Saturday, 15 April 2023

Alternate Best Actor 1961: Tatsuya Nakadai in The Human Condition III: A Soldier's Prayer

Tatsuya Nakadai did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Kaji in The Human Condition III: A Soldier's Prayer. 

A Soldier's Prayer is the final chapter in Masaki Kobayashi's outstanding trilogy about one man attempting to exist in the totalitarian society of Japan during World War II.

Each film of this incredible trilogy presents a different challenge to the notion of trying to remain decent, trying to keep one's humanity within a system, a country, a time, and a world where indecency and inhumanity rule. Tatsuya Nakadai's Kaji is the center of this terrible challenge that began in the first film as he attempted to humanely run a workcamp in China, a place where cruelty was the defining order, in the second film he attempted to be a "good" soldier in a horrible system where mistreating even their own recruits was a standing order, and in this final film, we open as Kaji is no longer within the confines of restraint of systematic cruelty, but rather in the fire of the chaos of a wartorn land. We open as Kaji a couple of other soldiers managed to survive the onslaught of the Soviet army and now are attempting to trek towards any kind of safety within what is believed to be Japanese-occupied China. And even in these earliest of scenes, the power of Nakadai's performance is relevant in giving one of the most accomplished transformations of a single performer through a series of films by showing us who Kaji is at the opening of this film compared to who he was at the opening of the trilogy.

His performance in the first film was that of the idealist despite everything that happened, and in the second film, there was more of the realist idealist, a man attempting to be good while dealing with the bad as honestly as he could. In the third film though so much of what he was is thrown out, while the brilliance of Nakadai's work is it feels so naturally honest to the experience of the character we had met at the start to who he is at the beginning of the end. Nakadai in fact is only 2 years older than when he starred in the first film but feels much older, and not due to his facial hair, but rather his expression that denotes the trauma of what he's gone through but more importantly what he is presently going through. This is a man who is no longer attempting to maintain this certain grace as the idealist living through this oppressive system, he is now a man trying to survive. Nakadai's performance internalizes this so powerfully early on in the film as the first act, to save himself and a few other soldiers, including the young Terada (Yusuke Kawazu) who looks up to him, is to kill a Russian soldier in order for them to get by. While formerly torn up in his murder, Nakadai now shows on the immediate surface the ability, really the function Kaji now has to kill, even if his eyes do denote still the pain deep within the man, mournful over what he has had to become. 

Nakadai gives what is truly a performance with the sense of survival as Kaji takes the lead among himself and a few other soldiers, despite not being the highest rank, as they attempt to find some kind of safety. And his performance is reflective of the condition of this state immediately. The sense of danger, the sense of death even is a constant in Nakadai's manner, he is someone who carries with him the caution within him, but also this striking persistence that seems a near constant within the man despite the severity of his situation. Nakadai accentuates every moment of this journey, along with Kobayashi's masterful direction, as the men try to push through. The sense of really an innate exhaustion is part of his performance and really just brilliantly performed in every regard as Nakadai simply is this. It is the state, although Kaji at this moment seems to be most able to survive, he is also very much within this situation at all times. He is being worn down, but he must persist. Nakadai's performance just so flawlessly realizes this specific dichotomy as he shows that Kaji is a man thriving, in as far as a man can thrive in such a wretched situation. The situation becomes all the more painful when the trio comes across a random group of Japanese civilians. 

This sequence, where the group is lost in a dense seemingly endless forest, is honestly one of the most harrowing put to film, as you see the group in such desperate straits that the civilians are just dropping like flies throughout the sequence in a way that is so matter of fact which makes it so painful. Nakadai throughout this scene shows how Kaji both has changed and stayed the same throughout this personal journey in the three films in his interactions with the civilians throughout. Because in part there is the blunt manner of a man who has to survive in this place, and when one group attempts to steal the parties food, Nakadai's intense dismissal against her pleas borders upon cruel, yet he delivers each word of thought as the truth of the situation, as a man who knows to allow such choices would lead to the death of all. Nakadai shows in some ways a distance in his eyes even when hearing about one of the deaths after another, his reactions are pitch perfect though because they aren't completely soulless, rather just adjusted to a difficult-to-penetrate shield of the man who must be callous in some ways to avoid dying, And there is still humanity in there, even if it is more intimate, more subtle than it is ever been, Nakadai still conveys it as within Kaji even if nearly dormant. A particularly affecting moment in this regard is when one of the women reminds him of his wife, and Nakadai's way of sort of drifting to the old Kaji in his expression is so heartbreaking because you see it but a momentary lapse into dreaming. 

Surviving the forest with few other than his soldiers, the men do appear to find some safety, albeit momentarily, however just as quickly find themselves right into the fire as the local Chinese have organized militias against Japanese soldiers, and still yet there are Japanese soldiers who firmly believe in their cause. Nakadai is amazing in these standoff scenes because he so naturally shows the growth of Kaji into a true leader as he faces off against one of the Japanese men, and throughout we see this different side of him which Nakadai flawlessly performs. That is in some ways Kaji is the leader of the people; Nakadai delivers this innate strength and conviction to every moment. His eyes become the man of action and Nakadai is wholly convincing in a way of portraying how these ordeals have at this moment strengthed Kaji as a man in some ways. There is a power to him as he manages to talk down to a pompous Japanese soldier and you see the man mixed with survival and idealism. The man who speaks his words as the truth, though now with a specific action to try to avoid the nonsensical continuation of the war and instead attempt to try to get home to his wife. There is a ferocity in Nakadai in these moments that creates a real sense of power even in a moment of seeming hopelessness. Hopelessness is persuasive as they quickly go right back into the fire facing off against the Chinese, who kill the last surviving peasant. Nakadai's great in showing in one moment the persistence in Kaji as he maneuvers around the war scape, bringing you into every moment of it through his moment, while also being devastating in his reaction to losing the woman he had some connection with. Nakadai in this instance shows the earliest Kaji in the pain in his reaction, but also where Kaji has gone in the violence in searing in his eyes as he considers revenge. 

And Nakadai's work is outstanding here in its ability to so reflexively interact with every situation, which manages to convey the heartbreak or horror of it, while often presenting the intensity and chaos. Nakadai never is lost, even if Kaji technically is, creating such a potent centerpiece that is this essential anchor to the film. Take a moment where Kaji, along with the other soldiers, escorts two refugees and Nakadai brings such a strict sincerity in his interactions with the young woman. His performance in the moment of respite brings again a beauty to humanity, albeit briefly however the gentleness is so powerful because you see this return to the man he was, and garners a real poignancy. Similar, though less poignant, is when he briefly talks politics with old friends as he questions a group of Japanese attempt to join the Americans in helping the non-communist Chinese forces, and for a moment you get a glimpse of the student, the socialist and pacifist in his pondering. Of course, such things are cut short when he learns that some of the escorting soldiers probably raped and maybe also murdered the young woman after he left. Nakadai's extraordinary because every time his performance shows you the pain in this unfortunate return back to the present horrors, and the intensity of his distaste is again the man hardened by war. Nakadai shows with so much power the outrage that conspires in Kaji as he goes about beating the man down. Nakadai in his performance alone creates the real tragedy of the story because within it is the human condition as we see that glimpse of the man perhaps finding hope again, only for it to be dashed again by the cruelty of the time and place that he exists in. 

This would maybe be enough for Nakadai to give a great performance, and he has, as we get to the end of seeming the journey as the man is the leader to the men as he goes to a refugee of Japanese women, and attempts to humanely figure out what to do next. Nakadai in this sequence brings a distinct stoic quality that defines the man by his determination to get home more than anything and maintain any decency he has left. Even as he frustrates others with his candor Nakadai exudes this with an honest conviction. There's a great moment where the Russians come calling and while Kaji is ready to battle, in his eyes it is the side of a man hardened by war, ready to kill, until one of the refugee women asks everyone to avoid violence, Nakadai's reaction is perfection in showing Kaji's conscience catching up with him and pulling back from that brink. Unfortunately, capture does not mean Kaji's troubles are over as he finds himself in the stay of the Soviets, who slide around in their compassion, meanwhile, Kaji tries to save the young Terada, which quickly gets him into hot water with the authorities, particularly because he isn't at all helped by the extremely corrupt Japanese "translator" who relays all his messages inaccurately often purposefully dishonestly. And while Nakadai's reaction initially is of the man still going along, still surviving, things only are exacerbated as he finds himself under the thumb again of the corrupt Japanese officers now used to police their own men though under Soviet watch, including the rapist that Kaji had beaten down earlier. 

We have a brilliant sequence for Nakadai as he attempts to negotiate and explain his actions, where he has been stealing minor things for survival, to the Soviets with the "help" of the bad translator. Nakadai's work in this scene is one of the greatest portrayals of frustration I've seen quite honestly as throughout the scene you see the man's passion for life, decency, and even politics waning away to his seemingly uncaring audience. His eyes slowly become more and more lost as it seems his words becoming meaningless, and his delivery goes from passionate, to frustrated to just becoming lost. His whole manner crumbled before the audience and just a man falling nearly into insanity, only getting a reprieve from a somewhat sympathetic Soviet officer who attempts to give him a lighter punishment. Unfortunately, the light punishment proves tragic as it takes him from being able to protect Terada. An important note to be their older/younger brother relationship throughout the film that is particularly striking in the prison scenes. Nakadai brings the last of Kaji's warmth and optimism as he encourages the younger man to survive and tries to help him see potential in the future. Terada though is essentially overworked and brutalized to death by the rapist, and with that, you have Kaji's breaking point. Nakadai now shows a man with conviction but without real hope in his eyes. His delivery is cold in a way that is disturbing as his intention to run from the camp to reunite with his wife no longer seems practical, rather it seems fatalistic. Before he attempts his escape though he first kills the rapist, and while it couldn't have happened to a worse person, Nakadai's performance though doesn't sell it as something easy to reckon with. Rather he delivers this fierce hatred of everything he's been outraging against, the humanity of the man nearly gone as he rages against the man for his lack of humanity. Nakadai is terrifying by showing any warmth left from Kaji as he cuts the man down, destroying him without mercy or pity. This leaves Kaji final march to attempt to get home and to describe Nakadai's work as stellar in this sequence seems an understatement. Nakadai is astonishing every step of the way, and in what is essentially a silent performance, other than his narration which is the repetition of this belief that he can get home. Nakadai's face becomes this state of ever-growing madness in his eyes and his manner as he slowly decays before us. In every frame, Nakadai loses some sense of self and some greater exhaustion. His performance shows in nearly real-time the decay of the man both in mind and body and it is an unforgettable sight as he loses himself. Nakadai is unbelievable as he brings us to the point of mutual breaking that couldn't be more heartbreaking, as his eyes seem to find this state of jubilation as he believes himself to be back home, while his whole physique is that of a dying man. His final moment of falling into his snowy grave is one of the most poignantly depicted losses of life ever onscreen. An extraordinary end to an already extraordinary performance, because Nakadai here he does show us the journey of this man, but potentially any man, attempting to be the best of humanity, while falling to the worst of it by the end. 

184 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.

Marcus said...

This review was well worth the wait.

Louis: Is this your favorite Nakadai performance?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

This trilogy is probably my biggest cinematic blindspot, so I'll definitely get around to it ASAP.

Also, just skimming over this review, I feel Nakadai's definitely taking the year.

Matt Mustin said...

Shit, he might take this year from Mifune.

Perfectionist said...

If I am not wrong, he has 9 5s now, right?? That's insane considering that he hasn't gotten a win here yet. I still think Mifune is probably gonna retain.

Shaggy Rogers said...

My hope is that Nakadai wins the overall in which he should have been second, for me he is still the #1 lead 1980.
When Louis does the 2017 review I look forward to Nakadai's review of Lear on the Shore. The film is weak, but his performance avoids disaster.

Perfectionist said...

Also, it's insane he came so close to a win so many times lol. He is a win for me for Yojimbo/1961 supporting personally at the very least.

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: 8 5s. He's a 4.5 for both Human Condition II and Kill!.

Anonymous said...

Louis, your updated top 20 Tatsuya Nakadai acting moments?

Perfectionist said...

Luke: Oh, ok. I thought he was a 5 for former. I checked it again. Also who do you think from current working actors, can take over Mifune's record of 11??

Luke Higham said...

Well, Jessie Buckley will most likely take the overall record but if we're basing it solely on films, Joaquin Phoenix is probably in the best position to pull ahead of his contemporaries with You Were Never Really Here and the potential 1-2 of Beau Is Afraid and Napoleon.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

If Day-Lewis unretires again, I'm pretty sure he could do it.

Calvin Law said...

Oh yeah, he's taking it. What a brilliant performance in a brilliant film - love this write-up.

Emi Grant said...

Lol, I did know that Nakadai had been shy of a win a couple of times, but I didn't realize just how many.

I'm adding the trilogy to my ever-growing list of "Why tf have I not watched this yet?".

Louis: What would be your top 10 (or top 5) leading performances across story-driven trilogies?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Are you gonna re-watch Divorce Italian Style before the results.

Anonymous said...

Louis, is it possible for Kill! to get a backlog review.

Marcus said...

Louis: Your top 5 film trilogies, and top 10 movie deaths?

Luke Higham said...

I assume Rita Moreno has gone up to a five for West Side Story.

Perfectionist said...

Hopefully, Newman ranks above Whitman in the 1961 lineup.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Kishida/Nakamura/Takamine -4 (All three give very moving and impactful performances as the three different women that Kaji makes some kind of connection on the journey. Kishida is heartbreaking by presenting this amount of life in her work mixed in with this dogged conviction of someone with a clear intention to keep on surviving. She has this certain verve in her work that is wonderfully specific and makes her abrupt exit particularly heartbreaking just because of how much life there is to her work. Nakamura contrasts that present a wonderfully and bluntly sincere portrayal of the seeming naivety of someone not fully damaged by the situation. She brings the simple beauty of that powerfully within her work. Takamine is obviously someone you see in more substantial roles however she doesn't at all waste the role she has here in immediately making an impact by presenting not a hint of naivety and instead bringing this sort of blunt reality into her work. She presents herself with not quite cynicism but rather a weaponized sense of reality, until her breaking point which presents the sense of someone who wants to try to avoid any more suffering.)

Kawazu - 4(Brings the right sort of endearing qualities to just the supportive younger brother with this glint of the hopeful manner in his reactions and interactions with Kaji at every turn. He creates the sense of the youngest man looking for protection and creating the sense of the man who thinks he will find some path by following essentially who becomes his hero.)

Naito 3.5(Just horribly despicable in the right way in presenting this sort of comfortability with the system of cruelty and showing it to be something he is at ease with that is especially disconcerting.)

Though really everyone is pretty good here, even if for a moment, which is the case for Chishû Ryû's brief bit.

Marcus:

I'll have to think about that.

Anonymous:

Not impossible.

Emi Grant:

Sigourney Weaver - Alien
Tatsuya Nakadai - The Human Condition
Al Pacino - The Godfather
Harrison Ford - Indiana Jones
Toshiro Mifune - The Samurai Trilogy

Marcus:

Hmm...I kind of think it would be parsed to types of deaths, as there are so many ways to go with movie deaths.

Actual three connected films, not thematic trilogies.

1. LOTR
2. The Human Condition
3. Alien
4. The Godfather
5. Toy Story

Marcus said...

Louis: What would be the ten most heartbreaking movie deaths then?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: for a contemporary take on The Human Condition, Hidetoshi Nishijima as Kaji?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Great Succession in really bringing the fall-out of last week's episode and all that it entails. Loved all the various perspectives and every interaction, and excited to see where they go from here. Strong MVP, but Snook would be a very close second.

Matt Mustin said...

Rewatched Superman for the first time in many many years, probably since childhood, and I totally forget how little screen time Glenn Ford has in it.

Reeve-4.5
Hackman-5
Kidder-4
Brando-3
Beatty-3.5
Perrine-3.5
Cooper-3.5
Ford-4
The elders-2.5
McClure-2.5
York-3

Bryan L. said...

Great season premiere for Barry, plus the second episode. Hader MVP for the first, and…I think everyone’s on an even keel for me in the second, but if I had to pick, Corrigan.

Also, solid all-around night for Stephen Root.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Loved both Barry episodes as well, Goldberg MVP for me in both episodes, although everyone was fantastic.

Calvin Law said...

That was a spectacular fallout/set-up Succession episode, loved having everyone within one setting for some truly ruthless swift developments. Strong is as good as he's ever been (which is saying something) but really, everyone on top form down to the smallest players. In particular excited to see the inner circle continue to be unleashed and those whose backs are pushed against the walls, to see how they will react.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: How do you think Jim Carrey would've fared as these characters?

-Lou Bloom
-C.C."Bud" Baxter
-Otto West
-Dean (Blue Valentine)
-Charlie Chaplin (was considered to play him in 1992 movie)

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: say The Big Country cast in the 2020s and Steven Spielberg as director.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys
Talk about your bets on:

Louis' Top 5 Best Supporting Actress
1. Pamela Franklin - The Innocents
2. Judy Garland - Judgment at Nuremberg
3. Emmanuelle Riva - Léon Morin, Priest
4. Piper Laurie - The Hustler
5. Rita Moreno - West Side Story

Louis' Top 5 Best Lead Actress
1. Deborah Kerr - The Innocents
2. Rita Tushingham - A Taste of Honey
3. Harriet Andersson - Through a Glass Darkly
4. Natalie Wood - Splendor in the Grass
5. Anouk Aimée - Lola

Louis' Top 5 Best Director
1. Akira Kurosawa - Yojimbo
2. Jack Clayton - The Innocents
3. Masaki Kobayashi - The Human Condition Part III: A Soldier’s Prayer
4. Robert Rossen - The Hustler
5. Pietro Germi - Divorce, Italian Style

Shaggy Rogers said...

And tell me what the Top 10 of Louis' 1961 lead actor will be like. My prediction:

1. Nakadai
2. Mifune
3. Newman
4. Whitman
5. Mastroianni
6. Cagney
7. Cushing
8. Sordi
9. Bogarde
10. Gable

8000S said...

He was perfect, simply perfect.

Calvin Law said...

New season of Barry is...going to take some getting used to but I think I largely liked it? All the Sally (Sarah Goldberg easy MVP) stuff is fantastic, and the prison stuff very striking too. Less crazy about the Hank/Cristobal and Gene stuff so far but I guess we'll see.

Louis Morgan said...

I really liked Barry, but it is truly a strange Lynchian nightmare at this point, and because of that even the more overtly humorous elements feel seeded with this intense darkness. Goldberg MVP in both episodes.

Succession was masterful in every regard. Hilarious, moving and just effortlessly compelling. Comedic highlight was probably Greg trying to "interpret" his name on Logan's will. Everything involving the power plays and the sibling dynamics was stellar. I especially loved though the non-family players showing different shades with the new situation, I loved the switch in Hugo and Karolina when they became at the boys service. And special mention to David Rasche's performance, which I loved just how nefarious he played Karl once Karl no longer had a man to say yes to.

Marcus:

Tears in Rain - Blade Runner
Prayer in snow - The Human Condition
Suicide - Sansho the Baliff
The Captain - The Good The Bad and the Ugly (HM wounded soldier)
Bus Ride - Midnight Cowboy
Forget it Jake - Chinatown
Setsuko - Grave of the Fireflies
Final Run - Gallipoli
Please - The Fly
Crucifixions in the sea - Silence

Only counting actual death scenes, not death adjacent or remembrance moments.

Calvin:

For the 00's most definitely, would need someone a little bit younger now.

Ytrewq:

Bloom I think would be a hard sell just because he'd need to be extraordinary just to overcome expectation, as there is a reason that serious Carrey is typically more subdued when successful, it would be hard to see him be overt and not think something like The Cable Guy unfortunately. Maybe he could do it, but definitely hard to say for sure.

Easy yes on Baxter, perfect for the blend of comedy with earnestness needed for that role.

Maybe leaning yes on Otto, I think he'd be a bit less dangerous and in that strange way intimidating but certainly could bring the manic insanity needed.

Interesting choice for Dean, though based on his moodier work I could see it.

I think he'd be far less physically fitting to Chaplin than Downey was, but I do think he would've gone for it, and been successful with the recreations at the very least.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: What about Carrey as Orin Scrivillo DDS?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Very easy yes on that, I'd say he'd thrive with that one.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I’ve been listening to/watching the various versions of Little Shop over the last month, and I’ve been running various what-if castings. How does this hypothetical remake cast sound?

Seymour: Mike Faist
Audrey: Lady Gaga
Orin: Jake Gyllenhaal (ironically played Seymour in 2015)
Mushnik: Alfred Molina
Audrey II: James Monroe Iglehart

Also, I think they should keep to stage tradition and have the actor playing Orin play most of the other minor roles.

Louis Morgan said...

Shaggy:

James McKay: Adam Driver
Julie Maragon: Carey Mulligan
Patricia Terrill: Amanda Seyfried
Steve Leach: Henry Cavill
Rufus Hannassey: Russell Crowe
Major Terrill: Kurt Russell
Buck Hannassey: James Badge Dale

Robert:

Really interested to see what more Faist can do in general, and I think he'd make for a most intriguing Seymour. Gaga honestly just sounds perfect in every regard for Audrey. Obviously somewhat skeptical on Gyllenhaal at this point, however with the right director he definitely has the talent in there, and doing the other roles could make it particularly interesting. Molina is perfect. Not familiar enough with Iglehart to say.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Iglehart is a Broadway actor who won a Tony for playing the Genie in Aladdin. Great baritone. Part of the reason I chose him was the realization I hit that “Friend Like Me” is like a less Faustian “Feed Me (Git It)”.

The alternate I had for Orin was actually Austin Butler, mostly because I want to hear someone who actually sounds like Elvis sing “Dentist!”

Calvin Law said...

If you all want more Faist, you can't go wrong with the Pinball film! He's very charming in it.

Tony Kim said...

A good pair of Barry episodes, but not great. I don't have any major problems yet, but I'm having trouble pinpointing what exactly is preventing it from leaving a deeper impression. A surprising amount of scenes seemed more focused on just moving the plot along rather than being either particularly funny or dramatic, and while that's expected for the "table-setting" episodes of a season, executing mundane scenes in a memorable fashion was something they did more successfully in past seasons.

Everyone was good though I'll single out Sarah Goldberg.

Louis: Retooling my previous question about predicting who will become stars, are there any actors who have broken out in the past few years you feel aren't being cast in roles that play to their talents?

Also, what do you think of this modern cast for Paths of Glory?

Mads Mikkelsen as Dax
Ben Mendelsohn as Mireau
Brian Cox as Broulard
Barry Keoghan as Ferol

Calvin Law said...

Oh man, Mikkelsen as Dax is impeccable casting.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your 2020s cast for an On the Waterfront using the age appropriate actors for characters.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Armand Thirard's work in The Murderer Lives at Number 21 and Quai des Orfèvres.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: I swore you'd quote Brendan Gleeson as Rufus Hannassey.

Mitchell Murray said...

Speaking of Gleeson, actually, I've been pooling over some scenes from the "Harry Potter" franchise lately (sort of want to revisit the films, particularly Azkaban, Order of the Phoenix and Half Blood Prince).

What are your thoughts on Moody's main introduction/3 curses scene from "Goblet of Fire"? The sequence itself is silly because...hello...you just casted three spells that you yourself said would get you arrested. For Gleeson's part, though, he's clearly having fun and I think has some leeway in that he isn't playing the true Moody. Even now, his performance mostly works for me and is an amusing highlight of the film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htMZ3Vmc8w&ab_channel=HarryPotter

Tim said...

Mitchell: maybe it depends on the country, but as long as nobody is physically harmed, you are allowed to do or say some things in an educational context that otherwise might be illegal in some places. My fouth grade teacher once demonstrated the nazi salute

Mitchell Murray said...

Tim: Depends on the audience and age range, as well. I noticed my teachers in high school were far more lax and bluntly spoken than in elementary, where the gap between experience and communication is more pronounced. My teachers in college were even more chill in that regard.

Although can I just say, your example DEFINITELY wouldn't fly today, at least not in Canada's educational system. If I was that teacher, I think a picture would get the message across.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tim: Also, not to start us down a path or anything, but I was first taught about the Holocaust/Third Reich in grade 6. The development and ability to understand things between that age (11-13 roughly) and grade 4 (9-11 roughly) is pretty substantial, so I was surprised to hear you say that.

Tim said...

that wasn't in that context really. In that age, we were only very vaguely told about everything regarding WW2. We were just talking a little bit about it and it was supposed to demonstrate the general greeting back then. We also were not taught the Holocaust until 8th grade

Marcus said...

Mitchell: I think the in-universe explanation is that Moody was an Auror, and they were allowed to use the Unforgivable Curses in certain situations. He also didn't harm any other students in that lesson, so it was technically fine.

Perfectionist said...

Louis: Is there EVER a chance you revisit True Grit (2010)??? I think it's easily amongst Coens' best films and one of the best of that year in general. Bridges, in fact, has become my best actor win for 2010. I think he has the potential to go Roy Scheider in All That Jazz or Robert Forster in Jackie Brown route for you if you haven't watched it in some time. From a kinda low rating to a 4.5 or 5 straight up.

Anonymous said...

Perfectionist: Bridges's 3.5 is after Louis already revisited that film. He was a 2 or 2.5 before.

Perfectionist said...

Anonymous: Well, damn it then 🤣🤣.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I would be intrigued by Butler there, just as I am to potentially see Elvis Feyd-Rautha.

Tony:

Seems like with Causeway Jennifer Lawrence is finally going back towards her strengths as a more naturalistic performer, though she was one for the longest time. Brie Larson though I would say has taken her spot, as more Independent lower key work seems to be where her talents exist, as her more blockbuster-oriented work has felt far more stilted. Simon Pegg is someone, who maybe just isn't getting the opportunities, but is far more talented than the fairly standard/safe, albeit typically good, performances he's been giving. Then there are some actors who just stopped consistently giving good performances (Oscar Isaac, Tye Sheridan) or just keep being in bad films like Hardy/Fassbender recently. Although I'd say that it's a different thing.

To concur with Calvin, Mikkelsen is ideal for Dax. Cox might be a touch too old for the part, but he's certainly playing it well. Mendelsohn's been going back and forth with the heel roles (sometimes he's more interesting than others) so it could work. Keoghan of course is an easy buy.

8000's:

Murderer is in part a warmup to his later work as it isn't *as* dynamic as some of his later efforts, particularly Diabolique. Nonetheless, the overall work has a nice low-key moody quality in the lighting, with some great dynamic shots particularly those where it accentuates a single figure in the frame or manages to contain multiple figures in a dynamic fashion, particularly in the climactic sequence.

Quai is striking prestige work that is just excellent in terms of the dynamic of certain shots, particularly how he captures Inspector Antoine in contrast to the other in a given shot. And again Murderer has this innately moody work in the lighting that provides such fantastic low-key (for noirs anyways) contrasts in the lighting between what is given glows and who is hidden in shadows. Beautiful work.

Shaggy:

I obviously like Gleeson but I think Crowe is the best fit for the part's intensity, plus he basically looks like Burl Ives currently.

Mitchell:

Goblet has some odd choices throughout, but Gleeson was a great choice for Moody, and that is a scene that works rather well by making Moody seem fun to the kids yet dangerous, while also getting some blunt exposition out in an entertaining way. I would say any logical issue there can also be solved since Moody is in fact a psychopath pretending to be Moody.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene from Spawn: The Animated Series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0KJv8QbodM

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on the guest spots of Anthony LaPaglia, Laura Linney,Brian Cox, Wendie Malick,Saul Rubinek,Brian Cox and Felicity Huffman on Frasier if you've seen them?

Tony Kim said...

Calvin and Louis - Thanks for the feedback.

Louis, how would you rank these guys from most to least talented?: Adam McKay, Jason Reitman, David O. Russell, Alexander Payne.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tony: For my money, Reitman has directed the best movie among the four (Tully) and also the worst (Men, Women, and Children). So… dealer’s choice?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I'll admit I was a bit thrown off by the tone and language while having very much the 90's style animation. Keith David's voicework though there is pretty amazing on its own, though I guess I was slightly lost in the overall scene.

Anonymous:

LaPaglia - (Wasn't really crazy about his performance at all. Found his accent more annoying than funny, really found the character largely hard to take for much time at all. And I think one of the flaws of the show in the later seasons was not seeing the overuse of a joke, and Simons was used far too many times. It's basically a one-note performance, and a one-note that I did not care for.)

Linney - (As the "final girl" not in a slasher way, I thought she was entirely fine, but just that. I don't think she had extraordinary chemistry with Grammar or anything, though she was entirely just fine once again. Just essentially slightly emotional but mostly just designed to be pleasant, which she was that I guess.)

Cox - (Now he I did enjoy quite a bit, and LaPaglia stole that Emmy from him wholesale. Cox I thought was funny in the moments of loutishness and just owning with his delivery of "I can have you" every single time. Cox again proves his great range of style of performance because he's as convincing in being just kind of a lovable oafish type as he a cutthroat. He also does have a genuine moment of warmth that is well performed where Cox manages to get the warmth out without seeming too far from the character's overall rather hapless demeanor.)

Malick - (I thought she was more than fine though I really think they should've just brought Marsha Mason back because she did essentially a variation of her character, I felt she had less overall chemistry with Mahony in comparison, though she did *have* chemistry with Mahoney. However, her dynamic with the boys and so on was very similar again and again fine, but showed a bit of how the show was turning its wheels in many respects.)

Rubinek - (Wholly great work honestly in bringing just a slick sleaze to the character, however, I think he balanced it well in that he didn't make Donny completely evil or hateable, just a bit rough around the edges, and owning his character's lawyer sort of demeanor with the right innate confidence. And later on though interestingly became most comical when becoming more antagonistic and while brief, enjoyed his sort of vengeful and demented moments in his later appearances.)

Huffman - (I HATED her whole storyline though I thought she was okay with some of the tired material she got as the constant cynic that wasn't used particularly well and was put in some places that didn't work. Again don't think it was her fault but hardly ever worked for me.)

Tony:

One of the toughest rankings I've ever been asked to make, and unfortunately I'm at kind of a loss. Every time I come up with something to separate them, I'm reminded of something else that puts them right together again.

Emi Grant said...

Louis: If you were to get 3 million dollars, but only on the condition that one of the aforementioned directors will get the double of that for their next film, which one would you choose?

Louis Morgan said...

Emi Grant:

Well I guess I could deal with Reitman, as he has made a good film somewhat recently in Tully (though Robert is correct he also holds the nadir in that group). Besides that's chump change when O. Russell somehow got an 80 million budget for Amsterdam.

Calvin Law said...

Beau is Afraid...won't be for everyone, but I quite dug it myself.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Downfall scene where Jodl, Burgdorf, Keitel and Fegelein discuss Hitler's plan to attack the Soviets.

8000S said...

Louis: Also, would you say Mitchum's performance in Out of the Past is more or less a taste of what his performance as a younger Phillip Marlowe would have been like?

Tim said...

I saw some Woody Allen movies i didn't yet know recently. Both are generally considered lesser Allen, but i actually had fun with both


You Will Meet A Tall Dark Stranger doesn't cover any new ground and kind of loses focus on Anthony Hopkins once in a while, but is just overall a fun, comfortable vibe with some really fun characters


Jones - 3-5
Pinto - 2.5
consistend 3s for the rest


Scoop is not really great, but overall overhated. I don't buy Scarlett Johansson in the lead role and Roger Ebert is right about some bad jokes, but there also are several really good ones, the plot cleverly doesn't go the obvious route one would expect from the premise and the characters do have some really fun chemistry most of the time. This would be an interesting double feature with Match Point i believe (though you would end up totally hating Johansson as an actress afterwards ...)


Allen - 3.5
Johansson - 2
Jackman - 4
McShane - 3
Dance - 2.5


RatedRStar said...

Are my eyes deceiving me or did I really just see that The Snowman was number 1 on Netflix recently????

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I couldn't believe it when I saw it yesterday.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I've discovered that Trust with Clive Owen is a 2011 release.

Anonymous said...

Luke, what are your suggestions for 1961 Supporting.

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the cast of Beau Is Afraid?

Calvin Law said...

Matthew:

Phoenix - 4.5
LuPone - 4/4.5
Ryan - 3.5
Lane - 3.5
Rogers - 3
Menochet - 3
Posey - 3
Henderson - 3.5
Kind - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Aside from the requests, Martin Stephens in The Innocents. I'm sure Louis can find 2 to fill in the rest.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I have heard some good things about Leo McKern in The Day The Earth Caught Fire but apart from that and the requests I have nothing.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Kobayashi's direction of The Human Condition?

Marcus said...

Louis: An anonymous user asked this earlier, but what is your top 20 Tatsuya Nakadai acting moments? Your top 10 was previously:

1. Ryunosuke faces his demons - The Sword of Doom
2. Hanshiro finishes his story - Harakiri
3. The Siege of the Third Castle - Ran
4. Ryunosuke sees the true mater of the sword - The Sword of Doom
5. The Duel - Yojimbo
6. Hanshiro reveals his connection to the previous samurai - Harakiri
7. The Opening - Kagemusha
8. The final breakdown - Ran
9. The Executions - The Human Condition I
10. Ryunosuke kills a legion of men - The Sword of Doom

Luke Higham said...

Very happy that Schell went up.

Anonymous said...

Your top 10 message films?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis (and everyone else): Your favorite depictions of the creative process on film? I'm always a mark for successful depictions of it, especially when it also shows the cost involved.

Tim said...

Tahmeed: Does the entirety of Saving Mr Banks count?

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

I'm going to save that for the results.

Tahmeed:

Amadeus (writing the requiem the greatest depiction of its ilk)
Barton Fink (More so getting swallowed by it).
Love & Mercy
Day For Night
Synecdoche New York

Emi Grant said...

Tahmeed: Adaptation is PAINFULLY accurate when it comes to writer's block.

I also love the detail of Kaufman looking on an actual map for the street he's gonna write into the screenplay, since I'll often find myself pausing for hours on end to do things like that.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: so it appears that Lee Byung-hun turned down roles in Parasite, Oldboy and Decision to Leave. Could you have seen him in any of those films?

I think he would probably be great as the rich father in Parasite and in Yoo Ji-tae's role in Oldboy. But for Decision to Leave where I'd presume he was offered the lead role, I think Park Hae-il was really perfect casting, and while I think Lee could've done a great job I think he wouldn't have quite the same 'everyman' quality.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

I mean I think he would've been great in all of them. In Parasite, indeed easy to see him as the rich father, and I think Lee Sun-kyun is terrific there, and kind of underrated in the grand scheme of that film. I think Lee Byung-hun would've offered a bit more of an intimidation factor, which could've been interesting, but not necessarily better than what we got.

Agree he probably was up for Yoo Ji-tae's role and Lee would've been slightly closer to age appropriate (not that I've ever had a problem with Yoo's youth). And really that role is really primo Lee if you think about it, as he would've been a more contained note for much of the film, until one big devastating emotional scene. And honestly I'd envision Lee's performance to be fairly similar to Yoo's.

Decision to Leave he had to be Detective Jang, it is the only role that makes sense, unless they wanted for a cameo as the chief or something. This one I think would've most changed the film and not for better or worse, just different because Lee's presence is so defined. He would be less a working detective and more so a true "hero" detective, and it really would've changed a lot of scenes in terms of the overall dynamic. One really obvious one would've been with the gangster because you get a bit of an underdog quality in Park in that fight, whereas with Lee I think you'd expect him to dominate, but really a lot of scenes there'd be a different element at play of maybe two sort of larger than life people coming together, rather a more "average" kind of guy in some ways being pulled in by the one of a kind woman. Again not necessarily better or worse, but certainly would've been different.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The fact that Lee turned down all those films but chose to appear in Squid Game is certainly one of the choices of all time. Think he would have been especially brilliant in Decision to Leave (in a very different way than Park), although a few things about Jang would have *probably* hit too close to home.

Anonymous said...

Louis: how would you rank all the Kobayashi films you have seen.

Tony Kim said...

Tahmeed: Tar.

Louis: Seeing as how you mentioned him earlier, why do you think Pegg has struggled to get more opportunities to display his talents?

Rachel McAdams has said she turned down roles in Devil Wears Prada, Iron Man, and Casino Royale. How do you think she would've fared in those films? She may have been slightly better than Hathaway IMO and definitely better than Paltrow, but I'm glad she ultimately said no to both considering they were largely reactive/passive roles. She definitely would've been miscast as Vesper, though.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

To be fair, I imagine he didn't play the Front Man with the mask on, so he was probably on set for like two days. Unless he did, then that is truly baffling.

Although I do ponder what the working relationship between him and Park was like on JSA, given they haven't worked together again.

Anonymous:

1. Harakiri
2. The Human Condition III
3. The Human Condition I
4. Samurai Rebellion
5. The Human Condition II
6. Kwaidan
7. Black River

Tony:

I think most just seem him as a comic relief actor, as the only person who really ever pushed him was his long term collaborator in Edgar Wright who clearly sees more in him, even if their films together are comedies. In turn while that got him more jobs, it seems like most took the non-comedic aspects of Pegg's work for granted and ignored what he was doing dramatically particularly in Shaun and The World's End. Side Note: Slightly hypocritically, I do think we all (and Wright) would benefit if Wright just watched Sullivan's Travels already and got back to making comedies.

I wouldn't call Vesper *too* passive. Although that is the one I'm most glad she didn't get. I don't think she would've been nearly as convincing as Green who has more of a innate edge to her, in the early scenes, and she may or may not have had the chemistry with Craig. I do think she would've been better than Hathaway, and would've been on more even of ground with Blunt in their scenes together. With Iron Man, Potts isn't a great role regardless, and I think it is better they went with the slightly older Paltrow there. I also wouldn't say she would've been necessarily better as I think both are better when given the chance to be a bit more off-beat, which isn't the case for that part.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: I should clarify that I wasn't including Vesper among those passive roles, but I otherwise agree with your points.

Regarding the aforementioned Four Horsemen, which director do you think has had the deepest drop in quality over the years?

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

O. Russell, while I don't love any of his early films, I do think some of them are good and there is a clear downward slope with him. Followed by McKay who went to dramas and became intolerable. Reitman's run was most dire in the middle of his career so far, as Tully was good and both films that followed it, Ghostbusters and The Front Runner, I wouldn't deem as terrible just kind of "okay to eh". And with Payne it is always the same tendencies, it just is how much of those tendencies are found in a given project, I don't think he's ever made a film where they are completely absent.

8000S said...

Louis: Forgot to give your thoughts on the Downfall scene where Jodl, Keitel, Fegelein and Burgdorf discuss Hitler's plan to attack the Soviets.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Although an adaptation of Blood Meridian is and will likely remain just a pipe dream, what do you think of these casting choices for the role of Judge Holden?

-Marlon Brando
-Philip Seymour Hoffman
-Dave Bautista
-Clancy Brown
-Russell Crowe
-Vincent D'Onofrio
-Glenn Fleshler

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: ratings for the casts of The Guns of Navarone, Judgment at Nuremberg and The End of Summer?

Tony Kim said...

Louis (and anyone else): What are some 2010s films that were acclaimed at the time that you feel have been unfairly forgotten?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

It is a scene that illustrates essentially how all stuck into being forced to just go along with Hitler's failing ability despite being able to recognize it, and the tension both internalized and externalized from their catch-22.

Ytrewq:

I haven't read Blood Meridian.

Shaggy:

I don't give thoughts on any films from the given year until the results other than the one I'm reviewing.

Tony:

Boy and Win Win.

8000S said...

Louis: I decided to rewatch Chinatown in honor of good ol' Jack Nicholson.

Not gonna lie, the ending always gets me. Easily one of the most depressing endings ever in a movie, where the bad guy gets away with it.

If you excluded any portrayal of Hitler, would Noah Cross be on your top 10 most despicable villains list?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on Connor's non-eulogy for Lester, and his insistence that he is the "eldest son" from Succession season 2 and 3? Really hoping Ruck gets recognized this time around by the Emmys.

Michael McCarthy said...

I saw Beau is Afraid last night and I actually found most of it quite compelling. I think Aster is starting to find a tone that works better for his directorial flourishes.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, I must've been in some kind of trance tonight, because I finally got around to watching 2022's "Blonde"...and man, was it the most infuriating film viewing I've had in a while.

The movie would run in this viscous cycle of showing very distressing scenes of Monroe's life. I would intially applaud the boldness of addressing these aspects of her legacy, as we should know about them. We should be made aware of how much Monroe suffered in her successful but tragic career. The film would then keep on these shots for a touch too long, or be a touch to repetive in the exact beats. It would further detract from their power with a strange mismatching of colour and black-and-white footage (the purpose of which I truly can't deduce), and some extremely abrupt editing choices. I would question if Dominik needed a second voice to temper his indugences, or if these scenes were required for the film's thesis at all. It would go from audacious to explotative, and I would go from annoyed to pissed off. And then I would check the time stamp and realize only 15 minutes had passed...

If the intention of the movie was to make us feel uncomfortable, then it did it's job in spades. That's probably why it was so divisive with audiences; The cultural perception of Monroe is one of glamour and attraction, so to see such a depressing and raw take on her life is appropriately jarring. I don't believe the way the film handled it, though, was what I'd call "tasteful". In fact, I believe the humanity it was likely trying to convey in Monroe, by peeling back the media's superficial image of her, was stripped further by having her be such a passive, beaten down centerpoint. The film ultimately says nothing about Monroe that I didn't know/couldn't find with my own research. I didn't need some of these NC-17 scenes to understand and empathize with Monroe's traumas. I didn't need her to say "daddy" 17 times, or an internal look at the abortion process, to understand she had some major parental/motherhood issues.

And what makes me truly livid - and I'm still livid writing this - is that the film ultimately falls into the very trap it tries to avoid. The intention, I think, was to again show Monroe as a human figure, beyond the sexual objectification she recieved by so many. The execution of that intent objectifies her all the same. She is often times depicted as a meek emotional mess, tossed around from abuser to abuser, drifting into her later addictions with no real sense that she's fighting against them. This interpretation of Monroe is mostly without the grace and charm of her real life counterpart, which was itself a bit of an act, but an act that was personally utilized by Monroe. She still had agency, even while her life was very tramautic, and to deny her much of that is very unfourtunate. I felt angered and disgusted watching this film - and that may be the legitimate point - but it definitely crossed a line for me.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Given that I can't even watch a Malcolm in the Middle rerun without feeling triggered by Lois, Beau is Afraid sounds like it was designed to literally kill me.

I'll see it tomorrow.

Mitchell Murray said...

As for de Armas...god, that must have been an exhausting shoot for her. I could gripe about her accent work not being fully there, but that's a nitpick. It's technically a very good performance, and much of her acting rings true even with the very repetitive and overwrought writing. I applaud the effort on her part, even though the film's tone and weaknesses prevented me from being emotionally attached to her portrayal.

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: Oh it is VERY anxiety inducing, trust me.

Anonymous said...

Michael: Your ratings for the cast??

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on/rating for Zethphan Smith-Gneist in Tar?

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

If I was doing a list of fictional characters, yes he would make the list.

Tahmeed:

His neutral coverall eulogy is one of the most hilarious moments from the series and is just pitch perfect in its writing but also Ruck's delivery that sells its meaningless so perfectly, particularly his little "try to do something with that" to the journalist afterwards.

Ruck's performance is kind of perfect in he manages to be hilarious while also being genuinely emotional in showing a guy struggling with his non-place in the family. Ruck's whole reaction when Kendall is talking about being the eldest son, his silent reaction of just stewing in the frustration that has been building throughout the scene until his blowup that is funny because of the certain brattiness in the insistence, but also moving as he speaks about where his place really is. I particularly love how Ruck genuinely emphasizes the "I do love you" because Connor does love his siblings, however he's just as honest in presenting all the frustration about being treated so blithely by his entire family.

Tony:

I mean in a way his foot does much of the acting, and not really a performance in which I would use to gauge too strongly one's talent. As his performance serves the purpose in seeming a somewhat shallow and nervous student for Tar to destroy, and does that, however there's little alluded to beyond that, however that's not really the point of the character either.

Anonymous said...

Louis are you planning on seeing Beau is Afraid soon?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I could've seen it this weekend, but eh...I'm leaning towards waiting for a home release just because of how much hated Midsommar (which only increased my reservations towards Hereditary).

Robert MacFarlane said...

Yeah, I decided to sit it out as well. Three hours of mommy issues is going to take a pause button and a bottle of scotch for me to get through.

Anonymous said...

What are your favorite underrated turns/"hidden gems among their filmographies" in regard to popular, acclaimed actresses?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GHxndD9hu18

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Thoughts on Superman flying back in time to save Lois Lane? It's stupid, but I don't know...I think it works on a serial comic-book level, to a degree.

Matt Mustin said...

Although when I watched the film again, recently, for the first time in years, it did also feel like someone went "Uh...we're almost out of time, think of something."

Tony Kim said...

Anonymous: It's a shame that's the only scene Kerry Condon got that season.

Louis: Are there any movie scenes you find emotionally affecting or moving, despite not generally being regarded that way?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Mostly performance centric.

Katherine Hepburn (A Bill of Divorcement)
Meryl Streep (Defending Your Life)
Audrey Hepburn (Robin and Marian)
Ingrid Bergman (The Inn of the Sixth Happiness)
Olivia de Havilland (The Strawberry Blonde)
Joan Fontaine (This Above All)
Sissy Spacek (Raggedy Man)
Faye Dunaway (Barfly)

Anonymous:

Matt:

I have mixed feelings about it. Because I think emotionally it *almost* works, as I do like the thought of Superman dealing with failure, the pain in Reeve's performance, the moment of pushing back against his Kryptonian heritage to instead listen to his Earth Father's final words to him...but it also does come off as a little silly. I think that could've been rectified by one by just visualizing it differently (gets a little comical and perhaps the point but not the time for it) and if they had just made it feel even more like a one time thing, as it automatically raises the question "Why not just do that every time there's a problem". So I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. Not the ideal ending but I also don't think it is ruinous as some do. I do HATE it in the Donner cut for 2 however.

Anonymous:

It's a real shame when a granddaughter gets younger later in life...but not to disregard that, I do think it is a moving moment in Banks's performance as he is so sincere and warm while also being constantly separate and stuck in a way at the same time.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Excellent Succession, Culkin MVP for me. Strong and Snook great as well, and for once, I actually liked Skarsgård's work on the show.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Hmm...I'm sure others probably find them emotional too, but maybe here some that aren't quite as clear in their intent I guess:

The Samurai's version of the story - Rashomon
King Brian tricking Darby one last time - Darby O'Gill and the Little People
The President not using the "dirt" - Seven Days in May
The "loser" leaving - Fat City

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on John F. Seitz's work in The Big Clock.

Tim said...

has there ever been a scene that totally got you emotionally while focusing on a character you didn't care about? I've had that recently when re-watching The Fox And The Hound. Widow Tweed is barely in the movie and is not even much of a character, that scene where she abandones Todd in the forest still managed to make me cry. How does that even work?!

Calvin Law said...

Loved the Succession episode, Culkin doing some of his best work here and thought Snook was magnificent too.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Found the third episode of Barry wonderful, definitely shows it can still hit both great comedic and dramatic beats in the same episode. A couple of delightful cameos, and the final sequence is just amazing in every way.

Strong work from everyone, especially Goldberg, Root and Hader. But if I had to choose an MVP, it'd be Anthony Carrigan.

Matt Mustin said...

Kieran Culkin is apparently going lead for the Emmys, which I suspect is probably bad news for Odenkirk.

Mitchell Murray said...

I'm sorry if this is going to sound repetitive, but I've been thinking more about "Blonde" since my intial watch, and it's pissing me off even more. I don't know if I've seen a history based film in the past 1-2 years that bored me, angered me or wasted my time more. de Armas isn't the issue...it's practically everything else.

I can't BELIEVE the same guy who made such a striking, articulate film like "Assassination" also made this boring, irresponsible, fetishistic piece of garbage.

Matt Mustin said...

Mitchell: Well, keep in mind that Jesse James is the only one where he shouts up and down "That's not the movie I made" so god only knows what he would've made there if he got his way.

Louis Morgan said...

Another amazing episode Succession, genius how the show makes you care so much about the aspects of the deal, loved the comedic dynamics with the Swedes, but the intensity of the siblings here was what was most captivating. Culkin easy MVP, his best work of the series, but everyone was great once again. Although I wasn't crazy about Skarsgård last season, thought he was terrific in this episode, achieving what I think he was going for last season, but didn't quite work for me, which is this kind of weaponized blasé attitude.

Fully loved this Barry, which I feel eased up a bit on just how nightmarish the other episodes were, despite being more violent, and balanced with the comedy I think more effectively. Although I'm not sure about the first guest star (though he definitely wasn't a Tarantino), I did love the second guest star however. MVP for me was Hader for his phone call scene.

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: It's wierd...I also don't really mind "Killing Them Softly"; Sort of a whole lot of "meh", but it's helped by Pitt, Jenkins, Liotta and Gandolfini being in "professional mode" as actors.

"Blonde", however...that's going to be seething in me for a while.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Striking work that is really all about the space in the shots, that accentuates really the sense of distance in our figures from the space they are surrounded by, creating this innate kind of imposing quality around our protagonist, who is often positioned to emphasize how big everything is around him. Beyond that though it is lit with a quiet mood of the piece that isn't intense noir style, but has a nice sense of a kind of dread within the style.

Matt:

Seems like the right category with how the season is progressing so far, and unfortunately for Saul, Succession even is derailing any "last season" momentum Saul might've had (though to be fair if Succession maintains its quality so far it SHOULD win everything).

Tim:

The elevator from Oldboy is a prime example of this and Barbossa's death in the first Pirates, as neither are really sympathetic villains but their final moments are emotional regardless.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Do you think it'd be better for the Succession team to submit Cox in Guest? I feel he'd be a guaranteed winner there, especially with that second episode.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Yes, particularly since it will ease the path for Ruck potentially making it in supporting.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Have you watched Walk the Line since you've seen Walk Hard? Because I remember finding the former channel surfing a few years ago (hadn't seen it since I was 13), and proceeded to laugh my ass off for 25 minutes. You think Phoenix and Reilly talked about it on the set of Sisters Brothers?

Emi Grant said...

I'm waiting for the whole season of Succession to come out so I can binge-watch it, so, I can't speak to its quality, but man, I'll be depressed as all hell if I have to see BCS go empty-handed one last time.

*PhilipSeymourHoffmanItsNotFair.mp4*

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I haven't, though I never thought about the Cash/Cox combo in Sisters Brothers.

Tim said...

R.I.P. Harry Belafonte

Luke Higham said...

RIP Harry Belafonte

RatedRStar said...

RIP Harry Belafonte

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Harry Belafonte

Perfectionist said...

RIP Harry Belafonte.

8000S said...

R.I.P. Harry Belafonte.

Maciej said...

RIP Harry Belafonte

Bryan L. said...

RIP Harry Belafonte

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

RIP Harry Belafonte.

Louis Morgan said...

R.I.P. Harry Belafonte

Shaggy Rogers said...

Louis: Say your rankings of the best performances and best films directed by Ida Lupino.

Matt Mustin said...

R.I.P. Harry Belafonte.

Rewatch of John Wick 2 made me put Scarmarcio even lower in my ranking that year than he already was, especially after comparing him to what Skarsgard does in the newest one.

BRAZINTERMA said...

R.I.P. Harry Belafonte

Marcus said...

Rest in peace Harry Belafonte. A legend both on and off the screen.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Inigo and Westley's sword fight in The Princess Bride?

Razor said...

RIP Harry Belafonte.

Perfectionist said...

Genuine question. What is the max rating you all can see Gosling get for "Barbie"???

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from Exosquad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWwl7-xwMSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zy0ZcRW0c0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnDPS2ELlAE

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Perfectionist: A 4.5.

Luke Higham said...

Perfectionist: I'll play it safe and go 4.5. I think he will be the cast MVP. However, I don't think a 5 would be out of the question.

Anonymous said...

R.I.P. Harry Bellafonte.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Next Goal Wins trailer.

Mitchell Murray said...

Rest in peace, Harry Bellafonte. I regretably haven't seen much of your film work, but I will try to resolve that.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, initial thoughts on the "Next Goal Wins" trailer...

-Watiti is not on a good streak, currently, and the delays in this film's release have me extra concerned
-Story seems very safe (don't know the real events it's based on), so I have some expectations there
-Last line in the trailer got a legitimate laugh out of me

-No matter what, this is promising a return for Fassbender and while it looks like a rather light role for him, I still hope he's good

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, to Tahmeed's question regarding "The Princess Bride"... it's one of the single best sword fights in any film.

I've seen Corridor Crew's analysis of the sequence and they pretty much nail it; It's not accurate to rapier swordfighting techniques, but it is 100% replicating the Eroll Flynn swashbucklers of the 30s-40s. Moreover, it's just a delightful bit of banter between Elwes and Patinkin, as two combatents that are so respectful of eachother, whereas a lot of similar fights would emphasize aggression or bloodlust.

And for being a rather lengthy scene, the months of practice and dedication between the performers/stunt doubles really pays off.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

More so Flynn/Rathbone in terms of intention and execution, and wonderfully done as such. As it isn't about the intensity of the fight and much more of it as a dance. And as such you have some wonderful turns with both men switching hands and more so just the conversation between the two that flows through the fight and creates an endearing camaraderie between the two even as they are trying to theoretically kill one another.

8000's

Copyright blocked for all three.

Luke:

Looks like fun from the trailer, and that's all I'm asking for. And while delays are never good, they did have to erase Hammer and replace him from the film, so I'm hoping that was most of the cause.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Aside from Succession and Barry, have you been watching any other TV?

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Last note tonight, since I haven't posed this in a while...what would be your thoughts on the following rock songs?

Watch You Leave - Project Vela
Zombified - Falling In Reverse
Werewolf - Motionless In White
Crawling Back To You - Daughtry
Hero - Onlap (Cover of Skillet's well known single)

Matt Mustin said...

Next Goal Wins looks like it could be fun. Fassbender's accent is all over the place though.

8000S said...

Louis: Who would be your personal choices to play these British Prime Ministers in something?

H.H. Asquith
David Lloyd George
Clement Attlee
Harold Macmillan
Harold Wilson
Edward Heath

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: Your 10 best Matt Dillon moments?

8000S: I'm going to say this about Prime Ministers: If they'll ever make a movie about life and times of Boris Johnson, Mark Williams HAS to portray him.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Jerry Springer

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the Hunger Games prequel trailer.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RIP Harry Belafonte and Jerry Springer

Tony Kim said...

Last week's Barry was easily the best of the season so far, even if much of the suspense was killed by how obvious it was that Barry was going to survive. Getting Barry into a deadly situation and him miraculously escaping it has been this show's M.O. for a while now.

Louis: Are there any scenes you like in films you don't?

Mitchell: Speaking of rock, what do you think of Paramore, Fall Out Boy, and My Chemical Romance?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Watched the first six episodes of Ted Lasso, which I enjoyed well enough. I also had watched Poker Face which honestly is probably my favorite thing that involves Rian Johnson on both a writing and directing front.

8000's:


H.H. Asquith: Brian Gleeson
David Lloyd George: Eddie Marsan
Clement Attlee: Mark Gatiss
Harold Macmillan: Tim McInnerny
Harold Wilson: Brendan Coyle
Edward Heath: Alan Cox

Luke:

The story seems kind of interesting, but looks very flatly directed. Of course I never even finished the original series, so I probably won't be running out to see this one.

Robert MacFarlane said...

So far my biggest takeaway for this year of Ted Lasso is that Jamie is becoming my favorite character.

I enjoyed Poker Face as well. Top 5 guest stars on it?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

1. Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Probably my favorite performance of his to be honest)
2. Nick Nolte
3. Judith Light
4. Cherry Jones
5. David Castaneda

Tony Kim said...

Forgot to mention this earlier, but RIP Harry Belafonte.

Louis: Could you answer my earlier question about scenes you liked in films you disliked? Also, are there any jokes you find really funny in otherwise bad comedies?

Mitchell Murray said...

Tony: Not overly familiar with those bands, to be honest.

Paramore I've decidedly heard the least of (only song that comes to mind is "Decode"), so I can't truthfully speak about their overall quality.

Fall Out Boy I've probably heard the most, and on the strength of "Centuries" and "Light Em Up", I do like their style and sound. They sort of fall into the "Imagine Dragons" realm for me, in that their a decently known band with somewhat higher pitched vocals, yet I only know a few of their tracks.

As for My Chemical Romance...their style is probably closest to my general music taste (in terms of the rock genre specifically). "Panic! At The Disco" and "Welcome to the Black Parade" stand out there, though again my knowledge of the band is quite limited.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: Dude, listen to the entirety of “riot!” this instant. That’s probably my all-time favorite album.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Natasha Lyonne, Benjamin Bratt and your top 5 Poker Face guest stars?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your MVP for Ted Lasso season 3 so far? Like Robert said, love Jamie and everything Phil Dunster does this season, and Goldstein is great as always.

Tim said...

Mitchell:

Watch You Leave: i get the feeling that this song doesn't exactly know what style it wants to be. The vocals and the dominant part of the instrumentalisation (probably done on a keyboard) seem more lightweight and pop-style than the rest of the instruments which are a bit heavier. The tempo also doesn't fit.

Zombified - the lyrics during the verses are a bit too simple for me, but the chorus is actually really fun and it's overall really well fun, proving that FIR can in fact still make legit music (i had already give up all hope)

Werewolf - The singer is a bit too fast during the chorus and the autotune was overdone in the bridge, but othe than that it's okay, not great though. I just find that subject matter a bit boring and overdone

Crawling Back To You - This is the best in here, especially the melody is fantastic. I think the key chance to the chorus at first is a bit too much, but overall no complaints otherwise

Hero - was hard for me to separate it from the original, and Skillet is just more impressive voacally ...

Robert MacFarlane said...

I hope Phil Dunster and Robert Pattinson do a movie version of True West. Or at least something where they play brothers.

Luke Higham said...

Mastroianni got his five. :)

8000S said...

Louis: I've seen some people claim that whatever Leto was doing in Suicide Squad was emulating James Cagney.

Would you agree?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your 1930s cast & director for The Town.

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: I listened to the songs you posted - overall, that "metal" style isn't particularly to my taste, but I enjoyed the earnest mid-2000s vibe of Crawling Back to You. (Yes, I'm aware it's from 2011, but it feels like it could've come from 2004).

Regarding Paramore, I'd recommend Brand New Eyes as a starting point. Riot! has some good songs but has aspects they'd bring to a finer point on BNE.

Oof... what you've heard from FOB is by far my least favourite era of the band. Their second and third albums are worth checking out though. Folie a Deux is inconsistent but that album's opening track is great.

What are your thoughts on 21st century indie rock acts, like The Strokes, White Stripes, the Killers, and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs?


8000S said...

Luke: I'm curious, did you ask Louis to rewatch Through a Glass Darkly for a possible upgrade for Andersson's performance?

Luke Higham said...

8000S: I had not. He had her down in 4th and Kerr was the only five so I wasn't sure whether it was worth asking compared to Schell and Mastroianni who were each one place below the lowest 5.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Well firstly, I posted my last reply just as you posted the question so I literally hadn't read it yet.

But anyways, I mean happens frequently enough and here's some of those times:

Looking into Heaven - The House That Jack Built
Thorin's Death - Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
The Opening montage - Watchmen
The Opening - Mortal Kombat 2021 (to the point I feel like it was directed by someone else)
The Speech - Any Given Sunday
McCoy's Pain - Star Trek V
Ending - Elvis
Tracy's Speech - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Mr. Cellophane - Chicago
Love Medley - Moulin Rouge!
I've Never Seen Anything Like It - Doctor Dolittle
Dancing With Jerry - Anchors Aweigh
Hook's Suicide Attempt - Hook
Psychiatric File - Joker
Car Chase & Car Crash - Death Proof

Let me ponder on the comedy.

Anonymous:

Lyonne - (Her performance is the essential element in a procedural which the show itself shows that a tv show CAN be episodic you just have to be good at being episodic. Lyonne's performance achieves part of this balance which has the right weight and levity in the right measure per episode. She's not all in or all out in every story, she's just right in giving enough empathy while also giving enough snark. Her performance is dramatic enough when it needs to be but has breezy comedic qualities. Really just right in being able to adapt per episode, and she's particularly effective in striking up the right chemistry or anti-chemistry per character per episode. More than anything though she brings the right kind of underdog charm to her performance that makes her easy to root for, while also bringing this casual incisiveness all the same. Honestly wish she hadn't been a cameo in Glass Onion, because I would have loved to have seen Charlie and Blanc team up. Also side note, I think the whole Columbo "how'd they slip up" rather than "who dunnit" actually seems more appropriate to Johnson's approach to mysteries, and perhaps why I enjoyed this much more than Glass Onion.)

Bratt - (Bratt falls into a known quantity actor in that he's not bad, he's not great, and you kind of get what you'd expect. Having said this was the best Bratt performance I've seen, and it is still in his general line but with enough effective variation. He is genuinely menacing at times here, even while bringing enough comedic sensibilities in his montage scenes as an aggressive kind of straight man as well.)

Louis Morgan said...

Gordon-Levitt - (Kind of get his iteration of Miles from Glass Onion if he had played that part, though far more nefarious actually. Gordon-Levitt here I found remarkably owns the despicableness of his character particularly in the way he is so particularly boldface in his expression of lack of any care whatsoever with any of his crimes. There's a calm psychopathy of his performance that is particularly unnerving as the one-episode villains go because he brings such a nasty ease about it. Additionally, though he brings this sense of the real power of the character's manipulative abilities and his constant excuse-making, he plays as true horrible bro-type in the worst of ways, but the best of ways in creating a villain you particularly want to see get caught.)

Nolte - (Quietly moving work from him, brings this very reserved spirit in his character that has this kind of unexpected warmth in his performance that is rather surprising from Nolte, yet works wonderfully here. He's particularly effective and really quite heartbreaking in his scene of watching the true nature of the damning tape of the crime, as he expresses the emotions he's going through, which are very complicated, in such a quietly moving way.)

Light - (Her performance represents the episode particularly well in slowly uncovering the nature of the character. Because she begins seemly with this certain quiet rebel's charm that makes you believe she may be a sympathetic villain type. As it proceeds though the more she reveals about herself the more nefarious she becomes and Light is most effective in showing the sinister nature of the character that starts as a small little idea that expands to being a particularly devious villain.)

Jones - (Effective in playing her sort of villainy with this kind of blunt almost taking care of it like it is her job in a particularly blunt way. Factored through with her moments of phony manipulation, though mixed in with just slight bits of seeming regret albeit minor. Fashioning these elements effectively together in creating the sense of the haunted reaction towards the end of the episode.)

Casteneda - (Thought he created the right sense of buried history with Gordon-Levitt in short order while also playing the sort of hapless underling just trying to go along with a dumb plan while also being as effective in showing the moments of fear and hesitation. Particularly effective in creating a real sense of the genuine loss from the past which he presents so earnestly, and is genuinely moving to the point that there is a deeper tragedy as we see more of just how evil Gordon-Levitt's character is. Casteneda provides a potent contrasting humanity against that. )

Tahmeed:

Honestly, I'd say Dunster, who is extremely dynamic as the reformed Jamie, followed by Goldstein.

8000's:

Uhh, no. I don't even see it as an attempted Cagney. His voice is just ripping off Ledger's brilliant impression of what in all likelihood was Tom Waits. His psycho manner isn't at all like Cody who had a specific intensity, Leto's is just kind of random and extremely ponderous manner. The latter was particularly unCagney who certainly was never a slow speaker.