Wednesday 25 March 2020

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1996

And the Nominees Were Not:

Charlton Heston in Hamlet

Ed Harris in The Rock

Peter Stormare in Fargo

Harry Belafonte in Kansas City


Eric Tsang in Comrades: Almost A Love Story

51 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Stormare
2. Harris
3. Tsang
4. Heston
5. Belafonte

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on:

David Bowie & Michael Wincott - Basquiat
Mads Mikkelsen - Pusher
Chris Penn - The Funeral
Victoire Thivisol - Ponette
The Cast of Emma
The Cast of Ridicule
Quentin Tarantino - From Dusk Till Dawn
Katrin Cartlidge - Breaking The Waves
Kate Winslet/Rachel Griffiths - Jude
Lauren Bacall - The Mirror Has Two Faces
Kidman, Hershey, Bale, Mortensen and Parker in The Portrait Of A Lady

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And what are your ratings for Courtney Love and Kate Winslet.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: And Harvey Keitel & Juliette Lewis as well?

Also, who do you think would’ve been a better choice instead of Meg Ryan for Courage Under Fire? Someone with a more inherent “authority” presence perhaps?

Mitchell Murray said...

Not sure how to predict this line up, honestly. I saw Branagh's "Hamlet" way back in high school, and have only watched bits and pieces of "The Rock". All I can say is that Stormare is one of the several great performances in "Fargo".

1) Stormare
2) Tsang
3) Heston
4) Belafonte
5) Harris

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Stormare
2. Belafonte (something tells me there’s gonna be an upgrade here)
3. Heston
4. Harris
5. Tsang

Luke Higham said...

Louis: My request is Alan Rickman in Sense And Sensibility.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, I finally watched “Richard Jewell” today, and it was honestly quite decent. It’s nothing too groundbreaking just in terms of its template, but I would say it’s Eastwood’s best directed film since “American Sniper”. I thought the movie did a surprisingly good job of showing why people would’ve suspected Jewell - not to the extent of justifying the investigation, mind you, but simply in its way of implying the human errors at the heart of the FBI/Media frenzy. Again, it’s not a flawless piece, as there are definitely scenes and individual elements that could’ve been improved. And really, a lot of the film does sort of go through the motions of typical late era Eastwood, but with that said, it’s still a fairly competent and intriguing film overall.

Hauser - 4.5
Rockwell - 4
Bates - 3
Hamm - 3
Wilde - 2

And with all that, I’m now prepared to offer my official best supporting actress ranking of 2019:

1) Johansson (5)
2) Pugh (5)
3) Bates (3)
4) Dern (3)
5) Robbie (3)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could you watch:
101 Dalmations (Glenn Close is terrific)
Mother (Albert Brooks)
James And The Giant Peach
Muppet Treasure Island
Carla's Song
Citizen Ruth
Flirting With Disaster
Fly Away Home
Jane Eyre
Jerusalem
And The Island Of Dr. Moreau

Anonymous said...

Louis, could you watch The Ghost And The Darkness.

RatedRStar said...

1. Stormare
2. Tsang
3. Heston
4. Harris
5. Belafonte

Michael Patison said...

1. Peter Stormare
2. Eric Tsang
3. Charlton Heston
4. Harry Belafonte
5. Ed Harris

Calvin Law said...

1. Stromare
2. Heston
3. Harris
4. Tsang
5. Belafonte

Lucas Saavedra said...

1. Stormare
2. Heston
3. Harris
4. Tsang
5. Belafonte

Maciej said...

1.Stormare
2.Heston
3.Belafonte
4.Tsang
5.Harris

Matt Mustin said...

1. Stormare
2. Belafonte
3. Heston
4. Tsang
5. Harris

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Stormare
2. Belafonte
3. Heston
4. Tsang
5. Harris

PS: I think there will be a tie between Buscemi and Stormare

RatedRStar said...

Louis: You can answer this on the next post if you prefer, I have been watching every episode of What's My Line (currently on 1956) and looking back at previous comments I have never asked you this.

What are thoughts on John Daly, Dorothy Kilgallen, Arlene Francis and Bennett Cerf? in general and on the show.

GM said...

1. Stormare
2. Belafonte
3. Heston
4. Harris
5. Tsang

Anonymous said...

Luke, what ratings do you think these performances will get?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
Heston - 4.5/5 (One of the great two scene wonders)
Harris - 4.5
Tsang - 4.5 (Only one HK performance has ever received a five from Louis so the odds are against him)
Belafonte - 4.5/5

I'll probably switch my prediction around once Michael posts his.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Have you seen Looking For Richard yet.

Aidan Pittman said...

1. Stormare
2. Tsang
3. Heston
4. Harris
5. Belafonte

Matt Mustin said...

I don't know if anyone here is a Spongebob fan, but this is sort of brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afLFfRbghkc

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I am (or to be more accurate, was back in the day). Indeed sort of brilliant.

Razor said...

1. Stormare
2. Heston
3. Tsang
4. Belafonte
5. Harris

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Bowie - 4(A limited but good performance in creating the sort of abstract personality that is Warhol, however doing in a way that doesn't feel like just a caricature. Bowie manages to find actually this low key warmth within even his always off-beat delivery and manner, that creates the sense of the matching personality with Wright, in this particularly unique chemistry of two similar spirits both in how off-beat they are.)

Wincott - 4(The always underused Wincott is similar in that regard, although this thankfully is a bit more substantial work for him. This in granting his great voice to lending the right sort of verbose quality to the character's long posturing, and the right flamboyance in the manner of the dime store style philosopher. I particularly like though the energetic support in his scenes with Wright at being the salesman, and in turn delivers on the sense of betrayal, in his earned, big outburst once Basquiat has sold out and more importantly left him behind.)

Mikkelsen - 3.5(Mikkelsen is a delight in portraying the off-beat energy of the wild card friend, that really should've been in the whole film. He delivers both a camaraderie and a mania as well as the tricky friend. He just lights up the screen every second he is on it, and it is the film's major flaw that he exits so prematurely.)

Penn - 3(Penn here gives what is basically a wannabe Pesci performance. If Pesci had played this part it probably would've been amazing. Penn though goes big, but isn't nearly as effective or visceral in that regard. Where the problems most come in though is he needs to create something for the conclusion through his performance, which sadly he doesn't pull off. He has a fine moment in the explosive conclusion in the sorrow he expresses, but he doesn't find the nuance needed within the intensity.)

Thivisol - (Her performance more than anything is just impressive of her age, in just how believable she is in every point. The grief in her work is potent and particularly notable in how she doesn't appear to ever become repetitive within it even as the film is. This in portraying sort of the stages of the grief quite effectively within her work that carries a powerful naturalism. It's a striking performance to be sure, particularly in just how honest she is at every point both in just being a normal kid but also providing those more extreme emotions.)

Paltrow - (Kind of the audition for Shakespeare in a way, but I prefer her here. This in she delivers the needed over confidence of Emma wonderfully, along with the sort of combined qualities of sort of a ego within. This though while also offering a real charm in her work that manages to soften but not reduce those qualities within the character. This also running away with the Austen dialogues effectively, and providing a believable accent particularly as she doesn't at all stick out among genuine Brits.)

Collette - 3.5(Enjoyable and earnest as the sort of goofy friend as compared to Paltrow. She gives a sweet, slightly comic turn effectively, with just the right touches of pathos, naturally not too much, but just the right measure of it.)

Cumming - 3(Doing his typical thing, but a fine example of it.)

Northam - 3.5(Genuinely charming and winning, while also provide his own degree of cutting as well. Properly offering the sort of match for Emma in each instance effectively.)

Louis Morgan said...

McGregor - 3.5(Just a straight forward and positively charming turn with the focus on sort of chivalrous manner. Relatively straight forward however effectively so. Bonus half a point for singing.)

Rochefort - 4(Gives a proper sort of mentor turn in offering the right degree of quiet cutting in his own manner and remarks in attempting to prep his protege in the court. He though softens this well though with a striking undercurrent of a more genuine warmth and concern regarding the man's exploits.)

Ardant - 4(Gives the properly "juicy" turn that one may easily compare to Weisz in the Favourite, though not quite as striking as that turn. Still Ardant gives a nice combination of the sultry with a devilishness in her eyes. This in some of her best moments in just the joy she expresses in moments of interaction and reactions towards some of her schemes.)

Godreche - 4(Offers an appropriately sweet alternative essentially to Ardant, in portraying just an earnest passionate woman, without any devious intention. She manages to make herself sweet without being boring, bringing a real endearing quality in portraying the character's sort of spunk regarding her attempt at invention.)

Tarantino - 1.5(Tarantino should never be allowed to act, that is a fact in my view. There are great number of actors who would've been in the role. I'll say though his lizard like presence at least was not dramatically opposed to the character here. That isn't to say he's really *good* in the part, but as Tarantino performances go it is a better one...though that isn't saying much.)

Cartlidge - 4(Find her performance a bit underrated within the film, as she almost never gets mentioned. I liked though her sort of sensible reactions towards Watson throughout where she portrays so well the combination of disbelief, fear, but also concern for her friend. She manages to convey a real heartbreak in seeing her friend's mental breakdown and offers an essential heart to the film.)

Winslet/Griffiths - (Each are two sides of a coin essentially, with Winslet portraying sort of atypical manner in a depiction of naivety essentially, against Griffiths portraying a straightforward manner of being wholly knowing. Griffiths providing this though in a particularly striking way in just a few scenes collectively, in presenting a woman seemingly with an exact sense of her position, against Winslet's turn which at the very least presents well the same spirit that Eccleston provides.)

Bacall - 3.5(Really not a great role, however I'll say Bacall does a fine job of delivering on her old screwball chops at least in first being the quietly berating mother then turning it slightly in loving mother speech. The latter which she manages to deliver with a genuine warmth while not really compromising the rest of her work. She is the best part of her very disposable film, though I'm glad Binoche won.)

Kidman - 3.5(Kidman gives overall a fine performance in terms of portraying sort of the growth of the character in basically her interactions with the other characters. She conducts enough of a nuance within each phase of the role to be less than just a stand in for an idea. She doesn't delve as deeply, as you might expect from her better performance, but overall it is a decent turn from him.)

Louis Morgan said...

Bale - 2.5(He's in it, he's fine, but there isn't really much to note about his work one way or the other.)

Mortensen - 3(Fine work as the charming and good natured "dull man". He doesn't have much to do, but he's decent with what he has.)

Parker - 3(Parker's role is relatively limited but I did enjoy her certain slyness within her work. This in portraying sort of a personal game in her manner as she makes her little suggestions to Kidman's character.)

Hershey - (Well basically a less complicated version of Close's work in Dangerous Liasons as well, in that the hammer never quite drops for her either. She gives a good enough performance though in portraying sort of the false mentorish asides granted, against the personal scenes of portraying the bitter venom within the character.)

4.5's.

Bryan:

Keitel - 4(It is a good performance from him, though he honestly seems to be in a much better movie. This in the crime scenes Keitel manages to convey a real concern for his family, while also portraying that underlying despair as related to his wife. He's then terrific in portraying the slowly growing agency of the man as they face off the vampire, offering a gravitas within his own work, even among all the silliness.)

Lewis - 2.5(She's fine overall, but really doesn't have much to do other than be the survivor)

Holly Hunter, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Jodie Foster, Patricia Clarkson or Frances McDormand come to mind.

Anonymous:

I've seen it, circa HBO, motel room...1998.

RatedRStar:

Daly - (Fine announcing, in that he managed to bring a bit of wit in the straight forward presenting.)

Kilgallen - (Clearly murdered for knowing too much, I say that legitimately, though I don't by whom. In terms of the show I do think she provides a counterbalance in how she is taking it all so seriously compared to..)

Francis & Serf - (Both are just having a lot of fun with the show, and in an endearing way. In the films I have seen Francis in she is typically a nice bit of color to them, Serf...I've heard help publish some good novels.)

Luke:

Yes I've seen Looking For Richard. Good stuff, though I think Pacino kind just drops his examination of Shakespeare as a whole about half way through, making the first half the documentary the better half. I considered ranking Pacino, but it is a strange grey area, though I did quite like his Richard, along with his presentation of the actors sort of interpreting defining the parts. It is also just fun seeing Pacino having fun honestly, but I do wish he sort of kept with his thesis statement the whole way through, even though he came up with a nice ending for his Richard in terms of the dramatizations.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What rating would you give Pacino.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: From what you could recall, were Douglas and Kilmer any good.

Mitchell Murray said...

So now that I've seen the performance for myself I can ask this question..

Louis: Who would you have cast as Kathy Scruggs in "Richard Jewell?" Because honestly, as much as I didn't take to Wilde's performance, it's not like the script was helping her all that much.

BRAZINTERMA said...

1. Stormare
2. Belafonte
3. Heston
4. Harris
5. Tsang

Louis Morgan said...

Watched The Way Back. A bit underwritten overall honestly, though a decent showcase for Affleck, if no one else. Hits largely expected beats both as a sports and alcoholism drama, though not poorly. I wish the supporting roles had been better drawn, as there's Affleck, then just sort of vague representations around him. The montage/sport scenes are decent shot, but still nothing is too much of note, but nothing is bad either.

I suppose I should save Affleck at this venture.

Luke:

Hard to say, hence the non-ranking, because it isn't really a complete performance, just snippets of his Richard.

I recall they were fine, but the film was rather ridiculous in terms of its portrayal of the Lions.

Mitchell:

Well I wouldn't curse anyone to that role, as much as I do think Wilde played into the ludicrousness of it, particularly early on, it would've been a struggle for anyone to pull off in an entirely convincing fashion.

Anonymous said...

Louis & Luke, do you think we'll get Tenet this year.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: If possible, could I switch my request for Darsheel Safary's work in Taare Zameen Par to Aamir Khan's performance in the same film? Khan's supporting, and he's in my top 3 for 2007 Supporting, easily.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I could see it being delayed until October at the earliest. There's no way Nolan will put it on a streaming service as he's one of the biggest proponents of the theatrical experience.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: I'm pretty sure he'll allow it.

Calvin Law said...

It would be darkly hilarious if Tenet ended up on streaming. Having said that I hope it’ll come out in cinemas at some point.

moviefilm said...

1) Stormare
2) Tsang
3) Harris
4) Heston
5) Belafonte

Tim said...

5) Belafonte
4) Heston
3) Tsang
2) Harris
1) Stormare

RatedRStar said...

Louis: I am pretty sure Kilgallen was murdered also, I think the biggest clue for me is that her friend and fellow reporter died a few days after in the same way.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on these scenes from NOCFM in Japanese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6E9tmv8YGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSNFcU-SsEY

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your thoughts on this 2010s version of Ryan’s Daughter directed by Lara Von Trier?

Rosy: Carey Mulligan
Shaughnessy: Paul Bettany
Father Collins: Liam Cunningham
Michael: Eddie Marsan
Major Doryan: Joe Alwyn
Tom: Brendan Gleason

Bryan L. said...

Calvin: Sounds great, though that sounds more like a 2020s cast to me.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Shouldn't Tom Baker be higher on the '71 supporting overall.

Bryan L. said...

Good news: Simon Pegg in a dramatic role actually became a reality, as a film with him in such part is now out on Digital.

Bad news: It's about as indie as you can GET...(www.imdb.com/title/tt6744360/)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your ratings for Paul Giamatti in Man On The Moon and Philip Seymour Hoffman in The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Anonymous said...

Luke, your top 10 Richard Attenborough performances? With ratings

Luke Higham said...

1. 10 Rillington Place
2. Brighton Rock
3. Guns At Batasi
4. The Angry Silence
5. Seance On A Wet Afternoon
6. The Great Escape
7. Morning Departure
8. Doctor Dolittle
9. The Sand Pebbles
10. Jurassic Park

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I do think it is still possible, as the situation in China has apparently improved, so there's definite hope.

Tahmeed:

Done.

RatedRStar:

Yes definitely fishy, although I am not a conspiracy lover in general, JFK is one that has just a few too dangling oddities for my liking.

Anonymous:

Good Chigurh, but the gas station attendant is way off.

Same with Harrelson, but I guess overdubbing a drawl just is more likely to be ill-fitting.

Calvin:

Fantastic cast in every sense, except maybe Doryan, as I've liked Alwyn but I'm not quite sold. I mean was that not your George MacKay freebie? Also nice call on Michael, who'd be hard to pull off for anyone but I could see Marsan making it work.

Luke:

4's.