Sydney Greenstreet did not receive an Oscar nomination nor did Peter Lorre for portraying Superintendent George Grodman and Victor Emmric respectively in The Verdict.
The Verdict follows the murder investigation in gaslit London.
The film opens as we follow Greenstreet, this time on the side of the law, following the execution of a man he had led the investigation of only to learn the man was innocent due to the arrival of a key witness in the most inopportune time. Greenstreet has a most remarkable presence as a performer which certainly can be seen here. This role though I would say is far more interesting on paper than execution. Greenstreet opens with just a repeated simplistic scene of needing to present the Inspector contemplating his failure with a quietly needling guilt, not helped by his pompous replacement Buckley (George Coulouris) lording over his failure. He does that though I wouldn’t say I was deeply moved by what Greenstreet is doing but he delivers on it in a general sense. We soon find another murder that seems even more difficult to solve, which while Buckley is now leading the investigation, Greenstreet's Grodman seems always in orbit of the situation. Where the film enters its atypical section where it is constantly switching perspectives of the characters and plants so many seemingly red herrings in there just to throw everyone off the trail it would seem. One of these characters is George’s friend Victory played by Lorre, an artist also fascinated by crime.
Where we get a legendary duo who were in many films together since their great mutual villainy in The Maltese Falcon. Unlike that film though neither man is getting to enjoy a great character as Victor is vaguely drawn, no pun intended, what is there is mostly just that Lorre is innately a little interesting. This isn’t one of Lorre’s most interesting roles though we get a bit of him being a cad and some differing moments of fascination and fear around the investigation. Again I appreciate Lorre’s presence but as Lorre performances go it isn’t all that distinctive. I think this might be in part by the design of the film to keep you guessing as Lorre must only be “kind of” things that way he might be the killer as he acts kind of creepy, however kind of innocent too, kind of fearful, and it’s all a little too little for him to really play with. Speaking of that, Greenstreet stays mainly imperious as the inspector is always there with a comment, not always very interesting and the man seems a little blank. This too is to set up the mystery to lead to the spoilers, revelation that he is in fact the killer. Although a noble killer as he’s killed the killer of the original murder, though less noble in having done it in a way that framed an innocent man and to make Buckley look foolish. So in order to make it surprising Greenstreet was just kind of there, so the revelation should be time to sink his teeth in right? Wrong. Greenstreet is surprisingly muted in the delivery of every bit of revelation. He’s not bad but it does all feel a bit too matter of fact for announcing such a grand plan to everyone. Even his final aside to Lorre is fine but also just kind of exists more than really enlivens their characters into anything more. There’s nothing special about this team-up between the pair. It’s nice to have their presences but the roles don’t allow either to really run with anything and are victims of the film needing to preserve the mystery, though in doing so I don’t think makes the film terribly compelling. If I'm being perfectly honest I was more compelled by Coulouris and Joan Lorring, because it felt like they were actually able to define their characters. Which it is quite rare for Greenstreet and Lorre not to standout in one of their films but in this instance they really don't, though they're not bad, but look to their earlier collaborations for their far more memorable work.
The Verdict follows the murder investigation in gaslit London.
The film opens as we follow Greenstreet, this time on the side of the law, following the execution of a man he had led the investigation of only to learn the man was innocent due to the arrival of a key witness in the most inopportune time. Greenstreet has a most remarkable presence as a performer which certainly can be seen here. This role though I would say is far more interesting on paper than execution. Greenstreet opens with just a repeated simplistic scene of needing to present the Inspector contemplating his failure with a quietly needling guilt, not helped by his pompous replacement Buckley (George Coulouris) lording over his failure. He does that though I wouldn’t say I was deeply moved by what Greenstreet is doing but he delivers on it in a general sense. We soon find another murder that seems even more difficult to solve, which while Buckley is now leading the investigation, Greenstreet's Grodman seems always in orbit of the situation. Where the film enters its atypical section where it is constantly switching perspectives of the characters and plants so many seemingly red herrings in there just to throw everyone off the trail it would seem. One of these characters is George’s friend Victory played by Lorre, an artist also fascinated by crime.
Where we get a legendary duo who were in many films together since their great mutual villainy in The Maltese Falcon. Unlike that film though neither man is getting to enjoy a great character as Victor is vaguely drawn, no pun intended, what is there is mostly just that Lorre is innately a little interesting. This isn’t one of Lorre’s most interesting roles though we get a bit of him being a cad and some differing moments of fascination and fear around the investigation. Again I appreciate Lorre’s presence but as Lorre performances go it isn’t all that distinctive. I think this might be in part by the design of the film to keep you guessing as Lorre must only be “kind of” things that way he might be the killer as he acts kind of creepy, however kind of innocent too, kind of fearful, and it’s all a little too little for him to really play with. Speaking of that, Greenstreet stays mainly imperious as the inspector is always there with a comment, not always very interesting and the man seems a little blank. This too is to set up the mystery to lead to the spoilers, revelation that he is in fact the killer. Although a noble killer as he’s killed the killer of the original murder, though less noble in having done it in a way that framed an innocent man and to make Buckley look foolish. So in order to make it surprising Greenstreet was just kind of there, so the revelation should be time to sink his teeth in right? Wrong. Greenstreet is surprisingly muted in the delivery of every bit of revelation. He’s not bad but it does all feel a bit too matter of fact for announcing such a grand plan to everyone. Even his final aside to Lorre is fine but also just kind of exists more than really enlivens their characters into anything more. There’s nothing special about this team-up between the pair. It’s nice to have their presences but the roles don’t allow either to really run with anything and are victims of the film needing to preserve the mystery, though in doing so I don’t think makes the film terribly compelling. If I'm being perfectly honest I was more compelled by Coulouris and Joan Lorring, because it felt like they were actually able to define their characters. Which it is quite rare for Greenstreet and Lorre not to standout in one of their films but in this instance they really don't, though they're not bad, but look to their earlier collaborations for their far more memorable work.



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Louis: Your present roles for both Greenstreet and Lorre?
Ratings for the cast of Tuner?
Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Coulouris and Lorring.
1) Redgrave
2) Boyer
3) Interleghi
4) Simon
5) Greenstreet
When Louis revisits The Big Sleep, I hope Bogart gets an analysis post. It’s my fourth-favorite performance of him.
Thats really disappointing to hear about the two
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Louis: Your thoughts on the cast of Tuner?
1. Redgrave
2. Boyer
3. Simon
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5. Greenstreet
Louis: Thoughts on the Debut trailer.
1. Redgrave
2. Boyer
3. Simon
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Louis: Oh, and your ratings & thoughts on the cast of I Love Boosters too?
Harris: Yes, he clarified Blunt is 2.5 and Hewson is 3.5.
Yeah this film didn't really do anything for me. Not bad, just fairly forgettable.
Louis: are there any one-off onscreen pairings from this era of Hollywood that you're surprised you didn't see filmmakers try out again? I just watched Perfect Strangers (entirely agree on you with overall on it), and Donat and Kerr are just so good and play off one another so well that it feels surprising that they never did anything together again.
5º Sydney Greenstreet
4º Franco Interlenghi
3º Michel Simon
2º Charles Boyer
1º Michael Redgrave
Louis: Your thoughts on the cinematography of The Spiral Staircase.
Louis: For those disappointed by The Verdict, I recommend Three Strangers, directed by Jean Negulesco and starring Sydney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre once again.
Ytrweq:
Lorre:
Chet - Barton Fink
Piter de Vries - Dune
Garnik - Anora
Greenstreet:
Jack Lipnick - Barton Fink
Baron Harkonnen - Dune
Toros - Anora
Anonymous & Lucas:
Woodall - 4(Continuing to build up a little bit of a resume here and while I wouldn’t say he goes beyond a certain point here delivers well with what he has. Finding the sense of that constant physical tension of his condition but combined with this innate confidence in his understanding and control of the skills that gives him. Balancing with that enough of a believable combination between a very low key charm with also a desperate sense of frustration in his particular lot created by his situation. Gives a good performance as such, doesn’t go anywhere near the heights of say Caan and Gosling fitting in that type of role but would take him over Elgort.)
Hoffman - 3.5(He’s still got it to the extent he’s used here, and I will say his sort of random energy of the nearly deaf tuner with a lot of personality Hoffman runs with what he has. Brings a lot of warmth though with enough complication of a guy where you get the sense of some failures but in a way that man just keeps moving in his way. How he begins I do honestly wish they had done more with his character because he’s good with what he has but he ends up not being as important as you might think.)
Liu - 4(Though she managed to give enough internal life and personality beyond being the love interest. Finding a combination between her own confidence with also a desperate sense of urgency with the moments of lacking in her convictions. Finding her own life that works far beyond the plot and makes you care about her own subplot and story rather than just being there to be the love interest.)
Raz - 3.5(Not really written to be Bernie or Leo, rather just kind of a guy who will be a criminal because it’s easy. Raz I think is best in the early scenes in bringing this certain casual quality where he shows you how he would be convincing in his sell of “Why not” more than anything. He’s still fine in his later scenes though when playing the more overt villainy he is less interesting though still fine.)
Feldshuh - 3.5(Nice to see her in general and brings a nice combination of a definite charm but also a certain sense of balance with how well she knows her husband. Really brings a sense of history in just a couple of key moments to the point I certainly would not have minded more of her.)
Reno - 3.5(For honestly just being a plot point I actually quite like what he did here bringing a certain gravitas, but then bringing a lot of honest pathos in connection with the key exposition he is given. Giving it an honest personality and going beyond the plot point he technically is.)
Luke:
Coulouris - 3.5(Brings the right combination between pompousness but an actual sense of drive. Where you do get that there is a real attempt to be a proper detective and while there is a bit of smugness I liked the certain genuine disgust he played against Greenstreet. He’s designed overall to be a punchline in the film but I liked that he brought and found genuine character even within that.)
Lorring - 4(Considerably better than her overacted Oscar nominated work from the previous year. Here that broader quality she wisely only uses when doing the performance act of the character. Then brings a far more subtle quality when we meet the actual woman. Bringing some earnest pathos and nuance in creating a greater sense of complexity to her character than anyone else in the film. Frankly I thought she was going to be far more important given how much she does in her brief scenes, but regardless still made the most of what she had.)
Jonathan:
Don’t regret my predicting of it yet at the very least. As it looks like it could potentially hit the feelgood sweet spot, and “putting on the show” is frequently an approach I often enjoy so I’m certainly interested. Could be too much, or too thin, but looked like it had potential to find the right dramedy blend, and if the film is great, Giamatti looks like he might have the role to make him go the distance.
Anonymous:
Palmer - 3.5(Has the most actual character other than just kind of rolling with the general madness of the film, though even then I still think her role fundamentally is simplistic. Palmer thought I believed just in her general reactions particularly in the opening scene, which I wished the approach of that opening scene lasted longer. Regardless, she was believable in a general sense though too much limitation on the whole.)
Paige & Ackie - 3(Honestly fulfill almost the same type of role here as the “sidekick” I liked the naturalism they brought in the insanity but didn’t do much more beyond that for me.)
Liu - 2.5(Honestly thought the role bordered on just being an accent, and I wouldn’t say Liu was able to elevate beyond that.)
González - 2.5(Could’ve been worse but didn’t really make the stylized exposition into anything too incredible one way or another.)
Stanfield - 3.5(Basically one note of selling a very ridiculous single thing, but I did enjoy his delivery of that note even though that’s all he has to work with.)
Poulter - 2.5(Eh didn’t get too much out of his heavily stylized turn.)
Moore - 3(Thought she was completely fine in playing the villain but honestly felt her scenes were repetitive. She’s fine in just going for it, but really didn’t leave too much of an impression beyond just fine.)
Cheadle - 3(Unrecognizable with the makeup also one note, but enjoyable enough in hitting the one note.)
Calvin:
Those two for sure. Honestly Reed and Stewart given how great their chemistry is, same with de Havilland and Cagney for The Strawberry Blonde.
1. Boyer
2. Redgrave
3. Simon
4. Interlenghi
5. Greenstreet
1. Redgrave
2. Boyer
3. Simon
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5. Greenstreet
Cast ratings for The Stranger
Robinson-3.5
Young-3
Welles-4
Merivale-3
Long-2
Shayne-2.5
House-3.5
Wentworth-3
Louis: Little bit surprised to hear that Paisan has forced English dubbing rather than....just subtitles.
Any particular reason some people are predicting Boyer at #1?
Harris: Why not?
Harris: I think for 2 reasons:
Could be a career best and if Jones is as great as Calvin says she is as well as their chemistry together it may elevate him further.
Matt: I didn't say not to, I'm asking out of simple curiosity.
Harris: Oh, I wasn't trying to be snippy, it was more of a casual "Why not predict him first? Worth a shot."
Boyer and Redgrave are honestly on pretty even keel for me, I could see either taking the win in this lineup.
Louis: Oh, those are good shouts too...though there are rumours that Stewart and Reed didn't exactly get along on the set of IAWL, so there might've been something to that too.
Rest in Peace, Ann Blyth
RIP Ann Blyth
RIP Ann Blyth
RatedRStar:
It has subtitles, the film though is in both English (for the Americans) and Italians, and while the Italian method of dubbing was the standard for Italian cinema for a very long time I felt this was a particularly less than artful example of it.
Calvin:
It wouldn't surprise me too much if that was true as Stewart was apparently going through a lot on the shoot in terms of mentally attempting to readjust to acting again after WWII, and I wonder when Lionel Barrymore's apparent motivational talk that convinced him acting was worthwhile actually occurred in the shoot, as maybe it wasn't until after a lot of Reed and Stewart's scenes together. Always fascinating though when there is such a story because of how amazing and naturalistic their chemistry was onscreen.
RIP Ann Blyth, the final Oscar nominee of the 1940's.
RIP Ann Blyth
Rest In Peace Ann Blyth.
8000S: He can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he'll comment on the cinematography of that film until the results.
Louis: Could you add something to the FAQ about the December recommendations, explaining which films can be suggested and how you can't guarantee getting to all of them (just so no newcomers are disappointed in the future when you don't watch something)?
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Regarding Supergirl, the dramatic moments and the action border on run-of-the-mill not great, mostly serviceable. Terrible villain, boring emotional sidekick and Kara’s own journey has potential but there’s just not quite enough there. What takes down below that though is the comedy, as not a single joke even slightly works here. Not one. Quite the achievement that just weighs the whole thing down from forgettable to actively bad at times.
Alcock - 3
Schoenaerts - 2
Ridley - 2
Krumholtz - 3
Beecham - 3
Corenswet - 3.5
Momoa - 2.5
Calvin and Louis: Stewart and Reed actually got along fine on set. The tension occurred after the film's release, when Stewart blamed the lack of commercial success on Reed not being a bigger star. He was good enough to later attend Reed's funeral, though.
Louis: So Superman is MVP of Supergirl?
Matt:
Pretty much.
Louis: Not sure if you've given it before, but could I have your thoughts on Andy telling Red about his regrets with his wife, aka "Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'", in terms of the writing and acting?
Louis: What are your thoughts on the cast of Supergirl?
Happy 100th Birthday to the archmaster of parody himself, Mel Brooks!
Louis: ratings and thoughts for the cast of Toy Story 5?
Also, happy 100th birthday to Mel Brooks!
Louis: so some of the original casting choices for Catch Me If You Can were James Gandolfini as Carl Hanratty, Ed Harris as Frank Sr., and Chloe Sevigny as Brenda Strong. How do you think they'd have fared?
Calvin: I can see potential in all of those honestly.
Louis: Thoughts on the Werwulf trailer.
Tahmeed:
I mean it is an extraordinary scene honestly one of the all timers with that line being one of all time great lines that summarizes really the choice fundamental to both Andy and Red and the mentality of “safety” in the prison against honestly living on the outside. Where a fascinating contrast where you see Andy almost recognize his punishment of the prison time for his failures with his wife before suddenly shifting this focus of regret to hope but with this intensity in Robbins’s performance that is the perfect balance between a man who honestly has this actual plan he’s about to exact to maybe someone going to break into a madness built by fantasy. With his exact delivery of the line being the emphasis which is get living busy which there’s the action, or dying where you sense all the pain of prison, not in a way that will destroy but rather something he knows he can’t wallow in yet wholly feels. Freeman is also great in the scene by actually being broken slightly in the chemistry because he doesn’t know the full extent of what Andy is talking about. He starts kind of humoring even about the fantasy with the warmth of a friend supporting a flight of fancy, it is only as Andy keeps going, Freeman is excellent in the way he brings the combination between a sense of Red’s own fear of the outside and genuine concern that his friend may be losing it completely. Right until his delivery of basically trying to shut down the notions which Freeman delivers forcefully not in a mean way but as a friend trying to stop his friend from going down a route he thinks might mean death.
Lucas:
Alcock - (The problem is she needs to sell so much of the film’s bad comedy and maybe she doesn’t have the timing, maybe the material is just bad, maybe the directing is just bad, but whatever the exact reason it all falls flat including everything Alcock is doing in these scenes. When she gets to get out of the slightly wacky drunk phase and shows some of the pathos of the character, she gets better. She does bring a degree of gravity to these moments and while I wouldn’t say anything about them is great you can see far more the potential in those moments of presenting genuine intensity of her grief. Unfortunately even this isn’t something she can run with because of the sloppiness of the screenplay but it at least lets her show some potential even if the film overall doesn’t really give her the best sell here.)
Schoenaerts - (Well I will give him credit he does not phone it in. Although his look, which does not match the comic evidently in any way, feels like he lost a bet or something as it does not help his attempt at being menacing. Really though Schoenaerts is trying but I will say his sloppy sleazy gangster approach as a barbarian just didn’t at all work for me at either providing a threat or being amusing in some way. He starts tiresome and stays tiresome.)
Ridley - (Well I hope she declares her need for vengeance one more time it would really give her character some interesting things to say… The script she is working with is terrible but I thought she really fumbled in any attempt to sell a genuine earnestness to the character’s quest nor any comedy as contrast from Supergirl. She’s just dull.)
Krumholtz & Beecham - (Both do bring at least some genuine sense of connection in their early scenes then emotional weight in their later moments. In the end it isn’t anything too new with what they are working with but they brought something honest which was appreciated.)
Corenswet - (I wouldn’t say he is necessarily working with great lines either, but Corenswet finds his way around them just bringing earnestness once again that does work finding that artful combination between wholly genuine while actually being corny in a way that works.)
Momoa - (The annoying thing here is if he just gave his performance from Fast X this would be Lobo, instead he’s working with terrible material but his attempt to be more so menacing doesn’t work at all, when gets slightly lighter he gets a little better but really he comes at in the wrong direction.)
Anonymous:
Hanks - 3(Although certainly superfluous to the overall narrative, I thought Hanks delivered on his end to the degree he needed to in his usual Woody way though more comedically inclined the whole time.)
Allen - 3.5(Delivers on mainly the comedic front and I suppose with all the Buzz Lightyears very much you see how essential his voice is in some ways of just being ideal for the character’s particularly bluster, while getting a little more nuance with prime Buzz.)
Cusack - 4(Does not waste her center stage at any point. Makes the most in initially bringing frankly more so the Hanks part initially in terms of that eagerness to help her kid and delivers on that specific earnestness in a way that is always convincing. Her performance manages then to capture the sense of doubt at times in losing that in a way that does find nuance to her journey and even wholly earns the moment of defeat leading to the most emotionally resonant moment in the film. A moment where Cusack’s performance manages to capture the emotional realization quite powerfully before naturally building back essentially to the hero role.)
O’Brien - 3.5(I would say maybe overused by maybe like 5 percent or so, but mostly his bits worked for me. And I will say I didn’t really notice his voice. I just saw him delivering effectively with the comedy, though actually with some moments of just enough dramatic to balance things out.)
Lee - 3(Basically just has to deliver two notes from evil to good. She manages those two notes effectively enough even if felt maybe like a bit of a missed opportunity to let her articulate the change just a little more.)
Harris & Spears - 3.5(I think both manage to bring a lot of emotional nuance and honesty into relatively quick bits of emotion, but bits that feel very honest with their vocal work being pivotal in that realization.)
Everyone else is good in their quick comedic bits.
Calvin:
Gandolfini would’ve been great similar to Hanks I think but obviously with his own spin to some degree.
Harris would’ve been different because I see him less innately as a sad sack, but definitely think he could’ve pulled it off in a different way.
Sevigny’s the only one I don’t see because she really doesn’t have that naive presence that the part really needs.
Luke:
I mean seems to be delivering on what is to be expected from Eggers at this point, thick mood, extremely distinct period and Dafoe acting like a mad man, which obviously is always welcome. Looks great in terms of all that. The big question mark though still is Taylor-Johnson, which the trailer didn't raise any red flags in that regard. It also didn’t soothe any concerns since we mainly saw him silence, which I guess at least he doesn’t look bad in the silences we saw here, but again I still have obvious concerns in terms of delivering in all respects given how much of a sore thumb he was in Nosferatu.
This review does a great job of highlighting both the strengths and weaknesses of the film, especially Peter Lorre’s and Sydney Greenstreet’s performances. The discussion of the shifting perspectives and numerous red herrings captures what makes the mystery engaging, while also acknowledging that some character moments don’t have the emotional impact they could have had. It’s an insightful analysis that gives readers a good sense of the film’s unique storytelling style. More here: ivybet
I enjoyed reading this review because it highlights how even legendary actors can sometimes be limited by the material they are given. Greenstreet and Lorre have such a memorable screen presence that it’s easy to expect something extraordinary whenever they appear together. The Verdict sounds like an interesting mystery, but it seems the characters were not developed enough to let these performers truly shine. I agree that preserving the mystery can sometimes come at the cost of emotional depth and stronger performances. Still, seeing these two actors share the screen remains a fascinating part of classic cinema history. spinogambino
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