Tuesday 18 October 2022

Alternate Best Actor 2016: Joe Seo in Spa Night

 Joe Seo did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying David in Spa Night.

Spa Night depicts a young man in a conservative working-class Korean American family dealing with his sexuality while working at a spa. 

Joe Seo may be known by some as the least dynamic character in Cobra Kai, a character who began as a bully, stayed a bully and continues to be a bully. So it is interesting to see an actor in such a limited role getting to play the lead in a film about self-exploration. That journey though is one I think characterized more so by observation and reaction here than someone getting involved in a particular scenario. Much of the character of David's dialogue is perfunctory with more so the focus being on moments of key interactions and reactions. On the surface, Seo gives an entirely respectable performance. He's believable in the way we see him passively interact with his family, withdrawn more often than not as they take more of the action, even when it is dealing with David's future. Seo provides a convincing energy of a very young man who hasn't really matured to the point of personal action one way or another. Speaking of one way or another, we see the same idea within the character's exploration of his sexuality. It is an aspect that is shown in moments of behavior more than spoken thought. Whether this is him very much playing into a game of "gay chicken", taking nude photos of himself, or take more than a few glances at the nude bodies of many of his customers. 

Seo's work does effectively internalize the sense of the character going through a personal conflict of sorts that conveys someone who isn't exactly conflicted over his sexuality in terms of his own personal belief, but rather in terms of within his state of his family. Whenever he takes "action" Seo's performance presents as almost an instinctual reaction, where there isn't any hesitation whatsoever in the moment, and as the man wholly just believing that should what he should be doing in the moment. That is in stark contrast to the rest of his performance where Seo's performance is in this uneasy state of uncertainty. Seo's performance here I will say is limited within the overall approach of the film which leaves so much unsaid. And while I think a lot can be done in silence, I wouldn't quite say that Seo's work is on the level of a truly great performance of that ilk. It is a good performance though that does work in creating the sense of the character's journey even when that journey really is just all in his expressions and in his eyes. His face creates the sense of the man just containing it all within himself and moving along within his family's structure, never quite breaking it, though going with all his passions when it appears he is given the chance to. While I don't think this is a great performance, it is a good performance where he does find enough intimate emotions to convey the key elements of his character. At the very least it proves that Seo is probably capable of more than just the very generalized bully pompous swagger that defines his best-known role. 

63 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Hosseini
2. Asano
3. Siddiqui
4. Dano
5. Seo

Matt Mustin said...

1. Hosseini
2. Asano
3. Siddiqui
4. Dano
5. Seo

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

1. Hosseini
2. Asano
3. Siddiqui
4. Dano
5. Seo


1. Abe
2. Titieni
3. Lahti
4. Cheadle
5. Leaud

Lucas Saavedra said...

1. Hosseini
2. Siddiqui
3. Asano
4. Dano
5. Seo

1. Abe
2. Lahti
3. Titieni
4. Cheadle
5. Leaud

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Creed III trailer.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Well the Rocky Series has the highest batting average of about any series with more than three films, though the plot here seems to most resemble Rocky V in terms of the opponent aka the only Rocky film I don't like, but perhaps this can be Rocky V done correctly. The trailer itself was solid enough, Majors definitely could be a good antagonist, and it will be interesting to see Jordan's potential as a director. The last bit being though also a bit concerning only because actor debuts often can overdirected, but hopefully that is not the case.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
Tell us your ranks of 2016 nominees in each category:

Song
1. "Audition (The Fools Who Dream)" - La La Land
2. "City of Stars" - La La Land
3. "How Far I'll Go" - Moana
4. "The Empty Chair" - Jim: The James Foley Story
5. "Can't Stop the Feeling!" - Trolls

Original Score
1. Jackie
2. La La Land
3. Moonlight
4. Lion
5. Passengers

Sound Mixing
1. Hacksaw Ridge
2. Arrival
3. Rogue One
4. 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
5. La La Land

Sound Editing
1. Arrival
2. Hacksaw Ridge
3. Deepwater Horizon
4. Sully
5. La La Land

Editing
1. Hacksaw Ridge
2. Arrival
3. Hell or High Water
4. La La Land
5. Moonlight

Special Visual Effects
1. Doctor Strange
2. Kubo and the Two Strings
3. The Jungle Book
4. Deep Water Horizon
5. Rogue One

Makeup and Hairstyling
1. Star Trek Beyond
2. A Man Called Ove
3. Suicide Squad

Costume
1. Jackie
2. Allied
3. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
4. La La Land
5. Florence Foster Jenkins

Production Design
1. La La Land
2. Hail Caesar!
3. Arrival
4. Fantastic Beasts
5. Passengers

Cinematography
1. Silence
2. Arrival
3. La La Land
4. Moonlight
5. Lion

International Feature Film
1. The Salesman (Iran)
2. Toni Erdmann (Germany)
3. A Man Called Ove (Sweden)
4. Land of Mine (Denmark)
5. Tanna (Australia?)

Adapted Screenplay
1. Arrival
2. Moonlight
3. Fences
4. Lion
5. Hidden Figures

Original Screenplay
1. The Lobster
2. Hell or High Water
3. Manchester by the Sea
4. La La Land
5. 20th Century Women

Supporting Actress
1. Viola Davis
2. Nicole Kidman
3. Michelle Williams
4. Naomie Harris
5. Octavia Spencer

Supporting Actor
1. Jeff Bridges
2. Mahershala Ali
3. Dev Patel
4. Kucas Hedges
5. Michael Shannon

Lead Actress
1. Isabelle Huppert
2. Natalie Portman
3. Ruth Negga
4. Emma Stone
5. Meryl Streep

Lead Actor
1. Casey Affleck
2. Viggo Mortensen
3. Denzel Washington
4. Andrew Garfield
5. Ryan Gosling

Director
1. Denis Villeneuve
2. Mel Gibson
3. Damien Chazelle
4. Barry Jenkins
5. Kenneth Lonergan

Picture
1. Arrival
2. Hell or High Water
3. Hacksaw Ridge
4. Moonlight
5. Manchester by the Sea
6. La La Land
7. Fences
8. Lion
9. Hidden Figures

And what are your ranks?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1.Hosseini
2.Asano
3.Siddiqui
4.Dano
5.Seo

1.Abe
2.Lahti
3.Titieni
4.Cheadle
5.Léaud

I'd say that Spa Night's MVP was Youn Ho Cho as the father. Granted it was the most showy role, but that car scene was nevertheless my favorite.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: If you've seen it, what are your overall thoughts on Donald Trump's The Art of the Deal: The Movie and Johnny Depp's performance in it?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Youn Ho Cho.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Did you ever watch the 2011 At the Movies revival with Ignatiy Vishnevetsky and Christy Lemire?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

4 - (Gives a good performance that is even more limited than Seo's in terms of perspective and even dialogue. His performance though ques into quite effectively into the emotions of more of the technically more extreme moments quite naturally, and manages to give each moment where he is the focus, or even not some emotional resonance just by the blunt of honesty of his work.)

Tony:

Some episodes yes. I thought they were overall fine, but didn't quite have the ideal dynamic down. I actually thought Scott and Phillips were the best non-Siskel and Ebert reviewing duo, and that includes Ebert and Roeper.

Anonymous said...

Louis how would you rank the Siskel and Ebert related reviewing duos?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Siskel & Ebert





*huge gap*



Phillips & Scott
Ebert & Roeper
Ebert & Guests
Roeper & Phillips
Roeper & Guests
Vishnevetsky & Lemire





*Mariana Trench*







Lyons & Mankiewicz

Calvin Law said...

Glad you liked him anyway!

1. Hosseini
2. Asano
3. Siddiqui
4. Dano
5. Seo

Calvin Law said...

Also apparently Mulligan is going Supporting for She Said which by all accounts is some serious category fraud. *Sigh*

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Seo's and Gianni DeCenzo's performances in Cobra Kai?

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

1. Siddiqui
2. Hosseini
3. Asano
4. Dano
5. Seo

1. Abe
2. Lahti
3. Cheadle
4. Titiene
5. Leaud

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Two years without any category fraud was probably a lot to ask.

Tahmeed:

Seo's performance is about a thankless as they come in Cobra Kai, his one note is jerk, and I think he's fine in playing that note, but just that. Really Thomas F. Wilson is kind of the gold standard for such a role and Seo's not Biff good, he's okay I guess but doesn't make too much of an impact either way.

DeCenzo's performance is one that always wavers for between working and turning the show more so into something from the Disney channel or an old Nickelodeon show. I think more than anything it is situational as the performance itself is mostly consistent in terms of playing towards kind of a singular note the less than confident "wise guy". What matters is where that performance is featured in a given scene, and some moments of that are better realized than others just depending if his exact performance fits into a scene as it more or less is the same idea regardless. So I guess my criticism is he probably could bring a bit more variation at times, although to be completely fair I think some of his latter scenes with Bertrand give a little more nuance though not too much.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1.Hosseini
2.Siddiqui
3.Asano
4.Dano
5.Seo

1.Abe
2.Lahti
3.Titieni
4.Cheadle
5.Léaud

Oliver Menard said...

1. Hosseini
2. Siddiqui
3. Dano
4. Asano
5. Seo

Tim said...

Shaggy:

Visual Effects

3) Deepwater Horizon
2) Rogue One
1) Kubo and the Two Strings



Sound Editing

4) La La Land
3) Deepwater Horizon
2) Hacksaw Ridge
1) Arrival



Sound Mixing

5) Rogue One
4) La La Land
3) 13 Hours
2) Arrival
1) Hacksaw Ridge



Make-Up

2) Suicide Squad
1) Star Trek Beyond



Editing

5) Hell or High Water
4) Moonlight
3) La La Land
2) Hacksaw Ridge
1) Arrival



Song

5) How Far I'll Go
4) Can't Stop The Feeling
3) The Empty Chair
2) City of Stars
1) Audition



Score

5) Passengers
4) Lion
3) Moonlight
2) Jackie
1) La La Land



Costumes

4) Fantastic Beasts
3) Florence Foster Jenkins
2) Jackie
1) La La Land



Production Design

5) Passengers
4) Fantastic Beasts
3) Arrival
2) Hail, Ceasr!



Cinematography

5) Moonlight
4) Lion
3) Arrival
2) La La Land
1) Silence



Original Screenplay

5) 20th Century Women
4) The Lobster
3) Manchester by the Sea
2) Hell or High Water
1) La La Land



Adapted Screenplay

5) Moonlight
4) Lion
3) Hidden Figures
2) Arrival
1) Fences



Supporting Actress

5) Michelle Williams
4) Naomie Harris
3) Octavia Spencer
2) Nicole Kidman
1) Viola Davis



Supporting Actor

4) Lucas Hedges
3) Dev Patel
2) Mahershala Ali
1) Jeff Bridges



Lead Actress

4) Meryl Streep
3) Isabelle Huppert
2) Emma Stone
1) Natalie Portman



Lead Actor

5) Andrew Garfield
4) Casey Affleck
3) Viggo Mortensen
2) Ryan Gosling
1) Denzel Washington



Director

5) Kenneth Lonergan
4) Barry Jenkins
3) Denis Villeneuve
2) Mel Gibson
1) Damien Chazelle



Picture

9) Moonlight
8) Hidden Figures
7) Manchester by the Sea
6) Lion
5) Fences
4) Hell Or High Water
3) Arrival
2) Hacksaw Ridge
1) La La Land


Seriously, i hate Moonlight

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Arrival
2. Moonlight
3-8. A gelatinous blob of "it's okay, I guess"
8,392. Hacksaw Ridge.

1. Jenkins
2. Viellenueve
3. Chazelle
4. Lonnergan
5. Mel Gibson (I'm sorry, but just because direction is more "dynamic" doesn't mean it's actually good.)

1. Mortensen
2. Washington
3. Affleck
4. Gosling
5. Garfield (Wring kid died. Uh, I mean, wrong performance nominated)

1. Portman
2. Stone
3. Huppert
4. Negga
5. Streep

1. Ali
2. Patel
3. Bridges
4. Hedges
5. Shannon

1. Davis
2. Kidman
3. Harris
4. Spencer
5. Williams

I find it depressing that Hacksaw Ridge is still well-liked in 2022. You may as well prop up God's Not Dead.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Who do you think is a better actor as a whole, Ben Stiller or Adam Sandler?

I find it to be an especially interesting topic, as even though they get dismissively lumped together in regards to their output, to me they are like 2 sides of the same coin: the former is more consistent as a comedian, while the former proves more successful when handling dramatic material.

Mitchell Murray said...

There are a number of conversations regarding faith based films, and religious representation in general, to have around "Hacksaw Ridge". I've rarely been one to stir such debate, though, and I've learned from this blog alone how the wrong choice of words can be misconstrued/become inflammatory. So at the risk of beating a dead horse even further, I'll simply reiterate that I like the film overall (despite some questionable aspects), with Garfield being the chief reason why.

As for "Moonlight", I only watched the whole film once, so maybe my thoughts could be updated. That said, I mostly follow suit with a lot of reviewers here; Ali's great, Harris is uneven but eventually quite good, and the film itself peaks in the first third but is beautiful from a technical perspective.

I also believe my thoughts on the 2016 oscar field are quite documented. It's a very strong year (best actor being particularly outstanding), and there's not much I could add to lists/rankings I'm sure I've submitted elsewhere. What I can link to, however, is this musical tribute I found regarding the oscars. I wouldn't recommend looking at this channel's alternate lineups (category fraud and odd selections abound), but their oscar videos are still decent.

2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8SQE1vTe_Q&ab_channel=GregNJ720

Mitchell Murray said...

Ytrewq: From what I've gauged, Sandler's achieved the higher peaks between the two ("Punch Drunk Love" and "Uncut Gems"), which are cases of him finding the exact roles/film makers to test his range. Like you said, Stiller is more consistent and has offered some legitimately enjoyable work, though is arguably still limited in his overall output. I'd say Sandler's the "better" actor when properly utilized, and based on his best work, a lot of his filmography could be seen as lost potential.

Shaggy Rogers said...

I watched the documentary Tower and loved it. Thanks for the recommendation Louis.

Louis: After seeing it, I was wondering if Tower was adapted into a movie and was directed by Peter Berg in the 2010s, what would the cast be?

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

Sandler purely based on the higher heights, as his dramatic work is above any work from both of them. Yes Stiller doesn't have as low of lows as Sandler's worst comedic performance, but Uncut Gems shows a far greater potential overall than any of Stiller's work in either genre. Even though Stiller in general is a better comedic actor.

Shaggy:

Glad you loved it, seeing appreciation for lesser seen films due to any of my reviews is always the thing I take the most joy out of it.

I'd probably avoid Berg because I wouldn't want Wahlberg as Allen Crum.

Claire Wilson James: Sophia Lillis
Houston McCoy: Harris Dickinson
Aleck Hernandez Jr.: Wilmer Valderrama
Allen Crum: Rory Cochrane
Rita Starpattern: Cailee Spaeny
Neal Spelce: Henry Thomas
John Artly Fox: Ed Oxenbould

Anonymous said...

Louis to go back to 81 for one more thing what would be your ten best scenes and best acted scenes from 1981?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

No overlap to spread the wealth:

Scenes:

1. Eric's final race - Chariots of Fire
2. Final Charge - Gallipoli
3. Truck chase - Raiders of the Lost Ark
4. Diving Deep - Das Boot
5. Jack is too late - Blow Out
6. "Let's Misbehave" - Pennies From Heaven
7. Final Confrontation - Thief
8. Eric reads from Isaiah - Chariots of Fire
9. Wolf Nazi home invasion - An American Werewolf in London
10. Attack the convoy - The Road Warrior

Although a year with an overabundance of a great scenes as there are plenty of great scenes even from films I wouldn't necessarily call great like "O Fortuna" from Excalibur, the Medusa fight from Clash of the Titans or Wilford Brimley solving everything in Absence of Malice.

Acted:

1. Subway - Possession
2. Backseat - The Long Good Friday
3. Merlin tricks Morgana - Excalibur
4. Leo's Threat - Thief
5. Cutter's Monologue - Cutter's Way
6. Arthur and Hobson's final moments - Arthur
7. Celebrating Harold's Win - Chariots of Fire
8. Sinking Ship - Das Boot
9. Final Rejection - Pixote
10. Harold and the headmasters - Chariots of Fire

Matt Mustin said...

Werewolf by Night is kinda fun, but also completely inconsequential. Feels like a one-shot comic issue, which is sort of the point. Great aesthetic, for the most part.

Bernal-3.5(His natural charisma carries him through, because there's really not much here for him.)

Donnelly-2.5

Harris-4(Delectable)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I saw E.T. at the theater today. Jesus fucking Christ, even when they stuffed it into the smallest auditorium they had, it is so magical on the big screen. I think Thomas should be reviewed for 1982. More controversially… so should Robert MacNaughton. He snuck up on me this viewing. That kid was internalizing A LOT in the background.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Who were your favourite guest hosts of the Roeper & Guest era? Personally, I thought Aisha Tyler was the most charismatic and had the most interesting dynamic with Roeper, while I enjoyed John Mellencamp in a "so bad it's good" sort of way.

Glenn said...

Luke, What are your lineup suggestions for 1969 Lead.

Luke Higham said...

Laurence Olivier - The Dance Of Death
Max Von Sydow - The Passion Of Anna
Alan Bates (Oliver Reed) - Women In Love
Nicol Williamson - Hamlet
Robert Forster - Medium Cool
Jean-Louis Trintignant - My Night At Maud's
Rudolf Hrušínský - The Cremator
Marlon Brando - Burn!
Jean Gabin (Alain Delon) - The Sicilian Clan
Tetsuo Abe - Boy

Given the low number of 4.5/5s in the ranking at the moment, needs to be a 10 lineup.

8000S said...

Luke: For 1969, maybe also Nakadai for Goyokin? He's said that his performance in said film is one of his favorites.

Luke Higham said...

8000S: Thanks, I'll replace Abe with Nakadai.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Tyler was fun, and I think she tiptoed less than a lot of the other celebrity guest hosts. Though I also enjoyed Harold Ramis though you can tell his discomfort when giving a negative review. I'd more or less agree on Mellencamp. Fred Willard was similar, in that you didn't get much of a review but it was entertaining. Didn't think Jay Leno added much. Though not a fan of his films I've found, I did like Kevin Smith's enthusiasm and his point of contention with Roeper over Jersey Girl. The rest I think went from fine to forgettable.

Out of the critics again I think Phillips and Scott were the best in terms of articulating an opinion *and* doing it enough of a dynamic way for tv. I also actually liked Robert Wilonsky, not for many of his opinions or even his logic sometimes, but I think he had the best dynamic with Roeper in terms of getting him to actually debate a film more ardently.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on the scene from Strangers on a Train where Bruno kills Miriam.

Also, what roles could you see Robert Walker in if he hadn't passed away so soon?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Speaking of Strangers on a Train, any chance of you checking out Do Revenge on Netflix soon? Camila Mendes and especially Maya Hawke are quite good in it.

Calvin Law said...

A kind request for anyone seeing Banshees of Inisherin this weekend to not give any spoilers for us unlucky ones who won't be able to see it yet!

Omar Franini said...

1. Hosseini
2. Asano
3. Dano
4. Siddiqui
5. Seo

1. Abe
2. Cheadle
3. Titieni
4. Lahti
5. Léaud

Anonymous said...

Hey guys.
Tell which actors and movies will be in alternate supporting 2016?
I didn't want to rush Louis. The problem is that at the end of November and December I will be very busy and have no time to watch.

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: We don't know yet.

Anonymous said...

Matt: Well, then tell me which ones would they be for you?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The House of the Dragon finale leaked, and I won't spoil anything, but I thought it was great, with one particular change from the source material working entirely for me. Emma D'Arcy MVP.

Aidan Pittman said...

Saw Triangle of Sadness, which definitely doesn't feel as deep as it makes itself out to be, but honestly the absurdness of it all I felt it made entertaining enough to get me engaged for the most part. The cast playing into the bizarreness of it all certainly helped things. I'd say Östlund's abilities as a director where more in tune for this kind of film than his writing is.

Matthew Montada said...

Aidan: ratings for the cast of Triangle Of Sadness?

Marcus said...

Louis: After you finish it, your House of the Dragon cast ranking and your thoughts on your ten favorite performances?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Which 5 to 10 actors do you wish had a more prominent career. This can include performers that had the Oscar win curse such as F. Murray Abraham or Adrien Brody.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Thoughts on the following scene from In Bruges? I've always loved how Harry objects to Ken slandering his kids (and any future ones), yet technically does so himself seconds later.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDoSwd9r2s

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: In reference to the above scene, your thoughts on the 'I want to be a dead man' scene from In Bruges, especially in terms of the performances?

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Yeah, I'd generally agree with that. I'd rate Vishnevetsky & Lemire way higher than you would, though, their disagreements were not as funny as Siskel & Ebert's but in their own way more thought-provoking for me. Their reviews of Shame and Film Socialisme, for example, got me thinking a lot about ambiguity in art and opened up my mind to other concepts that not even S&E really delved into.

Thanks for mentioning Wilonsky, I'd honestly never heard of him before.

With all that being said, your thoughts on this Slate article on Siskel & Ebert? http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/03/siskel_and_ebert_an_oral_history_.html

Mitchell Murray said...

Bryan: That is just a great dialogue driven scene, from a film that has a lot of them. The conversation starts off quite tense, with Ken being so sullen before finding the courage and passion to defend his choice/Ray's future. Harry, meanwhile, is both legitimately menacing and also hilarious in his befuddlement, especially in his "you were down in the park?" line. Of course, the scene then switches to being hilarious, thanks to the deadpan vulgarity of both characters. All of these observations, of course, are thanks to Gleeson and Fiennes being so on target here.

Tahmeed: Now that scene from "In Bruges" might be the best example of the film's brilliant tonal blend. There's little moments of comedy like Ray petulantly slapping his legs about still being in the city, and also Ken's sheepish "nothing" while hiding his gun. There's also the core of the movie's drama, though, which is the grief one man faces after taking the life of an innocent. In that regard, it's a great acting sequence for both Farrell and Gleeson; The former being downright heartbreaking in his grief, and the latter being so genuine in Ken's empathy/support.

Sorry for the extended or unprompted responses, but as a fellow "In Bruges" lover, I'll take any chance I get to discuss the film.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: No need to apologize, with Banshees of Inisherin coming out, discussions and comparisons to In Bruges are practically inevitable now.

Louis: I just found your thoughts on the scene I asked about, disregard my earlier comment.

Bryan L. said...

Banshees of Inisherin is the EXACT reason I brought up In Bruges, haha.

Anonymous said...

Louis: How do you think Brendan Gleeson would have done as different versions of Christopher Walken's and Woody Harrelson's characters in Seven Psychopaths and Three Billboards respectively?

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Cell (2016) and you guys I can't believe how bad this is. I don't know if I can say it's the worst Stephen King adaptation because there's like thousands of them and most of them suck, but it's fascinatingly, impressively awful.

Cusack-1(Never seen anyone so bored during a zombie apocalypse)

Jackson-1.5(Unlike Cusack, Jackson has an undeniable charisma and screen presence to a degree where I can never really find him completely dull, but honestly he's also completely sleepwalking here and has some very awkward moments all over the place)

Fuhrman-1.5

Teague-1

Keach-2.5(God bless him)

Anthony Reynolds-Wiseau(Drop-dead hilarious, definitely not on purpose)




Aidan Pittman said...

Matthew: Eh, I don't think I'll do cast ratings anymore. Just gets messy and a bit mundane for myself personally. Though I would say that de Leon, Harrelson and Burić are the standouts.

Matthew Montada said...

Aidan: sounds fair. No worries.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Pretty much one of the all time great Hitchcockian scenes where it is specifically with the voyeuristic approach, as we know what Bruno is doing, the scenes itself is more so the process where there is tension rather than traditional suspense. It isn't a chase even rather Miriam seems intrigued by him throughout his stalking, stalking that is brilliantly and creepily handled by Walker's performance and the way Hitchcock is playing with our expectation the whole time, using Bruno as a monster in the scene, particularly his lurking shadow in the tunnel of love that is the trick start to put you at ease before Bruno's sudden strike. The strike itself possibly being the greatest bit of cinematography by Robert Burks, from Miriam being lit by the unseen Bruno's lighter, then the cut to the obscured murder itself of the glasses shot, that is masterful filmmaking. Twisting the moment in a way that makes it both more and less grotesque by not just making it simple murder, but rather messing with the moment turning Bruno literally into a malformed creature as he kills.

Charlie Castle (The Big Knife)
Tom Rath (The Man In The Gray Flannel Suit)
Richard Dadier (The Blackboard Jungle)

Tahmeed:

At some point definitely.

Luke:

No particular order:

F. Murray Abraham
Nicol Williamson (His Own Fault)
Tom Courtenay (His own choice)
Paul Scofield (His own choice)
Ray Wise
Roy Scheider (After the 70's)
Scott Wilson
Yaphet Kotto
John Lone
Matthias Schoenaerts

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I'll say in general to all no one ever has to apologize for bringing up In Bruges. Anyway one of the great scenes of the film, which for me is basically just great scenes. I love though for the contrast of Gleeson's emphasis on being subdued in Ken's attempt to mediate the situation, while Fiennes is all intensity. A hilarious scene for every line that comes out of Harry's mouth, delivered so perfectly by Fiennes, "Ken would you do me a favor and becomes Ray's psychiatrist, No I believe what I asked you was could you blow his fucking head off for me". Harry's complete indifference to Ray with his dismissive "we're all suicidal". When Ken admits he stopped Ray from killing himself, the mouth/teeth acting on Fiennes as just a slight switch you can see the bit of increased rage as he realizes what Ken admitted to. My favorite line though is the "we were down in the Park" because so often in conversations or stories people will include some including extraneous bit of info that doesn't tell you anything, and I love the verbal rage from Fiennes in his confused exasperation. Again though it is the tonal brilliance of the work by when Harry is talking about Ray's crime, his conviction on what he would've done is the absolute truth from Fiennes (as we see by the end of the film) as strict judgment, against really Gleeson's depiction of Ken's sympathetic grace as he tries to argue for redemption. And has been said the whole "cunt" exchange is perfection.

Tony:

For me the greatest of the pairing of Ebert and Siskel wasn't just the depth of their conversations (which they definitely did do that even within the limits of the format) it was how dynamic they were together. The key which was missing, to all other pairings, was the genuine sibling style rivalry they shared where you could always see this blend of respect with also you could say a more pretty wish to one up the other, it was that perfect blend that made them so great together. They could hate each other, but you always knew they loved each other, which while I wish it could be replicated, I understand why it can't be. And that history pretty much lays out that dynamic the two shared, which I think will always be one of a kind.

Anonymous:

Well you can never replace peak Walken, he's just too idiosyncratic. Having said I think Gleeson would've also been great in an Irish setting, an American accent has never been his strong suit. I don't really see him in Harrelson's role, even in an Irish setting, he's just not quite the right type for it, not that that he'd be bad.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: There are rumours that Denzel Washington might be the lead for PTA's next film which is set in 1940s LA.