Sunday 26 November 2023

Alternate Best Actor & Best Supporting Actor 1932: Robert Lynen & Harry Baur in Poil de Carotte

Robert Lynen did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Francois Lepic aka Carrottop in Poil de Carotte. 

Poil de Carotte follows a pastoral family through the perspective of the ignored youngest child.

In the time when most child performances were forgettable or terrible, where really the standard for many adult performances in cinema often was that of stiff of overacting, you have a turn here by Robert Lynen, who from his first scene, where he must explain an essay that spoke of the poor nature of his family, we see a performance far flung from that standard. Lynen does the often seemingly impossible for the time, which is merely natural onscreen. Lynen certainly is that as he evokes the boy who's a bit out of sorts, but still seems likable enough as the concerned teacher inquires about his writing. Lynen's performance goes beyond just being natural, as he's natural with a greater depth, as he presents the anxiety of the young boy who just seems a bit lost. When talking about his family he manages to balance within the simple emotions of a boy, however with the complexity in the nature of the emotion. As he delivers his lines with the immediacy of the boy just trying to get the teacher to understand with the blunt anguish of a boy who just doesn't get his love. Where the complexity lies, it isn't a simple sadness, rather he delivers within this sense of confusion within his performance. A confusion that denotes a boy who can't understand why his father ignores him, and his mother constantly forces him to do work without showing any motherly affection towards him. But all the same, when the teacher encourages to give his parents a chance, there is a painful glint of hope on his expression as he decides to give it a chance. 

Unfortunately Carrottop's claims of his family aren't at all false, as when he goes about embracing his father (Harry Baur) with the utmost earnestness, presented by Lynen as a simple yet pure of desire for affection, the father is merely surprised and pushes him off, being more focused on his hunting trips, his political career and any excuse to get away from his wife. His wife, Carrottop's mother, is said to be horrible, and she is in every way as she instantly picks at the poor boy demanding only work from him without anything in return. The initial moments of this are heartbreaking because of Lynen's performance only conveys again that simple desire for any affection, not any. And what is more painful is seeing that hope the teacher put within him, completely crumble in his reactions that show the boy just going back to his old ways all in such short order. Lynen's performance is so effective because what he does is convey bluntly the situation within the boy, and how unassuming in so many ways he is in his attempt to find some sort of comfort at any point. As what Lynen's performance does is always emphasize the difficulty of the youth, but as a youth specifically. There's many wonderful moments between Carrottop and the family's new maid, who gives the boy much more time than was ever granted to him by anyone in the family. Lynen's terrific in presenting the frustrations because it is with the urge and needs of a child, and has a certain petulance in his manner, however in that there is always a blunt truth in his performance. 

Where the film in general excels altogether is through the child's perspective which even includes visual representation of such, such as ghosts haunting the boy when he has to do a chore at night, but more importantly to Lynen's performance we often see the boy haunted by the worst of his thoughts, which often suggest suicide. Lynen's performance as both of the boy's two patterns of thoughts in these scenes is quite moving because at the same time, literally, he represents both the hope of what the child needs and what the pain of what the child feels. There is a bluntness about it that is particularly heartbreaking because when his "other voice" suggests suicide each time, it is with a kind of clarity, where his own thoughts react in a panic at first. And we see how this connects to even the boy being scared of thoughts of ghosts when going about chores at night. Lynen shows the difficulty of dealing with the complex, which often results in the simple reaction, however that simple reaction always feels completely honest and even more hurtful. When he rebels against his mother's constant demanding of work from him, it is as the child having a tantrum, but there is always in his eyes that desire for some recognition of him as more than just a worker. The sequence near the end of the film where he commits to suicide is heart wrenching because Lynen's performance shows in his face just how lost the boy is, and always searching for affection, so the solution becomes his only one. 

Harry Baur did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Monsieur Lepic in Poil de Carotte.

Harry Baur plays the father of Lynen's character and for much of the film is a man of few words towards the boy. Rather Baur, who has a great presence as a performer, just exudes a man who is kind of fed up with his existence with his family, and just is set on other things, such as hunting and his politics. Baur's performance is careful in that while the character is cruel, he isn't purposefully so in his manner towards Carrottop who he treats just as he does with everything in his family, as something he gives a quick passive attention to, before he moves off towards his chosen activity. We see the cause of this through some key moments of interaction with his wife, where you see just his quiet bitterness in every glance, and where everyone else he just exists with you see the history of hate between the two. Baur's performance is made by really pulling off the difficult task of earning the ending, which is when a family friend informs the father, right after he's won his election, that his son is about to kill himself. Baur's performance earns this sudden snap towards paternal concern as he rushes out to find his son, and Baur is extremely moving in managing this single reaction to show the sense of shame in his ignoring, and the immediate real love for the boy that just reveals itself in the moment. That's only part of the earning though as the other half is when he finds the boy in just the nick of time, and both he and Lynen are great together. Because you see in a moment's notice, now that the father is taking time just to earnestly talk to his son, the sense of warmth between the two is overwhelming yet feels completely genuine despite how we got here. The moment in particular of the father finally referring to the boy by his actual name, is filled with so much real affection for a true dad. And contrasting that is Lynen's performance, where he shows just this sincerest discovery of love, and how that is all the boy needed. He too earns this immediate switch, because throughout it, that's all the boy suggested he needed,  and when he finds it the interaction couldn't be more cathartic. Lynen gives a truly moving depiction of the forgotten child, finally finding love, and Baur offering the able assist, as the dad finally snaps out of his haze to see what has been missing this entire time. 

75 comments:

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Damn, Lynen might take the win.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: Too soon, I still think it'll be Simon or Laughton.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Bart vs Thanksgiving, Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire, and Frasier's Miracle on Third or Fourth Street.

Robert MacFarlane said...

According to Wikipedia, Lynen tragically died young, fighting for the Resistance in WW2.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I have another suggestion for backlog: Pat Hingle in Splendor in the Grass.

David Jones said...

Louis: I would like to swap my request for Michael Caine in Little Voice to John Hurt in Love and Death on Long Island. Hurt gave one of his greatest turns.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

David: This is a decision I can get behind much more than going with Caine.

David Jones said...

Ytrewq: I made the decision because I've had a growing fear that he could miss out getting into the Lineup if the remaining spots were taken by the time we get to 1998.

And with Caine, I do like his performance quite well with his last scene being the highlight but I can't deny that being a supporting/borderline lead case is going to cause some problems and best to let Louis decide for himself when he watches Little Voice.

Luke Higham said...

David: I think you've made the right call. At least you could say that 'I requested the (potential) winner for 1998 Lead' because Gleeson's not strong enough to retain.

Luke Higham said...

I've just realized that I've been commenting on the blog for a decade this month. Feels like an awful long time ago.

Luke Higham said...

Though I have been aware of the blog's existence since late 2010.

Anonymous said...

Luke, I know you don't care all that much about Louis' decisions on ratings/rankings but have there been any that you had disagreement with.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Well I've said previously that Day-Lewis getting a 4.5 for There Will Be Blood initially rubbed me the wrong way as it was an easy all-time great performance. I felt really disappointed at the time and was over the moon when he got the upgrade during the 07 alternates.

I suppose De Niro going down for both Once Upon A Time In America and Taxi Driver (the latter in particular stung abit) but I'm well over it at this point.

Marcus said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on the ending to Promising Young Woman? With Saltburn being polarizing, I've seen some people criticize the ending of PYW for hinging everything on law enforcement doing their job.

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: I have a different sort of case, but similar to that idea of Louis' opinions differing from mine. It's silly, but I did feel somewhat cheated and/or justified when we revisited 97' supporting actor. I'd asked if Kinnear and Reynolds could potentially be upgraded, and Louis firmly denied both. And yet...here we are.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, for everyone here: Thoughts on the following interviews with Samuel L Jackson and RDJ..both of which have become rather known.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT_4&ab_channel=LOAD%28miami%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYrporR9hHE&ab_channel=Channel4News

I think both men handled each interview quite well. Jackson I think may have been tired of the subject and wanted to mess with his interviewer. I also respect him for calling the guy out when he asks for a pass.

And man...I doubt I'd be as composed as RDJ if someone had asked me something so piercing and out of left field.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Dor & Fonteney - 4(Both performances are connected as one acts as the mother who is not, and the other never acts as the mother who is. The former brings I think this sense of the sensible as her reactions are of any decent person to a boy who has imagination with her natural curiosity to his curiosity and her innate concern for him. She brings a great deal of warmth within her performance to show just how much she does want to take the time for him. Against that is the actual mother, where she is wonderfully wretched, however in a way that really gets under the skin because she's not over the top in evil, rather you see a very convincing sense of the intense bitterness of her character, which defines her.)

Tony:

Bart vs. Thanksgiving is in that period where the show still didn't quite hone their comedic tone completely, to the point the show at time felt more dramatic, like this episode. As this episode really is built on the sibling conflict as seen through Bart seeing what Thanksgiving means for several, and as much as this episode isn't overly funny, it does work actually with its more dramatic intention.

Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire as the pilot, much like most pilots, makes one ponder how any shows got picked up. It actually isn't terrible, though the animation is very shaky, and really there's very few jokes to be found. Again though in strictly the drama of Homer trying to find a way to have a Christmas, and getting it an unexpected way, actually does work with the payoff of Santa's Little Helper. Again both of these episodes though are a little weird in that they are closer to dramas than comedies, but it isn't as though they fail as dramas.

Miracle on Third or Fourth Street, is entirely hilarious for the horribleness of the callers, particularly the man who really thinks losing his shoes is a great deed and the payoff for it is perfect. And in a similar payoff to Bart v. Thanksgiving, the payoff though comedically in the awkwardness of Frasier's mistaken identity, manages to be genuinely heartwarming in the kindness of the less fortunate of those they believe to be less fortunate, particularly the ending moment of the quarter to call his dad.

Robert:

Sadly both he and Baur died, though the record of the exact cause of death for the latter seems spotty, during World War II.

Louis Morgan said...


8000's:

J. Lee Thompson's direction of Ice Cold in Alex is stellar work, particularly in terms of crafting a sense of place in the desert. You feel the heat, you sense the isolation, you particularly feel the dirt and grime of it all. There is a potently tangible quality he grants with the use of cinematography, sound, but also how he really throws the actors into it each time. Particularly in the quicksand scene, where the level of real dirtiness of it all is inescapable. Further though there is some particularly sharp work in terms of creating the intensity of the moments of survival. Again the whole quicksand scene, Thompson never skips a step, showing the real sense of unease of slowly sinking while not at all losing the tension of the attempted rescue. The whole fixing the strut scene is amazing work in terms of the use of editing and slow motion, that feels completely modern in having the pieces of the scene build on each other to craft that tension with so much immediacy. And there is of course the final climb, where just the shot of the ambulance almost getting over the crest is genius, as Thompson's choices make us feel the sheer Sisyphean nature of the task, but also the reward of reaching the apex feels as present. Thompson is able to make the arduous feel arduous, but stay compelling at the same time, which is no small feat. I think part of this is as much as it is a tension filled situation, he allows natural moments between the cast that grant the sense of growing camaraderie and even humor at times. A choice I love for example is the scene of Andrews spying on Quayle, that is almost a comedy scene despite the nature of it, however by having this moment light, and working as light, it balances the film out. Or of course the ending itself which has a great visual sense of depicting the "ice colds" but more so it is the way he composes the actors together as this tightly knit unit now that are far more than just a random crew put together.

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

While there are reasons to not love the ending, I wasn't sure about it myself on initial viewing, I think that's a silly overly cynical reason to do so, particularly as Fennell also included the information being sent to the obviously extremely repentant Molina character to sort of back up her other efforts. Personally I think that's an ending that successfully has its cake and eats it (a term I've never understood however since what's the point of cake unless you eat it?) because it forces you to reckon the repeated cruel joke of the dead "stripper/prostitute" however with a character you've grown to care about. Making a scene typically played for "laughs" be as abundantly hideous as it should be. It also allows Cassie the victory of comeuppance for the men but with the reckoning of having been so caught up her revenge, even as her friend's mother even moved past it, she loses her life.

Oliver Menard said...

Louis: Your thoughts on WKW's direction and the cinematography of Ashes of Time.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your rating and thoughts on Stephen Lang in Public Enemies? I just noticed he's not on a 2009 Supporting list.

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the original Pokemon theme.

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: And thoughts on these two scenes from The Fox And The Hound.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-21A9C0i9Wo&pp=ygUbdGhlIGZveCBhbmQgdGhlIGhvdW5kIHNjZW5l

www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyDqjoyjO8&pp=ygUcdGhlIGZveCBhbmQgdGhlIGhvdW5kIGNvcHBlcg%3D%3D

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Jonathan: Louis gave his thoughts on the original Pokemon theme song in Anton Yelchin's review for Hearts in Atlantis.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis and everyone: On the note of animated openings, actually, what are your thoughts on the following songs/intros?

Ben 10
The Spectacular Spider-Man
Justice League Unlimited

Matt Mustin said...

Mitchell: Spectacular Spider-Man is an amazing intro for an amazing show.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Mitchell:

Ben 10-filled to the brim with incorporating that certain sci-fi sound, which makes the song incredibly catchy, nostalgic and its replay value is off the charts.

The Spectacular Spider-Man-just some straightforward cool piece and interesting in that it sounds like something a typical 2000s band would make, yet it doesn't feel outdated at all. Just like a show itself, honestly.

Justice League Unlimited-really good combination of a grandiose opening and a wild sounding rest that hypes you up for the upcoming episode. In other words, pretty much the essence of superheroes summarized with a song.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these Siskel & Ebert reviews.

Date with an Angel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7HOj_q9p8
Teen Wolf Too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlKJtKNI5U

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt and Ytrewq: Couldn't agree more either both assessments.

I dare say TSSM is my single favourite piece of "Spider-Man" media - or at the very least, my favourite involving Peter Parker.

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: Here's a really cool detail about the series I learned not to long ago...

The names for the episodes revolve around academic subjects. For example, episodes 10-13 are based on psychology, with titles like "Persona", "Group Therapy", "Intervention" and "Nature Vs Nurture".

ALSO...I can't believe the voice of Harry Obsorn is the same guy who played Obi Wan from "Clone Wars"; Those performances don't even sound remotely similar!

8000S said...

Mitchell: Damn shame that Spectacular Spidey got cancelled.

Louis Morgan said...

Godzilla Minus One has some of the very best Godzilla sequences ever conceived, as every set piece with the monster works, has a visceral intensity and proves that it isn't just the technical specs but rather the method of the VFX use. While I'm sure the recent American Godzilla films have more technically impressive effects theoretically, those used here have a far greater impact through the way the shots are realized, with an essential sense of scale, a mix between grandeur and genuine horror in the realization of Godzilla. Of course as with every Godzilla film you then have to deal with the human scenes. Which here is where Minus One comes close to kind of fixing the essential flaw, but doesn't entirely pull it off. There is something honest here in the film dealing with survivor's guilt, the trauma of the war, and trying to rebuild a country through a singular found family. It does realize that investment in the characters, with an actual realized arc for our central figure. However it falls just a bit short of completely fixing the flaw, by these scenes occasionally dragging, and not just because you're waiting for more Godzilla, being a bit too on the nose at times, and the lead performer not quite carrying the most emotional moments fully. However, decent but imperfect dramatic human scenes are essentially masterful compared to many monster movies, and it does do what they need to do most, which is make you care about who lives and who dies.

Kamiki - 3
Hamabe - 3
Yamada - 2.5
Aoki - 3.5
Yoshioka - 3.5
Ando - 3.5
Sasaki - 3.5

Louis Morgan said...

Oliver:

Ashes of Time I'll admit is a Wong Kar-wai that doesn't work for me on almost any level. He obviously can make a visually stunning film, and there is his typical panache as such, however that is largely meaningless if I have no idea what is going on. Regardless of the specifics of the script, his direction here does nothing to ease your understanding of the time, place or characters. Things more or less happen in the way he presents them in this film. To be fair, his films often utilize the not knowing the meaning or at least the immediate meaning of certain moments, and I can even love a film that doesn't make sure everything is clear, e.g. most things by David Lynch. In this instance though there is nothing to suggest the story isn't important, in fact it seems to be very important, so the lack of clarity just makes the whole experience a series of confused images, that are well shot, however not necessarily in even the most coherent way. Where the failure lies here is in his storytelling, and I think this was also evident in The Grandmaster, where when the plot drives the film, the plot needs to be clear, where is in his other efforts the plot isn't the driving force therefore one can get away with his style, that doesn't work here for me in the slightest.

The cinematography of course is striking however, though I do think tight shots are overused, however that is more so on the direction. Regardless, the intensity of the vibrancy of the color, the dynamic way every wider shot is conceived are that of an epic watercolor painting. It's a beautiful looking film, which again is the least of one's concerns with Wong.

Ytrewq:

Lang - 4(He's terrific and the re-watch only cemented the fact in my mind that perhaps he should've been the Dillinger counterpart the whole time rather than Bale at his dullest. Anyway though Lang just exudes the seasoned vet energy with this incisive knowledge in his manner that creates this sort of innate strength about the man before he even does anything. But his physical work in the shooting scene is great because you see essentially a man like Dillinger who does blink when the fight's on and will go toe to toe without exception. Then he has his final scene with Cotillard, where he brings I think this pitch perfect underlying sense of warmth, even while completely maintaining this calmly official man of the law.)

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Well the first two scenes support my point, as the first scene is funny in the later more farcical comedy both with Bill and Marty's moment and the Bart Simpson balloon. Which I think actually clashes a little bit with the attempt at observational with Kent Brockman and the hobos, that I don't think are as effective.

The Santa sequence of training again is slightly amusing in the ridiculousness of it, but again I think the timing/tone don't quite add up the humor too much. Again though the moments of Homer and Bart involving trying to have a Christmas do work though.

Jonathan Williams:

Have to admit having not watched the film in some time, the first scene is genuinely extremely intense, and not just by Disney standards in terms of how much you really do feel the dire situation with the Foxes where they up the ante in every step of the sequence. And genuinely make the moments between Tod and Cooper fighting actually fairly brutal.

The second scene I do remember, and do remember, and even now find it quite moving. And I'll say the scene is nicely realized by not overdoing the music in the moment, instead letting the animation speak for itself first, and naturally finding the power of the moment without forcing it.

Tony:

Date With An Angel, firstly is one of those films where you see a review of where you can't help but say "that existed?". The review turns to greatness when Ebert's softhearted review is hilariously broken by Siskel repeating "sexual!", only topped by when Ebert basically admits to being just turned on by Emmanuelle Beart (which can't blame him) for his reason for recommending it and Siskel's blunt reactions to it are just great.

Teen Wolf Too's review goes from a fairly straightforward review of just a casual dismissal of a bad film to also greatness, where again Ebert's pushing Date With An Angel and again it is absolutely hilarious both how much Ebert insists on recognizing Beart's attractiveness as the reason to watch her film, against Siskel being in disbelief. Together a truly classic pair of reviews.

Matt Mustin said...

Just looked at that Date With an Angel review. That is classic.

"She is a very beautiful woman."
"So what?"

Razor said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Minus One cast and any interest in checking out Monarch (the new MonsterVerse show)?

8000S said...

Louis: Why do you think most of Shamroy's other work fails to live up to his work in Leave Her to Heaven? The directors, maybe?

Matt Mustin said...

I'm thinking about a hypothetical Siskel and Ebert discussion on Scorsese's Silence and I'm wondering what they'd both think of it. Ebert I think would love it unreservedly, I think Siskel would too but I'm not sure.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Matt: I'm pretty sure it would have been Ebert's #1 for the 2010s as well.

Anonymous said...

Louis: thoughts on the NYFCC winners?

Tim said...

R.I.P. Frances Sternhagen

Louis Morgan said...

Razor:

I heard it's decent, so maybe, I mean I do like the Russells.

Kamiki & Hamabe - (Their performances I think do have a nice earnestness to them in the lower key scenes. There's a charm about them just being sincere as they are in their way. When the scenes get their most dramatic I think the two fall into that specific Japanese style of overacting common in bad Godzilla movies where they immediately go to the biggest emotions immediately. There is a difference where I do think both are honestly trying to convey what the character's are going through in the moment, it's just too much and just pulling it back a bit could've made their key moments together quite powerful, instead they're the weakest in the film just because they're too big, or at least can't quite deliver that "big" in a believable way.)

Yamada - (I mean not quite a cartoon character but of the boat crew the one that leans that way the most, weakening his bigger dramatic moments and his key moment near the end.)

Aoki, Yoshioka, Ando, Sasaki - (All bring a pro energy and all play the parts as though they are in a realistic drama, not a Godzilla film. And I think, if the leads were as good as these four are, in more limited roles, this could've been an even greater film. These four though are dialed in wonderfully in terms of just bringing genuine emotion in just a quiet and exact way. They have more emotional moments, but they build towards it and earn them. The boat crew in particular are good in the gravity they bring in their reactions, and the sincerity when delivering exposition related to Godzilla. I'll single out Ando, who seems in her opening scene ready to act with Kore-eda again with just how much she brings initially, she gets a more rote part of just the supportive sort surrogate mother character, but regardless her performance brings only a greater depth within what is there.)

8000's:

Well again I think the real test of a great cinematographer is, are they still great with different directors. Like Deakins is pretty much always great no matter who he is working with. With Shamroy, if you really look at his work in color, he pretty much wanted to emphasize all the colors all the time. In the instance of Leave Her to Heaven, his best work, you can see the director perhaps then chose more carefully what would be vibrant in terms of what he controlled, like costumes, and by doing so made it so dynamic in particular.

Louis Morgan said...

RIP Frances Sternhagen

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Nolan winning here is a big (also love the choice), like we knew he was going to be a contender regardless, but critics seemed like potentially the bigger mountain, so getting recognized here moves him at least just a little bit closer towards unstoppable status. Conversely Killers is positioning itself as nominee only in picture, given The Artist was the last time NY lined up with Oscar.

Gladstone win is also notable, because it instantly stops Stone from being a sweeper. Randolph is a fine first step, as I could see her easily being the winner if The Holdovers becomes a top fiver. Also great choice for the former, very good choice for the latter.

Rogowski I think is just the curve ball winner that doesn't really go anywhere, NY usually has at least one, as Passages really doesn't feel like an Academy film and Rogowski isn't a known name in the US.

Melton I think could become something if he starts sweeping, however he doesn't fit the typical supporting actor profile all that well, furthermore May December could easily be critics only. And yes Haynes has gotten other actors in, but they were all far more established. Regardless, he's definitely in the conversation as a nominee.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on this 1993 interview with Masaki Kobayashi.

http://eigageijutsu.blogspot.com/2011/12/interview-with-masaki-kobayashi.html

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Furiosa trailer.

Matt Mustin said...

Hemsworth looks awesome in that Furiosa trailer.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I think it's now the right time to ask what are your 10 most anticipated films of 2024 and your reasons why for each.

Oliver Menard said...

I'll be the first here to criticize this trailer. It looks like George and WB went with a more traditional (and safer) way of making this film. Fury Road was one of the most beautiful films of the 2010's with incredible fighting, vehicle and stunt work. There was plenty of retouching with CGI but it generally looked very good. Furiosa looks like entire sequences have been filmed in a studio with a couple shots bordering on 300 tier. Keeping an open mind but comparing this to the first look at Fury Road is night and day to me.

Matt Mustin said...

Oliver: I actually kind of agree with you.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

A long interview so I'll give it the proper time soon.

Luke:

Uh, Miller I trust with Mad Max but MAN do I miss John Seale from just this brief look at it, and if he had the choice of using Seale for Three Thousand Years of Longing or this he made the WRONG choice. And comparing this to the first Fury Road trailer, there is no comparison to had, not that I think this looks bad, it just doesn't look absolutely amazing which was the case for the first Fury Road trailer. Still looking forward to it, but was hoping to be blown away and wasn't. I do think it might have a lot to do with Simon Duggan over Seale, as the work I've seen of his involving CGI tend to look like CGI (e.g. The Great Gatsby and 300: Rise of an Empire), compared to the near flawless implementation of CGI by Miller/Seale in Fury Road.

Let me work on that.

Calvin Law said...

Re: NYFCC, super happy with the Rogowski choice, long overdue for some critics love, and Gladstone and Randolph are great choices. Very looking forward to seeing May December this weekend. Will admit I wish they went a bit more idiosyncratic/offbeat overall but one really can't complain about directing/cinematography for Oppenheimer, KOTFM for Film, Anatomy and especially Past Lives (though I do worry that it might just end up getting First Film prizes across the board, but that's okay).

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Thoughts on these scenes from The Adventures Of Tintin
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPi32RftV70&pp=ygUeVGhlIGFkdmVudHVyZXMgb2YgdGludGluIHNjZW5l

00:00-03:10 of this scene
www.youtube.com/watch?v=flyUvLYB0Yc&pp=ygUeVGhlIGFkdmVudHVyZXMgb2YgdGludGluIHNjZW5l

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryB-3BRdd64&pp=ygUeVGhlIGFkdmVudHVyZXMgb2YgdGludGluIHNjZW5l

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your top 10 favorite guest stars on King of the Hill?

Calvin Law said...

Well having now seen May December...yeah it deserves all the buzz it's getting. Definitely one of my favourites of the year and give Melton all the awards.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the cast of May/December?

I’m gonna start watching it right now actually.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these S&E reviews.

Good Burger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H-PJJpsGEw
Crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRaqDDXnLtE
Silver Bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw60nk4qJqU&t=95

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

May December was terrific, and Melton's easily my Supporting win. Devastating performance.

Portman - 4.5
Moore - 4.5
Melton - 5
Chung - 3.5
Smith - 3.5
Moffett - 3.5
Everyone else - A collective 3

Louis Morgan said...

May December I found to be a strange bird that I rather enjoyed. Kind of Haynes doing Almodovar in some ways, though without the random diversions I hate, though similar in terms of the inclusion of the smearing together of melodramatic with the honest, art with reality, a very overt score and of course very centered around emotional scenes of performance. The blend between an actress trying to make the greatest Lifetime movie of all time, based on the real disturbing story of a female pedophile, is a weird one, and I will say the former aspects are very funny, if in the darkest way possible, though I do think the film loses its grip on that aspect just a bit as the film goes on,. The latter is emotional and there is power in slowly unraveling just how toxic and disturbing the whole thing is in an unorthodox though captivating way. The film is a whole lot given the nature of its two sides, but a whole lot where I found myself fascinated by its choices, and mostly loving the choices, except again a little bit of Portman's story towards the end.

Although I'm leaning Melton towards leading, though in the way where he's supporting in the first act, but becomes co-lead during the rest of the film. I'll be interested to see how the screentime shakes out.

Portman - 4.5 (A role that plays to her weaknesses actually)
Moore - 4.5
Smith - 3.5
Moffett - 3.5

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast, and could I have your ratings and thoughts on Gabriel Chung as well?

Matthew Montada said...

I liked May December a lot as well, although i’m not quite as high on it as a lot of people are. Leaning towards a 3.5/5 and 4/5, but i will still very satisfied with it. Top-notch performances though.

Cast Ratings:
Natalie Portman - 4.5/5
Julianne Moore - 5
Charles Melton - 5
Gabriel Chung - 3
Cory Michael Smith - 3
D.W. Moffett - 3.5

Louis Morgan said...

I pretty much loved Dream Scenario for all its strangeness, where it manages to be both hilarious and anxiety inducing in equal parts. Much like dreams themselves explores successfully both the power of them in terms of their potential, but also the horrible implications of what happens when they go wrong. Equally though works as a parable for fame which much like dreams swings both ways in extreme highs and lows. But it also just works as a character study of a man who gets his Monkey Paw wish for importance, without the effort, personality, stamina or just the natural good grace on how to handle it.

Nicholson - 4
Cera - 4
Meadows - 3.5
Gelula - 3.5
Baker - 3
Berlant - 3.5
Bird & Clement - 3
Braun - 3.5

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Dream Scenario cast.

Calvin Law said...

*blinks*

*rubs eyes*

Louis giving a 4 for a Michael Cera performance?

Calvin Law said...

I also don't disagree that Melton could be Lead, though I have him as Supporting, it really is borderline to the point that either category works - also interested in the screen time.

Matthew:

Portman - 5
Julianne Moore - 5
Charles Melton - 5
Gabriel Chung - 4
Cory Michael Smith - 3.5
D.W. Moffett - 3.5

Everyone else in the ensemble I'd basically give a collective 3.5.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...
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Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on May December's Oscar chances outside of Melton? While I still think he's probably the most likely place to recognize the film (alongside Original Screenplay), I can see Moore making it into Supporting Actress as well.

Anonymous said...

Luke, your updated lineup predictions for 2023 (Nominees and Alternate)

Luke Higham said...

Lead
Cooper
Murphy
DiCaprio
Giamatti
Wright

Howerton
Yoo
Sessa
Fassbender
Sarsgaard
Cage
Scott
Yakusho
Mikkelsen
Efron/Bernal

I'm leaving Phoenix out for now until there's a release date announcement and could end up being the surprise 11th review.

Supporting
Downey Jr.
Gosling
De Niro
Ruffalo
Melton

Dafoe
McCallany/White
Magaro
Whishaw
Mescal/Tucker (The former could be a leading role)

Emi Grant said...

Is that a Cage performance getting saved I see?

Looking forward to both movies.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Reading the interview, Kobayashi doesn't surprise in his focus on specific aspects such as the use of sound, as his films are so precise in their vision. Overall though what the interview shows is the Japanese filmmaker who was specifically post-war, more so than Kurosawa who started during the war, as Kobayashi's films are specifically so anti-authoritarian, and creating the sense of the cruelty of such a society. And it isn't surprising to hear where his view of this topic speaks to, and where one can see a filmmaker so clearly, and powerfully defined as such.

Luke:

Dune 2 - (I mean let's see it now.)

Mickey 17 - (Still Bong.)

Nosferatu - (Eggers just approaching Dracula imagery is enough for me to want to see him doing no wrong for me so far, also helps.)

Beyond the Spider-Verse - (Seems likely to be moved to 2025, but looking forward to it regardless particularly with the nature of the cliffhanger.)

Safdie Brothers/Sandler Film - (No more needs to be said.)

Furiosa - (Even though I didn't love the trailer, I'm still obviously eager to see this one.)

Megalopolis - (Could just be a complete mess, but I would like to know whatever this is exactly as one more attempt at an epic by Coppola.)

Drive-Away Dolls - (Trailer was intriguing enough, but more importantly let's see what part of the Coen brothers Ethan represented.)

Havoc - (Hardy and Evans pairing sounds like an ideal duo.)

The Order - (I've been finding Kurzel have been improving per film, and the notion of Hoult as a charismatic leader of a radical groups sounds most intriguing)

Jonathan Williams:

A fun way to do exposition, even if I think Spielberg has it occasionally a little too "close" but he does make use of the animation via the ridiculousness of the one ship getting caught in the other.

Again efficiency in storytelling by having the present day story move along while conveying the exposition in the far more dynamic way of visualizing it, by pairing the Haddocks together in what's fun enough.

And the third scene I suppose is again, where despite some features about the film making one ponder why they couldn't have done it in live action, the use of the opera singing as the device to opening the glass case is indeed only in animation, as is the more specific moments between Snowy (although there was probably a way to have Snow work in live action, but Spielberg definitely pushes the envelope by allowing him to do whatever and the hawk). The scene's terrific classic action Spielberg overall though, and feels like something closer to what we should've gotten instead of Indiana Jones Crystal Skull Jungle chase (looks more realistic too). Where the sequence is constantly moving forward, with an exact objective, great use of the environment and having all the leads to something throughout. Probably the best scene in the film honestly.

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

1. Matthew McConaughey (Rad Tibayooxxxx the most underrated animated character)
2. Alan Rickman
3. Brian Doyle-Murray
4. Snoop Dogg
5. Reese Witherspoon
6. Michael Keaton
7. Brad Pitt
8. Drew Carey
9. Gary Busey
10. Brendan Fraser

Danny Trejo would be on the list, but I'd say he made too many appearances.

Tony:

Good Burger is a hilarious review, as it gets instantly derailed in debating the intelligence of Ed, which is great, particularly as Ebert gives it a negative review he just questions the intensity of Gene's belief in their stupidity. And again why they were great, because there's probably not too much to say about the film, but going off randomly on the side topic make it an extremely entertaining review, despite feeling completely natural in the swerve.

Crash is a great review because they each articulate the perspective of their own way to look at the film, to effectively convey to the audience what you will see. You have Gene just rejecting it entirely as nonsense, which is a fair take...use it myself. Where Ebert does a great job of articulating what he saw in it and what Cronenberg was going for, though I would disagree that someone might dislike it because it was too tough, perhaps they might just find it dull and uninteresting despite being shocking.

Silver Bullet is often the great reviews where the one savors the negative review, with Siskel lovingly describing every bad part of it, particularly love his description of the "once" great actor Gary Busey then going about the list. To be shattered with Ebert agrees seemingly with the review, but as that it is all as a brilliant parody. I haven't seen the film therefore can grant credence or not to the notion, however I love Gene "it's his fault" then Ebert's bright smile as "he'll take the blame".

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Portman - (Again not always my favorite actor, but here's a performance that completely works for me, as it plays into her often labored, if not artificial approach to parts, as an actor who is labored and artificial. And not that I think Portman is intentionally bad, there is intention within the approach, particularly as she takes on Moore's traits throughout the film which Portman executes quite well if also overtly, though purposefully overtly. But the way she's artificial though is with a sense for comedic ridiculousness in the way she plays the fascination with the part, and then the moments of the further performance that are too much though played with the utmost conviction. The one play where I think this maybe breaks is her big long monologue, which I actually do think is well performed by Portman, however the scene on the whole didn't quite work for me, again figuring where to place Portman at the end was the one thing that didn't really work for me in general. However even with that I still liked everything Portman did in the later scenes, even though I like her early and middle scenes the most when constructing the performance part of her performance.)

Moore - (She could potentially go up on re-watch because there is a whole lot to her performance and it is one where I do ponder what she's doing in the earlier scenes. As just initial viewing you see her just being the gracious seemingly loving mother and wife, if just a bit intense in her whole manner though you can accept it enough. Her performance then becomes basically creating the cracks in this in different ways. The moments where she begins to become more vicious towards Portman, Moore does some amazing work in terms of creating this sense of the passive aggressive, but also the sense of a demented quality to her work. Moore creates this sense of almost the "play" of her own character who is putting on her "part" as well as the woman who was the predator but presents herself as the victim. Her best scenes though are with Melton because you see sort of the overwhelming put on of care, that slowly reveals itself to this particularly painful sense of constant manipulation in one form or another and becomes diabolical in a way that feels this natural revelation of her true nature.)

Moffett - (Like what he brought in his brief work, in portraying probably the least damaged person within the whole situation, but reflecting this kind of still disbelief towards the whole thing as he tries his best to talk about it though fails to do so.)

Louis Morgan said...

Smith - (Contrasting that is the guy who is completely broken by the whole thing, and I think his sort of near mania approach to the part worked for me, in creating the sense of the man who really can't get over it so is just constantly thinking of it.)

Chung - 3.5(It's all about the rooftop scene, as the other scenes with him, he's good in showing the sort of distance of someone not comfortable in a situation, unfortunately there is no way to escape it. The rooftop scene that I will just say he's an essential scene partner at the moment.)

Anonymous:

Nicholson - (It's the role she's typically in as the more modest but warm wife. And as much as it isn't new ground for her, she's always good in this kind of role and this is no different.)

Cera - (Yes I did enjoy his comedic hijinks for once, though in this instance it just worked for me in his sort of unadulterated and specific enthusiasm of wanting to make whatever work and really selling everything as something with potential no matter what it may be.)

Meadows - (A straightforward part, however some nice funny moments in just the reactions around his lines.)

Gelula - (Her performance is essential in the facilitator in the most overtly comedic scene, though I did like what she did in portraying not exact lust rather this odd sort of basic intriguement towards the whole idea.)

Baker - (Relatively straightforward but delivers well the switch for this curious fascination to a more curious certain unpleasant dismay.)

Berlant - (Less to do than Cera, but enjoyed the similar sort of sell everything tone.)

Bird & Clement - (Brief bits consistently but liked what they did more or less by not overplaying it.)

Braun - (A super quick bit, but I quite enjoyed his whole manner as the "noble" CEO type even for a short bit.)

Tahmeed:

I wouldn't say Melton is close to a lock by any means, though his NY win is a good start. Maybe the four seeming locks aren't locks, but if they are there's a last spot scenario where I feel it's probably between Melton and Sessa or a dark horse, each having a different advantage, Melton being slightly more established, likely having more critical wins, but probably the weaker the film. Sessa has probably the stronger film with the academy, and I would say maybe the role voters might respond to more. Honestly I think Melton might benefit from missing SAG and BAFTA, that way he can come in at the last minute like Brian Tyree Henry, if he's the film's only shot. Because I could see the film being a turn off due to subject matter, even though it isn't at all overt about it, but just in terms of the log line so to speak that might prevent some from giving it a chance.

In terms of the rest, I think original screenplay is possible, just because the category seems quite open, but I could as easily see it missing for something like Air. I think that's probably it. Moore, should theoretically be in contention, but I think she needs to get some critical wins here to kind of get in the conversation. Her category certainly seems open, but if Melton will need the passion push, and he might become the focal point, leaving Moore possibly out.

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