Sunday 23 May 2021

Alternate Best Actor 1980: John Savage in Inside Moves

John Savage did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Roary in Inside Moves. 

Inside Moves is a fine, though not substantial, off-beat drama about a man finding an unlikely new lease on life.

John Savage is probably best known as one of the group of friends forever changed by the Vietnam war in The Deer Hunter. Here we follow once again as a man permanently physically injured, though under very different circumstances. We open this film on his Roary going up a building only to jump off in a suicide attempt that leaves him with a limp but he survives. Like his work in his most famous role, Savage from the opening scene excels in internalizing trauma. The opening scene though just wearing the quiet desperation of a man. This is carefully though as he seems focused upon his intention rather than attempting any kind of cry for help. We then follow past the film's introduction to see a "recovered" Roary. Savage's performance in these two scenes alone is terrific work in terms of crafting the sense of time between the two phases of Roary. This as the second man is hardly in a good state, as now instead of that intention Savage embodies an anxiety within him and naturally also depicts his physical ailment that follows him wherever he goes. Savage doesn't depict it as a state of constant despair now, but there is still an unmistakable sadness within his work. It is more muted and in a way seemingly separated as the man is trying in some way to continue to exist, if little more than that. 

Roary's new path we find as he finds solace in a bar frequented by other seemingly broken people including a group of elderly men, including Harold Russell in his sophomore effort as an actor over 30 years after his first, a strung out prostitute, and the friendly, though also injured, bartender with former hopes as a basketball player Jerry (David Morse). Savage's performance is interesting as the lead as it is often this kind of reactionary one. His performance conveys that quiet sense of a kind of distress that defines the man though muted. He's broken in that certain sense yet there's also something very open within his performance all the same. In his interactions with the others Savage's work has this kind of balance to it. This as his eyes are often both expressive in terms of reaction while also shy. He shows a man finding himself in a way and finding himself through listening to others. He's still profoundly changed by what he did, but also in that we see a man in a  way almost on a different wavelength at times that provides a certain empathy in moments. This as we see him becomes friends with the people in the bar, particularly Jerry, and in that Savage presents a man capable of this most curious kind of encouragement. This is something that Savage realizes in a quietly moving fashion, almost his own emotional scars allowing him to express support without any kind of hesitation. 

Savage's performance realizes this peculiar state effectively. This as he begins to become this comfort and better man, while there is this shading in Savage's work that still expresses the greater state of distress that brought him to this new life in a way. Savage though manages to make the "feel good" for the lack of a better description work within his performance. This is because he never skips the step of Roary's own problems as he also shows this kind of interesting perspective the character seems to have because of his past rather than in spite of it. Savage earns this gradual kind of joys we see expressed in his work that he depicts always with the nuanced understanding from where it was that Roary came from to get here. Savage's performance never cheats the narrative or the idea behind the character, which I think actually as written it could've been very easy to bungle the character into someone cloying or unbelievable. Savage though effectively finds the effort within the man's arc. This making so many moments really work through his performance. This particularly in Roary romance with one of the bartenders Louise (Diana Scarwid). It's straight forward in execution, but the key moments of this Savage finds the right poignancy just through his expression of it. This particularly his scene of first kissing her as Savage's eyes convey the crippling shyness of the man's manner, before finally breaking through to the man embracing the woman and really life itself in the moment. The film, somewhat unfortunately, snags into more familiar territory, in overly familiar ways, as both Jerry and Louise seem to move on from Roary. Savage to his credit though never really falls into the lesser material himself. He amplifies it still with that off-beat energy of his that always feels true to the part. This as his confrontation moment even with Jerry later on, who has forgotten his friends despite their help, as Savage manages to deliver the scene with a fascinating combination of anger and sadness, but funneled through a kind of manner of curiosity as though Roary is trying to figure out the moment as he's going through it. This in showing the man finding his footing as he's speaking and finds the confidence with the character in the moment in a rather endearing and remarkable way. That is emblematic of Savage's whole performance that avoids the potential contrivances of the script to give a quietly moving and impactful portrayal of a man finding a new path in his life.

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Luke Higham said...

Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast.

Luke Higham said...

Disappointing not to get a 5 from this lineup.

Anonymous said...

Luke: What is your updated top ten prediction?

Anonymous said...

What is the top 15 actresses with the most range?

Ira said...

Where would you put Katherine,Meryl,Ingrid and Frances on those rankings of actresses with multiple Oscars?

Luke Higham said...

1. Hurt
2. Nakadai
3. De Niro
4. Woodward
5. Sutherland
6. Hutton
7. Thompson
8. Hopkins
9. Marvin
10. Savage

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello folks!
Tell your TOP10 best director, lead actress and supporting actress in 1980:

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
10º Isabelle Huppert - Heaven's Gate
9º Elizabeth Mcgovern - Ordinary People
8º Mary Steenburgen - Melvin & Howard
7º Angie Dickinson - Dressed to Kill
6º Amy Wright - Inside Moves
5º Diana Scarwid - Inside Moves
4º Wendy Hiller - The Elephant Man
3º Cathy Moriarty - Raging Bull
2º Barbara Hershey - The Stunt Man
1º Charlotte Rampling - Stardust Memories

LEAD ACTRESS
10º Isabelle Huppert - Loulou
9º Goldie Hawn - Private Benjamin
8º Vanessa Redgrave - Playing for Time
7º Sissy Spacek - Coal Miner's Daughter
6º Catherine Deneuve - The Last Metro
5º Gena Rowlands - Gloria
4º Susan Sarandon - Atlantic City
3º Linda Manz - Out of the Blue
2º Mary Tyler Moore - Ordinary People
1º Theresa Russell - Bad Timing

DIRECTOR
10º Carlos Diegues - Bye Bye Brazil
9º Richard Rush - The Stunt Man
8º Bruce Beresford - Breaker Morant
7º Michael Cimino - Heaven's Gate
6º Samuel Fuller - The Big Red One
5º Stanley Kubrick - The Shining
4º Irvin Kershner - Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
3º Akira Kurosawa - Kagemusha
2º Martin Scorsese - Raging Bull
1º David Lynch - The Elephant Man

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I left out Out Of The Blue from the films to watch list because it didn't have its first theatrical release until 81.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Morse - 3.5(His performance I thought was occasionally a little iffy as though he was still finding himself as an actor a bit here, which isn't too surprising given it was his debut. Still I think he overall delivers here particularly in his early scenes in crafting an authentic chemistry with Savage.)

Scarwid - 3(I wasn't overly impressed with her here, though I thought she was entirely fine though not more than that. She has a nice decent warmth with Savage and creates enough of a chemistry. I didn't feel she did much beyond that however.)

Wright - 3.5(I personally would've nominated her if one had to choose between her and Scarwid. Wright is effective in creating that quiet anxiety of her character in her very Amanda Plummeresque presence, though she was the precursor. She brings that kind of intensity of vulnerability that is remarkable, even if I feel her character was a little undeserved by the end of it.)

Burton - 3(Always like to see Duke, and I think he acquits himself well here in delivering a different kind of menace.)

The bar guys - 3/3.5(This is why I kind of wish the film had a bit less melodrama in there as there's just really infectious quality to the moments of humor and heart each of them share. Also such a shame that more people didn't try to find ways to include Harold Russell, because again he brings such an authentic presence that is so incredibly endearing. It's a waste that we didn't get more of him as a performer honestly.)

Anonymous:

Well I actually think you can define range a few ways. This as there's emotional range of an actor, as basically how many emotions can they authentically convey. Character range, as in how many different types of characters. And genre range, that's more so can they do big, small, and comedy/drama. Considering all those wrapped into one though...

Cate Blanchett
Olivia Colman
Glenn Close
Marion Cotillard
Wendy Hiller
Isabelle Huppert
Glenda Jackson
Geraldine Page
Lesley Manville
Frances McDormand
Meryl Streep (Don't love her as a performer, but the range is there, I just don't think it is always all that well utilized...same with Close.)
Maggie Smith
Tilda Swinton
Naomi Watts
Shelley Winters

Ira:


Based on the Oscars:

1. Vivien Leigh
2. Frances McDormand
3. Maggie Smith
4. Sally Field
5. Jodie Foster
6. Cate Blanchett
7. Dianne Wiest
8. Shelley Winters
9. Olivia De Havilland
10. Katherine Hepburn
11. Luise Rainer
12. Meryl Streep
13. Bette Davis
14. Elizabeth Taylor
15. Hillary Swank
16. Jane Fonda
17. Renee Zellweger
18. Helen Hayes
19. Jessica Lange

Overall:

1. Maggie Smith
2. Frances McDormand
3. Vivien Leigh
4. Shelley Winters
5. Glenda Jackson
6. Olivia de Havilland
7. Cate Blanchett
8. Katherine Hepburn
9. Sally Field
10. Jodie Foster
11. Bette Davis
12. Dianne Wiest
13. Elizabeth Taylor
14. Meryl Streep
15. Luise Rainer
16. Renee Zellweger
17. Jane Fonda
18. Helen Hayes
19. Jessica Lange
20. Hillary Swank

Anonymous said...

Where would you put Ingrid Bergman in the overall ranking?

Anonymous said...

Louis, how would you rank Kate Winslet's performances?

Anonymous said...

^Anonymous: It's in the previous post. 2nd page.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What is your thoughts on the Eternals trailer?

Calvin Law said...

Gotta say I really dug that trailer. Hopefully it lives up to expectations.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

#6

Anonymous:

I'm impressed that you could sense Zhao in some of the visuals but otherwise looks fine. I'll admit though at this point it is only the idiosyncrasies that generate even the smallest hint of excitement for me when it comes to Marvel films. This had a few, which I liked, but it still looked like a Marvel film overall. That's it will never take enough of a risk to achieve greatness settling for an overly defined goodness instead.

Anonymous said...

Kevin Spacey has been cast in a movie about child abuse.

Ugh I do not think this is gonna go well.

Luke Higham said...

Not surprised, if Polanski can get work in Europe then so can Spacey.

Emi Grant said...

Also, Chalamet has been cast as Willy Wonka for an origin-story movie and I really don't know about that one, chief...

At least is directed by the guy behind the Paddington movies, so, maybe it won't be bad, right'

Luke Higham said...

Emi: Like everyone else, I'm still on the fence with Chalamet and hope Dune gives me some confidence moving forward.

I like that it's Paul King directing as I loved both films so I'll give it a chance.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on Seal's 'Kiss From A Rose' from Batman Forever?

Tim said...

your 80s and 90s cast for Snowpiercer?

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Honestly this is one of those songs that feels so drilled into a moment in time for me it is hard to separate myself from this as this mainstay within the 90's at the time, and to the point of ad nauseam. The song itself I think is such weird song as itself that is kind of this combination between 90's pop and a renaissance fair...held in the 90's.

Tim:

80's:

Curtis: Kurt Russell
Locksmith: Yaphet Kotto
Locksmith's Daughter: Jennifer Beals
Gilliam: Donald Pleasence
Mason: Piper Laurie
Edgar: Aidan Quinn
Tanya: Madge Sinclair
Teacher: Catherine O'Hara
Wilford: Burt Lancaster

90's:

Curtis: Bruce Willis
Locksmith: Wes Studi
Locksmith's Daughter: Sheila Tousey
Gilliam: Peter Vaughan
Mason: Grace Zabriskie
Edgar: Ethan Hawke
Tanya: Alfre Woodard
Teacher: Shirley Henderson
Wilford: Patrick McGoohan

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: To the news about Spacey (no longer referring to him as Plummer because that joke's overstayed it's welcome, and it's frankly an insult to Plummer) - hello terrible irony.

Emi: To the news about Chalamet - Not only am I having trouble seeing him fill Wilder's shoes, I also think Wonka is a character that's benefits from mystery. Trying to give him a backstory is one of the many things that bogged down the 2009 remake.

Tahmeed: For "Kiss from a Rose" - That is perhaps the thing I most remember from the movie, despite me having seen it a number of times. It does help that, in my opinion at least, it's a decent 90s song.

Mitchell Murray said...

On two unrelated notes...

1) I'm now up to date with "RWBY" and will be moving onto the Dark Tournament arc of "Yu Yu Hakusho", which I've put off for too long. In regards to the former series, I've heard a number of varied reactions/thoughts to it and I can honestly see the merit in all of them.

2) Louis: Is there any chance Greg Kinnear could go up to a 4 for "As Good As It Gets"? I revisited the film recently and I always forget how much subtle emotion he conveys, and even how earnestly he approaches the character despite the script's shortcomings.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Oh please let the Wonka reboot be from that awful darker-and-edgier spec script from the 2014 Blacklist. It's one of the worst screenplays I've ever read, and I'd be delighted to see the chaos of it getting made.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Greer Garson as an actress?

Louis Morgan said...

Mitchell:

Probably not by virtue I just don't see myself making time for that film again...not that it is terrible or anything it's just...eh.

Anonymous:

Garson was a somewhat limited actor in terms of range to call back to the earlier list, though I think what was within her limitation was enough there, though it occasionally bordered on a bit of stiffness. She had a presence in that sort of upper crust manner though that could carry a frame if not a film, even if you never got anything too unexpected from her. In fact I'd say her musical number in Random Harvest is probably the most unexpected thing I've seen from her.

Anonymous said...

Louis what ten actors would you say have the best range of comedy and drama and what are the two performances would you say best represent each side?

Matt Mustin said...

I hate As Good as It Gets, but Kinnear is the best thing in it.

Regarding "Kiss From A Rose", I don't mind the song, but it has nothing at all to do with anything in that movie.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Here's a top 15:

James Cagney (Angels With Dirty Faces -> The Strawberry Blonde)
Willem Dafoe (The Last Temptation of Christ -> The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou)
Robert Downey Jr. (Less than Zero -> Tropic Thunder)
Ralph Fiennes (Schindler's List -> In Bruges/The Grand Budapest Hotel)
Alec Guinness (The Bridge on the River Kwai -> The Lavender Hill Mob)
Gene Hackman (The Conversation -> The Royal Tenenbaums)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (The Master -> Along Came Polly)
Raul Julia (Kiss of the Spider Woman -> The Addams Family)
Jack Lemmon (Save the Tiger -> Mister Roberts)
Toshiro Mifune (High and Low -> Sanjuro)
Joe Pesci (The Irishman/Raging Bull -> My Cousin Vinny)
John C. Reilly (The Sister Brothers -> Walk Hard)
Sam Rockwell (Snow Angels -> Galaxy Quest)
Peter Sellers (Hoffman -> Dr. Strangelove)
James Stewart (Vertigo -> Harvey Note: It's A Wonderful Life is kind of a perfect blending)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I also dislike As Good As It Gets, and he's kind of a 5 for me. He and Hunt almost save it. Almost.

Mitchell Murray said...

Robert: I guess my thoughts on the film reflect the ones Louis' stated when he reviewed Nicholson. I won't lie, there are a couple moments I find amusing, and both the leads are fine, but the central romance is one I don't end up buying. Also, it has some more than questionable elements as a 90s comedy, to the point where I can't help but feel "Broadcast News" (and "Terms of Endearment" to a lesser degree) is a weirdly strong outlier in Brooks' career.

And yah, Kinnear is MVP without question.

Matt Mustin said...

I actually think it's one of Nicholson's worst performances.

Calvin Law said...

I'm with Matt on this one. One of his laziest, that's for sure. At least with something like The Departed which I'm not a fan of him there, I feel like he's really going for it, but him in As Good as it Gets is just boring.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Well, full disclosure, I asked for thoughts on 'Kiss From a Rose' due to a pretty awesome scene from Community season 3, which I've been rewatching.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: For a 2000s Snowpiercer, I assume John Lone as Wilford?

Tim said...

seems like a weird, completely random question, but one that needs to be asked:



How do you order your DVDs? Alphabetical? By Year? Do You seperate nominated and not-nominated films? etc ....

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Tim: I usually stream most of my stuff nowadays, but when it comes to DVDs, I keep my all time favourites separately while the rest are sorted more or less alphabetically.

Mitchell Murray said...

Louis: Similar to Tahmeed's earlier question, what are your thoughts on the use of "Sweet Child O' Mine" in "Captain Fantastic"?

Matthew Montada said...

Just watched the trailer for Last Night In Soho! Someone please inject my veins with this movie already. It looks phenomenal!

Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on it if they’ve seen it.

Calvin Law said...

That was a pretty perfect trailer as far as trailers go. Love the aesthetic, and both leads (even without much dialogue at this point) look extremely promising. My anticipation has definitely risen.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Looks bitchin'

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Well ask me "John Lone in any role" I'm going to say yes.

Mitchell:

Beautifully used as a cover rendition that suites the scenes so well, and just is befitting the nature of the character, and particularly the relationship of the family in that moment.

Matthew:

Well, I'm in. Loved everything about that trailer, and my earlier thoughts saying imagine what Wright could do with a great cinematographer...I think I'm going to be able to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH-IifdFfto

Anonymous said...

What is the top 15 actresses with the most wasted potential?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your ranking for 2019’s comic-book movies

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I don't think you've actually ever given thoughts on The Handmaiden's cinematography, could I have your thoughts on it? The more I think about it, Chung Chung-hoon and Hong Kyung-po should both really be Oscar nominees at this point.

Razor said...

Louis: Your top 10 Brian DePalma and Clint Eastwood directing moments?

Anonymous said...

RIP Samuel E Wright.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello Louis and folks.
Now that a month has passed since the ceremony, let's start talking about our first predictions in the main categories for Oscar 2022 ...

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
The Tragedy of Macbeth
Cry Macho
Next Goal Wins
Nightmare Alley
The Power of the Dog

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Soggy Bottom
The French Dispatch
Red, White and Water
Don't Look Up!
Stillwater

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Ann Dowd - Mass
Regina King - The Harder They Fall
Rooney Mara - Nightmare Alley
Marlee Matlin - CODA
Meryl Streep - Don't Look Up!

LEAD ACTRESS
Ana de Armas - Blonde
Kirsten Dunst - The Power of the Dog
Lady Gaga - House of Gucci
Jennifer Hudson - Respect
Jennifer Lawrence - Red, White and Water / Don't Look Up

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Bradley Cooper - Soggy Bottom
Idris Elba - The Harder They Fall
Brian Tyree Henry - Red, White and Water
Jared Leto - House of Gucci
Al Pacino - House of Gucci

LEAD ACTOR
Bradley Cooper - Nightmare Alley
Leonardo DiCaprio - Don't Look Up
Adam Driver - House of Gucci
Will Smith - King Richard
Denzel Washington - The Tragedy of Macbeth

DIRECTOR
Paul Thomas Anderson - Soggy Bottom
Wes Anderson - The French Dispatch
Guillermo del Toro - Nightmare Alley
Steven Spielberg - West Side Story
Denis Villenueve - Dune

PICTURE
Dune
The French Dispatch
Nightmare Alley
Soggy Bottom
West Side Story
The Tragedy of Macbeth
Cry Macho
Don't Look Up!
House of Gucci
The Power of the Dog

While you?
Comment!

Luke Higham said...

I'll wait until after Cannes. However I'm baffled you left out McDormand.

Anonymous said...

Brazinterma: I don't have any actual evidence about this and I may be wrong about it but I feel that Jennifer Hudson is not gonna happen.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Luke: The reason I didn’t put McDormand was that I wasn’t sure which category it would be placed in (lead vs supporting) which in cases like this I keep quiet and wait for the time to set.

Anonymous: After Renee Zellweger and Andra Day were recognized I don't see much of a problem for Jennifer Hudson to be remembered

Anonymous said...

Amazon bought MGM.

Tim said...

Anonymous: well, it was only a matter of time someone did ...

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RatedRStar said...

For some reason Don't Look Up just looks so weird from a premise stand point. I am quite sceptical of that film the more I read about it, it could be a bit of a turkey perhaps.

Matt Mustin said...

RatedRStar: Well, it's Adam McKay, so I have no hope for it.

HTT said...

I forgot to add, on my The Golden Tessa Awards blog, not my other blog which I don't use.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your top ten favourite straight man performances in films?

Anonymous said...

Worse than this year has Mckay and David O Russell

Anonymous said...

I am baffled as to how McKay and O 'Russell get so many talented actors to do their movies.

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: it's not hard to understand at all, they keep getting nominated for everything.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

For some reason that description feels a little harsh to me.

Bryan:

Avengers: Endgame
Shazam!
Joker
Captain Marvel
Spider-man: Far From Home

Calvin:

I mean it is just such stunning, downright gorgeous work that evokes really pristine portrait style paintings of the period. This with such precise and dynamic lighting, but more so the framing and composition of shots that captures such striking and distinct beauty. This with such exact points of focus and usually one choice of color to ensure it pops like no other. Absolutely gorgeous work.

Razor:

DePalma:

1. The Prom - Carrie
2. Train Shootout - The Untouchables
3. Finale - Blow Out
4. Bead of sweat - Mission Impossible
5. Carburetors man - Phantom the Paradise
6. Test footage - Black Dahlia
7. The Killing - Casualties of War
8. Hiding the Murder - Sisters
9. The build up to the blow out - Blow Out
10. Winslow's woes - Phantom of the Paradise

Eastwood:

1. "I'm here to kill you Little Bill" - Unforgiven
2. Confronting English Bob - Unforgiven
3. "We all got it coming" - Unforgiven
4. The first killing - Unforgiven
5. "You were right not to take it Bob" - Unforgiven
6. Torturing Ned - Unforgiven
7. Dying Will - Unforgiven
8. After Will's fever breaks - Unforgiven
9. Final Confrontation - The Outlaw Josey Wales
10. Death of the Sheriff - High Plains Drifter

Nothing against his other work, his choices with Unforgiven were simply THAT good.

Tahmeed:

1. Brendan Gleeson - In Bruges
2. Michael J. Fox - Back to the Future
3. Simon Pegg - Shaun of the Dead
4. Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove (as Mandrake)
5. Simon Pegg - Hot Fuzz
6. Jeff Bridges - The Big Lebowski
7. Jonathan Pryce - Brazil
8. Cary Elwes - The Princess Bride
9. Bill Murray - Ghostbusters
10. Robert De Niro - Midnight Run

Louis Morgan said...

Also somewhat shirking my 1980's duties still and watched Invincible which was great, and caught up with Mare of Easttown (which let's see how it wraps up) though Winslet is unquestionably great at the very least.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Can I have thoughts on your top 6 from The Underground Railroad.

Overall thoughts on Invincible and your favourites from the vocal cast.

Calvin Law said...

Glad you loved Invincible, Louis.

Michael Patison said...

Not sure if I mentioned, but I loved Invincible. Otherwise I've been on a bit of a comedy track lately. Ted Lasso and The Good Place.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What about Dunne in After Hours for the top straight man performances list?

Marcus said...

Louis: How do you think Dan Stevens would fare as James Bond?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I'll do Edgerton last.

Mbedu - (Much of her performance is an emphasis on different levels of anxiety, desperation but also just enough strength. Her performance manages to create this sense of every given scene that she exists in. This in creating very much the human and deeply emotional qualities within the story. The sheer emotional exhaustion of it is profoundly felt. This though she never does over do this to the point of one note. This in finding the right variation given the situational nature of the story that changes constantly but she consistently matches each. This creating the sense of the changing state of the woman that is also occurring beyond the situation. It is potent, powerful work.)

Harper - (His performance is one that very much comes in at the right time so to speak. This as he offers a strong comfort with his performance. This in his powerfully straight forward warmth and even just confidence that creates the right sense of calm really in his scenes. Harper makes you trust that everything will be alright with his performance as he brings just this earnest humanity in the empathy he depicts along with a genuine charm as well.)

Herriman - (His performance is rather fascinating this as a man who is doing a good thing yet is doing so in such a pathetic and desperate way that the good intention of it becomes obscured. Herriman though is extremely effective though in depicting this man almost on this constant state of a nervous breakdown at every moment, aka the worst possible man to look as any kind of personal savior. He brings such a potency within the desperation of the man just barely making it through a given moment and just about to breakdown at any moment. It's remarkable work as he shows a coward who is deeply struggling to try to do the right thing, but that cowardice is always overpowering his ability to do so competently.)

Mullan - (His performance is relatively brief but leaves a striking impact. Mullan's accent work is particularly impressive by the way as it is one of the trickiest and you entirely forget about Mullan doing a deep south accent in a matter of moments. His performance beyond that though is this just fascinating juxtaposition of this potency of a disappointment and moral kind of manner that pierces through every scene. What is so notable about this is how quiet Mullan is in every one of his scenes, yet his way of just going through every scene has such an emotional power to it, it is fantastic work.)

Pierre - (His performance works as a contrast to Harper in a certain sense though in conveying kind of a quieter confidence and support. There's a different shading to his work of a man more beaten down by his own experiences though pushing through them to show strength for those he cares about. He also seems tailor made for the Barry Jenkins closeup though as his face certainly has a power to it all on its own.)

Louis Morgan said...

Edgerton - (This is an amazing performance because what Edgerton does is not do what you'd expect in a certain sense, and in a way why Fred Hechinger's performance doesn't work at all in this one note sort of anti-zealot. This as Edgerton certainly carries menace here as you'd expect as the slave catcher with the inherent sort of intensity he brings in the role. What is so incredible about this work though is he never depicts the role as this sort of "cruel master" rather creates this kind of bizarre illogical self-morality within the man. This as Edgerton creates this presence of a man trying to in a way overpower his own past and present to define himself through some self-crafted morality that would be illogical to anyone else, yet Edgerton makes whole within this one man's twisted mind. Edgerton has such a ferocity of a man speaking his vision of the world that depicts this kind of nihilism that the man uses to power himself in a very strange way and trying to craft some kind of alternative perspective. Edgerton though makes the most then of essentially explaining this in the relationship with the character's father. This where he shows both how the man has developed that alternative reality for himself, but also still the vulnerabilities of the man who never could live up to his father's view of the world either. There is such complexity in the role that Edgerton makes so remarkably tangible and incredible powerful. It is fantastic work this as he does craft a devil but also this kind of devil who is full bodied person on his own, all with his own fundamental desperation though that differs from most of mankind.)

Louis Morgan said...

Invincible I thought was exceptional in offering its unique riff on the super hero genre, having a lot of fun with the idea, but really delivering an unexpected emotional punch by granting a genuine connection to reality though funneled through mythic style of proportions. I was especially impressed, and why the Mandalorian really is a pretty mediocre show, in that each episode is a satisfying vignette on its own, while also successfully moving the main story through. The episodes work as standalone, while keeping an overarching momentum. This is how it is done quite bluntly. Also special mention to the animation which I think finds the right combination between fluidity, movement and style. It's kind of what the newer DC animated movies try to do, however here I think it is far more successful.

My favorites vocal wise were Walton Goggins, J.K. Simmons, Sandra Oh, Steven Yeun and Zachary Quinto, though I thought *almost* everyone was pretty good.

Marcus:

Based on The Guest I could definitely see it.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: did you think that Ridgeway’s apology to Mack was genuine and not done as a sort of manipulation? I’m inclined to think so myself and that scene is a masterclass because it somehow managed to make me sympathise with him.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: what would be your ranking for the cast of Invincible?

HTT said...

The Golden Tessa Awards 1927 are out! Feel free to come and discuss my choices with me!

https://thegoldentessaawards.blogspot.com/2021/05/1927-golden-tessa-awards.html

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis, your cast and director for 1950s American Psycho and 1960s Leaving Las Vegas?

Luke Higham said...

2022 Oscars on March 27th.

Tim said...

your thoughts on the screenplay and direction of Rust and Bone?

Aidan Pittman said...

The Oscars a day before my birthday next year... neat.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Probably the right decision, I think I can handle a month and since 2021 looks like a proper Oscar season with lots of films, the 2020 Oscar season was just way too long, I actually wanted it to be over by the end.

HTT said...

I don't know which year to do next for The Golden Tessa Awards. Does anyone have any suggestions?

RatedRStar said...

February 8th for Oscar Nominations, a month earlier also, much better =D.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Same here.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I think another reason I hated the 2020 season lol I spent far much time trying to get a Playstation 5 for Christmas.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Bad luck mate. I Sympathise with anyone who might not play Horizon 2 or GOW 5 at this rate.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

HTT: Maybe 1989?

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I've got one now fortunately but lol wow that was a mess.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Seems like Terry Silver will be in Cobra Kai IV, thoughts?

BRAZINTERMA said...

HTT my suggestions: 1933,1936, 1942, 1946, 1949, 1952, 1958, 1963, 1966, 1968, 1972, 1973, 1976, 1979, 1987, 1989, 1996, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2014, 2016 and 2020.

Anonymous said...

What is the top 10 best actress wins that you think don't deserve the backlash they got?

Anonymous said...

How would you rank the winners of the SAG best ensemble?

Matt Mustin said...

So, after reading the novel No Country For Old Men and re-watching the movie immediately after, I think I have to call that my Best Adapted Screenplay win for that year.

Calvin Law said...

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly is my choice for that year, but I certainly don't begrudge No Country for Old Men's win at all.

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: In recent memory, Stone's win still seems to get too much hate, I think.

Louis: At the risk of spoiling or influencing these upcoming years, what are the chances of Daniel Craig and Sacha Baron Cohen being reviewed for "Layer Cake" and the original "Borat", respectively?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this Heath Ledger press conference?

https://youtu.be/VpHR1nZ7FsE

Calvin Law said...

Ira: I'll give mine.

Parasite
Inglorious Basterds
Little Miss Sunshine
Birdman
No Country for Old Men
The Full Monty
Spotlight
Three Billboards
Sideways
Traffic
Apollo 13
Return of the King
Black Panther
The Help
Gosford Park
Hidden Figures
Argo
Shakespeare in Love
The Birdcage
Chicago
Slumdog Millionaire
The King's Speech
The Trial of the Chicago 7
American Hustle
Crash
American Beauty

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Calvin: Yikes, I know Trial hasn't stayed with you, but below King's Speech and Slumdog Millionaire?

Anonymous said...

Louis: your updated top 25 joel edgerton acting moments

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: Cohen's definitely happening. Craig will get in if he has a genuine chance of an upgrade or being requested as I don't see him taking the last 2 spots from either Murray or Considine.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the coyote scene from Collateral, with that Audioslave song playing? Always loved Cruise's reaction there which I thought shows his character's apathy towards life in a single look.

Calvin Law said...

Tahmeed: I am probably being a bit too harsh on it due to being annoyed at who it won against. Still I think both those casts are more consistent than Chicago 7 overall, though Rylance gives the best performance out of any of them.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Calvin: Yeah, Minari would have won in an ideal world, it was easily the best ensemble last year.

On another note, having just finished a rewatch of Collateral as well, I'd definitely give Foxx a 4 for it. A 2.5 just seems harsh, I don't think the film would have worked as well as it did if he wasn't up to the task.

Calvin Law said...

Foxx is an easy 4 for me too, I think he's very good in it. Granted, I very rarely have problems with the acting in any of Mann's films.

HTT said...

I'm going to do 1989, but I have a problem. I don't have a winner for Best Editing 1989 yet. So I am asking for help. What are some of the best edited films of 1989?

Emi Grant said...

Tahmeed: That's the only song choice I found a little questionable when I first watched the film. I mean, we're watching this tense action-thriller where things are slowing down before reaching yet another intense scene, then all of a sudden Chris Cornell is singing his heart out on the soundtrack. Same with the reprise after the nightclub scene.

Then again, it's kind of short-lived. So, I don't mind is too much and don't think it intrudes the scene having watched it 3 times now, but I did find it somewhat distracting first time around.

Also, Fox is a 3 for me, because at least I find that his character's arch is still just effective enough through his work, but I think there could have been a much more terrific performance with someone else in his role.

Calvin Law said...

I’ve been thinking a lot about a retrocast pairings for Riz Ahmed and Steven Yeun, and I’ve come to realise the central dynamic for Collateral is perfect for them, and both could take on either role.

Glenn said...

Louis, have you finished Blackadder.

Calvin Law said...

HTT: Last Crusade and Casualties of War stand out for me the most, Fabulous Baker Boys and Mystery Train for more low-key examples.

HTT said...

Thank you Calvin! Does anyone else have any suggestions?

Anonymous said...

I recently reviewed The Stunt Man. O'Toole's performance has improved a lot, I believe he gets 5 and maybe takes out Pesci.

HTT said...

O'Toole is just amazing in The Stunt Man. May be my winner!

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you think we'll ever get The Kidnapping Of Edgardo Mortara by Steven Spielberg.

Bryan L. said...

Luke: I wish that was his upcoming film instead of the West Side Story remake tbh.

Anonymous said...

Luke, who do you think will be Louis’s Best Director choices for 1980?

Luke Higham said...

Lynch
Scorsese
Kurosawa
Fuller
Kershner

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yes I do. I think part of what makes Edgerton's performance great is he doesn't purge Ridgeway of any theoretically redeeming qualities, rather shows how the are part of the broken and evil man.

Lucas:

1. Walton Goggins
2. Steven Yeun
3. Sandra Oh
4. Zachary Quinto
5. J.K. Simmons
6. Gillian Jacobs
7. Andrew Rannells
8. Kevin Michael Richrdson
9. Clancy Brown
10. Mahershala Ali
11. Jason Mantzoukas
12. Seth Rogen
13. Jeffrey Donovan
14. Grey Griffin
15. Chris Diamantopoulos
16. Mark Hamill
17. Khary Payton
18. Zazie Beetz
19. Ross Marquand
20. Ezra Miller

Ytrewq:

American Psycho 1950's directed by Alfred Hitchcock:

Patrick Bateman: Marlon Brando
Detective Kimball: John Carradine
Paul Allen: Peter Graves
Craig McDermott: Cliff Robertson
Luis Carruthers: William Daniels
Jean: Angela Lansbury
Christie: Ann Blyth
Courtney: Gloria Grahame
Evelyn: Peggy Cummins

Leaving Las Vegas 1960's directed by Robert Ellis Miller:

Ben Sanderson: Alan Arkin
Sera: Carroll Baker
Yuri: Christopher Plummer

Tim:

Rust and Bone's screenplay I think you can qualify in the category between what makes a film good between what makes a film great. The film falling into the latter. This as the character interactions are strong, the development of the two leads is well realized, and the world created within the screenplay is clearly defined. Where it doesn't go to greater heights is structurally it is less captivating in itself. It slightly drifts through the scenario, though not in a truly poorly fashion, but in a way that doesn't quite take the film to the next level as written. It's still a very well written piece for all the greater qualities in examining these two kinds of broken people in other ways, earning really the moments technical melodrama, and created a powerful story still.

Jacques Audiard's direction is fairly consistent to his style as a filmmaker from all the other films I've seen of his. This as he kind of sets his canvas in the world of a generalized reality. This in a lot of aesthetic choices he never wants to doubt what we're seeing is anything but a truth. What he does in that though is interesting though in fashioning moments of style even within the sort of "on the ground" approach of so many scenes. This as he will successfully tip his hand so to speak to reveal a bit more style when it serves crafting the emotional experience of the character all the more, particularly that of the moments with Seaworld or any scene in the ocean. He fashions an artful combination of both there to know when to push the emotion essentially and when not to.

Tahmeed:

Not surprised given last season, I'd say things are about to get sillier, which could work, and I hope it does.

Anonymous:

I'd say most of the best actresses wins are rightfully derided that are derided. And I won't really consider any super recent winners because of the nature of the abomination I mean...film twitter.

Anonymous:

Quite impressive actually how well he goes about his response by accentuating a positive within a negatively inclined idea.

Ira:

Parasite
Birdman
No Country For Old Men
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri
Inglourious Basterds
Little Miss Sunshine
The Full Monty
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Sideways
The Trial of the Chicago 7
Apollo 13
Traffic
Spotlight
The Birdcage
Black Panther
The King's Speech
Gosford Park
Argo
Hidden Figures
Shakespeare in Love
The Help
Chicago
American Hustle
Crash
American Beauty
Slumdog Millionaire

Tim said...

your 2000s cast for Titanic (Rosemary Harris as old Rose?) and The Full Monty?

Tim said...

+ 2010?

Bryan L. said...

Tim: He gave a 2010s cast & director for Titanic in Michael Keaton’s review for Clean & Sober.

Anonymous said...

Louis, what do you think make the scripts of the Safdie Brothers' movies so unique?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Unfortunately I'm not convinced it won't fall into one of his "maybe" projects like Robopocalypse and The Adventures of Tintin 2 that never materialize.

Tahmeed:

Love everything about the scene, and I think for me shows there are moments that can be of a period, which the song is, and totally work. This as a song you could hear at a night like that. The coyote is such an amazing moment, accidentally captured as is. This as this creature of the night who is both natural to the place and completely out of place in the city. Both reactions though are fantastic (and yes I should raise Foxx a bit as ding him a little too much for the Bardem scene which I do think is the weakest scene of his performance) this as Foxx portrays as kind of "could this night get any stranger" whereas there's more going with Vincent, who is in many ways a mutual spirit to the coyote.

Tim:

Full Monty 00's:

Gaz: Simon Pegg
Dave: Nick Frost
Gerald: Hugh Laurie

Full Monty 10's:

Gaz: Dan Stevens
Dave: Dominic Burgess
Gerald: Ralph Ineson

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Huh, go figure, I actually found the Bardem scene well performed too. To be honest, he's probably my pick of the nominees that year, although the Supporting lineups in the 2000s weren't all that great mostly.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: I can't see myself liking him more than Church or Owen, but I'll still admit to being a little too harsh on Foxx. What I think really holds the performance back is that he never equals Cruise, and that the role could've allowed for a truly amazing turn, instead of just a good one.

Mitchell Murray said...

On a more random note, I'm now half way through the Dark Tournament Arc, and "Yu Yu Hakusho" is further cementing its status as one of my favourite Shonens. Having seen "Hunter X Hunter", it's also interesting to compare both series, given that they share the same author (Yoshihiro Togashi).

Matt Mustin said...

I would say Foxx's performance in Collateral is acceptable, and that's it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Lol the Bardem scene is a big reason I like Foxx in it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

For me Foxx and Cruise are about equal in it. I like both, think they contribute equally to the film’s success, don’t quite “love” them.

Barry Shabaka Henley is my runner-up to Carradine, though.

Louis Morgan said...

Well for me, I don't find Foxx remotely convincing as Max playing the "badass" in the scene, and has always come off as more so a "bit" which isn't the intention of the scene as a whole Bardem is supposed to believe after all. This is particularly compared to Cruise, who obviously is highly convincing as such throughout.

Michael McCarthy said...

Just came back from seeing A Quiet Place Part II. It’s diverting but it suffers from a lack of focus, and it bothers me that they felt the need to incorporate so much more spoken dialogue here seeing as the near silence of the first film worked so well.

Blunt: 3.5
Simmonds: 3.5
Jupe: 3
Murphy: 4
Hounsou: 3

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Hope you have a nice drunken night lol =D

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Thank You. :)

Tim said...

your 2010s Cast and Director for Out Of Sight?

BRAZINTERMA said...

RIP B.J. Thomas

“Raindrops Keep Fallin on My Head”

Robert MacFarlane said...

So I rewatched the first two Pirates sequels. Dead Man’s Chest remains an unsatisfying followup that’s fun for about 20 minutes with only fluctuating bright spots (liar’s dice, some of the set pieces)


At World’s End rules, has always ruled, and I should have trusted 14-year-old me when I thought it was good at half the age I am now. Even Jack isn’t as bad as he gets credit for. This is going to be one of those futile hills I will die on. Give Verbinski something good again, Hollywood!

Anonymous said...

Louis: Have you watched Cruella?

Mitchell Murray said...

Robert: In regards to the Pirates films, I'll always hold a special admiration for the first (and best) one. Granted, a lot of that is because I've seen it the most times, whereas with the sequels I've intermittently watched bits and pieces of them, but rarely all in one sitting.

Also, what would be everyone's thoughts on the following rock songs/soundtracks:

Last One Standing - Simple Plan
Untraveled Road - Thousand Foot Krutch
Eren's Berserk Theme - Attack on Titan Season 1
It Has To Be This Way - Metal Gear Rising Revengeance
Emerald Heroes - Therewolf Media

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: Love Simple Plan, and Last One Standing is no exception. Their lyrics are simplistic, but they definitely know how to write killer hooks with solid production.

Marcus said...

Louis: Even though it was an excellent performance, do you think Dog Day Afternoon lead to Pacino becoming an overactor later on.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Marcus: While he definitely became louder later on, quite a few of the roles he took (Scarface, Dick Tracy, etc) did call for such an approach to begin with.

Anonymous said...

Louis, your top 5 Bob Hoskins performances?

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Out of Sight directed by Drew Goddard:

Karen Sisco: Brie Larson
Jack Foley: Chris Pine
Buddy Bragg: Tory Kittles
Maurice Miller: William Jackson Harper
Glenn Michaels: Billy Magnussen
Richard Ripley: Tracy Letts
Marshall Sisco: Jon Favreau
Adele: Lizzy Caplan
Ray Nicolette: Sam Rockwell

Marcus:

Not really, he gave a bigger performance as well in Scarecrow. His first two performances were indeed super subdued, but both characters called for that. I think as a performer he became a bit bigger by nature, but there's still plenty of work where he plays subdued. I think in part you saw him kind of probably change a bit as a person that played into it a bit more than anything as Pacino himself became more expressive as a man. Pacino as an actor I think still played to what he saw was best for the role. Take 97, he did Donnie Brasco that was a quieter turn fitting his over the hill gangster, against The Devil's Advocate where he might be at his biggest, but he's also playing Satan himself.

Anonymous:

1. Mona Lisa
2. Felicia's Journey
3. The Long Good Friday
4. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
5. Hollywoodland

Michael Patison said...

Robert: So glad there's somebody else to die with me on the At World's End hill.

RatedRStar said...

I will say the one thing I really did like about Pirates 3, was Jack Davenports performance, I thought he was pretty great in his brief screen time.

Tim said...

"Marry Me" by Hans Zimmer is the most beautiful thing i will ever get to hear

Calvin Law said...

I honestly think Pacino never truly came to a point where he just defaulted to overacting. I think he enjoys it, but for every loud personae there’s just as many subtle ones form the same period.

Anonymous said...

What current roles would you cast Glenda Jackson in?

Anonymous said...

Your 2020s Cast and Director for Terms of Endearment?

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: Roger Ebert pointed out once that sometimes Pacino could be accused of overacting, but never of BAD acting.

Louis Morgan said...

Ira:

Well she's come out of acting retirement so....

Anonymous:

Terms of Endearment 2020's directed by Greta Gerwig:

Emma Greenway-Horton: Saoirse Ronan
Aurora Greenway: Toni Collette
Garrett Breedlove: Leonardo DiCaprio
Vernon: Peter Dinklage
Flap Horton: Bo Burnham
Sam Burns: Harry Melling

Calvin Law said...

Matt: That's a pretty fair assessment.

Anonymous said...

Matt Mustin: I thought Pacino was pretty bad in Jack and Jill.

Mitchell Murray said...

So as per usual, the Youtube Series "Death Battle" just released their latest episode today: Steven Universe Vs Star Butterfly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuDyfx-fn6U

Their next fight, meanwhile, is actually a rematch of one of the show's oldest episodes: Link (Legend of Zelda) Vs Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy).

Anonymous said...

Louis, who would you cast in the 60s, 70s and 80s version of Road to Perdition?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Mare Of Easttown and the cast.

Bryan L. said...

Anonymous: He gave a couple of 70s casts for Road to Perdition in Francois Periers’ review for Orpheus.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Bryan. Will check it out.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: Whom would you have cast instead of Justin Theroux in Maniac, and Hillary Swank in Logan Lucky, and do you think Bennett Miller would have been better to direct Killing Them Softly?

Tim said...

Anonymous: i think he was the only watchable part of Jack And Jill.

Not necessarily "good" by the usual definition, but at least he seemed to have some kind of fun. I think the film would have been worse (yes, that's possible) without him

Mitchell Murray said...

Lucas: Not that it was a terribly well written part to begin with, but I think Holly Hunter could've been fun in Swank's role.

On another note, I watched "Hunt for the Wilderpeople" today and found it to be very good. Although I laughed more with Waititi's other films, it's perhaps his most interesting one in terms of story and character (Haven't seen "Boy" yet, so that may change).

Dennison - 4
Neill - 5
Waititi - 3

Louis Morgan said...

Watched Cruella, which is too long (Honestly what ever happened to pacing with so many studio films?), and too messy. There is things that can be enjoyed from it, particularly the two central performances. Enough at least to put it in the upper tier of Disney Live Action "(pre)(re)makes). I wish it was better, and I wouldn't quite call it a success, but I did enjoy enough of it not to mind it.

Stone - 4
Seifert-Cleveland - 3.5
Thompson - 3.5
Fry - 3
Hauser - 3
Beecham - 3
Howell-Baptiste - 2.5
Strong - 3
McCrea - 2
Novak - 2.5

Anonymous:

60's Road to Perdition:

Michael Sullivan: Robert Mitchum
Michael Sullivan Jr: Philip Alford
John Rooney: Barry Fitzgerald
Harlen Maguire: Tom Courtenay
Connor Rooney: Richard Harris
Nitti: James Whitmore

80's Road to Perdition:

Michael Sullivan: Jack Nicholson
Michael Sullivan Jr: Henry Thomas
John Rooney: James Mason
Harlen Maguire: John Malkovich
Connor Rooney: Sam Neill
Nitti: F. Murray Abraham

Luke:

Mare of Easttown is three things, a whodunit, a town tapestry and a central character study. The whodunit is a great through line, though I think the last episode had one revelation too many, to the point I think the music from the Clue endings wouldn't have been ill-fitting (But here's what really happened). The other aspects though are in a way where the series I think really excelled in terms of balancing them within the mystery. This as I thought they successfully amplified each other rather than any aspect feeling like filler. This as there is a real sense of history in the development of the town that goes beyond just how it plays into the mystery, and the central character is a great one brought beautifully to life. Loved how these aspects played off each other to the point I did care as much as seeing where these characters went as much as I wanted to see the case solved, which was a great hook even if slightly overplayed.

Well I'll start with a ranking and tell me who you want from there:

1. Kate Winslet
2. Julianne Nicholson
3. Jean Smart
4. David Denman
5. Joe Tippett
6. James McArdle
7. Angourie Rice
8. Guy Pearce
9. Phyllis Smerville
10. Cailee Spaeny
11. Enid Graham
12. John Douglas Thompson
13. Neal Huff
14. Patrick Murney
15. Ruby Cruz
16. Evan Peters
17. Sosie Bacon
18. Robbie Tann
19. Jack Mulhern
20. Deborah Hedwall
21. Madeline Weinstein
22. Mackenzie Lansing

Lucas:

Martin Freeman, Simon Pegg, Bill Crudup, Michael Stuhlbarg, Steve Zahn or Sam Rockwell, would've all served Theroux's role better.

Replace Swank with Sarah Paulson or anyone.

I mean theoretically Dominick should've worked, but he just made super questionable choices particularly in conveying the overarching theme. I mean Pitt's final speech I think actually would've been a knock out if the rest of the film had been alluding to the idea throughout rather bluntly spelling it every five seconds through the use of constant financial crisis audio/video throughout. Anyway, yes I think Miller's style would've served the material well, and probably would've been similar to Peter Yates's approach to the superior Friends of Eddie Coyle, which "Softly" is the technical sequel to.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on your top 8 and Peters.

Calvin Law said...

Thinking about it, Mare might be Kate's best performance for me. That or Eternal Sunshine.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Stone,Seifert-Cleveland, and Thompson

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the rest of the Easttown cast if you don't mind.

Calvin Law said...

Anonymous: That's a lot to ask in one go, plus Louis might not want to go into too much detail for fear of spoilers.

Anonymous said...

Then I'll narrow it down. Thoughts on:

Cailee Spaeny
John Douglas Thompson
Patrick Murney
Ruby Cruz
Jack Mulhern
Mackenzie Lansing

Anonymous said...

Louis: Who would you say are the best actors who had a somewhat limited range, but still consistently gave great performances.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Enid Graham as well, I personally thought she was MVP in episode 4.

8000S said...

Louis: Your 1970's cast for The Departed with Yates as director.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Speaking of The Departed, how do you think Pacino would have fared in Nicholson's role? If he tried, I could have seen that character be a highlight of the film.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: I'm one of the few who LOVES Nicholson in The Departed, but Pacino would have been something else.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Had it been run on another network like HBO, do you think Always Sunny would have received more Emmy noms/wins?

Calvin Law said...

I feel like Pacino's work would've veered closer to Tsang than Nicholson, which is definitely a good thing.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke & Anonymous:

I'll touch those easiest to talk about without spoilers:

Smart - (She's just a delight here, as she usually is. I think her and Winslet together are great in creating such a convincing and funny mother/daughter relationship. You just absolutely buy them together and they really bring an authentic levity just in these sort of realistic interactions where everything isn't always on the line. She's wonderful in playing off these moments with Winslet and the two together I think deliver the right reprieve in their scenes. Additionally the moments of a bit more drama she absolutely delivers on as well, which are minor for her, but well founded within her performance that I think so well finds herself as a natural comic relief.)

Rice - (She's good as the detective's daughter once again though her situation this time considerably different than before in The Nice Guys. She brings a nice energy to the role and manages to not overplay the sort of teenage angst/attitude moments to make her just an honest alternative within moments that sort of round out the family.)

Pearce - (Not surprising that he was a last minute replacement given that this role does seem below his pay grade. Having said that though he really delivers a terrific chemistry with Winslet and manages to find the right honest charm in the part. He manages in a way to make his scenes more important through just realizing that chemistry with Winslet that really works.)

Spaeny - (Well she successfully makes you feel really sorry for her entirely. This just exuding a combination of a earnest sweetness and really just a broken sort of desperation at the same time.)

Graham - (Thought she was maybe just a little much as the outspoken mom in her early scenes, though one can argue that's the point. She's genuinely really good in her later scenes in creating this sense of kind of settled trauma. This in portraying it as this constant kind of weight but also in a way more muted over time. This though in finding the right nuance in certain moments that are effective in terms of breaking up the character, and having these moments of more happiness or even humor that are well realized.)

Louis Morgan said...

Peters - (I honestly felt he went a little broad here at times. This as I wasn't entirely convinced by his character as this young hot shot or even modest sort of detective. This as there was always a little bit of a winking quality in his work that didn't serve the material in my view. He's not terrible, as when he drops this degree of broadness he has some good moments in there showing the more honest anxieties of the character. Still he felt a bit tonally off here.)

Winslet - (Much has been made about her accent work here, and it is indeed great. You can totally just accept her from the area and the part, without giving it even a second thought. The performance goes far beyond that and I was kind of thinking to myself when is it that Winslet is great. Well here she's great in just being entirely within this role here in every scene and just embodying every complicated element without ever falling into obvious cliche. This as her work here is so good in not just being one thing but really in a way finding the tone of the series in her own performance. This as I love the moments of levity she brings with Smart, and some of the less serious town folk moments. She brings such a sense of history even in the humor that you get she's been doing this for a long time. This with though a believable sense of the drive of the character both in terms of the investigation and her attempts to strive for her family particularly her grandson. Winslet carries that so well here, never overplaying it or making it too dramatic, rather embodying just the spirit of the woman as this certainty of her convictions. She entirely earns then the most emotional moments of her performance where she reveals her greater vulnerabilities. These are so powerful because of the way Winslet leans into them in moments so honestly, and never forces the emotion of it. She brings it out in such kind of a slow way that feels so true to Mare and in turn feels so powerful. Of course that is the nature of the strength of this performance. This being how honest everything she does her. This as every relationship we see feels not only authentic but you get such a sense of history in each one. Furthermore her acting in any of the overt thriller scenes is truly great in making a believable sense of the danger while never resorting to anything that would betray the character. Amazing work and honestly might be my favorite performance of hers.)

Louis Morgan said...

Ira:

Stone/Seifert-Cleveland - (Both are very good in managing to give a charismatic turn while also bringing enough of an edge, while a Disney edge that is, to craft the character. In some ways this is Abigail light for Stone, but hey that's an amazing performance from her while here is a good one. She brings the right energy and sense of fun in her work, while wholly delivering on the few bigger moments asked of her.)

Thompson - (Pretty straight forward ice queen, and she does it with an expected grace and wit from Thompson. I kind of wish the material let her go a bit deeper and meaner, but even without that, she's still an enjoyable villain here.)

Anonymous:

Clint Eastwood
Cary Grant
Harrison Ford
Albert Brooks

8000's:

I feel I have probably given that somewhere.

Tahmeed:

Pacino could've been interesting for sure. He might've coasted, which for Pacino means still trying but usually just going super BIG a little too much, though I think for Scorsese he probably wouldn't have. Rather tempering a bit and really probably being similar to Eric Tsang.

My ideal choice for the role though would've been Gene Hackman as I think he would've had that overt menace and sort of chaotic humor, but wouldn't have overplayed the latter like how I felt Nicholson did.

Anonymous:

Maybe, but then again sometimes the Emmys just ignore shows.

Calvin Law said...

The thing with the Emmys is they just generally latch onto a show and then default to it every year, regardless of quality. I can't think of many examples of shows that get awards traction at the Emmys without making it in from the very beginning.

Louis: your thoughts on the books destruction scene from The Handmaiden? Also, I actually agree with you on Peters from Mare. I don't really get the praise. Granted, it's all about the actresses on that show for me.

Calvin Law said...

Also, don't give thoughts because it's hard to get into it without talking too much about details, but would you say Mare is Julianne Nicholson's career-best?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

The fact that Community and It's Always Sunny have just one Emmy nomination between them really says a lot about their credibility as an awards group.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: Community technically got 3 and won one, they just weren't major awards.

Matt Mustin said...

Major categories, I should say.

Calvin Law said...

I wish Emmys didn't do that stupid thing of making the technical categories seem so unimportant. Although to be fair, the Oscars do that a lot too. Crew behind the scenes already don't get enough love.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Matt: Yeah, that animation Emmy for Abed's Uncontrollable Christmas was richly deserved. Also wish that Remedial Chaos Theory won the Writing Emmy it was nominated for, but the show really did deserve so much more recognition.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your cast and director for an adaptation of Tess of the d'Urbervilles?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Tahmeed: Looking at what was nominated at the time, they did not need to have so many Modern Family actors eat up Supporting Actor and Supporting Actress slots. Plus given how weak Lead Actor in a Comedy Series usually is, them snubbing McHale so many times is absolutely inexcusable. Also, Michael K. Williams should have won Guest Actor, dammit.

Here’s a bonus: What should have been an “Emmy” episode for each actor:

McHale: Emotional Consequences of Broadcast Television
Jacobs: Advanced Safety Features
Pudi: Critical Film Studies
Glover: Geothermal Escapism
Brie: Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design
Brown: Foosball and Nocturnal Vigilantism
Chase: Advanced Dungeons and Dragons
Rash: Advanced Documentary Filmmaking: Redux


Anonymous said...

Robert: Remember when they gave Jon Cryer an Emmy for lead actor despite being easily the weakest nominee?
Also I thought Michael K. Williams was solid but not anything special. I would have nominated John Goodman instead.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Anonymous: You really going to tell me Williams wasn’t great in the Law and Order episode? That was John Vernon-level straight man intensity.

Tim said...

your thoughts on Joseph Fiennes as an actor?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Robert: Agreed, all those episodes would probably have ended up being winning submissions as well. Heck, I could even make a case for Ken Jeong being worthy with 'Applied Anthropology and the Culinary Arts.'

Also, Rash's breakdown scene in the season 3 documentary episode is some of the best acting in a comedy show I've ever seen. Probably tied with McHale in the finale as my favourite single episode performance in the show.

Anonymous said...

The worst thing the Emmys did,acting wise, was give Jim Parsons four emmys yet nominate Jessica Walters and Will Arnett only one time for Arrested Development.

Also that time when Patricia Arquette won an Emmy for Medium over Frances Conroy and Glenn Close

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: How did you watch the Paul Scofield King Lear (1971) because I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Calvin Law said...

Mattt: You'd have to get a DVD of it, that's the only way I managed to watch it (got it at a library).

Luke Higham said...

Matt:

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Matt Mustin said...

Luke: That does NOT look safe, but thank you.

Matt Mustin said...

Watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Loved it.

Stewart-5
Wayne-5(I consider him supporting, btw)
Marvin-4.5
Miles-3.5
O'Brien-4
Devine-1.5
Strode-3.5
Carradine-3
Van Cleef-3

Matt Mustin said...

I was just rewatching the Indianapolis speech from Jaws (not the movie, just that speech) and the specific way that Shaw says "Black eyes, like a doll's eyes" might be one of my favourite line deliveries of all time.

Mitchell Murray said...

Matt: Completely agree on Shaw.

Also, its not to level of your film, but I did watch "Chef" for the first time last night. I'd describe it as a "lazy afternoon" movie - light and fairly routine, but at the same time enjoyable and competent where it matters.

Favreau - 3.5
Anthony - 3.5
Leguizamo - 3.5 (Perhaps one of his most genuinely likable performances)
Johansson - 3
Vergara - 3
Downey Jr - 3
Cannavale - 2.5
Hoffman - 2.5

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, I finished the "Dark Tournament" saga of "Yu Yu Hakusho" yesterday, and it certainly lives up to it's reputation as a well done Anime arc.

Tim said...

thoughts on the Reminiscence trailer?

John Smith said...

Louis your thoughts on Dylan Tichenor as an editor. Looked him up and noticed that he has edited some of my favourite films

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