Thursday 30 September 2021

Alternate Best Actor 2000: Lee Byung-hun in Joint Security Area

Lee Byung-hun did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Sgt. Lee Soo-hyuk in Joint Security Area.

Joint Security Area is a terrific expectedly off beat film from director Park Chan-Wook about the complexities that develop from a friendship that develops between North and South Korean soldiers in the demilitarized zone across the border.  

Ah let's return to Lee Byung-hun once again, one of the actors it has been a joy to discover through this little endeavor of mine. An actor if you only watched him outside of South Korean cinema you'd probably not think much of, except to a minor degree in The Magnificent Seven which was the only western film that didn't ENTIRELY waste his talent. In his home country though you have one of the most charismatic and really talented actors of his generation. Two of his previous performances that I've covered have been brilliant volcanic turns, performances based on the character holding it all in until key moments. While this performance is quite a bit different, though we also still get the expected measure of internalized intensity you'd expect from him. This particularly in the film's opening, which actually what one would probably think going into a Park film based on his later efforts, this as we initial open with an investigation in a violent excursion on the border, lead by Swiss army emissary Maj. Sophie E. Jean (Lee Young-ae). There we meet initially a largely silent Lee as Sergeant Lee, who seems hesitant to reveal anything about what happened exactly. The weight of the situation though can instantly read on Lee's face with his smouldering intensity as prevalent as ever. Lee showing a man who definitely knows much, and is holding much back, yet is also holding it all back in for now. 

Eventually we flashback into a most unexpected story for a Park Chan-wook film in particular, of Lee by chance coming across to North Korean soldiers (Song Kang-ho being one of them) who save his life during a military excursion that leads to a friendship between the men. Lee's performance really just needs to be said is pitch perfect, and really there is just something so wonderful about getting to see him in these genuinely sweet scenes of friendship. This as Lee really so naturally even creates the initial moment of coming together as natural moment, by just so bluntly making the interaction what a normal person, not necessarily soldier of an enemy nation, would do. This as he warns the men of the dangers, it is so earnest and in turn you get instantly the sense of connection that the men find as just people. We then follow him as he pursues the friendship initially through traded messages. Even these scenes of throwing the messages, Lee captures in his eyes just the strikingly sweet manner of a man just seeking friendship in a rather cold place. There is something so warm as we see each message across Lee's eyes, and he shows so much of what Lee is getting out of this relationship. This just in creating the most basic need for connection, and making it feel so real between these men, because in a way it is so basic to one's human need. 

I'll admit one might get an even greater pleasure out of Lee's performance here being knowledgeable of his later work given he would go on to play such tortured characters, where here in the flashback we get such beautiful moments of levity between the three men, and later four when Lee invites one of his South Korean comrades into the group. What we then just really get are these great genuine moments between the men just hanging out and having fun. This is totally winning, and again, seeing a bright smile on Lee's face is a particularly sweet sight to see. I especially love the moments where they get to become playful with one another in their technically serious positions. Such as a moment where Lee and one of his Northern friends trade spit and stare down on the border. Lee's overly serious expression that segues to the most earnest of smiles is just sheer perfection, and is absolutely heartwarming as well. The group creates this real investment in the friendship by making every interaction for so real between these guys, and you just feel you are often hanging out with them as they try to put aside the world when together. This against moments though of rising tensions where Lee is quite effective in showing in every interaction this growing fear in the man for all the men's safety as their meetings seem less and less safe for all of them. 

This leading to a final gathering to say their goodbyes that begins with the four at their most heartwarming in each and every interaction, but ends in tragedy as another Northern soldier walks into the gathering. It is this event that we are dissecting in the opening and as we return back to the present. This where we see Lee portraying again this very tight state of a personality, though something he slowly reveals a blistering guilt within his eyes. Again Lee is a master of the leaking of emotion with such poignancy, and this is again, when he meets up with one of his former friends again, and in his reaction we see such a palatable sadness in the man. In the flashbacks though we find the place of this guilt in an earlier interactions where Lee has a fantastic moment of just a hint of bluster in the soldier as he shows off his gun skills without actually having shot. In that moment he shows this effective arrogance of a soldier, though tempered in the moment of being challenged on it, Lee delivers this natural meekness to the moment showing this potent vulnerability related to the fear that is in the man. This coming out in the inciting incident where Lee makes some very bad instinctual reactions, and Lee wholly though makes this such a powerful moment, by playing them in showing the fear gripping the man making it this basically thoughtless reaction. This in showing the man not committing a purposeful cruelty but rather a senseless moment defined by nerves not hate. In turn, as is the case for most Lee leading performances it seems, his final moments on screen are absolutely devastating. This as his eyes wholly convey the man reliving the incident in his head, and is heartbreaking in showing the sense of shame and guilt that suddenly explode out of the man. Lee in turn giving a seemingly senseless action in the end, a moment of deeply felt personal pain wholly enveloping the man. Lee delivers yet another great performance here creating such a heartwarming depiction of a man finding friendship, but also a shattering portrait of a man facing his failure living up to this connection.

96 comments:

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

5 #4 for my favourite Korean actor :) He's devastating here, and he's honestly my win for the year as well.

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on the rest of the cast?

Sean Ingram said...

Alright, he is taking the overall win as well possibly. I think the overall lineup would look like this:
1. Lee
2. Pearce
3. Dafoe
4. Hanks
5. Cusack
6. Bale(Considering, Louis loves High Fidelity WAY more than American Psycho)
7. Sol

Anonymous said...

What is everyone's favorite Korean actresses?

I've been meaning to get into Korean cinema

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top 5 Byung-hun Lee performances.

Michael McCarthy said...

Despite the stellar people involved with this film, I was kinda caught off guard by how much I loved it. Not holding my breath too hard for Lee upsetting Pearce but I’d love to see him take the win.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Watched The Innocents earlier today on Deborah Kerr's 100th birthday (!) and was very impressed. Will gladly watch it again in the future.


Deborah Kerr - 5 (just edges out her work in Tea and Symphony)
Martin Stephens - 4.5
Pamela Franklin - 4.5, very close to a 5
Megs Jenkins - 4
Michael Redgrave - 3.5 (surprised by his incredibly limited screentime)

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

First, I thought Song was supporting (substantial role but none of it is from his perspective. For me it's Lee's story, with the other Lee being the one who is more on the border for me.)

Lee - 4(The least interesting role in a way in that she is largely a device to set up the main story. I do think she is good though in portraying that specific role in sort of unraveling the exposition with this combination of curiosity, incisiveness and empathy within her performance. I liked what she brought here to the point that I actually do wish we might've gotten more of her character in a different film almost in a way. Anyways though, she's like Edmond O'Brien in The Killers, where her role is lead, but lead in a way that there to setup the more interesting lead by design. Still I felt she was quite good even within that limitation.)

Kim and Shin - 4/3.5(More than anything I liked what both brought in terms of creating that camaraderie in their scenes together. I especially liked his moments early on with Lee in creating the sense of the characters searching for something together naturally as friends. In addition though I found Kim's additional scenes moving in showing his own reaction to what has happened. Shin has the least to do, but I liked everything he did with what he had.)

Well the one thing I do know, is #4 is the Good The Bad The Weird and #5 is The Man Standing Next. Parsing the top 3 is a bit difficult particularly at the moment.

Anonymous:

Well from what I've seen is unlike say the grand trio of Song, Lee and Choi, Korean actresses seem to be in general less prolific. I mean it blows my mind a bit that Lee Young-ae has only 7 films to her credit. But here's the actresses I've liked the most that I've seen at least 2 of their films.

Lee Young-ae
Kim Min-hee
Bae Doona
Lee Jung-eun

8000S said...

Louis: Did you ever give your thoughts on the cinematography of It's a Wonderful Life and White Heat? I seem to recall you giving them a long time ago, but I can't find them.

Marcus said...

Louis: Any chance of Lee taking the win/going up to #2 for 2005?

Emi Grant said...

Anonymous: I'd second Bae Doona's shout out from Louis and add Jeon Do-Yeon to that list. From what I gather, she seems to be one of the bigger names from South Korean cinema and has quite a range as an actress from what little I've seen of her.

I think the easiest way to get into South Korean films is to start off of the bigger names like Bong Joon-Ho, Park Chan-wook & Kim Jee-woon and make your way from there, while also following the filmography of the grand trio of Song/Lee/Choi.

Calvin Law said...

A big thing with Korean actors is that TV is such a big deal over there that a lot of them end up doing WAY more television than film.

Anyway, yeah, Lee is incredible here, agree with Michael that a win wouldn’t be undeserved. Honestly, I even think his performance here is kind of underrated in a way.

Luke Higham said...

Happy for Lee and I'm relieved we're getting a 10 lineup for Supporting Actor.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What are your updated Oscar nomination predictions for October?

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello folks! Tell your TOP10 best director, lead actress and supporting actress in 2000:

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
10º Kate Hudson - Almost Famous
9º Holly Hunter - O Brother, Where Art Thou?
8º Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove
7º Charlize Theron - The Yards
6º Marcia Gay Harden - Pollock
5º Denise Fraga - A Dog's Will
4º Catherine Deneuve - Dancer in the Dark
3º Harriet Sansom Harris - Memento
2º Julie Walters - Billy Elliot
1º Jennifer Connelly - Requiem for a Dream

LEAD ACTRESS
10º Joan Allen - The Contender
9º Michelle Rodriguez - Girlfight
8º Juliette Binoche - Code Unkwnown
7º Zhang Zhiyi - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
6º Michelle Yeoh - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
5º Laura Linney - You Can Count on Me
4º Sanaa Lathan - Love & Basketball
3º Joan Chen - In the Mood for Love
2º Björk - Dancer in the Dark
1º Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream

DIRECTOR
10º M. Night Shyamalan - Unbreakable
9º Ridley Scott - Gladiator
8º Darren Aronofsky - Requiem for a Dream
7º Alejandro González Iñárritu - Amores Perros
6º Lars Von Trier - Dancer in the Dark
5º Joel Coen - O Brother, Where Art Thou?
4º Edward Yang - Yi Yi
3º Ang Lee - Crouching Tiger, Hidden
2º Christopher Nolan - Memento
1º Wong Kar-Wai - In the Mood for Love

Tim said...

your thoughts on the Editing of Pirates of The Caribbean and the Screenplay of The Spectacular Now?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could you check out Code Unknown with Binoche, I forgot to list it.

Louis Morgan said...

The Guilty is pointless as a remake as every choice that is different from the original, makes it lesser than the original (especially some pretty bad additions near the end). Most of the new choices feel perfunctory like the whole forest fire establishing piece that is dropped after a bit like Pizzolatto forgot about it at a certain point and others feel "Hollywood" in the worst of ways. Then Fuqua directs with the idea in mind that the audience needs to be spelled out the emotion of every scene and again just lessens from the strength of the original's screenplay (which is left mostly intact). Although due to that screenplay still existing it is probably one of Fuqua's better films because of that honestly, but one should never watch this version when the original exists. This particularly as well I think due to the central performance, where while Gyllenhaal is largely good, he oversells several key moments, and suffers greatly in comparison to Cedergren.

Gyllenhaal - 3.5

Off to the Many Saints of Newark.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Extended thoughts on Gyllenhaal.

And enjoy. I hope you'll save someone from that cast. From what I've been hearing, hopefully Nivola.

Anonymous said...

Louis: As they're all the rage now, would you ever be interested in checking out a K-drama?

Louis Morgan said...

The Many Saints of Newark, I liked, but it is a mess. This as it feels like Chase crammed a 10 episode season into a 2 hour film, this with how many threads are just touched upon, and how few are resolved even in a purposefully unresolved kind of way. The pacing in turn is very off, and constantly did I want it to narrow its focus, or give more focus to some of the other bits in there. Trailers are also very misleading in that the Tony's scenes feel often like required afterthoughts rather a concurrent story with Nivola's. This was an instance of very much liking the scenes I liked, but wish it was a whole lot more cohesive than it is. Honestly think Chase should've just done another series, or at least miniseries, instead. Also I strongly recommend passing on it until you've watched the series, as I'm sure much of what I got out of it was from having watched the series.

Saving Nivola.

Odom - 3.5
Farmiga - 3.5
Bernthal - 3
Stoll - 3.5/4
Liotta - 3.5(Might've saved him if he only gave his second performance.)
Gandolfini - 3.5/4
Magnussen - 2.5
Magaro - 1 (I knew it)
Diaz - 3
De Rossi - 3
Imperioli - 3

Anonymous said...

Louis: thoughts on the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I feel I definitely have for White Heat at least.

Marcus:

Probably not, as much as I love this performance, but not a hard no.

Anonymous:

All unchanged, except in Actress Stewart would be my predicted winner now, and I'll swap Driver in Supporting Actor for the "stand out" supporting actor from Licorice Pizza. From the trailer, maybe Cooper, but we'll definitely have to wait to see. Hard to say. I know the talk is that McDormand will not be leaving lead but Lady Macbeth is definitely a supporting role so I could easily see that not holding if she misses SAG.

Tim:

The original is largely a well edited film, even if I feel on a screenplay level it is a bit longer than it needs to be, but I definitely don't think that is on an editing level. This as the film moves on a nice step and has a strong clarity in action, and a pacing to the action scenes, something very much lost in the sequels. Otherwise just an effective bit of action editing in general doing some strong juggling and again feels like stuff happening as we got in the later sequels. Those also more victim to screenplays really, but editing didn't make things brilliant either.

Honestly don't think much of the screenplay. Feel it hits some fairly obvious and arbitrary points of a high school guys. This particularly with his backstory and his relationship with his mother feeling something built to provide depth yet in doing so feels hollow by just how on the nose a lot of it is. I think in the teenager interaction it is a bit better, even if there, there is a bit of over done moments regarding the uncool girl finding her cool and so forth. There's good moments in the writing here and there, but I don't think it is an overly inspired piece.

Luke:

Gyllenhaal - (I mean much of this we get Gyllenhaal more in just decent enough leading man role. This in providing enough sort of dynamic depth in portraying the character's early frustrations and sense of personal demons. The moments as they build though is where I think he often loses it this towards just making the scenes feel "Important" more so than this natural spiral of frustration that we got with Cedergren. Or his big final moment of Gyllenhaal that feels truly like an actor delivering a monologue for all his mite, against a man with demons intimately opening himself up in a moment of powerful vulnerability. One definitely feels like a performance while the other feels like the character. Not all of Gyllenhaal's performance is like that, but it does feel like Gyllenhaal wants to mine greatness from it, rather than naturally finding it through the strength of the writing. It is fascinating to compare Cedergren's work that is so much more powerful, while making a whole lot less noise.)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I mean I feel I have enough US dramas already to see.

Hold off on a few to avoid spoilers.

Farmiga - (She does proper justice to Marchand's overbearing personality that just wears on you, though there is more sympathy for her here. She doesn't over do the mannerisms though naturally finding them in a way that is humorous, but doesn't lose the idea of this character who is both seemingly the worst wife ever, however you also see entirely how much of a victim she is at times as well. She balances it well but we also just get glimpses of her that is a little frustrating.)

Bernthal - (The least ambitious performance in the film in that we just get typical Bernthal, to his credit it works more or less, but also it doesn't really feel special in any way.)

Stoll - (I mean the greatest in terms of wholly embodying the original part, and just has it down pat. Just everything about him exudes the manner that Chianese brought to the role. This in entirely finding his distinct manner that it feels natural, while also managing to convey the emotions of his character in a way that feels honest beyond that. It goes beyond imitation and just works on its own accord. Again though I wish the film gave him more to do however.)

Liotta - (First performance is classic typecast of Liotta of angry Italian guy. I just find it such a boring gear for him. His other performance though is quite good in this sort of interesting philosophical role that honestly features in my favorite scenes of the film. This as Liotta brings a nice measured turn in showing a man with history of the same kind of violence, though now deals it with this careful kind of self-reflection now.)

Gandolfini - (Achieves the same thing as Stoll and Farmiga, though I think he had a bit extra help for obvious reasons. Gandolfini though definitely suggests his own presence even within the certain degree of imitation of what his father had done. What is annoying though is the film doesn't do enough with it, this as again Tony feels a little tacked on at times, and wish we got more of the relationship with his Uncle, we do, but we also frustratingly don't. Gandolfini though is good in showing the beginnings of the charisma, but also the frustrations and anger as well.)

Magnussen - (Actually expected him to be the terrible one, but...he's actually kind of mostly forgettable. He thankfully doesn't go over board with the Paulie mannerisms, but he also makes no distinct mark in the role either really.)

Magaro - (I'll admit pulling off Silvio would've been tough no matter what, but doing what Magaro does, which is trying for a one to one imitation was probably the worst move. This as Silvio is ridiculous but works just cause almost, Magaro, though is just ridiculous, and an imitation of such a specific performance comes off as extra ridiculous. Whole time it feels just like a guy imitating Silvio, which in turn makes him utterly unbelievable the whole time.)

Diaz - (Excellent casting more than anything.)

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the direction of Perks of being a Wallflower?

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Felicity Jones as an actress and any missed opportunities for her?

I feel like she has the talent(and some high profile roles in her career) to be bigger than she is.

Matthew Montada said...

Just got back from watching Titane. I didn’t think anything would top The Green Knight as my favorite movie of the year, but this film somehow managed to do it.

Here is my Letterboxd review:
https://boxd.it/2aVCnx

Cast Ratings:
Vincent London - 4.5 or 5
Agathe Rousselle - 4.5 or 5

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...
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Calvin Law said...

I've been muting Titane on my timeline, so hyped for it but also don't want any of it spoiled for me, and will probably not be able to see it until December.

Aidan Pittman said...

I also just saw Titane and... uh... yeah, I'm gonna need a second.

8000S said...

Louis: How do you think Robert Ryan would have fared as Commissioner Gordon and Captain Ahab? I've seen some people suggesting him for those roles. Ryan playing a honest cop would have been a nice change of pace.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I guess I'm driving an hour and a half to see Titane on Sunday now.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Trigger warning: death of a loved one.

My stepfather passed away from post-COVID-19 complications last night. I don't know why I'm writing about this here, I just feel incredibly frustrated and angry being so far away from home. To everyone, please stay safe, and tell your loved ones that you love them. I'm sorry for being personal here again.

Louis Morgan said...

No need to apologize Tahmeed, the sincerest condolences for your loss.

RatedRStar said...

Tahmeed: Big cuddles for you, I am terribly sorry to hear about his passing, there's very little one can say in situations like this other than, take solace in your friends, talk to them, keep in touch with family and talk to them, because it will make you feel somewhat less alone knowing that there are people who are in the same situation as you.

Being open on a blog like this is never a bad thing, that's what blogs like this are here for, not just to discuss movies/Oscars but to discuss our own lives if we feel we need to, I mean take me for example, I always used to rant about my job, it can help talking on a blog with people that have been here for years and may have experienced a similar thing.

Aidan Pittman said...

Tahmeed: My condolences to you and your family. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: My condolences. May you find the strength to get through this dire situation.

Sean Ingram said...

Tahmeed: My condolences as well buddy. May God give you strength to go through these hard times. No need to apologize to people that you, at this point, have come to know really well for years.

Emi Grant said...

Tadhmeed: Very sorry to hear that, man. My thoughts will be with you and your family. Don't worry about opening up here, I can guarantee you that your presence is always welcomed and appreciated. Through both highs and lows.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed: I am so sorry, man. Keep strong.

Luke Higham said...

Not sure if this is the appropriate time but I saw No Time To Die. It's a good Bond film with a terrific send off for Craig's portrayal of 007. I do however think it was 20 minutes too long and Rami Malek's characterization isn't developed well enough from a writing standout that it's difficult to care about him even though he's clearly trying and is rather good at certain moments.

And this was my first visit to a cinema since Tenet.

Craig - 4.5 (If he had a much better developed antagonist to work off of, this could've given Casino Royale a run for its money as he's great in the more emotional moments)
Malek - 3
Seydoux - 4
Lynch - 3
Whishaw - 3
Harris - 2.5 (Kinda wasted if I'm being honest)
Wright - 3
Waltz - 2.5
Fiennes - 3.5

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I am going to see it next Sunday, it'll be my first cinema experience since Rise of Skywalker in 2019. Funny that, the last time I saw a film in the cinemas, Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez and Antoine Griezmann were Barcelona players.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Barcelona are in the shit and as a Chelsea fan, I couldn't be happier.

8000S said...

Tahmeed: My condolences to you and your family.

Luke Higham said...

*writing standpoint. Damn predictive text.

Matthew Montada said...

Luke: your rating for Ana De Armas in No Time To Die?

Luke Higham said...

Matthew: A 3, brief yet fun work from her.

Matthew Montada said...

Tahmeed: very sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family.

Matt Mustin said...

Everyone seems to be split on No Time to Die, which makes me all the more excited for it. Also, is it a good idea to rewatch Spectre first?

Tahmeed: My sincere condolences.

Calvin Law said...

Tahmeed: I’m so sorry Tahmeed, condolences to you and your family in this tough time.

John Smith said...

Im so sorry for your and your familys loss Tahmeed. I wish only the best for you and your family. Feel free to send me a message on messenger if you want to talk

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello Louis and folks.
Taking advantage of the release of No Time to Die, I want to play Quiz with you to talk about the worst and best of the James Bond 007 series.
PS: Let's just consider the movies that were produced by Eon Productions. So no Casino Royale (1967) or Never Say Never Again (1983).

Let's start with the WORST ...
Film: The Man With the Golden Gun
Director: Guy Hamilton - The Man With the Golden Gun
James Bond: Roger Moore - The Man with the Golden Gun
Bond-Girl: Mary Goodnight - The Man with the Golden Gun
Villain: Gustav Graves - Die Another Day
Henchman: Nick Nack - The Man with the Golden Gun
Ensemble: The Man with the Golden Gun
Production Design: Diamonds Are Forever
Sound Editing: Die Another Day
Sound Mixing: A View to a Kill
Score: A View to a Kill
Editing: The Man with the Golden Gun
Visual Effects: Die Another Day
Costume Design: Moonraker
Cinematography: A View to a Kill
Makeup and Hairstyling: You Only Live Twice
Location: Brazil (bizarre Bond Shift from Amazon to Iguazu Falls) - Moonraker
Opening Title Sequence: The Man with the Golden Gun
Song: "Moonraker" - Moonraker

Now let's talk about the BEST...
Film: Casino Royale
Director: Sam Mendes - Skyfall
James Bond: Sean Connery - Goldfinger
Bond-Girl: Major Anya Amasova / Agent Triple X - The Spy Who Loved Me
Villain: Raoul Silva - Skyfal
Henchman: Donald "Red" Grant - From Russia With Love
Ensemble: Skyfall
Production Design: Casino Royale
Sound Editing: Skyfall
Sound Mixing: Casino Royale
Score: Dr. No
Editing: Casino Royale
Visual Effects: Skyfall
Costume Design: From Russia With Love
Cinematography: Skyfall
Makeup and Hairstyling: Skyfall
Location: Montenegro - Casino Royale
Opening Title Sequence: Casino Royale
Song: "Skyfall" - Skyfall

While you? What are the worst and best movies in the series created by Ian Fleaming?
COMMENT!

HTT said...

Tahmeed:
So sorry for your loss. My own father passed away in April from cancer, so I feel you. Just remember to keep safe and strong.

Unknown said...

Louis: how would you rank 2014 Emmy lineup for best actor in a drama series of Cranston, Daniels, Hamm, Harrelson, McConaughey and Spacey with ratings?? It was a solid lineup so I am interested in knowing....

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Tahmeed:Sincere condolences to you and your relatives.

I've watched Nobody for the first time. As a whole it's a highly entertaining and captivating action flick (though John Wick borrowings were very easy to spot, yet it didn't bother me since it was simply so fun to watch). Not gonna spoil anything, but my favorite part was how the script toyed with the title's double meaning throughout its duration.

Bob Odenkirk-4.5 (almost touching 5/5 rating there)
Connie Nielsen-4
Christopher Lloyd-3
Aleksey Serebryakov-3
RZA-3
Michael Ironside-2

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

I have to admit I have not re-watched the film since it came out, but it appears to be the starting point for diminishing returns for Chbosky who basically directs with overarching the same perspective each time. Perks is purest form of that approach, which is intensely earnest, while also being very much a novelist in many techniques, particularly in terms of the use narration. He details more frequently than directs and again is very much the novel writer. For me, I didn't love his initial approach, though I think overall is more than competent in delivering a scene, though occasionally falls into overly obvious choices particularly towards the end of the film. Overall it is a novel adapting his novel and in that sense is a true to his own work in that regard, particularly with the use of the Aunt subplot which certainly would likely have been handled differently by making a filmmaker. I can understand those who see the appeal in really this technique of his, as it does offer something different, which becomes less and less as he works with other materials, but here if you like it, it is truly it in it most straight forward way.

Anonymus:

In general I'm a fan, though she doesn't quite hit the ability to make for nothing roles, but few can accomplish that trick. I think at her best she combines a natural grace with a genuine charm and emotional resonance of her work. This as she'll often find a bit more in her best roles than seem even on her page, as she really was the best part as the supportive wife in The Theory of Everything, and made the most out by exploring some ideas that frankly could've been hand waved. Or my favorite performances of her in The Aeronauts and A Monster Calls, where I think she brings such a powerful commitment to every moment whether it be the quiet tragedy in Monster, or making every moment of the high flying adventure ring honestly.

I don't know about missed opportunities, as she hasn't been around all that long, however shame An Invisible Woman was so dull and I think Disney probably cut out most of the edge of her character in Rogue One.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Easy to see him as Gordon, Ahab is a tough role just because it needs such an operatic quality, though Ryan certainly can excel as a sadistic seaman so maybe.

Brazinterma:

Worst/Best

Film: Die Another Day/Casino Royale (The bad Moore are at least entertainingly bad)
Director: Lee Tamahori - Die Another Day/Sam Mendes - Skyfall
James Bond: Roger Moore - A View to Kill /Daniel Craig - Casino Royale
Bond-Girl: Rosie Carver - Live and Let Die/Tracy di Vicenzo - On Her Majesty's Secret Service (HM Vesper Lynd)
Villain: Gustav Graves - Die Another Day/Raoul Silva - Skyfall
Henchman: Wint and Kidd - Diamonds Are Forever/Donald Red Grant - From Russia With Love
Ensemble: Die Another Day/Casino Royale
Production Design: Diamonds Are Forever/Skyfall
Sound Editing: Diamonds Are Forever/Skyfall
Sound Mixing: The Man With the Golden Gun/Skyfall
Score: The Man With the Golden Gun/On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Editing: Quantum of Solace/Casino Royale
Visual Effects: Die Another Day/Skyfall
Costume Design: On Her Majesty's Secret Service/Casino Royale
Cinematography: A View to a Kill/Skyfall
Makeup and Hairstyling: You Only Live Twice/Skyfall
Location: Louisiana/Hashima Island
Opening Title Sequence: Die Another Day/Casino Royale
Song: "Die Another Day"/"Skyfall"

Unknown:

I have only seen Harrelson, McConaughey and Cranston. Close call between those three, but I think I'd go Cranston, McConaughey, Harrelson, however all three are stellar. Although whoever decided to put the True Detective boys in series rather than mini-series, screwed McConaughey out of an Emmy (But hey True Detective definitely contributed to his Oscar win.)

Matthew Montada said...

Aidan: do you think you’re ready to say your thoughts on Titane yet? If so, what did you think? Also, what would be your ratings for the cast?

Unknown said...

Louis: So I have a question?? Considering you are saying that it's a ''close' ' call between Cranston(Ozymandias having arguably his best acting performance in the entire show), McConaughey and Harrelson, so is it fair to say that McConaughey's and Harrelson's performances(especially McConaughey's) is one of your most favorite performances in any medium from the past decade?? Especially since you consider Cranston's work in Breaking Bad the greatest in TV history.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: how well do you think John Cusack would have done as Benjamin Braddock (The Graduate) and in what decade? And who do you think would have been a better fit for Tom Ripley instead of Matt Damon and why?

Louis Morgan said...

Unknown:

Well, yes, they also make my favorite tv performances of all time, just not as highly as Cranston. Also consider it to be the personal best of both actors. The close call though, also in in that season McConaughey and Harrelson had to fully establish their characters there, while Cranston was returning to Walter again, where much of his major transformations had already taken place.

Lucas:

I mean he would have to be the 80's, though I don't quite see him as ideal, as his awkwardness is more passive than should be the case for Benjamin, though I don't see it as impossible.

I could actually see Jude Law working as a dual role, considering he is supposed to be impersonating Dickie to begin with. Otherwise though Joaquin Phoenix certainly always had the potential to pull something like that off, based on Primal Fear, I think Edward Norton (who apparently wanted the role) would've done a superior version of what Damon did, I could also see Sam Rockwell doing something very different with the part, closer to Hopper, yet effective all the same. Tom Cruise who also was considered I think could've gone either way. DiCaprio (who was also considered), I don't think would've been very good at that time.

John Smith said...

Louis thougts on the scene in succession where Logan hits Roman? I felt that kieran culkin really sold that scene and gave so much depth to his charachter in that small moment.

Calvin Law said...

Really, really enjoyed No Time to Die and it left the appropriate final punch, and I'll just leave it at that.

Craig - 4.5
Malek - tempted to go into Wiseau territory
Seydoux - 4
Lynch - 4
Whishaw - 3.5
Harris - 3
Wright - 3
Waltz - 2.5
Fiennes - 3
Magnussen - 2.5
de Armas - 3.5 (could go higher honestly, loved every second she was onscreen)
Dencik - 1 (just plain bad, no Wiseaus for him)
Kinnear - 2.5

Luke Higham said...

Okay, perhaps I was being too nice to Malek.

Bryan L. said...

Maleks’ post-Oscar boost isn’t off to a great start. At the risk of sounding too mean, I hope we don’t have another Redmayne on our hands. Granted, Redmayne did have a couple of bad performances before TTOE.

Sean Ingram said...

Louis: Before posting the final rankings for 2000's lead, are you gonna re visit some performances and their movies from the original overall lineup?? I hope you do, especially the top 4(Pearce, Dafoe, Hanks and Bale) before posting the overall rankings...

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: Redmayne had pretty much only bad performances before his Oscar win.

Luke Higham said...

Matt: That's not entirely true, he was good in Les Mis even though I preferred Aaron Tveit next to him.

Matt Mustin said...

Ehh, he was kinda bad in Les Mis, I thought.

Tim said...

Tahmeed: oh man that's awful to hear. I hope especially your Mom is doing okay

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I’ve only seen him in My Week With Marilyn and Les Mis if we’re talking his pre-TTOE work, so I don’t know how he fared in his other turns before that.

I’ve heard horror stories about Hick though.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Very sorry to hear about your loss, man. My heart goes out to you and your family.

Louis Morgan said...

John Smith:

Downright brilliant scene that really shows several old dynamics that probably existed since childhood for the Roys. This as Cox portrays the moment as though it is nothing in the reaction to the hit. He's hit Roman before, and it doesn't even phase him in any regard to do so. This against Strong who's great in showing Kendall break his season 2 state for a moment to fulfill the role of the defending older brother, in a moment of instinct as well. This against Culkin who shows really what makes Roman the way he is, as everything is a joke, right to being hit, this as just one big defense mechanism that defines him.

Sean:

I tend to watch performances if I think they'll be any movement, so I did watch some of those.

Bryan:

He's atrocious in the Good Shepherd.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Not sure if this has been covered before, but is there any chance of Lucas Hedges being upgraded for "Manchester by the Sea"?

I still give his performance a solid 4 for a couple reasons. The first is his Boston accent, which is one of the better and more subtle ones I've heard in that he never draws much attention to it. The second is just the internalization of his emotional work, which is consistently strong (ex. the "I can't beat it" scene). And honestly, though I agree his outburst is the weakest moment of the performance, it's only for a few line deliveries, as the rest of the scene is pretty believable.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

No chance, my reservations will not change.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Brief, and yet concise.

Aidan Pittman said...

Matthew: Still kinda processing it, but I can give thoughts. It certainly is wild, though I thought that Ducournau did well in portraying that in an effective and engaging way (though it certainly isn't easy to watch at times) while still offering a surprisingly strong emotional grasp. I am more conflicted about the flow and shifts of the narrative, but regardless it is certainly an effective experience.

I feel confident about 5s for both Rousselle and Lindon right now, I felt that they were the strongest parts of the film.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the scene from The Public Enemy where Tom gets wounded. I always liked the use of rain for that scene and it allowed Wellman to create some iconic shots.

Matthew Montada said...

Aidan: i would also give 5s for London and Rousselle. 2 of some of my favorite performances of 2021.

8000S said...

Redmayne in general is just mediocre. Seriously, how people on the set didn't laugh at his ridiculous voice in Jupiter Ascending is beyond me.

Mitchell Murray said...

Off handed question: Is there anyone here who's seen the 2008 "Spectacular Spider-Man" animated series?

I may have briefly mentioned it before, but because my life's gotten a little busier as of late, it's really the last show I've checked out (this was a few weeks ago, for reference). Nonetheless, I would greatly reccomend it for living up to that titular adjective; It's a fun blend of comic storylines and certain aspects of the Raimi films, but more than anything, it's a deceptively well concieved series overall.

Matt Mustin said...

Mitchell: It's the best adaptation of Spider-Man ever.

Sean Ingram said...

Luke: Bro, I want to remind you that few weeks ago, I asked you for your top 10 favorite lead male performances of 2010s decade?? Have you decided on that yet?? You did say that Mikkelsen was your number 1 with ease, would love to know the rest....

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: Hard to argue against that, to be frank; Only "Into the Spiderverse" gives it competition for me.

8000S said...

Mitchell: SSM is awesome. Really awesome. I do prefer Avengers EMH a little more though.

By the way, you once asked people for thoughts on the new Dragon Ball Super movie. I personally thought it was fine, even if I do have some pet peeves with it.

Mitchell Murray said...

8000s: Referring to the "Broly" film, I'll admit thats the only bit of "Dragonball" content I've watched all the way through (Even though I have a lot of second hand knowledge about the franchise).

On that note, actually, the youtube versus series I watch "Death Battle" did release a new episode last week... Goku Black Vs Reverse Flash. And hilariously, they got one of the guys behind the "it was me Barry" meme to voice Eobard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDTVSeMZnI

8000S said...

Louis: I also noticed that you don't have Brando's performance in The Formula in your ranking for 1980 Supporting. Thoughts and rating for him?

Luke Higham said...

Sean:

1. Mikkelsen
2. Phoenix (The Master)
3. Gosling (BR:2049)
4. Dafoe (The Lighthouse)
5. Stanton (Lucky)
6. Garfield (Silence)
7. Gyllenhaal (Nightcrawler)
8. Pattinson (The Lighthouse)
9. Gosling (First Man)
10. Oldman (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy)

I didn't enjoy ranking this at all. Hate leaving out Oscar Isaac and Adam Sandler.

Sean Ingram said...

I understand, Isaac was spectacular in his movie. Incredible list though. Flawless.

Anonymous said...

Spain submitted a movie called "The Good Boss" for Best International Feature.
What an idiotic decision.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Wow, I'm stunned that they've snubbed Almodóvar.

Marcus said...

Louis: Would you be willing to add your top 5's for Best Actress and Supporting Actress on a link on the right, similar to what you've done for Best Director?

Luke Higham said...

Marcus: Top 10s would make more sense though best wait until he finishes the bonus rounds because I like getting his 5s, 4.5s and 4s on the results pages. I think Cinematography would be a better addition at this moment in time.

I could email his rankings (5s and 4.5s) that I compiled on a document if you like.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know any blog similar to Louis but focused on the actresses' performances? Who knows, put the link.

Tim said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPcWgLtzLC0


thoughts on this?

BRAZINTERMA said...

My bets on Louis 2000 winners:

PICTURE: Memento
DIRECTOR: Christopher Nolan - Memento
ACTOR: Guy Pearce - Memento
ACTRESS: Bjork – Dancer in the Dark
SUPPORTING ACTOR: Malcolm McDowell - Gangster No. 1
SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Jennifer Connelly - Requiem for a Dream
ENSEMBLE: Yi Yi
PRODUCTION DESIGN: In the Mood for Love
SOUND EDITING: O Brother, Where Art Thou?
SOUND MIXING: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
SCORE: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
EDITING: Memento
VISUAL EFFECTS: Gladiator
COSTUME DESIGN: In the Mood for Love
CINEMATOGRAPHY: In the Mood for Love
MAKEUP & HAIRSTYLING: Shadow of the Vampire
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: Memento
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: O Brother, Where Art Thou?
SONG: "I've Seen It All" – Dancer in the Dark

While you? COMMENT!

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I believe I have given thoughts on that exact scene.

I mean it is such a forgettable movie I'm sure I just forgot, Brando is mostly there to rattle off some terrible boring exposition that goes on forever, he's not terrible or even as lazy as he can be. It is a whole lot of nothing, much like the film itself.

Anonymous:

There used to be several, sadly they've all vanished just about, there's Fritz and the Oscars, his updates a very infrequent, but it's something at least.