Monday 5 September 2022

Alternate Best Actor 1981: Sam Neill in Possession

Sam Neill did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Mark in Possession.

Possession is supposedly about the fallout after a woman Anna (Isabella Adjani) asks her husband for a divorce...but that hardly gives you a sense of things now does it. 

Sam Neill plays the man, Mark who we see in his professional shady world briefly, before just as briefly having a harsh conversation with his wife who wants to leave him, he then seems completely gone over the hill in drink, then he is a loving father disturbed his son seemingly being mistreated by his wife then he confronts her however while doing so is sinisterly and intensely going back and forth in a rocking chair that is far too swift and dangerous than the recommended rocking chair use. Now the purpose of that rambling description is to give you at least a minor understanding of the experience of watching the film and the introduction of the character of Mark. I suppose though one must in turn ask about Neill's performance which defies traditional logic in many ways. As the extremes here are also represented in Neill's performance without traditional pacing involved. Neill though is convincing as the man is just a bit taken aback by his wife's seemingly sudden request and the proper cold professional disposition when we see him discussing his enigmatic work. As sudden, as it is Neill certainly shows the extreme gaunt expressions of a man over the bend as he falls into despair. He brings warmth suddenly when trying to see what is going on with his son and projects a realistic concern. Then immediately has full-on brutal intensity as he confronts Anna. Of course, though this is without that connective tissue you'd expect in performance. The rub, as is a term often used, is obviously in the disconcerting design of the film, so judgment becomes a bit trickier as the work defies convention. 

All performances though are contextual in some sense and therefore what the context here becomes is essential in looking at Neill's work. The real question becomes then is Neill compelling or successful in depicting this unusual extreme? Well largely so I would say, and the film does begin to calm down...a bit when it comes to Mark's emotional state. Although the strangeness hardly goes away as we see Mark perhaps trying to figure out the situation that only becomes stranger. This includes Mark confronting Anna's supposed lover who himself seems more interested in Mark than Anna in these confrontations even if in a sadistic sort of way. Neill's performance though manages to realize something within them in the confusion and frustrations as the man presents far more riddles than solutions. Confusing things further is Mark finding that his son's teacher Helen looks just like Anna, more or less. There as he tries to raise his son alone and interacts with her again you suddenly get a kind of reality from Neill. Just a kind of thought as there is fully a man who seems to be dealing with the truth of it, as he might be too accepting of it all, although there is something compelling in Neill's quietly emotional moments in crafting a man seemingly accepting this sudden bent reality with this new woman who looks almost like his wife. At the same time though Neill still makes Mark occasionally equally bent in some of his reactions towards others, such as an overly loving delivery to the man reporting more disturbing news about Anna. 

Neill is effective as he is in his own blend of insanity, but I'll admit it really is but a warm up act for when the film shifts focus closer on Anna/Adjani. Adjani's performance is completely insane yet utterly transfixing to the point all other elements of the film are overshadowed in comparison. In one easy comparison, there is a moment of a freak-out by Adjani at a certain point that is absolutely unforgettable. Neill also gets such a scene, though while it isn't forgettable, it doesn't quite leave as strong of a mark, probably the best moment of it is Neill's blissful grin after it is over. Where the film goes at a certain point isn't about logic it is about insanity and a whole insane notion. There are tangibles kind of, but to say anything makes sense in an obvious way would be quite wrong. Neill's performance, as was in the earliest scenes, is basically a vortex of emotional and physical extremes. One moment he's full ferocity of violence to the next he's a man whimpering as crawling in agonizing pain. Every switch as such is as extreme as the extremes themselves. What Neill's performance though does do is actualize them to some extent in that at the very least it is captivating to see him perform the insanity of these moments, even if it is a bit of "take what you will from them" at a certain point. One does ponder what if Mark had been portrayed wholly straight as a complete foil to what Adjani is doing, however that isn't what we get here. We get a performance more befitting the overall madness of the film by being completely mad itself. This including Neill's work at the end of the film as Mark's seeming clone where he is truly creepy in the completely joyful smile that is twisted in the "perfection" of his state. This is a performance that is all over the place and over the top, both matching the nature of the film's intention. Does it work, yes, in at least my reaction, although even then perhaps not to the degree of Adjani's work that truly embraces the madness in a way that somehow elevates psychotic ramblings to a kind of genius. 

114 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Lord Of The Rings premiere if you've seen it.

Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast. Can't wait for Adjani.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Eh the first two episodes I didn't think were terrible, I just didn't think they were very good either. All the money in the world can't makeup for a weak script and shaky direction. There's a charisma deficiency in the cast, outside of Clark, and because of that and the writing none of the other characters stood out at all to me. Additionally technically the digital photography just gives everything too glossy and really too fake feeling of a look. If anything it goes to show again of really how much credit Jackson and company deserve for the original trilogy. The story is where I think it was most lacking because the characters were so thin and really it fails to give a sense of the world. And I think it would've benefitted from maybe taking the approach of starting small and going big, you know the structure of both LOTR and The Hobbit as novels. Didn't hate it but was decidedly unimpressed.

Bennent - 3.5(A curious lothario in again playing his scenes as though he is more intrigued by Mark, though that does cast a fascinating sort of color to his moments to be sure.)

Adjani - 5(Well on one end she gives a very sincere and earnest portrayal of the "good" version of her character. This in being sweet and honestly nice in just this oh so affection way. She is perfect on that side, too perfect, however too perfect in a way that is hard to question. This is against her other main performance. Where actually you do get more of through line within Adjani's own performance. This as she begins with this sort of defensive defiance as she kind of seems to be avoiding Mark's questions and Adjani shows a woman hiding something by just not being at all present. Avoiding the interaction in a way though a way that seems to hide something deeper. That thing that we find out is some deeply disturbing madness. Adjani being absolutely brilliant in portraying the derangement of the character. This mixture of these moments of kind of an alluring naivety that suddenly and brutally segues towards vicious psychopathy. These moments of the switch are so naturally portrayed in Adjani's work that it is truly off-putting in the best of ways. She is downright chilling in providing the curious derangement because she brings this particularly penetrating mix of this kind of misplaced loving affection with the most aggressive form of violence. That is without mentioning the subway sequence which is honestly is a scene of scenes honestly with it all being about her performance selling the moment. She goes all in, and is just absolutely transfixing in creating the sequence in a way that is both unnatural yet painfully natural. There is something truly disturbing yet brutally human in it still. There's a very real mind breaking in Adjani's portrayal of it as she physically and seemingly mentally puts every ounce of herself into the scene and it is absolutely unforgettable. And from that Adjani gives sense to the rest of her work of a woman defined by her shattered state that is this odd and chilling mixture of psychosis. Adjani's work is truly unexpected in that I had no idea what to expect from moment to moment, other than that she would be absolutely captivating in every second of the portrayal of this demented state, and somehow create this natural internalized logic in that illogical insanity. In a way I'd bluntly say she is what makes the film work at all, and worth watching because she elevates the ideas to that genius. It is amazing work, and kudos to CANNES for recognizing a truly risky performance in the best of ways.)

Calvin Law said...

Neill is very good but I agree, Adjani is just insane/insanely brilliant in this. Knew you'd love her work.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpWYtXtmEFQ

Also, glad you loved Adjani.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top 10 pieces by Morricone, Williams and Zimmer.

And when's the earliest for your updated Oscar predictions because all the probable contenders from the September festivals will have been screened by the 12th.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Haven't checked out Posession yet, but this review really compels me to watch it, even if its description makes it look like something that goes deep into fever dream territory.

Anonymous said...

Question for everyone, is there any one film from the upcoming awards season that you hope will fail.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I'm not one who usually wants filmmakers to fail unless they never filled me with confidence to begin with such as Adam McKay or David O. Russell. So to answer your question, Amsterdam. As much as I love Bale, I don't see any higher than a 4 and AMPAS cannot afford to make mistakes these days, especially in the Lead categories.

Luke Higham said...

Oh and my Best Actor prediction is:
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Hugh Jackman - The Son
Austin Butler - Elvis
Colin Farrell - The Banshees Of Inisherin (Gleeson will be campaigned in Supporting and I reckon his wait for a 1st nomination will finally end)
Bill Nighy - Living

Alt. Christian Bale - Amsterdam, Adam Driver - White Noise (The response has been mildly positive) and Kelvin Harrison Jr. - Chevalier

Unless both SAG and BAFTA go for either of them, I'm not putting stock in Song and Park until then.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Based on the action and character moments, your thoughts on the infiltration/'betrayal' sequence from RRR.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the trailers for Wendell & Wild and Armageddon Time.

Luke Higham said...

And All Quiet On The Western Front.

Mitchell Murray said...

Luke: It's interesting how in the initial line up you mentioned (Jackman, Butler, Farrell, Nighy and Fraser), four of those actors would be first time nominees.

Hell, its even a little strange that Jackman only has one nod, given he's delivered his two best performances in the years since "Les Miserables".

RatedRStar said...

To be fair nowadays you do get quite a lot of first time acting nominees each year, average tends to be around 8 or 9 which is a lot.

Luke Higham said...

I didn't mention this before but I have enough faith in Zeller to believe that the teaser trailer for The Son will have done the finished film a disservice.

Shaggy Rogers said...

I really hope that Neon makes a great campaign for Song. Snubbed by Parasite is the perfect narrative to convince voters.

Shaggy Rogers said...

I saw They All Laughed and loved it. For me it was the last big Bogdanovich film.
Because Bogdanovich managed to make the best multi-stories romantic movie that would become popular years later with Love Actually, He's Just Not That Into You and Garry Marshall's latest holiday films. However, the film was brave to show that love is a marriage between fantasy and melancholy accompanied by a great cast formed by veteran and new actors. It is unfortunate that the Stratten tragedy ruined the film and the director.
Even if They All Laughed doesn't win over Louis and you at least give a chance to Hepburn, cast and screenplay.

Hepburn - 5
Gazzara - 4
Ritter - 3.5
Stratten - 2.5
Hansen - 3

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Say your 81 Louis Top 5 Director predictions:
1. Steven Spielberg - Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot
3. Brian De Palma - Blow Out
4. Peter Weir - Gallipoli
5. Michael Mann Dream - Thief

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Well completely true, though I'd say the cinematography weakness is even beyond *just* the color grading, though that is a big part of it. It is obvious Marvel wants a specific tv look that nothing is allowed to stray far from it, so they don't focus on the cinematography that much. I do have to say, though I definitely don't hold Pacific Rim's cinematography in that high of regard, particularly when Skyfall is a blockbuster shot on digital.

Luke:

I'll do a new set after the 12th.

Morricone:

1. "Gabriel's Oboe"/"On Earth As It is Heaven" - The Mission
2. "The Showdown" - For a Few Dollars More
3. "Ecstasy of Gold" - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
4. "Man With a Harmonica" - Once Upon a Time in the West
5. "The Story of a Soldier" - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
6. "L'Arena" - The Mercenary
7. "Once Upon a Time in the West" - Once Upon Time in the West
8. "The Trio" - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
9. "Morton" - Once Upon a Time in the West
10. "Deborah's Theme" - Once Upon a Time in America

Williams:

1. "Main Theme" - Schindler's List
2. "Blown to Bits" - Jaws
3. "Duel of the Fates" - The Phantom Menace
4. "Main Theme" - Jurassic Park
5. "The Imperial March" - The Empire Strikes Back
6. "Prelude and Main title March" - Superman: The Movie
7. "Main Theme" - Catch Me If You Can
8. "Raiders March" - Raiders of the Lost Ark
9. "Theme" - The Patriot
10. "Main Title" - Star Wars

HM: To the Grail motif from Lost Ark, which might be my single favorite bit of scoring from Williams period.

Zimmer:

1. "Journey to The Line" - The Thin Red Line
2. "Light" - The Thin Red Line
3. "The Barbarian Horde" - Gladiator
4. "Leave No Man Behind" - Black Hawk Down
5. "The Village" - The Thin Red Line
6. "The Lagoon" - The Thin Red Line
7. "King of Pride Rock" - The Lion King
8. "Supermarine" - Dunkirk
9. "No Time For Caution" - Interstellar
10. "Molossus" - Batman Begins

Tahmeed:

It's great action and I will say the film actually manages to get by with imperfect CGI for the animals because of the heightened tone of the whole thing makes it actually work. A scene of sheer intensity beyond that that builds to the confrontation that obviously has a different meaning once you see the whole film, however in the moment is potent in the sense of betrayal even within the fight of seeing the two of the natural friends coming to blows.

Luke:

Wendell & Wild looks properly Henry Selicky, and certainly interested to see whatever it is about, as that was largely just, here's more Selick animated horror, which I'm all in for.

Armageddon Time looks well shot, the performances all look like they have potential (Hopkins in particular of course) but even Hathaway and Strong (who in film terms I still don't hold in high regard). Looks potentially heavy handed, but again a trailer is going to focus on the most extreme moments, so interested to see what Gray is doing with this one.

All Quiet on The Western Front obviously was already masterfully adapted, but everything from the trailer suggests this could be another strong adaptation based on the atmosphere and intensity of the trailer.

Perfectionist said...

Honestly with The Banshees' reviews, it would be REALLY nice to see Farrell getting 2 fives this year, other being for After Yang. That is a phenomenal performance.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, in regards to my long delayed film viewings, I finally watched "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs" last night. As a long time fan of the Coen Brothers, it delivered a nice helping of the oddball tone, dark humour and honest pathos one would want in their films. And of course, Nelson and Waits are the MVPs, though I'd also mention that Bill Heck sort of resembles a young William Hurt.

Ranking of the stories:
1) The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
2) All Gold Canyon
3) The Mortal Remains
4) The Gal Who Got Rattled
5) Near Algodones
6) Meal Ticket

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

My personal ranking of the segments would be:

1. The Gal Who Got Rattled
2. All Gold Canyon
3. Meal Ticket
4. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
5. The Mortal Remains
6. Near Algodones

Emi Grant said...

Thought I'd chime in with my ranking of the segments as well.

1. All Gold Canyon
2. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
3. The Gal Who Got Rattled
4. Near Algodones
5. The Mortal Remains
6. Meal Ticket

Luke Higham said...

I hate to be wrong on this but The Son is getting mixed to negative responses.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Starting to think that The Son is a Jackman nomination and nothing else perhaps.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRRStar: I guess it will be Fraser or Butler's name on the trophy.

RatedRStar said...

I remember when I read the script for Don't Worry Darling earlier this year, ye I knew those meh reviews were coming lol.

8000S said...

Just read about Fraser bursting into tears of joy at Venice. After all the crap that he's gone through, it makes me happy to see him getting good roles. He was always so underrated in my book.

Tim said...

your Top 10 Peter Weir directing moments?

Anonymous said...

Luke, with confidence who do you think will get 5s this year.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
Alexander Skarsgård in The Northman
Song Kang-Ho in Broker
Park Hae-Il in Decision To Leave
Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson in The Banshees Of Inisherin
Bill Nighy in Living
Brendan Fraser in The Whale
And Mark Rylance for one of his 2 performances in The Outfit or The Phantom Of The Open

I think Leading Actress will have a stronger year than its counterpart)
Cate Blanchett in Tár (I sincerely hope this ends the wait for her 2nd)
Ana De Armas in Blonde
Taylor Russell in Bones & All

Louis Morgan said...

That's unfortunate news about The Son (though not overly surprising due to the trailer, though at least it doesn't sound like a complete disaster like Beautiful Boy), though it sounds like Jackman could still be in play, but in a far weaker position than expected.

Tim:

https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2021/11/alternate-best-actor-1955-danny-kaye-in.html

Those can be found there.

Luke Higham said...

The reception itself is reminding me more and more of Pieces Of A Woman (Though it's a dissimilar topic) than Beautiful Boy. Even one review compared it's last act to Von Trier's Antichrist.

Luke Higham said...

If Scorsese has KOTFM ready to go by the end of the year, I think Apple are complete fools not to release it.

Anonymous said...

Luke: and who do you think will get 5s in supporting this year.

Luke Higham said...

Barry Keoghan in The Banshees Of Inisherin
Anthony Hopkins in Armageddon Time
2 members of the Women Talking cast

Anonymous said...

I definitely wouldn't count out Ke Huy Quan.

Luke Higham said...

I would like for that to happen but I'm not yet entirely confident about it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Quan is like 90% going to be his win. I’m putting money on it.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis and everyone: So, this question's a bit off the beaten path, but here it goes...

A while back, I asked everyone here what they thought about steroid use among Hollywood actors; Specifically, their ethical implications regarding the user's health, and their personal implications among those under contract. Well, in that same vein, does anyone here have issues regarding hair transplants and/or related drug therapies? Just for personal context...while I'm not quite balding myself, my hair has receded/thinned a fair bit since my teens. I've gotten used to keeping it short, but there are definitely times I think about what I used to have.

Now personally, I echo my sentiments regarding PEDs, in that the celebrities who've received transplants (speculative or otherwise) are grown adults seemingly acting on their own free will. If you have the time, money and assurance, then it's not something I'll honestly look down on. It would be nice, however, if there was again more transparency with such procedures/medicines. To avoid/deny talking about them, whether intentional or not, adds to the widespread insecurity so many balding/thinning people face. It reflects a cultural ideal of living up to a virile, youthful image, an ideal that's frankly very superficial, all things considered. I say that mostly in relation to male celebrities since these discussions/surgeries are commonly associated with men, but as shown recently by Jada Pinkett Smith, there are plenty of exceptions.

All that being said, I do think there's something refreshing about famous actors basically embracing their baldness in most of their appearances. I think of guys like Woody Harrelson, Richard Jenkins and Stanley Tucci - along with several people from "The Sopranos" cast, actually. I know its a small thing, but I guess there's something cool about seeing people embracing the natural route, despite having the cash to avoid it.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

I mean there's nothing wrong about feeling better about yourself, but there's different paths for different people. There are those who are completely open about taking such options, and that's fine. There are those who keep it a secret. That's fine. There's those who embrace the bald, and that's fine. One should do whatever makes them feel comfortable. There will always be the most vain of society who looks down upon those who don't conform to whatever they deem to be the ideal, and the best way to combat that is honestly just accept someone for who they are, when it is something that only concerns that person. I think that include if you decide to shave, keep what you have, or some kind of replacement. If it's what one wants, and they're not hurting anyone for it, what's the difference.

Calvin Law said...

I'm with Robert on this one, if Yeoh is a 5 then Quan is a 5 and I think there's a path to him being a win (and I'm not just talking about Louis' awards).

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Glass Onion trailer.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: What are the roles you would cast Chris Farley in, had he not died prematurely?

Luke Higham said...

RIP Elizabeth II

Anonymous said...

R.I.P Elizabeth II

8000S said...

RIP Elizabeth II

Bryan L. said...

Ytrewq: He was set to star in a Fatty Arbuckle biopic that was to be written by David Mamet, though it only got as far as a first draft and didn’t announce a director. That could’ve been a game-changer for him.

He also originally voiced Shrek, though his version of the character was quite different from Myers’s.

I would’ve liked to see how he would’ve fared in some of PSHs’ comedic roles (Along Came Polly, Charlie Wilson’s War).

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Thought I'd bring up that today, my college theatre professor brought up the scene from Amadeus where Salieri describes Mozart's music for the first time and we broke it down in terms of everything Abraham does in that scene for almost an hour. I loved it, as I wasn't aware exactly how well-regarded Abraham's performance was outside this blogspot.

Mitchell Murray said...

So, I thought to mention that I finally watched "Ed Wood" all the way through tonight (having been familiar with most of it's scenes individually)...

Thoroughly enjoyable movie, and potentially my favourite of Tim Burton - it's hard to say what gives it competition. Regardless, it's a rather notable achievement for Burton to have made such a strong film about a notoriously bad director, while still replicating the spirit of those films to a degree. My admiration is also thanks to Depp's and Landau's winning turns, the latter being a particular balancing act between the impersonation, humour and potent tragedy of the part.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Doodle Let Me Go? It's honestly kind of a perfect song to sing while drunk, even if I don't really drink.

Tim said...

i saw Licorice Pizza yesterday and it's official, Anderson just isn't for me.

The same as with every movie he has made the past decade, there is not much to objectively point out as wrong, and many technical aspects and the acting are actually pretty great, it just failed to ever grab me at all. Just like his last three movies i was mostly pretty indifferent to everything going on and often times a bit bored.

And as somebody who also didn't enjoy Hard Eight and even considers There Will Be Blood to be technically great but overall still weaker than the sum of it's parts i can safely say that that man just doesn't seem to be my cup of tea anymore

Emi Grant said...

Tim: Fwiw, this might not change your opinion of PTA, but he only clicked with me after watching Magnolia. So, there's that...

Tim said...

Emi: that's the thing, i liked Magnolia a lot. (minus the scenes were the little boy was rapping, those were icky). Boogie Nights and Punch-Drunk Love i also enjoyed.

It's just like Lars von Trier. If he had never made a single movie i enjoyed it would be just like "pff, whatever". But the fact that he made Breaking The Waves and Dancer In The Dark makes the pretentious, sex-obsessed shaky-cam annoyances of his later days all the more frustrating (have not seen Dogville btw)

8000S said...

Louis: Also thoughts on these casting choices.

Heat (1960's, directed by Masahiro Shinoda) (Japanese version)

Neil McCauley: Ryo Ikebe
Vincent Hanna: Toshiro Mifune
Chris Shiherlis: Tatsuya Nakadai
Nate: Takashi Shimura
Michael Cheritto: Seizaburo Kawazu
Justine Hanna: Machiko Kyo
Eady: Kyoko Kagawa
Charlene Shiherlis: Ayako Wakao
Waingro: Kyu Sazanka
Roger Van Zant: Susumu Fujita
Trejo: Tsunagoro Rashomon

The Northman (1960's, directed by Akira Kurosawa) (Japanese version)

Amleth: Toshiro Mifune
Gudrun: Isuzu Yamada
Fjolnir: Masayuki Mori
Olga: Kyoko Kagawa
King Aurvandill: Susumu Fujita
Thorir: Tatsuya Nakadai
Helmir: Koji Mitsui
Seeress: Machiko Kyo

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1960's, directed by Mikio Naruse) (Japanese version)

George: Masayuki Mori
Martha: Isuzu Yamada
Nick: Tatsuya Nakadai
Honey: Kyoko Kagawa

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Of the people and films that are favorites for the 2023 Oscars, tell me which will be the winners of tomorrow's Venice Film Festival?

Golden Lion: The Son
Silver Lion: Tár
Volpi Cup for Best Actor: Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Volpi Cup for Best Actress: Ana De Armas - Blonde
Golden Osella for Best Screenplay: The Banshees of Inisherin

Calvin Law said...

I agree with these except Saint-Omer will win Golden Lion I think.

Anonymous said...

Louis thoughts on Blonde's reception so far?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Looks like fun, hope it is.

8000's:

Preexisting.

Ytrewq:

Honestly not to sure, as we never really saw whether or not he had something in the dramatic tank.

8000's:

Not sure about Shinoda, only due to my limited viewing of his work at this point. Yes to all else particularly Ikebe vs. Mifune, the latter who would own the Hanna big moments to be sure. Although it is the smaller role technically I might put Nakadai with Waingro to make the bigger impact.

Northman, again Thorir feels like a waste of Nakadai but otherwise can support that cast. Although 60's I think is too late for Mifune as Amleth, I'd swap to Nakadai at that point.

Woolf, based on Naruse I think realistically he would've cast Takamine for Martha, but otherwise the cast fits, particularly Mori as George.

Anonymous:

Well I'm hopeful that it seems love/hate to a certain extent (though de Armas seems universally praised), so looking forward to see if I respond to the big swing.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tahmeed: That's quite interesting, has your class analyzed any other scenes in a similliar manner?


Bryan: Considering the fact he played a comical salesman in Tommy Boy, Farley would have been a very good Sandy Lyle. Also I may be going too far with this one, but based on that early animation test of campfire scene from Shrek, I would've preferred Farley's plainclothes, yet more emotional performance. At least compared to Myers, whose main draw seems to be largely just that Scottish accent and how iconic it has become.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Wholly loved Cobra Kai Season 5. Can't really pick an MVP right now, but Macchio, Okumoto, Zabka, Mariduena and Griffith were all quite great.

Perfectionist said...

Tahmeed: Spot on!!!!! And honestly I feel conflicted choosing MVP too now. It's tied between Okumoto and Zabka for now.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Peter Diseth in Better Call Saul.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Also, for the UK Better Call Saul cast, how would you feel about Bill Nighy for Ed Begley Jrs. equivalent?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Rest in peace, Marsha Hunt.

8000S said...

Louis: Who would you cast for a biopic of Estes Kefauver, who was Stevenson's running mate in 1956? Much like Thomas Dewey, he also fought the mob and was notorious for being one of those Southern Democrats who was in favor of racial equality.

Also, your casting choices for the other members of his committee which investigated interstate crime during 1950 and 1951?

Louis Morgan said...

Blanchett and Farrell win the Volpi Cups. Expected enough I think for Blanchett, but a great get for Farrell in terms of being part of the conversation.

Bryan:

Diseth is kind of entirely respectably fine for most of the series as the slightly put upon and also slightly exasperated by Saul manner of his, while also having at times this slight undercurrent of a kind of fascination with him. Thought he was very good in the last episode in playing the properly thankless role of the thankless job of defending Saul with the right sense of humor via his reactions of disbelief.


















RIP Marsha Hunt

Luke Higham said...

Farrell won Venice. I must admit, he really needed it more than Fraser who will get in on the narrative alone.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Marsha Hunt

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Kendall and Logan's negotiation scene at dinner from Succession season 3, in terms of the acting and writing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXU48UlCWkA

Also, once you see it, your thoughts on the latest Cobra Kai season, and your cast ranking.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Marsha Hunt

RatedRStar said...

2022 might not be too weak after all, it could be quite enjoyable, especially when I think it could be the year of the overdue first Oscar nominee with Michelle Yeoh, Paul Dano, Brendan Fraser, Claire Foy, Colin Farrell, Brendan Gleeson, Bill Nighy and Ben Whishaw.

RatedRStar said...

In particular, with the great reviews for Women Talking, I have been reading up on the film, I have heard that Ben Whishaw has a lot of...crying scenes, that surely bodes well.

8000S said...

R.I.P. Marsha Hunt

Shaggy Rogers said...

YES! I hit the screenplay!
I liked Farrell's win which increases his chances of being nominated. I hope the reception of The Banshees of Inisherin helps Gleeson as well.
I believed Venice awarded Todd Field only as a welcome back.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Well Benedict Cumberbatch, as long as he's in Power of the Dog brilliance mode.

Herbert O'Conor: Bryan Cranston
Lester C. Hunt: Robert Englund
Alexander Wiley: William Devane
Charles W. Tobey: Christopher Lloyd

Tahmeed:

Although Cox was used less in season 3 he was brilliant in every scene he was used in. Cox in the scene has such perfect relaxed posture in the scene as he completely embodies the guy with all the card and the power, and really his negotiation is purely a process of humoring the "offer". What is amazing about Cox's work is that he brings those briefest hints of any heart such as offering Kendall to do the meal, which is cold hearted, yet Cox brings this faintest hint of affection even in the belittling offer. Where Cox shows the most viciousness is when Kendall attempts to get on a high horse of any kind and Cox brings such a potent bluntness with every word as he lays everything out mercilessly. Strong is also amazing in the scene in portraying really the beaten dog attempting to bite out even though every bite has no real teeth behind it. Strong showing Kendall in the state of resignation going through hell internally while he delivers every attempt to attack Logan as halfhearted grandstanding, merely grasping at straws as he's lost in the moment.

The writing itself is of course stellar because what you see the whole scene is in a way is Logan's olive branch, as demeaning as it is through the scene, as he has no intention of making a deal, just hearing his son out, with an easy backhand for every final stab Kendall make take, who has lost all his ground at this point. You get such a pure sense of their relationship as neither can speak purely to the scene as Logan reminds what he has done as a father for Kendall, by only speaking of Kendall's faults, in turn Kendall is so broken he can only get a response by attempting to hit every criticism of his father over the years, yet from such a faulty place in the attempt.

Mitchell Murray said...

So apparently, Sigourney Weaver and Joel Edgerton are starring in a Paul Schrader film called "Master Gardener". It has yet to have an official release, but it did premiere at the Venice film festival this year.

This is in addition to the other two Weaver films coming out quite soon: "Call Jane", which has a US release on October 28th and covers a rather timely subject, and "The Good House", which has a US release on September 30th and reunites Weaver with her "Dave"/"The Ice Storm" co-star Kevin Kline.

I don't know how any of these 3 films will be received; I can't speak to how good Weaver is in them, or if she'll get any traction this awards season. Nevertheless, I'm at least glad to see such a seasoned actress appearing in more stuff - especially since she's in her 70s, and hasn't been utilized nearly as much as she should.

Anonymous said...

Mitchell: don't forget Avatar: The Way of Water, which Weaver is in too. Good to see that she's been in a handful of stuff off-late.

Marcus said...

Louis: Your top ten Succession scenes?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Fabelmans trailer?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: What do you think of the scene from Breaking Bad where Hank tells Marie that the day he brings in Walt would be the last day of his job?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Pat Healy in Better Call Saul? He's a fine actor in other stuff I've seen him in, but I honestly can't picture him outing "Gene" as Saul in the mall and being unnerving whilst doing so. I would've loved to see the shenanigans they later do with Harvey in the part.

Also, why do you think Jimmy decides to take care of the problem of being discovered in his own hands instead of just hitting up ol' Ed again for his "vacuum services"?

Bryan L. said...

(Also, to everyone, we all noticed that Kims' new beau in Florida is quite different than Saul, right?)

I also liked the small touch of her sprucing up an ad that she's typing while at her new job, meaning that the thrill she experienced with Saul is still in her somewhere.

Bryan L. said...

*Technically, he did call up Ed again, but didn't go through with it, is what I meant.

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

1. Kendall Trying to Get to the Vote
2. Boar on the Floor
3. You Come For Me Love?
4. Sacrificial lamb discussion
5. Greg trying to "breakup" with Tom
6. Greg and Tom talk principles
7. Greg before the Senate
8. L to the OG
9. Connor's non-Eulogy
10. Logan's favorite Shakespeare Quote

Anonymous:

Have to admit a different film with similar aspects I might be more cynical towards, but that one hit in the sweet spot and in Kushner/Spielberg collaboration I trust. Looking forward to it (particularly with the talk about Lynch's cameo).

Robert:

I think it informs much of Hank's behavior with the end of his character, which is essentially he himself needs to work outside the law since to go straight to his department, beyond those he completely trusts, would be career suicide given his closeness was even more severe than his previous boss's was with Gus. In turn that also is Hank's own downfall as going in nearly alone is what leads him to his trap. And with the scene you get Hank who always is a good guy, but very much flawed in his own way, if that is nothing compared to Walt's flaws.

Bryan:

Yeah Healy's performance isn't terrible but it is pretty thin. He's just kind of momma's boy with a bit of info and low stakes criminal background. There's no real complexity to him and you never read anything in his performance beyond that surface. Although the surface is fine enough. Where it truly suffers is comparing it to Harvey's work which was brilliantly enigmatic as wavered between a weirdo, a creep and someone genuinely menacing in the moment. You couldn't quite get a read on him, whereas Healy was pretty obvious the whole time, though again not terrible as such.

I think Jimmy decided to do it because it gave him an opportunity to test his skill as Saul in a way again, as he wasn't exactly loving life as Gene anyways.

Louis Morgan said...

And as promised updated Oscar predictions, although obviously waiting on She Said & Babylon still:

Picture:

She Said (Winner)
Empire of Light
The Fabelmans
Babylon
Top Gun: Maverick
The Banshees of Inisherin
Tar
Elvis
Everything Everywhere All At Once
Decision to Leave

She Said based on subject matter, though we'll see if it is good enough. They love Mendes, they love movies about movies, Empire of Light makes it easy. Fabelmans swap out Mendes with Spielberg same statement (although that could actually be a problem for one of them). Which also could be a problem for Babylon which needs to be great. Top Gun obviously is beloved though I would say its biggest wrench would be if Avatar supplants it. Right now though looks good. McDonagh broke through, Banshees has said to be his best film by some, so looking good for him, particularly as he could get a lot of BAFTA support as well. Tar I think will be in or out based on another race. Elvis got enough boxoffice, will need to sustain, we'll see but definitely a film that will get support from the older academy. EEAO is still maybe too strange but I could see it pulling the Mad Max, I do think it will need critical support. Decision to Leave for the (Drive My Car) spot, no guarantee, and don't count out Bardo despite the middling reception, as the academy has never not nominated an AGI film for at least something. Women Talking feels like potentially the harsher thematic counterpart to She Said, so hence my inclusion, though I think if three movies can be potentially nominated about how movies are awesome then probably two films about the abuse suffered by women could make it in.

Director:

Steven Spielberg - The Fabelmans (Winner)
Sam Mendes - Empire of Light
Damien Chazelle - Babylon
Maria Schrader - She Said
Park Chan-wook - Decision to Leave

Actress:

Cate Blanchett - Tar (Winner)
Olivia Colman - Empire of Light
Michelle Yeoh - Everything Everywhere All At Once
Danielle Deadwyler - Till
Naomi Ackie - I Wanna Dance With Somebody

Blanchett I think has the perceived cache of deserving three Oscars, so I think she can win it if she steamrolls which it sounds like she could. Yeoh is probably her biggest opponent with the critics at the moment, but I think she may struggle some places still unfortunately. Colman is becoming an academy favorite if they love the film, they'll love her. Deadwyler definitely seems to have the role, even if she isn't too known, I think she can get in on it. Ackie is purely based on the McCarten factor, which has to be seen as legit. de Armas I think could happen though would be last minute Stewart type nom. We'll see on Robbie, I think the She Said ladies are probably out in favor of more acting driven films, probably. Davis I think will get the SAG nom, but probably fade out from there.

Louis Morgan said...

Actor:

Austin Butler - Elvis (Winner)
Brendan Fraser - The Whale
Colin Farrell - The Banshees of Inisherin
Bill Nighy in Living
Hugh Jackman - The Son

I think who wins will be whatever film the Academy loves the most. Right now I'm predicting something like the Wrestler for The Whale, more acting centric than the overall film, but we'll see. Given Farrell is going against "transformations" I think he'll probably have to be happy for a nomination. Still watch on Bill Nighy, who I think will probably get helped by British bloc support. Jackman seems like Vanessa Kirby, carried in on his own performance though the film falters beyond him. Won't be convinced on Song or Park unless they get an industry precursor. Don't see Driver happening for White Noise. Watch out for Daniel Gimenez Cacho though, again if Bardo does more than expected. And Bale in Amsterdam could definitely happen, I'm just waiting to see if the Academy is over Russell. There's been Cruise talk, not buying it unless something happens to support it. I would be 100% against it even though I liked him there, but that was not a stretch for him.

Supporting Actress:

Michell Williams - The Fabelmans (Winner)
Jessie Buckley - Women Talking
Claire Foy - Women Talking
Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin
Hong Chau - The Whale

Williams sounds like a slam-dunk from the reception, her previous Academy history and the role honestly. Buckley and Foy I think have a problem as both were well lauded, but I think both could get in regardless. Condon I think needs the film to do well but she certainly had the reviews. Chau I think has a road block in Sadie Sink but from what I saw she was more consistently focused upon for praise, so we'll see.

Supporting Actor:

Brendan Gleeson - The Banshees of Inisherin (Winner)
Paul Dano - The Fabelmans
Ke Huy Quan - Everything Everywhere All At Once
Anthony Hopkins - Armageddon Time
Ben Whishaw - Women Talking

If Gleeson runs supporting of course, and if the film does well, this could be the place to reward it. Dano sounds like he'll get nominated but won't win as the focal point has been Williams. Ke Huy Quan, again if the film is happening he's got a great personal narrative that helps. Hopkins, because if he's in any contention he rarely misses out. Ben Whishaw maybe for the last spot, we'll see.

Luke Higham said...

That Supporting Actor lineup would be so fucking good.

Louis: From what I'm hearing, Judd Hirsch might contend for a nod in The Fabelmans

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Hirsch is getting raves and could get nominated.

Louis: I noticed that, for your review of his performance in Ordinary People, you wrote "Judd Hirsch received his only Oscar nomination." Shouldn't you rewrite that to "his first Oscar nomination" since he has a reasonable shot at a second nom with The Fabelmans?

Bryan L. said...
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Bryan L. said...

Yeoh, Fraser, Farrell, Nighy, Gleeson, Dano, and Whishaw all potentially in the mix to join the club? This could be a doozy.

(Butler, Chau, and Foy as well, but I wanted to highlight the ones that have been on the scene for awhile).

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Seems like another potential double nod or one or the other. Both with strong narratives.

Dano: Banner year, seen overdue by many, THE father figure behind all of Spielberg's father figures.

Hirsch: Flashier based on the trailer and a well liked vet that would break Henry Fonda's record on time between acting nods.

Anonymous:

I'm cool with my 11 year old review becoming slightly inaccurate.

Bryan L. said...

I think someone from She Said could actually up end up getting in, since it feels like this years' Spotlight, and they may opt to nominate an actor there to "legitimize" the film overall. Maybe Patricia Clarkson in Supporting?

Also, Louis, I'm guessing what you mentioned about Robbie also applies to Pitt, in terms of Babylon hitting or not? Pitt also has some current afterglow after his OUATIH win.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Haha! That's fair enough. :)

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I think it would have to be in Supporting Actress indeed, as procedural leads don't typically get nominated. Again with Babylon waiting on word for what it is even as based on the name it could actually be the anti-thesis of Spielberg's/Mendes's efforts, but at this point we don't know. To the point wikipedia has now removed most of the famous names in terms of the characters. But yes Pitt definitely could be in contention based just on current standings.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the House Of The Dragon episode.

I doubt you're gonna continue with The Rings Of Power.

Oliver Menard said...

After watching the third episode of Rings of Power, I'm probably going to drop out too. It's one thing to just be a soulless fantasy show, but when you have the much superior House of Dragon airing at the SAME TIME it just makes RoP look even worse.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Yeah I'm done with Rings unless I hear that there is some major improvement at some point. Side note on that I have to say with all the money Amazon spent, that none of it was spent on any actors of note (as even Clark has only just started to break out).

Of course switching over to House of the Dragon you don't need truly big name actors, just actors with proven talent as shown here again with great work once again from Considine, Smith and particularly Ifans who I thought did some great subtle complexity in his key moments. MVP though I'd probably give to Emily Carey, who I wasn't entirely sure upon until this point, but I thought was fantastic here, particularly in her major scene with Alcock. Now making both Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke having their work cut out for them whenever it is that they will be ascending to the roles. The episode itself I thought was quite the shift in pacing from the last week, but for me effectively so in creating a more lurid atmosphere as the politics get to be their most dirty. Potent I felt in this exploration, particularly in again allowing Considine again to show that, unlike what Mel Brooks said, it might not be all that good to be King...of course if trying to be decent is part of your perceived duty.

Calvin Law said...

Most of these predictions look great, fingers crossed Park keeps that momentum and critics go to bat for him (it helps that people like Chazelle and Spielberg are previous Oscar winners so the critics may be more inclined to throw support behind someone who hasn't been in the conversation before).

100% agree that Condon seems like a likely inclusion with the ton of acclaim she's getting. And yeah, Chau has been getting more notices overall and has previously been in the conversation so we'll see.

Calvin Law said...

I'm also considering Nina Hoss a strong prospect given she has good reviews and if Tár ends up being a thing, could ride the Sally Hawkins to Blanchett-esque momentum (plus the growing European bloc will likely have a lot of support for her).

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Thor Love and Thunder. It has its moments but overall yikes. The jokes (90% of the movie) just do not work here, and I worry that Taika Waititi has bought into his own hype too much, but I really hope not.

Hemsworth-3.5(The writing is a major missed opportunity surrounded by bad jokes but damn it if he doesn't do his best to sell every bit of it)

Bale-4(He's barely in it, and it feels like he's in another movie, but a movie I'd rather see. Anyway, he's effectively creepy and appropriately moving when needed. His best scene though, and the best scene of the film actually, and really the reason for a 4 instead of a 3.5, is the prologue where he fully delivers on the devastation that fuels his character)

Thompson-3(The writing does her reallly dirty)

Waititi-2(Overexposed, and there's honestly a smugness to his delivery as if he's going "Yeah, you guys all love me")

Crowe-3.5(So, the secret here is he plays it as if he's a cast member on What We Do in the Shadows, and that worked for me)

Portman-2.5(Her least bad performance as this character, in the sense that she at least seems like she wants to be there, but her comic timing is off and she still doesn't really have much chemistry with Hemsworth but her dramatic moments are OK-ish, despite, again, weak writing)

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S68dRecpTs0

Razor said...

Louis: Seen any new/returning shows recently?

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Agreed that Park could be the critical darling which would help a lot, that certainly won't be AGI out of non-English competitors.

I think it is possible for Hoss, though I could also see Blanchett being so focused upon that ends up being left off. It doesn't help, and this seems so odd, but Hoss is kind of an unknown in the US. Supporting Actress though seems potentially quite competitive this year in terms of nominations (although at this venture, if I was forced to money on predicting one acting win, I'd go with Michelle Williams), so it will be interesting to see how the category shakes out. And hopefully, because it seems like there might be several great performances in the running, we can avoid any filler nominations.

8000's:

A major thing I'd push back on is Jake avoiding working with the police just due to ego, although that is part of it, I'd say he doesn't trust them, which honestly he's probably right not to an extent. Additionally I wouldn't say the "message" is so simple, as Jake obviously isn't so optimistic that more cynicism was needed for him to succeed. Given Towne actually wanted a "good ending" originally, I'd say there's more to that even if one becomes well intended (which Jake becomes more a genuine hero in terms of personal attitude throughout the film), everything may still end in brutal tragedy. There is no reason to believe, within the film's cruel world, to believe that any action by Jake could've "saved the day", as even if he tried to take Evelyn to Mexico himself, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't have gotten stopped or that Cross doesn't have connections there. "Forget Get It Jake" I'd say more so alludes to the idea in the film that sometimes, as hard as one might try, one can't stop evils, that are too powerful to overcome. However I will say the video interpretation certainly can be taken, as Chinatown is a great film, therefore open to multiple interpretations of what it really is all about.

Razor:

Gave What We Do in The Shadows a chance after season 3, which I really didn't like, and thought it was pretty funny again. Haven't finished the season yet, but certainly will.

Anonymous said...

I think we're all expecting a more enjoyable awards season this year. At least on the acting front.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: your top 10 actors with the most narration-friendly voices (aside from Morgan Freeman)?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the direction of The Shop Around the Corner?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: After 81, is the next year to be revised 2016?

Robert MacFarlane said...

FOR FUCK’S SAKE, JULIA GARNER’S COLD MOUNTAIN IMPRESSION WINS AGAIN?!

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Delighted that MacFadyen's won for Succession, great choice.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Too livid about Seehorn losing to watch the rest.

Emi Grant said...

MacFadyen winning for Succession is fantastic and very deserved.

Seehorn losing is gonna make me become the Joker

Louis Morgan said...

Glad MacFadyen finally got his recognition, shame about Seehorn, at least she has one more chance.

Tahmeed:

A very delicately directed film by Lubitsch that is said to be a romantic comedy, although I don't think that really is accurate, more so a gentle romantic tale. There the directing is what excels in creating this specific kind of tone to the material that really has a considerable ease for a film of its ilk for the 40's. This right down to the most melodramatic element regarding Morgan's character, that even Lubitsch slowly cultivates though most powerfully. Lubitsch's definition is the atmosphere of the shop, of the town around the shop, and the ease of this realization that gives a unique sense of place that isn't quite reality nor quite fable, yet is quite something special. It is tangible, yet also unique, and just wonderfully told in its way.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Love that Goldstein got his second Emmy, although Winkler would have been just as deserving.