Friday 25 November 2022

Alternate Best Actor 2016: Shahab Hosseini in The Salesman

Shahab Hosseini did not receive an Oscar nomination, despite winning CANNES, for portraying Emad in The Salesman. 

Shahab Hosseini is one of director Ashgar Farhadi's most frequent collaborators, before this film Hosseini previously was featured in his film A Separation, a Farhardi's legal thriller in so many words. As with any good collaboration you see a variety of roles for a performer which is the circumstance for Hosseini when you compare his performance here to in A Separation, despite the characters sharing a similar plot connection. In that previous film, Hosseini exuded really traditional male overcompensation, a man defined entirely by his macho anger as he roared in an attempt to get justice for his wife in the film. Well, Hosseini seems almost a different man here as the milquetoast schoolteacher. Hosseini delivers a wonderful natural aggregability in the role. A man who really isn't of any note in a certain sense, but also in actually a good sense. The most traumatic element we see is he and his wife are in need of a new apartment after their old building collapsed, but even with this Emad and his wife Rana (Taraneh Alidoosti), don't present as any great weight upon them. In fact, what we see is the two of them are more focused on the production of Death of a Salesman that both are performing in. Emad is the opposite of the play's Willy Loman, Hosseini exudes a man who has a general comfort with life, and shares a wonderful chemistry with Alidoosti. It isn't anything that is even focused upon rather the love between them is a natural given and the two have an endearing energy as really a proper pair in the best sense. We see the fun of them preparing together for their performance and even as they prepare their new apartment, it is just with a cheery disposition of two loving each other and loving life even with its little pitfalls. Where Willy also struggles with his ideas of what it means to be a man, Emad seems to have no struggle. Even in a moment, where he a woman complains about being near him in a taxi, Hosseini presents just a hint of confusion but acceptance when he must switch places. When one of his students, who was also in the taxi, vocalizes his annoyance with the situation, Emad only counters with an empathetic view towards the woman likely having been a victim of some man in a taxi at some point. Hosseini delivers this moment pitch-perfect as it isn't with some purity of sainthood, but rather just a calm understanding of human nature and an acceptance of both imperfections but also the struggles others have that may at times cause issues for others. 

Their ideal lives though are shaken when Rana, alone at home, is left injured after being attacked by a man looking for the former renter of their new apartment, a prostitute. Initially, Hosseini delivers still just a loving concern and a sense of quiet dismay over the situation. Hosseini doesn't present it as shattering just unpleasant and also a moment of utter concern for his wife. Hosseini presents Emad as certainly bothered by what happened but willing to just help his wife get through it in the best way they are able to. Unfortunately, Rana is traumatized by the incident as she shows her fear of going into the bathroom alone, where her attack took place, and it causes her to freeze when attempting to perform The Salesman again. Here is where the plot thickens and where we come to understand the nature of the film, which is where A Separation a very unique legal thriller, here it becomes an extremely unique revenge thriller. Hosseini naturally builds towards the moment in which Emad is going to essentially try to be the hero, which is not a single step. Rather we see the genuine heartbreak in his eyes as he sees the suffering his wife is going through, and there is nothing easy in his manner towards it. We see the man losing his comfort in life and struggling to just calmly accept what has come. Hosseini brings the right shortness in his delivery when he inquires from a friend who suggested the apartment why he had not told them about who the former renter was. Hosseini delivers anger that isn't like his previous performance, but rather an anger befitting a more subdued man that is Emad. We rather see the realization of the frustrations of the situation, which comes from a very real concern for his wife, however, it is turning Emad away from the more empathetic individual of before. Hosseini makes this situation natural and properly painful by showing that is honestly all coming from a decent place, the care he has for his wife, however it is starting to realize itself in less than ideal ways. 


Hosseini is powerful in just portraying so realistically the wear of the situation, and the weight upon the man as he attempts to deal with the implications of the attack. When dealing with the previously normal moments of life, like preparing to act in the play or teaching, there is a greater intensity. Hosseini's performance exudes such palatable emotions of frustrations of the man who is unable to essentially settle within his life at this point. There is a great extended scene where Emad interrogates a student for having filmed him while sleeping. Hosseini's performance is filled with bitterness towards the student and you just see the shortness of his fuse in every interaction that is stark, but so naturally, the contrast from the gently supportive teacher from before. We see the same when continually snaps at his co-star who not only gave him the apartment that led to the attack but also ended up revealing more about the attack. Hosseini's performance again is fantastic because he makes it such a normal man who is growing in this callousness towards others and ferocious discontent with those around him. And we see the motivation of this so clearly in his moments with Rana that somehow keep getting tainted by the memory of the attack, whether that is dealing with her trauma, or even strange side effects such as suddenly having their stomachs churn when they find out Rana accidentally bought food with money that had been left behind by the attacker. Hosseini's depiction of this is as a man who is suffering very much for his wife and creates the specific sense of the constant reminders that fill him with anger and despair.

What becomes Emad's solace is essentially playing "the man" who is exacting his revenge, and what Hosseini's performance becomes is a brilliant deconstruction of this very idea. We see him as he goes about his revenge procedure of setting a trap for the man by using the truck left behind by the man as bait. In these scenes, there is greater comfort in Hosseini's performance, as he shows a man suddenly in command of his space again and with some actual confidence in himself again. Emad manages to get the man to come, who at first pretends that it was his son-in-law and not him until pressing questions to reveal the truth. Hosseini's great throughout this scene by again in a way presenting the "perfect" front of the man seeking justice in every question and accusatory stare. He has a firm command of the moment and is in control, even if what that means is basically locking up and pestering a sleazy old family man with a heart condition. When Rana shows up, it is not with satisfaction as she is clearly horrified by the idea of revenge, while Hosseini keeps this specific state of the man doing what he thinks to essentially "be a man". When the man seemed almost dead this changes briefly, particularly after the man's loving family shows up, and Hosseini's great in his subtle reactions of holding in his ire and segueing to the man of before as he exhibits genuine concern for another human being. When it seems the man is fine though Emad allows the man to keep his secret, but only if he gets the evidence of his ill deeds from Emad in private. The lead-up to this is perfection from Hosseini as in his eyes there is such a specific sense of fixation of a man proving something to himself to the point of blindness. In the actual confrontation, Hosseini's great by portraying basically "the hero" as he dispenses justice by giving the materials and a slap to go with it. Hosseini's presenting within his own work a sense of catharsis, only for Emad. This is instantly cut off when this leads to a second episode for the old man as he appears to be dying. Leaving only reactions from Rana and Emad as they look on. Hosseini's performance at this moment is outstanding as the whole concept of his revenge is instantly shattered and his expression is such an eloquent realization of a man understanding the actual results of his desire for revenge. Hosseini's performance shows the decent man before seeing that his behavior to be the "heroic man" has left nothing but pain for others and distress for his wife. This is a brilliant subversive portrait of a man trying and failing to be the avenging hero. 

79 comments:

Shaggy Rogers said...

Now that 2016 reviews are going to get more exciting.

Matt Mustin said...

Brilliant performance in a great film.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Tell which actors are lead and supporting of 2022 movies that will have 5 of Louis?

Lead
Colin Farrell - The Banshees of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Song Kang ho - Broker
Park Hae-il - Decison to Leave
Alexander Skarsgård - The Northman
Timothée Chalamet - Bones and All
Ralph Fiennes - The Menu

Supporting
Brendan Gleeson and Barry Keoghan - The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All at Once
Anthony Hopkins - Armageddon Time
Mark Ryalance - Bones and All
Nicholas Hoult - The Menu

Marcus said...

Shaggy: Agreed with your Lead Actor predictions, but not sure about Fiennes. For Supporting Actor I think the Banshees duo and Quan are the only certainties so far.

Luke Higham said...

Bill Nighy for Living. If anyone's getting a 5 from The Menu it will be Fiennes.

Wouldn't be surprised if Rylance gets one for one of his leading turns.

And I'm fairly confident for Schuch in All Quiet On The Western Front.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Denys Coop's work in 10 Rillington Place.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Rylance getting a 5 for Bones and All would officially be the single largest disagreement Louis and I have had.

Luke Higham said...

I'm predicting a 4.5 for Bones And All.

Anonymous said...

Shaggy: I believe Dano for The Fabelmans also gets a 5.

Perfectionist said...

Is Hopkins genuinely that good in Armageddon Time to be worthy of a 5, or is it "The Father" quota??? Because I haven't really heard that much praise for anyone from that movie in particular, and most of the reviews are quite mixed.

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: I think he's getting a 4.5. Didn't get the impression that he'd be higher than that.

Louis Morgan said...

Devotion is alright, but definitely nothing special unfortunately despite Majors giving a strong performance.

Majors - 4.5
Powell - 3.5
Jackson - 3.5
Everyone else - 2 to 2.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Majors and Powell.

Calvin Law said...

So happy you finally got to review this performance, great to see a writeup on a performance you just missed out on watching in time for the original lineups so seeing Hosseini get his flowers here is great. Also, great review. Love you touching upon all the brilliantly subversive elements of this turn.

Bryan L. said...

Perfectionist_ad: Hopkins in Armageddon Time seems more of a 4.5 to me, having seen the film. Acting-wise, he’s the highlight, but he doesn’t appear in it *that* much.

Matt Mustin said...

The Guardians of The Galaxy Holiday Special is enjoyable enough. Nice to see focus on Drax and Mantis. Definitely should've been released MUCH closer to Christmas though, I foresee a future rewatch in mid-December.

Bautista-3.5
Klementieff-3.5
Pratt-3
Cooper-3
Gunn-2.5
Rooker-3
Bacon-4

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Great review of a great performance.

Watched The Swimmers on Netflix, which is imperfect and slightly overlong, but powerful nonetheless.

Manal Issa - 4.5
Nathalie Issa - 4.5
Malek - 4
Schweighöfer - 3.5
Floyd - 3
Suliman - 3.5
Alloush - 3.5

Anonymous said...

Luke, who do you predict for both Lead Actor lineups.

Luke Higham said...

Official:
Austin Butler - Elvis
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Colin Farrell - The Banshees Of Inisherin
Bill Nighy - Living
Hugh Jackman - The Son or Diego Calva - Babylon

Alternate:
Alexander Skarsgård - The Northman
Song Kang-Ho - Broker
Park Hae-Il - Decision To Leave
Ralph Fiennes - The Menu
Timothée Chalamet - Bones And All
Felix Kammerer - All Quiet On The Western Front
Mark Rylance - The Outfit/The Phantom Of The Open (Phantom for prediction)
Jeremy Pope - The Inspection
Diego Calva - Babylon
Christian Bale/Harry Melling - The Pale Blue Eye (Melling for prediction)

Alt. Adam Driver - White Noise

Calvin Law said...

RIP Irene Cara.

Matthew Montada said...

Luke: who would you predict for Louis’s supporting actor lineups?

RIP Irene Cara

Bryan L. said...

Still wondering if any leading male performances are going to catch heat and take the fifth slot away from Jackman. Not that I’m rooting for that per se, but it just seems like Jackmans’ going to get in by default.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Irene Cara

Official:
Brendan Gleeson/Barry Keoghan - The Banshees Of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All At Once
Judd Hirsch - The Fabelmans
Ben Whishaw - Women Talking

Alternate:
Paul Dano - The Batman/The Fabelmans (Fabelmans for prediction plus a review of Turturro if upgraded)
Albrecht Schuch - All Quiet On The Western Front
Anthony Hopkins - Armageddon Time
Mark Rylance - Bones And All
Nicholas Hoult - The Menu

And a bonus review for Eddie Redmayne in The Good Nurse.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this anime opening? (mostly interested on your thoughts on the song)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKdpMnwZf0&t=5s&ab_channel=CrunchyrollCollection

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Well, that OP really pulled a bait and switch in the first ten seconds; As in, the rest of the song is more energetic than the opening might suggest. It still doesn't look like a show I'd generally watch, but the song is solid at least.

On an Anime related note, what are your thoughts on this track titled "Will of the Drill"? It was created as potential music for a long time versus match up - Kyle Rayner (DC Comics) vs Simon The Digger (IE from Gurren Lagann). Having researched both characters, there's more connections between them than you might expect, and it's making me want to watch Gurren personally (never seen). As for the song, it's a good burst of energy and suitably evocative IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9g5lyj2SSs&ab_channel=BrandonYates

JackiBoyz said...

It has been a long time since I have commented on this blog, hello to everyone and hope you are all ok but I heard that my former colleague has lost his job recently and I just wanted to check to see if he was OK, since I know he contributes to this blog still, just wanted to know if Daniel Thornton (RatedRStar) was ok.

He doesn't use social media too much so I thought I'd check if he had spoken to anyone recently on here?

Robert MacFarlane said...

JackiBoyz: According to the last post’s comments, he last commented on the 20th.

Matt Mustin said...

Oh, I forgot to mention I finished Stranger Things. Season 4 MVP Sadie Sink, but goddamn, Robert Englund is amazing in his small appearance too.

Favourite season overall is still probably season 2.

Marcus said...

Louis: Based on the whole show so far, your ranked top 10 performances in Stranger Things?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChqXlyD-5KY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qCvrpOOMYuY

Tony Kim said...

JackiBoyz: Sorry to hear that about RatedRStar.

Louis: Regarding the Simpsons, what are your thoughts on what fans have dubbed the "Jerkass Homer" phenomenon, if you're familiar with it? Are there any points in the series where you felt the writers were taking Homer's careless/selfish behaviour too far to the point of being genuinely cruel and unpleasant?

And if it's not too much trouble, could I get your thoughts on the following episodes:

The Secret War of Lisa Simpson
The Principal and the Pauper
Lisa the Simpson
Lisa's Sax
The Cartridge Family
Lisa the Skeptic
Miracle on Evergreen Terrace
The Joy of Sect
Trash of the Titans
King of the Hill

Sorry, I know that's a lot.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I hope Daniel's doing alright, the people on this blog are always here for you man in case you're reading this.

Mitchell: That's quite the intriguing match up on paper - also not familiar with Gurren outside of really loving its first opening sequence, which I should rectify in the future.

Also really dug that track, loved the vocals and instrumentation that made some potentially cheesy lyrics quite engaging.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: Any upgrades for the cast of The Handmaiden? I'm happy to see the film went up with you. One of the best of the decade.

Calvin Law said...

Delighted to see The Handmaiden go up, bodes well for Park potentially making the top 5 in Director.

Bryan L. said...

Louis et al: Do you think there could be an argument that the campaign for The Fablemans should switch Dano over to Lead? There’s hardly any competition in the 6th-10th range, and Jackmans’ place so far has just seemed to be “there”.

Plus, it could free up a spot for Judd Hirsch in Supporting (from The Fablemans’ team perspective), and they technically already did the same for Michelle Williams. Just some food for thought.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Just saw Glass Onion. Can confirm Louis was being a grump. Very much enjoyed it.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Loved Bones and All all the way through.

Russell - 5
Chalamet - 5
Rylance - 4 (basically if Herbert from Family Guy was a cannibal as well, but hey, it worked for me)
Stuhlbarg - 4
Holland - 3.5
Green - 3.5
Cobb - 3
Harper - 3.5
Sevigny - 3.5

Louis Morgan said...

The Fabelmans is Spielberg's turn to wax nostalgic about his childhood, and I was all here for it. Spielberg does of course paint with the sentiment, and so beautifully so here. Showing the basic love of filmmaking in such a pure and joyful form. Although not as simple of a tale as one might expect, as it balances it with a tale of childhood, positive in some ways, but also is the story of an eventually broken home, which is actually far more painfully portrayed than I might've expected. The two elements end up contrasting and complimenting each other in times of a real struggle of balancing one's personal dreams and personal journey through life. I loved almost everything about this, except the "MVP" according to the critics. It only speaks to the strength of the film that I loved it all just the same, even while actively disliking a central performance. 

Also, any film that manages to make "The Greatest Show On Earth" seem epic, deserves all the praise in the world. 


Labelle - 4
Francis-DeFord - 3
Williams - 2
Rogen - 3.5
Butters - 3.5
Berlin - 3
Cameo that I loved so much - 4

Luke Higham said...

A 2 for Williams, I'm stunned.

And not surprised with a 4 for Mr. D**** L****.

Louis: Thoughts on the cast.

Luke Higham said...

I guess it's between Buckley and Condon for your Supporting Actress win.

Is Dano definitely Supporting.

Louis Morgan said...

To (Daniel) RatedRStar:

Hope you are doing alright, always appreciate your enthusiasm.

Tahmeed:

I rather liked that song actually, quite the dramatic and tremendous build towards quite the intensity smear of lyrics and equally intense instrumental in the climax of the song. Liked the building though of the very brief but quiet opening, that suddenly builds quite expressively.

Marcus:

1. Joe Keery
2. Sadie Sink
3. David Harbour
4. Maya Hawke
5. Millie Bobby Brown
6. Noah Schnapp
7. Robert Englund
8. Sean Astin
9. Gaten Matarazzo
10. Paul Reiser

Anonymous:

An effective scene in terms of conveying exposition to a character while doing so in a way that does more than that, in that you see Kim's tough exterior fade once Lalo is brought up, and contrasting that you have Mike in a particularly warm, at least for Mike, the manner in his warning attempt. Also, the callback to his days as the attendant is more than just remembering a plot element, there is "I was" that has a whole lot more weight to it than a simple job change.

A good scene that is basically a return to the very first time we met Mike where he deals with a very traumatic and criminal situation with strict professionalism and details, where you see how good Mike is at his job, but also the underlying cruelty this sort of distance about it entails.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

I am, and I feel it started to realize itself most beyond season 12 when I began dropping off, and the movie is a great example of it, which is part of the reason why I hate it. When Homer would make a mistake in the original seasons it was usually due to foolishness or ignorance, but when it came down to it he loved his family. They took away that element and he started doing things just because he was a jerk, not because was an idiot.

Well, let me start with three of those.

The Secret War of Lisa Simpson - (Not really a gag fest episode though there are some good ones in there like Willem Dafoe's acceptance of a female recruit due to there being female motorists, Chief Wiggum describing his brother-in-law as making it because he now operates a famous cave or Bart's success with large firearms. It works though in dramatic terms for the brother and sister relationship that does work here and creates some emotional stakes with a proper payoff in the final scenes.)

The Principal and the Pauper - (The most hated of all Simpsons episodes. I will say personally I never hated the episode as much as some. Although I will say it took a bit of a hit when I heard the audio commentary on it. Where the writer of the episode seemed to think someone pretending to be a completely different person and then you finding out they were not that person would not be a traumatic event for anybody. Seems like he doesn't have a grasp of basic reality there. The actual episode I just don't think is that funny. There is a good gag here or there like when we see Skinner as the bad boy. Those moments are funny but fake Skinner or real Skinner isn't that funny. It just doesn't really have that much going on other than the shock factor of the fake Skinner. And so when it really doesn't work beyond the twist for the sake of it it is a failure as an episode.)

Lisa the Simpson - (I don't love this episode at all. For one thing, it did this greater separation of Lisa from the rest of the family which I think was a mistake. I think it was better when she was smarter but she still had Simpson's traits and when they started peeling that away I think it was a detriment to the character. Also, I don't think it's fair to Bart should previous seasons you saw he was intelligent but in kind of a Lex Luthor way where it would go to mischief rather than constructive means. Additionally, it's just his plot-wise incorrect because her brother Homer's brother was obviously a successful person, and was intelligent. Again whatever lack of continuity is fine, if it's funny I don't think this episode is that funny. It has a good gag here and there I love the news runner who wants to get fired so he lets Lisa keep talking that's kind of funny. The b plot is kind of weak people at just because it has nothing to do with anything I think there are a couple of funny gags in there like Jasper's reaction to moon pies but otherwise it is pretty weak. There are definitely worse episodes but I think in some ways that show signs of the negative trends that would dog the show more later on.)

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Majors - (In part just a rock-solid leading turn. He plays the part with a no-nonsense strength that is very convincing and compelling. He presents a man who actually doesn't have it easy just in terms of his own skill and he is able to realize that internally quite effectively throughout his performance. He shows a man who purposefully toughens it out more often than not yet he does convey the wear of that quite effectively. It isn't a performance that is constantly pushing him to his limit but Majors is effective in creating a more stoic energy for the most part. He brings the right earnestness and it is a shame the film isn't quite on his level. He has one pivotal scene where you really see what's going on inside the character and it's right at you at the camera and Majors makes the most of it. He brings all the intensity he needs to end today's every bit of wear and trauma that his character has gone through and expresses it so powerfully.)

Powell - (I will say that I thought he was just kind of there for most of the film and this would be a lower rating if I was only basing this on 90% of his performance. Powell makes up for it in that last 10%. He absolutely delivers on the emotional Devastation his character is going through and he absolutely carries every single minute of the last act of the film. He ends up being quite moving and I was pretty impressed after not being overly impressed for most of it.) 

Oliver: 

Kim Min-hee up to a 5, Kim Tae-ri up to a 4.5 (I still think she overdoes a couple of moments here and there), Ha up to a 4.5 and Cho up to a 4. 

Bryan:

Hmmm, Dano is 100% supporting, but maybe. Hirsch and him fighting it out might be detrimental for both, as it is a big performance with very little screentime versus a subtle performance with a lot of screentime. And with Keoghan and Gleeson already trying to double up, it only complicates things further for the category, where there is room in lead. Still, subtle turns struggle in lead, but he could pull a Steven Yeun in the right circumstances. 

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Labelle - (I rather liked his performance. He brings the right earnest quality to it. He doesn't try to make too much of an impression but I think he steps back from being completely just in the background. The sort of surrogate role can be a tough one to pull off and I think he handles it rather nicely. He doesn't try to show off too much but he does bring the right sort of sense of inspirational quality just as he brings the right sense of frustration in the part as well. He balances the sides to give a more realize performance that makes you able to easily empathize with him as the central role does make enough of an impression to still be a character on his own. I think he's particularly good in the moments of just reacting particularly when we see him editing a certain fill. He does more than just a kind of stair which I think was a danger in this part. He manages to express the journey of Spielberg, which is essentially a quiet one at times but does so in a way where you still feel and understand each step of the way.)

Francis-DeFord - (Completely fine in bringing the very specific sense of wonder without overdoing it.)

Williams - (Where do I begin? She is the Mark Ruffalo of Spotlight for this film giving a completely over-the-top aggressively mannered performance around much more subtle turns. Even the more eccentric turns feel more appropriate to their characters but there's also a lot less of them. Even taking them as such they seem more realistic than whatever the hell Williams is doing here. Her performance is every bit of the worst kind of look at me I'm acting. Now she should contrast with what Dano is doing, most definitely. But it should be in a way where you are supposed to believe this person has a bigger personality but not a personality that seems completely phony and outrageous. Every moment just about I felt this calculation in her performance to make sure you see how big her acting is. Even the way she smiles in closeup feels like blatant overacting. It's also a big problem in terms of the arc of the character; there is nowhere for her to go. She's so big, to begin with, that when she supposedly spirals out of control she's already ridiculous, where can she go? It's just such an aggressively loud performance and in every scene, she's in I was not convinced by what she was doing. I was seeing someone trying to give an awards-worthy performance rather than the mother of this character. I believed just about everyone else in this movie but I did not believe her for a second. She needed to turn it down, particularly in the early scenes of the film but no she's just that big the whole time. Going in I was ready to buy the hype I was not going in hoping this would be a performance I was ready to cut down. It's just every scene I kept going man she is hamming it up and that's why this performance is a big slice of ham. There's occasionally a second or two where I felt something more earnest which is why she isn’t lower, it's however just a second or two at a time. I will say though despite being 100% supporting I hope she stays lead that way she can lose to Blanchett or Deadwyler and not steal the Oscar from Condon or another deserving performance.)

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: On that note, what are your favorite "director's surrogate" performances?

Louis Morgan said...

Rogen - (Effective in playing his note as a bit more complicated than just the loving "Uncle". He manages to play that side well with the right warmth, but does bring some honestly subtle work in creating the sense of the complicated relationship that is going on largely in just some reactionary moments.)

Butters - (Once again good, bringing the right honesty in her moments of reaction, by creating her own sense of concern though off to the side, and makes the most of her big confrontation scene with Labelle.)

Berlin - (Always a welcome presence, only for a couple bits, but enjoyed her in her bits.)

Tony Kim said...

Louis - I generally agree with your points, esp. regarding Lisa the Simpson.

What are your thoughts on Mike Scully's tenure as showrunner? Do you have any favourites among The Simpsons' different showrunners?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Just got out of Fabelmans as well, and couldn’t agree more about Williams. By far the film’s weak link.

Razor said...

Another W for Spielberg & Kushner.

Louis: Thoughts on the direction for The Handmaiden if you haven't given them.

Matt Mustin said...

Mostly really liked Harmonium and I'll leave it at that for now.

Asano-5(I'll have more to say when Louis's review is posted. Also, he's definitely lead to me, but I can understand why someone might think he's not.)

Tsutsui-5(Also lead. Completely amazing work from beginning to end.)

Furutachi-4.5(For the most part just a great facilitator for the amazing performances around him, while still being good on his own, while never really standing out too much. Until the ending. Where he does stand out.)

Taiga-3.5

8000S said...

Louis: You forgot to give your thoughts on Denys Coop's cinematography in 10 Rillington Place.

Also, for other roles in Kurosawa films aside from the wife in Rashomon, what do you think of Hara for the wife roles in The Bad Sleep Well and High and Low?

Aside from that, maybe either her, Kyo or Takamine as Mifune's wife in a 50's Se7en directed by Kurosawa? A 50's Kurosawa Se7en by the way would be an excellent sequel to Stray Dog IMO.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Without giving away your thoughts on the performance, were you even remotely surprised I disliked Rylance in Bones and All?

Anonymous said...

Louis, your thoughts on the cast of Glass Onion.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Roy Scheider - All That Jazz
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Xia Yu - In The Heat of the Sun
John Huston - The Other Side of the Wind
Antonio Banderas - Pain And Glory

8000's:

The cinematography of 10 Rillington Place is part of Richard Fleischer's direction which is "matter of fact" in a way that is essential to the film's overall approach to reality in a way that is so painfully disturbing. The cinematography is naturalistic lighting, though it doesn't bring attention to the naturalistic quality it just is. It is framed in a way that is cramped, perhaps required due to shooting on location, but either way, it works in creating the sense of claustrophobia of the titular place. There are definitely specific choices regarding Attenborough's framing in certain scenes, where he is often leaning in and out of the darkness, they don't bring attention to it in an obvious way however almost subconsciously give you the sense of the character's unnerving nature. The work doesn't bring attention to itself overall however is precise in crafting itself as reality, where there are definitely choices beyond basic point and shoot, but always in a way that is low key that it might as well be a documentary. In turn, it crafts particularly unique moments for a film of its ilk, where some of the corpse scenes are so unsettling because they are framed in just a "kind of there" way, particularly when we see the new renters discover what Christie left behind.

Yes I could see Hara in those roles. I'd probably say Kyo for that particular role.

Tony:

Looking at it Mike Scully did preside over the slow degradation of the series, however previously successful showrunner Al Jean saw it go all the way down. I think in the long run the writing teams were more important, as that is the true change if you look at the scheme of things, among other things, that perhaps suggested the decline. I think also just general malaise probably set in, running out of ideas, and actually the switch over to Digital animation.

Robert:

No, as watching it is a "out on a limb" performance, which are likely to be divisive. Additionally you've been overall less of a fan of Rylance in general so I wasn't too surprised.

Anonymous:

Impossible to do so without getting into spoilers. Except Craig who does a fine reprise.

Michael McCarthy said...

Just watched The Son. PLEASE save your money folks, it is truly the worst kind of melodrama. Easily my least favorite screenplay of the year, every character felt like they were written by an angry 15 year old who’d never taken a writing class.

Jackman: 3/3.5
McGrath: 1
Dern: 3.5
Kirby: 2.5
Hopkins: 3.5/4

Robert MacFarlane said...

I don't think I've heard a single kind word for McGarth thus far.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the last scene with Lady Washizu and Lord Washizu's death scene in Throne of Blood.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Tell me which Louis' Top 5 Supporting Actress of 2016:
1. Taraeh Alidoosti – The Salesman
2. Kirin Kiki - After the Storm
3. Felicity Jones – A Monster Calls
4. Imogen Poots – Green Room
5. Jean Malone – The Neon Demon

PS: If Louis considered War & Peace, surely Buckley would win the overall.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: After Alternate Lead Actor Results, are you still going to do Alternate Supporting Actor 2016?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Can you confirm if Asano went up for Silence?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Speaking of Silence, has anyone seen the 71 version directed by Masahiro Shinoda?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these Oscar-nominated/winning songs?

- “The Way We Were”
- “Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now”
- “Sooner or Later (I Always Get My Man)”
- “Hopelessly Devoted to You”
- “Evergreen”

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Cate Blanchett in Tár.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello Louis and folks.
Coming to the last month of 2022, let's talk about our predictions:

SONG
“Applause” - Tell It Like a Woman
“Hold My Hand” - Top Gun: Maverick
“Lift Me Up” - Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
“Naatu Naatu” - RRR
“Stand Up” - Till

SCORE
Babylon
The Banshees of Inisherin
The Fabelmans
Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio
TAR

SOUND
All Quiet on the Western Front
Avatar: The Way of Water
Babylon
Elvis
Top Gun: Maverick

EDITING
The Banshees of Inisherin
Decision to Leave
Everything Everywhere All at Once
The Fabelmans
Top Gun: Maverick

VISUAL EFFECTS
Avatar: The Way of Water
The Batman
Everything Everywhere All at Once
Nope
Top Gun: Maverick

MAKEUP AND HAIR STYLIST
The Batman
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Elvis
Everything Everywhere All at Once
The Whale

COSTUME DESIGN
Babylon
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Elvis
The Fabelmans
Women Talking

PRODUCTION DESIGN
Avatar: The Way of Water
Babylon
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Elvis
The Fabelmans

CINEMATOGRAPHY
Babylon
The Banshees of Inisherin
Decison to Leave
The Fabelmans
Top Gun: Maverick

INTERNATIONAL FEATURE
All Quiet on the Western Front (Germany)
Argentina 1985 (Argentina)
Close (Belgium)
Decison to Leave (South Korea)
Holy Spider (Denmark)

ANIMATED FEATURE
Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish
Strange World
Turning Red
Wendell & Wild

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
All Quiet on the Western Front
Glass Onion
She Said
The Whale
Women Talking

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
The Banshees of Inisherin
Decison to Leave
Everything Everywhere All at Once
The Fabelmans
TAR

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Jessie Buckley - Women Talking
Hong Chau - The Whale
Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin
Claire Foy - Women Talking
Carey Mulligan - She Said

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Paul Dano - The Fabelmans
Brendan Gleeson - The Banshees of Inisherin
Judd Hirsch - The Fabelmans
Barry Keoghan - The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All at Once

LEAD ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - TAR
Danielle Deadwyler - Till
Margot Robbie - Babylon
Michelle Williams - The Fabelmans
Michelle Yeoh - Everything Everywhere All at Once

LEAD ACTOR
Austin Butler - Elvis
Diego Calva - Babylon
Colin Farrell - The Banshees of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Bill Nighy - Living

DIRECTOR
Damien Chazelle - Babylon
Park Chan Wook - Decison to Leave
The Daniels - Everything Everywhere All at Once
Steven Spielberg - The Fabelmans
Sarah Polley - Women Talking

PICTURE
Babylon
Decision to Leave
Everything Everywhere All at Once
The Fabelmans
Women Talking
The Banshees of Inisherin
Top Gun - Maverick
TAR
Elvis
She Said, unfortunately. The candidate with zero chance of winning and who could give up the seat to All Quiet on the Western Front. Or is it too tragic for the Academy to nominate more than one non-English language film for best picture?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Dickey and Studi in A Love Song.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Think you guys are massively overestimating Keoghan.

Anonymous said...

Robert: Just like Hirsch. I don't understand how he's more likely to be nominated than Dano.

Anonymous said...

I think Avatar is getting underestimated (and I dont even think the reviews are going to be superb)

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

The former is closer to the Shakespeare in falling into the insanity of her existence and effectively portrayed as such. Death of Washizu is an all time great scene, a scene that no other Macbeth can live up to, and few death scenes can live up to. In part Kurosawa's re-write of his men, logically, turning on the traitor is brilliant, but the execution of it is cinematic glory. The arrows themselves being real is something else, and the fact that even terrified Mifune was able to still act the final death moments only makes it all the greater. A man being surrounded by deathly arrows is a sight that is so unique and pointedly powerful.

Tahmeed:

He's a firm 4.5.

Anonymous:

The Way We Were - (I'm decidedly not a Streisand fan, not that I hate her singing or anything, but doesn't speak to me the way it obviously does to some. Definitely dated to early 70's but I'll admit the instrumentation, other than the weird rock peddles highlights that are so brief one ponders why they were even included, is so rich and the melody so potent. Additionally the lyrics are rich in expressing past regrets rather powerfully.)

I've previously covered nothing's Gonna Stop US Now.

Sooner or Later - (I typically like Sondheim, but not this one. I think the instrumentation is okay, but never quite comes together. It's a bit all over the place and a bit too random other than the bit of "sooner or later". The lyrics also feel a bit stumbling around and don't quite find their path, though the idea is kind of there. I also think it suffers from Madonna's vocals here, which I speak more stylistically than quality. I think it needed more so the big voiced 30's delivery where Madonna delivers it closer to how she would a pop-song.)

Hopelessly Devoted To You - (Now here is a ballad that works for me, and I certainly do like Newton-John's impassioned delivery. I think it finds the right kind of balance to 70's pop but with enough of a kind of riff of a 50's style ballad. It manages style itself with a sense for both. And I just like the melody here that just so effectively goes along with the sort of needing frustrated lyrics while always being so pleasant all the same.)

Evergreen - (Now here is one that I actively dislike and where I can appreciate The Way We Were, this to me feels the unused outtake of the previous song or at best its b-side. This one though I think has aggressively corny and basic lyrics. The melody just some vague sentimentality in search of something more distinct or expressive.)

Luke:

Let me give it a re-watch first, as I'd like to see how certain moments play on re-watch when you know the whole of the character.

Dickey - 4.5(Just the type of performance that shows what a performer can do in the sense of being compelling just in themselves. Dickey has innately so much life to her that really saying just a few words she can say so much more. Her character isn't even going through that much but Dickey can make it enough by just bringing such a potent sense of herself in every scene and every moment. In an interesting way it is a true star turn in that the dependence is on presence, which Dickey wholly delivers on.)

Studi - 4(Nice to see him in a role that isn't just Native chief of some degree of goodness or nefariousness. He has a strong chemistry with Dickey and creates an innate sense of history even as we're not told too much of it. His presence though, like hers, is welcome and captivating in itself here.)

Robert:

I'm not predicting him but I think the field is shallow enough (particularly in terms of non-sole nominee contenders), that I do think it is possible.

Marcus said...

Louis: What factors do you think allowed Three Billboards to resonate more with the Academy compared to McDonagh's previous efforts?

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

For a few reasons I think typically, particularly idiosyncratic filmmakers, there is a certain point where the filmmaker builds towards a certain overall recognition that forces the Academy's hand to a certain extent, like the Coens didn't get major recognition until Fargo, despite receiving plenty of praise before then. Of course McDonagh was partially on the Academy's radar anyways, having won for Six Shooter, and getting the writer's branch recognition for In Bruges.

Three Billboards though also had all the right stars align. It had the praise, it had the forward momentum via the right Film Festivals (whereas In Bruges for example came out in February), it was his most overtly serious minded film in terms of the overall tone and to put it bluntly, it was set in America. It will be interesting to see what Banshees now does, I think it probably will greatly benefit from Three Billboards already breaking the ice for him so to speak in terms of overall major recognition among the branches, which will likely combat the fact that it is more overtly comedic than that film and is obviously more idiosyncratic in terms of setting and subject matter.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Well, Seven Psychopaths was set in America too, wasn't it?

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

Yeah but with a schizo meta narrative that was never going to be the Academy's cup of tea, particularly not at that time.

Matthew Montada said...

Louis: do you consider Wes Studi in A Love Song to be co-lead or supporting?

Louis Morgan said...

Supporting, no question.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: I have a pitch for What We Do in the Shadows Season 5. Lazlo, finally fed up with centuries of his work plagiarized, finally decides to sue the individual responsible for 35% of it: A recently returned Staten Island resident, Lydia Tár.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: Awesome, but only if they get Cate Blanchett back of course.

Matt Mustin said...

Also, I just want to hear the way Matt Berry would pronounce "Lydia Tar"

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Sold! If at the very least to hear Berry and Blanchett enunciate together.