Friday, 26 February 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2020: Mick Jagger in The Burnt Orange Heresy

Mick Jagger will not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Joseph Cassidy in The Burnt Orange Heresy. 

The Burnt Orange Heresy is a film that despite a striking set-up devolves into not much of anything, about an art critic being hired to steal a masterwork from a reclusive painter. Honestly I think the film would've been better off it stayed more of a purely philosophical piece and didn't get into thriller/mystery trappings (or perhaps if they were better developed or paced). 

Anyway, I'll concede this is being done in part to create a new comments section, but eh I also wanted to talk about this performance after randomly watching this film. The charismatic rocker Mick Jagger plays the enigmatic host to the visiting critic, Claes Bang's James Figueras, and the reclusive painter Jerome Debney (Donald Sutherland). Jagger has a fascinating presence as a performer on screen. Now the transfer of musician to convincing actor isn't always successful, but when it is, it can be something quite special. Like his performance, in Performance, Jagger here is rather fascinating in himself. There's just something about him onscreen that is wholly unusual, he deserves to be on screen, but at the same time he's unlike anyone else who would ever grace the screen, a bit like Tom Waits in that regard. Jagger's actual screentime in the film is relatively brief, but nonetheless steals the film wholesale with that. This as he appears as the eccentric rich man Cassidy and Jagger simply owns his space in that particularly wonderful way. This as Jagger carries the right oddness just as he carries this certain precise strength as well. There's a quiet cunning just as there's affable quality within his manner. He's there to deliver some exposition, and Jagger brings such wondrous texture to every word. There's just such a life of pleasure, wealth and experience within Jagger's portrayal. There's a strange wisdom in his eager delivery, but as well there's kind of a cutting quality about his words. Jagger's words are fascinating in that he speaks everything with such a jovial enthusiasm, but just the same he's wielding a real power with such ease. Jagger is magnetic and just fascinating to watch here. A true proper host for the film as he makes even just some random of discussions of art, with a few prying questions in between, carry so much in them. There's a sense of fun, extravagance even in Jagger's word, but at the same time an odd kind of threat. Jagger's eccentricity has a certain danger about it just as it is entertaining in its own way. It is hard to perfectly gauge the man, there's a perfect kind of mystery that Jagger grants. You can't quite tell if his Cassidy is just an aged playboy looking for a source of entertainment or more truly villainous in his requests. Jagger finds an elegant balance in the purpose of the character, though just as much, it must be said he makes every bit of dialogue sing through his totally atypical direction he takes every word. Jagger's performance never simply is there, there's a liveliness to every moment that is something special. Just the way his eyes go from welcoming towards some suspicion is dynamite. He prods with the same ease that he entices. Sadly Jagger is only sparsely used, though he comes back for a bit more, very welcome, spice at the very end of the film. Again finding a sense of menace with a believable smile, but a strangely piercing stare. The way Jagger goes on about different asides, there's a bit of threat in each little rambling of his. This is an absolutely wonderful performance by Mick Jagger, and though I wouldn't quite recommend the film, he does kind of make it worth viewing. 

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Bryan L. said...

My predictions

1. Hopkins
2. Mikkelsen
3. Lindo
4. Boseman
5. Ahmed

As good as Yeun is, there’s an argument to be made that his performance isn’t *as* integral to success of his film as the above gents are to theirs. Lee Isaac Chungs’ direction, Han & Youn are also rather great.

1. Mendelsohn
2. Raci
3. Diggs
4. Laurie
5. Dennehy

Kind of a crapshoot.

Bryan L. said...

the success of his film.

Also, I do want to give credit to Lindo for keeping me invested in his arc more than I otherwise would’ve been, especially since I KNEW what was going to happen to him after a certain point in the film.

Luke Higham said...

1. Mikkelsen
2. Hopkins
3. Lindo
4. Boseman
5. Ahmed
6. Yeun
7. Jackman
8. Oldman (Could be another Keaton in The Founder)
9. Ben-Adir
10. Rylance
8-10 is difficult.

Supporting
1. Mendelsohn
2. Laurie
3. Diggs
4. Hoult
5. Raci
6. Dennehy
7. Rylance
8. Jagger
9. Groff
10. Whishaw

Luke Higham said...

Looks as if Coming 2 America will be a disappointment.

Calvin Law said...

Robert and Bryan: While I certainly agree that Youn, Han and Chung are the most obvious standout elements of the film and will most likely be for Louis too, I do think on rewatches, Yeun’s performance gets even better - though granted I also found a very particular sort of connection with the character which is hard to deny. I’m surprised that awards bodies are going for it as much as they are, but personally I’m delighted.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I think groff will score higher than Jagger because louis did not care for the movie other than Jagger while he loved Hamilton.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Maybe, Maybe not. That's not always the case when it comes to rankings.

Calvin Law said...

As for the Actress categories, I’m predicting for Louis:

1. Mulligan
2. Clark
3. McDormand
4. Vysotskaya
5. Han

1. Youn
2. Colman
3. Davis (Babyteeth)
4. Wright
5. Goldsberry

Shaggy Rogers said...

Tahmeed

Lead Actor
1. Mads Mikkelsen
2. Anthony Hopkins
3. Chadwick Boseman
4. Steven Yeun
5. Daniel Kaluuya

Lead Actress
1. Carey Mulligan
2. Morfydd Clark
3. Frances McDormand
4. Han Ye-ri
5. Olivia Colman

Supporting Actor
1. Brian Dennehy
2. Hugh Laurie
3. Aldis Hodge
4. Daveed Diggs
5. Nicholas Hoult

Supporting Actress
1. Youn Yuh-jung
2. Essie Davis (Babyteeth)
3. Sophia Loren
4. Vanessa Kirby (The World to Come)
5. Candice Bergen

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Definitely a possibility, as I've always felt it was an underrated turn from him.

Anonymous:

No, as it is based around lack of evidence rather than evidence. For example, there's no evidence of Shakespeare's education, but there's also no evidence for the lack of it. There's just simply no evidence either way. Additionally it is rather questionable in general with an elitist bent to theory, which leaves a little bit of a bad taste in the mouth.

Tim said...

One thing i would like to ask is who everyone would pick as their next predictions? Sure, many have been mentioned before, but i would like a refreshment.
Some i was thinking about.

- i would like to make sure that Aaron Eckhart is reviewed for Thank You For Smoking, as i am do not think he is a given
- Kwak Do-Won in The Wailing
- Jean Dejardin in 99 Francs
- I would like some Sean Penn positivity in here, so i played around with requesting him in The Thin Red Line
- While we're at '97, Michael Douglas in The Game
- someone from Straight Outta Compton

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: I'd like to use one of my 3 winning requests for a write-up of Bill Heck's work in Buster Scruggs for 2018 supporting.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: Thank you for that.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: are Foster and Zenegel on the border for you between Lead/Supporting, or would you say they’re definitively Supporting?

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Foster I was conflicted over for about half of the film, however at a certain point her perspective fades as it hones in more closely on Salahi, that I felt she was supporting in the end. She is on the border though, and I'd say if she's lead, you'd have to consider Cumberbatch lead as well.

With Zengel the argument can be made as well, however enough of the film is built around Hanks's perspective, and only Hanks's perspective, that I did feel he was sole lead in the end.

Calvin Law said...

Agreed on both counts, I've just heard talk on the internet about both being arguable category fraud but I don't really see it for either, a bit more for Zengel maybe though.

On that note who would you have cast in Cumberbatch's role instead? I was thinking about this and someone like Walton Goggins could've been pretty good I think.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yeah at the very least I wouldn't count either case as fraud in the slightest, as I think either placement is fair, unlike say Kaluuya, who is unquestionably lead to me.

Goggins definitely could've worked, I also could've seen Bradley Cooper, Jeremy Renner, or the most accurate casting, Ethan Suplee.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top ten most despicable characters of all time in movies.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the cinematography for Hostiles, and your 1970s cast/director for the film.

Anonymous said...

Louis or Luke
If Sound of Metal Paul Raci played the protagonist Ruben, who would be the director and cast of the film in the 60s, 70s or 80s?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis and everyone else: What are your favourite Elton John songs? Mine would be-

Sacrifice
Candle in the Wind 97
Your Song
Don't Go Breaking My Heart
I'm Still Standing

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed:
-The Bitch is Back
-Saturday Night's All Right For Fighting
-I Guess That's Why They Call it the Blues
-Don't Go Breaking My Heart
-Crocodile Rock

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: I must admit, I'm not overly familiar with Elton's music apart from his most famous tracks ("Rocket Man", of course). If the question was regarding Johnny Cash or Freddy Mercury, I'd be able to give a better response.

Mitchell Murray said...

On a separate note, I finished the second season of "One Punch Man" today. Compared to the highly entertaining first season, it does feel like a major step down, and reduces my overall view of the show sadly. That being said, I can still admire the different approach to a extent, and there are certain narrative choices that work (The character of Garou, for example).

As I understand it, the original manga and online sources of "One Punch Man" seem to be far better than what season two provided.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: Yeah, the change in animation studios did it absolutely no favours. This alongside the strange shift in narrative in that season, which seemed to have had Saitama almost as a supporting character in his own show.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I'm thinking...

Hitler - Downfall
Hitler - Inglourious Basterds
Hitler - Hitler: The Last Ten Days
Hitler - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Hitler - Is Paris Burning
Hitler - The Desert Fox
Hitler - Valkyire
Hitler - Citizen Kane
Hitler - I'll Never Heil Again
Lisa - The Room

Bryan:

Only by virtue of the bar being so high for western cinematography would I say that the film doesn't achieve those heights, having said that it is a well shot film. I'll admit I wish Cooper's script examined the themes more effectively, as there is certainly something quite striking in crafting the landscapes here. The naturalistic lighting is beautiful. The composition of shots often awe inspiring, while also anxiety inducing in the way so many shots are with the people isolated within the frame. Beautiful work.

Hostiles 1970's directed by Clint Eastwood:

Captain Blocker: Clint Eastwood
Rosalee: Sondra Locke
Chief Yellow Hawk: Will Sampson
Lt. Kidder: Don Johnson
Sgt. Metz: Warren Oates
Sgt. Wills: Lance Henriksen
Corporal Woodson: Glynn Turman
Col. Biggs: John Vernon

Anonymous:

I'll need you to clarify that slightly.

Tahmeed:

I'm Still Standing
Be Prepared
Your Song
A Candle in the Wind
I Want Love

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: I mean, I would still be on the side of "it's okay" than "I regret watching it", but the season really can't compare to the enjoyment of the first. Rating wise, it would be the difference of an 8/10 as opposed to a 6/10.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Since Oscar nominations aren’t for another 10 days and we’re on page 2 of comments again, can you review Hanks in Catch Me If You Can since we’re done with 2002? As a favor?

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: Quick question regarding Hanks, what category is he? Cause I've always considered him co-lead.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I think he’s supporting. Even with his decent POV, his approach to the role is actually that of a supporting player. Not to mention the gap between him and Dicaprio is bigger than you’d think.

Calvin Law said...

Yeah, according to Screentime Central, Hanks has 45:15 / 32.18% of screentime, while DiCaprio has1:26:03 / 61.19%.

Bryan L. said...

I think it's fair to say that Screentime Central has opened up a rabbit hole of Lead/Supporting discussions on here haha.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Regarding despicable, I was thinking of characters that are pure evil or something along those lines.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on Hayao Miyazaki and Isao Takahata as directors.

Tim said...

Tahmeed: regarding Elton John

Candle In the Wind
I'm still standing
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Be Prepared
Chapel of love
Your Song

I don't listen to him a lot though

Louis Morgan said...

Sadly I thought Coming 2 America was pretty bad. I had my suspicions when there was so little John Amos (still the best part of this film even with screentime that only slightly tops his Uncut Gems screentime) in the trailers, and unfortunately that was the sign of doom. I think theoretically the plot and everything could've worked (though I think the Americans would've needed to be played less broadly as it has the frequent modern comedy problem of too many comedians in a kitchen, someone needs to be the straight man), but more than anything just the majority of the jokes don't work.

Robert:

I could possibly make that happen..

Anonymous:

I know, I believe my list reflected that, I was referring to the anonymous asking about the retrocasting on the Sound of Metal.

Tahmeed:

Again I think I need to see a bit more on Takahata first. Miyazaki is someone who is fair to say makes pure cinema like few others. This as there is nothing that isn't really visualized within his work, as even a dust mite or bus has life to it obviously. Although even the truly inanimate are filled with a bit of lively splendor. His work truly fulfilling the idea of it isn't what a film is about, but how it is about it. As My Neighbor Totoro plot is extremely sparse but that doesn't matter, as the film couldn't be more engaging in its own warm hearted and gentle way. Of course I think notable though is Miyazaki's work is so thematically rich even within a film like Totoro, and even more so with Spirited Away, has a bit more of a plot to it, yet more than anything so naturally exists within the journey that whisks you way. Of course in Nausicaa he proved quite capable within a film with a stricter plot as well. I think though in a way he challenged himself a director consistently, this even to attempt something twice. This as while Porco Rosso is far from a bad or even mediocre film, the balance at more mature themes didn't quite naturally realize itself. Miyazaki later seemingly rectified this, perhaps by being truer to the spirit of the idea, with The Wind Rises. That film, while hardly bereft of wonder, proved his ability to do a fairly straight drama as well, though of course never handicapped himself to the point of forgetting animation, by featuring those incredible and powerful dream sequences. Of course burying the led in part, as the animation is such an essential facet of his directing, and there is nothing quite like it in terms of the sheer immersive beauty of his visuals. His visuals aren't part of his films, but crux of them, as they meld his intentions together into a truly stunning vision.

Tim said...

Thoughts and Rating on Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Speaking of despicable characters, could Hitler become your win for 2004 Lead again.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: I won't get my hopes up for that. If anything, I hope he remains in the top 5. Also, I'll be pretty content with whoever takes it.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Regarding Mick Jagger are you a Stones fan at all?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Have you started watching Erased yet.

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

Murphy & Hall - 2.5(I think both performances, while not bad, feel like tired retreads. Murphy tries to bring some genuine heart but it just doesn't amount to much here. Hall honestly feels often underused as Semmi, though he tries as well. Just where they put both characters, just leaves them with little to work with. It's a particular shame for Hall, who always seemed a little strange as a one and done kind of film actor given his work in the first one showed more than a little promise. They're probably most game for all the extra characters coming back, but even there only got a mild chuckle or two from them. I really wished, given all the time that passed, they had a dynamite script to work with, but that was not the case. Honestly the more I think about it, the major McDowell scene was the only one that captured the first film for me, and maybe that was due to Amos.)

Matt:

At the very least a casual fan.

Tahmeed:

Not yet.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Have you watched Year of the Rabbit, and if so, thoughts on David Dawson.

(If you have not watched it, do not Google who he plays. The surprise helps.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Dillinger and Still Walking with ratings and thoughts on the casts.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Did you see Summer Interlude as well.

Stephen Patterson said...

Great that Still Walking came 6th in your 08 top ten Louis.

Matt Mustin said...

Well, I thought A Sun was absolutely beautiful and truly something special. Duking it out with 1917 as my 2019 cinematography winner, but I think I still have to give the edge to Deakins just on the basis of that scene where the sky's on fire. In any other year A Sun wins it easily.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Present film roles for Edward Arnold, Walter Huston, John Carradine, Raymond Massey and Pat O'Brien.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: With the remaining films recommendations, if you don't have enough time to watch all of them, then I'd suggest Summer Interlude, Theatre Of Blood (I would like to know whether this is Price's best work) and Anonymous.

Stephen Patterson said...

Where would the Still Walking women rank.

Tim said...

Your thoughts on and ranking of the Sound Editing of The Hurt Locker, Avatar, Inglourious Basterds, Star Trek and Up?

Anonymous said...

Louis: I don't mind if you can't get around to Noah. I'll probably make that my request for next year.

Louis Morgan said...

I'll get to those thoughts on the next post.

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