Saturday 1 May 2021

Alternate Best Actor 1980: Naseeruddin Shah in Sparsh

Naseeruddin Shah did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Aniruhd Parmar in Sparsh.  

Sparsh is a moving understated film about the troubled romance between a blind principal and a social worker...except *insert standard Louis Bollywood musical number statement*.  

Naseeruddin Shah takes on the role of a blind principal for a school for children who are also blind. We discover Shah’s initial performance that is defined initially by a quiet kind of grace. Shah’s work has a kind of ease and understated warmth about the man. This as we initially meet him essentially trying to recruit a social worker Kavita (Shabana Azmi) to his school. Shah’s delivery of his kind of “pitch” for his work and his school, is a potent combination of a kind of ease within the sentiment, but also a distinct passion for his work. There’s a type of richness in his expression of a man with this sincere appreciation for his career and his method of helping others with his own condition. What Shah’s performance does so well in these early scenes, other than establishing a likable protagonist, is also the experience of the man in this position and as a blind man. There is a comfort in his manner just in this speaking towards his profession and his thoughts. There is no unnatural emphasis, just a sincere delivery of a man speaking from an honest truth that defines the man’s personal passion. 

We see the operations of the school, where Shah expresses the comfort of self in these interactions and experience. We see a man whose blindness does not define him, or at least it appears to not, even as he works specifically within the world of the blind. A crack within this, which I wouldn’t say as a facade more of a specific parameter of comfort, though is found in a moment where Kavita attempts to help Parmar pour his tea. Shah’s delivery of the quick snap at her sharply saying he can do the task himself before returning back to his more affable smile. Shah’s delivery of these moments is essential in revealing the character and crafting depth to the role. Shah’s portrayal of the moment is rather instinctual. It is quick and without hesitation. This isn't really out of character with the affable man we see otherwise. That affable man though has that comfort where Kavita treating him as a blind man changes that dynamic. Shah’s reactions suggest the years of wishing to be treated as any person and not specifically as a blind man in need of help. As harsh as the moment appears he shows a man who has strives for a kind of normalcy, and whenever that is questioned, it is returned to the man on an earlier path in that journey.

This rough patch though seems to be partially satiated as he and Kavita grow closer. Shah and Azmi have a wonderful rather unfussy kind of chemistry. This as there is just a sort of ease in their connection in these moments. There is a sense of care and just really love in these moments of speaking to one another. What strikes through these moments like a sharp whip though is whenever Parmar's abilities as a man are questioned, not by Kavita but anyone around them. These are again portrayed as severe snaps by Shah's delivery that slowly allude to a real desperation created from the man's main vulnerability that leaves him without the innate confidence and comfort he so seeks. This slowly becoming a kind of festering element within the relationship. Shah emphasizes effectively the sense of it as a kind of hanging cloud over the relationship. This as Shah naturally shows the real flaw within the man as he's not completely comfortable within himself, even as he presents so honestly the better qualities of the man when he does have that comfort. What we see though is a natural exploration of the way this relationship, where his blindness frequently comes up, sort of forces this vulnerability out of him that would likely have been more easily hidden under different circumstances. 

There is some comfort just by the mere interactions which both actors realize with a natural grace.  This as it is just a given of the feelings between the two even as the circumstances keep them away from it. This even though cannot last Parmar is constantly reminded of basically that vulnerability through every moment of their close relationship. Shah's portrayal than though is a man sort of balancing his priorities in a way in which the man is able to live with in order to be as his best self. This as even as he essentially forces himself away from Kavita romantically, we see this all the greater passion towards his task to teach the blind like himself. This passion that Shah expresses so beautifully with a clam yet precise manner. There is really an unexpected result in all of this, and so much in this is Shah's careful portrayal of this. This in presenting the man's festering vulnerability that is eased while also in a certain easing away from what it is that drew out that vulnerability. Shah's work creates the right sense of the conflicting emotions that suggest both growth and compromise in Parmar. It is a moving performance by Naseeruddin Shah as he never cheats his character's struggle. He rather potently shows it both in terms of the man at his most inspirational and in his greatest difficulties.

143 comments:

Tim said...

i am just waiting for the day a film manages to break away from the Bollywood Musical Number factor

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Great review Louis, and I am glad that you liked him more than a fair bit.

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on the Chinese restaurant scene, alongside the ending of the film?

Matt Mustin said...

What was the last movie where Sean Connery gave a real performance and wasn't just a parody of himself? Was it Last Crusade?

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Matt:

I think he was always trying his hardest and not just blindly relying on image unlike De Niro or Nicholson

Calvin Law said...

Tim: In all fairness, Louis does like those musical numbers when they feel natural to the story at hand (like Lagaan), it's probably just with a film like this film's tone that it feels a tad out of place. Personally, I don't mind them as much but I completely understand the reservations for them.

Big fan of this performance, glad he got a good rating.

Matt Mustin said...

Ytrewq Wertyq: I...don't agree.

RatedRStar said...

Is it some sort of law or rule where every Bollywood film has to have a musical sequence?

Luke Higham said...

I hope Quinn/Reed are coming up next.

John Smith said...

Music is an essential part of indian cinema and most often it does distract from the story of the film. But they are some gems that pull it of.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The out of place musical sequences in most Bollywood films is why Satyajit Ray is easily my favourite Bengali/Indian director. He doesn't use them too often, and when he does (like in 'Charulata'), they tend to be the highlights of his films.

HTT said...

This is my favorite blog on the whole internet. Louis has such a good way with words. It inspired me to make my own blog named The Golden Tessa Awards. I just released my nominees for Best Score 1995, so if some of you want to predict the winner, that would be appreciated.

Tim said...

your thoughts on Owen Wilson as an Actor?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Would you say anyone from Blackadder has come close to your top ten or fifteen sitcom performances?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Azmi - 4.5(I rather liked her performance for how subdued she actually plays it. This in so much of her work creating the sense of her character's own struggle in her interactions less so often verbally and more so within her reactions. This in conveying wholly the real sense of how she feels both about the man's virtues and his flaws essentially. This in building to the moments of where she speaks out more distinctly as rather notable moments of impact.)

Puri - 4(Found his bit quite moving actually. This in creating this palatable sense of despair. He articulates beautifully fully the sense of the relationship we don't see just through his performance. This creating the sense of the man's loss but also something more painful in alluding to this vulnerability of the relationship as essentially a broken one.)

Tahmeed:

The Chinese restaurant I think really shows the nuance found in the relationship. This as we do get a sense of a more potent and openly affectionate relationship in moments of the scene. This though is as natural though in showing the way the man's sensitivity, of really presumed sensitivity, consistently weighs down really the build towards happiness.

The ending I thought was notable because of how really in a certain sense it is unrelenting in the man having to rather harshly face his flaw in the end. This though with I think just enough of a bright spot in his interaction with the boys, to show a bit of joy the man gets from just anyone not really losing out on life due to blindness.

Matt:

I'd say he's genuinely trying in The Hunt for Red October as well. Post that film though I've only really seen him coasting, though I haven't seen Finding Forrester.

Tim:

Woooooooooow. Had to. Anyways Wilson is a rather limited actor. He can pretty much be only be a minor variation of his given type, that being the Owen Wilson type, which is a relaxed kind of guy. He therefore is best when he's positioned directly within the realm of that type. If he falls out of it, those are usually his weakest turns, within it though he works. He's usually most noted for his comic work in that range, but really he does have a little more dramatic than typically is given credit for, within his type, such as in his Anderson work (other than Life Aquatic which I think shows his limitations in trying to break away from "himself"). He's someone very much who you can't call on for any role, but for an Owen Wilson role (comedically or somewhat dramatically)? Definitely.

Anonymous:

Atkinson could make a play for it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Some interesting data for Rocco and His Brothers: https://twitter.com/MatthewAStewart/status/1383427773230768136?s=20

Calvin Law said...

Huh, very interesting indeed.

Louis: Is there an argument for Salvatori as a co-lead then?

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Most definitely, even though there are patches without him, his story pretty much defines most of the main transitions within the film. I'm moving him over.

Calvin Law said...

I was going to say 'damn another shakeup' before remembering Wallach was already switched back as your win.

Tim said...

your thoughts on Direction and Editing of Frost/Nixon?

HTT said...

Tim, you predicted right, so come to my blog and give me a year and a category (for example Best Actor 1978). You too Calvin.

I have not seen Frost/Nixon yet, but it looks pretty good. From what I have seen it has a documentary style, which I can always appreciate. And I have heard Frank Langella is pretty good too.

HTT said...

I'm going to watch Burning today from 2018. Any thoughts on Burning?

John Smith said...

HTT: Among My 5 favorite film of the 2010s. The visceral impact it had on meme can't be put into words. Just fully give in to the expirence. I feel that is one of the most cinematic expirences I've ever had watching that film. What is real, what is true, there are no answers. Its all about perspective. I don't want to say anymore cause I don't want to spoik it except that I envy you. Which I could expirence it for the first time again.

HTT said...

John Smith: I am 39 minutes in. Really well written and acted. Does not seem all that special now, but maybe that isn't the point. I clicked on Mark Kermode's review of Burning once, and every comment was: "DON'T WATCH THIS REVIEW IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE FILM", so I am assuming that is the point. I don't not watch Kermode's review if you were wondering.

HTT said...

*I did not watch Kermode's review if you were wondering.

HTT said...

John Smith:

Update

I take it back, this is f-ing amazing!

Mitchell Murray said...

I was going to wait to finish the series before commenting, but I only have 23 episodes left to complete "Hunter X Hunter". As previously stated, I will offer my full thoughts upon doing so.

Two other things I'd also like to mention:

1) I did have the chance to watch "One Night in Miami", which I liked very much in general, and felt it was an interesting and well acted historical commentary.

2) "Death Battle" released it's latest episode today - Blake (RWBY) Vs Mikasa (Attack on Titan).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbbcwk0tyPs&t=2s

Their upcoming match, meanwhile, succeeded in bringing out my inner child for a time - Po (Kung Fu Panda) Vs Iron Fist (Marvel).

John Smith said...

HTT:o Happy to hear that. It is a slow burn but the way it unravels is mindblwoing. Worth repeat watching. I did not come to my theory untill my 4th watch.

HTT said...

John Smith: Expect this film to get many Golden Tessa nominations from me.

John Smith said...

HTT: What did you think of Steven Yeun? His performance is goat lever in my view. The entré cast is great though. Everything comes together flawlessly. The imagery is still stuck with me since. Fuck it. I'm rewatching it tonight Xd

HTT said...

Yeah, this film is amazing. Such a captivating and mind-blowing experience. The whole cast is great, but Steven Yeun is a stand-out. He is so good that he maybe will appear in my Best Supporting Actor 2018 line-up, but only maybe. I will consider this film in the categories of:

Best Film
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor (Yeun)
Best Cast
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Foreign Language Film
Best Score
Best Cinematography
Best Editing

But again, I can't confirm that it will be nominated in any of these categories, but I can confirm that I will consider it.

John Smith said...

Louis, could a legitimate case be made that Nicolas Cage is the best actor of his generation. Some of the over the top performances that he given have been genuinely great like his roles in Face Off, Raising Arizona, Moonstruck, Vampires Kiss and the best example being Bad Lieutenant. Then we have the more subdued and sometimes heartbreaking performances he delivers in Bringing Out The Dead, Leaving Las Vegas, Adaption, Mandy, Joe. He has become a great icon and one the worlds most beloved memes, but I feel like some are forgetting how great he can be. He has had some incredible lows but his talent has been showcased over and over again.

P.S I love his performance in Lord Of War

John Smith said...

HITT: Happy you enjoyed the film.

John Smith said...

Louis, when you make the nominees for spurting actor could you please consider Om Puri for his performance in Aakrosh? It's made by the same director who made Ardh Satya which was an Om Puri performance that you enjoyed and it also stars Naseruddin Shah. The where great friends and Shah considers it to be Puris greatest performance, I'm inclined to agree. Its a also a film without a needles bollywood musical sequence hahahaha. I really enjoyed the film.

Anonymous said...

What is your top 10 rom com stars?

Michael Patison said...

What are Louis's thoughts on Lagaan? I've been meaning to get around to it, but haven't found the time. More generally, I've been meaning to find a way into Bollywood and just haven't.

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Well Ron Howard's direction of Frost/Nixon is why workmanlike isn't an explicitly negative term, not that it is a positive one either. Sometimes you want a straight forward, sturdy, chair and a workman can do that for you. That is the case here, and fittingly like his best film, Apollo 13, both are historical films with rock solid scripts. Howard can work with that, and I really don't want to diminish his work here, as it really does play into where a workman works. The script is there, so what Howard has to do is present it in a digestible dynamic fashion. He does so with the most straight forward of decisions in terms of cinematography, production design, shot choices, music choices, you name, and these are all wholly competent, if not more, though very much in the expected route for any such choice. Again, this isn't nothing, he keeps the tension of the debate, he emphasizes the drama in the right moment, he grants the right sense of relationships between the various characters. He hits every beat well in the text book definition of how to make a film. This completely works here, because the script calls for such a straight forward approach that needs less of a distinct vision, and more of a clear avenue in which to realize its potential. The level of interpretation is limited allowing Howard to thrive within a story that really just wants to present a generalized cinematic style reality, which is where Howard's strength exist. Here he isn't reinventing the wheel, he doesn't need to, instead he's just making an absolutely sturdy wheel to carry us through.

The editing, which tightens the script more than a bit, does a good job of maintaining forward momentum, within the progression of the story, and realizing even the idea of the whole debate as boxing match effectively, without overdoing it either. Its little doc inserts are well done as just that as a kind of running narration that wholly works. The in scene editing is all well done in terms of capturing the drama, and the reaction shots, as well as pacing individual moments. All good work. Like Howard's direction, straight forward, but in a way that serves the material.

John Smith:

Well let's say his generation is actors born in the 60's, then I think you got a legitimate claim to make. I personally wouldn't put him number one, but he should be in the conversation. His best work really is the work of no other actor than Cage and he has a raw talent that is all his own. This with one of the great ranges in terms of the stretch between comedy and drama, he can do both, sometimes at the same time, beautifully. He's also someone who typically is at the very least interesting even when absurd. Cage's biggest problem really is his anti-Day-Lewis style non-selectivity leaving him too often poorly served by his material, although unlike many, he's usually still fun to watch even those instances.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Can Cromwell possibly be upgraded for Babe?

8000S said...

Louis: Speaking of Apollo 13, your thoughts on Dean Cundey's work on it, as well as his work on Hook.

Calvin Law said...

HTT: Fuck it, I’m going to rewatch Burning again soon. I love that film so damn much.

Anonymous said...

What is your top 10 "career oscar" wins?

HTT said...

Not to be annoying, but Tim and Calvin predicted my winner for Best Score 1995 right, so I hope they can come to my blog soon and give me a year and a category they want me to do (Example: Best Film 1973).

HTT said...

My nominees for Best Cinematography 1997 are out now! It wold be appreciated if anyone wants to try predict the winner. Winner gets to choose a year and a category they want me to do (Example: Best Supporting Actress 1987)

Anonymous said...

What are your thoughts on the Blair Witch Project?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Have nothing but praise for that performance...but probably not.

8000's:

Cundey's work on Apollo 13 is good very straight forward work. This as if you compare it to Deschanel's work in The Right Stuff you definitely see what can be done with similar material. Cundey's work is going more so for general prestige per the period, but it is good generalized prestige. The shots aren't aggressively remarkable, but they're flat either. They're more than anything functional per the story, but with just a little more to them. This is largely through a few lighting flourishes, that Cundey seems to love in his more stylized work, that are appreciated even if not focused upon the film's straight forward aesthetic.

Hook's an interesting one, and again I think you get the uneven nature of the film even in the cinematography. This as, oddly enough, Cundey's work is by far the best when they're out of Neverland. The scenes of alluding to Hook, or the flashbacks with Peter are some beautiful atmospheric work with again Cundey getting to really play with lighting and doing so in a way that grants a nice mythic and mysterious quality to the film. In Neverland though, during the day scenes, the film honestly feels over-lit with the constant strong glow filling every scene. It's more than a little overdone. Now it is still competently shot beyond that, but those choices very much allude to some of the less appealing of Spielberg's later scenes in a visual sense.

Louis Morgan said...

Unknown:

Hmmm...I'll need some specification there. Do you mean top ten wins that are most obviously career wins, or the best wins that could be considered career wins?

Haven't seen it.

Anonymous said...

I would say most obvious(I feel like that would be a more interesting list)

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: did you watch Koyaanisqatsi recently, because I saw you put it on your top 5 scores for 1983. If so, what did you think of it?

Razor said...

Louis: Thoughts on the main theme for Godzilla and how would you rank Conrad L. Hall's oscar nominations?

Not sure how recent it is but it's nice to see Stephen Boyd win 1959 Supporting. Pretty strong top 5 though.

Anonymous said...

Do you prefer Katherine Hepburn or Bette Davis?

Matt Mustin said...

I guess I'll be the odd man out on this blog and say that I thought Tenet was awesome. It's just a really cool action movie. No I didn't understand it, but I also didn't try to. I took the movie's advice on that one.

Washington-3.5
Pattinson-3.5
Debicki-4
Branagh-3(If you look at this character as the obvious James Bond villain that he is, than this performance works)
Kapadia-2.5
Taylor-Johnson-2.5
Caine-3

Calvin Law said...

I thought the action was great, until the third act personally, where I had absolutely no clue what was going on.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Honestly preferred Taylor-Johnson to most of the other performances. Reminded me of JGL's badass role in Inception. I guess I like him in supporting roles.

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: Once again, neither did I, but I stopped trying to figure it out at all about 20 minutes in. I'm honestly not sure you're even supposed to understand it.

Calvin Law said...

Oh I didn't even mean understanding it, I just meant the editing in the third act obfuscated whatever was going on for me. Not in terms of logic but just whatever was happening. I like action but I also like coherence in the action sequences.

HTT said...

Results for Best Cinematography 1997 are out now on my blog! Tim, Tahmeed and Aidan predicted right, so they can come and give me a year and a category (Example: Best Film 1928) if they want.

Tim said...

Matt: you`re not, i liked it too

Tim said...

i recently saw Brief Encounter and ... it's not like i didn't like it, i did! But i think i just expected a bit more from such a big Classic. I did however think that the ending was a bit abrupt and made the whole conclusion seem a bit hastily done even though it actually is not.

Johnson - 5
Howard - 4
Holloway - 2.5
Carey - 2

Calvin Law said...

Tim: Aw, that's a shame, it's my second favourite film ever and that ending's an all-timer for me. I kind of get you though. Funnily enough it's actually expanded a bit from the original play it's based on, ending-wise.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: My major problem with Tenet would actually be that Nolan contradicts himself: he says “Don’t try to understand; feel it...” yet every other scene after that is burdened with exposition. If it’s meant to be an action style-piece, it needed a more straightforward plot or at least better sound mixing (so we could understand what they’re saying.)

I actually wonder how this would’ve worked if Nolan had directed the film in a cheeky way (“Haha, get it? This is a parody of my films.)

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

No, but given it's a documentary it has never come up before. The score switch was due to originally thinking it was an 82 release, but in fact it didn't get a public release until 83. The film itself falls into "would've been a great short" to me, as the concept you get very quickly then it becomes repetitive. It has a great score, and the images are also great, but at a certain point it loses its power in its almost an hour and a half runtime. Whereas in a half hour, or even 45 minutes, I think you could've appreciated the juxtapositions of simple beautiful nature and complex modern world without losing its potency after awhile, which is the case for the full film.

Razor:

I mean one of the original iconic themes that has stood the test of time, from a period where that time of thematic work was less frequent. This now stands as something where it instantly evokes the character the moment you hear it. It's also just a properly, for the lack of a better word, "epic" piece. This with just the strings basically in this fervor while crafting that extremely memorable melody that creates a sense of an innate grandeur but also tension.

1. In Cold Blood
2. Road to Perdition
3. American Beauty
4. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
5. The Day of the Locust
6. The Professionals
7. Tequila Sunrise
8. Searching for Bobby Fischer
9. A Civil Action

Unknown:

1. The Greatest Show on Earth - Best Picture
2. Don Ameche - Cocoon
3. Mary Pickford - Coquette
4. Katherine Hepburn - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
5. John Wayne - True Grit
6. Melvyn Douglas - Being There
7. Jack Palance - City Slickers
8. Ingrid Bergman - Murder on the Orient Express
9. Paul Newman - The Color of Money
10. Al Pacino - Scent of a Woman

Probably Hepburn, though the two are very similar to me in that they are usually a little hit or miss overall. And when they miss it is actually usually very similar in terms of falling into "over accentuation" theater. When they're great though, they're great.

Luke Higham said...

Unrelated but fuck yes, Chelsea are in the Champions League final. :)

Bryan L. said...

Louis: In hindsight, how much of a factor do you think the lack of “on-the-field” campaigning played during the recent awards season? (I.e. luncheons, events, parties, etc.)

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

I think it made a major difference as the film themselves really had to do the talking, and in turn you really just had a series of great wins. I think something like News of the World definitely would've gotten in via campaign, and I think Youn/Minari might've suffered as well judging by A24's recent troubles awards wise otherwise. I really don't think McDormand would've won either, as the fact that she wasn't campaigning didn't matter, because the most important campaign this time was just watching the film.

Calvin Law said...

While I’m glad it didn’t make it in anywhere major, I’ll admit I do enjoy your snarky tone whenever discussing News of the World, Louis. It’s what it deserves!

Mitchell Murray said...

Random question for everyone: Who would you cast as Nathan Summers IE Cable in a live action film? I know we already got Josh Brolin in "Deadpool 2", and he was a solid if easy choice, but I'm sure there's others who could do the role well.

Incidentally, I wouldn't mind if they actually did a movie about Cable; There's a lot of cinematic potential in his backstory and powers, which we maybe got 0.1% of in the aforementioned "Deadpool 2".

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, on another random note, I revisited "Looper" tonight and still find a great deal to like about the film. It's simply one of those "all around good" movies, provided you don't wish to pick apart it's premise. An invested Willis performance also helps things, of course.

Anonymous said...

Mitchell: Brad Pitt was originally cast as Cable, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts (but he would end up as split-second cameo Vanisher). Don't know if he'd be a good choice though.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What would be some actors that were known for the wrong roles? For example, Jack Nicholson's best performances are by far Five Easy Pieces, Chinatown and Cuckoo’s Nest, but (at least where I live) he's MUCH more known for Batman, The Shining and A Few Good Men (mainly because of the “you can't handle the truth” scene).

Calvin Law said...

Honestly I think Brolin feels pretty perfect as Cable.

Anonymous: Agreed on Nicholson. I'd probably add foreign actors working in Hollywood, at least within the Western world, where Lee Byung-hun is probably best known for being Storm Shadow, etc. (although funnily enough, the one individual who I feared would fall into this, Mads Mikkelsen, has been helped in part by Hannibal being quite a big deal so at least he's known for a great role).

Mitchell Murray said...

Calvin: Brolin was an excellent choice, don't get me wrong, but he also wasn't a really surprising one; As in, when you hear that Brolin's been cast as a gritty antihero, the expected reaction may be "yah, that makes sense" rather than "huh...I didn't think they'd choose him". I'm just curious about the other actors people may have liked to see in the role, beyond or including those teased by Deadpool.

That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to Brolin starring as the character in the solo film. My main wish, in that case, would be that they try and explore the full range of Cable's power and experiences.

Mitchell Murray said...

As for Pitt as Cable...that's going to be a hard no for me, I'm afraid.

Ira said...

What would you say are the top 10 career wins that lined up with deserving work?

Tim said...

apparently, Mark Strong was the second choice for Anton Chigurh. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Louis: If GOT hypothetically ended after season 6, how much higher do you think it'd be on your favourite shows list.

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

Brolin would do just fine even in a more overtly dramatic film.

Anonymous:

Elliott Gould (Friends)
Richard Harris (Harry Potter)
Brad Dourif (Chucky)
James Woods (Family Guy)
Jeremy Irons (The Lion King)
Willem Dafoe (Spider-Man)
Robert Pattinson (Twilight, he's still getting over that "stigma" with some of the general public evidenced by some of the reaction to his Batman casting)
Also Nicolas Cage and Christopher Walken, though for them it isn't a specific role rather their generalized presence.

Ira:

See if they're deserving I would say they're not career wins. For example, like Alan Arkin winning, I'd say Murphy would've been more so the career win and Arkin won on passion for his film/performance. James Coburn for Affliction was an against type dramatic leap for him. People try to argue for Scorsese for The Departed as well, but look at that lineup. Eastwood was NOT going to win just 2 years later after winning for a foreign language film. Frears wasn't winning for The Queen of all films. Greengrass's surprise nod wasn't taking it, and Babel was a case of just decreasing support throughout that season. Scorsese would've won there regardless.

Tim:

Mark Strong I think can carry that same type of ethnic ambiguity that added to Bardem's presence, and I do think he certainly would've had that cold stare down. Bardem though was pitch perfect so it is difficult to see anyone else in that role, Strong though I think definitely would've delivered a good performance, though perhaps something not quite as iconic.

Anonymous:

Impossible. GOT is not like most other tv series that went off the rails. I can enjoy Sherlock up until the last season still for example or Seinfeld before the finale, because the good is far more self-enclosed. With GOT there isn't a clear and easy dropping off point because so much of the series was about the build up towards the "epic" conclusion. The fact that it was terrible sours all the build up that came before ruining so much of the series. Very few characters, and story-lines were resolved well, so it doesn't matter that they were good at one point, because the train each time fell off a cliff.

Mitchell Murray said...

One final note regarding Cable - what would be everyone thought's on this video involving the character?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmOzciqJnuE

I personally think they did a good job representing him and the other character, while still poking fun at them both.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Hmm, thoughts on "Against All Odds" and "The Night King" from GOT's score?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Have you ever seen any of Everybody Loves Raymond?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your updated ten worst animated films.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could Yeun take the win for 2018 Supporting? It's pretty neck and neck between him and Bill Heck for my personal winner.

Tim said...

your Top 10 Woody Allen Screenplays, that you've seen?

Shaggy Rogers said...

Good to see Stephen Boyd win in 1959, so William Wyler is yet another director who managed to give victories for best supporting actor and best lead actor (Terence Stamp) on this blog.

Tahmeed: I agree. Yeun win 2018!

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Glad to see Boyd take the win, his and Schildkraut's snubs will always be baffling to me.

Louis: What won Boyd over for you, and has Heston gone up.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well guys, I've finally completed the last two arcs of "Hunter X Hunter". And for as much time as that took, I've grown even more admiration for the series overall. This is as the "Chimera Ant" arc in particular covers a lot of ground, with a remarkable lack of filler, and expands on much of the ideas and build up before hand. The show already has a prominent following, and now I'm happy to include myself among the ranks, and for it being one of the few Shonen Anime's I've viewed in full.

Mitchell Murray said...

On a separate note, I also watched "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" for the first time today. For as conventional and dated as the film is in some areas, I still found it to be a fine effort in general, with most of it's dramatic and comedic moments paying off.

DiCaprio - 4
Depp - 3.5
Cates - 3.5
Lewis - 3
Reilly - 3
Schellhardt - 3
Harrington - 3
Steenburgen - 2.5
Glover - 2.5

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: What made put Ben Kingsley above Taika Waititi in 2010 Supporting?

Tim said...

Mitchell: I'd go higher on Darlene Cates

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well as dumb as the series got in almost every way, Ramin Djawadi always brought his best to the bitter end. This in particular his fantastic use of specific themes and playing around with them. Against All Odds being beautifully used in that sense in a particularly epic and heroic, if also kind of mythic variation. This with the Targaryen theme surrounded by basically the White Walker theme.

Night King is also a brilliant bit. This in taking this solemn minimalist opening of the few piano keys and building up brilliantly in a similar, though also just equally effective way, as Light of the Seven, even if the scene itself is considerably weaker. This as it slowly builds as this most epic of the epic variations of the main theme, this taken to another level, with additional material that is fantastic in all its own. If only the sequence was as satisfying as the scoring of it.

Anonymous:

Just random bits of a few episodes.

Bryan:

Not sure that has changed.

Tahmeed:

It is a very thin margin, but it is a margin for me still for 2018.

Tim:

1. Crimes and Misdemeanors
2. The Purple Rose of Cairo
3. Love and Death
4. Take the Money and Run
5. Midnight in Paris
6. Radio Days
7. Broadway Danny Rose
8. Another Woman
9. Annie Hall
10. Manhattan

Tahmeed:

Re-watching it in the theater helped, but I already had nothing but praise for him. It just sort of forced my hand, he is just so good in nailing the subtext regarding his relationship with Judah, the text of being just a fantastic despicable villain, and giving really an all time great death scene. And yes Heston has gone up, but waiting for 59 revisit to deal with that.

Lucas:

Just upon reflection it is the performance that has stayed with me the most, particularly just how much heart he gives to a seemingly heartless film.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Wait, do you have a Marquee Cinema near you? It sounds like you’ve been doing their weekly (or now daily) Flashback Cinemas deal.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: What about Studio Ghibli’s 2020 offering?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Yes, I do, relatively.

Bryan:

I honestly couldn't remember my original list, but now finding it, yes it would be my new #1 honestly, though again the list really isn't *that* bad since I don't ever go out of my way for bad animation, and will often quit before the end.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Wait, do you live in NJ? Have we been neighbors this whole time?

Calvin Law said...

On the subject of Game of Thrones alumni, I actually think if the film delivers that Peter Dinklage has a good shot at Lead Actor for Cyrano. I know it's not really a trend, but the fact that both actors playing the role beforehand got nominated gives me a feeling this could be his first nom (and he does have support from the acting branches, that much is clear).

Anonymous said...

Louis, has your appreciation for Waititi in Boy declined in any way.

Emi Grant said...

Luke (and everyone else just in case): Have you watched Dark Side of The Ring by any chance? Their third season premiere just took place yesterday and it's probably one of their best episodes yet.

I highly recommend the show to anyone here, even if you don't happen to be that into wrestling itself.

Luke Higham said...

Emi; There's a select few I'll be watching ASAP. Pillman, Warrior and Dynamite.

Shaggy Rogers said...

YES! Kingsley finally wins on the blog!
Waititi is just ok. Taking Louis' rank for me Waititi would be at # 6.

Anonymous said...

Louis: If you haven't given them before somewhere, could I have your thoughts on each novel of ASOIAF.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Out of curiosity, has anyone else who's a fan of Broadway and War and Peace heard/seen The Great Comet? Been listening to the soundtrack lately, and it's incredible.

8000S said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the voice of Patrick McGoohan?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Anyone else been watching Mare of Easttown? Because so far this is the best Winslet has been since Eternal Sunshine.

Tim said...

I just saw Nebraska, and i have really mixed feelings about it. It REALLY takes a while to get going, and the setup of the win in the beginning just seemed very weird to me. For many parts it was just fairly boring and i was sure i would end up not liking it.
But then in the second half, it almost becoes a different film. It has some nice surprises to offer, is at parts really funny and i got genuinely emotionally invested and it ends on a really strong note.
Looks very pretty too.


Dern - 4.5
Forte - 3.5
Squibb - 4
Odenkirk - 3
Keach - 3.5/4

Anonymous said...

I LOVE The Great Comet. It's a great musical that deserved to run longer.

Ira said...

What do you think about this scene from Frasier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ilXxZz1RU

Anonymous said...

Apparently June Squibb will be in another family drama with Richard Jenkins, Steven Yeun and Amy Schumer(?). Honestly pretty remarkable for a 91 year-old to be constantly getting roles (she was in two Disney movies last year alone).

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Not quite, I live in NY, but I have a relative, I somewhat frequently visit who lives in NJ near the marquee there.

Calvin:

I agree regarding Cyrano, and really love the idea of that take on the character, though Joe Wright I have less faith in. Still could easily be a major player, if not even a win. A SAG nominee at the very least seems very likely.

Anonymous:

Not at all. He wouldn't still be #2 if that were the case.

Anonymous:

Well the first three altogether great, though I could use less descriptions of food personally, in terms of create detail to the world, complexity to the characters, and brilliant subversion to the genre however via delving into the grey areas of characters.

The last two though are where there are issues, not that either book is bad, there is still plenty of compelling material however Martin too began to falter, though in a different way than the show, this as there are elements where it felt more akin to wheel turning, and he really perhaps expanded regarding the introduction of certain character, particularly those that led mainly to dead ends. Greatness still to be found in there, in the core characters whose stories he actually let progress, though I think there his pacing went from properly gradual to a touch lethargic at times...much like his writing. I'd probably be more forgiving of the last two if we had complete portrait, but that seems as likely as a reigniting of interest in GOT as a franchise.

8000's:

Love his voice, has such a wonderfully distinct and refined quality. Just exudes a kind of concise intelligence.

Ira:

Hilarious bit of Jacobi, who excels with Shakespeare more than anywhere else, being a terrible Shakespearean actor with every overdone heave.

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous: By all accounts, Jenkins and Houdyshell could be huge players in that. Could be the one setting ensemble piece embraced by SAG this year, I was thinking Mass previously but now that it's being distributed by Bleeker Street, doesn't speak well for its overall chances.

Louis: On that note, do you think that if The Station Agent had been made and released post-2010 that Dinklage could've nabbed a nomination for it, depending on the strength of the year? Because it's notable where he got in already back then, despite not being a household name, and I could easily see that GOT recognition extending to a legitimate awards run for that kind of film.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Well, I’m seeing The Dark Knight there on the 20th, so if I inexplicably see you, I’ll be the dude stubbornly wearing a leather jacket in May.

Anonymous said...

They announced a West End revival of Cabaret with Jessie Buckley as Sally and Eddie Redmayne as The Emcee

Anonymous said...

Calvin: I really hope for an Oscar nod (or even win) for Dowd (and also for her acknowledged doppelganger Margo Matindale, but she rarely does movies). She was robbed of a nom for Compliance, especially considering that weak category.

Also, Blecker Street is a terrible distributor (The Assistant in better hands would be an easy filler nom for Garner), but if they campaign heavily for one performer (like they did with Cranston in Trumbo and Mortensen in Captain Fantastic), there's a chance Dowd or Plimpton get in.

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous: I forgot about those two! And you’re right - honestly getting Mortensen in is an achievement in itself, given its early release. Actually that film making SAG Ensemble as well deserves some attention.

Matt Mustin said...

Uknown: One half of that casting announcement is exciting.

Matt Mustin said...

I'm imagining Redmayne as the Emcee and it is truly horrifying.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top 5 Viggo Mortensen performances.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is the next review coming tonight.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top ten favourite plot twists/reveals in films? Some of mine are:

Your Name
Parasite
The Prestige
Memento
Psycho
Primal Fear
Shutter Island (DiCaprio be damned)
The Sixth Sense
Arrival
Oldboy

HTT said...

Tahmeed:

I know this question wasn't for me, but Psycho is the greatest plot twist of all time and nothing will ever top it.

Tim said...

Tahmeed: you mind if i get in too?

The Sixth Sense (THE GREATEST!)
Seven
Atonement
SAW
Parasite
Arrival
The Prestige
No Country for Old Men
The Shawshank Redemption
Gone Baby Gone
Psycho (even though i got that one spoiled)
Oldboy
Gone Girl
Memento
A Beautiful Mind

Tim said...

Fuck! Planet Of The Apes! I don't even think of that one anymore because it's so well known

Emi Grant said...

Tahmeed: I'll plug in a couple as well.

Se7en (Possibly my favorite)
The Sixth Sense
Parasite
Primal Fear
L.A. Confidential
The Prestige
Oldboy
Psycho
Hot Fuzz
Raw

and a couple of guilty pleasures:
Saw
Saw 7 (fan service at its best)
Dead Silence

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Have no idea how I forgot Se7en, Plummer and Freeman sell the hell out of it.

Tim said...

On a related note, what are some inexcusably predictable Twists for you?

*chrrm chrrm* Crazy.Stupid.Love. *chrrm*

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Insert a stop motion Shyamalan saying "What A Twist!"...In all seriousness, though, I'd concur with most every twist mentioned thus far, with the addition of "The Usual Suspects" and "The Others".

Also, in reference to a less effective twist in a more random film, I watched 2009's "The Perfect Getaway" last night. It's not bad for a cheesy B thriller, but the twist they attempt is not handled especially well.

Zahn - 2.5 (He's the big reason why the twist doesn't work)
Jovovich - 3
Sanchez - 3.5
Hemsworth - 3
Olyphant - 3.5 (MVP)

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I think it's:
1. The Road
2. Captain Fantastic
3. A History Of Violence
4. Eastern Promises
5. The Indian Runner

Emi Grant said...

Tim: The. Incredibles. 2.

I remember actively turning to my mom and telling her who I thought would end up being the villain like 3 minutes right before the reveal.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

It would've been tough no matter what, as the film strangely bottomed out entirely given it didn't even make it into screenplay despite winning the BAFTA that year. That lead actor lineup, which I'm not a big fan of in terms of most of the actual performances, were all "heavy hitter" actors at the time. Depp/Murray/Penn were all in contention for the win. That leaves Kingsley and Law, whose films did well otherwise in nominations, so there's no reason to think Dinklage could've squeezed them out even with a bigger rep at the time, given Law (star on the rise at that time) and Kingsley (always the actor's actor) also had substantial reputations that gave them a boost as well.

Tahmeed:

Barton Fink
Chinatown
Diabolique
Hot Fuzz
L.A. Confidential
Memento
Oldboy
Parasite
The Prestige
Your Name

Only included films where I was able to actually experience the twist.

Anonymous said...

Emi: It didn't help at all that they made her name a pun for "Evil endeavor".

Anonymous said...

Louis what ten Oscar nominations would you say show the most range for a given Oscar nominated actor. As 2 noms for a single actor that are the most unlike one another?

Bryan L. said...

Anonymous: Heath Ledgers’ got to be one of them, doesn’t it?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Actor:

Daniel Day Lewis (My Left Foot -> There Will be Blood, or Lincoln -> Gangs of New York or In the Name of the Father -> Phantom Thread)
Laurence Olivier (Rebecca -> Sleuth)
Heath Ledger (Brokeback Mountain -> The Dark Knight)
Jack Lemmon (The Apartment -> Days of Wine and Roses or Mister Roberts -> Save the Tiger)
Morgan Freeman (Street Smart -> Driving Miss Daisy)
Tom Courtenay (Doctor Zhivago -> The Dresser)
Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of the Lambs -> The Remains of the Day)
Ben Kingsley (Gandhi -> Sexy Beast)
Robert Duvall (Apocalypse Now -> Tender Mercies)
Al Pacino (The Godfather (1 or 2) -> Dog Day Afternoon)

Actress:

Maggie Smith (The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie -> California Suite)
Faye Dunaway (Chinatown -> Network)
Geraldine Page (Interiors -> Trip to the Bountiful)
Olivia Colman (The Favorite -> The Father)
Frances Mcdormand (Fargo -> Three Billboards)
Shelley Winters (A Place in the Sun -> A Patch of Blue)
Marisa Tomei (My Cousin Vinny -> In the Bedroom)
Greta Garbo (Camille -> Ninotchka)
Sissy Spacek (Carrie -> Coal Miner's Daughter)
Holly Hunter (The Piano -> Broadcast News)

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: I think we can stop with that Christopher Plummer joke now.

Calvin Law said...

In an ideal parallel universe Steven Yeun would have (Burning -> Minari) as a contrasting pair *sigh*.

Louis: would you say that 2018 Supporting lineup is one of the weakest in recent memory, with Grant being the only truly great turn. I do like Elliott and Driver’s performances, but they were very much sweeping noms alongside their film, Ali was category fraud and Rockwell was just a waste of a nomination, in addition sixth place was probably Chalamet for Beautiful Boy or *shudder* Carell in Vice. Just seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity in a year where Burning, Buster Scruggs, Shoplifters, Boy Erased, The Hate U Give, Black Panther etc. could’ve offered some stronger Supporting candidates.

Mitchell Murray said...

Calvin: It was certainly the weakest supporting line up since 2015. This will probably be different for everyone else, but I'd break it down as such:

2015:
5) Ruffalo - 2.5
4) Bale - 3.5
3) Rylance - 4.5
2) Hardy - 5
1) Stallone - 5

2016:
5) Shannon - 3.5
4) Hedges - 4
3) Patel - 4
2) Ali - 5
1) Bridges - 5

2017:
5) Plummer - 4.5
4) Jenkins - 4.5
3) Dafoe - 5
2) Harrelson - 5
1) Rockwell - 5

2018:
5) Rockwell - 3
4) Ali - 3.5
3) Driver - 4
2) Elliott - 4.5
1) Grant - 5

2019:
5) Pitt - 4.5
4) Hopkins - 4.5
3) Hanks - 5
2) Pesci - 5
1) Pacino - 5

*2020 omitted as I've still only seen "TTOTC7" and "One Night in Miami..."

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, regarding Elliott in "A Star Is Born", I would describe his recognition as the better kind of "career nod": This is in the sense that he wasn't only in a film of merit and substantial press, his performance was also a proper reflection of his talent, and not just some outlier compared to his previous turns.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

2018 Supporting definitely should have been stronger with Yeun, Bridges and the men from Buster Scruggs. I actually think if those films were released in 2020, they'd have a better shot at awards success (Burning being a sleeper hit and show of range for Yeun, and Netflix could have gotten either Nelson or Waits in).

Say what you want about the last awards season being mind numbingly long and exhausting, but we got quite a few fantastic choices from the Academy for it.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Easily the weakest since the early part of the 10's. Although I'll still take it over some of those, like 2011 in particular. This at least, as much as I don't think they were great performances though good ones, there was a passion for Driver, Elliott and Ali. There was only one perfunctory nominee, and I'm glad the gotten away from the perfunctory nominees where that could be most of the lineup in some other years. The reason I really hate such nominees, where it seems like the academy only had like 7 performances to choose total, is just outside of that perspective there was great work lying in wait. Rockwell got in, why? Because Vice was a major player not because there was any real passion for his performance. Worse is indeed next up was Chalamet's career worst turn and Carell's overcooked work. Again because for some reason that is all that was put forth. Meanwhile if they just looked outside their perspective a bit, a bit outside of probably the big dinner/party/screening campaigns, there was Jeff Bridges, Steven Yeun, The Scruggs boys, Pullman....oh and Nicholas Hoult WTF on him, I mean what's everyone's problem he was brilliant and in a best picture nom....but again I think the sheep mentality takes over, so since the Academy was never given the "go ahead" on nominating him so they didn't.

Calvin Law said...

Oh damn yeah...Hoult.

And yeah looking back at it, 2011 was another case of sheep mentality, especially since there was Pitt, Brooks looking RIGHT at them

Anonymous said...

Has anyone here seen the tv-movie Wit with Emma Thompson?

Anonymous said...

The best actress category is probably the worst at this. There are many years where they seem desperate to find enough boring nominees
Like remember the nominees the year Jessica Lange won for Blue Sky?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Unknown: No, I can't remember anyone aside from Winona Ryder. I had to look up the others.

Anonymous said...

That year was really bad for leading actresses in general (I honestly think if they had campaigned Robin Wright as lead she'd have gotten in), but the Academy chose to make it worse by nominating a bunch of movies no one cared about (really, who remembers any of them aside from Little Women?). Sure, Fiorentino was ineligible, but they could have nominated so many more (I mean Irene Jacob couldn’t get in even when Red got a Director+Screenplay nom?)

Portia Antonia Alexis said...

I like this movie.