Clint Eastwood did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Corporal John McBurney in The Beguiled.
The Beguiled is a brilliant film about a wounded Union soldier being taken in by an all-girls school of southern women during the civil war.
This film is a marked departure for both director Don Siegel and frequent collaborator Clint Eastwood, known for hard-edged thrillers like their other film later in 1971 Dirty Harry. Where Dirty Harry played into Clint Eastwood's known strengths, quite effectively at that, The Beguiled considers his then established presence, however, doesn't abide by it. What Eastwood here actually is more than anything this representation of masculinity in a most potent form, which is befitting to the time where Eastwood was pretty much seen as a primary badass style hero from the late '60s on. There is a marked difference however in the way we are first introduced to Corporal McBurney, a wounded Union soldier seeking help from a southern schoolgirl. Eastwood portrays the weakness of the wounded man pleading for help with desperate urgency, not some ease of a man dismissing a wound. He rather is controlled by it as he comes across the girl. Within this moment though we will see the Eastwood presence, however itself, not quite the expectation. This is to keep the girl quiet while a southern patrol lurks, McBurney kisses her, his first action of many that will define the man. Eastwood himself evokes his more traditional leading man charm at the moment, however, this itself is subverted as the target here is a prepubescent girl.
McBurney is taken in by the school where he catches the eye of all including the headmistress Ms. Martha Farnsworth (Geraldine Page), her virginal assistant Edwina (Elizabeth Hartman), lustful student Carol(Jo Ann Harris), and even the little girl he initially kissed Amy. Eastwood's performance fits into a kind of fascinating place as what exactly McBurney is doing in many ways is more enigmatic than the rest of the character. We learn about the women, many times through literal internal monologue, but this is not present for McBurney. Rather McBurney's nature is told to us by himself which is often contradicted by flashbacks that are truer to his nature. In turn, what Eastwood presents is initially seemingly the ideal Eastwood to each of these women. Eastwood is terrific in crafting really what is McBurney's manipulations per woman at the school. This as to Ms. Farnsworth he gives her a smile and an affable manner after initial suspicions. He presents himself as a good man, whereas Eastwood with a quiet passion speaks of trying to help wounded confederates and the shame of their destroyed farmlands, this is undercut by flashbacks with McBurney as he kills all southern soldiers and burning the lands without hesitation. With Carol, he goes straight with a smile of pure lust as he doesn't dissuade her obvious urges, strongly against Edwina where Eastwood delivers the aggression in the lust, while also speaking false statements of a more sincere relationship.
Eastwood each in a way plays each seduction slightly different yet all of them are also kind of the same. This as he accentuates different sides of himself, speaks as the nobleman with Farnsworth, the lover with Carol, and the husband with Carol. Eastwood articulately this through slight adjustment in delivery of each, however, the similarity of all is this sense of manipulation in his performance. This being in all of them the quiet sense of joy in all three. Eastwood shows that McBurney knows what he's doing and has no shame in any of them. Honestly the most authentic he is with Amy, where Eastwood, despite the first scene with her, smiles towards her a slightly more paternal grace that doesn't feel completely false if still, the man is manipulating. Eastwood is fascinating here because in this performance we have much ambiguity, though not the way we're used to with Eastwood. This as Eastwood never lets us know if really there is any actual goodness in McBurney, rather what may seem more genuine and what may seem is not. Where he does deliver a lack of ambiguity is that McBurney is active in his manipulations, and we see here Eastwood turn on the charm, particularly in the first dinner table scene. Eastwood presents with a smile and bright ease his inviting manner to each of the women at the table, and while we never know what McBurney truly feels about any of them, he does let us know in this clear presentation, that McBurney knows what he is doing to each of them.
Eastwood shows this sort of smooth control however with this unnerving duplicitous nature here. The one person he does not convince is the slave of the school Hallie (Mae Mercer). A great character removed from the remake, despite being a terrific character and showing truth to the period. Of course when a filmmaker removes a character because it means the main women in this story won't be "role models" that filmmaker must have read the wrong story, as no one in the entire story should be looked at as a role model, except to maybe some extent Hallie, the character removed. Now apologies for the digression, but there is a point to all of this. This as Hallie is the one character who makes known her suspicions of McBurney and speaks directly to him, and speaks her mind towards his despicable behavior. Eastwood reactions with Mercer are great as their undercurrent isn't lust for one another rather there is this fantastic combination of intense suspicion but also this kind of understanding that both have a greater awareness of the situation than anyone else in the school. These scenes are incredibly dynamic within both performances and they stand out against what we see between McBurney and the rest of the school.
It is then in a way waiting for the sword to fall, or here the man to fall, where McBurney's choice for a late night rendezvous leads him to be injured by Edwina followed by his leg being permanently amputated by Farnsworth. Eastwood is amazing in his first scene awakening as the viciousness of his performance but also the genuine reaction of horror in the moment is fantastic. We get Eastwood at his intense best here but reworked towards something more vulnerable and desperate than usual. He's truly in pain as he tears at the woman, however even in his voice there is a terror within himself as he spews his hatred towards them. Eastwood is unlike you've seen him before, and really most of the time afterwards, in the following scenes as he tries to take over the school by stealing their few weapons and threatening all the women. Eastwood is great because he neither plays it as badass Eastwood nor does he play it as an overt villain. He rather presents it as this raw desperation and intensity. He presents McBurney as not really knowing what to do exactly other than to threaten. There is a sense of fear even in his verbal attacks, and random acts of violence, such as killing Amy's pet turtle. The switch from blithely killing the animal to apologizing to Amy, Eastwood shows a man really just going by the moment in a desperate state that turns into a most dangerous state. Eastwood wields the danger not with a precise aim, rather that of a blunt instrument in just such a messy way at all the women. This naturally in a way finding calm when Edwina forgives him and expresses her love for him. Eastwood's performance isn't that of creating some instant reform in McBurney, rather playing it as the man finding some kind of calm in her offer which he turn states in the next dinner with the school. Unfortunately this the same dinner where the rest of the women conspired to murder him via poison mushrooms. Eastwood is once again great by showing such a different side of his presence in first his initial gentleness then his complete gripping fear at the moment of realization when it is too late. Eastwood here never plays the hero, he plays just a man, and is tremendous here by playing just a man with many flaws. Where the remakes ending is rather hollow, this one is deeply unsettling and heartbreaking in a fascinating way. This as there are no heroes in this version, just about everyone is flawed, and the tragedy comes from everyone giving into these flaws rather than overcoming them. What we see in the end is the minor potential in both McBurney and Edwina, in Hartman and Eastwood little tender moment before the end, and that potential is destroyed. In turn the ending is truly haunting, not because a good man was killed, he was not killed, but because hate and distrust just ended in a betrayal and loss for really everyone. The film itself being a portrait of the complex state of humanity without easy choices or answers. Eastwood's work is an essential facet of this portrait, this as the man who allows himself to be everything to everyone, while he himself is a weak foolish sinner, defined by his indulgences and his flaws. Eastwood hides none of it, granting a greater impact in revealing in his work so much more to this man of the past than a cool glare or a sly smile.
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Also finally watched Eternals which I thought was a pretty dull mess. Felt Zhao's direction was ill-fitting to the Marvel style, particularly her comedic timing, or lack thereof. You could've cut the runtime if you just removed the amount of dead air left over after every failed bit of comedy. Worse though is her use of the CGI, which looks very CGIish here, and exacerbated because it seems that Zhao doesn't seem to know how to properly shoot it. More so though I think she falls into the problem of her quietly emotional style is ill fitting to the operatic tone of the material, where she never plays into the big emotional beats making them seem strangely muted. Additionally it has way too many characters for proper development, there is a distinct lack of chemistry in most of the cast, and the machinations of the plot are simply sloppy and never delves deep into the ideas it's kind of suggesting. There's occasionally (as in very rarely) a decent non CGI shot in there, and I did like Keoghan and Henry (but I think that is mostly just because they're naturally compelling performers), but that's about it.
Chan - 2.5
Madden - 3
Nanjiani - 2
McHugh - 2
Henry - 4
Ridloff - 3
Patel - 3
Ma - 3
Hayek - 2
Jolie - 2
Keoghan - 3.5
Have von Sydow and Hackman gone up, or have you just not moved Eastwood yet?
Louis: Thoughts on the Eternals cast including your rating for Kit Harington.
Michael:
I update at the end.
Razor:
Chan - (Nothing about her performance felt like "Lead" to me here. Honestly I'd say her performance was kind of wooden. Just she brings a stilted quality often in her performance. This as she doesn't bring the right sort of intensity in stoic determination nor tenderness of a genuine humanity, or maybe something charm or charisma. Found her to just be rather bland unfortunately.)
Madden - (Again there's writing problems here because the sort of jokey moments are weird in his performance but also so poorly implemented. I think there was potential here to do something interesting and Madden can have charm, which sadly isn't utilized her seemingly on purpose. He also can have intensity which we do get here, at least a bit, but still the whole thing is messy.)
Nanjiani - (I'm leaning towards Nanjiani being incapable of drama as I thought he was outright terrible in his later scenes. Just like his big breakdown in The Big Sick, he comes off as quite simply "acting" in those moments aka not good. The rest of the time when he's being "funny" he's more comfortable, however he's too broad here overall, although this speaks to the mismanaging of the casting tonally, as they don't cohere and don't really share the proper chemistry particularly in terms of the comedic beats.)
McHugh - (Mainly just speaking towards her big emotional scene, that I just was underwhelmed by. The rest of the time she felt like a footnote.)
Henry - (Really does his best to make the most of the material. Finding his stride in bringing emotion and comedy naturally within his performance. Henry just finds when to do one, when to do the other, and when to mix. He also can do the former, and knows not to overplay the latter. A well measured turn that actually occasionally brought some bit of life to the material.)
Ridloff - (Thought she had an engaging presence that was at the very least consistent unlike many of her co-stars, underused though.)
Patel - (Enjoyed his bits at least to some degree.)
Ma - (Shame he exits when he does, as once again found him to be a charismatic presence, if again underutilized.)
Hayek - (Not a queen of exposition sadly, as I found her pretty stilted. Although to be fair, I rarely find Hayek a great performer.)
Jolie - (Hard to tell if they wrote that "She's out of it" to explain why Jolie seemed completely not invested or not. Either way, here staring blankly wasn't a good choice no matter whose choice it was.)
Keoghan - (He doesn't have any better material, but he's just compelling performer to watch. There's just something innately fascinating about him. This is once again that, and his little riffs he does in his line readings or just manner in a scene does add a lot. This is even with him being underutilized.)
Harington - 3(I did find him charming actually in his brief screentime, and they really probably should've used his character in a way as the audience entry point.)
Not only do i agree with you about Eternals, Louis, but i think it is also one of the worst movies of the year. What a pathetic, self-indulegent, boring, incompetent mess.
Cast Ratings:
Gemma Chan - 3
Richard Madden - 1 (might seem like a bit of a hot take, but him and Patel in this movie are honestly some of the worst supporting performances of the year)
Angelina Jolie - 2
Kumail Nanjiani - 3.5 (the only time where the movie somewhat came to life for me personally)
Barry Keoghan - 1.5 (just looked bored out of his mind and kept the same bland expression on his face even during the emotional bits)
Lauren Ridoff - 2.5
Lia McHugh - 2
Brian Tyree Henry - 3 (would’ve rated him higher, but felt way too underutilized in my eyes despite his effort)
Salma Hayek - 2
Kit Harrington - 1.5
Harish Patel - 1 (gggrrrrr…)
Ma Dong-seok - 2.5
I also watched Shang-Chi. About as basic, but harmless, as you can get for an OK, standard Marvel movie. But at least it’s not Eternals.
Cast Ratings:
Simu Liu - 3
Awkwafina - 3
Tony Leung - 4.5 (MVP of the entire movie)
Meng’er Zhang - 2.5
Fala Chen - 3
Florian Munteanu - 2.5
Ben Kingsley - 3
I also watched Ghostbusters Afterlife a few days ago. Have to admit… i dug it.
Cast Ratings:
Ghostbusters: Afterlife:
McKenna Grace - 3.5
Finn Wolfhard - 2.5
Carrie Coon - 3
Paul Rudd - 3
Logan Kim - 3 (I’m probably one of the few people here that kinda enjoyed Podcast as a character)
Celeste O’Connor - 2.5
Bill Murray - 3
Dan Aykroyd - 3
Ernie Hudson - 3.5
Louis: Any other upgrades for The Beguiled cast.
Looks like I’m alone on the Eternals good island.
Glad to see Eastwood get a great review here, what a fantastic performance.
Louis: have you seen The Electrical Life of Louis Wain by any chance?
Louis: Could I have thoughts on the cast of Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Finally starting to catch up and binge all of the Oscar contenders, bizarrely enough, Supporting Actor is actually a category where its not as bad as it looks on paper lol only Rylance would be a disaster and I don't think that is happening now.
Everybody's opinions on these retro casting choices for Patrick Bateman?
1960s: Burt Reynolds
1970s: Robert De Niro/Richard Gere (I'll admit the latter is more conceptual in nature)
1980s:Alec Baldwin (His Glengarry Glen Ross character but way more sinister)
Ytrewq: I can see the reasoning for Reynolds based on his "Deliverance" work, as he could've delivered on the physical intensity and surface charm needed for Bateman. Same with de Niro, although depending on the era of his filmography it could go either way (Ex. Going far too campy as seen in "Cape Fear"). Baldwin would perhaps be the best for Bateman's narcisism and smugness, and the most age appropriate given the time of the original book. I can't really see Gere, however.
Everyone: On the note of Christian Bale, who do you feel are UK performers that are either the strongest or weakest at American accents? At the risk of taking the more obvious ones, I'll submit the following...
Best -
Daniel Day Lewis
Christian Bale
Gary Oldman
Hugh Laurie
Daniel Kaluuya
Worst -
Ewan McGregor
Eddie Redmayne
Kiera Knightley
Benedict Cumberbatch (Doctor Strange and The Power of the Dog notwithstanding)
Mitchell: I'd add Michael Caine to the second list
What would be the best and worst UK accents by American actors.
Anonymous: For the best:
Johnny Depp
Robert Downey Jr.
Renée Zellweger
Paul Dano
Gwyneth Paltrow
Meryl Streep
Peter Dinklage
Anonymous: Al Pacino and Natalie Portman as for the worst
Louis: your top 10 worst Breaking Bad episodes?
Lucas: He's said there's only one episode he doesn't like.
Luke: Johnny Depp *sometimes*.
Watched the Jane Seymour and Anne of Cleves episodes of The Six Wives of Henry VIII. The former is absolutely my favorite episode of the series thus far, and might be my favorite of any miniseries thus far (to be fair I've only seen 4 miniseries). Anne of Cleves' episode was excellent as well, along with giving her more to do beyond the basics.
Here's hoping the excellence continues!
Matt: I'll admit, I was guity of overlooking Depp's accent work for "Sweeney Todd". Although I'm not that big on the film or his performance, I do think Depp handles the London accent decently well, and does distance himself from his normally soft spoken voice.
I'd also add that Kate Winselt is someone who could fit into both categories, depending on which stage of her career your looking at. Her accent in "Titanic", for instance, is a lot more awkward and uncertain compared to something like "Eternal Sunshine", "Little Children" or beyond.
Another name I'd like to throw into the "Best American Accents" discussion would be Carey Mulligan, mainly because she fooled me for years into thinking she was actually American in the first place.
before i read that Winslet is ashamed of her accent in Titanic, i legitimately thought her character was supposed to be british ...
buuuuut, i also don't see it as that big of a problem, rich people from that time wanted to be seen as cultivated and diferent from the american working class, so her accent being ... both really, can just be traced back to rich people trying to be pretensious in my head-cannon
Depp also did a pretty consistent accent in Finding Neverland.
I actually think Dinklage's accent is INCREDIBLY sketchy, he's just a good enough actor that no one minded.
If we're going to talk about Winslet: Let me just say, she is one of the few people I've seen even attempt the Delco accent in Mare of Eastown and not completely butcher it.
Robert: GoT is also a fantasy world so I'm willing to let Dinklage's accent off the hook a bit more. But also, you're right, he's so good it doesn't really matter.
Luke:
I'd move Mercer up to a 4 and Hartman to a 5.
Holland - (As much as I never liked his Peter Parker up until this point, in terms of a character I felt like investing in (always felt like "little Tony Jr.", I did think he delivered in the role nonetheless. Here I finally did care about his character as he seemed to actually care about something other than getting to live out his fantasy. Holland was good even when I didn't like the writing, so here with better motivations and depth, I think he of course excels particularly in the latter half of the film with the various revelations. He is dialed in and brings the depth needed here in both the sense of compassion, then grief then even vengeful, while also being charming and hitting the comic beats.)
Zendaya - (Getting to drop the too cool for school routine was a great benefit here, and I found she finally worked as the supportive girlfriend character this time around. Rather just seeming purposefully not really in it, she got to be in it, and in turn her chemistry shined with Holland as does the few moments of genuine emotions she gets.)
Cumberbatch - (I've seen negativity towards this performance, not sure why, I think its a fine reprise, not his most pivotal work as him, but for me delivered the appropriate harsh gravitas for the man representing fate essentially.)
Batalon - (He's still just doing bit work, and depends on how much one enjoys his bit work. Here I liked him more than last time I suppose.)
Favreau - (Brings a likable presence as usual, and did think he delivered on the moments of sorrow effectively.)
Foxx - (People have complained that he's nothing like his other performance to which I say GOOD that performance was awful. Here he's coasting on his comedic side, which is often his better side and works as the confident version of the character.)
Dafoe - (Basically we get him full force though without the Raimi extremes, though extremes I've come to like more and more honestly. Still the helmet never was the best choice so we just get more Dafoe making his literal Goblin expression here, and doing the two sides of the lowly Norman and the vicious Goblin. Genuinely moving in the former at times in showing the lost man, and just a whole LOT of fun as the ultimate nemesis.)
Molina - (Wish he got to do more at a certain point, however I did find he brought back both the particular mania that inflicts Ock as well as the manner of his better side too.)
Tomei - (Finally gets to do more than work with some lame MILF bits, and I'm glad about that. Still overall I think she was underused but I thought she made the most out of finally getting to do something here particularly in her final scene.)
Church & Ifans - (Both get the short stick. The latter is what he is at least. The former I'm glad they didn't make a straight villain and kept to that, but they really didn't seem to care about him right down to the weird choice of not bringing any of the real Church back. Still I don't have a problem with what either of them were doing in their vocal performances.)
Maguire and Garfield - (The former I think had a bit of performance rust here and there it felt, given the last live action he did was his career best work in Pawn Sacrifice 7 years ago. Still when he hit the moment, I liked how he hit them with a little bit of his Peter style awkwardness though of a more mature man. This both in his scene with Ock or talking about Uncle Ben, I think he did find a real sense of the character there again. And here's why I'll push back and defend the film as this hollow corporate product, because this is not Ready Player One that merely references the characters and expects you to care. Here it actually does deliver the characters for who they were, and explores that idea in a new dynamic. This dynamic being the chemistry between the three which I thought was the best part. The glue for this actually was my least favorite of the films that being Andrew Garfield, who was frankly nearly MVP for me, maybe he could be in time. Garfield for me I think did the most to make everything work and make up for his former films less than stellar quality. I really liked Garfield's energy here as almost the odd man out looking for approval but also providing this bridge between the two styles in their moments of interaction. More than anything is I thought he legit fantastic in the moments of evoking Gwen's death far more powerfully than we got in the film. Loved his little reaction when Holland Spidey decries his ability to empathize, as his head shake is of a guy who has been through WAY too much. Then his big save moment, I thought his reaction of reliving through his old failure during the success genuinely moving.)
Calvin:
I have.
Ytrewq:
Reynolds yes, Baldwin maybe (right type) I think you need someone more waspy for Bateman so no to De Niro on that basis (though he would deliver in an acting sense), and no to Gere because he's pretty bad in very expressive roles. Maybe Chris Sarandon or Jeff Bridges.
Also found Captain Horatio Hornblower to be a fun action adventure film. Nothing too notable overall, but a nice ride of a film. Peck and Mayo don't have the most complex roles but I thought both acquitted themselves well. The latter in particular, not playing the devious woman for once, thought was rather convincing in the de Havilland type role. Peck to his credit I think hit the right quietly charming note with his stoic style here as well.
Louis: thoughts on Louis Wain and ratings and thoughts on the cast of that movie as well?
I can't credit myself for this observation, but I think one of the most frustrating parts of the "Spider Man" films is that a lot of them have pieces of the puzzle, but not the overall picture.
At their best, the Raimi trilogy has an enjoyable "tongue in cheek" tone straight from the comics, and comes from an era where superhero films could still have an autour vibe, rather than seeming like an coorperate creation. That being said, where I think they fall short is the shaky central romance, and some of the thematic elements unfourtunately sidelining/misrepresenting pivotal characters.
With the two Webb films, they somewhat succeed as a more grounded take on Peter and his struggles (well, the first one anyways). The thing holding both of them back, however, is the constant shadow of the first films, which they never quite escape. This leads to Webb improving certain aspect (namely the chemistry of the lead romance), but still falling into the same pitfalls - like TAS2 having the same exact villain template that knee capped Spider Man 3.
Then you have the Holland films which, in terms of age appropriate casting and tonal balance, do rival both the Raimi and Webb movies. Of course given that they also take place within the MCU, they fall into the trap of feeling too ingrained within Marvel to stand out by themselves. The workmanlike nature of their direction/writing simply isn't as memorable as the goofiness (but also genuine heart) seen most notably in the Raimi films.
Overall, I just think it's a damn shame we haven't had a live action film (barring the ones I have yet to see) that fully represents Peter and his world. For the mean time, though - and I believe Matt may have my back on this one - I will humbly point to "Into the Spiderverse" and "The Spectacular Spider Man" as the best in Spidey media.
Mitchell: I think you are HUGELY diminishing what the Raimi films are.
*screams in Auteur Theory at the Raimi analysis*
Matt: For the absolute record...the Raimi films are my favourite of the lot by a decent margin, warts and all. I mostly summarized them and the other films as such because if I didn't, my comment would be 1000+ words.
And before anyone more versed in film theory than myself jumps down my throat, I mean autour in the sense that you can clearly tell it's a single directors' style. Another example (less successful, I would say) would be Batman Returns, where you can 100% tell it was directed by Tim Burton.
I mean come on...rewatch Otto's surgery scene from "Spider Man 2" and tell me Raimi wasn't channelling Evil Dead.
I was more referring to when you said "At best", they have a tongue in cheek tone, because that's not AT ALL what I like about them the best.
I'll defend Batman Returns until I die. Sure, it deviates from the comics in some aspects, but I love the visual style of it.
And as much as I like Spider-Verse, I way prefer Spider-Man 2. Hell, I even prefer Spider-Man 3 over TASM 1 and 2.
8000S: I used to disagree with that Returns take, but when I rewatched it in December, my appreciation for it skyrocketed. It's retroactively refreshing to watch Tim Burton to turn a film meant to sell toys into a mall goth Cirque du Soleil freakshow. I used to complain it was barely a Batman movie, but now I'm on the "Batman? Never heard of him." train of thought with it.
You know what, honestly, I think I could really care less if things deviated from the comics, and I do read comics. I like how Raimi decided to make Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Sandman sympathetic villains. Raimi's Norman Osborn has to be the most likable version of the character, which is saying something, since most of the time, he is such a scumbag.
Hell, as much as I love The Dark Knight, whenever I think of Gotham, I think of the Burton movies and TAS when it comes to how it should look like.
8000S: It's funny to me how Batman Begins kind of goes with the gothic aesthetic complete with miniatures for the third act, but then it's like "lol nope, Chicago bitches" for the next two.
Louis: your thoughts on the cast of Louis Wain?
Louis: Ratings for Peck and Mayo.
Louis: Thoughts on Tony Dalton, Vera Farmiga, Alaqua Cox, Florence Pugh and Vincent D'Onofrio in Hawkeye?
8000S: Finally someone who appreciates BR! I've always thought that if one expects it to be an experiment with Burton going full force with his worldbuilding style and not a straight superhero movie, then what else can you ask for?
Yeah, I'm gonna be stubborn on this one and say that I'll always hate Batman Returns.
Lucas:
Rabid Dog is literally the only episode I don't like (Not that I hate it), as it is the only where I felt the series spun its wheels to delay its drama.
Matthew:
Thought the film was onto something, but didn't fully achieve it in its atypical attempt at a Victorian biographical film. I did like the charm of the central romance, much of its quirk and some of its visual style, however once one character exits I didn't feel the film knew precisely where to go. In turn felt it suffered in its last act, though it certainly tried to do something special there, so I'll give it credit for the attempt even if I didn't feel it succeeded.
Cumberbatch - 4(Right in his eccentric wheelhouse here though with likability and introversion turned up. He's hitting familiar beats that he's hit before in this type of role, but Cumberbatch knows how to play genius of any kind. This is no different and he succeeds here as usual in such a role. Extra points for his nice warm chemistry with Foy, and while he takes a back burner to the visual choices in the latter half, I did think he was largely effective in portraying the deterioration of the character, while other than his "old guy" voice.)
Foy - 4(Found her immensely charming here and brought a nice balancing act with Cumberbatch in portraying a mutual introversion but this quiet connection the two introverts then share. A genuine sweetness between the two that I found to be most winning, to the point I wish the film had existed almost entirely between the two of them.)
Riseborough - 3(There's parts of her performance I liked more than other parts, as there were times were I"m not sure where she was going with aspects of the character.)
Jones - 3(Typical period work from Jones, but he's good at it as usual.)
Mitchell:
I'll add to the disagreements here, the one, and to me only, major flaw of the trilogy is the forced inclusion of Venom in the third film, that film should've been about Sandman (who does work), Harry (who gets sidelined in his moment that was built up for his dumb amnesia plot) and Peter all dealing with revenge or redemption in different ways. In the first two films Raimi is true to his vision including with all characters (who should be adapted) to tell his story successfully.
Webb's problem is, unlike Raimi, he wasn't true to his tone at any point making Electro, that Doctor guy and Hobgoblin SO goofy, while trying to have Peter and Gwen seem so genuine, and also getting BOGGED down with all that stupid conspiracy plot involving Peter's dad, which has no point in either film as they currently exist.
Luke:
3.5
Anonymous:
Dalton - (He's some fun as the purposeful red herring but really just there to make you think of Lalo, then not be Lalo.)
Farmiga - (Again de-aged for 8 years...really. Otherwise I found her slightly lost here in terms of how to portray the character as she never goes that dark as she should, but also the series seems too timid about the idea anyways. So she's lost in a vague grey space that does her no favors.)
Cox - (#1 character in too many characters. There's nothing I theoretically minded about what she was trying to do here, but I just didn't care because of how rushed and disjointed her inclusion was. Echo is capable of being a great character, and she certainly worked hard to hit the big emotional notes, however I felt very little impact from the writing.)
Pugh - (#2 character in too many characters. Pugh is charismatic as per usual, and I liked her chemistry with Steinfeld, but beyond that found herself trapped in a world of lame choices towards a standard misunderstanding revenge plot (we really needed 2 of those in one series I guess.) Again something that is fumbled by how rushed it is and how it tries to be light while trying to be series. I like Pugh in the role still, but I really found all her scenes away from Steinfeld pretty tiresome.)
D'Onofrio - (#3 in too many characters. I don't think he's the problem either, I think he modulates towards a middle ground between ultra dark and more standard superhero fair, but it's like "Why is he really here" with how little they do with him.)
Matt:
I'm with you, I don't mind for a second that it's Burton doing his own thing, my problem is I don't like what he's doing. From Gotham looking like it is a mile wide total with how it only seems to be the Christmas tree yard, to Penguin acting horny all the time in his attic, that stupid kiddie car ride "action" (I think Burton's inability to direct action probably made him not ideal for Batman anyways, but that's besides the point I'm making here) scene, to Max Schreck just being a boring actual villain, even Catwoman I think is just saved by Pfeiffer being that good as a lesser performance would've been atrocious with those Mae West lines of hers. I'd be all for the craziness if I found it found it fun, funny, entertaining or just compelling in any way, I don't.
Louis: Have you finished off any of the TV recommendations.
Louis: I once asked you a question that you forgot to answer. Do you think that the complexity of Rick Blaine and Rhett Butler is often overlooked by some people? I mean, those people seem to point at Bogart and Gable's performances in Sierra Madre and The Misfits as the ones that really prove that those two could act, while ignoring that Rick and Rhett are also complex.
Louis: your 10 best Ian McShane and Alfred Molina scenes?
Saw the new Scream, which I liked quite a bit actually. Won't give ratings because I always feel like with slashers it kind of gives the game away.
Calvin: I saw the new Scream as well, It is the best film since the original, a few minor problems but I liked it a lot, I wish it was a little longer actually, I actually don't think it will give away spoilers, or at least in my ratings I am only gonna post the ratings of the main cast that everyone knows about because I think there is a whole hodgepodge of great and bad acting in the film.
Louis: Has Geraldine Page's position changed in the 71 Lead Actress overall or does she remain in 4th.
My ratings for Scream (2022)
Ammar (2)
Arquette (4)
Barrera (4.5 MVP)
Campbell (3)
Cox (3.5)
Gallner (1.5)
Gooding (3)
Ortega (4)
Madison (3)
Minnette (2.5)
Quaid (3.5)
Shelton (2)
Savoy Brown (3.5)
Guys. The Tragedy Of Macbeth left me speechless. Wow. What an amazing movie. Best adaptation of Macbeth next to Throne Of Blood.
Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/2tObJD
Cast Ratings:
Denzel Washington - 5
Frances McDormand - 5
Bertie Carvel - 3.5
Alex Hassell - 4.5
Corey Hawkins - 4
Harry Melling - 3
Brendan Gleeson - 3.5/4
Kathryn Hunter - 5
Moses Ingram - 3
Stephen Root - 3.5
Ralph Ineson - 3
Miles Anderson - 3
Louis: I don't even think Pfeiffer is good, honestly.
Louis: Your ranking for all the Batman films that you’ve seen.
Caught a preview screening of Cyrano. I loved it to bits and Dinklage is AMAZING. Career-best performance I think for me. Bennett and Harrison Jr. are phenomenal too. My favourite musical of 2021, in fact might be my favourite musical of this century (it’s up there with 8 Women and Dancer in the Dark).
Ytrewq:
Molina:
1. Jessie's Girl - Boogie Nights
2. Regrets - Promising Young Woman
3. You listen to me - Spider-man 2
4. Turning down Warner - Feud
5. Outside the door - An Education
6. Letter to Students - Love is Strange
7. Awkward conversation with his wife - Feud
8. The murder - Prick Up Your Ears
9. "How are you" - Spider-man: Far From Home
10. We can rebuild - Spider-man 2
McShane:
1. His past - Game of Thrones
2. Vic goes to Wolfe in grief - Villain
3. Things you don't want to do - Deadwood
4. "Leading" the "council" - Deadwood
5. Counseling John - John Wick: Chapter 2
6. His scene - Nine Lines
7. Wolfe at an end - Villain
8. About to kill the Sheriff - Deadwood
9. Of course you will - John Wick: Chapter 2
10. Night visit - Sexy Beast
Luke:
No.
8000's:
I think frequently there are those who denote complexity with the amount of emotions that a given character conveys, which is not the case. Both Rhett and Rick are characters who play their emotions close to their chest, although both are not without complexity in their emotions. The whole conflict is Rick dealing with his crisis of conscience while also dealing with his vulnerability in his former personal betrayal. Both aspects of Rick are internalized in this struggle, however the complexity is there, just quietly in each moment of the progression as both aspects of Rick's struggle come to a head in the finale, brilliantly in both the writing of the film and Bogart's performance. the film doesn't spell out these moments, but they are there. Saying Rhett is simple, in a way is comical to me, in that basically it suggests certain viewers are fooled by Rhett as well. Rhett wants to be a simple charming rogue who doesn't care about anything. Again the complexity then is the moments, in both Gable's performance and in the story, where this is challenged. Whether that is his humanity in dealing with the local madam derided by most, his reservations for his selfish actions, and of course the nature of his relationship with Scarlett. What works so much about the relationship is that in Gable's performance you see that the infatuation is in part him seeing her for what she is, and loving sort of her selfish cutthroat manner that actually supersedes his own. The conflict of their relationship stemming from him both hating this aspect yet also being driven towards it. Again such elements are not of some simple romantic rogue, that one could misinterpret him as, but a properly fleshed out role. Again though this requires reading at least a little bit into each part, and if you took every moment for the most surface value, maybe you wouldn't see it, compared to "Treasure" and "the Misfits" where the complexity is clearer in the text relying less on the subtext as is the case with Rhett and Rick.
Bryan:
1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
4. Batman (1966)
5. The Dark Knight Rises
6. Batman (1989)
7. The Lego Batman Movie
8. Batman Returns
9. Batman v. Superman
10. Batman Forever
11. Batman & Robin
Calvin: ratings for the cast of Cyrano?
Dinklage: 5
Bennett: 4.5/5
Harrison Jr.: 4.5/5
Mendelsohn: 2.5 (might bump him up, his singing is really bad but honestly thinking about it, it does suit the role)
Salahuddin: 3
Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIh-Vwc49I
I watched The Tragedy of Macbeth.
Louis, I know opted not to save him since Supporting Actor was getting too crowded, but you should have saved Alex Hassell.
Also watched The Tragedy of Macbeth and loved it. Coen really embraces the darkness of the story which makes it terrifically engrossing, especially in how the visual elements compliment the storytelling (agreed with Louis that this should easily win Best Cinematography at the Oscars). I'll hold off on cast ratings for now as I might get to watch it again next week, though I will say that Washington is definitely a 5 in my book.
I have NOT seen The Tragedy of Macbeth because I don't have the streaming service it's on and it's KILLING me.
I did, however, watch the 2015 Justin Kurzel Macbeth, which, aside from some pacing issues, I actually pretty much loved.
Fassbender-5
Cotillard-5
Considine-3.5
Harris-4
Reynor-3.5
Thewlis-3
Debicki-3
LOVED The Tragedy of Macbeth, easily my favorite film of 2021. Washington's really close to Mifune for my favorite portrayal of Macbeth.
Washington - 5
McDormand - 5
Hassell - 4.5
Carvel - 3.5
Hawkins - 4
Melling - 3.5
Gleeson - 3.5
Hunter - 5
Ingram - 3
Root - 3.5
4 5s for Bogart. :)
I'm pleased he got upgraded for The Caine Mutiny.
Watched Venom: Let There Be Carnage, and thought it was pretty bad. It embraces the schlock, however that doesn't mean its good at that, it did not hit that sweet spot in such terms as I felt was largely true for say Malignant. In fact it is a complete mess in terms of its actual storytelling particularly in regards to developing shriek and Stephen Graham's characters, and just unraveling the plot even as schlock. It's truly a "stuff happens" film then it ends. The action here also is pretty clunky, which you're not entertaining schlock if you do a clumsy CGI finale that adds to nothing. Only really felt a few of the Hardy playing against himself moments were fun, but that's about it. Even then, I thought they kind of got just a little too winky for its own good at a certain point "I'm out of Eddie's Closet". I really think Serkis by embracing the trashy tone, did probably make for a more consistent Hardy performance (all lobster tank), but really very few gains overall.
Hardy - 3.5
Graham - 2.5
Williams - 2
Harris - 2
Scott - 2
Harrelson - 3.5
Anonymous:
Kind of a weird scene to delete as it provides closure to their scenes far more potently than what we got, though maybe they plan on bringing her back next season, as this does feel a missing scene in providing closure on their relationship.
Any further thoughts on Hardy and Harrelson.
Luke:
Hardy - (He gets to get away from that awkward performance as Eddie Brock "Star reporter" and just play into Eddie, the slightly crazed guy dealing with a constant even crazier person attached to him. There he does excel in just getting to play around with the constant mania, and does naturally find some comedic moments with himself. He also is having the right type of fun with his Venom performance as well, and combined he is the most entertaining part of the film.)
Harrelson - (I think the film might've worked if they eliminated the other characters and just had he and Hardy play against each other and themselves for the runtime. Sadly Harrelson doesn't get to do enough of either. Additionally the whole Shriek subplot is so rushed nothing can be made about that though Harrelson does try to make something happen as fast possible. In fact he barely even gets menace, man more I think about this film the worse it gets. Anyways, he is fun playing against Hardy and playing into the psychopath tone in a purposefully playful and jovial kind of way. He plays up the villain style, and it works. Shame it's rather poorly implemented overall, but I did like everything he did here.)
Hardy apparently only did a few lines of Venom’s in the first one. A voice actor who recently passed away named Brad Venable did a hige chunk of Venom’s lines. You can tell it’s Hardy entirely here since you can barely understand anything he’s saying
Louis: Just a random curiosity, has there ever been a time where you were surprised I was so positive about something? Could be a movie or a performance.
Well, random side note here: I finished season 2 of "The Sopranos" this evening, and that is all I'll be able to watch of the show for the next few months. Needless to say, though, it's more than living up to it's reputation as a rather groundbreaking series with an excellent lead performance.
As for subsequent viewings in the next months (beyond completing "The Sopranos", of course), here are some of the other series I may finish/seek out...
Star Wars Rebels (seasons 2, 3 and 4)
My Hero Academia (season 5)
Breaking Bad (Never seen all the way through - I know!)
Star Trek: Next Generation (Curiousity pick, as I'm more familiar with the original series, though I've been told it has a rough start)
Your top 10 Ingrid Bergman performances?
Louis et al: Your ranking for 2021s’ comic book movies.
I’d go…
1. The Suicide Squad
2. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Close though)
3. Shang-Chi
4. Black Widow
5. Venom 2
6. Eternals
5 & 6 are interchangeable for me tbh. I did get a couple of laughs out of Tom Hardy in Venom at least, whereas I found Eternals tedious to get through.
This really wasn’t Marvel’s year on the film front, or at least Disney-Marvel, since No Way Home was of course from two different studios.
Finally watched Dune, which I liked a good deal. Does feel very much like a Part One and I can definitely see why it would leave some with a more lukewarm reaction towards it because of that, but I still found it to be a compelling introduction to a hero's journey overall due to some investing world building and the structuring around Paul's approach to accepting the role that's been given to him.
So…did anyone else like Eternals or am I entirely alone on the island on this front? And strong disagree with Bryan, though I also happen to think No Way Home is one of the weaker of their efforts this year.
Louis: Can I have your thoughts on this scene from Boston Legal and James Spader's performance? I asked you on the last post.
https://youtu.be/IujFjGTHGck
Robert:
That adds up, as he sounds much goofier here, though that is part of the tonal shift as well.
Probably First Man, though I didn't think you were going to dislike it.
Bryan:
My ranking would be the same though #1 would be firm as would #6.
Anonymous:
1. Autumn Sonata
2. Notorious
3. Gaslight
4. Casablanca
5. The Inn of the Sixth Happiness
6. Journey to Italy
7. Stromboli
8. Europa 51
9. Goodbye Again
10. Anastasia
Anonymous:
Well the directing I thought was a little strange with all the camera zooms and pans, and the frequency of the editing was a bit jarring. Having said that, I found Spader's passionate performance quite striking with just well delivered earnest monologue, notable, as I largely know him for his film roles that all have some degree of sleaze to them.
Boston Legal probably aged like milk in a lot of regards (dismissive attitude towards sexual harassment, soapboxing so unrepentant that Aaron Sorkin would blanche, iffy depiction of Asperger’s), but Spader and Shatner were both gold. Both are riffing on their older personas while stretching themselves.
The Practice’s last season was basically a giant backdoor pilot to Boston Legal, with Spader (by his own observance) being brought in to demolish a dying show. It was actually kind of bold, because they basically deconstructed the entire series and how the characters are technically awful people by nature of what they do. Seriously, by the end they must have gotten at least 50+ murderers off. I should binge the whole series and do a count.
Someone once asked about TV shows where their lead performances were the only good thing about it, and yeah, Boston Legal's the perfect answer to that. Terrible directing, questionable writing a lot of the time,and incredibly formulaic at best.
With all that being said though, Spader and Shatner deserved every single Emmy they won for it.
Louis: Your thoughts on Belle.
Luke:
With this, Flee and Mitchell and the Machines (which I also watched and thought was a terrific entertainment), I am going to be severely disappointed when Disney takes the animated feature win once again. This was my favorite of the three Hosoda films that I've seen. Spellbinding visuals of course, fantastic music, but amazing storytelling here. Honestly I think it puts most films that try to comment on the internet to shame with the honest nuance and emotional power it delivers from it. Both in terms of someone hiding behind it and finding their voice through it. I love that Hosoda treats it neither as a pure good or evil, but rather a complicated thing. Now as much as I was engaged by all the threads of this film, I did think to myself it could either all fall apart, or it will be my favorite film of the year if all the threads come together. Well it was almost the latter for me, just one of the threads gets a little tangled and I think should've just been resolved in an easier, and saner way. There's a natural climax, then should be epilogue that could've been resolution, rather the film goes for a second that veers too far from reality (even in a stylistic film like this). A shame as when the actual climax was happening, it was my favorite film of the year. Still, the extra doesn't sabotage the rest of the film, nor is it truly bad or anything. Still the merits still made this quite the experience, which I'm glad I saw in the theater for the visuals alone.
Thoughts on Mitchell and the Machines.
Oh wow, now I am extra excited to see Belle.
I just finished Eternals. I don't think I fall into either camp. It is often inert and pointless and has little to no character development, which makes the payoff nonexistent, but I still found it watchable, decently acted for the most part, and gorgeous to look at. I found Zhao's direction to be lacking in certain aspects (there was a lack of suspense in important areas, for instance), but not in others (I didn't have a problem with her comic timing. Overall I don't think I wasted my time watching it, but I also think it was some ways short of being a strong movie.
Chan: 3.5
Madden: 3.5
Nanjiani: 2.5
McHugh: 1.5
Henry: 3.5
Ridloff: 3
Keoghan: 3.5
Lee: 3
Patel: 3
Harington: 3
Hayek: 2
Jolie: 2.5
I adored Belle even with its excesses and somewhat incredulous ending. Would be a joke if this fails to get nominated while three separate Disney films get in.
Louis: thoughts on The Mitchells Vs The Machines as well as ratings for the cast for that movie?
PS: Mitchells is still my favorite animated movie of the year.
Aw, I was really looking forward to watching The Mitchells vs. The Machines. I’m glad it sounds like you liked it, I thought it was a hoot.
Louis: What did you think of Kaho Nakamura as Suzu/Belle? She's my vote for best vocal performance of 2021.
Well, on a related note to Tahmeed's comment about emmy wins, I powered through the entire first season of "Breaking Bad" today...
Not a whole I could add other than it's earned the acclaim thus far. And despite my reservations about Cranston's recent work, his performance from the first season alone is a tremendous achievement; I found his depiction of White's cancer struggle to be especially moving, although I'll admit those scenes hit me harder than expected.
Luke:
The Mitchells and the Machines is one of those films that sets out to what it sets out to do, and just succeeds with ease. This as it has such creative action via creativity in its wonderful off-beat animation, successfully uses its goofy humor in its oddball concept, and then is genuinely moving in the portrayal of the family dynamic. There honestly was nothing not to like with this one, it just moves and it just works, and is just a whole lot of fun, while being genuinely emotional in places.
Matthew:
Jacobson - 4
McBride - 4
Rudolph - 3.5
Rianda - 3
Andre - 3
Colman - 3.5
Armisen & Bennett - 3.5
Robert:
First off glad you also adored it too, the more I think about it the more I'm liking it honestly.
Well learning that it's all her singing as well, yikes, this was some pretty impressive work across the board from Nakamura. From being just so vulnerable in her performance as Suzu, and is genuinely so moving just from her voice alone in so many scenes of articulating her shyness and insecurities. Then the innate confidence though she brings out as Belle and particularly in her singing voice. There are many such nuanced moments though in the shifting, particularly in the climax, where you get her bleeding between the two sides of her, that is pretty spectacular. Loved her vocal performance to put it bluntly.
Louis: Your thoughts on the voices of Richard Widmark, Raymond Burr, Raymond Massey, Dan Duryea and Charles McGraw.
Louis: Thoughts on the Mitchells vs Machines cast.
My thoughts on the voice acting in The Mitchells vs. The Machines is that I love the way Danny McBride says the word “Robots.”
Also as far as 2021 viewings, the two I most want you to get to, Louis, are Shiva Baby and French Exit.
Well, i just finished Cyrano and… *sigh*… probably one of the most below average musicals i’ve seen in god knows how long. I’d say a 4/10 for this one.
Cast Ratings:
Peter Dinklage - 3/3.5 (sorry guys, but I don’t get the hype for him at all)
Haley Bennett - 3.5
Kelvin Harrison Jr - 4
Ben Mendelsohn - 2
Bashir Salahuddin - 3
your thoughts on this modern Cast for Glengarry Glen Ross?
Director: Armando Iannucci
Levene: Frank Langella
Roma: Nicholas Cage
Moss: Jon Hamm
Aaronov: Joe Lo Truglio
Williamson: Jason Bateman
Blake: Peter Capaldi
Lingk: Paul Giamatti
i also finally got to watch The Last Duel today, which may just be Ridley Scotts best film in 20 years.
Damon: 3,5
Driver: 4.5
Comer: 5
Affleck: 4.5
I did not love The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, which I would not qualify as a black comedy as it is often listed, I'd just describe as an unpleasant and repetitive tragedy. Although not a bad film, it is one where you get the point very quickly then it becomes repetition of the point, which can work if the execution has something special in itself. Here it is this matter of fact unpleasantness and continues as such. Didn't think it was poorly done, but didn't feel it earned its length with this approach. Either way, I'm far from the raves it seems to get from most, though I think it is fine overall.
Also watched Luca, which is fine...I guess.
8000's:
Widmark - (Funny thing is he typically did that more weasel like voice in his performance, though his more commanding voice was per typical though less used. A proper commanding voice though when used.)
Burr - (Dramatic emphasis incarnate perhaps.)
Massey - (A very unique voice as I guess the transatlantic Canadian? Either way unique and memorable as such.)
Duryea - (A bit like Widmark though leaning typically closer to the former style of voice.)
McGraw - (Very straight forward period "MAN's" voice.)
Anonymous:
Jacobson - (A nice spirited turn in just bringing that energy that is a whole lot, but I felt never too much. This while also modulating it nicely for those key emotional moments and does find the nuance there.)
McBride - (Vocal MVP as his goofy specific deliveries, like his pronunciation of robots, is just wonderful and brings the right sort of mysteriousness that is both overbearing and endearing. McBride is too much in the right way, but like Jacobson absolutely hits those emotional beats with some real power to them.)
Rudolph - (Mostly the motherly warmth though a bit of goofy and crazy for good measure and well done.)
Rianda - (Slightly inconsistent as he occasionally fell into "this is definitely a grown man" sounding in moments, but still worked overall in the energy for the character.)
Andre - (Least interesting overall but brought the right pompousness needed.)
Colman - (Once again her ability for intensity is notable even when she isn't visible. This as she does that playfulness that warps towards intense deviousness with such capable ease and memorable atypical menace.)
Armisen & Bennett - (Both bring just the right doofy energy with the robot style type of delivery that is just properly hilarious throughout.)
Michael:
I have seen Shiva Baby, I'll get on French Exit at some point.
Tim:
Overall yes, and while Capaldi seems a perfect British Blake, he seems to be the odd man out in terms of nationality among your group.
Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.
Louis: And the same for Shiva Baby with thoughts on the film.
Louis, thoughts on Ioan Fiscuteanu and Luminița Gheorghiu.
Louis: Have you seen Supernova from the last awards season.
Well, I'm currently 4 episodes into "Breaking Bad" season 2, and I'm continuing to be affirmed of what people have said to me; namely, that it's filled with incredible acting and tight, smartly connected writing.
I'll finish off season two soon, but I did want to ask everyone here something; Of the award's contenders this year that are available on netflix, which was your favourite? I've seen "Don't Look Up" and "The Power of the Dog" - and big surprise which I preferred - but what would the next one I should watch be?
I won't lie - I'm going through a bit of a downswing emotionally, and I just need something that will be worth my time and technically impressive from a film making perspective. I don't mean to get so personal since it's not something I normally admit to, but I don't know...I've come to respect the input of the people on this blog spot, so I figured it was worth a shot.
I finally ripped the band-aid off and watched Don't Look Up. To quote Denzel from a far superior film the same year, 'It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.'
Mitchell: Really sorry for what you're going through, man. For awards contenders on Netflix, can't recommend Passing enough. The performances, Hall's direction, and the cinematography were more than enough to pull me in personally.
Louis: ratings for the cast of Luca?
Second Tahmeed on Passing, and take care Mitchell.
Louis, any plans to watch Yellowjackets?
I managed to watch all the movies that are in the Another year and lineup. My performance rankings are:
Lead Actor
1. Washington
2. Cumberbatch
3. DiCaprio
4. Garfield
5. Smith
Suporting Actor
1. McPhee
2. Kotsur
3. Hinds
4. Dornan
5. Rylance (that denture of his was more annoying than Rami Malek's)
Louis: If Luminița Gheorghiu is a 4.5, where would you rank her in the Supporting Actress overall.
Louis: Thought you might be interested in this VFX breakdown of the Tragedy of Macbeth https://vimeo.com/665047340
Louis: Your ranking of the SAG TV nominees that you saw in each category?
Mitchell:
I'll third on Passing, and hope you feel better soon.
Matthew:
Grazer and Tremblay would be a 3 maybe 3.5 if I'm being generous everyone else would be a 2.5 at best. I just found the voice acting here pretty uninspired, much like the film, everyone did their job, but that was about it.
Luke:
Shiva Baby I thought was effective as basically a horror film based entirely on social anxieties. Effectively though I felt in just unraveling the situation as basically this social pressure cooker of various mistakes, errors or just actually existing within any kind of social system honestly.
Sennott - 4.5(Felt her performance was fairly essential in creating the film's style. Her performance contains that sense of the situational pressure that is this near constant and only increases in so many moments. Her expressions entail someone who is holding in so much, and just barely holding it in. You can see her secrets on her face but also just her unease that is a near constant. She balances it out as it isn't full of physical excruciating pain, but it isn't far from it. In turn her performance is engaging in threading through each situation the particular nerve pinching qualities whether that be her seeming aimlessness in reflections with her parents, or the complexities of either one of her relationships. Her performance in both the more toxic and the more positive though she carries with it this near hysteria of her trying to reach out for some kind of control in one or some kind of relief in the other. This is against her moments with her parents where she's terrific in showing this kind of prisoner in mind just caught inside with a sense of torture within every moment of simply just listening to them.)
Gordon - 4(Her performance works more than anything in terms of creating the sense of the past relationship. That specific chemistry, which is very complicated, is very well realized. We have the idea of it and both the connection and the break that came from it. In terms there is so much in their interactions that you get a real sense of what happened, even though we only know some aspects of what happened between the two characters overall. The sense of that history though is in every interaction from moments of frustration, but also eventual cathartic release of comfort as well.)
Melamed - 3.5(I mean the king of pompous condescension. He just handles it with such ease and is grating in the perfect kind of way. In some ways a lesser reprise of A Serious Man performance, however certainly quite effective on its own terms as the very particular overbearing father type.)
Yes I saw Supernova some time ago, felt there wasn't much to report on. It is fine, though I think low key to a fault, in that the narrative really doesn't risk anything at any point, and just tells the story with largely run of the mill execution and writing. It isn't bad, but it just isn't special at all because at a certain point it just doesn't really go anywhere. It introduces the relationship but is almost too timid to get into the pain of the situation. Still it is more than fine.
Firth & Tucci - 4(They're chemistry is the best part of the film. The two have a genuine sense of love between the two and are affected by the virtue of their interactions more than anything. I don't think the film really delves into particularly engaging areas in their relationship, particularly later on when other characters arrive that frankly just dilute from what works. This being just the two together as the two together carries just a natural emotional quality just from what the actors are bringing. Again I don't think the material asks either actor to really explore beyond a certain depth, but they make do with the depths that are offered to them. It is easy to believe them together and there is something moving just within that sense of relationship. Again I think this is slightly wasted on the film's writing that doesn't push them anywhere interesting, however they grant a great starting point the filmmakers failed to fully utilize.)
Stephen:
Fiscuteanu - 4(His performance is a good portrayal of both this physical and mental exhaustion that is only exacerbated as he is ignored by his so-called caregivers. This performance though is much like the film where it is repetition, which he does well but just that. This in portraying his anger and unease at the various uncaring attendees is well done, and that combined with his growing failing health is in general well performed. At a certain point though you understand the character and we know him, and then we just get the same general idea repeated. He does it all well, but at a certain point it becomes less compelling after a while, though he maintains himself as this unfortunate victim of his system, while also showing how he is particularly ill equipped in dealing with such a system.)
Gheorghiu - 4(Her performance is good as well, though again her performance is as this consistent advocate who speaks towards helping him, while also trying to be a mediator between his frustrations and the difficulty of everyone they come across. She maintains that determination but also her own kind of exhaustion that grows as the night goes on. Her performance works with this consistency with a hint of a degree of optimism though largely she presents it as a kind of this hope she barely believes. Her performance again I think would have a greater impact if the film was actually briefer as she has to hit repeated notes, though she consistently hits those well, and certainly does give an effective performance overall.)
Anonymous:
SAG:
Male Actor Limited Series:
1. Oscar Isaac - Scenes From a Marriage
2. Evan Peters - Mare of Easttown
Would not be hard for the other nominees to be above Peters for me, I thought his performance was the weakest major aspect of Mare.
Female Actor Limited Series:
1. Kate Winslet - Mare of Easttown
2. Jean Smart - Mare of Easttown
Male Actor Drama Series:
1. Jeremy Strong - Succession
2. Lee Jung-jae - Squid Game
3. Kieran Culkin - Succession
4. Brian Cox - Succession
Great lineup honestly.
Female Actor Drama Series:
1. Sarah Snook - Succession
2. HoYeon Jung - Squid Game
Male Actor Comedy Series:
1. Brett Goldstein - Ted Lasso
2. Jason Sudeikis - Ted Lasso
3. Martin Short - Only Murders in the Building
4. Steven Martin - Only Murders in the Building
While I liked both Short and Martin, Hoult should've been there, though I imagine Douglas could be the odd man out in that regard.
Female Actor Comedy Series:
1. Elle Fanning - The Great
2. Hannah Waddingham - Ted Lasso
3. Juno Temple - Ted Lasso
Tony:
No, but have no objections to the idea.
Calvin:
Wow, well it makes my lineup then, more extensive even than I might've thought, and just incredible seamless work. Should've made the shortlist, along with its sound really.
Rating and thoughts for Polly Draper in Shiva Baby? She’s my runner-up for Supporting Actress actually.
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