Sunday 8 October 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1958: Chhabi Biswas in Jalsaghar

Chhabi Biswas did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Biswambhar Roy in Jalsaghar.

Jalsaghar tells the story of an older Indian lord.

A pleasure of mine from this endeavor can be when I purposefully don't look too much into the synopsis of a particular film, which is often the case if it is from a director I already like and the film has general acclaim. So I went into this one blind, and was in for a few surprises in its tale of Roy's days as a lord. When we open the film I didn't know where the film was going to take the character or me in terms of this journey, as we begin with the man seemingly just being contemplative and a bit demanding of his ever stoic, though not emotionless, estate manager, who is always trying and failing to as politely as possible slightly urge his lord to do what needs to be done. Biswas though exudes a man of wealth and really just of wealth. A man whose whole existence is within his estate and the whims he finds himself in, and what he's most fixated on. There is no great concern, despite plenty to the contrary, in the man's mind and Biswas brings this pitch perfect aloofness of a man who settles on his interests and his interests only. And those interests are largely just the music in his music room, which he eagerly goes to listen to, and in that we do see the man come to life and there is a keen interest in the eyes of Biswas as he looks upon the performer. The first being a woman, who I thought the film might go in a different direction given his wife's reaction to her, but in this particular point Biswas speaks as a man just earnestly infatuated, however infatuated with the music he's hearing. 

When Roy is given news of maybe some trouble with his estate all that Roy hears is that he hopes to have more music and music to properly serenade his son as well, despite the concerns of his wife that his son is becoming just like him. Again what Biswas's performance portrays without question is a sense of entitlement where his reactions don't really even quantify what his wife and manager are saying beyond the most minor elements. He's in a world of indifference and one of just enjoying what he wishes to enjoy how he wishes to enjoy it. And I suppose an important factor in making it so you don't immediately hate him, as really troublesome as he is, Biswas does present a purity within that love for the music, even sharing it with his son with this strict appreciation of it together. However the man's ignorance only continues as his wife basically pleads with him to actually take a trip and break his routine of basically laying around between when he listens to music. Again though he ignores the pleas where Biswas has the smile on his face of the sense of a man who just is in love with what he is experiencing so to even think about disrupting it, even for the sake of his wife doesn't even graze his eyes even for a moment. Biswas presents a man who is truly accustomed to his very comfortable experience, and nothing can seemingly break him from this spirit, it would seem. 

That is until tragedy surprisingly strikes his family, and much of his fortune is lost in a typhoon. And I think as good as Biswas is setting up really the hubris of the man awaiting the fall, he is amazing in the visceral reaction of the horror of his realization in the moment. For all his ambivalence to the troubles of life Biswas brings a real sense of the loss in the scene so potently. He is maybe even more striking in the following scene as the man just seems now just lost in his grief, and the pain on Biswas's face is indeed heartbreaking. The man's reality seems like it should be shattered as his performance shows just how much the man has gone through, however this only causes Roy to become even more insulated in his life. Biswas delivers his orders as quickly as possible, as kind of insisting statements of someone needing everything to be as he makes it, as it must be. The conviction of it though no longer is a man just trying to enjoy life but rather a man basically trying to ignore his trauma by completely shutting out the world around him. Which he almost does, despite much requiring his attention particularly his loss in finances and nearly losing everything. The idea of music still brings Roy's attention around and Biswas is great because again it is with earnest pleasure, however now when the notion appears it is with this even tighter fixation in his eyes of a man not just wanting to escape, rather absolutely needing it to be. 

Biswas in the final act of the film is brilliant in presenting a man completely lost in his delusions. We first see when he looks upon his old music room and Biswas's expression is haunting as the idea of the escape seems ever more needed yet ever more of the respite of a man losing all grip to reality. When he does get his music again the joy is real, albeit briefly for as long as it lasts. As we follow it as the man proclaims his importance of being a lord and Biswas declares all these grand statements with a prideful lunacy. Biswas evokes the state of a man in nearly losing all senses and he admires the portraits of his forefathers and himself. The latter being the key of the scene as he looks upon the portrait of himself that is marred briefly by a spider and Biswas's physical work in the "attack" that doesn't even remove the spider is of a man caught in this strange dreamland no longer really interacting with the world. And we see the man as he speaks in the final scenes of the man attempting one final act of being his lording self, and Biswas's performance brings this sense of broken jubilation. The man's mania is unquestioned as he goes headlong into his pursuit, and there is in his eyes the sense of a man truly lost within his obsessions that he let rule and control his life to a tired end. This is a great performance by Chhabi Biswas that depicts an extremely idiosyncratic personal downfall, yet never does it feel detached even in its most outlandish moments. Creating a powerful portrait of quite simply the dangers of losing perspective. 

83 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and Thoughts on the Cast.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Phenomenal performance. Ray once said that he didn't write any middle-aged characters that required 'a lot of talent' after Biswas's death, and it's very easy to see why here.

Louis: Your thoughts on Ray's direction, and the second music room performance/where Biswambhar realizes what he's doomed his family to? Biswas's reaction is brilliant there.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on the Sopranos episode In Camelot?

Also, your top 10 Treehouse of Horror segments?

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Any plans to see Exorcist Believer at all?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Saving Lahiri.

Devi - 3.5(Relatively brief performance, however I really liked the sort of blunt sense she brought to the performance, even as she drew this sense of kind of deferring grace to the whole method. She's playing the wife trying to be the wife as is the cultural expectation of the time, but always with the underlying frustration behind it all.)

Gupta - 3(Liked the simple sincerity of his performance, again albeit briefly.)

Bose - 3.5(Works as contrast of a man in a way also involved with his presumptions and caught up with his own expectation, however with this sort of unlikeable smarmy quality behind him, even though theoretically most probably ought to have more in common with his character than Biswas's. His performance though works as the presentation of one's pride, which he makes unlikable in the right way.)

Sarkar - 3.5(Nearly one note, but in the right way. Particularly as his performance works as contrast to one another, and he paints the right sense of someone giving a pure devotion even as nearly everyone else has given up on the lord.)

Tahmeed:

As with many a great filmmaker, Ray's ability to maneuver tone is so remarkable, as he engages on the level of tragedy which he builds often with silences, even nearly gothic horror in the final scene in the music room, where he emphasizes the loneliness of the central figure who he shows is lost both within his space and particularly when out of it. But its often comical when we see others reacting to him, where the closeup is emphasized by Ray, and he earns the laugh out of reacting to Roy's delusions, whether it is his wife's conversations or the reactions of the servants. But there's also the music room sequences which each have a different meaning I'd say, but all are consistent in that Ray does want us to appreciate the artistry of the music, which he does. But even so, creating different meaning with each scene of song, and the second one in particular with this a song that technically isn't an escape because it happens to remind of his choices, where he is actually distracted from the music, which we see in performance but also Ray showing the train of thought with the different atmospheric shots building dread. I would say Biswambhar still isn't exactly completely aware of foolishness even when this spelled out, but rather can't escape the sinking feeling for once, as much as he'd like to.

Tony:

A rare kind of "eh" episode for me, mainly because I didn't think Fran was all that interesting other than just providing the context of just how worthless Tony's dad was as well. Mixed in as well with not exactly ever loving J.T. Dolan all that much (and that's even with Daly being always the ideal Superman voice in my mind). Not that I think any of it is bad mind you, it's fine at worst, but not one I typically look up scenes from to re-watch.

1. "The Shinning"
2. "Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace" (Also surprisingly genuinely scary)
3. "Lisa's Nightmare"
4. "Clown Without Pity"
5. "the Devil and Homer Simpson"
6. "Bart's Nightmare"
7. "Terror at 51/2 feet"
8. "Nightmare Cafeteria"
9. "Hungry Are the Damned"
10. "Homer's Nightmare"

Matt:

Halloween Kills cured me of ever wanting to see David Gordon Green do horror again...unless he's acting in it without directing again. He REALLY should stick to the low key Indies, he's actually good at that.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Isao Tomita's score and Hanjiro Nakazawa's cinematography in A Fugitive from the Past.

Calvin Law said...

Yeah, Biswas is fantastic and agreed on everything you've said about him (and the film).

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Will you be reviewing Utpal Dutt in Agantuk in January.

Luke Higham said...

And thoughts on the title song from Oblivion.

Anonymous said...

Louis, Ridley Scott confirmed that Napoleon's extended cut will be on streaming after the theatrical release. Do you intend to watch both versions.

Luke Higham said...

I predict that the theatrical version will get 4 stars and the director's cut will be 4.5 at the bare minimum.

Anonymous said...

Louis: do you think Barbie’s campaign for Original Screenplay will actually work?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

The score I didn't find overly memorable, though certainly not bad, what I took more of a note were the sort of messing with the sound mix moments that were effective.

The cinematography is mostly straight prestige Japanese cinematography from the period, and in a good way. Although thrown in are the stylistic negative frame scenes, that I entirely love or dislike.

Luke:

I gave my thoughts on the song awhile ago, Robert had asked me about it.

Anonymous:

Along with Rebel Moon (though I'm far more interested in Napoleon as a film), I'm not a fan of these preemptive director cut announcements. I mean just release the best cut to begin with. I also find it strange both are coming from films that are paid for by streaming services where length should matter less. Of course also longer doesn't mean better (nor does shorter) just find the right balance to begin with. Honestly my hope is the first release of Napoleon is amazing, and I find no need for a director's cut.

Anonymous:

I doubt it, as other films have tried and failed to convince Oscar, even after being approved by WGA. Whiplash and Moonlight for example, both which frankly I think had better claims to be called original than Barbie does. The only precedent even slightly close (and its not close) is Gangs of New York, which was successfully placed original as its source material is essentially an encyclopedia on that period of New York, but everything is based on historical fact therefore falling into original is convincing enough. Barbie though is based on previously created material, with specific previously created characters in the film, so I don't see how they can argue it out of adapted.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I find it very strange that Apple were fine with Killers Of The Flower Moon's running time yet couldn't do the same for Napoleon. I think the theatrical version will focus far more on his military genius and less so on his relationship with Josephine. I might be reading it wrong but I have to disagree on 2 1/2 hours being the right length for a Napoleon Bonaparte film.

Louis Morgan said...

Though Passages was good but slightly mixed. The one fully fleshed out character to me was Martin, and he was enough overall to keep me engaged, meanwhile Franz Rogowski's Tomas is intentionally frustrating in his petulance, however I feel there wasn't enough "else" to the character to really fully motivate two seemingly far more sensible people to be repeatedly far less sensible for his sake. And Adèle Exarchopoulos's Agathe, who was nice to see again, but I felt her role was altogether underwritten. Still the scenes that work are quite good, but much seemed left on the table here.

Saving Whishaw.

Rogowski - 4
Exarchopoulos - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Rogowski and Exarchopoulos. Category placement for Whishaw.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on The Shinning, Nightmare Cafeteria, Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace, and Clown Without Pity?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your Satyajit Ray ranking, and your top 10 directing moments of his so far?

8000S said...

Louis: Considering we got a definitive portrayal of Patton with Scott, who would you cast as Winfield Scott, Douglas MacArthur and John Pershing in biopics? I don't think we have gotten a definitive portrayal of MacArthur yet.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: I feel stupid for not realizing this earlier, but I think I won one of the lineups for 2009 Lead (based on my comments on Song Kang-ho's review for Thirst).

Bryan L. said...

Luke: You can find Louis’s thoughts for that song in Carl Anderson’s review for Jesus Christ Superstar.

Anonymous said...

Luke, What is your Top 5 prediction for Best Director 2023.

Luke Higham said...

In no particular order:
Christopher Nolan (Oppenheimer)
Martin Scorsese (Killers Of The Flower Moon)
Ridley Scott (Napoleon, if he does watch the 4+ hour cut)
Yorgos Lanthimos (Poor Things)
Jonathan Glazer (The Zone Of Interest)

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys.
Can someone help me? In Louis' wallpaper, what are the frames from the films that are between:
1) The Godfather Part 2 and Doctor Zhivago
2) The Right Stuff and The Sword of Doom
3) A Fistful of Dollars and Parasite

Calvin Law said...

Luke: Whishaw is supporting, as is Exarchopoulos.

Tony Kim said...

Shaggy: I believe #3 is The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Matt Mustin said...

Shaggy: I think number 1 is Valhalla Rising and number 2 is Mr Turner

Shaggy Rogers said...

Tony and Matt: Thanks.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Rogowski - (It's a good performance that for me isn't able to completely overcome the limitations of the role, which purposefully boxes his Tomas in as extremely frustrating. I think it might've helped the film if we saw more of him directing maybe, or at least doing something to more overtly show his appeal, rather than frankly it seems like his character's appeal is entirely physical for the other characters, which is a bit limiting. Rogowski though certainly is good in portraying the petulant qualities in a believable way that manages to be childish in a way that is extremely convincing for an adult. Rogowski emphasizes sort of the quick solution manner and showing the immediate frustration whenever there's anything requiring a little bit more thought on his end. He's particularly good in the scene with Agathe's parents, in showing just how quickly his character shirks responsibility as basically the instinctual response and how unpleasant he becomes when forced to reckon with these ideas. Contrasting that the sort of presumed ability to get whatever pleasure he desires Rogowski delives with a purposeful thinness of expectation more in line with a brat than a man, but again fitting the role.)


Exarchopoulos - (Limited by the role, which I think there was far little too overall, both in terms of the relationship with Tomas, but also in terms of what was going on with her internally. Having said that, her performance is always good at creating the reality of every given scene, particularly the more emotional one's such as her final scene with Whishaw. I wish there was more for her to dive into however on the whole, because she's good with what she has, I just wish she had more.)

Tony:

The Shinning - (It's an ideal parody because in such a short segment it manages to tell all of the Shining, with part of the humor being the pace of Homer's fall. Love the blood gag of getting off the wrong floor, and the true horror of the hotel being the Christmas Specials. Mr. Burns's purposeful sabotage, based on wanting to get some honest work, though is particular gold, particular Burns not even conceding that it caused the previous murders and offering a coke if everyone is indeed murdered. Homer's fall though is the best, from immediately to going "I'll kill you all", to Moe's motivation of "they'd be much happier as ghouls" and of course "No TV and No Beer make Homer something something" is genius. Then the titular power being used perfectly, with Willie's downfall being exactly from the Shining with the quickness of it and completely hilarious. And the solution, and the switch on frozen Jack is perfect, right down to the "urge to kill". Just every gag works here while completely telling the whole story.)


Nightmare Cafeteria - (One that does fall into a non-ending, which usually is what kept some lower on the list for me, where the resolution is more so related to the special itself than the specific short. However the overall episode is hilarious enough that it all works, with the great gag just being how bluntly evil Skinner is about the whole thing that is great with each point such as his "well might we" to Jimbo's "eat me", his cooking time given to Uter, or my favorite being his turnaround on Bart by suggesting he'll start eating by how he so frequently suggested by "eating his short". And again Willie's insta demise is great and love his frustration of "uhh I'm bad at this" as the hat trick capper. And also love Marge's particularly unsympathetic reaction to the whole situation that breaks any normal logic for the joke, but a great joke it is.)

Louis Morgan said...


Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace - (Funny that Willie went from the humble, if faulty, hero of the previous Treehouse to being a main villain. Anyway, great sendup of Nightmare on Elm Street, though one that genuinely plays with the horror elements, including using what is essentially the score of the film, or at least heavily stylized to be similar to. And has moments that fully play into the idea of the horror that are well done, as even Willie's demise, as comical as it is on the whole, it is genuinely eerie, even if funny, with the silence on the "in their dreams" and the sweeping powers. Also though it is very funny, whether it be smarch weather, or the greater concern over fiery Willie being Spaghetti dinners for Milhouse. And have always loved the resolution especially powerless Willie's "boo".)


Clown Without Pity - (Talk about a random title pun in terms of film reference, but forgetting that, an extremely hilarious straight parody of Talking Tina. Just the very image of the little Krust going after Homer is more than enough, but every bit is great with particular affection for the "that's bad/that's good" with the shop owner. And love the ending of the switch just being wrong and the randomly romantic wipe ending.)


Shaggy:


Tony and Matt are correct.


Tahmeed:


1. Nayak
2. Jalsaghar
3. Mahanagar
4. Charulata
5. Paather Panchali
6. Joi Baba Felunath
7. Shatranj Ke Khilari
8. Agantuk
9. Teen Kanya
10. Pratidwandi
11. Aranyer Din Ratri


#11 being totally fine still.


1. Dream - Nayak
2. Foreboading Storm - Jalsaghar
3. Ami Chini Go Chini Tomare - Charulata
4. Admiring Portraits - Jalsaghar
5. Confronting the boss - Mahanagar
6. Storm - Paather Panchali
7. Visit from the actress - Nayak
8. Ending - Charulata
9. Confronting the villain - Joi Baba Felunath
10. Final Ride - Jalsaghar

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Winfield Scott: Alexander Skarsgård
MacArthur: Adam Driver
Pershing: Dan Stevens

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: I almost believed Mr. Turner's frame was from The Zero Theorem

8000S said...

Louis: While I don't have any problem with Red Beard at all as a movie, reading about how it took two years to complete, makes you wonder if Mifune would have continued his collaboration with Kurosawa if he had done a different film whose production didn't last two years instead of Red Beard. Do you think that's the case?

Also, what do you think a movie with the three most popular actresses of Japan in the 50's (Kyo, Takamine and Hara) would have been about had someone decided to write a script for all three ladies?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I'll admit one of the most frustrating things I found about the Mifune doc (which was too surface, though Kagawa reading Kurosawa's eulogy for Mifune is quite special) was basically all interviewees just threw their hands up and said "we don't know exactly" regarding Mifune and Kurosawa's breakup. Maybe that's all they know and both men kept it close to the chest their whole lives, but regardless frustrating not to know. However judging by how long the rift lasted, I don't think it was just due to one long production, which even within the production there are different reasons cited for the rift. I think it was probably really multiple things brewing between them and maybe Red Beard was just a catalyst, so I think it might've been the end between them regardless of what film came at that time.

Well that sounds like a job for OZU! And I would assume perhaps a family drama about three sisters. Or at least two sisters and maybe a sister-in-law.

Mitchell Murray said...

Hey everyone! Wanted to say my final review for "My Adventures with Superman" has been posted to my animation blog.

Not sure what I'll cover next, but it will likely be another film of some sort. I also think going forward I may relegate series reviews to a few episode reviews at most, particularly for longer running fair. I could see specific episode reviews for a given series being a interesting exercise (Ex. Zuko Alone in "Avatar" or Double Date from "JLU").

Anonymous said...

Louis, is it possible for PSH to go further up in the 05 Lead ranking for Capote.

8000S said...

Louis: Since his crime thrillers had Kimura, Mori and Yamazaki, what do you think of either Mifune or Nakadai as the villain for that hypothetical Kurosawa crime thriller set in Hokkaido?

8000S said...

*Kimura, Mori and Yamazaki as the villains

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is it okay if you can give your top 5 Tom Wilkinson acting moments. I don't think you've given those before and I've tried looking for them if you had done.

Luke Higham said...

And thoughts on The Iron Claw trailer.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

It surely is a nice day for us wrestling fans.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Talk about your bets on Louis' Top 5 Best Director:
1. Alfred Hitchcock - Vertigo
2. Orson Welles - Touch of Evil
3. Akira Kurosawa - The Hidden Fortress
4. Andrzej Wajda - Ashes and Diamonds
5. Satyajit Ray - The Music Room

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on The Devil and Homer Simpson, Terror at 5 1/2 Feet, and Time & Punishment.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

No.

8000's:

Definitely Nakadai of the two, as rare was Mifune in a supporting role unless he had to be.

Luke:

As noted earlier, I'm done doing acting moments, at least for awhile.

The Iron Claw looks good, with the cast all looking like they have a lot of potential, and I would love for Efron to lead an actually good drama, as his work hasn't been the problem, and obviously will be interesting to see more of White and Dickinson. And Holt McCallany has been low key impressive in his last few films. The story itself has a great deal of potential and from the trailer it seems like it might be finding the mix between the joy of the family success with the tragedy of their father's oppressive approach. Having said that, greatly concerned by Durkin, who I think has twice over failed to live up to the premise of his films. Taking strong ideas and making mediocre films out of them, but hey hope this changes that trend.

Tony:

The Devil and Homer Simpson - (Just a lot of fun right off the bat by having Flanders be the devil, but then doing the whole legal process is great, I especially love everything Lionel Hutz does especially his emphasis on "unbreakable", and has a good resolution both in terms of how Homer gets out of it and what happens to Homer.)

Terror at 5 1/2 Feet - (Another great direct Twilight Zone parody, where it completely tells its story of the episode in five minutes, and funny. I especially love everything that Skinner does such as his reason for being on the bus "she was right to do it" and his "I heard someone was using their imagination and I've come to put a stop to it". But also great gags such as the AMC gremlin or Homer's airhorn and him casually driving by during the life and death struggle. My absolute favorite being Bart pulling the emergency window and the bus depressurizing, which is hilariously dumb in just the best way.)

Time & Punishment - (Another one without really a resolution and truly one less for any story and truly just for some quick bits, many of them being purely visual. Hence my reason for not being in my top ten, though I like it. The perfect donut rain bit, Willie's sad end particularly with the cameo behind him, and Homer's accidentally destruction of the dinosaurs are all great. Then the Flanders bit is again funny for being out of character, but a quick totalitarian thriller, particularly with Moe's and Marge's "sell" of the frontal lobotomy.)

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on Bart Simpson's Dracula, Attack of the 50-foot Eyesores, and Homer Cubed.

8000S said...

Louis: What do you think of Cagney and O'Brien for Costigan and Sullivan for a 30's The Departed and Costello and Queenan respectively for a 50's version?

Mitchell Murray said...

Almost 2 years late to the party on this one, but I finally watched 2021's "King Richard" tonight. Taking the film as the uplifting biopic it's meant to be, I think it works decently. It's a touch overlong, but the core intentions of it's story are presented well. My cynical side still believes it's an imcomplete portrayal of Richard and his life, but then again, there's enough that's good with the movie to say it's worthwhile.

Smith - 4 (After everything that came from this film, the awards and the oscar scandal...I can ultimately say it's a good performance. Wholly echo Louis' take on Smith playing to his strengths and doing a decent job with Richard's mannerisms, yet also missing out on a more complex portrayal)

Ellis - 4.5 (MVP, and a strong iteration of the "supportive wife" performance the oscars seem to love so much)

Bernthal - 4 (He's certainly known for his intensity, but based on how likable and engaging he is here, I think Bernthal would do well exploiting this side of his range)

Sidney/Singleton - 4 (Both very natural and effective)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: In your opinion, what was Wilkinson's best scene in In The Bedroom and your thoughts on it.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, do you have any plans to see Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour?

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Haven't commented on these guys in a while, but as a long time fan of the youtube series "Death Battle", anyone have thoughts on these fights? I'll just link the full episodes for simplicity, but I'll also include time stamps for the animation. Mostly I wanted to share this because for being such a long running show, the fact that DB is still putting out animations THIS impressive is very commendable.

Darth Vader Vs Obito Uchiha - 14:18 to 17:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQSCFftDIuA&ab_channel=DEATHBATTLE%21

Guts (Berserk) Vs Dimitri (Fire Emblem) - 14:55 to 18:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-Uqcuk1F0&ab_channel=DEATHBATTLE%21

Cole MacGrath (Infamous) Vs Alex Mercer (Prototype) - 12:57 to 16:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbNrAqmE8cM&ab_channel=DEATHBATTLE%21

Freiza Vs Megatron - 14:36 to 19:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2niQQ0BNWkA&t=1s&ab_channel=DEATHBATTLE%21

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: I watched the Dimitri one.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: You ever read a specific critic's negative take on a performance that felt our of left field? Like, not necessarily for a great performance being panned, but just one that you don't get why they hated it so much? Brought to you by Gene Siskel really roasting Ron Leibman in Norma Rae.

Anonymous said...

Louis:Your favorite single-episode performance by each of the main cast members of Cobra Kai

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What is your category placement for Shin Saburi in Equinox Flower.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Any voice roles you think Robin Williams would've been a good fit for?

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Bart Simpson's Dracula - (A real Non-ending, both in terms of the reveal of the head vampire and the random "Happy Halloween" followed by Peanuts Christmas. Never has been by favorite ending to an episode of prime Simpsons. I enjoy Burns firing Homer after melting, the dramatic recitation of "Pennsylvania" and Homer's neck rag. Plenty of good bits in there, but overall not amazing in terms of being satisfying on its own.)

Attack of the 50-foot Eyesores - (Another mainly visual gag one, though does effectively tell its story with a good ending in the killing jingle. But good gags with the giant monsters, and always loved the pitch black joke of Wiggum's murdering of the High School basketball captain because...he was turning into a monster.)

Homercubed - (I do like a few of the gags, Flanders having a ladder, "hold on egghead" and the Frink's theory of the "third dimension", but overall I think it is mostly a showcase for the tech, which is now forever dated without much being there beyond tech so I don't think it's a great one on its own.)

I have nothing against Ms. Swift, but don't have any plans to do so at this time.

Luke:

It's a close one between the fight with Spacek and the killing scene. I lean towards the latter just for how well he realizes can of an instinctual need to end his son's killer's life, reacting almost like he isn't even quite consciously doing it with the way he halfheartedly describes his reasoning as he was "trying to run", and Wilkinson's "I couldn't wait" is beautifully spoken because it isn't straight catharsis, rather it is heartbreaking resignation of the act as something he had to do.

Saburi is unquestionably the sole lead.

Robert:

I'm sure there have been but I can't think of any of the top of my head at the moment.

Anonymous:

William Zabka (Take a Right)
Ralph Macchio (Counterbalance)
Xolo Mariduena (Party Time)
Martin Kove (Ouroboros)
Yuji Okumoto (Miyagi-Do)
Thomas Ian Griffith (Head of the Snake)

Ytrewq:

Just the one's he played as I feel no one would cast him, and not sort of exploit his expected presence.

Anonymous said...

Louis, your thoughts on Capote's final encounter with Perry in the 2005 film.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on King Homer and Dial Z for Zombie?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Would you be interested in watching Steve Coogan's performance in The Reckoning. He really embodies the most perverted man in British History.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Tony Shalhoub as an actor, and have you ever seen any episodes of Monk?

Luke Higham said...

Michael Caine has officially retired.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Good for him he has done it all and been a gentleman to boot, I could imagine seeing Caine reviewed for his final film, since its getting solid reviews and it is also Glenda Jacksons final film.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, your thoughts on the trailer for The Curse? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tui5vl13Gqg

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey Louis and guys
Well, retirement confirmed, so it's only fair that we talk about our Top 10 of Michael Caine's best performances:

1. The Man Who Would Be King
2. Get Carter
3. Children of Men
4. Sleuth
5. Alfie
6. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
7. The Muppet Christmas Carol
8. Hannah and Her Sisters
9. Deathtrap
10. Little Voice

PS: Do you know what made me most sad about retirement? He and Steve Martin have not repeated their partnership.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

As someone who has watched it recently, I'm quite suprised that Caine in Little Voice seems to be within the 4.5 range for most people here (still not as baffling as Brenda Blethyn's Oscar nomination).

Luke Higham said...

Ytrewq: I personally love his final scene despite not having as much focus as I would like. The film on the whole belongs to Horrocks.

Despite his Globe win, do you think he's Supporting.

Anonymous said...

RIP Piper Laurie.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Piper Laurie

RatedRStar said...

I don't she ever gave a bad performance, I love her in Twin Peaks and really liked her in The Hustler and Carrie.

Some people might disagree, I actually did like her performance in Children of a Lesser God and thought that was a pleasant surprise Oscar nom.

Then again after Coda I think my love of Children of A Lesser God is even stronger.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Piper Laurie

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Piper Laurie

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Luke: Leaning towards Supporting, but I won't be upset if Louis will classify him as Lead.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RIP Piper Laurie

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I do like O'Brien overall, however Angels is a case of a dramatic leap of greatness in a performer who otherwise is typically just good, at least when compared overall to Cagney. So for me I think you'd have to pair Cagney with someone more so on his star-presence level. I do like them both for Costello and Queenan however, ideal fits there.

Anonymous:

When he tells him about the murders or when he's about to be executed?

Luke:

I mean sure.

Tahmeed:

Shalhoub is a performer I pretty much always like, and in his relatively limited film he always comes in for a quick bit and makes a big impact. In both Barton Fink and The Man Who Wasn't There, he has some a big presence it is hard to believe neither got him that much more film work overall. Although I tend to like it the least when he's just cast as "weird guy", which is also the first type of role I first saw him in (Wings), but even there he can go broad as well as anyone. I HAVE seen a few random episodes of Monk back in the early 2000's, and if I was more naturally drawn to weekly crime procedurals, I probably would've watched more, as the episodes I saw were enjoyable as crime procedurals go, in big part due to Shalhoub, who from those three or four episodes, got kind of play into his expected eccentricities, and effectively so, along with some more nuanced dramatic moments as well. Showing his ability to mix it up effectively. And he's never someone who I ever saw couldn't go small, because he usually goes big, rather it's just the roles he's in because there is nuance to even his big roles, as I love the real quiet desperation in his face when he says "come on Fink" in Barton Fink that grants humanity to a character who is indeed there mostly for laughs. And though he seems fairly well served on the small screen, I'd say on the whole he's pretty underserved as a performer in film, given he's always pretty good.

Tony:

King Homer - (Fun King Kong parody, as really just going through the beats with comedic alternatives, and I do love the attention to detail of recreating certain shots from the film, especially the extreme closeups to Homer Kong's face. But great bits, like wanting to go to Candy Apple Island, Mr. Burns knowing what Smithers "thinks", Smither's raise/instant death and Mr. Burns's "oh well", but especially love pointing out how boring the King Kong show would be on stage technically speaking, and Homer Kong being too out of shape to climb the Empire State building is perfection.)

Dial Z For Zombie - (Overall standard Zombie stuff plot wise, though I do love the bits, particularly Homer's lack of brains, Homer killing zombie Flanders "he was a zombie", all zombie radio, Barney just eating a random arm not as a zombie, and of course, Homer's badass lines as a zombie killer particularly "show's over Shakespeare" and zombie Shakespeare's lament. )

Well in regards to Curse, well cut trailer, though satire is always the highest of wire acts, and nothing do I love more when pulled off correctly or loathe more when fumbled. This likes it could be the former, and having a Safdie in it, and behind creatively intrigues more than a bit. And given I did end up liking Maniac, I probably should just watch Stone's foray into TV right off the bat this time.

Louis Morgan said...

RIP Piper Laurie

Anonymous said...

Louis, Both scenes.

Maciej said...

RIP Piper Laurie

Tim said...

R.I.P. Piper Laurie

Razor said...

RIP Piper Laurie.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

RIP Piper Laurie.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Now that The Fabelmans and West Side Story have settled in, your updated Steven Spielberg ranking?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I'll admit for me both scenes suffer a little bit in the face of the equivalent scenes from In Cold Blood, because those are about perfectly done so anything less seems a lot less to me. And I don't get me wrong it is still well acted, but I don't actually think the inclusion of Capote being in them makes them better.

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