through the story listening, creating enough of this sense of slight shame. Just as she does this sense of trust and balances it in a way that feels authentic.)

Dragus - 3.5(Despite being kind of a key character in the film she is kind of an enigma within the scheme of it. We get kind of a vague sense of warmth from her towards her father but not something obviously clear. I think this is purposeful but at the same time not quite substantial. There are some limits but intentional in those limits, It's a good performance but at the same time distance on purpose.)

Pugh - (Pugh giving a strong performance what's new? See you of course she is no stranger to the period peace. She wears dresses similar to some of her Lady Macbeth we're quite well here obviously in a much warmer way than that one course even though we're in a very Stark unforgiving environment and her character is burdened with a thankless task which is emotionally draining. She is excellent in the role in creating a sense of the wavering conviction and doubt within her character well also creating a sense of fascination at the same time. You see the way into his eyes that she kind of has a real understanding for the girl she's observing well also taking in the emotional pain of it she's terrific and kind of accepting the girl at one level while kind of the conveying the certain false sense she has of her. Her performance is what I would say carries the film more than anything through its more than rough patches. By creating this pathway through her own character we get a strong sense of her character’s journey. Pugh is the key in the moments near the end of the film that are so powerful because of her performance. As usual when she really goes for the most intense emotions she absolutely delivers and that is the case here she is fantastic in terms of bringing this extreme emotional intensity while also doing it in a way that creates such a sense of vulnerability at the same time.)

Burke - (Burke gives a decent enough performance. he doesn't make a substantial impact one way or another. He is fine essentially as the hunky reporter really when you break it down. So in a way he could have been worse but maybe there could have been a bit more there as well.)

Cassidy - (A fairly impressive young performance. She manages to find the right balance between being fake and being the genuine article. she isn't exactly one or the other at a given time with Pugh. She finds the right balance and creates these manufactured moments where she seems to be reciting an idea of some spiritual knowledge against moments where she feels genuine at least in terms of the spirit of this young woman. It is an engaging performance to the point I ponder if the story as a whole might have benefited from just streamlining even more so about about her and Pugh)

Tim:

Not sure if this particular film needs such a detailed breakdown.

8000’s:

I mean expectedly charming and endearing. It’s great to see him look at his career with enthusiasm, though I’m a little surprised they didn’t cover Gods and Monsters or The Quiet American. Notable that really with just about every film he went out of his way to praise his co-stars, including the suit actors in George, and every time it felt just his natural joy to share credit and praise.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Nixon - ( Nixon has never been the performance I think of when I think of Amadeus. But I do think she gives a good performance. Playing in her early seems just the right naivete, a falseness if you will that suggests an overly innocent girl who obviously isn't quite that. And we also see that in her first scene with Salieri where you see kind of the basic want for easy treats and money for doing something that's pretty duplicitous. She is effective then in showing kind of the wear of the job as we go from each of her scenes and you see kind of her becoming drained by her position of it all and her reaction shots are quite effective in that regard particularly her final one where you see just kind of her being completely stripped of any of that sense of innocence from when we first saw her.)

Oliver:

I’d rather not do running updates of that ilk at this time.

Anonymous:

Mulligan - (Honestly the more I think about this performance the less I like it. The nature of this film really demanded a strict realism and Mulligan does not deliver on that. She rather seems to choose to take the Mark Ruffalo path. We even have a scene that in a way is evoking the same type of anger that her performance in Promising Young Woman is all about and obviously that's an amazing performance however here it feels utterly forced. That is not the only time where her performance feels forced though. Although they are apparently friends in real life, she and Kazan lack the right type of chemistry. Although maybe this is part of the weak direction there is a lack of sense of kind of building the camaraderie between them through the story as you saw in Redford and Hoffman so brilliantly in all the President's Men. She is just kind of stiff with Kazan and oftentimes quite awkward. When depicting overt emotions she kind of goes straight to 11 and doesn't always feel 100% dialed unfortunately into a moment. It is part of the weakness of the screenplay that the kind of personal connection elements don't feel that well threaded into the main narrative to begin with but at the same time what even Mulligan has to work with she just seems kind of stiff yet also overwrought with a lot of the time.)

Kazan - (Kazan on the other hand I did like. Honestly what I think holds her back is that she's paired with Mulligan here which is something I thought I'd say going into the film. Unlike with Mulligan she does deliver on the right and empathetic sense needed for the character. When just listening she manages to be part of a scene without making the scene about her. She has good moments as kind of the reactionary style lead. She manages to convey the impact of the story and a natural way in a way that feels authentic and fitting for the film's tone. Unfortunately she is limited by Mulligan. Their chemistry just doesn't ever come together.)

Louis Morgan said...

Clarkson - (I did not think Clarkson did anything particularly special here nor did she do anything particularly wrong. It is a pretty rote editor character. There's not really anything else to her that is notable.)

Braugher - (Braugher doesn't have much better in terms of the writing he just makes a little more out of it. Braugher is just a naturally kind of colorful performer so he manages to riff a little something in there. It doesn't amount to much but it amounts to something.)

Morton - (The standout of the film without question. The real promise and power of the story is revealed within her performance. Technically we have other moments of testimony but none of them hit as hard as the scene with Morton and that is because of Morton's performance. Morton naturally can bring a real intensity when she wants to and he or she plays with it and just the right way. She rightfully starts with a great naturalistic sense of somebody trying to keep a secret while also struggling with the implications of what that means. She then slowly reveals and does that excellent job in terms of conveying the struggle of this. She is able to articulate both the intensity of her pain regarding what she experienced with also the intensity of her anger towards what she experienced. She is able to create a real sense of the injustice of the situation while doing it in a way that feels so very honest, real and authentic. A proper one scene wonder in the purest sense of the term.)

Ehle - (Doesn’t make as much of an impact as Morton, but certainly makes her own as well. Part of that I think is just the way she’s introduced, despite wanting to give more humanity to her story, instead kind of makes the transitions to her more awkward than they should be. Really everything about her character probably should’ve been revealed in a scene rather than in multiple scenes that kind of diluted the impact. Having said that, Ehle is very moving nonetheless and delivers the heartbreak of the victim in a different way from Morton. Conveying very much a proper sense of the underlying trauma of it all, while also showing the woman trying to live her better life even within that struggle.)

Yeoh - (Thought she was fine, but just made the least impact of the testimonies.)

Judd - (One would think being the most literally real of all the testimonies, she should be the most powerful, but sadly the way she is implemented is kind of awkwardly handled. I think she’s fine, but it just seems like they didn’t utilize what they theoretically had with her in the most effective of ways.)

Calvin:

Yeah blatant fraud, and also screws over the better performance.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your ratings for Pugh and Cassidy.

Luke Higham said...

I can't see them on Siddiqui's review.

Luke Higham said...

It's a shame about Mulligan. Hopefully Maestro will make her a serious contender next year.

Louis Morgan said...

4.5./4/3(Burke)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thanks.

Mitchell Murray said...

Little side note about Kazan...I thought she looked familiar, and I wasn't surprised to learn she was the "Gal who got rattled" from "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs". She was also in "The Savages", "The Big Sick", "In the Valley of Elah", "Revolutionary Road" - basically several movies I've seen, but just never realized she was in them.

And on top of all this, she's currently married to Paul Dano and they have two children together, so...the more you know.

Calvin Law said...

I also thought the Morton scene was easily the best directed scene in the film - no filler location shots, flashbacks pared down to the essentials with the use of the music cutting into the present being quite effective, and the editing between the two actors being particularly potent. Kinda what, as you say, I think limits Ehle a bit just because of how the film can't quite do her justice despite the performance being good.

Perfectionist said...

Carey Mulligan entering her Jake Gyllenhaal post Nightcrawler phase??? I didn't expect this performance to be on the level of her previous acclaimed work(That's a really high bar tbf) but I didn't expect the reaction to be "whatever/meh".

8000S said...

Mitchell: I'm quite sure Kazan and Dano haven't tied the knot yet.

Oh, and since you're quite interested in American presidents, here's a game where you can play as a presidential candidate.

newcampaigntrail.github.io

RatedRStar said...

Anthony Wong finally winning Best Actor at the Golden Horse Awards yayyy =D, thought I'd just mention that since he was so overdue lol might even request him if I get the chance.

Louis Morgan said...

I LOVED The Menu, hit all the right satirical buttons for me(actually funny, variations on the theme, bothers to tell a good story, has actual characters), and preferred it over Triangle of Sadness actually.

Saving Fiennes and Hoult.

Taylor-joy - 4
Chau - 4
McTeer, Leguizamo, Birney, Light, Adelstein, Brucato - 3.5
The rest - 3

Taylor-Joy and Fiennes are the leads.

Also Adam McKay is Tyler.

Louis Morgan said...

Also must concur with Bryan's point, Alexander Payne would've ruined it.

Bryan L. said...

Funnily enough, Willy Wonka was a film and character that came to mind while I was watching The Menu, so the Fiennes-as-lead argument holds more weight there.

I did like Hoult in the film, though I also I liked Taylor-Joys’ reactions to his character more, plus her main acting showdown was a highlight.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I agree, it is the one scene where I think the promise of the premise was actually fully realized.

Mitchell Murray said...

So on a complete whim, I re-watched "The Edge of Seventeen" after a few years, and quite enjoyed it once again. The deadpan humour thoroughly works, but more importantly, I think the film is an authentic portrayal of the teenage mind, and how it deals with grief, social conflict and self perspective. To that end, it's still the best work of Steinfeld's career IMO, and a true showcase of her talent.

Also, in terms of the performances being reviewed for 2016, I'm even more assured of my request for Harrelson; He's a comedic gem in his witty remarks, but also offers the right undercurrent of warmth and sympathy in his later scenes.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Unless there are major spoilers, thoughts on The Menu cast.

8000S said...

Louis: Regarding the original Psycho, what would have you done regarding the ending? The big twist, then you dissolve cut to Norman in that room?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

There are.

8000's:

You will still need a little bit of an explanation, just far less of one, like say the brief explanation at the end of Rear Window for something comparable instead of the five minute long one.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Peter Billingsley.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Jason David Frank

Robert MacFarlane said...

Jesus Christ, losing Batman and the Green Ranger within a week.

Louis Morgan said...

RIP Jason David Frank, disheartening to hear.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Billingsley - 1.5(His narration is terrible, but really his voice just isn't suited to it in the least. It is very growly and unpleasant. The rest of the time, he just isn't suited as a leading man type to be blunt. He doesn't have enough innate charm as an adult, and his screen presence is a little awkward to put it lightly. He does try, I'll grant that much, but he just is kind off both in terms of the moments of attempting to sell the drama or the timing of the comedy. Hate to say it, would've been better as say a cameo and have an actor with a stronger presence to take on adult Ralphie. Although a greater leading performance would not have saved this film.)

RatedRStar said...

RIP Jason David Frank

Marcus said...

Louis: Discounting any films from this year, your favorite films/TV shows about the First World War?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the scene where Tuco beats his henchman to death in front of Walt & Jesse? I like how the latter two react in horror, as if they didn't fully realize what Tucos' capable of until they're fully in business with him.

Mitchell Murray said...

Rest in peace, Jason David Frank. I echo Robert's comment with his death coming so soon after Conroy's, with both being quite sudden and tragic in different ways.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, question for everyone here; What are some of the most satisfying/deserved "first" oscar nominations of certain performers? To clarify, these are the very first oscar nominations of actors that marked a major upswing in their career, were offered for the ideal role/performance, or were simply a long time coming.

I'll get the ball rolling with one that's both fitting and perhaps not an obvious example - Emma Stone for "Birdman". I've been meaning to watch the film again for a while, but going over her scenes in isolation has made me appreciate her performance all the more. She's achieved greatness since 2014, and I think "Birdman" was the first definite arrival of the "critical darling" Stone. Also, for as famous as her big monologue is (and its well done to be sure), I've always been drawn to the small reactions and inflections she conveyed - both as a recovering addict, and as the daughter of a imperfect yet well meaning dad. Even her dynamic with Norton, while questionable at first blush, is honestly believable in the way they play their scenes. Looking at Stone's character overall, there were simply a lot of areas to fall short in that she skillfully avoided. It's not even the most complex/revered performance to be nominated for supporting actress, but it is a thoroughly good turn that sort of sneaks up on you, and elevates the film in it's own way.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell:

Mahershala Ali in Moonlight
Richard E. Grant in Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Holly Hunter and Albert Brooks in Broadcast News
Rachel McAdams in Spotlight
Michael Keaton in Birdman
Bob Hoskins in Mona Lisa
Toni Collette in The Sixth Sense
Benicio Del Toro in Traffic
Jesse Eisenberg in The Social Network
Isabelle Huppert in Elle
Kristen Stewart in Spencer

Really the main word going through my mind with this would be “vindication”.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Jason David Frank

Razor said...

RIP Jason David Frank.

Calvin Law said...

Mitchell:

Bob Hoskins for Mona Lisa
Riz Ahmed for Sound of Metal
Steven Yeun for Minari
Regina King for If Beale Street Could Talk
Mahershala Ali for Moonlight
Olivia Colman for The Favourite
Lesley Manville for Phantom Thread
Melvyn Douglas for Hud
Emmanuelle Riva for Amour
Isabelle Huppert for Elle
Penelope Cruz for Volver

8000S said...

Louis: Looks like Peter Weir has finally received an Honorary Oscar.

Thoughts?

Tim said...

Mitchell:


Antonio Banderas in Pain and Glory
Michael Keaton in Birdman
Matthew McConaughey in Dallas Buyers Club
Chiwetel Ejiofor in 12 Years a Slave
Gary Oldman in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Ryan Gosling in Half Nelson
Philip Seymour Hoffman in Capote
Kristen Stewart in Spencer
Olivia Colman in The Favorite
Charlotte Rampling in 45 Years
Ciaran Hinds in Belfast
Richard e Grant for Can you ever forgive me?
Christian Bale in The Fighter
Kevin Kline in A Fish called Wanda
Allison Janney for I, Tonya
Toni Collette fir The Sixth Sense

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons in The Power of the Dog.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I think both new he was capable of that for enemies you see that both realize he's a hothead towards everyone and everything. The whole scene coming from No Doze trying to only reaffirm Tuco's status as the boss doing a perfect backfire as he goes to fully psychotic because he's basically a complete paranoid nut that any comment can be taken wrong. My favorite moment is Gonzo stopping Walt, because his reaction isn't "back off let the boss do his thing" but rather a "Hey trust me you don't want to get involved with this".

Marcus:

1. Lawrence of Arabia
2. Paths of Glory
3. All Quiet on the Western Front (1931)
4. La Grande Illusion
5. Gallipoli
6. Blackadder Goes Forth
7. 1917
8. They Shall Not Grow Old
9. Captain Conan
10. The Lost Patrol

Didn't include Russian Revolution films.

8000's:

Well deserved.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: I take it you're a Simpsons fan. Could I get your thoughts on the following episodes?

Life on the Fast Lane
Lisa's Substitue (esp. Dustin Hoffman and Yeardley Smith's performances)
Lisa's Wedding
Bart Sells His Soul (esp. Nancy Cartwright's performance)
Marge Be Not Proud
Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield
The Day the Violence Died
Lisa the Iconoclast (esp. the ending)
The Simpsons Spin-off Showcase

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of To Leslie.

Mitchell Murray said...

So in relation to my previous comments, I finished "Legend of Korra: Book 3" in my re-watching of the series. And while anyone here whose watched the show knows this already, Book 3 is where it really shines. It's just aged like a fine wine for me, in it's balanced pacing, tense narrative, tangible thematic content and excellent fights. Also, as I keep saying, casting the famously intense Henry Rollins as the cold, superficially composed Zaheer was an inspired VA choice. Quite simply, it's a gem of a show chapter and easily on par with the best of TLA.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Life on the Fast Lane - (I have to say I've always found it a bit strange that the Simpsons was such a colossal hit so early because season 1 episodes aren't well animated and honestly aren't funny. The latter quality though is strange because I think it is closer to a drama at times in intention than a comedy. Having said that, as these dramatic episodes go this is a better one because when the show took Marge and Homer's relationships seriously there was something there. That is the case here though, it isn't an episode I go back to because while the drama is decent...it isn't very funny.)

Lisa's Substitute (Another episode that is more drama than comedy, though they are starting to at least include the latter, here well represented by Bart's pandering political career with a hilarious pay off regarding his inability to get out the vote. The drama section though is quite good with both Smith and Hoffman delivering honest but not overwrought work. Delivering on a real idea of Lisa finding some inspiration in life in poignant way. Again one that I don't often return to, but it is good.)

Lisa's Wedding - (Now we enter in the shows that were largely hilarious that could pull heartstrings but only with specific intention. I will say honestly though more effectively despite spending less time on it. Mostly this is just setup as a gag fest for seeing the characters as adults, and seeing the wacky future, like the melting androids. Totally works as such. Also shout out to the amusing opening fair particularly Flanders bashing of Smithers in the opening. But the bit of real emotion regarding Homer's cufflinks as symbolic representation of her connection to their family is genuinely moving and well done.)

Bart Sells His Soul (Largely hilarious episode in the intention of hilarity. Successful as such whether that be the failure of Moe's Applebees, the repeated noting of "piece of paper" and "Little boy's soul", the evil street sweeper who instantly receives comeuppance, or Bart's demonic attempt to steal Ralph's soul. Only on top of that you do get the emotional moment at the end, again not a lot but actually more potent than I think the aforementioned episodes that spent way more time on it. And yes Cartwright's performance is excellent in selling the increased desperation of Bart throughout.)

Louis Morgan said...

Marge Be Not Proud - (Again hilarious moments, the mascots encouraging theft except the steadfast Lee Trevino, "Hell Muddah" tape switch, "cut me a slice" on Bart's marshmallow fail, Homer's "get him mah" and everything involving Lawrence Tierney's perfect straight man performance (even if he was unaware). It also though works wholly in creating the sense of anxiety of getting caught and having to deal with genuine disappointment in a parent. Leading to a genuinely moving moment followed by a perfect comical callback.)

Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield - (Not as perfect implementation of comedy, though Burns v. Homer golf is all gold in that regard. The Marge stuff is straightforward but effectively done in terms of dealing with peer and class pressure, having a moving payoff for sure, just as it honestly shows the idea of getting pulled into class for the sake of it.)

The Day the Violence Died - (The ending really is terrible, I'll start with that, clearly they wrote themselves into a corner so they just went with something random, that is funnyish but you can also sense a certain laziness there. The main plot of Chester Lampwick is a fun comedic procedural (Aided ably by Kirk Douglas of all people), and anything that includes Lionel Hutz moves up a few degrees in comedic quality automatically.)

Lisa the Iconoclast - (I mean the entire plot actually is very well done in terms of the precise unfolding of it, in part because Sutherland brings a real gravitas to the whole thing with his vocal performance. With quite an effective ending that is essentially the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, but effectively done in showing the meaning of the legend despite it being a lie. Although I think more plot centric some good jokes are still there, "I wanna help you George Washington, even your dreams are geeky", The Washington/Sprungfeld fight, Wiggum playing with Sprungfeld's corpse, Lisa's assassination, and of course the legendary introduction of Embiggens to mankind via sloppy historical reenactment.)

The Simpsons Spin-off Showcase - (Intentionally bad in a certain sense but the question is does that joke work each time. Skinner/Wiggum cop show is funny, Moe/Grandpa wears thin, loses all momentum with the variety hour. So not quite, honestly if it is on I watch the first third and then I'm good.)

Luke:

I'll save Maron.

Riseborough - 4(Like the film itself I was fully ready to write off her performance entirely, and I will say that maybe she should take a break from "women on the edge" roles for just a bit. In the first third of the film, I thought she had some honestly kind of terrible moments with some really overcooked portrayals of anger and drunkenness. Having said that once the film comes together so does her performance. What she is going for in the first third finally seems realized and no longer overcooked. She does have intense moments at times but now they feel much more nuanced and earned. There is a greater earned earnestness in her work that creates the sense of guilt, shame and vulnerability rather effectively. She creates an honest balance between the sides of the character and eventually becomes believable, despite not being entirely convincing to me early on in the film.)

Janney - 3(Thought she was also bad until her last scene, where I finally say Janney doing what she usually does, which is deliver something real and authentic. Before that it felt playing a part of the tough biker chick, and it felt really forced to me. Again though when the film gets better she does as well in her final scene finally pulling it back a bit, making it seem less forced, and find some real emotional honesty in her last scene.)

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Glad we might get a Maron review, found him, Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin to be quite great in GLOW.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Albert Brooks is kinda funny in Life on the Fast Lane though. "Let's hope someone runs over her."

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis and everyone: Thoughts on this scene/the voice acting within from the original "Red Dead Redemption" - specifically the opening sequence between John, Jonah and the Marshal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeApJEfgIJg&ab_channel=GTASeriesVideos

Besides the conversation being rather amusing (not to mention straight out of an Eastwood western), I always thought it was a fine intro into the "quid pro quo" dynamic between John and the Marshal. Also, fun little fact; Marshal Johnson is voiced by Anthony de Longis, a highly accomplished stuntman and fight choreographer.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: What about Last Exit to Springfield?

Matt Mustin said...

Disenchanted is pretty bad. None of the charm of the original and it just comes off as soulless. It also looks very cheap, very Disney Channel, which was not the case with the first one.

Adams-2.5(At first, a solid enough but not great reprise of her magnificent original performance, but as the film goes on they write her in a way that she can't make work.)

Dempsey-2(*Much* less of him this time, thankfully. He's still pretty dull just because he's a dull performer. As the fairytale version of his character he actually seems to be having fun, and I kinda liked that, but it's still not much.)

Baldacchino-3.5(Actually quite winning.)

Rudolph-1.5(Bad ham, and makes me appreciate Susan Sarandon more, not that I disliked her at all.)

Brown and Mays-2.5(Mostly annoying sidekicks to Rudolph.)

Menzel-3(She always seems slightly off to me, but she gets to sing this time, and obviously she's great at that.)

Marsden-3(Brief bit of full-on Marsden charm, once again.)

Newman-1.5(SO annoying.)




8000S said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the use of color in Peeping Tom?

It's a rather garish, but at the same time an outstanding use of the Eastmancolor process, and you can see why Scorsese likes it so much.

Razor said...

Louis: What are your general thoughts on Andrea Riseborough and your past roles for her?

Anonymous said...

Luke, who do you think will win the World Cup.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Brazil, would've given Argentina a shout but that opening loss was horrific.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Feel bad for Messi, but hopefully Argentina will bounce back.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Tarantino's comments on Marvel? https://variety.com/2022/film/news/quentin-tarantino-marvel-killed-movie-star-1235439798/

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of See How They Run.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

I'll conceded his vocal performance is the best part of it.

Robert:

I get its placement as the very best of the Simpsons, though I would say that is almost strictly speaking in comedic terms (which are fine terms in my book), as the episode is just one successful gag after another in constant progression, and while the whole plot of Homer as the union leader actually is fully realized in terms of plot execution, along with Lisa's braces being a fully connected and natural b-plot. Again I could almost name every gag but special mention to the screen door at the end of Burns's security system, Homer's curly celebration, Hannibal Lecter dentist's BIG BOOK OF BRITISH smiles torture and of course Burns turning into the Grinch for no particular reason, to name but a few.

8000's:

It is garish but as with most things in film it is "how" it is garish. In this case a purposeful juxtaposition with less vibrant colors to make the reds all the more vibrant. Granting the entire film this quality of murder and blood as the innate state of it.

Razor:

That's a good question as I'm not sure about my exact thoughts, in general I do like Riseborough, even if there may be too much of an "Andrea Riseborough style role" as the woman on some kind of edge. I think she can struggle with weaker directors (Nocturnal Animals, Amsterdam) however typically she gives good performances, though she is one I haven't seen that I would call wholly great, however frequently enough she is very good. And I get why she has her type of role as she brings an innately vulnerable flavor to her works that do work, and she do stylistic riffs effectively between them. Although I would say there is a certain similarity within her work, not in a truly damaging way and again it is also she is often playing very similar roles to begin with. So honestly she's someone I'd like to see branch out to see what more she can do.

Tony:

Well I slightly disagree that Marvel ended the idea of the movie star (which does still exist via DiCaprio and Cruise) as that was already fading in favor of franchise and concepts before the MCU started even. Though he is correct that it is the character not the actor that is the selling point. I don't disagree that they get the most of budgets, but studios also have always funded what sells, even in the 70's dreck disaster movies got a lot of money because they sold. Studios still do make other films including Tarantino's own. Of course Tarantino was quite diplomatic here, look forward to Marvel fans freaking out regardless though and say dismissive things about his work.

Luke:

Ronan - 4(She is fun. Brings a lot of energy to the role but knows how to maneuver it so it does not become too much. I didn't love it beyond that only because her character is so underwritten regardless, and also her energy needed a better balancing act than she gets. She kind of does setups with her work that are not fully realized for multiple reasons. She is fun at the very least though.)

Rockwell - 2.5(Yeah a miscalculated performance as rather than seeming exasperated as the detective he seemed tired as a performer. In turn his work just kind of sits there much of the time, and does properly play off of Ronan in the right way leaving their whole dynamic mixed up.)

Dickinson - 3.5(The best of the supporting players managing to find some moments of energy that managed to sell lines as witty even when they were not.)

Brody - 3(Thought he was enjoyably pompous for as long as he was around for.)

Everyone else - 2.5(I didn't think anyone was terrible, they just again seemed like they were looking for some better lines to sell that they never get. I will say Peral Chanda was well cast as Sheila Sim, but again that casting was kind of wasted on a nothing part.)

Mitchell Murray said...

Thank you to everyone for the responses to my recent questions, and in the spirit of that, I wanted to propose another.

Everyone: What are some lines of dialogue that never fail to make you giddy? This could be from a film, show, game, etc.., and it doesn't matter why it makes you feel that way - it only has to appeal to your fondness/attachment to the property involved.

I'll submit my own from LOK...

"Nice to see you again, twinkle toes"

If you know what I'm referencing, I don't think I need to elaborate further.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell:

"I am the FBI" - Twin Peaks: The Return
"I want my father back, you son of a bitch!" - The Princess Bride
"Fred, is it too late to accept your invitation to dinner?" - Scrooge
"My affections have not changed, but one word from you will silence me forever" - Pride and Prejudice
"Merry Christmas, you wonderful old Building and Loan!" - It's A Wonderful Life

Tim said...

Mitchell: that's a tough one, as i don't generally feel that much connection to quotes, overall scenes would have been easier, but i'll try.


"Always" - Harry Potter

"Sunday is my favorite day again" - Silver Linings Playbook

"to my big brother George, the richest man in town!"

"Oh, what a day! What a lovely day!" - Mad Max Fury Road

"Where's Colonel Mackenzie?" - 1917 and "Welcome to Seb's." - La La Land
(i put these two together as both are really just about pumping me up for what i'll get to see (and hear) right afterwards)

"The next thing that comes out of your mouth better be some real Mark Twain shit, because it will definietly be engraved on your tombstone." - The Devil's Rejects



Most other quotes i could come up with that instantly tie into my love for certain media are actually from really depressing moments, so i don't think "giddy" is actually how those make me feel

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed and Tim: In focusing on films, you guys actually reminded me of another example...

"If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine".

God damn, if Obi wasn't a troll to the very end.

Matt Mustin said...

Mitchell: Some that come to mind

"And that goes for you too!"-It's A Wonderful Life (SO many choices from this movie)

"I figured, what the hell?"-Back to the Future

"This never gets old"-Black Panther

"Not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work, there, Lou"-Fargo

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."-Star Wars

I'm certain there's more.


Louis Morgan said...

Might need some time to digest Bones and All fully (hey waka waka), but I'm definitely going to say I liked it as a reformatting of Badlands with cannibals and easily my favorite Guadagnino film (though that is fairly easy for me. A strange bird to put it lightly but a bird I found rather fascinating. I very much appreciated how it isn't blithe about it, in fact taking time very specifically to show the very human cost of this life in each instance of "feeding". I was particularly impressed by the way it maneuvered its strange tone. It does have fun with the concept, just as it has definite moments of intense horror, just as it does have genuinely moving moments, just as it has genuinely unnerving moments. It manages to create a grotesque yet also beautiful tapestry that is wholly bizarre yet also painfully human.

Saving Chalamet and Rylance.

Russell - 4.5
Holland - 3
Stuhlbarg - 4
Sevigny - 3
Green - 3
Harper - 3

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tim: What are your overall thoughts on The Devil's Rejects? I'm asking, beacuse I've watched House of 1000 Corpses yesterday and I don't feel particularly compelled to further bother with the sequel outside of Sid Haig's performance (bless that man).

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zISB3IsHu_Q

Tim said...

Ytrewq: first of all, that 2000s shocksploitation style is absolutely my thing, which reeeeaaaallllyyy does not apply to everybody.

Other than that, it's mostly really a higher-budgeted version of the same kind of grotesque, violent weirdness you've already seen. If you didn't like House of 1000 Corpses, i normally would not advice to watch this one either.

The thing that i say makes TDR vastly supperior though is that House is nothing more than a more extreme version of a 70s B-movie. It's a fun version of that, but not more.

TDR on the other hand actually has a pretty fascinating story. The entire first half is supposed to set up the three leads as without a doubt the worst human beings ever seen on film. And then the second half is about them being punished by a vengeful policeman; it's not about carthasis for the audience though. In fact, we are supposed to feel empathy for them as they're being tortured.

AND IT GODDAMN WORKS! It manages to actually make us feel with these monsters and want them to escape, without cheap writing forcing them into a nice corner, without compromising what we know about these characters and without depicting William Forsythe as an absolute irredeemable monter.

The fact that that works is actually kind of a miracle.


Yeah, bless Sid Haig, but also Bill Moseley. These really are his movies. Leslie Easterbrook is absolute shit though

Calvin Law said...

So, I saw Armageddon Time (flawed but I did admire the daring and it has a certain effectiveness), Till (which I found very powerful and Deadwyler is fantastic), and Triangle of Sadness (surprisingly a different reaction here as I was okay with the first act, hated everything on the boat, and loved the third act).

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the casts of Armageddon Time, Triangle Of Sadness, & Till?

Anonymous said...

Louis, Thoughts on the cast of Bones and All.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I liked Bones and All, but I think I’m in the minority in outright hating Rylance’s performance. Second year in a row he’s taking my Worst Supporting Actor spot.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is it still a bit early to ask what your 10 most anticipated films of 2023 or should I wait until Dec 1st.

Luke Higham said...

And have you heard Gary Oldman is contemplating retirement soon

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: I can totally see why someone would hate Rylance’s performance in Bones and All. For me it worked really well just because I thought the grotesque vileness of what he was doing was a perfect complement to the off-beat sweetness of Russell and Chalamet’s performances.

Anonymous said...

Louis, thoughts on Andor and cast ranking.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Michael: I found every single choice he made actively harmful and selfish. Worst type of hambone performance you can get. Honest-to-God, I think this is the worst performance I've seen since Luthorberg.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, this is going to be a bit off brand but here it goes.

For those who aren't aware, the main antagonist of Legend of Korra: Book 4 is Kuvira, and she is voiced by Zelda Williams IE daughter of the late Robin.

Aside from liking the character/Zelda's performance, I feel an odd sort of comfort knowing Robin's daughter voiced the role. He probably wouldn't have seen her work in full (he died in August 2014, and Book 4 ran from October-December 2014), but at the same time, I would like believe he would've enjoyed her turn. I also can't imagine Zelda had an easy time dealing with that, since LOK is arguably her most high profile role, yet it came so soon after her father's passing. Still, while I'm not a fan of every Robin film, to see his legacy/name carry on beyond himself - even if it's just through a voice role - is strangely assuring to me.

Louis Morgan said...

I think I might be the grump of the year because I kind of found the Glass Onion a bit tiresome after awhile, despite rather liking Monae's performance.

Craig - 4
Monae - 4.5
Norton - 4
Hahn - 2.5
Odom - 2.5
Henwick - 2.5
Cline - 2
Hudson - 2
Bautista - 3.5
Hawke - (Why?)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Although the scenario is touch melodramatic as written, to say the least, and Smith is just slightly too much, I still think it is more honest than a lot of his later dramatic work.

Anonymous:

Russell - (Russell gives an earnest performance. This is essential as if she went big at all I think it would cause the entire thing to collapse. Her performance though grants a reality to the theoretically ridiculous concept in the right way. She is the proper Guy Pearce to the Robert Carlyle’s that make the rest of the fill. Her performance grants you the right sense of both horror against oneself but also still this sense of Discovery in it as well. She is able to balance the sides well in a way that grants a sense of the way she is as the others are while also creating the right sense of shame and hesitation that makes her a bit different from the rest. Her performance gives the whole film the essential core of reality and even as I talk about it right now I think I might move on to a five because she really does carry the film in a pivotal way. A way that if she was any different really the film would have completely collapsed as she facilitates the other performances very much by being this anchor point.)

Stuhlbarg - (I would say he has an even greater range than we might have thought. He is absolutely convincing as a psychotic cannibal hillbilly. A combination that in itself sounds absolutely ridiculous. His performance though manages to not only make you but leave this character it also makes you properly terrified by him. There is such a worthy quality that he brings as the character describes his specific history and activities that is eerie with the level of comfort that Stuhlbarg brings in his performance. The only thing I wish is that there had been more of him because he is quite striking for the little bit we get him for. Particularly his final moment that is just absolutely terrifying and easily the scariest moment in the film for me.)

Sevigny - (Brief but effective in her bit.)

Holland - (Limited but does leave an impression.)

Green - (Properly creepy but overshadowed by Stuhlbarg.)

Harper - (Nice to see her again, hope Guadagnino gives her a more substantial role eventually since clearly he likes to use her.)

Luke:

Eh, I'll believe it when he does it, hard for me to take it seriously from most actors because they typically backtrack so fast.

Sure in a little bit.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Andor makes every other Star Wars and hey let's say it Disney plus series look like amateurish garbage by comparison. I want to even say the show is perfect by any measure. It does have some slow moments though I think the pacing in general serves for character development and building to its climactic moments so much more effectively than every other Disney Star Wars show. It's one that actually is working off of character rather than of fans cheer moments. It is actually trying to create a real sense of what it would be like to start a rebellion and to deal with the Empire. Using the format to expand on the idea of the universe rather than contract it into recycling the same character and knockoff plot lines. It does it in a way that is really effective Sci-fi technically. There are so many great threads it was playing with and I found it played with them in ways that were rather fascinating and with good dialogue for once. Looking forward to season 2, the first time I’ve said that with any Disney plus show.

Also more than anything Andor proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the VOLUME is terrible.

1. Stellan Skarsgard
2. Denis Gough
3. Andy Serkis
4. Genevieve O’Reilly
5. Diego Luna
6. Kathryn Hunter
7. Kyle Soller
8. Joplin Sibtain
9. Fiona Shaw
10. Ebon Moss-Bachrach
11. Alex Lawther
12. Adria Arjona
13. Faye Marsay
14. Elizabeth Dulau
15. Gary Beadle
16. Stanley Townsend
17. Duncan Pow
18. Ben Miles
19. Sule Rimi
20. Anton Lesser
21. Forest Whitaker
22. Alastair Mackenzie
23. Rupert Vansittart
24. Varada Sethu
25. Alex Ferns
26. James McArdle

But unlike all the other Star Wars shows that had like a couple good performances and a lot of mixed or bad ones, that’s not the case here. I think McArdle for example is more than decent.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on 1-11.

Luke Higham said...

Where would Andor rank in the careers of Skarsgård and Serkis.

Matt Mustin said...

Thoughts on Forest Whitaker on Andor? Cause he was truly terrible in Rogue One.

Razor said...

Louis: Thoughts on Nicholas Britell's score for Andor.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the final scene of L.A. Confidential.

One glaring thing about the last minutes of the film is how Exley is not wearing his glasses. More or less shows that he no longer sees the world in black-and-white, wouldn't you say?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Just my two cents, but the ending to L.A. Confidential is my least favorite scene in the film. I defer to the “let’s just bring them all back” scene from Kiss Kiss Bang Bang as to why.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Skarsgard - (One of his very best performances and it is a little fascinating to see such an intense actor take Star Wars this seriously. He delivers an expected gravitas to the performance and in his earliest episode he kind of gave what I expected of him. That is delivering exposition with a strong sense of conviction and power as you’d expect from an old pro actor giving weight to a franchise. His work goes so much further than that I was genuinely surprised. I for one we get his fake personality side of the character that is wonderfully performed by Skarsgard with the right aloof eccentricity of a far less dangerous sort of man. He’s also terrific in playing the different sides the man puts on depending on who he is negotiating with in a given scene. Skarsgard delivers so effectively different shades and just in doing so makes every single one of his deals making scenes particularly compelling. Skarsgard’s portrayal of the first rebel essentially though is so much more than just gravitas as we see him speak towards the lives it will take where Skarsgard delivers a more fervent intensity and potent passion that is fascinating because in a way he delivers the mad passion of a true radical. Skarsgard powerfully balances that with the moments of reflection where he creates the potent sense of the weight of the responsibility and the sins he’s committed for his noble dream. Skarsgard never simplifies it as he shows the coldness needed to make terrible decisions for a good end, but also conveys the internalized painful emotions the man is keeping away in himself knowing what he is doing is necessary despite being so close to his enemies.)

Gough - (Offers a unique perspective as we see the standard Imperial officer from the inside out. Gough offers what seems like even a sympathetic performance initially in showing the workaday imperial officer, someone just looking for her chances and frustrated by the setbacks within her profession. Consistently delivering a real sense of the person in it all to the point she even kind of brings you into the sense of the character looking for success and finding it, providing a certain exhilaration. This is a particularly brilliant setup because then when we are bluntly reminded of what she does Gough doesn’t just become an Imperial officer, she becomes one of the most brutal and terrifying ones depicted on screen. Presenting the cold efficiency of the Empire with a particular cold intensity and sense of this official callousness in it all, as someone who is doing even the most evil moments as simply part of her job. Gough naturally lets you see the humanity of an imperial only to pull the rug out from you so brutally.)

Serkis - (Well probably my favorite purely live action work from him. Hearing people make Snoke theories about this character made me immediately think “you just don’t get it do you…” because you don’t need any of that magic box nonsense when you have genuinely compelling characters as is. That is the case here in Serkis who we first meet as the face of the loyal prisoner who is bluntly putting things how they are and has the indifference of the man who only cares about how it might affect him. In theoretically what is not long at all Serkis conveys each moment of coming to terms with the reality of his scene, first becoming dejected knowing the truth before slowly building up towards becoming the fierce leader himself. Serkis delivers every step of this journey.)

Louis Morgan said...

O’Reilly - (Funny to see her actually get to play a part after playing nearly a background extra in the prequels then really just there for a bit of exposition in Rogue One. Here we get a genuine character and O’Reilly thrives with it. Portraying effectively the quiet dignity of the proper senator, but going deeper than that in creating the nature of the role with so much more depth. Creating that even though every aspect of that is a facade to some degree and she brilliantly plays around with such nuance in each of these to create the different shades of her character while maintaining that suggested kind of dignity. Creating the quiet sense of frustrations in her personal life and hiding really all of her true feelings. Then in her moments of pulling into her performance the real anxieties of trying to lead a new rebellion in secret creating the real weight of this. It is never a simple thing showing not only the game that must be played through a series of faces but also the wear of it all that must be hidden behind stoic grace.)

Luna - (Rock solid performance even if he’s more so a facilitator performance in some ways, his performance works as such as the hero, however the hero who is slowly learning to become the hero. Luna plays it well in creating the right kind of dogged intensity of the character, but showing the gradual change here to bring slightly less callousness in him as he proceeds through. Mostly though, despite being lead, this is just strong, often reactionary work and always creates a very real sense of the reality in the sci-fi through his performance.)


Hunter - (The mother from hell played with perfect overbearing perfection. She is hilarious every moment she is on screen and makes every one of her lines cut deep in just the right passive aggressive way.)

Soller - (Punchable face perfection. Soller though kind of plays his part as though he were Dale Cooper if you removed all likability or even intimidation, just leaving instead the worst kind of fanboy who wants to make an impression. Eloquently does he realize a character that you hate every single second of when he is on screen. He is terrible in the right way, in delivering every moment in such weak willed intensity of a proper fool in every single way.)

Sibtain - (Gives a great sort of straightforward energy that delivers with it the right undercurrent Laof a quiet emotional stability that ends up being rather powerful later on. Creating in his stoic energy this quiet warmth about him that even as he’s kind of the “man’s man” type he brings with a real sense of someone who earnestly cares.)

Shaw - (Always interesting about her more notable theater bonafides against what she is typically asked to do as an onscreen performer. Here she is actually given a bit more to do than usual for her. She has the mother role and provides for it well. Bringing a natural warmth and gravitas, however, in a way that feels very natural and earned. Her final big moment she delivers effortlessly and brings a proper power to it.)

Louis Morgan said...

Moss-Bacharach - (Goes to show what good casting can do because one could easily have made this a completely disposable role. His performance makes you actually think he will be more important because Moss-Bacharach brings something very real in the quiet intensity of the character, you see someone who is fighting a whole lot of things in himself as he takes on this fight. His final moment I actually thought had more ambiguity than probably as designed because Moss-Bacharach brings such a reality to his character that he makes you second guess if he is actually the one giving the test because what he is speaking is never from a simple emotional space.)

Lawther - (Again casting an actual talented actor can do a lot, as in the wrong hands this could have been a completely forgettable or actually rather annoying character. Lawther brings so much more to it than that in creating an actually endearing quality to the character’s hope, but even portraying that sense of hope with this sort specific deeper sense of thought within the role.)

Matt:

Whitaker technically gives the same performance in terms of the tics and mannerisms, but what you get here is the apparent old John Huston direction of “A little more” and “A little less” and someone actually told him “a little less” this time. It is technically still what he was before, it just is less of it, and for me worked a whole lot better because of it.

Razor:

It’s a good score, definitely very different for Star Wars with a greater intensity and sense of paranoia. And while not as immediately memorable as Williams’s work, it works well for the tone of the series and quite effectively creates a different sense of the world though not completely abandoning all the thematic sense of the old. Britell includes some instrumental elements that are similar while still doing his own thing with a potent emphasis on vocals and more echo centric percussive work.

8000’s:

While I won’t disagree with Robert’s contention, Bud probably shouldn’t survive his wounds, I will admit I’ll sometimes allow one implausibility if the film carried itself successfully to that point with greatness, which Confidential does, so it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. It’s one where the film has earned that happy end for those characters. For me Ed removing his glasses can be interpreted as that, for me it has shown growth, as his glasses as the detective always felt part of his carefully cultivated image as the “white Knight” and letting them go, allows himself to be more honest than he had been before.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Most anticipated:

Mickey7
Killers of the Flower Moon
Dune Part Two
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
Oppenheimer
Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning
Untitled Safdie Brothers Project
Napoleon
Untitled Ethan Coen Project
Maestro

No longer anticipating Next Goal Wins, now just hoping it isn't a continuation of a downward trend.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your reasons why for the 10 you picked.

Matt Mustin said...

Oppenheimer I don't know. Obviously I will see it, because I see all of Nolan's film, but I'm slightly worried about him dealing with this subject. I do hope it lets him go back to real characters though.

Oliver Menard said...

Pattinson, Collette and Yeun working together in Bong's new film sounds like a gold mine for great performances. I haven't read the source material but I'd love to see Bong go back to science fiction.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Arjona, Marsay, Dulau, Townsend, Miles and Ferns in Andor.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What are your #11-20 films of 2013?

Marcus said...

Louis: Thoughts on a hypothetical 2000s Irish Devil and Daniel Webster with Fiennes and Gleeson in the titular roles, and Farrell as Stone?

Calvin Law said...

Loved Bones and All, though I will cosign with Robert on Rylance being a weak link (though I liked him more and didn't find him overly detrimental). Wish Chalamet was more in the conversation given how seemingly 'empty' Lead Actor is, and Russell is sublime.

Anonymous said...

Louis: tell director and cast of On the Waterfront in 1930s, 1970s and 2020s

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the cast of Bones and All?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Mickey7 - (Bong, no other reason needed. I won't be watching any materials for it other than film as I did for Parasite, unless the reviews don't add up.)

Killers of the Flower Moon - (Previously discussed)

Dune Part Two - (Liked part one, so let's see the rest particularly since this half was merged into just basically some montages in Lynch's version for the most part.)

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - (The first one was a lot of fun, so let's see what they do here.)

Oppenheimer - (Slightly trepidations because this story demands CHARACTERS which Nolan has refuted in his last two films. But my hope is that demand will force him to change. Also great cast, Murphy in the lead, and Oppenheimer's personal story has plenty of potent drama in it.)

Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning - (Last two were two of the best action movies in years, so no reason not to look forward to it.)

Untitled Safdie Brothers Project - (Safdies with Sandler again.)

Napoleon - (Phoenix in the lead is intriguing, Napoleon of course has a great story, and Scott has been doing better of late, hope the trend continues.)

Untitled Ethan Coen Project - (I mean let's see what the other brother has in store.)

Maestro - (Bernstein is a fascinating figure, given Spielberg and Scorsese seemed so supportive, will be interesting to see how Cooper's sophomore effort goes.)

Anonymous:

Arjona - (Good as the mostly supportive ex-girlfriend type, however particularly effective in the later scenes in depicting the very real intensity of the torture her character suffers, that feels a whole lot more real than any other version.)

Marsay - (Much better than her ham in Game of Thrones, and is effective in bringing this privileged kind of conviction that is genuine in her intention but also always grants that it is coming from a place of kind of an overconfidence.)

Dulau - (Says a lot without a lot, and gives just a great dynamic presence, to the point I hope she gets more to do as season 2.)

Townsend - (Not an aggressively simplified Imperial officer, though plays that pompous note well, brings more to his scenes than that in conveying genuine concern for his family and frustrations in the betrayal that go beyond just an evil man reacting.)

Miles - (Effective chemistry with O'Reilly in seemingly conveying much about their relationship that seems to beyond friendship, with a terrific relaxed ease, while also creating the right undercurrent of more intense weight in their later conversations.)

Ferns - (A fine sort of dumb sidekick without overdoing that quality, and appropriately comical in his bad skype call scene.)

Anonymous:



Marcus:

An ideal cast.

Calvin:

I will say, without giving anything away, I am surprised that Chalamet was left off by both the Gothams and Indie Spirits, however I'd say very much the victim of the merged categories since voters can say "they covered Bones and All" by nominating Russell. I think he probably would've been nominated if the categories were separate.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I think I gave that when I revisited 2013.

Anonymous:

On the Waterfront 1930's directed by Raoul Walsh:

Terry Malloy: James Cagney
Father Barry: Pat O'Brien
Johnny Friendly: George Bancroft
Charley Malloy: Wallace Ford
Edie Doyle: Barbara Stanwyck

On the Waterfront 1970's directed by Martin Scorsese:

Terry Malloy: Robert De Niro
Father Barry: Robert Duvall
Johnny Friendly: George C. Scott
Charley Malloy: Harvey Keitel
Edie Doyle: Susan Sarandon

On the Waterfront 2020's directed by Steve McQueen:

Terry Malloy: LaKeith Stanfield
Father Barry: Mahershala Ali
Johnny Friendly: Sterling K. Brown
Charley: Brian Tyree Henry
Edie Doyle: Thuso Mbedu