Sunday 19 June 2022

Alternate Best Actor 1979: Steve Martin in The Jerk

Steve Martin did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Navin R. Johnson in The Jerk.
 
The Jerk is an enjoyably dumb comedy about a jerk going through life. 
 
The Jerk marked Steve Martin's successful breakout from stand-up comedian, who occasionally cameod in films, to a full-on movie star. This is an interesting film to look at in terms of Steve Martin's later more expected presence which was a more white-collarish jerk, where he played a distinctly blue-collar jerk. Although more importantly than that, Martin later would play an intelligent man where the comedy of his work came from that in some context, particularly the idea as the smartest man in the room one way or another. This is the opposite as his Navin R. Johnson is always the dumbest man in the room right when we seem to see him in his sharecropper roots. Martin's accent he uses here I think is perhaps the greatest risk of this performance, which is really on a certain tight rope of goofiness, to begin with, and is rather wonderful in just how dumb his voice is. It isn't quite a southern accent, instead, it is best described as a stupid accent, a very stupid accent that manages to be hilarious in its odd dumbness. His way of not quite being anything that makes sense just makes for perfect sense in creating a strangely endearing kind of dumb for his Navin as we see him move from his rural life to find his fortune. 

What this performance then becomes is this series of Martin being funny as a complete idiot and getting into ridiculous situations often due to Navin's idiocy or by mere happenstance. Martin's work here is pure in the sense of him just trying to be as funny as possible with his overly earnest delivery which might be the key to his portrayal of Navin as the jerk. This as Martin is kind of everything you'd want in this performance, as there is the right lack of awareness that Martin brings as the fool. A kind of essential ingredient that is interesting to see upon reflection given Martin would be known for smarter seeming characters. Martin's approach wholly works in his foolishness because there's just something pure about his smile that suggests little to few thoughts of Navin as he first finds work at a car garage. A place where we get great comedic timing from Martin whether it be his hapless reactions to his boss (Jackie Mason)'s strange advice, or his physical comedy goes around with a sort of incompetence. That run of his alone is needed for a bit of analysis for comedy. It is just the right kind of dumb, natural unnatural dumbness. It is too much, but also not too much. A highlight of Martin's approach perhaps finding his closet apartment where the excitement in his voice and wonder in his eyes as he looks at the dingy place is hilarious because Martin is too much, but there is something strangely authentic about it as well. He makes it that Navin is a ridiculous fool, but in that foolishness, his delight at his crappy apartment is 100% true. 

I think a great example of just this is when we see him find two very different lovers one a rough-around-the-edges stunt woman and the other a sweet woman, Marie (Bernadette Peters). With the latter, there is a scene of the two talking that is hilarious as Martin shows Navin's particular ineptness that Marie for whatever reason finds absolutely endearing. The thing is it is endearing because of the pitch-perfect nature of Martin's performance. Martin says completely stupid lines like asking Marie to think of her boyfriend when making love to him, but he says them with this sort of boyish honesty that makes it so funny. The film's romance itself is really dumb, right to an initial kiss of Navin's being licking Marie, which Martin does in such stride, which is also what is so funny. Martin shows the key of trying not to be funny is often the key to hilariousness and here we get kind of a great mix of trying to be funny, while also being funny, and trying not to be funny and being funny. Martin knows how to fluctuate his performance from going all in, such as the silly way he evokes Bruce Lee in a sudden battle with racists, or his quiet "seriousness" when a lost soul is forgotten by society. Both are Martin throwing all of himself in from the strict conviction of a battle stance as a fighter to a dumb saunter of the loathsome creature attempting redemption. Martin's work here has no higher purpose here, but he does not need it. This is just Martin being funny, by so purely being this idiot, and doing so in a way that is truly delightful in its idiotic ways.

76 comments:

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis:Which one of Martin's performances is the closest to a 5 for you at this point?

Calvin Law said...

Enjoyed this one.

Louis: your thoughts on the editing and cinematography of Minority Report? Rewatched it and liked it a lot more than I recall, especially for the editing, and while I don't care for some of the lighting choices in it the camera movement is more vintage Spielberg than I remember.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAOuAlG5jJM

Matt Mustin said...

Has anyone here managed to see Crimes of the Future yet?

Michael McCarthy said...

Matt: I did actually, my life is so bonkers that I didn’t post about it. Not sure how much I liked it outside of Lea Seydoux, who was terrific.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Spiderhead made me realize two things: one, I can't really stand Miles Teller in anything unless his character is being constantly ridiculed in some way. Second, Chris Hemsworth needs to do more work outside of Thor, cause he was terrific here.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: What did you think of Mortensen and Stewart.

8000S said...

For 1958, aside from The Magician, Bergman also directed Brink's Life that same year. Andersson, Thulin and Dahlbeck are all excellent, as you'd expect them to be. The three actually shared the Best Actress award at the Cannes Film Festival, along with Barbro Hiort af Ornäs, who plays a nurse in the film. Bergman also won for Best Director.

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

Well probably Little Shop of Horrors. Lead wise though Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

Calvin:

The editing is terrific Spielbergian style action kinetic movement, particularly in creating the idea of the pre-cogs along with just creating cohesive and compelling action. It's particularly good once the "chase" aspect of the plot begins and just does properly move like Spielberg's other better and best actioneers even with its overall length.

Although I like the film, I'm not a big fan of Kaminski's work on the whole, for as you mention the lighting choices. This being the unfortunate use of over-lighting which seems to be done with purposeful artifice, which I think makes more sense here than in War of the Worlds, Munich, Indiana Jones and the Bad Movie, War Horse, Lincoln, Bridge of Spies, Ready Player One, The BFG and the Post, in creating a futuristic hue, but I still don't like the execution of it that just is more off-putting overall. This ever present choice though being a consistent flaw in all those collaborations though to some degree, and I was truly surprised by West Side Story turning around my view of their collaboration after all those films. Having said that, the composition of the shots is actually very good in capturing action and creating dynamic shots throughout the film, particularly as you say in the movement.

Matt:

I thought about making the slightly further trip to see it, then I finally watched the trailer which didn't exactly excite me, so I said "eh I can wait".

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Dafoe always is very innately likable, and he's quite funny in commenting on his rather expressive acting. The bit at the end though I didn't think was particularly good, though that's not on Dafoe.

Razor said...

Always enjoy Steve Martin.

Louis: Thoughts on his performance in Pennies from Heaven?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top 5 Steve Martin performances?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Tahmeed: My Top 5
1. The Jerk
2. Planes, Trains & Automobiles
3. Pennies From Heaven
4. Little Shop of Horrors
5. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

HM The Spanish Prisoner (1997)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is there any possibility of Paul Winfield in Sounder being reevaluated.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this interview with Ingmar Bergman, Bibi Andersson and Liv Ullmann.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o84YwAN0hi4

Calvin Law said...

Loved Crimes of the Future myself. Seydoux and Speedman MVPs.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: cast ratings for Crimes Of The Future?

Mine:
Viggo Mortensen - 3.5
Lea Seydoux - 4
Kristen Stewart - 3

PS: thought the movie was solid overall. Great craft and good acting, but the story could’ve used more work.

Calvin Law said...

Mortensen - 4
Seydoux - 4.5
Stewart - 3.5
McKellar - 3.5
Speedman - 4/4.5

MVP is Howard Shore's score.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Sven Nykvist's work in Shame and Hour of the Wolf?

Anonymous said...

Calvin and Matthew: Seydoux is lead or supporting?

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous: Lead for me.

Luke Higham said...

Congrats to Michael J. Fox and Peter Weir on receiving Honorary Oscars.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Obi-Wan finale.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Are you going to get the chance to see RRR any time soon.

Also, did you give your thoughts on The Batman and The Northman casts yet, or are you waiting for a rewatch?

Tim said...

your thoughts on these casts?


Hud 1980s Directed by Michael Cimino

Hud: Mickey Rourke
Alma: Jessica Lange
Lonnie: River Phoenix
Homer: Robert Mitchum



Hud 1990s Directed by Tim Robbins

Hud: Sean Penn
Alma: Geena Davis
Lonnie: Anthony Michael Hall
Homer: Philip Baker Hall



American Beauty late 2000s Directed by Bennett Miller

Lester: Philip Seymour Hoffman
Carolyn: Jamie Lee Curtis
Jane: Mae Whitman
Ricky: Miles Teller
Angela: Lindsay Lohan
Col. Fitts: Ted Levine
Buddy Kane: Cary Elwes


The Silence of the Lambs 2000s Directed by David Fincher

Clarice: Anne Hathaway
Hannibal: Kevin Spacey
Jack Crawford: Alan Rickman
Jame Gumb: Heath Ledger
Chilton: William Fichtner

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis:your past and present roles for Michael McKean and Mark Hamill?

Anonymous said...

Louis, thoughts on the hanging, impaling, hospital and beheading scenes from The Omen.

Louis Morgan said...

Razor:

I have given those before, but to reiterate I think he plays the early scenes a bit too broadly, but gets progressively better the more dramatic he gets essentially.

Tahmeed:

1. Little Shop of Horros
2. Planes, Trains and Automobiles
3. The Jerk
4. All Of Me
5. Only Murders in the Building

Eventually for sure.

Waiting for the re-watch.

Luke:

Given it is one of the first performances I wrote about on here: Yes.

8000's:

It is fascinating to hear Bergman talk very non-pompously about pure entertainment films, and honestly there may be other filmmakers that should take a note from his book in that regard. I always find it baffling those who would wish to diminish what films can be made, like some of those nonsense criticism of Kurosawa for daring to be entertaining. And always appreciate Bergman's response regarding interpretation, which is squarely within the idea of individual reaction, with singular definition being a mistake in this regard. Also hard not to admire someone who expresses his distaste for Goddard so emphatically.

Shame is just gorgeously shot by Nykvist that has kind of this pristine natural beauty yet hardship about it. It is beautiful yet the emphasis on greys creates a certain dread about it. The detail though he captures on the faces of Ullmann and von Sydow again in a way speaks so much to the power of the film in creating the sense of the average people going through the horrors of the war they're within. That is also speaking to the composition of shots that are absolutely striking whether they show the person stuck within the frame, even within a more expansive backdrop, or just capturing their closeness so well.

Hour of the Wolf is both heavy style from Nykvist and Bergman in creating such striking imagery with that certain horror bent about it. This in amplifying a more directly intense lighting choices that are truly striking in that sense, and mixing up the certain shots in terms of being more atypical that leave one disoriented in the right way.

Luke:

Pretty much was the series in a singular episode, in that you did get the delivering of what was promised with a pretty thrilling showdown, with McGregor absolutely delivering in every moment of that particularly an especially emotional one that was great work from him. Around that though you have the rest of the series that is still pretty clunky with characters that might've worked in conception but fall apart in their execution here. Honestly I think it could've been streamlined to just the best material and just been made as a film.

Tim:

80's Hud, big yes on Mitchum, Rourke and Phoenix, big no on Lange as Alma needs to make a big impression without being big, where Lange tends to go big when trying to make a big impression.

90's Hud, no on Penn, maybe on the rest.

Personally would avoid remaking American Beauty, but I think all those actors could deliver in that regard.

Honestly only big on Fichtner and Fincher out of the Lambs choices, to a lesser extent Ledger but I'd prefer a character actor in that role. With Spacey feels a bit been there, as John Doe. Rickman's American accent is my hesitation there, and don't see Hathaway pulling off Clarice. Though wait a few year, I think Rooney Mara could be amazing in that role.

Ytrewq:

McKean:

Frank Abagnale Sr.
Shelley Levene (older)
Williamson (Younger)
Abe Karatz

Hamill:

Mozart (Apparently he was great on stage, and young Hamill and Hulce could be brothers)
Chas Tenenbaum
Charles Van Doren

Anonymous said...

Cast ranking for Obi-Wan?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well pretty much the best scenes of the film aka.

Hanging - Just so effortlessly disturbing by the joy of the performance in the act and the sudden nature of it.

Impaling - Probably my least favorite of it, just as there may be a bit too much build up, but still striking to be sure.

Hospital - I mean all down just to the bone chilling look from Whitelaw that does all the work for it.

Beheading - Again disturbing by just how sudden it is, and brutal it is in its unexpected nature.

Anonymous:

Ewan McGregor
Indira Varma
Joel Edgerton
Jimmy Smits
O'Shea Jackson Jr.
Bonnie Piesse
Hayden Christensen

Gap

Rupert Friend
Sung Kang
Moses Ingram
Vivien Lyra Blair
Kumail Nanjiani
Flea
Zack Braff
Benny Safdie

Luke Higham said...

Thoughts on Edgerton and Christensen.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Edgerton - (He doesn't get too much to do, but shows what a great actor can do in a bit amount of time. In that amount of time immediately gives the perfect vibe of the good but hard man of the world. Brings the right weariness but also quiet conviction of a man trying to do the right thing, even if he's not absolutely sure what that might always be. Instantly establishes the right vibe with McGregor, and shows potential beyond what we got.)

Christensen - (There isn't much of him, but I thought he did deliver on the intensity needed for his bits, against a bit of humanity in the one flashback he gets in contrast. Kind of suggests maybe the missed opportunity if he had been working with a director who wanted to engage the actors more than prequel era Lucas cared about.)

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on McGregor, Varma, Smits, Jackson Jr., Blair and Safdie.

Matt Mustin said...

Watched the first two episodes of The Americans. LOOOVED them. Will give my cast ranking when I finish the first season, but so far pretty much everyone's good.

Marcus said...

Louis: In anticipation of Gerwig's Barbie, could I have your thoughts on this original song from one of the animated films?

https://youtu.be/wj_OY0jnnqo

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If ready to give them, thoughts on the cast of Men.

And not asking for thoughts but did you get around to seeing Caligula or are you watching it back to back with Time After Time.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on David Raksin's scores for Laura and The Big Combo.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your pick for the Drama Supporting Actor Emmy between Macfadyen and Mando (if Mando gets nominated).

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed: I think Mando has to compete as Guest

Matt Mustin said...

His name was part of the main cast on all the episodes even after his exit, so I don't know what the rules are there.

Matt Mustin said...

Also they're campaigning Seehorn in Supporting apparently, which I think is a mistake.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Robert: He was submitted in the Supporting category according to Gold Derby.

Perfectionist said...

Hmm did anyone of you guys watched "The Black Phone"?? If so, thoughts and ratings.

Matt Mustin said...

Perfectionist_ad: I mean, maybe wait for it to actually come out?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Thoughts on this 1980s cast for Office Space?

Dan Aykroyd as Peter Gibbons
Shelley Long as Joanna
Danny DeVito as Milton Waddams
Michael McKean as Bill Lumbergh
Rick Moranis as Michael Bolton
Pankaj Kapoor as Samir Nagheenanajar
Alfred Molina as Lawrence

Directed by Ivan Reitman

Perfectionist said...

Matt: Huh, Hasn't it come out already?? I saw many people talking about it on social media.

Perfectionist said...

Matt: Forgot about the timezones sorry lol. But was hearing so much about the movie on Twitter and people talking about how good Hawke was, I thought it did.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

McGregor - (Just an absolutely solid rock solid reprise that in many ways shows how much potential was wasted. This as McGregor properly utilized here has such a strong charisma that is his own thing while completely evoking Guinness as well. Just a terrific balance there, while also here wholly bringing such a wonderful sense of the potential guilt over his earlier failure, and brings a real power to several key moments. Although this is still in a series that too feels like wasted potential overall, however McGregor did not waste his chance to shine here.)

Varma - (Really strong work that shows the weakness of some co-stars. This as Varma brings just a quiet sense of conviction and urgency, while also bringing the sense of regal detachment in her cover version of her character. A character who really deserved more, however Varma was absolutely on point every second of screentime, and again why the series just left too much on the table.)

Smits - (I mean he's always been good in this role even if always underutilized. This is the most he's gotten to do, and is terrific in bringing a real wonderful sense of warmth and concern in his scenes.)

Jackson Jr. - (A terribly written part where every switch is immediate, but Jackson does his utmost to successfully bring some gravitas to it all.)

Blair - (Kind of scene by scene, she had a good moments where the sass worked, and other ones where she seemed to much a 2022 kid at other times. Cloying at times convincing at others, but most of all just not consistent. Although not as terrible as I thought by virtue of the first episode, but just not great on the whole.)

Safdie - (Well here's why Guinness was a great actor, with the idea of genre range. Safdie proves not the best, or at least not properly motivated, or perhaps he thought he needed to give a prequel or power rangers performance. Because Safdie was just awful here, every line was that kind of completely phony feeling attempt at earnestness.)

Marcus:

Well for what I imagine is a disposable animated kids bargain bin film, I have to say that is a more than half way decent Disney style princess song.

Luke:

Buckley - (Firmly 4.5, which is low for her for me in a leading role...but this is a totally strong work from her. She just brings such authentic intensity to the sense of the role of creating such a palatable sense of her distress and kind of intangible sense of a sort of guilt. She's terrific in always bringing a genuine humanity, even as the film gets worse and worse, she is always good. I wish the film was worthy of her efforts.)

Kinnear - (Basically an acting reel for an underrated actor, and he's terrific in playing the different variations of the men. Particularly liked his largely affable performance as the slightly befuddled landowner, but he's also very good as the creepy vicar. He's good in all the more functional roles as well. I wish the film didn't just become a whole lot of nothing, because his performance had a lot of untapped promise.)

Tahmeed:

Mando would be wiser to compete in guest, which I recall the rule having been (though it might've changed) was the actor had to be in less than half the season. If not I foresee a likely snub because Emmys have been terrible at finding the right supporting actor for Better Call Saul past like season 1, with McKean being snubbed for season 2 and 3, and Esposito being the choice last season over Mando or Dalton.

Anyway, MacFadyen between the two, but it is very close, and both would be extremely deserving.

Calvin Law said...

Yeah, it's been out for a week in some places I think.

Calvin Law said...

I liked Kinnear in all his bits but I won't lie that Tintin-faced Kinnear was unintentionally hilarious.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Raksin's score for Laura is just a beautiful work, absolutely piercing in its combination of these mysterious and romantic overtures. Has a wonderful haunting quality by mixing these two styles together in this kind of fascinating blending. That is you sense kind of the love obsession with Laura that defines so many character's view of the titular character within the music as ever present, while it mixes in with this quiet darkness. It is a score that is filled with the very thematic ideas and really the idea of the character. It suggests what the film is just by listening to it, which often is a trait of a great score. One of the great scores from the 40's. Also an absolutely baffling snub given the 20 nominations in the category.

The Big Combo's score isn't quite in that league, it has a fun jazzy quality though with this mix of noir undertones. It isn't as distinct as that other score, but certainly delivers in a more practically functional sense, with a little bit of individuality in there.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

That was terrible....and the indication to me that we might be in a rough ride, as I think the film's setup is legitimately strong.

Luke Higham said...

Anybody seeing Elvis today.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the scene from Cobra Kai season 4 where Robby breaks down in front of Johnny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1naoM5Q_TU

8000S said...

Louis: For whatever reason, I've seen some people that despite loving Double Indemnity, they dislike MacMurray's performance. I've read that Fredric March, Gregory Peck, Spencer Tracy, James Cagney and Alan Ladd were all considered to play Neff.

What do you think of those possible choices? I honestly can't imagine anyone else other than MacMurray in that part, and I don't think any of those five would fit, although I do think Cagney would have been a great Keyes.

8000S said...

Louis: Also I have to say I love your comment that films should be viewed as a time capsule and not as a moral compass. To me, I refuse to limit the films I watch just because some actors or filmmakers are assholes. Sure, Brando, Wayne, Gibson, Spacey, Ward Bond, Charles Coburn and Walter Brennan are/were assholes in real life, but I don't think that lessens their talent.

Matthew Montada said...

Luke: I’m watching it today actually. I’m also watching The Black Phone on Saturday.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your thoughts on the Sopranos episode Long Term Parking?

Calvin Law said...

And Soprano Home Movies (these two are perhaps the most emotional ones for me personally)

Perfectionist said...

Calvin: Your single most favorite TV performance of all time??? You can give me a top 5 too.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What are your top 5 lightsaber duels. The Kenobi Finale duel would definitely be in my top 3.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: your overall thoughts on the vampire scene from Mystic River? I'd say that what was meant to serve as an Oscar-worthy scene for Robbins is in fact the weakest part of the afformentioned performance.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey Louis
Taking advantage of the post of a film by director Carl Reiner, I wanted to know two things about his son Rob:
1) What are the positions of Reiner (The Princess Bride) and Sidney Lumet (The Hill) in your best director rankings?
2) Say your Top 10 Carl and Rob Reiner movies.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on George Clooney's Oscar speech, and the South Park episode it inspired?

Perfectionist said...

Louis: Considering that your view of Washington as an actor has vastly changed over the years because of his acting style having grown on you, is it possible for him to get a good upgrade for Glory when you get to 1989 supporting??

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: I could see him going up to a 4.5 for Glory.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Honestly good acting from Buchanan who has often been a bit inconsistent overall, and moving moment in terms of having the admittance by Johnny that Daniel did something right for the sake of his son.

8000's:

March on the right day as he does have an innate average man quality that I think could've worked, of course MacMurray was perfect because he just embodied an average man.

Hard no for both Peck and Tracy of the period, would've way overplayed the evil of the character I think, where MacMurray never for a moment plays Neff nefarious in a traditional villainous sense.

Cagney would've been a great Keyes indeed, but Cagney is too innately shady in his presence that there wouldn't be really a proper sense of the corruption of the character.

Ladd I don't think quite had the nuance in his gas tank as an actor.

Calvin:

An absolutely heartbreaking episode in terms of everything with Adriana, as always this woman who was simply out of her depth and really abused by everyone in her life including the FBI. Everything about the last moments with her and Christopher are so powerful particularly the contrasting final "rides" that Adriana experiences, the hopeful dream, and then the very brutal reality.

Sopranos Home Movies is the episode that most reflects the contrasting realities of the situation between the idea of family against the idea of mob family life. This within though even the idea of just how the Sopranos themselves relate compared to really Bobby who genuinely just wants to care and be cared for without hostility. With this even in the moments of fun, the undercurrent of venom that really defines their lives and actions even within the claim of civility within them all. Exemplified in Tony's pettiness in his insults, his defeat, then his revenge essentially by making Bobby as condemned as a man as he. An amazing episode that exemplifies the best within the central idea of the series.

Luke:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Return of the Jedi
3. Obi-Wan (I mean could've even been higher if they had bothered to give a better reason for Obi-Wan not finishing off the job)

Ytrewq:

Probably my least favorite scene of the film, though Penn's freakout while being held back by a sea of cops is close. This as just Eastwood really plays into the histrionics of a scene, amplified by Robbins going so big as a well. I think the concept could've made something really powerful if there had just been way more restraint shown both in the acting and directing.

Tahmeed:

Well the use in the episode is pretty funny, although I think their brand of smug cynicism also might form a pretty large cloud on its own. I think with Clooney I think his wording was more off than his overall sentiment, so I think the intention gets jumbled to the point smugness. What kind of hurts him I think is his confidence, as the not winning director comment with just less confidence would be funny awareness of the Oscar game. At the end of the day though I honestly don't penalize him too much, because from almost all sources Clooney is a genuine person, right down to personally helping spread the word of the South Park creators. So yeah it definitely was smug, but again, Parker and Stone aren't really quite the role models in that department.

Shaggy:

#6 for both, where I do think those are well directed films, but it is the screenplays that are their greatest asset.

1. The Princess Bride
2. Misery
3. This Is Spinal Tap
4. Stand By Me
5. The Jerk
6. A Few Good Men
7. When Harry Met Sally...
8. All Of Me
9. The Man With Two Brains
10. Oh God!

Perfectionist_ad:

Again, I think vastly is too strongly worded, never disliked Washington as a performer. But yes it is possible he could be upgraded.

Matt Mustin said...

I was gonna say, South Park taking someone to task for being smug suggests a severe lack of self-awareness on their part.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

In regards to MR, I always thought that it was almost ridiculous how a gritty movie dealing with such serious and non-far fetched problems like murders and being a victim of sexual harrasment features a scene with a character breaking that immersion by dramaticaly rambling about "geez honey, someone's messing with me and so I think I may not be a human, like a werewolf, you know?"

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I loved South Park for its first 9-10 seasons, but it should have ended at around Season 12. Just talking about current events and acting like both sides suck isn't satire or insightful commentary, and that's been their shtick for a long time.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Ozu and Noda's screenplay of Tokyo Twilight?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Going off of Luke, your top 5 fights from the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Even thought he's not all that prolific in film nowadays, do you think Martin has a truly great dramatic performance in him?

Also, based on his work here, how do you think he would've fared as Lloyd Christmas?

Luke Higham said...

Bryan: What did you think of Elvis.

8000S said...

I recently saw Sawdust and Tinsel and Summer with Monika. Harriet Andersson is excellent in both.

Not gonna lie, kinda wish she gets upgraded for Through a Glass Darkly.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Again the screenplay here is an interesting departure for Ozu and Noda given the stakes are technically higher in terms of the immediacy and even the technical melodrama within what is going on. It is one of his least low key films but wholly excels in this approach. What is fascinating though is it suggests that really Ozu could spread if he so chose. That is what we get here in that you still sense such genuine intimacy in this situation even a situation that seems so much bigger in terms of long lost mothers and tragic deaths. Ozu never loses the spirits of the greatness of his best work even when working with sort of innately more fiery material. The observations of life feel as natural, meanwhile he finds a true poignancy and potency in touching upon a greater extreme, by just like anything else he does, fleshing out relationships and characters so powerfully and naturally.

Anonymous:

1. Daniel v. Chozon
2. Daniel v. Johnny
3. Hawk v. Robbie
4. Daniel v. Johnny Re-match
5. Robbie v. Miguel


Bryan:

Yes.

I think he was a little too old for Christmas at that point, though a Jerk era Martin would've worked well.