Tuesday 4 September 2018

Alternate Best Actor 1975: Charles Bronson in Hard Times

Charles Bronson did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Chaney in Hard Times.

Hard Times is an entertaining enough film about a street brawler and gambler during the great depression.

In the primary lead role you have Charles Bronson in a role that was written with a younger man in mind, as this drifter who goes around just scraping by through fights. This is an interesting casting choice, but really an essential element in granting the film a bit more of an emotional impact than it might have had otherwise. On the surface Bronson certainly proves worthy of the role as he is wholly convincing as a fighter even at his age at the time of filming. In addition to that he is quite simply one of the great stoic badasses from the period. This is to the point that he makes a fellow stoic badass James Coburn look properly weak as the gambler, Speed, who bankrolls Bronson's Chaney. Bronson simply commands the screen as to be expected both in terms of offering that sort of physical intimidation needed for the character, but also just the power of the spirits embodied within that. Bronson is this force of a man that the film needs, of a man driven within the fight, which Bronson realizes so effectively without even raising his voice. He rather creates that calm cool that makes Chaney both appealing and intimidating.

Of course the film as written by Walter Hill is pretty bare bones, however that isn't not explicitly a negative value in film, or this film. It is rather an approach and what matters is what is within this approach. The script is already elevated to be sure by Hill's own direction which creates a vibrancy in the period through the aesthetic he realizes. According to Hill's own design for the film though there is not suppose to be a moral to this story. It is rather just a story that is engaging. Now if one inflicts just that much style one can overcome the lack of a thematic weight, however it is still a bit of a challenge. Bronson helps to alleviate this problem through his performance that creates within itself a certain substance that likely would've been completely absent with a bland performer in the role. Bronson can be stoic, however he is not bland as there is more than a shallow fighter within his eyes. It is in those eyes that define his best work, this performance included. It is interesting in that the tough Bronson, when relying on this quality becomes a deeply emotional performer.

We see this in his first scene where he approaches Speed and the fighting den. In Bronson's eyes we see the weight of a life of hardship in his eyes, and in this conveys that with his age has come much experience. An experience that is never illustrated in dialogue however is sensed through Bronson's performance which carries this weight. A weight that makes the fight as much of a life line for the man, well beyond the monetary compensation within it. Although Chaney is never a vulnerable character, Bronson creates a certain vulnerability surrounded by the defense of his might as fighter. A vulnerability that alludes to a desperation again within his eyes that create such a potency in terms of a life he seems to try to avoid. This is also shown in his scenes with local woman, that don't wholly work only because Jill Ireland in the role, despite being Bronson's real life wife, is a bit stiff in the part. Bronson does not falter in his side though by bringing out a definite charm but with this certain emotional distance. A distance he portrays as a reluctance though, as again he shows the honest fear at what the relationship would brings out of him in the most expressive part of his face, yet still overall maintain a near facade of a man who simply toughens everything out. Although Chaney in the end does not change, Bronson's performance does take the character and the film further by hinting at the potential to do so, while also creating a stronger sense of the man's motivation throughout the film.

80 comments:

Anonymous said...

Louis: So what do you think of Walter Hill as a director?

Calvin Law said...

Thoughts and ratings on the rest of the cast? I think we’re in complete agreement on him and the film; liked but didn’t love the film, really liked him. And also agree on the BCS episode, remarkable how Odenkirk could flit ‘back’ into character so seamlessly.

Calvin Law said...

And a 2010s version of this:
Chaney - Russell Crowe/Josh Brolin
Speed - Ben Mendelsohn
Lucy - Sarah Gadon
Poe - Bill Irwin

John Smith said...

1. Munzuk
2. Mitchum
3. Bronson
4. Tognazzi
5. Dreyfuss

GM said...

1. Munzuk
2. Mitchum
3. Bronson
4. Tognazzi
5. Dreyfuss

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the production design, sound editing and cinematography of Battleground.

RatedRStar said...

The Warriors seemed to be a similar film from Hill in that it has not much of a script whatsoever but its direction is amazingly done.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these scenes from X-Men First Class and Days of Future Past-
https://youtu.be/ZPpOv15KhZw
https://youtu.be/iFUei1nB4CY
https://youtu.be/sOox2CGhRw8

RatedRStar said...

I am at work and bored so I just thought I would do a list of the films ranging from how excited/interested I am to how not excited/interested I am to see them in terms of this years realistic Oscar contenders.

1. First Man
2. The Old Man and The Gun
3. Widows
4. The Other Side of The Wind
5. BlackKKlansman
6. Green Book
7. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
8. Beautiful Boy
9. Roma
10. Boy Erased
11. If Beale Street Could Talk
12. The Favorite
13. A Star is Born
14. Can You Ever Forgive Me
15. Peterloo
16. At Eternity's Gate
17. Bohemian Rhapsody
18. Mary, Queen of Scots
19. Destroyer
20. Wildlife
21. The Front Runner
22. The Wife
23. Backseat
24. Welcome to Marween
25. On the Basis of Sex

Luke Higham said...

The Other Side Of The Wind is my most anticipated.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Ten historical figures you want to see biopics about, and your choice of actor and director for each film.

John Smith said...

Am i the only one who found the 'A står is born' trailer terrible? Hopefully the movie live up to expectations... but im not that hopefull

Robert MacFarlane said...

A Star is Born probably has the best trailer of the year. I’m not saying I’m going to love it (no clue until I see it).

Mitchell Murray said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRciN3PJLqQ

Beyond the pairing of Mikkelson and Dafoe, I think the movie looks promising, Dafoe even more so. I'm glad that after his wonderful turn in "The Florida Project", Dafoe is getting another complex role that's not an obvious villain.

RatedRStar said...

1. Munzuk
2. Mitchum
3. Bronson
4. Dreyfuss
5. Tognazzi

Michael McCarthy said...

I think the trailer for A Star Is Born has one slightly awkward editing moment. Other than that I really dig it.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: This may be abit soon to ask but have you seen The Naked Civil Servant.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Heads up, they’re campaigning Foster as Supporting in Leave No Trace. I haven’t seen it, so I don’t know how big of category fraud that is.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: I can see the reasoning behind that, but I don't agree with it. The movie is squarely from Mackenzie's perspective, but it's really a two character piece.

Calvin Law said...

Not the worst category fraud ever. I can buy it and it will probably greatly improve his chances.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I saw The Wife. Pretty mediocre overall. Close is good, but I hope they don't ramrod her to win.

Michael McCarthy said...

Robert: What did you think of Slater? He ended up being my second favorite of the cast, and I thought the interview scene was the best of the film.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Michael: Honestly he WAS my favorite in the film, and that interview scene was definitely its high point.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on the production design of Skyfall?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top 10 Brendan Gleeson and Leslie Nielsen acting moments?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: if you’ve seen it, thoughts on the new It’s Always Sunny episode.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Louis made this list before seeing Into The Storm and Paddington 2.

Gleeson:

1. The Tower - In Bruges
2. "On Ragland Road" - In Bruges
3. In the Park With Ray - In Bruges
4. Walk to the beach - Calvary
5. How do gunshots feel - The Guard
6. Cahill and the inspector - The General
7. Inappropriate comments - The Guard
8. What side would he fight for? - In Bruges
9. Finding the dead birds - The General
10. Proper shootout - The Guard
11. The kid's death - Six Shooter
12. Meeting Harry for a drink - In Bruges
13. Rabbit - Six Shooter
14. Crucifixion interrogation - The General
15. Infection - 28 Days Later
16. Finding his dog - Calvary
17. Hearing about the alcoves - In Bruges
18. No credit for fourth place - the Guard
19. Bloody Shakespearean - Gangs of New York
20. Bar "fight" - Calvary

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this trailer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xydpJL5y1iM

Luke Higham said...

Robert: What rating do you think David Tomlinson will get for Mary Poppins. Louis hasn't seen it since he was a child so I hope he'll get a 4.5.

Calvin Law said...

Kursk trailer was strangely paced, but the actual footage looks pretty great in terms of the cast and story.

New Halloween trailer was great though I have to say, stay away from it everyone, it probably spoils one too many scares.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your rating for Charlotte Rampling in Angel Heart.

Bryan L. said...

The Academy is thankfully putting the "Best Popular Film" idea on the shelf... for now.

RatedRStar said...

RIP Burt Reynolds..

Luke Higham said...

RIP Burt Reynolds

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: What are your thoughts on this interview with Crispin Glover? It's...odd. https://youtu.be/lcG61w474zY


R.I.P. Burt Reynolds.

Emi Grant said...

R.I.P. Burt Reynolds

Bryan L. said...

RIP Burt Reynolds

Mitchell Murray said...

Calvin: To late on the Halloween trailer, but honestly I think the movie looks even more decent now.

Bryan L: Thank heavens - they really dodged a bullet on that one I feel. Now its just a matter of what they'll do instead to boost ratings.

Rest in peace, Burt Reynolds.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Well the trailer itself I thought was cut terribly, however I liked the look of everything within it.

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Anonymous:

Hill is a director I might compare to John Carpenter, though I'd say Carpenter achieved greater heights, but both were perhaps underrated in their time in regards to ambition. They both made greater strides in terms of dynamic film making though this was perhaps hand waved as they were Genre filmmakers, filling in sort of this mainstream fringe. Hill's work in this film, and The Warriors has trademarks of a pioneer, in his attempt to create a certain potent minimalism. Although I wouldn't deem the films masterpieces by any stretch of the imagination they are of a filmmaker with a true vision, who was trying to expand the medium in his own way. Of course his ambitious half-life was perhaps somewhat short lived, as by 48 Hrs. this approach was fairly reduced, though that film is certainly very competently made in that more standard approach. Sadly, like Carpenter, he also seemed to lose that creative spark for the most part in his later years as he still makes films however they are almost universally panned.

Calvin:

Coburn - 3.5(Interesting to see Coburn to play second banana, and I'm not sure it quite seems to fit him. He still gives a good performance to be sure, offering his typical charisma to his role. He is though rather overshadowed by Bronson, and strangely this never feels like quite the ideal pairing, which is strange because they are actually rather similair performers in my mind.)

Martin - 3.5(Brings the right pathos within the overarching caricature idea of the drunken doctor. Martin handles it well bringing just enough of a warmth within his work, while never shying from the "sweaty" style of the man.)

Ireland - 2(Yeah she's sadly just rather bland here, and as mentioned above lacks a proper chemistry with Bronson here.)

Definitely Brolin for Chaney.

Enjoyed the episode, particularly the moment of the return of the "GOLDEN GOD", however I honestly think they could've stretched out the idea within a two parter as it did feel just slightly rushed in the idea.

Anonymous:

The production design is simply stunning for Battleground as you'd never even guess that it was entirely shot in studio. It always feels wholly real and it is remarkable how palatable the atmosphere of the "location" is throughout the film with such attention to every detail of the forest in which the battle takes place. This is not only in terms of creating a believable war torn setting, but also creating such a powerful sense of the cold that helps to define the conflict.

The film's sound editing is pioneering work for a war film at the time. Just on another level from other films that came before setting a new standard for at least that time. The work in the blizzard dogfight is particularly incredibly.

The cinematography also puts a lot of war films from the time to shame. It is especially notable for the time in its choice to only really use a purity of white in the snow while lighting the men and the trees in shades of grey. It too works within creating such a sense of the cold, while lending a real power to the images that evoke the real images of the battle. This is within such vibrant framing and composition which both creates this sense of the soldiers together, while also making the forest seem all the more isolating. It never feels like it shows off, yet has such brilliant moments of pure style that seem so natural. Whether it is lonely soldiers in the fog, or the amazing shot of the sun finally coming through the clouds, it all feels wholly natural to the established aesthetic.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Magneto in the bar is what the whole film should have been about, even though I like the film as a whole, the scene is from a great film, rather than a good one. Fassbender gives one of his best acted scenes in creating such a raw intensity in Magneto's revenge, and Vaughn's direction is by the most on point on every front. One in creating such a viscerally intense action, but also just in so effectively building it all up through some fairly impressive cinematography as well as use of music. I'd say it is pretty easy to argue that the scene represents the film Vaughn probably wanted to make.

The satellite however is also a strong scene as it is a convincing moment in terms of building the friendship between the two men, which is well acted by McAvoy, and particularly Fassbender again who brings such genuine emotion out of the idea of honing magneto's power.

The final scene I'd say the emotion is there through Fassbender and especially McAvoy's performance, however the direction does slip slightly towards the more cheesy side of things in parts of its execution of the moment, though in no way makes it a bad scene.

Gladstone/Disraeli (Starring Daniel Day-Lewis/Brendan Gleeson dir. PTA)
Theodore Roosevelt (South American Expedition) - (Starring Viggo Mortensen dir. Werner Herzog)
Jack Churchill (Starring Tom Hardy dir. George Miller)
Simon Bolivar (Starring Oscar Isaac dir. James Gray)
Amakusa Shiro (Starring unknown dir. Mel Gibson)
Albert Goring (Starring Mark Rylance dir. Steven Spielberg)
Cromwell (Starring Damian Lewis dir. Ridley Scott)
Warren G. Harding (Starring Jim Carter dir. Armando Iannucci)
John Paul Jones (Starring Guy Pearce dir. Peter Weir)
Catherine the Great (Starring Mia Wasikowska directed by Nikolaj Arcel)

Matt:

Outstanding production design and perhaps the best in any Bond film. It is a proper combination of the stylish Bond one would expect whether in an overt way like the casino, or a more low key sleek such as in the skyscraper. It eloquently combines a certain "realism" in the design, but even in that it is particularly well done. For example even Bond's cottage home, is indeed just a cottage, just also just so wonderful in how it is realized. The best piece of design though is Silva's layer which is again is this great combination of the grand, the size of the room, against the pseudo-realism of the purpose of the motherboards.

While I get what Glover is saying, methinks he might be taking a bit too much credit to himself with the ending objection, where I'd say he also took a little too narrow of a perspective on. He obviously has a bit of an axe to grind, I will say partially deserved with what they did in II, however it does lend to perhaps making the whole discussion something one should take with a grain of salt.
















RIP Burt Reynolds

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Paul Bettany as an actor, his voice and past film roles for him? I kind of see what you mean when you mentioned that he had potential to be the heir apparent to Richard Attenborough, since he also seems to be quite magnetic.

Matt Mustin said...

I just saw Eyes Wide Shut for the first time. Tom Cruise is a *must* for that year's reviews.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the sound editing, sound mixing, editing and cinematography of The Conversation.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on 'Camelot' and the reprise.

Who are your top ten most promising actors and actresses under the age of 35 and your reasons why.

I'd leave out Emma Stone and Carey Mulligan since I feel they're already proven to be great actresses.

Are they any roles during Christopher Lee and John Huston's lifetimes that they would've been great/perfect for.

If you're planning on re-watching both Attenborough and Bogart back to back at some point, could you let us know if Bogart keeps the win.

Anonymous said...

Louis: So, back in August, it was reported that Wes Anderson's next film is gonna be a musical set in post-World War II France. We still don't know what the story's gonna be about, but if Anderson plays his cards well, we could have another La La Land on our hands.

Dan Gilroy's next project is a horror thriller film that will be set in the contemporary art world of Los Angeles and will have a Robert Altman-like ensemble cast and a The Player vibe to it. Gilroy said in an interview that the story will be told through different characters. Gyllenhaal, Russo, Malkovich and Colette will have roles. After how his last film turned out, I hope it's another Nightcrawler. And of course, Gyllenhaal needs a role meaty enough that he'll give a great performance.

PTA has also written a 600-page script. But I know that you'll say that any upcoming PTA project always intrigues you and that's the case with me as well.

Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Louis: What are your top twenty movie scripts of all time?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: What is Michael Fassbender's rating for X-Men First Class and Apocalypse.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: 4 and 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Lastly, are there any other 4s for 1948 Supporting Actress.

Michael McCarthy said...

Does anyone else have a ranking for the drama acting nominees at the Emmys this year? Here are mine:

Lead Actor:

1. Matthew Rhys
2. Jeffrey Wright
3. Milo Ventimiglia
4. Sterling K. Brown
5. Ed Harris (would be higher if it weren't for the meandering writing towards the end)
6. Jason Bateman

Lead Actress:

1. Elisabeth Moss
2. Keri Russell
3. Tatiana Maslany
4. Claire Foy
5. Sandra Oh
6. Evan Rachel Wood

Supporting Actor:

1. David Harbour
2. Matt Smith
3. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
4. Peter Dinklage
5. Mandy Patinkin
6. Joseph Fiennes

Supporting Actress:

1. Yvonne Strahovski
2. Thandie Newton
3. Millie Bobby Brown
4. Ann Dowd
5. Vanessa Kirby
6. Alexis Bledel
7. Lena Headey

Luke Higham said...

Outlaw King and Kursk aren't doing well.

Mitchell Murray said...

Michael: Might I ask why Jason Bateman is last? I haven't seen "Ozark", but I here mostly strong things about his performance.

Luke: That's a shame, honestly.

Omar Franini said...

1. Munzuk
2. Dreyfuss
3. Mitchum
4. Bronson
5. Tognazzi


Michael: Why did you rank Joseph Fiennes last? And how would you rank the cast for the second season of Handmaid’s Tale?

R.I.P. Burt Reynolds

Anonymous said...

Louis: your top 20 michael fassbender acting moments

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Anonymous: Louis posted this on his review for Michael Redgrave in The Browning Version, although I think it'll change-
1. The foal - Hunger
2. "How goes the queen" - Macbeth
3. "Scorpions is my mind" - Macbeth
4. The David Commercial - Prometheus marketing campaign
5. The Flogging - 12 Years a Slave
6. Argument with Sculley in the second section - Steve Jobs
7. The bar - Inglourious Basterds
8. "Welcoming Smile" - Frank
9. Rochester declares his love - Jane Eyre
10. "Hola" - The Counselor

Michael McCarthy said...

Mitchell: Bateman is consistently solid and compelling in Ozark, but his performance never quite excited me like the rest. I feel like the best of it is yet to come.

Omar: I love The Handmaid's Tale, but I seem to be in the minority that thinks Fiennes is really weak in his role. He plays Waterford as such an obvious creep from the very beginning, which is a shame because if he'd been a little bit more casual and naturalistic in the first season when the Commander was being "nice," I think the character's actions this season would have hit a lot harder.

1. Strahovski
2. Moss
3. Dowd
4. Bledel
5. Brewer
6. Sweeney
7. Whitford
8. Lynch
9. Tomei
10. Fagbenie
11. Wiley
12. Fiennes
13. Minghella

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Bettany is an actor whose biggest failing seems to be his career, which is a strange condition to have. This is especially strange since it doesn't seem like he made any obvious bad choices like say a Mickey Rourke, it just never quite happened for him despite some high profile films. This is with Bettany being both rather charismatic with a considerable dramatic range. This is usually all that one needs. His early work is particularly that of dynamic firebrand sort of actor that one would have assumed was only the beginning not unlike a young Attenborough or Tom Courtenay. This just suddenly sputtered, though his ability hasn't waned as even his work as Vision his talent comes through. It is shame his career has become so stunted though, as it isn't that he's lost anything, he just never seems to be given the chance to show of his abilities.

His voice is that of a powerful English, that sort of has this rather proper in-between quality as it works both as a crass cockney, and more refined upper class.

Gatiss (A Dandy in Aspic)
Tom Curtis (The Angry Silence)
Richard Hannay (39 Steps)

Anonymous:

Well The Conversation is all about sound as a film, so of course the sound design is fittingly masterful. The use of sound is perhaps the most dynamic in its mixing that not only creates such a powerful atmosphere within the films constant playing with the idea, but also how it manipulates you, as it does Harry, directly through it. Most notably the Harry listening into the hotel room. There is no simple noise in the film which is realizes through as even a bit distortion in its editing creates such a notable effect. It creates this fascinating tapestry of sounds that are both enigmatic yet also cohesive in terms of execution. Few films make you listen as intently, and this fixation is realized through its brilliant however seemingly effortless editing and mixing.

Of course an essential ingredient to that sound coming together the way it does is the actual editing of the film. The masterful opening sequence alone should have granted it a nomination especially over the horribly clunky and laborious work within The Towering Inferno and Earthquake, but I digress. The editing though is essential in creating not only the idea of the surveillance, in the cutting between the target and the observer, but also the stream of consciousness of the observe. This creating a palatable sense of paranoia as the editing creates the possible ideas in your mind as it does Harry, crafting such a powerful tension that only grows within the film.

The cinematography is the least stylistic of Coppola's four masterpieces photographed by the decidedly lesser known Scott Butler than Gordon Willis or Vittorio Storaro anyways. The film is not as notable visually as those films, however that isn't saying much given how well shot those films are. The film is more typical seventies pristine in some ways in terms of Butler's work. Although there are certainly some brilliantly realized shots throughout, particularly a certain vibrant red involving a toilet. The work though is effective in its mostly unassuming qualities that are still make for a very well shot film, particularly within Coppola's masterful direction, even if it isn't one of the clearest elements one takes from the film.

Luke:

I'd say I rather love the song, and on a side note I'd say it is a musical that I'd get behind a remake of given this one was directed by talent less hack, I mean Joshua Logan. The main song is such wonderfully rousing piece, if realized with such a clunky visual sense, through Harris's particularly welcoming tone he brings to the song, where Burton brough a more directly regal tone (I like both honestly though). Love the reprise more through it having such a powerful melancholy, helped by the sequence being left mainly to the song and Harris's performance of it.

Louis Morgan said...

Well I guess to keep your idea I'll disqualify anyone with two fives.

1. Paul Dano (Although perhaps he's already achieved his promise, still worth noting given his daring and dynamic performances as of late.)
2. Elle Fanning (Seems a bit of cheat given my consistent praise of her, but it is worth saying that her work has been quite simply remarkable. Showing such great promise with such grand emotional range that doesn't seem to be slowing as she grows as an actress.)
3. Robert Pattinson - (Well Good Time would make any actor promising, but that along with his work in Lost City of Z and even the Rover is that of an actor well worth watching see come into his true talent.)
4. Margot Robbie (Well I, Tonya, more than proved her greatness I'd say. It showed a daring in her work, which is always a marvelous combination with an inherent charisma. It seems to be her intention to push herself, which only makes her all the more promising in my mind.)
5. Jesse Plemons - (Simply a consistently compelling performer, though someone who seems a good ten years older than he is, who I find is most often fascinating in his unique approaches to roles.)
6. Anya Taylor-Joy (Well just consistently striking work from what I've seen with a notable somewhat atypical presence that is always a particularly engaging quality performer to have.)
7. Michael B. Jordan - (I mean just a proper star being currently realized.)
8. Shia LaBeouf - (Eh, I'll put him here as I feel he's broaching the right path now as actor, now starting to deliver on the promise of his profile)
9. Lakeith Stanfield - (Already proving to be such varied and talented performer, who finds a real depth within even his more minor roles.)
10. Alden Ehrenreich - (Obnoxious how much BS bad press he got before Solo, as though he isn't Harrison Ford, he is his own leading man in the making with his own charisma, and grand range I hope we are going to see more of soon.)

Lee:

Iago
John Claggart
George III
Huston:

Arthur Jensen
General Ripper
Senator Crocker Jarman

No.

Anonymous:

Anderson/Musical seems like a dream pairing between a director and genre. So I hope that sticks.

I hope Gilroy's expansiveness is more focused this time as the problem with Roman Israel was how unwieldy that narrative was. Hopefully he can focus within the vignettes.

Well, yes, if PTA wants to make a 3 hour plus epic, I'm all in.

Anonymous:

All the President's Men
Amadeus
Back to the Future
Barton Fink
The Bridge on the River Kwai
Chinatown
The Conversation
Dr. Strangelove
In Bruges
It's A Wonderful Life
The Godfather Part II
Goodfellas
L.A. Confidential
Lawrence of Arabia
Magnolia
The Shawshank Redemption
Sunset Boulevard
Rashomon
The Third Man
Unforgiven

Anonymous said...

Louis: How would have you improved Mississippi Burning in order to make it a 5-star movie? And which cinematographer would have you picked instead of Biziou?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Carey Mulligan a 4.5 or 5 for An Education. As far as I know, she's only got 1 five so far with Far From The Madding Crowd.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I agree with having Dano on the list in terms of film work, because I'd give him an easy five for War & Peace, If I were to give ratings for TV performances.

I find it rather difficult to see where Will Poulter's career is heading.

Luke Higham said...

1. Munzuk
2. Dreyfuss
3. Mitchum
4. Bronson
5. Tognazzi

Anonymous said...

1. Munzuk
2. Dreyfuss
3. Bronson
4. Mitchum
5. Tognazzi

Luke Higham said...

Matt: Your thoughts on Clark, Headey, Dance, Dinklage, Dillane, Cunningham, Allen and McCann in Game Of Thrones.

Luke Higham said...

*Clarke

Anonymous said...

1. Munzuk
2. Dreyfuss
3. Mitchum
4. Bronson
5. Tognazzi

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Michael Seresin for cinematographer, who could've created a similarly atmospheric though less stylized aesthetic that he realized with Parker in Angel Heart.

Mississippi Burning's flaws are particularly complex, and are fundamentally sewn within the narrative. One could argue it is the film perhaps Edward Zwick developed all his socially conscious action films around, which share similair question involving perspective, but also the nature of the use of "action" in the films. I will say one simple flaw one could have alleviated was directing the "action" scenes with a less sort of "enticing" approach. I don't think the perspective issue is an unquestionably flaw within Burning though as the most powerful material from the film is through its examination of how hate develops and festers. The best scene in the film is probably when Hackman's character explains the story of his father. In addition the FBI are who launched the initial investigation, though would could argue a flaw was perhaps that at the time of when the film was made there was still more to be uncovered. The solutions are not simple though as one could argue that Parker should have constrained the narrative, or expanded it to handle the perspective of the mistreated local African American population. Neither would be a simple fix, but would require a massive restructuring of the entire film.

Luke:

Well I disqualified Mulligan based on your disqualification.

RatedRStar said...

Predator reviews are out, "just acceptable" I think is the general consensus which is probably about as good as it would have gotten with the terrible marketing its had.

Anonymous said...

Beautiful Boy got middling to slightly positive reviews, so I guess we're still waiting on that outright critical flop.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I knew that, Just misunderstood on the no 2 fives rule.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Agreed on Bettany, and it's at least comforting that he can still get work in a high-profile film like Infinity War nowadays.

Lastly, your 40s and 50s cast for Gone Girl with Hitchcock as director? And are there any other actresses you think could've been better as Amy Dunne than Rosamund Pike? I think Michelle Monaghan could've worked, for example, since it could've been a great subversion of her Harmony Lane.

Anonymous said...

Louis: I recall you giving Mississippi Burning a 4. Judging from what you said about the film, it seems like your opinion on it has degraded ever since.

Bryan L: He made these two Gone Girl casts two years ago.

Gone Girl (40's) (Wilder)

Nick: William Holden
Amy: Joan Fontaine
Desi Collings: Elisha Cook Jr.
Tanner Bolt: Edward G. Robinson
Margo: Ida Lupino
Detective Rhonda: Myrna Loy

Gone Girl (50's) (Hitchcock)

Nick: Burt Lancaster
Amy: Eva Marie Saint
Desi Collings: Jack Lemmon
Tanner Bolt: Ray Milland
Margo: Beatrice Straight
Detective Rhonda: Claire Trevor

Mitchell Murray said...

Anonymous: "Mississipi Burning" is one of those strange pictures the academy loved at the time. It's dated to be sure, not to mention heavily inaccurate, but the heart of its story is certainly in the right place, and the performances of Hackman and McDormand are quite strong.

Luke Higham said...

Roma, Dafoe and Colman win in Venice.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

No, my opinion on the film is more or less the same, I was just specifically looking at the major flaws there.

Bryan:

Well Monaghan is a fine choice, honestly anyone with talent who has sort of naturally warm presence would have been a better choice. I think though that relates to Fincher's strange decision to never to allow a true mystery to exist both through casting the typically icy Pike, and to have the early scene where Nick is confused about the "crime scene".

Luke:

Well I am glad to see that the Netflix bias didn't infect Venice.

And not a bad start in terms of buzz for Colman and Dafoe, even though both cups rarely translate down the road.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Before he set his eyes on making The Fly, Cronenberg was working on a script of Total Recall for about a year but the producers didn't agree with his vision. He was interested in having William Hurt playing the main role, funnily enough. While I do find Verhoeven's film to be a fun film, I feel that Cronenberg's version would have been a lot better.

I kinda wish he had done Total Recall instead of Naked Lunch.

Oh, and uh, who would have you chosen to direct M. Butterfly instead of Cronenberg?

Anonymous said...

Louis: And honestly, I'm kinda glad that Jodorowsky never made Dune, because if he did, we might have never gotten Alien. I recall H.R. Giger was going to work on the film.

Also, here's the concept art for Cronenberg's Total Recall:
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/concept_art_for_david_cronenbergs_total_recall

Matt Mustin said...

Luke:

Clarke-(She's good in the first season where Daenerys is more out of her element, but after that, she's not terrible but she just doesn't have anywhere near the charisma that the show suggests that she should have. She's constantly winning over entire hostile cities just through how supposedly persuasive and charismatic she is, but Clarke just doesn't deliver on that for me. Her smaller moments are generally good, though.)

Headey-(Good as the ice queen and she has an effectively strange chemistry with Coster-Waldau. I also love all the scenes with her and Diana Rigg. The highlight of her performance so far though, for me, is the "Mother's Mercy" episode where she's absolutely amazing.)

Dance-(Didn't realize how great he was until he wasn't there anymore. Dance is fantastic in that he always stays calm, but he absolutely controls the room, and behind everything, despite never really breaking out of that calm demeanor, you can see the very real menace he carries at all times.)

Dinklage-(Well, what I can say? He's amazing. Probably the most entertaining performance in the series, although I'll admit to being particularly fond of the sardonic deadpan snarker type character in general. Dinklage of course goes further showing that this attitude is really kind of a survival method for him, as he's surrounded by people in his own family who look down on him. There's a lifetime of pain and anger under the surface of Tyrion and of course this all comes to a head during the famous trial in season 4, which is quite honestly some of the greatest acting I've ever seen period.)

Matt Mustin said...

Dillane-(Very interesting to learn that he didn't care about the show, because that doesn't read in his performance at all, although it makes sense because the show doesn't seem to care about him. Nevertheless, Dillane gives a very interesting performance as Stannis, showing us a man who will stop at nothing to get what he believes he's entitled to, and he has a wonderful off-beat chemistry with Cunningham.)

Cunningham-(One of the most likeable characters in the series. He brings such an effortless amount of charm and warmth to a show that very much needs it, and in doing so creates a very interesting dynamic with Dillane.)

Allen-(Completely amazing, and a performance I can't praise enough. He's the main reason I consider season 2 to the best of the series. Allen somehow takes one of the most loathsome characters in the beginning of the show and slowly, carefully transforms him into one of the most tragic and heartbreaking. His portrayal of Theon's arc is so exceptional in fact, that even when the show stops caring about him, Allen still finds time to be amazing in the smallest of moments, such as the needlessly prolonged torture scenes and his reaction to what Ramsay does to Sansa. The show doesn't really care about Theon anymore, but I do, because Allen is so brilliant.)

McCann-(The Hound is one of my favourite characters, largely due to prescence and personality McCann brings to him. Starting with the Blackwater episode though, in which he's MVP, McCann starts to show a deeper, more human side of the Hound, which continues to be developed through his always fantastic scenes with Maisie Williams as Arya.)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

A shame as I think that could have been a potential masterpiece, a lurid and rather dark one I would imagine. It is also rather easy to envision Hurt as a Cronenberg lead.