Saturday 3 July 2021

Alternate Best Actor 2015: Tom Courtenay in 45 Years

Tom Courtenay did not receive an Oscar nomination, despite winning the Silver Bear, for portraying Geoff Mercer in 45 Years. 

45 Years focuses on the upheaval, due to an unlikely discovery, that besets a long married couple just before their 45th wedding anniversary. 45 Years is a film actually where I believe its virtues illustrates its flaws. This as the film too often will shy away from the central relationship to focus upon repetitive scenes of supposed contemplation of our female lead, who despite the primary character is oddly simplistic at times. It is an often frustration with me with certain independent cinema where silence is not golden, silence is earned, and should not be overused. 45 Years is an example where quite frankly it often feels like filler. 
 
Although these flaws exist, they hardly weigh down Tom Courtenay, as he pretty much denotes when it is the film is working because it means we will be watching the couple share the screen. Courtenay's character though is intentionally the more distant of the two though it is his Geoff with the most immediate revelation, we witness the film through the perspective of his wife Kate (Charlotte Rampling), essentially trying to understand his reaction to the discovery. Courtenay therefore actually is presented with a difficult challenge in conveying Geoff's reaction to the discovery, while also not exactly being the focus of the film. Thankfully this is Tom Courtenay we are speaking of, an actor, despite his periods of absences from film, never seemed to lose any of his ability to work his magic on the screen. Courtenay honestly being perhaps the least talked about, but in my view the most talented of the British crop of the 60's, and it is a bit of a gift to see him in a substantial role, even if restricted in a certain sense. Courtenay though always has been an actor who actively pulls you into his performances, this as he isn't someone with a typical leading man style presence, rather Courtenay makes his characters so vibrant and real, he pulls you in nonetheless. 

That quality of Courtenay's is ideal for Geoff who the film treats sometimes almost as a pseudo mcguffin for Kate to reflect about. Courtenay though does so much with this from the outset. This as we first meet them as Kate is prepping for their 45th wedding anniversary with a degree of calm eagerness, while Courtenay portrays a man whose head is miles away. His eyes themselves speak towards contemplation not of the present but of the past this as he speaks of his Katya, his old girlfriend who died in an hiking accident that left her frozen in the ice. The new discovery being that her body has been found, preserved, within the ice. Courtenay's speaks of this news with a very quiet anxiety though mixed with certain nostalgia, particularly every time he says "My Katya" Courtenay emphasizes a kind of tenderness that is specific only to a love of his. Courtenay's eyes though portray a man focused on this idea with a fixation upon. This even in his little asides to his actual wife that are more doddering of just the old married couple, however when it comes to Katya, like insisting he go retrieve the body himself, there is this way Courtenay buries this kind of urgency in his delivery. This as he speaks with a technical duplicity of the man trying to act as though the news isn't overly meaningful, while it is clearly everything to him. 

Upon re-watching the film, there is a greatness within Courtenay's work in that he actually manages to be distant seemingly towards Rampling, while actually his performance more so subtly creates the sense of Geoff dealing with the relationship still. This as Geoff speaks more towards the incident, revealing that he and Katya claimed to be married to get around (with the possibility that they really were married), Courtenay again speaks as this news should be nothing. His body language speaks towards a greater concern, particularly as he reveals they had a wedding ring even, and a great touch is Courtenay rubbing the area where he likely wore it. Recounting the whole story, or seemingly the whole story, Courtenay balances his delivery again. This between accentuating the little asides as though he is sharing something as a concerned husband trying to connect with his wife, while Courtenay though still runs through the story in an interesting way. This as Courtenay suggests within his own work that Geoff himself is unsure how he wholly feels about what had happened. There is the point that it was not pleasant, but what exactly he lost within it is more so even a mystery within his own work due to what it is where his life went. Courtenay avoids being vague, as I think was very possible in the part, by finding the right nuance within Geoff's own reflection. 

I have a feeling the film actually wanted Geoff to be more of a mystery given the limitations of his dialogue, again to more so leave us within Kate's perspective of wondering about Geoff, a mean a good chunk of Rampling's screentime is devoted to pensive looks at Courtenay. This is even to the point that often times there are scenes where Courtenay is off to the side, or the other side of a rarely given reaction shot. Courtenay even when literally absent from the frame though stays present. This as he successfully does share the tender moments with Rampling that suggest their 45 year long marriage, even while that weight upon the man remains a constant. A notably great actor given that Courtenay can convey the moments of connection, and distance, even when it is just his voice, or mostly the back of his head. Courtenay though never wastes an ounce of himself really. This keeping the conflict alive within even in a dinner scene where it is mostly not Courtenay in frame. His positioning of self, and the way he hangs his head, tightens his shoulders still accentuates the man's uneasy state. Courtenay manages to convert this though of more a crisis of his age, this again in a scene where he's almost blurred in car ride as he speaks to a former commie friend now a money obsessed banker. Courtenay again is compelling in his frustrations aren't just of some reaction to a hypocrite, as there is the intensity of man painfully analyzing where it is that the years have taken him. 

Watching the film again I could only be impressed by the complexity in Courtenay's work despite again the writing leaving the potential for an entirely vague presence within the film. Courtenay's work though refuses to be a device and crafts instead his own man, and really his own scenario throughout the film. This as it isn't a man who suddenly is in love with his old love, rather Courtenay expresses the difficult state of a man contemplating his age, which is represented by the woman he lost so long ago, yet retains what she looked like at one time. This as when Courtenay blares "It's not about Katya" about him wanting to retrieve her body, it is true in Courtenay's work. This as the anger is against his wife who he suddenly doesn't care about, it is rather the frustration of where the time has gone. Now take this just as my theory, however I think this is in a way proven by the ending of the film, their actually anniversary dinner, which I've heard some as some point for interpretation. Courtenay's deft performance though I think properly denies this, as he expresses Geoff in the moment of loving life and company at the party. Courtenay does not perform this as put on, this as he plays every moment with a free expression of joy and without the weight of that earlier contemplation. His final speech is brilliantly performed by Courtenay is that he isn't creating a mystery, but rather complexity. This as his speech combines a sense of the man still living through his aging basically, but also genuine expressing his love for his wife. Courtenay shows that there is a lot going on his mind, but the moment of the breakdown is wholly honest in a man appreciating what he does have. The intention of the film by Andrew Haigh appears to be to make it this kind of a question, while Courtenay's performance seems to reject any such nonsense instead focusing on, what should've been the whole film, that being these two people in their twilight years. Courtenay gives a great performance, not as a gimmicky enigma, but a powerful portrait of a man bluntly coming to terms with the passing of time after it is so vividly forced upon him.

91 comments:

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

A brilliant performance by one of the all-time greats, even though the film itself seemed to try its hardest to thwart him from giving it.

Louis: Your rating for Rampling?

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Luise Rainer as an actress?

RatedRStar said...

Tahmeed: I agree, I only think this film is OK for that reason, why a 2 time Oscar nominee is cut out from the film so often, this should have been a chance for a third and final Oscar nomination for Courtenay.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Hey there... Georgy Girl =D, Swinging down the street so fancy-free, I think Ramplings best ever work was alongside Redgrave, Mason and Bates, what did you reckon to Rampling in Georgy Girl?


Mitchell Murray said...

Now I don't feel nearly as guilty for giving Rampling a 4; Although I do like her work to a degree, I always felt Courtenay was more memorable in what is technically the more layered role. It's one of the quietest, but also one of the most authentic acting turns to come out of 2015.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I'm so, so annoyed with how Haigh refuses to give him hardly any close ups or mid shots that focus on his face. Like, I get it. The conceit is that Rampling is the sole POV in the most literal way he could do short of shooting it like a FPS. 91% screentime, according to that one website!. But it felt so disrespectful to Courtenay given the effort he put into this role. When an actor is doin THIS, you don't undermine it for a gimmick.

Matt Mustin said...

Brilliant performance, and I also agree it's weird the way the movie treats him.

Matt Mustin said...

And the way the ending is played is strange, because again, I agree, Courtenay leaves no mystery.

Robert MacFarlane said...

My interpretation of the ending is less that there's a mystery so much as Rampling just can't bring herself to forgive him.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Great review, Louis!

Probably should have posted this a when I saw this but I finally watched Dead End (1937), thus I now have seen all the performances of the second batch of Supporting Actress nominees. For my ranking it currently looks like this:

1. May Whitty (4.5)
2. Claire Trevor (4.5), though she could switch with Ms. Whitty
3. Andrea Leeds (4)
4. Alice Brady (4) She could go down a smidge, but it won't affect her placement
5. Anne Shirley (3/3.5)

My overall winner that year is probably Lucille LaVerne, though.

Matt Mustin said...

Binged the first 3 episodes of Loki (saving the 4th for later) and I am LOVING this show.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Since it's more cinematic than a comedy special, do you think you'll be checking out Bo Burnham: Inside?

RatedRStar said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: You should give 36 Supporting Actress a try, I can't believe IMO that the first ever Supporting Actress winner should have been a child performance lol.

Mitchell Murray said...

Random note, here, but I started watching season 4 of "My Hero Academia" this morning...

I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before, but one of my favourite aspects of the show is it's almost zany sense of humour; I like that for a series about people born with literal quirks, a lot of the show is pretty quirky itself.

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Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on “One Kind of Love” from Love & Mercy’s soundtrack?

Also, your thoughts on that films’ production design.

Tim said...

your top 10 worst decisions made by the SAG Awards?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RatedRStar: I'm actually gradually going through that, and have already seen Maria Ouspenskaya (small part but great) and Alice Brady (a bit off at times, but that is the point, even though Gail Patrick should have been nominated over her).

I even bought These Three (mostly because I'm an enormous fan of Miriam Hopkins), but I'm waiting until I watch Barbary Coast, so I can end my
Miriam Hopkins/Joel McCrea movie experiences with something as fascinating as These Three sounds.

Just taking my sweet time haha

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: The season 4 ending theme is also my favourite out of all the ones they've done. I won't spoil anything plot wise, but the show does hit some of its greatest heights in this season if you ask me.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: I'm looking forward to that, then, although I will say "Polaris" is probably my least favourite OP thus far (first being "Peace Sign", followed by "The Day" and "Odd Future").

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Speaking of the show, actually, if one was trying to make potential match ups with it's characters (in regards to versus debates), are they're any you could think of?

The versus series I'm into ("Death Battle") already gave us two perfect ones: All Might Vs Might Guy and Shoto Vs Zuko. I've also seen people discuss All for One Vs Toichiro, along with several opponents for both Deku and Bakugo.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Oh, and here are my ranking of the other years I completed.

1939:

1. Olivia de Havilland/Hattie McDaniel (5)
3. Geraldine Fitzgerald (4.5)
4. Maria Ouspenskaya (4)
5. Edna May Oliver (3/3.5)

1940

1. Jane Darwell (5)
2. Jund Anderson (5) Incredibly close, though
3. Marjorie Rambeau (4)
4. Ruth Hussey (4)
5. Barbara O'Neil (3.5) Ask 2014 me, and she'd have a 4.5...

1942

1. Agnes Moorehead (5)
2. Gladys Cooper (5)
3. Teresa Wright/May Whitty (4) Undecided on who I love more)
5. Susan Peters (3.5)

1945

1. Ann Blyth (5)
2. Anne Revere (4)
3. Angela Lansbury (4)
4. Eve Arden (4)
5. Joan Lorring (1.5) Almost a great year, but alas

1948

1. Claire Trevor (5)
2. Jean Simmons (4.5)
3. Ellen Corby (4)
4. Agnes Moorehead (3.5/4)
5. Barbara Bel Geddes (3)

1950

1. Celeste Holm (5)
2. Josephine Hull (4.5/5)
3. Hope Emerson (4)
4. Thelma Ritter (4)
5. Nancy Olson (3.5/4)

1957

1. Carolyn Jones (5)
2. Hope Lange (4.5)
3. Elsa Lanchester (4)
4. Miyoshi Umeki (3)
5. Diane Varsi (3)

1961

1. Rita Moreno (5)
2. Judy Garland (4/4.5)
3. Fay Bainter (4)
4. Lotte Lenya (4)
5. Una Merkel (2.5/3)

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Tim said...

am i the only one here who most of the time really doesn't like Thelma Ritter?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Perfectionist_ad_1280: Haven't seen it, but I'm always up for more of Cruise on the blog. He might be absolutely nuts, but he's a damn good actor who I think we've all come to appreciate more with time.

Anonymous said...

What is your top 20 Glenda Jackson acting moments?

Matt Mustin said...

Oblivion is below average action star Cruise.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Never watched Oblivion, but the title song from M83 is fucking awesome.

Matt Mustin said...

Yeah, the score's great.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Tim: It's not really shown here, but I generally have very good opinions on her work, and she's easily among my favorites, but I see why others aren't too keen.

BRAZINTERMA said...

I'm just writing my previous comment because people hadn't seen it and I also didn't believe that a new post would come. Anyway, tell me which were the best from 2021 so far...

SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Polly Draper - Shiva Baby
SUPPORTING ACTOR: Fred Melamed - Shiva Baby
LEAD ACTRESS: Jasna Đuričić - Quo Vadis, Aida?
LEAD ACTOR: Lakeith Stanfield - Judas and the Black Messiah
DIRECTOR: Jasmila Žbanić - Quo Vadis, Aida?
PICTURE: Quo Vadis, Aida?

And which ones were the best for you so far?

Robert MacFarlane said...

BRAZINTERMA: I posted this last thread, but I changed one:

Picture: Bo Bunrham: Inside
Director: Bo Burnham for Bo Burnham: Inside
Actor: Bo Bunrham in Bo Burnham: Inside
Actress: Rachel Sennott in Shiva Baby
Supporting Actor: Colman Domingo in Zola
Supporting Actress: Amy Seimetz in No Sudden Moves

Shaggy Rogers said...

Brazinterma:

Picture: Judas and the Black Messiah
Director: Bo Burnham (Bo Burnham: Inside)
Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas and the Black Messiah)
Actress: Vanessa Kirby (The World to Come)
Supporting Actor: David Harbour (No Sudden Moves)
Supporting Actress: Olga Merediz (In The Heights)

Calvin Law said...

PICTURE: Quo Vadis, Aida?
Director: Jasmila Žbanić - Quo Vadis, Aida?
Actor: Daniel Kaluuya - Judas and the Black Messiah
Actress: Jasna Đuričić - Quo Vadis, Aida?
Supporting Actor: Benedict Wong - Nine Days
Supporting Actress: Nora Arnezeder - Army of the Dead

Great performance by Courtenay, though it seems like I'm the most positive on the film on here.

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: I actually like the film a lot. But I also appreciate that Courtenay tried something different with the material and made it work.

Calvin Law said...

Matt: Oh no doubt, though personally I don't think Haigh's direction is that out of sync with what Courtenay is doing. Then again, I'm kind of a long silences apologist for films in general I think.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Out of curiosity, does anyone know where I can find "A Ship Comes In" from 1928. YouTube only has three of the five parts readily available to watch. I could wait for whenever TCM decides to air it... but I'm impatient.

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Robert MacFarlane said...

Love Bale, but Pearce is still better.

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Anonymous said...

It's good to be passionate, but let's not shove our opinions down Louis's throat. It's his ranking at the end of the day, and we should respect that.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: A 5 rating for a favourite performance of mine would be more than enough.

Sean Ingram said...

Anonymous: I am shoving absolutely nothing in his throat, just advising him. This blog is literally made to give all of our suggestions to him and I am doing exactly that in a respectful way. I respect his opinions a lot. He is a really intelligent dude with justifiable and elaborated opinions.

Mitchell Murray said...

Bit of a offbrand question, here, but does anyone have thoughts regarding an actor's use of steroids/PHD's to prepare for certain roles?

Personally, I could name a number of celebs I suspect have taken them at some point (Hugh Jackman, Tom Hardy, etc..), but at the same time, I wouldn't take the moral high ground by criticizing their choice to do so. Ultimately, it's their personal responsibility if they choose to use gear, although I do wish there was more of a blunt honestly regarding people who've used them, as opposed to hiding behind the debunked "chicken/broccoli/rice" protocol.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: For my money it’s not like sports where they do it to cheat (Barry Bonds can fuck off, Hank Aaron is still the REAL home run champ). They do it for our entertainment and preconceived notions about body standards. I wish they would be more up front about it instead of “lol, healthy diet and exercise for a year). Bullshit, Chris Pratt, we all saw you on Parks and Rec before Guardians.

The again, some actors are just naturally swole. I’ll never forget the confused roar I let out when I saw William Jackson Harper take off his shirt on The Good Place.

Emi Grant said...

Mitchell: Actors are adults (unless they aren't, but you get my point) and they are responsible for their own choices when preparing for a role, just like you said. If they think it is necessary for them to achieve the right look, then good on them. I personally wouldn't, but then again I'm no actor myself.

I mean, it's not like those are unfair performance enhancements. Those simply help them achieve the look (and perhaps the mental state?) for them to act out their role. It's fair game. That said, I would definitely have respect for anyone who bluntly admits to using them just for honesty's sake.

Matt Mustin said...

If the performance enhancers are there own personal choice, whatever, but I have a feeling there's more to it than that.

Michael Patison said...

Mitchell: I don't think I really have an opinion either way. Steroids are not good, but it's their personal choice. Obviously it's bad if it's not their choice.

I do think the sports parallels are significantly more complicated and less helpful than at first glance, which I won't get into because this is a movie blog.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: If it helps with the performance and they don't harm themselves doing it, I'm fine with it.

What I'm not okay with is the media coverage given to these insane bouts of weight gain/weight loss and body-building that actors do, with trainers that studios often pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for. Aside from the negative way this can affect those with body dysmorphia, often times, it can overshadow the actual merit and quality of the performances given.

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Richard Donner.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Richard Donner.

Aidan Pittman said...

R.I.P. Richard Donner

Anonymous said...

Rip Richard Donner

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Unchanged.

Yes I plan on checking that out soon.

Daniel:

I like her there a great deal, given she's my runner-up in supporting actress. She's terrific in doing vapid in a way that is abrasive but never too much that she falls into pure caricature. She brings a good nuance there in suggesting the better person nagging within her shallow and narcissistic choices throughout. She has some fine moments in creating the little inklings of a better choice, that she never actually makes.

Bryan:

Not a Wilson classic but a good song that I'm surprised didn't gain any traction whatsoever, though I think the film itself was bungled as an awards player with its Summer release. I think if it had been given a fall spot the song, Dano and maybe even Banks could've been nominated. Anyway the song is a nice sort of blending of Wilson's later styling, more akin to Love and Mercy itself, and his Beach Boys origins with its specific upbeat qualities. This mixed in with his Pet Sounds style of mixing in so many different sounds that is rather splendid.

The production design is some strong period/personal work. Every set is vivid in terms of creating the place and a sense of the characters that live there. Even the way the studio is populated is some strong work, as is little touches like the locks on all his cabinets in the Cusack scenes.

Tim:

Stuck to non-academy consistent choices.

1. Nocturnal Animals - Stunt Ensemble
2. Amy Adams - Hillbilly Elegy
3. Emily Blunt - The Girl on the Train
4. Jared Leto - The Little Things
5. Timothee Chalamet - Beautiful Boy
6. Jodie Foster - Nell (Win)
7. Nine - Ensemble
8. Dev Patel - Slumdog Millionaire
9. Nicole Kidman - The Paperboy
10. Oprah Winfrey - The Butler

Perfecitionist:

Doubtful. My "One and done" comment in my original review was speaking towards having re-watched the film multiple times at that point. I liked it the most the first time I watched it, but the effect of its satire via purposeful extreme artifice wore thinner on each subsequent re-watch.













RIP Richard Donner

Luke Higham said...

RIP Richard Donner

Emi Grant said...

R.I.P. Richard Donner

Tim said...

R.I.P. Richard Donner

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Luise Rainer as an actress?

I think she has kind of a negative reputation as an actress today and is often dismissed as being just an over the top actress. Do you think this is a fair assessment?

Also:
Top 10 best decisions made by the SAG which were not made by the academy?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Citation needed.

I have to admit I've only seen her Oscar winning work, but nonetheless both reveal a talented actress with a decent range. This from her luminous turn in Ziegfeld, where she brings a nice elegant life though with just enough of a pathos in her final scene, and The Good Earth, where while dated in an obvious sense, granted a great deal of dignity and nuance towards that role. From those performances alone her work to the Golden era should not be easily dismissed.

1. Pam Grier - Jackie Brown
2. Tim Robbins - The Shawshank Redemption
3. Jake Gyllenhaal - Nightcrawler
4. Tom Hanks - Captain Phillips
5. Marion Cotillard - Rust and Bone
6. Amy Adams - Arrival
7. Johnny Depp - Pirates of the Caribbean (Win)
8. Javier Bardem - Skyfall
9. Robert Duvall - Get Low
10. Jim Carrey - Man on the Moon

Anonymous said...

I said that her reputation was kind of negative based on this article Ebert wrote about her:
https://www.rogerebert.com/features/luise-rainer-1910-2014

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

That was not written by Roger Ebert, that is one Dan Callahan, who apparently thinks it is in good taste to bash someone's accomplishments on the day they died.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry for the mix-up

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Watched The General Died at Dawn, and it's a rather underwhelming variation of Shanghai Express, and it's quite dull and borderline mediocre. Solid editing though.

Cooper: 3 (A bit on the bland side, but the dialogue fits him best.
Carroll: 2.5 (the Dietrich of this movie, but greatly lacking in every regard)
Tamiroff: 2 (THIS was worth of an Oscar nomination? At least he didn't go overboard??? Really trying here...)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Oh and Porter Hall is a 2.5

Anonymous said...

How would you rank these actresses:
Kate Winslet, Holly Hunter, Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Julianne Moore, Amy Adams, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Emma Thompson, Laura Dern, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett, Isabelle Huppert, Katherine Hepburn, Gwyneth Paltrow, Nicole Kidman, and Viola Davis

HTT said...

RIP Richard Donner

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: your ratings and thoughts on Catherine Keener and Cameron Diaz in Being John Malkovich?

Emi Grant said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Succession Season 3 teaser?

Matt Mustin said...

Richard E. Grant MVP of the latest Loki episode.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

I feel I've given those before at some point.

Emi Grant:

Looks expectedly great "That sounds like kinda dramatic Tom" and the Giant exchange at the end suggests nothing has been lost. Also knew the direction of the season based on the finale of 2, but love where it could with that.

Matt:

Indeed he was, hope they stick landing with the show.

Tim said...

your ranking of Ang Lee films?

HTT said...

RIP Robert Downey Sr.

Anonymous said...

What is your top 25 American actresses?

Anonymous said...

What is your top 10 against type performances by actresses?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your Kurosawa ranking?

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: i can't find them anywhere

Anonymous said...

How would you rank the four acting categories in terms of the quality of wins as well as the quality of nominations in general?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Hunter, Huppert on top, then it gets tough to parse.

Tim:

1. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
2. Life of Pi
3. Sense and Sensibility
4. Eat Drink Man Woman
5. The Ice Storm
6. Brokeback Mountain
7. Hulk

Unknown:

Charlize Theron - Monster
Holly Hunter - The Piano
Geraldine Page - Sweet Bird of Youth
Barbara Stanwyck - Double Indemnity
Mary Tyler Moore - Ordinary People
Edith Evans - The Whisperers
Shelley Winters - A Place in the Sun
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Gene Tierney - Leave Her To Heaven
Amy Adams - The Master

Tahmeed:

Again like PTA and Hitchcock there is a top tier that is a bit interchangeable.

1. Rashomon
2. High and Low
3. Seven Samurai
4. Ran
5. Yojimbo
6. Ikiru

Top Tier

7. Throne of Blood
8. Kagemusha
9. Sanjuro
10. Stray Dog
11. The Hidden Fortress
12. Red Beard
13. Drunken Angel
14. The Bad Sleep Well
15. Dersu Uzala
16. One Wonderful Sunday
17. The Quiet Duel
18. I Live in Fear
19. Madadayo
20. Scandal
21. The Lower Depths
22. The Men Who Tread on the Tiger's Tail
23. Dodesukaden
24. Rhapsody in August
25. The Idiot (Should re-watch this one)
26. Sanshiro Sugata
27. The Most Beautiful (The only film I'd consider bad on this list)

Lucas:

Well then to reiterate. I rather like Diaz there actually who I think effectively goes against type, being genuinely frumpy not so much the hair-styling, though that helps, but rather through her performance. This in just her manner is interesting in that it is so anti-Diaz in the typical sort glamours allure is completely gone in favor of an emotional awkwardness. The key of her work though is find some honesty in this state that adds to the sense of the woman basically searching for love and identity in a way. Keener's fine, I've never quite understood the adoration for her there. She has nice cutting quality in her dismissive remarks, and enough generalized vivaciousness however I've never gotten more from her than that. She's not bad, but I definitely would've nominated Diaz over her.

Sean Ingram said...

Louis, I have a question... Which performance do you think out of Joaquin Phoenix in The Master and Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler is objectively better?? These are my top 2 most favorite male performances from the past decade with Mikkelsen in The Hunt being a close third. These three just blew my mind. I personally give Gyllenhaal a little edge here because of how he just seems so unbelievably and convincingly inhumane without any forced intimidation. Like he is just SO unsettlingly believable. The most impressive thing is that his entire performance is just SO subtle, soft spoken and nuanced throughout without any loud, pretentious and showy Oscar scene yet he immediately makes such a huge impact once you finish watching the movie.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well, I finished the fourth season of "My Hero Academia" this morning, and I'm once again reminded why I like the show. It's another strong continuation of the series that's enjoyable in it's creative powers and humour, as well as satisfying in an dramatic/story sense.

Also, given that the fifth season is still underway, I'll probably wait until it's completely done before watching it.

Mitchell Murray said...

On another random note, I did rewatch the 80's action comedy "Romancing the Stone" and the Disney film "Anastasia" not too long ago...

The former I find to be a solidly entertaining watch despite some lesser qualities, along with having my favourite Kathleen Turner performance.

The latter movie, meanwhile, has some fun parts (Christopher Lloyd MVP), but is among the less memorable hand drawn Disney films, and I feel is held back by some inconsistent facial animation and voice acting.

Anonymous said...

Mitchell: Anastasia was not Disney. It was Don Bluth.

Louis Morgan said...

Perfectionist:

While I push back on the idea that all film criticism is subjective, there is no way for me to proclaim either of those two performances are objectively better. Performances in general are harder to consider objectively, though I do think there are some factors there, and it is even harder to parse what one considers the best of the best. That is going to be subjective to some extent because some performances are going to speak to certain people more, and maybe just hit them on a different level. Having said all that, subjectively speaking Phoenix gave what I consider the greatest performance from last decade, while Gyllenhaal gave one of the great performances from the decade.

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: My mistake, although it didn't help my memory that I found it on Disney+, and that it came out the year before "Mulan".

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: Your thoughts on the Gentle Criminal arc in MHA Season 4?

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Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Is it strange that Gentle and La Brava may be my favourite villains in all of MHA?

In all seriouness, though, it was quite taken with both character's backstories, as even Deku states he could've become like Gentle under different circumstances. Right out the gate, it's a rather inspired writing choice for an Anime villain to use social media, as well as shy away from physical violence on principle. From an ideological stand point, he's also a notable departure from the likes of Tomura, Stain and All for One, who mostly seek to illuminate the faults of hero culture, whereas Gentle almost wants to strengthen it indirectly. One can also understand his alliance with La Brava - Not in some creepy kind of way, since she's stated to be 21 (weird as that sounds), but in the sense of two lonely, neglected people finding someone who shares their mindset. The show does a very good job of getting you to like them, which is helped by they're sympathetic backgrounds, the tame nature of their crimes, and the straight up swagger they gave Gentle. Overall, I very much enjoyed their inclusion into the series, and would certainly label them as one of the season's highlights.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Also, might I ask which of the two endings you we're refering too when you said Season 4 had your favourite one?

Side Note: My favourite ending song is still Season 1.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: Not strange at all, I'd even say that they were probably my favourite part of the season, which is funny as it was obviously meant to be a 'lighter' arc after the darkness of the previous one.

I was referring to the first ending of Season 4, 'Kokai no Uta'. Eri's story was something I had been anticipating since I read it in the manga, and that ED did a terrific job of making you understand her tragic circumstances in a minute. Also adore that final shot with her, Deku, and Mirio.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: I also appreciated the imagery to that first ending, even without knowing about Eri or how that storyline would be resolved.

At this moment in time, I guess you could say I'm an anime only guy, having not read a single word of any manga. To that point, there are very few book runs (be it anime, novellas or comics) I'm genuinely trying to seek out - one exception being the "Immortal Hulk" series which I'm rather intrigued with.