Friday, 26 February 2021

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2020: Mick Jagger in The Burnt Orange Heresy

Mick Jagger will not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Joseph Cassidy in The Burnt Orange Heresy. 

The Burnt Orange Heresy is a film that despite a striking set-up devolves into not much of anything, about an art critic being hired to steal a masterwork from a reclusive painter. Honestly I think the film would've been better off it stayed more of a purely philosophical piece and didn't get into thriller/mystery trappings (or perhaps if they were better developed or paced). 

Anyway, I'll concede this is being done in part to create a new comments section, but eh I also wanted to talk about this performance after randomly watching this film. The charismatic rocker Mick Jagger plays the enigmatic host to the visiting critic, Claes Bang's James Figueras, and the reclusive painter Jerome Debney (Donald Sutherland). Jagger has a fascinating presence as a performer on screen. Now the transfer of musician to convincing actor isn't always successful, but when it is, it can be something quite special. Like his performance, in Performance, Jagger here is rather fascinating in himself. There's just something about him onscreen that is wholly unusual, he deserves to be on screen, but at the same time he's unlike anyone else who would ever grace the screen, a bit like Tom Waits in that regard. Jagger's actual screentime in the film is relatively brief, but nonetheless steals the film wholesale with that. This as he appears as the eccentric rich man Cassidy and Jagger simply owns his space in that particularly wonderful way. This as Jagger carries the right oddness just as he carries this certain precise strength as well. There's a quiet cunning just as there's affable quality within his manner. He's there to deliver some exposition, and Jagger brings such wondrous texture to every word. There's just such a life of pleasure, wealth and experience within Jagger's portrayal. There's a strange wisdom in his eager delivery, but as well there's kind of a cutting quality about his words. Jagger's words are fascinating in that he speaks everything with such a jovial enthusiasm, but just the same he's wielding a real power with such ease. Jagger is magnetic and just fascinating to watch here. A true proper host for the film as he makes even just some random of discussions of art, with a few prying questions in between, carry so much in them. There's a sense of fun, extravagance even in Jagger's word, but at the same time an odd kind of threat. Jagger's eccentricity has a certain danger about it just as it is entertaining in its own way. It is hard to perfectly gauge the man, there's a perfect kind of mystery that Jagger grants. You can't quite tell if his Cassidy is just an aged playboy looking for a source of entertainment or more truly villainous in his requests. Jagger finds an elegant balance in the purpose of the character, though just as much, it must be said he makes every bit of dialogue sing through his totally atypical direction he takes every word. Jagger's performance never simply is there, there's a liveliness to every moment that is something special. Just the way his eyes go from welcoming towards some suspicion is dynamite. He prods with the same ease that he entices. Sadly Jagger is only sparsely used, though he comes back for a bit more, very welcome, spice at the very end of the film. Again finding a sense of menace with a believable smile, but a strangely piercing stare. The way Jagger goes on about different asides, there's a bit of threat in each little rambling of his. This is an absolutely wonderful performance by Mick Jagger, and though I wouldn't quite recommend the film, he does kind of make it worth viewing. 

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Anonymous said...

Woah

Psifonian said...

Shoulda played the Branagh role in "Tenet."

Calvin Law said...

Agreed with your thoughts on the film overall. Kinda hollow but some good stuff. Kind of hope these aren’t the kinds of roles Debicki gets stuck with in the future though.

I liked Jagger in it too though not as much as you did.

Thoughts and ratings on the rest of the cast?

Anonymous said...

Psifonan: Even the best actor in the world could not make the tenet villain work.

Anonymous said...

Louis: What's your interpretation of the ending of The Departed? I've read some fan theories that Dignam was also an informer who worked for Frank, and was just cleaning up the mess made by Matt Damon's character.

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: Just from Wahlberg's performance alone you can tell that's not the case.

Tim said...

Globe Predictions:

Foreign Language: Minari
Animated Feature: Soul
Song: "Speak Now"
Score: Mank
Screenplay: The Trial of the Chicago 7
Supporting Actress: Olivia Colman (I CAN DREAM!)
Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Actress - Comedy/Musical: Marija Bakalova
Actor - Comedy/Musical: Sasha Baron Cohen
Actress - Drama: Frances McDormand
Actor - Drama: Anthony Hopkins
Director: David Fincher
Best Picture - Comedy: Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Best Poicture - Drama: Nomadland

Tim said...

So, i recently played cathup on some movies.

First of all, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Gods, what have i been missing out on? It was absolutely fantastic on pretty much all the levels, expect for the really distracting deschanel-cameo near the end, and the narration was a bit obvious once or twice, but that's it. Even paul Schneider (whom after thinking about it for longer i bump down to a 1.5 for Lars) was pretty good. Nothing more to add; it's great.
Definitely my Cinematography Winner that year

Pitt: 5
Affleck: 5
Rockwell: 5
Dillahunt: 4
Schneider: 3
Renner: 3.5
Shepard: 3
Parker: 2.5

I also finally got around to watching Hereditary. After having heard ridiculously good things about t, i went in with high expectations and i can't really say i was disappointed, even though not blown away either. It had some very good Performances, was well made and had some shockingly effective scenes (e.g. the car accident). Even for normally Shepherd tones annoy me to death in Horror (Muschietti, I'm looking at you) even that worked for me hear. The twist concerning the character of Joan was a bit obvious though.
But somebody, PLEASE, tell Alex Wolff how big crying scenes are done. He made the Sceance-Scene almost laughable, despite otherwise being pretty good in it.

Collette: 5
Byrne: 3.5
Wolff: 4
Shapiro: 3
Dowd: 3.5


And then at last i finally saw Insomnia, which i would honestly put on the bottom of my Nolan ranking. While it's mostly servicable, it has the least going for it out of his entire filmography for me. The Villain is pretty cool, that's it otherwise it is servicable, but in no aspect especially good. And somewhat boring around the middle.
And seven hells, the Editing was horrible! I know Nolan will never do something like a long take, and his shot ratio normally is said to be around 3 seconds, but was it so hard to hold a shot for longer than one second here?!

Pacino: 4
Williams: 5
Swank: 2

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Bang - 3(There's too much missing from his character to be great. This as we should believe he's in a desperate spot and gets more desperate. We don't get that, not really Bang's fault overall, it's just the film doesn't effectively realize the developments of the plot and particularly his character arc. I do think he's very good in the opening scene in delivering a compelling monologue that brings in both a ego of a critic but a seeming earnest passion for what he speaks. It's diminishing returns from there though as he's fine but it doesn't add up to much. He's a bit more in his final scenes in conveying the internalized guilt/paranoia, but even this doesn't amount to much. I do overall think he does what he can do with it, but the limits of the writing hold him back.)

Debicki - 3.5(I mean at this point she needs to find a new part or she is going to be quite typecast as the battered girlfriend/wife. Nonetheless she is good in the part. She finds again an effective honesty in the character's vulnerabilities, and does particularly deliver on the most intense moments on her end. At the same time though Debicki doesn't make it one note. This finding a bit of agency, as limited as it is, in the more civil interactions. Although I think her in this type of role is becoming diminishing returns, she's good once again.)

Sutherland - 3.5(He's good as you'd expect him to be. He brings the right sort of wizened manner that is both warm while also being a little critical all the same. His presence is appreciated but sadly the character just doesn't truly go anywhere beyond that base set up by Sutherland. He's more than fine, but it is a shame the writing leaves him no where interesting to go.)

Anonymous:

Well the character as written wasn't amazing, someone could've done a lot more than Branagh did with it, for example have a bit of fun with it...well more than the goofy accent.

Anonymous:

Don't believe it in the least. Wahlberg's face is a man who appears both angry and sad, as an act of revenge, not some cold business as that interpretation would indicated.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: you got to admit you at least got a laugh out of some of Branagh’s lines?

Anonymous said...

Louis: I meant no one could have made a villain whos motive to destroy the world being "I hate happiness" believable.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

True...just not in the right way.

Anonymous:

That's fair.

Anonymous said...

Razzie shortlist are out and Glenn made it for Hillbilly. Lol

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Well finally a potential nomination she deserves. Hopefully she won't join Amy Irving and James Coco...by only being Razzie nominated.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Link to razzie shortlist?
Louis: I never understood why Amy Irving and James coco got nomination for razzies. Their performances not not amazing are decent enough.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your rating & thoughts for the rest of the cast of I Care a Lot, plus your thoughts on the score for the film?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: is Shaun Parkes supporting or lead for you in Mangrove?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Coco's nomination there is absurd, though I can understand Irving's a bit more....now Ennio Morricone's nomination for The Thing is a travesty.

Bryan:

Gonzalez - 2.5(Have yet to be impressed by one of her performances. This one included. She's not terrible, but quite un-engaging. She doesn't really develop anything about her role internally as this sidekick to Pike. She's just kind of there largely with little put within her work other than being there as the typical slightly mysterious sexy type she is usually cast as. There's nothing about her actual performance that makes this something remotely special once again.)

Messina - 3(Does a fine sleazy lawyer routine. There isn't anything especially remarkable of him here, but he's at least a little bit of fun in his threatening Pike scene.)

Wiest - 3.5(I would actually say MVP despite being somewhat underutilized. This as initially she's effective in very much putting a human face to the con in showing her confusion and understandable discontent with it. The twist though is well performed by her in her rather cutting moment of threatening Pike while in a daze.)

Blair - 3(Now I haven't heard of J. Blakeson's intentions, but evoking Death of the Author, I'll ignore any potential claims on his part. This is probably the worst element of the film as he seems to position him as "oh look he dresses like a slob and calls her bitch" though given the circumstance he'd probably be entitled to call her much worse. Blair to his credit doesn't try to remove the sympathy from his character's plight just as the writing and directing seem to want to. This in Blair brings an authentic anger and desperation all connected to an obvious love for his mother.)

The score is pretty good actually as Marc Canham's score of kind of this techno-rot style sound grants a certain appropriate atmosphere that would be well used for a more interesting morally compromised thriller than this one is. The often minimalist score though is frequently striking and I'd say one of the better elements of the film.

Calvin:

He's lead to me, as even though the film takes a broader perspective, I still felt it always came back to him as the center-point particularly in the opening and ending.

Shaggy Rogers said...

My Golden Globe predictions:

Foreign Language: Minari
Animated Feature: Soul
Song: "Speak Now"
Score: Mank
Screenplay: The Trial of the Chicago 7
Supporting Actress: Amanda Seyfried
Supporting Actor: Sasha Baron Cohen
Actress - Comedy/Musical: Marija Bakalova
Actor - Comedy/Musical: Lin Manuel Miranda
Actress - Drama: Carey Mulligan
Actor - Drama: Chadwick Boseman
Director: Chloe Zhao
Best Picture - Comedy: Hamilton
Best Poicture - Drama: Nomadland

Shaggy Rogers said...

Does anyone have a link to watch the Golden Globes ceremony live?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Ennio Morricone reused some of the themes from the thing in his score for the hateful eight and won an Oscar. So he made the score for the thing, got razzie nominated, reused some of the themes 3 decades later and won an Oscar for that.

John Smith said...

Louis, your top 10 Michael K Williams acting moments

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the 'Under Your Spell' montage from Drive?

Louis Morgan said...

John Smith:

I'd say I need to see a bit more of his work, though I've liked him in everything I've seen him in, I've only really scratched the surface.

Tahmeed:

I mean more gorgeous work in Refn's masterpiece. Just beautifully done in terms of creating that connection of Irene and The Driver in the editing with the music, where you feel the thoughts of both just through juxtaposition. Also worth noting is how well Isaac plays the scene with Gosling where he doesn't overplay the jealous angle rather setting it up the more expected type, well also allowing for the subversion when we get to see that Standard is decent after all.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your updated top ten carey mulligan performances.

Anonymous said...

Also, sorry i this has been asked before, but is tom hardy’s win for the revenant 100% safe or are you tempted to give it to hoult.

Tim said...

AnonyMous: "I could go so many different ways ... I could easily switch at any time ..."

I would say the chance for a Hoult win is still there

Tim said...

Louis: Any chance Djimon Hounsou might go up to a 3.5 in Blood Diamond? No, he doesn't mix them well at all, he is way to angry at his wife in the prison scene, but his chemistry with DiCaprio i found really good and most of his big scenes he han´dled somewhat well for me

Anonymous said...

Tim: i know but that was 5 years ago so I wanted to know if there was still a chance. I personally would be fine if either performance is the winner.

Robert MacFarlane said...

*whispers* Go with Hoooouuuult.

Anyway, watched Minari last night and adored it. Easily my #1 now. Everyone is phenomenal, Han and Youn in particular.

Anonymous said...

Robert: What did you think about steven yeun?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Holly Hunter's voice? I have to admit, there's something really adorable and endearing about her voice and how she talks.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the "What more can you take away from me" and "I can't lose you again" scenes from The Incredibles.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: Close being shortlisted for a Razzie is all well but can we talk about how they snubbed the rest of the cast? Like good lord I cannot imagine watching that film and not nominating Amy Adams.

Anonymous said...

Louis: You made a placing error in your alternate supporting 1986. You put McGinley (who you gave a 4.5) lower than Noonan and Caine for Mona Lisa (who you gave a 4).

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Noonan and Caine are 4.5s.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Okay sorry.

Shaggy Rogers said...

Does anyone have a link to watch the Golden Globes ceremony live?

RatedRStar said...

I can't find the Razzie shortlist, can somebody link it please?

Anonymous said...

Ratedrstar: https://awardswatch.com/sias-music-hillbilly-elegy-hubie-halloween-top-longlists-for-2021-razzie-awards/

Anonymous said...

Shaggy rogers: The golden globes will be on NBC at 8 pm est.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

1. Promising Young Woman
2. Far From the Madding Crowd
3. An Education
4. Suffragette
5. Drive
6. Never Let Me Go
7. Inside Llewyn Davis
8. The Great Gatsby
9. Mudbound
10. Shame

Anonymous:

Hardy is secure at this point as much as I love Hoult's work.

Tim:

No, although one of the best version of him doing those two notes, out of all the performances I've seen from him those are the only two notes he ever plays.

Anonymous:

I'm fairly positive I've given those thoughts before.

Anonymous:

I mean both scenes essentially are the emotional heart of the film, that really are pretty much what you see, despite the main crux of the story of Mr. Incredible going away from his family, both are there to show the fundamental truth to his care for his family.

Calvin:

Oh Adams was snubbed hard, along with the two J.D. Vance actors. Although the former I'm particularly surprised by as usually they love the "slap the star" at the Razzies.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Mulligan still a 3.5 for Wildlife.

Tim said...

Shaggy:

not entirely sure, maybe this one is legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri180Ezmk9k

Mitchell Murray said...

In regards to the Golden Globes tonight, here's hoping they don't do anything to bizarre or outlandish when it comes to their winners...

And on a separate note, I'm 4 episodes into the first season of "Yu Yu Hakusho" and already enjoying it greatly.

Anonymous said...

Mitchell: If Jared Leto or Glenn close or James Corden wins I will lose faith in humanity.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Are there any atheletes or musicians that you want to see take up acting? Based on sheer charisma alone, I'd really want to see Hikaru Nakamura take on a role.

Anonymous said...

I feel that louis was being way too kind to Dane dehaan in the amazing Spider-Man 2 by giving him a 2.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Also, if we're talking about Hardy's 2015 work, I'm fine with him keeping the win for The Revenant. What I'm actually hoping for is for his positions to be switched between Legend and Fury Road (impossible, I know). I just find his work in the latter to be far more impressive on rewatches, especially that he brought so much out of so little.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: He's great in both though I'm hoping McKellen will go above him.

Matt Mustin said...

Tahmeed: I think he's great in Legend, but you're right, his work in Fury Road has stuck with me more.

RatedRStar said...

What does everyone think will win at the Razzies? cause I don't think Glenn Close will actually win a razzie.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your retro directorial choices for Armando Ianucci, Martin McDonagh & Edgar Wright.

Anonymous said...

Ratedrstar; I bet worst picture and worst director will go to 365 days, worst actor will go to robert downey jr, worst actress will go to kate hudson, worst supporting actor will go to rudy giuliani and worst supporting actress will go to judi dench.
Also why is hubie halloween and kristen wiig on the shortlist but not Amy adams?

Anonymous said...

Also Louis have you seen the show damages? Because i heard that glenn close is really good in it.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Does anyone know where Louis gave his thoughts on Stone and Weisz's performances in The Favourite?

Anonymous said...

Tahmeed: He gave his thoughts on will Patton's review for no way out.

Anonymous said...

Louis: In your review of Robert Preston for the last starfighter it shows him as a 4.5 but on the lineup page he is a 4.

Louis Morgan said...

Kaluuya wins, seems like he could sweep.

Calvin Law said...

KALUUUUYA

Louis: I'm sure it was, look forward to watching the speech later.

Aidan Pittman said...

I *knew* something like that was gonna happen.

Calvin Law said...

John Boyega is an awesome choice though again, Supporting Actor is such a weird category to put him in.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Ianucci:

Shakespeare (he cuts out the "in love" part)
Dr. Strangelove
Anatomy of a Murder

McDonagh:

Our Man in Havana
The Hit
The Long Goodbye

Wright:

Big Trouble in Little China
The Warriors
The Ladykillers

Tahmeed:

Not sure, I would kind of like to see Johnny Greenwood have some kind of acting cameo in a PTA sometime.

Anonymous:

I have not.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

The speech mention was a joke, as initial his sound wasn't working.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Although twas a fine speech when he finally got to speak.

Louis Morgan said...

Side note the actual ceremony is pretty awkward so far, particularly the virtual audience reactions.

Louis Morgan said...

Soul wins, no surprise but well deserved.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I have no idea why they insist on doing an actual ceremony for this one in particular. I'm just checking out the live updates as it goes along.

Probably a good test run for the other awards to come though.

Calvin Law said...

Soul is a great choice, I know some want Wolfwalkers to win and that would've been inspired, but I honestly preferred Soul overall by quite a bit.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yeah Soderbergh's got his work cut out for him. Honestly the hosting job is so tough to begin with, but not exactly playing to a crowd horribly throws off live comic timing.

Tim said...

*sigh* are they really doing that introducing the picture nominees shit again?

Louis Morgan said...

Sorkin wins...

Louis Morgan said...

And while I like the film and the script, there were better choices this year.

Calvin Law said...

Unsurprising win, I was hoping for an upset but oh well.

Aidan Pittman said...

Just wanna say that this is incredibly unfunny.

Tim said...

Jesus, this hurts ...

Calvin Law said...

I'm honestly so glad I'm not watching the stream because it sounds painful. Twitter updates definitely coming in handy this year.

Louis Morgan said...

Yeah, I'll be watching Maniac with this muted in the background for the rest of the show, I've had enough of the shtick...if you can even call it that.

Luke Higham said...

Glad I don't watch Awards Shows live anymore if it's this bad.

Matt Mustin said...

Not watching the Globes because, to be frank, I don't care at all, but how many of the jokes are some version "Hey, remember how sucky the world is right now!"? Because that was my problem with the jokes at the Emmys.

Bryan L. said...

An hour in and there’s only been three (3) film awards given out. Come on let’s go let’s go...

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: They always do all the TV stuff first don't they?

Luke Higham said...

Thoughts on Lowell and Greenfield in PYW.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: I think he still wants to rewatch before giving thoughts.

Also, haven't seen new season of The Crown yet but Corrin winning seems to be no surprise to anyone. I'm currently batting 100% in my predictions.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: I guess I was referring more to the constant montages/languid pace of the show, but its usually a mix of both TV & film at the beginning.

Louis Morgan said...

The Life Ahead song won, okay. Soul wins score, nice.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Promising Young Woman went up to #3 in his top ten.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: Didn't clock that, but that's wonderful.

Eh I enjoyed that The Life Ahead song but I'm sad Leslie Odom Jr. is going winless tonight.

Tim said...

i was soooooooooooo close to predicting Soul winning Score ...

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Lowell & Greenfield - (Well to cover both, and why my enthusiasm only increased with the second viewing is the ending completely worked for me viewing the film as a piece. This being that in a sense the film is a series of subversions, which I'll get into more on nomination day when covering the screenplay. Anyway their performances though are pitch perfect in purpose, this as the duo doofus leads that would be in your sex hijinks comedy, without going too far in my view. They are both just total fools and they work in that context, as bro idiots but also that type of "hero" for a different kind of the film. The subversion though is in the cruelty of that joke in reality when we have known and cared about the "stripper" up to this point. Although I think both serve their roles well, particularly Greenfield, I think more than anything the nature of the characters/performances is some especially clever directing on Fennell's part.)

Calvin Law said...

Did Soul winning score surprise people? Seemed like the obvious choice. I'm all for its imminent Oscar win too.

Tim said...

all the lifestreams i found got spammed with unneaded traffic, now all are taken down

Calvin Law said...

Glad I'm not witnessing their presumably horrific introduction of Music.

Louis Morgan said...

Pike wins boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Calvin Law said...

Holy fuck no way.

Louis Morgan said...

Over Taylor-Joy and Bakalova hurts, though at least it wasn't Hudson.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Rubbish! Filth! Slime! Muck! Boooo! Booooooooooo!

(I have not seen I Care A Lot, but I’m upset Maria and Anya lost)

Luke Higham said...

HFPA, the unholy gift that keeps on giving.

Calvin Law said...

Now if she ends up making that fifth spot in Best Actress...

Granted the Globes seem to have a weird love for Pike.

Calvin Law said...

Yay Minari but also it shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Louis Morgan said...

Well yes Another Round should've won if Minari was in best Drama where it belonged.

Louis Morgan said...

Well...Another Round also belonged in Best Drama...but I think you get my point.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: Undoubtedly. They all deserved to get in.

Nice to see Chung get some love but I also want Vinterberg to get as many speeches as he can in this awards season since the story behind Another Round is so sad but beautiful.

Louis Morgan said...

Foster the funk....At least it wasn't Close though.

Aidan Pittman said...

I honestly think this might help Youn's Oscar chances...

Louis Morgan said...

Aidan:

It could.

Calvin Law said...

Anyone that isn't Close is a W for me.

Tim said...

Foster ... you know what, i am just happy that I am not going to kill somebody now because of a pirate from Hook

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Indeed, and really this result was probably the best for Youn, though I do have to say Colman was robbed.

Calvin Law said...

Having seen all of the nominees, definitely. I actually thought she had a shot considering the number of The Father noms.

Louis Morgan said...

Well Boseman will be sweeping then, and I guess Hopkins really probably doesn't care that much given that he didn't even show up to a zoom call.

Louis Morgan said...

Zhao wins, thank goodness.

Luke Higham said...

Please be Mulligan.

Louis Morgan said...

Wow Borat wins comedy (nice choice), though even odder that Bakalova lost.

Louis Morgan said...

And Cohen wins.

Tim said...

now that was obvious considering the order

Louis Morgan said...

Day wins.....I hate you globes.

Luke Higham said...

Kiss my arse. :(

Bryan L. said...

Ahhh.............dammit.

Tim said...

i ..... did not see that coming i can say

Louis Morgan said...

Though thankfully Day was not nominated for SAG so Mulligan can still find her momentum potentially.

Louis Morgan said...

Nomadland wins picture, I will not say picture is done, but this does help it a lot, since they are often a more populist group.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Well that was a chaotic Globes.

Bryan L. said...

Went off on a strong note with Nomadland at least.

Tim said...

i am almost 100% sure that Day is going to be like Nick Nolte in 91

Aidan Pittman said...

I'm just confused now.

Emi Grant said...

I ended up falling asleep before the Globes started so I only caught the last hour of it. I've still got to catch up with a LOT of the nominees, but out of those I've seen.

I'm happy for Nomadland's wins (despite not necessarily being its biggest fan).

Sorkin winning makes sense given that the Globes seem to like him (remember him winning screenplay for Steve Jobs despite not getting the Academy Award nomination, anyone?). So, it's probably not all said and done, even though TTOTC7 does have much better momentum.

Good on Boseman winning, Soul's score taking it and Kaluuya starting off a good note. These are eventual wins that I'd love seeing down the road.

Andra Day over Mulligan was so disappointing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as me seeing a clip of Close with the Golden Globe on the show's outro and forgetting it was the one where she won 2 years ago and thinking instead it was her winning for Hilbilly Elegy earlier in the night, which nearly made me lose faith in human kind.

Calvin Law said...

This has been the most bizarre ceremony in some time.

Calvin Law said...

Promising Young Woman and The Father both going winless considering how much the Globes seemed to love them is...odd.

Calvin Law said...

Also does anyone else think that late releases might've been more beneficial than we might have expected as far as the Globes are concerned? Considering that Day, Kaluuya, Pike and Foster all starred in releases from the past month or so.

Matt Mustin said...

Calvin: The Globes purpose, if it has one, is to get new movies seen. Even last year, they gave Best Picture to 1917 before it had even come out yet.

Michael McCarthy said...

Louis: Did you ever settle on a rating for Andra Day?

Also I just caught up with the Globes and here are my three biggest takeaways:

1. Am I the only one who's kind of psyched at how there are two acting races (Lead & Supporting Actress) that are still very hard to predict as far as who will actually win the Oscar? I mean neither of the Globe winners are locks for a nomination even, which is rare.

2. Rosamund Pike's win was bad, but her speech somehow was soooo much worse.

3. I like The Crown, but Emma Corrin was the only deserving winner tonight from that series in my opinion. I know I'm not alone in my criticism of Gillian Anderson as Margaret Thatcher, but am I really the only one who thinks Josh O'Connor's work is profoundly overrated? To me he wasn't much more than a parade of pouty faces and hunched over poses. On that note, Erin Doherty's work in that series is being criminally ignored.

Bryan L. said...

I also just realized that Mank was shutout, which I feel is worth mentioning since it received the most nominations on the film side. Hhmmmm...

Bryan L. said...

Michael: Same here (regarding your 1st point). At least there's some suspense in the acting races this time, compared to the beginning-end sweeps from last year.

Calvin Law said...

Michael: I think Day is a lock for the fifth spot now, but Supporting Actress just got a whole lot more interesting.

Anonymous said...

Andra day winning is the globes version of Jon Cryer winning at the Emmy's.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I will say that it's pretty hilarious how the Globes always find a way to throw our predictions out on a loop.

As for the winners, I'm still backing Mulligan and Youn to make a comeback at SAG, even though Supporting Actress is wide open now. I'm really happy that Zhao, Boseman and Minari won where they were expected to, and that they don't seem to have screwed up the TV side of things (referring to Taylor-Joy and Catherine O'Hara's wins here).

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on a 50's Full Metal Jacket (set in WW2) with Robert Ryan as Hartman?

Louis Morgan said...

Michael:

A 4.

Anonymous:

Well I assume Korean war then, but yes I could see it.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your ratings for Lowell and Greenfield? Also, are there any rating upgrades for the rest of the cast.

Razor said...

Louis: Yeah, also your thoughts on Adam Brody in PYW.

Anonymous said...

Apparently john Boyega was deemed supporting because he won for small axe as a whole and not just the episode he appeared in and they deem him supporting because he only appeared in 1 out of episodes.

Anonymous said...

Louis: How close was roman griffin Davis to a 5 for JoJo rabbit? Because the review really sounds more like a 5 than a 4.5.

Anonymous said...

Also, I just realized that Fargo S4 received no noms at the Globes, which means its Emmy chances might be dead in the water (other than maybe Turman or ock, who got Critics Choice noms)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Well I am not sure about that since schitt's creek one of the shows that was nominated and won at the globes is not eligible at the Emmy's anymore.
Also why did the globes nominate Cynthia Nixon over jessie Buckley, Letitia wright and rhea sheehorn?

Anonymous said...

Louis, have you seen Mauritanian yet?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: He has. he saved Rahim, gave foster a 3.5 and Woodley a 2.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but unlike Comedy (completely empty) and Drama (The Crown is sweeping everything), Limited Series is absolutely full, never mind the red hot WandaVision, The Undoing, I May Destroy You, The Queen's Gambit, It's a Sin, The Good Lord Bird, The Comey Rule etc., there's still a bunch of prestige series coming (Mare of Easttown, The Underground Railroad) coming, and it looks to be a bloodbath. Between these, I don't see Fargo doing much of a splash (again, other than maybe Rock and Turman; Buckley is dead too, she should've gotten a least a Globes nom), especially seeing its muted citical and audience reception (geez, look at the episode ratings on IMDb). Also, FX (who's atypically empty of contenders) is more likely to campaign for Genius: Aretha, since it's more Emmy-friendly (last season got a nod in Best Limited Series even though it was badly received).

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

3.5, I'd move Molina up to a 4.

Razor:

Brody - (I mean I think he gives a fine performance with a very specific purpose, that just as basically prototype natural creep, who slowly reveals himself. Brody doesn't overplay it, really he just plays it just right, which largely functions more so as a setup for Mulligan than something specific for him. It is fine work though in serving that specific purpose.)

Anonymous:

Well he's a strong 4.5 for me, but will stay as such.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Have you watched any more tv shows?

Tim said...

some out-of-nowhere thought:

For some upcoming reviews (and by that i mean just some time in the future, nothing specific) i would personally like to see a ZANE TRAIN performance again, but that might be just me

Luke Higham said...

Tim: I'd like to see Nicolas Cage in The Wicker Man or Jeremy Irons in Dungeons and Dragons.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Walken a 4 or 4.5 for Pulp Fiction.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I would like to see an ironic review for Adam sandler in Jack and jill but.....i do not want to torture Louis through that movie.

Anonymous said...

Luke, do you still intend to request Ray Winstone in Scum next.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I don't know. I might have to let it go for the time being. His performance is one I really want a full review on but if I request him, I keep fearing he'll get a rather similar reaction to Malcolm McDowell in If. I might take the wait and see approach and see how Louis reacts to him first before requesting a review for later on down the line. Doesn't help either that he'll probably see and review him in Nil By Mouth not long before it I think which is the superior portrayal of a bruiser. And I reckon Scott, Ogata, Kinski, Mason and Dewaere will rank higher than him for 79.

Matt Mustin said...

Anonymous: I only want reviews of bad performances that are fun, that's not the case with Sandler.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: Cage might actually be brilliant in The Wicker Man, it's really hard to say.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hey Louis
Tell me what are your TOP7 of the best posters of the years: 1960, 1974, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2008 and 2011

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Thoughts on “A Burns for All Seasons”, specifically “Drink up, Judah Ben-Hur.”

Anonymous said...

I just checked imdb and music actually has a lower score then the room.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Jonny Greenwood as a composer? Also, do you listen to Radiohead.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: On Winstone, if he's only a 4 for Scum then I'm not gonna bother.

Anonymous said...

Luke, your top five Ray Winstone performances

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
1. The Proposition
2. Nil By Mouth
3. Scum
4. Sexy Beast
5. Edge Of Darkness

Matt Mustin said...

Watched Before Sunrise last night. Perfect movie, easy, EASY choice for Best Original Screenplay that year. Hawke and Delpy both 5's.

Louis Morgan said...

Brazinterma:

1960:

1. The Little Shop of Horrors
2. House of Usher
3. La Dolce Vita
4. Rocco and his Brothers
5. Spartacus
6. The Time Machine
7. Exodus

1974:

1. Chinatown (an all timer)
2. Young Frakenstein
3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
4. It's Alive
5. Andy Warhol's Frakenstein
6. Murder on the Orient Express
7. The Sugarland Express

*Great movie bad poster: The Godfather Part 2 (Who is that even supposed to be?)

1984:

1. Amadeus
2. Gremlins
3. A Nightmare on Elm Street
4. Ghostbusters
5. In the Company of Wolves
6. Silent Night Deadly Night
7. Red Dawn

1987:

1. Evil Dead 2
2. Full Metal Jacket
3. InnerSpace
4. Batteries Not Included
5. Empire of the Sun
6. The Stepfather
7. Near Dark

1988:

1. Akira
2. Grave of the Fireflies
3. My Neighbor Totoro
4. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
5. They Live
6. Talk Radio
7. D.O.A

Will do the rest soon.

Robert:

One of my all time favorite Simpsons movie parodies. The very idea of the overblown self-glorification is already great, the Pancho Villa, and ET replaced with Burns are great, but the Ben-Hur one is the greatest. This as the very concept of Burns naturally taking the Jesus role is almost enough, but what I find the best element though is the Heston impression with "You truly are the king of kings" to ram it home to such extreme heights of hilarious egotism. I mean if I watched it I'd definitely be yelling BooURNS.

Tahmeed:

Greenwood's work so far as a composer has been incredible. This with the feature film debut of There Will Be Blood instantly showed a powerful and dynamic composer. This as there is so much like just within his compositions themselves. This though weaving incredible word in terms of ambience and potent melody. His later two scores of The Master and Inherent Vice, I'd say were perhaps less distinct in terms of existing within themselves though still striking score that fulfilled their duty in creating atmosphere. His Phantom Thread Score though made me ask, what more is Greenwood is capable of. This as he while he maintained a degree of his style, he reworked in that amazing Debussy style score, that is gorgeous yet haunting, with such distinct and memorable pieces throughout. This though in a whole new fashion in so many ways, particularly that use of piano that is perfection. I just hope more filmmakers, or at least PTA, keep pushing him as there is clearly an overabundance of talent within his musical abilities.

Can't say I do on the regular.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: In regards to The Godfather Part 2's poster, sre you referring to the theatrical release poster on the film's Wikipedia page?

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Yes, though particularly the yellow, probably teaser, version.

Louis Morgan said...

Brazinterma:

1999:

1. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (Vader Shadow)
2. American Beauty
3. The Iron Giant (Wide)
4. Being John Malkovich
5. Fight Club (Soap)
6. Man on the Moon (Curtain)
7. Titus (Blue face)

2001:

1. Spirited Away (Japanese Painted)
2. LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring (Painted)
3. Sexy Beast (Shadow)
4. From Hell (Straight Design)
5. The Royal Tenenbaums
6. Gosford Park
7. Jeepers Creepers

2003:

1. Memories of Murder (Red Coat)
2. Finding Nemo (Shark)
3. Memories of Murder (Picture)
4. LOTR: Return of the King (Painted)
5. Big Fish
6. Peter Pan
7. Oldboy

2008:

1. The Dark Knight (Joker's back)
2. Cloverfield
3. The Dark Knight (Why so serious)
4. Man on Wire
5. Synecdoche, New York
6. Let the Right One In (Silhouette)
7. Wall-E (Looking Up)

2011:

1. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
2. The Devil's Double
3. The Tree of Life
4. The Artist
5. Midnight in Paris
6. The Ides of March
7. Drive

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Adam Godley, Phoebe Fox, and Sacha Dhawan on The Great?

Emi Grant said...

Louis: How much of Maniac have you seen so far?

Mitchell Murray said...

So I finished the first season of "Yu Yu Hakusho" this morning (shortly after the start of the Dark Tournament), and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'd say it's my favourite of the "traditional" shonen shows that I've seen (IE "Naruto", "Hunter X Hunter", etc.), due to it's consistent tone, balanced pacing and engaging story/characters.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Charles Lang's work in Gunfight at the OK Corral and William Daniels' work in Brute Force.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Jodie Comer playing Josephine in Kitbag. She's great in Killing Eve but fuck, this ageist stance by Hollywood sickens me. I really wanted Cotillard for this role.

Anonymous said...

Ridley Scott or whoever was involved really have dropped the ball on that casting.

Luke Higham said...

Hell, even Juliette Binoche would've made more sense.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Scott must've confused Josephine with Napoleon's second wife. I would've been completely fine with Comer playing Marie Louise.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: It's not out on Netflix yet, but I highly recommend "Jujutsu Kaisen"- easily one of the best new shonen, and knocks stuff like Demon Slayer out of the park.

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on the opening for it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8bZVdTgXoY&ab_channel=TOHOanimation%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB

Matt Mustin said...

Let's not forget that Ridley Scott is also the guy who stacked Exodus with nothing but white dudes.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: As an opening, that's certainly a very good one in both animation and music. On that note, what would be your thoughts on the following OPs?

Gurenge - Demon Slayer
The Day - My Hero Academia
Smile Bomb - Yu Yu Hakusho

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell:

Gurenge- (A great opening, even if it shares a lot of similarities with the first openings of other animes. You have shots of the characters standing still, you have snippets of some of my favourite moments from the show (like the training montage, or Zenistu and Inosuke's shenanigans), while also giving you some sense of the idea of Tanjiro's powers. The animation is wonderful, and I love the song).

The Day- (Just like Gurenge, this opening has become instantly iconic and it's very nostalgic for me, as MHA was one of the first anime that I really took to. It does a great job in setting up Midoriya's plight, having compelling animation from the battle sequences, while also introducing its large cast in a traditional way. My favourite detail of that opening is the fraying black line that represents the central rivalry between Midoriya and Bakugo. While I quite like this opening in terms of the animation and music, I must confess that every subsequent opening has topped it in both regards).

Smile Bomb- (There's a reason that even people who have never heard of Yu Yu Hakusho know this song. It's just crazily infectious and gets you hyped up, while just complementing the animation in every regard. There are definitely quite a few tropes that were typical for 90s anime openings, but this is probably the epitome of that style and vibe that just can't quite be recaptured today).

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

You can find those here:

https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2020/12/alternate-best-actor-1970-richard.html

Emi Grant:

I'm five episodes in, have enjoyed it so far, strong work from both Stone and Hill.

Anonymous:

Daniel's work is strong in being striking and uncompromising, very much befitting a Siegel film. His work is one that very much emphasizes the grey, again quite fitting the world of the prison. The lighting is moody and often remarkable, though often in rather low key fashion. Grants really this sense of grit that is ideal for the story. The most notable work though is the composition of shots, that are really dynamic creating a worldliness in the faces it captures within the prison, but also just granting part of the film's hard edge.

Lang's work in OK Corral, is fine if rather standard technicolor for the time. This as the color is kind of there with the lighting very expected for the period. Everything achieves at least the competence for the time, but nothing about it really adds too much to the film beyond that basic need.

Luke:

Unfortunate, though nothing against Comer (who I don't have much exposure to at the moment), as I think the age should play in part into the relationship, they should be both together with a sense of years. Cotillard would've been a far more appropriate choice.

Tahmeed:

Well that is some gorgeous animation in there, particularly in the high frame rate motions. Always appreciate that atmospheric lighting in animation, so quite liked seeing that there of course. Confused of course. Found the song fine, but a touch repetitive and not too memorable to me.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: If that's the case for "The Day", I'm now even more interested in continuing "My Hero Academia".

I'll also say the next Anime I'm checking will most likely be "Fate/stay night". Afterwards, I'll have an updated ranking in regards to my top ten.

Calvin Law said...

SAG being taped in advance and winners being notified in advance apparently - okay nothing could go wrong with that eh? Lol

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Actually I like the decision, given how bad the Globes were as an actual show. Of course the part anyone actually cares about is who wins, so if the winners leak it could backfire on them. Hopefully they'll NDA everyone and won't have too much of a delay between the notifications/filming and the actual presentation.

Anonymous said...

Louis: When you’ve finished maniac could you please give your thoughts on the show and hill and stone?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I like the idea of pre-recording bits for sure because the Globes show did suck, however I actually did love the sense of immediacy of the people reacting oo their nominations alongside everyone else. That 'in the moment' reaction to win for everyone is definitely what I do like about them.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: Any chance Hanks could go up for Catch Me If You Can? I recently revisited it and have actually come around to him being the MVP. Even with the broad accent, I had entirely forgotten how generous he was in his scenes with DiCaprio and how multilayered he made Carl.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Did you ever think there was any merit to the Shakespeare authorship question?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

What's everyone's predictions for Louis's Lead and Supporting Actor Top 5's?

Lead:
1. Hopkins
2. Mikkelsen
3. Boseman
4. Lindo
5. Yeun

For supporting, I have no idea, but I do think Diggs is a safe bet for the top 5 or top 3.

Anonymous said...

Tahmeed: My predictions for Lead:
1. Mikkelsen.
2. Hopkins.
3. Lindo.
4. Yeun.
5. Boseman.
My predictions For supporting:
1. Hugh laurie.
2. Brian dennehy.
3. Ben Mendelsohn.
4. Paul raci.
5. Either Nicholas hoult or daveed diggs.

Matt Mustin said...

I really don't see the big deal about Hoult in that movie.

Anonymous said...

Matt: I understand that but since louis likes the movie more than you i still predict hoult getting a five. If hoult gets a 4.5 I would replace him with diggs.

Calvin Law said...

Tahmeed: for Lead, I have absolutely no clue because I also think Ahmed has a really strong shot at being in the top 5, so much of his film hinges upon his performance. It’s actually crazy how much he’s risen up the rankings in Lead Actor predictions. Much as I love Yeun’s performance I could see him be ‘just’ sixth in a very strong year on account of screentime.

For Supporting,

1. Raci
2. Laurie
3. Mendelsohn
4. Dennehy
5. Diggs

Calvin Law said...

And the rest of the lead top 10 will be Oldman (who I still think will get a 5), Patel, Ben-Adir and Rahim.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I'm thinking for Lead:

1. Mikkelsen
2. Hopkins
3. Lindo
4. Ahmed
5. Boseman

and Supporting:

1. Mendelsohn
2. Raci
3. Dennehy
4. Diggs
5. LAurie

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Calvin: Yeah, that 5th spot is a crap shoot between Yeun and Ahmed in my predictions. The reason I went for Yeun is because it's the type of Gosling-esque minimalist performance that I think Louis really appreciates, alongside Minari being his preferred film between the two.

Calvin Law said...

Tahmeed: Agreed. His performance reminds me a lot of Gosling in First Man, so that could potentially bode well for him.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Personally I liked Yeun, but was more impressed with Han and Youn. They were really the film's backbone more than him.

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