Charles Laughton did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Dr. Moreau in Island of Lost Souls.
The Island of Lost Soul tells the tale of a man happening onto the island of a mad doctor who lives in and around a strange hybrid of animals and men.
As seemed to be the requirement of many of the horror films of the period, it wouldn't be true to the period if the main lead wasn't better named Blandy McBland with a similarly bland love interest, where the film must be saved by a better actor in the juicier part of someone at least responsible for the horror in some way. Charles Laughton obviously was and became known as one of the very best actors of his generation, so naturally he's more than up to the task. Laughton first appears as the man is dumped on a remote stop by an amoral Captain, and Laughton's initial reaction is just quiet frustration of a man who wants nothing to do with outsiders. Unfortunately the man is left and he becomes the doctor's problem. Laughton is working on a whole different level here as well, in portraying such ease in his performance and even more importantly a charisma even in playing obviously a villainous role. Laughton though is charming in his approach, as when he sees he's stuck with the man, Laughton presents himself with a generous enough spirit of the welcoming host, if more than a bit cautious in terms of sharing the whole of the story of his island. An island populated with near feral animal-men who live outside the gates of the Doctor's home, whom the doctor warns his guest against, though with glances by Laughton that immediately share a knowledge of the situation that goes far beyond simple concern. Laughton presents a man who is very much complicit in these creatures, and is just wonderful to watch as he acts out this part.
Laughton knows how to make exposition in itself natural within his performance, but even more importantly knows how to make it entertaining. Laughton has a wonderful style because he presents his doctor as someone who perhaps was respectable at one time, and in terms of his whole manner treats himself as though everything he is doing is respectable. He speaks with a quiet authority and absolute intelligence as he makes suggestions to his guest, and even convinces his more moral assistant that the man could stay for something that the doctor is working on. The doctor envisioned some experiment to use the new guest as, by introducing him to the Panther Woman, also a beast-human hybrid, however for a greater emphasis on the human side, and essentially wants to test her out via pairing her with the man. Laughton is brilliant in the way he delivers this plan with a complete lack of shame, and even more than that some grand pride in every delivery. A man whose eyes denote this idea with a keen sense of what he thinks should be done. When the attempted experiment begins, Laughton takes it a step further though by showing beneath the veneer of the egotist mixed in with the English charm is obviously just a creepy man living out his fantasies. Laughton brings more than just a glint in his eyes as he watches the two proceed with more than a hint of lust, and Laughton performs the note beautifully in revealing the grand designs of the man that have nothing to do with simple scientific curiosities, let alone noble ones.
Meanwhile while he enacts his attempts to entice the visitor with the panther woman, Moreau frequently reveals his most obvious nature through his interactions and dismissals of his other "experiments" aka the native populations. A key line that essentially echoes Dr. Frankenstein's line in the 1931 films about feeling what it is like to be God, is more or less spoken by Moreau in this film. Where it was that of mania with Colin Clive's performance, Laughton is that of calm assurance, the insanity is in the glint of his eyes, however Laughton presents it as a man well controlled in his insanity. And we see that as he dictates over his "people" with his calm assurance, yet with an unmistakable internalized intensity for genuine violence. In each instance where the islanders begin to act too animalistic Moreau with a whip, and occasionally some support from Bela Lugosi as one of the creatures, however Laughton presents each as the lion tamer, and the brutal dictator as he insists they follow his rules lest they suffer more pain at his hands. Laughton brings the diabolical sneer of a proper villain who is lording over these creatures as part of an extension of his ego, and portrays the madness of his character even though the man is capable of presenting it all as for the sake of scientific curiosity. But what all this adds up to more importantly than anything, is an entertaining villainous performance, where Laughton simply shines every moment he is on screen. Whenever Moreau is onscreen, the film is working, because Laughton is so engaging. But more than that, while this adaptation purposefully leans closer to the horror aspects of the story than the philosophical, whatever depth can be mined within the screenplay is found by Laughton, as while being enjoyable to watch, he does find an actual character here with greater notions to his evil, even if the film is only slightly interested in that.
106 comments:
Louis: Rating and thoughts on Lugosi.
Lugosi - 3.5(It's him just hamming it up in his Lugosi way, and it's one note, but it also totally works, in just being so overtly Lugosi and so overtly too much.)
Louis: Your cast for a Laughton directed version of The Island of Dr. Moreau.
@Louis: I always forget sometimes that this blog has been going on since 2010, aside from yourself has there been anybody that has been here since the start of the blog, or close to it?
Anonymous: I started following around 2011, not sure if I commented until 2012.
Yeah, I've been here for a while too, but I didn't start posting with my name until a couple years into it.
Louis: Your thoughts on The Simpsons' Grift of the Magi, Ted Lasso's Carol of the Bells, and The Sopranos' To Save Us All from Satan's Power?
Anonymous: I've followed the blog since roughly the 2014 Oscars, didn't start regularly commenting till 2015 or 2016 though.
Robert: Should've asked this at the time, but you mentioned a while back that you watched the Guts Vs Dimitri fight "Death Battle" made. How familiar are you with "Berserk" and/or "Fire Emblem"? I know a little of the former series, but virtually nothing of the later.
Incidently, what did you think of that animated fight itself? I personally thought it was rather hardcore, from the music and 3D choreography, to the surprisingly uplifting ending.
Mitchell: I know virtually nothing of Berserk, but I put in over 800 hours in Fire Emblem: Three Houses through various NG+. Dimitri happens to be one of my favorite characters in the game, and the most compelling storyline and arc of the game's three "lords". His arc was deconstructive of typical Fire Emblem protagonists. Throughout the series, the main character are always tormented by tragedy or trauma, but they keep their moral codes in tact, or become "stronger" from it. Dimitri is the only who's driven into a Hamlet-like state of madness. In his storyline, he's reduced to a babbling madman, promising ghosts of his loved ones the head of someone who betrayed him in hopes they'll stop keeping him awake. His redemption arc when he finally comes to his senses ends up leading to the game's most powerful scenes and exchanges. Also, Chris Hackney's work is great.
Don't remember much about the video, other than my one-eyed boy taking the win.
If you do play Three Houses at some point, I don't know what order to recommend playing the stories. Blue Lions was my favorite, and perhaps the best to play first since there's a specific plot reveal that is given MUCH more fanfare on that route.
Louus: Rating and thoughts on Lily Gladstone in The Unknown Country.
Robert: Well, I guess their verdict and animation made you quite happy then.
And since you've already aluded to it, I found the ending to be particularly respectful to Guts. The Berserker Armour allows him to fight down to the last drop of blood, and I guess DB took that quote literally. Not only that, but for Dimitri to then recognize his torment, sympathize with him and defend his body/soul from an oncoming threat...it was all a nice touch.
Louis: have you seen Bertolucci's 1900?
If you have, what are your thoughts on Sutherland, Lancaster, Depardieu and De Niro?
And ratings.
here's an idea i had
The Shawshank Redemption 2010s/2020s (doesn't really matter), directed by Ben Affleck
Andy: Ben Affleck
Red: Liam Cunningham
Norton: Michael Sheen
Heywood: Steve Zahn
Hadley: Dave Bautista
Bogs: David Dastmalchian
Tommy: Luke Bracey
Brooks: Stephen McHattie or David Straithairn
Thoughts?
RujK: You can usually see what films Louis has seen by using the blog's search function, in this case it appears he hasn't seen 1900.
Tim: Why Sheen as Norton? Just curious.
Tim: I see Red's casting is more in line with King's description of the character.
I'm sold on Cunningham, Sheen, Bautista and Straithairn. Affleck I don't see, as I think for Andy you need someone who can project a certain purity and low key charm - areas Affleck isn't the best with.
Alternatively for Red...Sterling K Brown is a little young now (47), but not TOO young given that Freeman was in his mid-50s during Shawshank. I do think he's very good at bringing a collected yet weary presence, and I can see him delivering some of Freeman's speeches quite well.
I could definitely see Bautista playing some Clancy Brown roles, especially The Kurgan.
Also, if were going older for Red...Carl Lumbly.
He's definitely got the voice for those monologues.
Tony: originally, i was pretty firmly set on Stanley Tucci for that part as he can kind of have a similar presence to Gunton. But as i was struggling a bit with Bogs and Tommy i was looking over my DVD collection for inspiration and weirdly got stuck on Frost/Nixon. I was thinking about Sheen a bit and kind of instantly saw him in that role. He can be a bit of a sleezy ass as in Kingdom of Heaven; he can play calm, collected and proper in a way that can be a bit unnerving (he pretty much did that in a more overt way in Passengers) and is of the right age for someone with that job, so i was like "Why not?"
Mitchell: a) King's description, yes b) Cunningham's got a cool voice that just has to work well for the narration and c) he's most famous for playing a calm, caring, intelligent smuggler, it was gift-wrapped
For Andy, I'd argue you need someone who's kind of blank at first glance. You look at them and assume they're a cipher. But the more you look at them, the more you see going on behind the eyes. Casey would be a better fit than Ben.
Mitchell: I really like the idea of Lumbly, if the main intention is to match Freeman's presence as much as possible.
Also Zahn, Dastmalchian and Bautista are ideal.
And one more thing: how about Doug Jones or David Knell as Elmo Blatch?
I haven't seen much non-creature work from Jones, so i can't tell, but i have seen Knell in Pig and he does have THAT smile, so I'm on board
Alternatively Keith David as Red could be interesting to witness, partially beacuse he'd absolutely ace the monologues.
My pick for a modern-day Andy Dufresne would probably be Chris Pine. Based on Hell or High Water, I think he'd be excellent in fashioning both the coldness and magnetism that Robbin's original performance had in spades.
Hopefully a reanalysis of 1976 will come soon next year.
Louis: do you think there's a possibility of The Holdovers getting in for Cinematography? I don't see many people predicting it, but I think it's a possibility.
8000's:
Dr. Moreau: Peter Ustinov
Parker: Robert Mitchum
Montgomery: Peter Graves
Ruth Thomas/Lota: Shelley Winters
Donahue: Wallace Ford
Sayer of the Law: John Carradine
Anonymous:
RatedRStar, I believe, has been around the longest in terms of regular commenters.
Tony:
Grift of the Magi, has some funny bits, including the gratuitous Gary Coleman cameo that works because it is actually funny even if that. The whole plot and development though falls into the overly absurd with no real point other than wackiness, and an indicator of the move towards weaker Simpson. There are some good bits like the Furbi murdering the other toys or Wiggum's Ed Sullivan impression, but it's not a great episode. Although also started suicidal Moe I think, which was not a character trait I cared for.
Carol of the Bells, for basically being a recognized filler episode, is a nice enough Christmas special essentially by giving each character their bit in the form of typical Christmas plot essentially of the big family gathering, the trip with another, and the last minute gift, here to stop bad breath, regardless all nicely sweet in their way.
To Save Us All, has the great bit of seeing the "Loss" of Puss in his great Santa Clause against the hilariously terrible Bobby. And the rest you see Tony essentially having the anti-Christmas with several of his failures coming to fruition at once, effectively showing his nature, in hurting Artie and Charmaine's relationship, fighting with Ralphie more, failing to be a surrogate father to Jackie Jr. continuing his downfall, and then just being left with a bad comical present for it all.
Luke:
Gladstone - 4.5(Just wonderfully naturalistic work where Gladstone brings out so much life to every moment she's in, even when just driving, or having the smallest interactions. Gladstone always conveys what her character is going through, and always brings a greater depth to every bit to suggest more, even as the film doesn't explore more. While doing that though she's also just so luminous and lovely to watch in terms of pure cinematic presence. There's such a joyful sense of performance in her work that is captivating to watch, and makes her such a unique delight even with a fairly underwritten part. She's tasked with a lot to really make some basic moments of anguish or of interaction, and turn them into a deeper meaning. She does that each time and really hope she gets all the best parts from her greater recognition from Killers.)
Tim:
Although Robbins is very tall, he's not necessarily physically intimidating, where Affleck would be harder to buy as a victim of the sisters and would see the alternative "I wish I could say Andy fought the good fight...but he did better put all the sisters in traction the first day". Casey Affleck though was my choice for a current Shawshank, as again he needs to be seen as a "cold fish" who then has more, so not overt charm but something that reveals itself over time. And while some have argued maybe Affleck couldn't do the second half, I think he could regardless of his apparent real personality because he is extremely talented.
Calvin:
I would agree it's possible, though its "showiness" is in a theoretically low key way, in that you just accept the 70's aesthetic, though if they campaign to kind of focus on that, and if the film ends up in the top five (which seems likely given that it is nearly universally *at least* liked) I could see them maybe pulling it off. What's against it is, Oppenheimer, Killers, Poor Things, Maestro, The Color Purple are all more overtly showier in their style, and all are from previous nominees. And then there's even Zone of Interest, which seems like it could easily by the passion pick within the branch. So it would have a tough road even if the film performs to its apex, and I'd say Color Purple or Maestro would need to underperform...which both those things seem to be possible.
I saw Dream Scenario. Absolutely loved it. Definitely going to be on my favorites of 2023 list.
Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/5gF7Z7
Cast Ratings:
Nicolas Cage - 4.5
Julianne Nicholson - 4
Michael Cera - 4
Tim Meadows - 3.5
Dylan Gelula - 3.5
Dylan Baker - 3
Kate Berlant - 3.5
Lily Bird - 3
Jessica Clement - 3
Nicholas Braun - 3.5
Lol at that Godzilla V Kong trailer. Between The Marvels, Wish, GVK and more it feels like audiences are being tested to see how much pure slop could be endured and people are getting tired of it. This one will at least make money I'm sure but with Godzilla Minus One having released in close proximity it's going to be embarrassing to see the difference in quality.
Louis: Your thoughts on the La Marseillaise scene in Casablanca.
Louis: Your cast and director for Japanese and Korean versions of The Killer.
Louis: As a fun question, if every Oscar-winning character got into a fight, who would be your pick for the winner?
Hey everyone.
Wanted to share two things with everyone. Firstly, "Death Battle" just released their latest episode - Superman Vs Goku. Yes...they really went there again. When it was announced, I was actually rather annoyed. I'll admit, however...they did a splendid job with this one. It's every bit as ridiculous, flashy, yet heartwarmingly wholesome as both characters deserve.
Secondly, I've been away from my blog spot for a while, but I do have an idea for a post in the near future. So, if anyone has/is currently watching "Chainsaw Man"...stay tuned.
Jonathan Williams:
A scene that is theoretically the most dated as a moments during World War II, and there were so many similar films of the ilk, they just all weren't amazing like Casablanca. As the scene is clearly designed to be rousing to the audience promoting a free France again as it is with the characters doing the same. Regardless it is a powerful moment particularly as orchestrated on the thematic front of essentially coming as a musical duel with the Nazis, as you see Lazlo directly charge against the Nazi rule, but you also have a great character moment in showing Rick's progression away from cynicism in his head nod to go along with Laszlo's action. But it also just works regardless, in large part due to Curtiz capturing, what are said to be, genuine reactions from much of the cast and making this particularly potent symbolic stand against fascism in so many ways.
8000's:
The Killer Directed by Park Chan-wook
The Killer: Lee Byung-hun
The Expert: Bae Doona
The Lawyer: Cho Jin-woong
The Brute: Heo Sung-tae
The Client: Kim Roi-ha
The Killer Directed by Kihachi Okamoto:
The Killer: Tatsuya Nakadai
The Expert: Kinuyo Tanaka
The Lawyer: Takashi Shimura
The Brute: Tsunagoro Rashomon
The Client: Minoru Chiaki
Marcus:
Depends on the type of fight, full on brawl instantly without weapons or assists (sorry EEAO winners), you might think Jake Lamotta, though probably more likely Maximus who would be able to fight and be strategic, though I guess don't count out Cliff Booth, as you never know what other famed fighter Tarantino hates for no reason, which would give him more power.
With a weapons brawl Waymond, Evelyn, Maximus again, Joker (Ledger), Chigurh Cyrano and don't count out Sergeant York.
If strategy gets involved then that opens it up. Young Vito (particularly if Old Vito can assist him), Joker (Ledger), Landa, Plainview, Hannibal, Chigurh though I might opt Maximus who could be a leader and fight. And you know, suddenly I'm envisioning the grand Oscar brawl, where I might see Maximus of the leader of the good Oscar winners versus the villains.
Louis: Thoughts on this video where John Bailey discusses the cinematography of The Innocents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sffkLDQvZDo
Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=439pP_kn76w
Louis: Throw strategy in there and I'm surprised our old friend Salieri isn't on the list...
Louis: I'd also love to see that brawl of Oscar winning heroes vs villains, complete with Santa Claus knocking out whoever's the last one standing.
I wouldn't count out the more "professional" winners if strategy comes in. Clarice Sterling, Marshall Will Kane and General Patton are all either dark horses or top contenders, imo.
I'm also looking out for Tommy DeVito, Bill Daggett and Verbal Kint for obvious reasons.
Louis: I'm looking forward to your Sign Of The Cross write-up. From what I could gather, it could be a 5 for Laughton.
Louis: If it's being posted on the weekend, could you check out Broken Lullaby and Wooden Crosses before then. Lionel Barrymore is probably Laughton's closest competitor for the Supporting win and Wooden Crosses is a French 'All Quiet On The Western Front'.
Louis: Are you watching The Ballad Of Songbirds & Snakes during your 2023 reviews. I really liked it and Blyth is great. After seeing it, I've decided to pick Mockingjay Part 1 as my first ever recommendation once you've started your annual catch up. It's time to finish off the franchise.
Luke, Are there any memorably bad performances that you would like to see reviewed
Anonymous: Nicolas Cage in The Wicker Man. Even without being requested, I think it's feasible that Louis would want to give it a review.
I'd actually be more interested in Cage getting reviewed for Deadfall. His The Wicker Man turn is more "iconic" for sure, but I found that he was mostly just boring and only laughably bad at the end, whereas Deadfall is just him going ham and being unintentionally hilarious without any breaks.
Louis: Your thoughts on Joel McHale's and Chevy Chase's performances in this Community scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-5mg63Mpc&ab_channel=Community
8000's:
Interesting detailed examination of how Clayton and Francis went from seemingly doing something they didn't want to do in the extreme widescreen to embracing and capitalizing on the intensity of the widescreen instead, and one of the reasons it is such a brilliantly shot film. And specifying the incredible use of the candles, and the method behind them, that emphasizes how much it was a showcase for Francis.
Anonymous:
I've never been the biggest fan of the film, which I think is a few memorable scenes surrounded by several dull ones. However this is one of those memorable scenes, where De Palma's form is on point, not how extreme he gets, but rather the fluidity of the camerawork, the intensity of the piece, and of course the Hitchcock move of the pull outside away from drama to calm. Before then getting into some insane bloodshed, which is ridiculous however memorably so particularly the use of the chainsaw.
Luke:
Laughton won't have a review, it's a good performance but there isn't all that much to say, as he's rarely focused upon, as Colbert gets really the true villain role, Laughton's mostly there just to look debaucherous and childish. A fun note to see from him still, but unlike with Ustinov, they don't really exploit the potential of the role, or fully Laughton's performance. He gets to be fun but unfortunately he doesn't get to be that much more than that.
Calvin:
Problem with Salieri is he needs someone to play sycophant to, in order to climb the ladder, might work on say Willie Stark and a few others but someone like Plainview's not going to buy it.
Emi Grant:
Clarice and Kane certainly would have a great chance. Patton I think would end up getting kicked out of his leadership position after arguing too much with Colonel Nicholson and slapping poor Nikonar Chevotarevich.
Tommy DeVito I think takes out many right away, but just as quickly gets taken out. Daggett's pretty good, but he has a tendency to surround himself with weak men (probably would quickly recruit someone like Gypo Nolan), suffering when he has to take on a true opponent. Kint's a wildcard, and could go the distance.
Jonathan Williams:
Due to Calvin's rating for Blyth I will definitely check it out.
Glenn Howerton is co-lead in BlackBerry, right? That's where I have him.
Matt: Yup, the way I see it, it's Baruchel and Howerton's story. Not one quite in service of the other.
Louis, thoughts on the Spirit award nominations?
Tahmeed:
Well without context I will say McHale brings some genuine intensity, though while pulling off the trick of managing to make the intensity funny while also being completely genuine in the emotional rawness of his performance. Chase more bouncing back, and even without context found his bad fake dad routine quite funny, but like McHale, in the desperate plea to be taken seriously, Chase's performance manages to be both funny and genuine.
Matt:
Definitely co-lead to me, but there are worse cases of category fraud.
Anonymous:
Means I think even less than usual prediction wise because so many studio films were well received and are among the big contenders. I mean the nomination phase is via a jury of unnamed, though I imagine not overly large, size. So certain things I don't think are hurt as much, such as The Holdovers snubs for picture/director and Giamatti, as I would always imagine the film will be bigger with the Academy than Indie Spirits. I do think it does hurt Giamatti perhaps a little in terms of winning potential because it does mess with any momentum he could've built, though regardless I thought it was Cooper vs Murphy before this happened.
Otherwise, these are very Indie Spirit picks, which good for the films, but again means less, as nothing I feel was a total surprise other than some of the snubs within the recognized films like Moore, Magaro, Mescal/Foy and Sarsgaard. I will say though it was important for Past Lives to show up here to stay in the conversation and I do ponder how much All of Us Strangers and American Fiction have in the tank after the strong showings here. I don't think this means too much for May December or Passages (including Rogowski and Whishaw) as both felt like something that would get embraced here.
Quality wise, Chastain, Lee, Portman, Taylor, and Randolph are all fine choices. And while I don't typically show my hand, can't quite hide my enjoyment of seeing Howerton recognized, which I think is his peak for the season (though I'm sure he'll tell me when he'll peak.)
Louis to keep the "battle Royale" question going, if you had to draft an ideal villain team versus a hero team, who would be your ten for each side?
Happy 92nd birthday to Kyoko Kagawa.
Louis, Marcus & Emi: Can Rocky from They Shoot Horses emcee the fight or does he technically have to participate as well? He wouldn’t last a minute, so maybe he can be the exception.
Louis: I will say, I think 'Dennis Campaigns for an Oscar' would be a great episode of Sunny.
I'm very happy with all the Spirit Award nominations, only nitpick is they could've spread the wealth even more, but it is what it is.
Louis: Thoughts on the Masters Of The Air trailer.
Anonymous:
Team Heroes:
Maximus Decimus Meridius (Team Captain)
Ben-Hur
Sergeant York
Evelyn Wang
Waymond Wang
Clarice Starling
Dr. King Schultz
Mary Poppins (Really slept on her as a potential overall winner)
Kris Kringle (Team Mascot)
Dr. Josiah Boone (Team Medic)
Team Villains:
Hans Landa (Team Captain)
Little Bill Daggett
The Cisco Kid
Anton Chigurh
Alonzo Harris
Tim Strawn
Otto West
Tommy DeVito
Terence Fletcher (Team Mascot)
Nurse Ratched (Team Medic)
Might seem a mistake leaving Hannibal and Ledger Joker behind, but no way to trust them not to try to murder all their teammates almost immediately, don't trust Chigurh or Tommy in that regard either, however both I think would be less dangerous in terms of friendly fire as quickly...though Tommy's definitely going to kill Fletcher eventually. Feel Plainview wouldn't accept anything but Captain, even though it doesn't speak to his skillset.
Calvin:
Excellent episode potential, particularly when Dennis keeps getting derailed by Charlie's campaigning at the same time for his terrible mute Oscar bait.
Bryan:
He can definitely do some color commentary, with a half time show by George M. Cohan and the MC, meanwhile Atticus Finch and Hans Rolfe are in an ongoing legal battle over whether or not the fight should be allowed to happen.
Luke:
Looks quite good, and nearly cinematic in terms of the level of effects used, and I think it is notable that the air force within WWII is probably one of the least covered aspects in film/TV in terms of any quality work at least, this does intrigue me.
May December Screentime:
Moore - 29.37%
Melton - 39.57%
Portman - 61.41%
The Holdovers:
Sesssa: 48.77%
Giamatti: 55.30%
I still have Melton in Supporting, as Portman is the clear lead all the way through. Did not expect him to have nearly 40% though, so it is one of the harder borderline cases.
Anonymous:
Yeah, Melton's definitely lead then in my book.
Louis: In your review(s) for Fitzgerald in Going My Way, you said he was a 4.5 for you as a Lead, but a 5 for you in Supporting. Do you still go by the same rules in rating performances differently based on what category they're placed in by the Academy?
Marcus:
No, additionally I try not to be harder on a performance merely for being recognized by the academy rating wise, for example I probably would've been harsher on Simmons in Being the Ricardos rating wise when I first started because as a nomination goes it's a terrible choice, as a performance though it's okay. Now I try to rate solely on the performance itself regardless.
Louis thoughts on the NBR winners?
Anonymous:
The top ten is interesting, less so for the inclusion of Ferrari (which the NBR often has a less beloved film from a veteran filmmaker show up), rather the inclusion of The Boy and The Heron over Spider-Verse and The Iron Claw, which I ponder if it could be a dark horse or at least fringe contender. Also for the exclusion of The Color Purple and American Fiction, particularly after the latter's strong showing yesterday. Not all surprised by May December and say Passages missing here however. Killers winning isn't too surprising as they gave the win to Scorsese for both Hugo and The Irishman.
Gladstone winning both NY and now NBR though is more notable, because it means Stone definitely will not being doing any sort of precursor sweep, so I think she is pulling into winning position given I think Stone would've needed all the momentum to get win number 2...particularly not if...
Ruffalo hitting the map, as expected I think in the long run, but I do think he may become a viable option to win in supporting actor, as previously noted.
Randolph winning both NBR and NY is great for her, particularly after The Color Purple didn't even make it in the top ten.
And, while I still don't think Giamatti is winning, this perhaps can help many more confidently predict him after being left off yesterday.
Before the end of 32, the remaining films that I would like you to see are:
Boudu Saved From Drowning
Where Now Are The Dreams Of Youth?
Emma
Fanny
Night At The Crossroads
Two Seconds
L'Atlantide
Red-Headed Woman
No Blood Relation
Arsène Lupin
Someone posted the screentimes for KOTFM on Twitter. For those curious:
- Leonardo DiCaprio - 1:49:59 (53.38%)
- Lily Gladstone - 56:13 (27.29%)
- Robert De Niro - 47:38 (23.12%)
- Jesse Plemons - 16:40 (8.09%)
- Scott Shepherd - 11:30 (5.58%)
- Cara Jade Myers - 8:55 (4.33%)
- JaNae Collins - 6:51 (3.32%)
- William Belleau - 6:45 (3.28%)
- Jason Isbell - 6:36 (3.20%)
- Louis Cancelmi - 6:03 (2.94%)
- John Lithgow - 4:58 (2.41%)
- Tantoo Cardinal - 4:33 (2.21%)
- Jillian Dion - 3:31 (1.71%)
- Brendan Fraser - 2:48 (1.36%)
Emi Grant:
Hmm, interesting though not surprising, I'll see how I feel on re-watch for Gladstone, as you can have less screen-time and still be lead like James Mason in Odd Man Out, but percentage wise that does place her right on the border.
Louis: I was just thinking about I Saw the Devil.
Wanna see Lee reunite with Kim for another movie? It's been six or seven years since they've done a movie.
I still think Gladstone is definitely lead. It's her story, even if it's often seen through someone else's eyes.
Louis: Your thoughts on this theory about Unforgiven? https://nicholasthurkettle.com/2017/10/24/a-story-is-a-story-plus-a-teller-unforgiven-as-a-legend-of-the-west/
Oppenheimer is not among the finalists for Best Visual Effects.
But, good news, Ant-Man and Spider-Verse(?) made the cut.
Matt: Spider0Verse is an entirely justifiable choice. In fact, the first one was my 2018 win for the category.
How though? It's animated, how is it visual effects?
Louis: What do you think of Michael McKean as Warden Norton?
Animation involves extensive visual effects - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9362722/fullcredits/visual_effects
And there's precedent for it being nominated by the Academy - Kubo was nominated several years back. Oppneheimer should've gotten in for its immaculate use of practical effects, but ragging against Spider-Verse's inclusion is dumb.
8000's:
I mean I'd love to see Lee in any film by Bong/Park or Kim at this venture.
Tony:
A neat theory to be sure, though I never thought of Beauchamp's final actions as necessarily that of a man about to reform to try to get to the genuine truth of it all, rather a subversion of a specific scene from Outlaw Josey Wales and a man denied any posturing from the real deal. But I like it. What I'll say I noticed less, and I should've was that that Delilah's relationship with Munny probably is the side Munny's wife did see, via the quiet respectful tenderness we see from him that does feel so genuine.
I mean sure, as we already know he can do sanctimonious hypocrisy beautifully.
Matt:
WOW an awful snub to start the season nice going branch, maybe they should rename the category "Best CGI". Egregious over the CGI sludge of Ant-Man especially. But even more surprising when they included Killers of the Flower Moon which had very light "touch up" style CGI.
Calvin: You know, no offense, but I don't think "dumb" is particularly fair as I genuinely have no knowledge of the specific separation between animation and visual effects, and Kubo was stop-motion so I figured that was a different beast but I guess not.
Calvin:
I'm personally not raging against Spider-Verse, but Kubo is a little different, since it was "filmed" so to speak. Where Spider-Verse had very light use of live action with CGI, though I do ponder if those handful of uses is what enabled the inclusion, as opposed to the specifics involving the unique animation.
I loved Godzilla Minus One. The first act in particular is the scariest Godzilla has ever been, but it's also a potent human drama and a thrilling war movie. The whole package.
Kamiki-3.5
Hamabe-3
Yamada-3
Aoki-3.5
Yoshioka-4
Ando-3.5
Matt:
VFX is often considered the effects "on top" of the live action, though the definition is usually fairly vague, so the question is does any CGI effects count as part of VFX, even if the film is nearly all CGI? I wouldn't say there is an obvious answer. I personally lean away from it, just as I do for animated films in Production Design, just because that does feel like a separate challenge in film-making. Not that animation isn't its own challenge, it obviously very much is, it just feels different.
Louis: Right, see, that's kinda how I've always done it.
I'm taking more into consideration the technology that was required for both spider-Verse films that differentiates itself from other CG animated films. It's advanced and requires a level of touch ups that go well beyond its peers. We've had some good approximations of their aesthetics in other films (Puss in Boots last year) but none of them are of the same level of innovation. So yes, I would qualify it, in the same way I think Tarzan of all films deserved a nod for its Deep Canvasing innovations.
Apologies on the use of 'dumb', guess I was just annoyed at what I perceived as flippancy towards one type of visual effects in response to the omission of another.
But we can all agree that Ant-Man's inclusion is horrible. I also take great issue with Indy 5 being on there.
Louis: thoughts on the AFI top 10?
Genuinely confusing choice to pick Ant Man over Oppenheimer. Last I saw it was being made fun of by everyone. It's a visual headache of a movie. I don't get it.
Louis: I only found this recently, but Tomu Uchida, who directed A Fugitive From the Past, apparently thought of adapting The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter in 1960 for Toei Animation, way before Takahata adapted it for Studio Ghibli. Of course, Takahata and Miyazaki worked for Toei before founding Studio Ghibli in the 80's.
Thoughts?
Anonymous:
The expected suspects in Barbie, The Holdovers, Killers, Maestro, Oppenheimer, Poor Things. Then American Fiction seems to be actually potentially taking the step from the audience award at TIFF, Past Lives is being remembered so far, and good for Spider-Verse, though still think its overall prospects outside of animated are relatively limited. May December is probably the biggest surprise, though the group also went for Carol, regardless it could go either way, and either way is a good sign for its actors.
Quality wise, I will say, from the seven of the 10 I've seen, we're looking at a potentially quite strong best picture lineup.
8000's:
Well given I'm not crazy about Princess Kaguya actually, I probably would've been more interested in seeing that take.
Anonymous:
Also major miss for The Color Purple, which I'm not counting it out, but this is not a great start for it. Very curious to see the reviews once the embargo drops. Also a miss for Air....I guess, a film I'm perfectly fine if it gets forgotten by nomination time.
Just saw Fallen Leaves which I adored so much, and Alma Pöysti is at the very least my runner-up for the year, possibly my number 1, in Lead Actress.
Louis: I never thought Air was going to be a thing, I'm always all for an early release getting awards momentum (I mean, that's what I'm hoping for Past Lives), but the Air awards buzz always felt to me people trying to designate a film as contender way too early on.
R.I.P Ryan O’Neal
RIP Ryan O'Neal
R.I.P. Ryan O'Neal
Regarding the Boy and the Heron, takes a little longer to get going than I think was necessary, but once the adventure starts it soars. Beautiful to look at, naturally, beautiful to listen, naturally, extremely creative, naturally but the emotional aspect of the story crept up on me in a more surprising way to make me rather love the film by the end.
Also, perhaps hyperbole, but the parakeets might be among my favorite henchmen ever.
Louis: ratings for the voice cast of The Boy & The Heron (if so)?
I went to an early screening of The Color Purple (2023) a couple days ago. Found it to be pretty great. I might actually prefer it over the original.
Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/5hBQLv
Fantasia Barrino - 4
Taraji P. Henson - 4.5
Danielle Brooks - 5
Colman Domingo - 3.5 (does what he can when working with a character as one-dimensional as Mister)
Corey Hawkins - 3.5
H.E.R. - 2.5
Halle Bailey - 3.5
Phylicia Pearl Mpsai - 3.5
Ciara - 3
Louis Gossett Jr. - 3
David Alan Grier - 3
Deon Cole - 3
Also watched Mon Crime (aka The Crime Is Mine). Just a pretty good time all-around.
Nadia Tereszkiewicz - 4/4.5
Rebecca Marder - 3.5 (a bit underused)
Isabelle Huppert - 4.5 (just a pure delight every time she was on-screen)
Fabrice Lucini - 4
Danny Boon - 3.5
André Dussollier - 3
Édouard Sulpice - 3.5
Félix Lefebvre - 2.5
Régis Laspalès - 3
Olivier Broche - 3.5
Daniel Prévost - 2.5
Michel Fau - 3
Evelyn Buyle - 3
Franck de la Personne - 3
R.I.P. Ryan O’Neal
Matthew:
Saw the dub, not the sub, just due to how my schedule shook out, though I probably will be seeing the sub sometime next week. I typically don't include dub work because it's not technically part of the original film, however Pattinson's unrecognizable work regardless is the stand out, though I pretty much liked all the dub work.
Louis: Ah. Got it. I saw the subbed version version of the movie at the Miami GEMS Film Festival and i found it to be pretty good voice work all-around. Will definitely check out the dubbed version when i get the chance.
RIP Ryan O'Neal
Louis: Thoughts on these original songs?
God Give Me Strength https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJvKN7MS_9w
The St. Valentine's Day Massacre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLrUzjfme8
Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUSS2palnQ
Calvin:
Oh I agree, largely, but you never know it could surprises in Original screenplay...though I'd prefer it not to.
Tony:
God Give Me Strength I think has some moments of Bacharach brilliance in the intro particularly, though I don't think the verses and chorus quite cohere as well as his best work, and it kind of feels slightly jumbled at times. The parts of the songs though that do work, are absolutely wonderful.
The St. Valentine's Day Massacre as kind of an electric Dylan, I think is perfectly fine, if not overly distinctive, though pleasant enough, although squeezing in the titular lyric does feel a bit labored even as the rambling style as such.
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