Sunday, 10 November 2024

Alternate Best Actor 1986: Roberto Benigni in Down By Law

Roberto Benigni did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Roberto aka Bob in Down By Law. 

Down By Law is a wonderful Jarmusch about the interactions between three unique inmates. 

If there's a director to find a place for an idiosyncratic presence it is Jim Jarmusch, and even before we get to the subject of this review, this film opens first with Jack played by John Lurie, musician and the lead of Jarmusch's previous film Stranger Than Paradise. A pimp who gets set up and arrested. Follow that by one of my favorite idiosyncratic presences of cinema Tom Waits, playing Zack a wannabe DJ who too is set up by agreeing to a seemingly innocuous job that ends up being much worse. We come into those two becoming friends while jailed together and forming a low key bond that could only be in a Jarmusch film, from two unexpected performers. But the film lives on the last lead to enter the cell, though he has a brief appearance earlier in the film as we see Benigni randomly come across Zack where he recites a phrase he likes, only to disappear until he too is thrown into their cell. And this is where context of performance matters so much, because I have in no way hidden my lack of love for Benigni's Oscar win, and this is not some completely unrelated performance by any means, however in this instance Jarmusch found Benigni a just about perfect fit here as Bob the inmate, who makes Zack and Jack looks like just a couple of typical guys. 

Benigni's performance is one of pure energy here, a chaotic energy that is going about in every direction in every scene, as even the way he speaks here is a kind of riffing though this a particularly unique riffing where he is just switching between Italian and English constantly. This is not an instance where it is this flawless swapping of a man completely adept at both languages, rather like a musician struggling to find the right note, Benigni performs it as Bob struggling to frequently find the right word. It is all in the delivery though and that is the magical part of the performance. Benigni specifically doesn't hesitate with his verbal delivery, as even as he's stepping over words and lines, he always captures this forward momentum within every phrase that he comes out with confidence even as what he says is at least a little broken in translation. The thing is though is it is a big ole' who cares, because Benigni's energy here just is that endearing in the way he pulls us into his ramblings with a curious sense of discovery, just as the other two men come to feel the same way. It is difficult not to be fascinated by what Jarmusch is capturing which is so perfectly within itself, in a performance that probably wouldn't work in many contexts, but in this specific context it just sings. 

Benigni pulls off something quite fascinating here as he very much turns us into Zack and Jack, in trying to decipher what wisdom is within his ramblings to find out the truth of the matter. As Bob himself has this innate purity about himself where Benigni even explains how Bob killed a man in self-defense as just this matter of fact way, though as just the same potent energy as he explains how to cook a rabbit later. It is all just part of his experience and therefore relates it with as much ease as he would anything else. Benigni succeeds in a way by not really setting apart moments of his performance but rather succeeding in being this purity as Bob. What that really means is that Benigni isn't trying to create this intense character arc where Bob grows, nor is he trying to make Bob this extremely complex person, rather he is just making Bob just so truly and only Bob, as Bob can be, where you just need to listen in a follow whatever random thing he's off on to find out exactly what Bob is talking about. As when Bob suddenly gives notions of escape, then does, it is just as it would be explaining less concerning matter again, yet it all makes sense as this is just Bob being Bob, and for Bob to help his new friends escape is simply a why not just as he does anything else. 

You can't control what Benigni is doing here because just as his delivery is so specifically his own, as is his physical manner here which is performed like Benigni simply is ignoring any traditional blocking for how to maneuver a scene and any sense where the camera is. Frankly Benigni frequently seems lost in a specific space, or at least out of place because of just how light and floaty he can be whether they're stuck in their cell, running down a sewer or wandering around a swamp looking to escape. Again though, logically shouldn't work, but the logic of this film absolutely does, because Benigni simply IS Bob as he goes about his way, and particularly is so effective by the down to earth looks of Waits and Lurie often taking him in, and loving him. The thing is, it is hard not to because he is so endearing, his energy is contagious and you just love the way the man seems unburdened. Even the most distressing moment theoretically, where Bob can't swim and the other two guys consider abandoning him, you know it can't happen because of just how innocent, and childlike Benigni's pleas are to both as asks his friends for help. Eventually the trio find a road, where we get the final bit where they uncover a cafe, which they send Bob to scope out first, which several hours later without a return, they follow. Luckily for all, Bob has discovered the cafe is run by an Italian woman Nicoletta played by Benigni's eventual wife Nicoletta Braschi, so naturally things are going to work out. While I wouldn't quite say this is a different side of Bob, what we do see is a slightly different situation for Bob's energy, as he finds his love in Nicoletta. Something that again just shows Bob's energy again is insatiable as there is such a blunt sincerity but also pleasant intensity about as he speaks so lovingly of every word with every glance towards her even stronger. Something that culminates beautifully in a moment where he invites her to dance in front of Zack and Jack. There Benigni's simple earnestness in his embracing dancing, closing his eyes as though it is the most joyous moment of his life has such an easy poignancy to it, and the endearing nature of Bob makes the moment a treasure in itself. We see Bob get his happy ending, that is befitting the pure character we've seen throughout. A character that is ideal use of Benigni's talents, where his energy is used in the right way, in the right direction, in the right style of Jarmusch and with the right balancing factor via Lurie and Waits. 

91 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Always love reviews like these, where an actor who isn't one of Louis's favorites gives a strong performance.

A said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. MacLachlan
4. Montand
5. Benigni

John Smith said...

1.Montand
2.Phoenix
3.Machlachlan
4.Bengini
5.Josephson

Emi Grant said...

Tahmeed: Agreed. Actors with poor history on the blog finding redemptions is one of my favorite things to see happen.

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. Machlachlan
4. Benigni
5. Montand

Jonathan Williams said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. Benigni
4. Montand
5. MacLachlan

Jonathan Williams said...

Thoughts on the screenplay.

Lucas Saavedra said...

1. Josephson
2. Benigni
3. Phoenix
4. Montand
5. MacLachlan

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. Benigni
4. Montand
5. Machlachlan

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. Benigni
4. MacLachlan
5. Montand

BRAZINTERMA said...

Louis: Taking advantage of the subject Tahmeed spoke about, tell us your Top 10 actors that you didn't like but who managed to surprise you with a great performance?

Luke Higham said...

Matt: Is Walken Lead or Supporting in At Close Range.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: I'd say he's co-lead.

J96 said...

Louis, your top ten best and worst category line ups (years) for Best Supporting actress nominees?

Marcus said...

Louis: Thoughts on your top 8 performances from The Disclaimer.

Calvin Law said...

Glad you loved him, Louis. Such a delightful performance and brilliant film; I oscillate between this and Paterson as my favourite Jarmusch.

Also, thoughts on the cast of Anora?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on The Penguin and cast ranking.

Omar Franini said...

1. Josephson
2. MacLachlan
3. Phoenix
4. Benigni
5. Montand

Louis: I’m so glad to see Canal Zone in your 1977 top10. Wiseman directed four movies in 1986, the “Blind & Deaf Series”, out of the four I suggest you to check out at least Blind and Deaf, the former is another underrated gem from Wiseman.

Tim said...

thoughts on the Mission Impossible 8 Teaser?

Tim said...

Also, i was The Empty Man (2020) which is rock-solid. Not the most original, it's kind of wearing its influences on its sleeve, but i have no real big complaints. More importantly, James Badge Dale shows promise as a leading man. With a more emotional role with showier scenes, we might have something here. Infact, based on this, i might pick him for Mickey Rourke's role in Angel Heart.

Dale - 3.5
Frolova - 2.5
3s for the rest (always like seeing Stephen Root)

Louis Morgan said...

Heretic unsurprisingly is more compelling when asking the questions than when actually answering them. Gets by on an unexpected villain, some tense atmosphere and both leads giving compelling performances. But the more it tries to dig deeper the sillier and less captivating it gets, leading to a fairly rote climax. Still the elements that are worthwhile, are indeed quite worthwhile, but another entry, of so many, into the third act letdown.

Thatcher - 4
East - 4

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Grant Lead or Supporting.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Grant is lead.

Waits - 4(I mean this is Waits doing his Waits thing though as the theoretical straight man which is kind of an interesting alternative for him, given he's more often the definitely not typical guy in any given film. But Waits does well in bringing his easy captivating presence here though with a lower key energy than usual in his scenes with Benigni in particular where he sits back in the right way, though Waits still has some bits of business that keep him alive in these scenes even if he isn't the focal point. He also of course does much in his early scenes in his sort of depressive vibe though with this little spark of ingenuity where he does his practice DJ bits, and then also captures a nice low key chemistry with Lurie before Benigni is introduced. A chemistry that has a natural ease, right down to their goodbye at the end, that is moving even as it is so low key.)

Lurie - 4(The least cinematic of the trio theoretically, but again you're going against a comedian doing whatever and Waits who has one of the most innately captivating off-beat screen presences around. Anyway Lurie following up here with Jarmusch nicely doesn't overplay his own hand playing the most stoic of the three nicely but never making it so he is in any way boring. Rather Lurie effectively cuts into scenes by just being the one who just bluntly delivers his lines and bluntly reacts. Being the purest straight man nicely and again hitting the right chemistry with both of his co-stars.)

Braschi - 3.5(Has great chemistry with Benigni unsurprisingly but matches him best by being so believably pure in a way that matches his earnestness. I especially just love the glances she gives him throughout her introduction scene that just seems to suggest true love.)

Louis Morgan said...

Jonathan:

The screenplay is typical Jarmusch in just finding something in the seemingly "nothing" of the moments that other films skip. In this case the film largely skips those moments, though he does have more of a plot than say Paterson and Jarmusch does establish why these guys are in prison for example. But those scenes even are more so setting up the two guys who aren't wholly bad but more than a little wayward, coming across the guy who seemingly knows where he is going despite being the most out of whack of all three. The film then is just about the interactions and finding life in those interactions, despite having the theoretical progression of the jail, the escape, the lost escape, and the final seeming redemption of sorts in the ending. It's all there, but Jarmusch skips the "exciting" bits theoretically. But instead he focuses on just exploring how these three unique guys can connect in this unique situation, deriving so much just from the humanity shown between one another and finding a very unlikely friendship between all of them.

J96:

Only including years where I have seen all five:

Best (ascending)

1. 2007
2. 2015
3. 2017
4. 2020
5. 1943
6. 1939
7. 1948
8. 2021
9. 1954
10. 1968

Worst (descending):

1. 2004
2. 2009
3. 1997
4. 1981
5. 1942
6. 1947
7. 1952
8. 1991
9. 1977
10. 1956

I should note I don't feel too strongly on either ranking as the academy tends to never keep a year clean of any filler nominations, nor do they typically completely demolish a lineup, though sometimes they come close.

Tim:

Well that certainly was a series of Mission Impossible like scenes, which is all I need I suppose, including another insane Cruise stunt and will definitely not say no to more strangely (but wonderfully) delivered monologues by Czerny.

J96 said...

Louis, your thought on Gladiator 2’s early reviews?
Thoughts on the trailer for “The Return?”

Louis Morgan said...

Brazinterma:

Dev Patel
Jeremy Strong
Shia LeBeouf
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Don Murray
Channing Tatum
Zac Efron
Thomas Ian Griffith
Matthew Goode
Nicholas Hoult (Hard to believe at this point but true).

Van Damme is a slight cheat as I never disliked per se even if I didn't think much of his acting. And a few warmed up to a great performance with some good ones first like Efron and Patel.

Luke:

Penguin cast ranking:

1. Cristin Milioti
2. Colin Farrell
3. Deirdre O'Connell
4. Rhenzy Feliz
5. Emily Meade
6. Clancy Brown
7. Carmen Ejogo
8. Louis Cancelmi
9. Con O'Neill
10. Mark Strong
11. Shoreh Aghdahloo
12. Francois Chau
13. Michael Kelly
14. Theo Rossi
15. Scott Cohen
16. Michael Zegen

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

Gladiator II looks like it goes either way depending on the individual which to be fair is also kind of true for the original.

Well that's quite a different film from Nowhere Special to say the least. Interesting choice to go with the least mythological portion of the story, and just purely focusing on Odysseus killing some suitors, which if Fiennes's doing it, I won't say I'm not *not* intrigued to a degree. But as it is, looks not exactly amazing but might be fine.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: What was the great Matthew Goode performance?

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

The Offer, which was a pretty dumb series on the whole but he was great as Robert Evans.

J96 said...

Louis, how would you do the same yearly rankings for Best Leading Actress nominees?

J96 said...

Here’s a hard one, with G2 around the corner, how do you rank Hans Zimmer’s scores, not only by film, but by title. (If you don’t already have that list blogged).

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Milioti and Farrell (Where would it rank in his career).

Thoughts on Goode, Fogler and Temple in The Offer.

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

George - (Basically has to play two very disparate notes, one of the lusting woman who is playing around with her prey to live out a fantasy. There she certainly is most effective in being intensely alluring though with this certain hidden balance of a cutting quality where it seems she is preying as much as she is playing. Of course George contrasts that heavily in the revelation scene where she is quite powerful in just bringing the visceral horror of the sequence to life, which is particularly needed as her male co-star is kind of horrendous in the scene, but she brings the horror of the scene alive. Obviously there isn't much nuance in-between because technically it is two different characters, but she excels with both sides.)

Smit-McPhee - (He's just kind of there in his early scenes in just being the burnout son, he's fine but really just there. He's very effective though in his spotlight section of showing the young man sort of finding even more horror and self-loathing as more is uncovered, and Smit-McPhee artfully manages to fall even lower than he was before. Additionally, while limited technically, does make the most of his moment of bringing a simple humanity of his character in the key moment.)

Manville - (Though she was actually rather inconsistent here as there are moments where she makes the bitter grief rather powerful, but there were other moments where I thought her performance was a bit too overcooked. I suppose it doesn't help that the presentation of her character is chronologically so spread apart so we get only the extremes of the character. In turn sometimes I thought she hit an honest note on the extreme sometimes but sometimes not so much.)

Cohen - (Thought he was effective enough in showing the most extreme emotions early on but as the performance goes on he just doesn't find nearly enough nuance in the part. He ends up becoming thinner and thinner, without intention, that leaves his performance kind of more of just a type than a genuine person by the end of the series. He's not horrible but beyond the surface he just doesn't find any additional depth to mine within the character.)

Louis Morgan said...

Varma - (I know some hated the narration, I was fine with it overall and Varma's performance I think brings the right sort of straightforward yet just slightly judgmental quality.)

HoYeon - (She's in the series and is perfectly fine as just a random pawn in the main battle of the series but doesn't really make much of an impact one way or another.)

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Madison - (On the surface level this performance is great and just works in terms of pure entertainment value. Madison goes for it in terms of the brazen nature of the character not at all bringing a hint of hesitation and going out on the limb, in a type of performance that if it had not worked would've become instantly grating or become just a cartoon. Madison makes the aggressiveness of Annie work in one of those wonderful cinematic tricks where she just *does* and is even endearing at the same time. Perhaps partially presence but maybe because she alludes to being a bit more from the outset. Regardless what Madison is doing absolutely works, is incredibly captivating and manages to successfully create the line between the image of her character along with her character. She is "playing" a part, but what Madison also expresses consistently is the way she is going with the flow without hesitation. Madison specifically plays the part as both a performance and an escape at the same time, particularly as the film progresses. Madison brilliantly puts in moments of "the business" when she asks for prices which she segues to so naturally even as it alludes to a degree of artifice she expresses it as the natural state of the way Annie lives her life as her profession. Key to the contrast are the few moments outside of her working, which I think probably will be the ongoing criticism of the film that we don't have more of these moments, though the brief moments for me successfully showed essentially the lack of life Annie has out of her job. And Madison is great in these few nearly silent early moments, because the energy of her performance is totally different, there isn't that ownership of herself in her manner, and we see just kind of a tired and bored person with nothing to do. So it then becomes the logical extension to jump head first into the proposed life by the "fun boy", where Madison very much shows Annie just having fun in the moment, and getting what she can out of it. Her performance then as it's crashing down is wonderfully curious because it is a game, rather than a life in a way, where Madison naturally switches from moments of defending it as her life, as her profit, or just kind of going with it knowing it is a falsehood. Madison never simplifies it, rather engages with this unnatural state however in a way that always feels natural to what Annie is handling. Well of course also again just being a dynamo in so many moments, and knocking out every comedic moment she has for the most that it is worth in the purest sort of performance moments. She is absolutely hilarious here whether it is with the physical comedy she completely sells or the moments of purposefully abrasiveness that she delivers flawlessly. I won't get too much into the ending since most having seen the film that much, but I will just say that I absolutely adore everything Madison does in it, where she revisits the brief "personal" moments from the early scenes, to reveal so much more about her character, and the certain sort of change in energy ends up speaking so powerfully to the realization of what this entire "adventure" has meant for her.)

Louis Morgan said...

Tovmasyan - (His sad sack expressions I found consistently hilarious, in just being completely out of his depth, and despite being the big goon, brings such a soft non intimidating presence in the best way possible. It's mostly on one note, but he absolutely nails that one note.)

Karagulian - (His performance is mostly one of comedic exasperation where he is indeed hilarious in just finding new ways to get slowly fed up with the whole experience of his life at this moment. From his opening scene of being so awkwardly not present at the baptism to which he then becomes that of increasing frustration through every situation. His performance is just hilarious in his moments of verbally lashing out with obvious intention and purpose, though with always the right shading of constant self-pity at every turn. I nicely regulates though between the moments of projecting himself as a "fixer" for the family, while just becoming a guy who doesn't want vomit in his car, to even slightly humane in a few brief moments where he genuinely offers deals to Annie that I like he doesn't play with hesitation, rather presenting it almost as for him an understandable fee for her trouble.)

Ekamasova - (Incisively horrible in just the right way bringing the proper fed up and just cutting energy to every single one of her lines. Her performance suggests not a singular disappointment with her son but this as a constant wave that leaves her manner as not taking any prisoners in this visit. Playing into the cruelty of the character as just an easy going approach as though any inconvenience is at best meaningless at worst is something that provokes the most disdainful hatred.)

Serebryakov - (A performance that honestly is mostly just there for his brief screen time, his rating for me is basically built on one absolutely hilarious reaction moment that easily got the biggest laugh out of the theater I was in, which I certainly contributed to.)

Omar:

I will try to check those out.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on Robby Muller's work in this?

J96 said...

Louis, your ranking of the Oscar winners for Best International Feature?

Marcus said...

J96: Do you mean every winner since the award was rebranded as International Feature, or every winner dating back to 1947?

J96 said...

All the way back to 1947. And if not all of them, top 10 best and worst, and with the worst, who would've been the best alternative.

Anonymous said...

Louis: thoughts on the trailer for The Return?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Check Louis' response to J96 two days ago.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the award chances of Stan and Pearson in A Different Man, and Strong in The Apprentice. I can't see a path for Stan in the latter given current events, but given the shouts for him and Pearson, I think there's a shot for him.

Bryan L. said...

Tahmeed: I think The Brutalist is where A24 will push their biggest chips on for awards season, as it sounds like it could be a below-the-line contender as well as up top. A Different Man could squeak in for Best Original Screenplay though.

Louis Morgan said...


Luke:

Milioti - (I've always liked Milioti anyways so it was nice to see her get such a showcase here where she convincingly plays the very different stages and elements of the character. As the earliest scenes chronologically she presents perfectly as the loving daughter who has the air of respectability and even a pleasant demeanor all things considered her situation. Segueing that to the concerned potential good person even within the crime family, before then immediately going to Arkham where Milioti is amazing in portraying every stage within the institution. Playing initially just the intense fear and horror of her situation, that only spirals out of control, that creates an innate empathy as she is so lost, before only finding comfort by embracing the insanity and portraying a cold and detached viciousness that replaces it. Her present scenes she's great in playing a kind of confidence that is reduced, as there are moments that are incisive however it isn't her defining characteristic. Playing well the still real vulnerabilities that Penguin exploits, before she fully finds her strength, and Miloti successfully plays the full power playing don, without overplaying it, finding still hints of where she came from, even as she naturally moves to playing the full on villain, owning her status as such.)

Farrell - (A performance that is a bit easy to take for granted because he already set it up in the Batman, and because you do almost instantly forget that it is Farrell in the part, given he just simply is the Penguin from the first scene on. You never do see Farrell behind the makeup which in itself is extremely impressive, given you have even more time to look for the cracks here, and the fact that Farrell needs to take the Penguin into more dynamic places from the underboss type role he has in The Batman. Farrell manages to be able to go from that basic form to playing an even more wretched version where he is the ideal weasel where he will be naturally horribly pathetic in one instance, then suddenly can be a completely menacing killer the next, and can even inspire this strange air of leadership despite seeming like such a bottom feeder. Farrell plays it essentially as the Penguin having no shame in any of the faces he puts on, being able to lie with ease and completely amoral, even when it seems like he cares, he really doesn't. Farrell successfully brings every false face to be the man, who is inconsistent in his lack of shame. The one element different from this is with his mother, where even that isn't entirely true, however Farrell plays these moments well with an infantile manner as a pure momma's boy with the emotions around it being more petulant than anything, that shows his only real emotions as horribly stunted ones. And it is to the credit of Farrell that he is compelling despite playing a completely wretched character in every possible way.)

Louis Morgan said...

Goode - (The best part of the series with ease, which is particularly impressive given that Evans is one of those parts where it is very hard not to feel completely ridiculous and over the top just due to his mannerisms. Goode though manages to completely own the mannerisms of Evans, to the point of just being innately entertaining because of them, yet he never turns into a caricature or cartoon. He manages to own in a way I frankly didn't expect him to but he absolutely thrives with it. In turn he takes what could've been a caricature to a fully dynamic fleshed out person, so he is fun to watch doing his Robert Evansy things, but it doesn't strip him from humanity. So when Goode pressures the performance by going into his personal vulnerabilities with his wife, Goode makes the sense of betrayal absolutely real and fundamental to the character. Contrasting that though you see where his passion for film comes out and Goode is amazing in those moments in bringing it so naturally to life this element that defines himself separate from the other studio men. He successfully makes Evans in moments the villain and the hero of the series, by showing that same man who will try to get what he wants, with his style no matter what. And so many individual moments come just from Goode owning that style where he does have a charm, even when he's thoeretically too much, it is theoretically too much in a way that works and is believable.)

Fogler - (Actually a wholly good audition if they ever did attempt an Apocalypse Now making of film or series. Fogler isn't quite as revolutionary as Goode, but he doesn't waste the sort of natural visual casting of Coppola. Fogler plays it pretty down to earth smartly as just a hungry filmmaker who has a distinct vision but is largely sensible. Fogler's very good in the moment of creating the intrigue of inspiration so to speak when he sells moments of the Godfather story, or sees the magic of vision unfold. At the same time he brings moments of maybe too much passion, or too much ego effectively as this sort of dismissiveness of the genius, even when he may be in the wrong. The series in some ways is less concerned with Coppola past a certain point, regardless Fogler brings a natural honesty to the part that plays it as just a younger director with change, rather than a legend.)

Temple - (One of the contrived elements of the series that often has the contrived statements, such as breaking down why Joel Grey won over the three Godfather actors, being a secretary that also is getting involved with a gangster that doesn't exactly convince one of all these elements as written. Temple though stays believable in terms of her own performance. Temple offers an endearing energy in her part regardless and manages to bring life into a role that feels artificial. She can't make every scene she has to sell work necessarily but she is consistently good at trying to sell each moment regardless.)

J96:

Actress:

Best (Ascending)

1. 1962
2. 1974
3. 2017
4. 1996
5. 1976
6. 1950
7. 1939
8. 1978
9. 1967
10. 2016

Worst (Descending):

1. 1999
2. 2000
3. 2005
4. 2009
5. 1956
6. 1984
7. 1953
8. 2010
9. 2011
10. 1994

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

Unfortunately I think Stan is in the worst possible position, because his films are both fringe contenders (at best), and there isn't a definitive preference between the performances. And also on Pearson, A24 sadly has WAY too many films this year. As in a different year I could see viability for Craig, Garfield, Stan, Brody and Domingo in lead but not ALL of them at once. Supporting is a little less stuffed with *just* Pearce, Maclin, Pearson, and unlikely but praised alternates in Grant, Starkey and Dickinson. I just don't see them pushing for everybody. I think likely Pearson, and maybe Stan get in at Indie Spirits, but that's probably the ceiling.

Strong I think has a great chance at pulling for individual support, because he's coming hot off Succession, and a Tony win. I think he has the momentum to get in on his own, and it helps that it's a way to recognize the film without directly recognizing the Trump element directly. I think it will be a tough road, but even if he misses SAG he's someone I could see pulling a Brian Tyree Henry.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

I mean with Muller what more do you need? The man is probably the most underrated cinematographer, particularly since he was never Oscar nominated. Anyway, here he's fantastic as per usual and you see him kind of taking the Stranger than Paradise ideas, and just running with them, which is common for him. As Jarmusch again has a lot of static shots, black and white, and fundamentally simple in some ways. Muller lighting though is that much more dynamic in how he realizes every single static composition with such ease, yet such naturalistic beauty about them. Focusing on greys rather than contrast can be boring, but Muller makes it gorgeous even if also purposefully with a degree of harshness. The way he expresses space here in particular is just outstanding, from the jail cell but particularly the sewer scene and especially the final scene. Muller achieves it with such unfussy ease though that is just such a trick to pull off.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

International Feature:

Best:

1. Rashomon
2. Parasite
3. Z
4. The Lives of Others
5. The Secret In Their Eyes
6. Bicycle Thieves
7. Another Round
8. La Strada
9. Nights of Cabiria
10. A Separation

Worst:

1. Mediterraneo (Raise the Red Lantern)
2. The Tin Drum (The Maids of Wilko)
3. Life is Beautiful (Children of Heaven)
4. The Barbarian Invasions (The Twilight Samurai)
5. Indochine
6. Son of Saul (Embrace of the Serpent)
7. The Great Beauty (The Hunt)
8. Character (Four Days in September)
9. Kolya (Ridicule)
10. The Assault (Betty Blue)

Although except the top few, I'm more "eh" than hate towards most of these.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Thoughts on Rhenzy Feliz?

J96 said...

Nice List! Where would you put 8 1/2, Cinema Paradiso, Amour, Fanny and Alexander, Day for Night, Roma, Drive My Car, Departures, All Quiet on the Western Front, and Ida (I LOVE Wild Tales)?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on your #3-10 from the Penguin cast.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Gascon since Perez is on Netflix now?

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Feliz - (As fulfilling the Jesse Pinkman role, though probably a bit smarter in terms of early Jesse, Feliz manages to bring the right combination between fear, earnestness, yet also a dogged conviction to be a bit more than he is. Feliz rides the line nicely where you completely believe his horror at some of the acts he commits, yet is also just as convincing in the moments where he projects a bit of unexpected warmth with Oz where he seems to be a genuine mentor to him. His isn't one about being extreme transformations; rather he portrays well this sort of sense of someone being lost and occasionally finding a path even if that path always is stomped out in some way or another. Also manages to perform the stutter well to not make it seem just like an attachment to the character, making it a natural part of him where and when it comes out from him.)

Anonymous:

Deirdre O'Connell - (Effectively performs the wild swing of the character based on her mental mood and the extreme emotions she goes throughout. She brings the right kind of moments of just whimpering fear of someone completely lost in one moment, then just the vagueness of others when searching for something to hold onto when she's lost in her mind. At the same time though she is convincing in her moments of being the aggressive mom pumping up her son with this sort of fierceness that never seems to be overt love, just making use of what she has in a way. But the way the series then pushes her to such extremes O'Connell never loses the character or the moment, where the swings are purposefully blunt and extreme yet she never gets lost in them most impressively.)

Emily Meade - (Impressive work in terms of just taking what O'Connell did and convincingly realizing her version of it without seeming like a carbon copy yet completely evoking the same person at a younger age. She has far less time yet there isn't any break whatsoever between the younger and older version of the character in terms of accepting who each is, which is always impressive.)

Clancy Brown - (I think he is fundamentally miscast as I've never thought of Brown as remotely Italian, if he has some ancestry of such, I'd be surprised. Having said that, Brown as just "boss" type certainly delivers that aspect bringing the expected vicious intensity you'd want, but I liked what he did with the moments of nuance where he portrayed honest warmth in the love he had for his family.)

Carmen Ejogo - (Just solid work from her, nothing unexpected but completely delivers on playing both the moments of "fantasy" with Oz and just a blunt forwardness with her character to be as direct as possible in creating the nature of someone who is very much honest with her playing of the game.)

Louis Cancelmi - (Wish there had been so much more of him, because he is so much instantly this street gangster with this blunt lived in honest about his performance that you see this sort of dark internalized intensity but also a strange sort of driven manner of someone who knows what he is, and lives by it.)

Louis Morgan said...

Con O'Neill - (Enjoyed his brief reprise, as just in general has a kind of natural authenticity that is an appreciated touch.)

Mark Strong - (Falters by comparison more than anything because he basically gives the expected Falcone performance, honestly the performance I thought we were probably going to get than the dynamic one delivered by Turturro. There was so much more going internally with him than Strong who is perfectly fine, but just in terms of comparison doesn't live up to Turturro's performance in the least. Strong's not bad but he is very generic.)

J96:

8 1/2 is somewhere in the middle (always a film where I've admired the technique more than actually became involved in it). Cinema Paradiso upper middle. Haven't seen Fanny and Alexander. Day For Night, top 20, Roma in the middle somewhere. Drive My Car, upper middle. All Quiet, upper middle. Ida in the top 20.

Anonymous:

Gascon - (Glad I took the time as I honestly have far more reservations about Gascon's performance now that I reflect back. The first version of the performance honestly I think Gascon is more than a little over the top, without real nuance, just kind of swings of emotion as projects themselves as this nearly wretched level of vicious gangster like more ogre than person, but then suddenly is the fun parent who is so loving. Again also bad writing to be sure, but thought Gascon played into the extremes without nuance in these scenes. After the the transformation, Gascon definitely delivers on the charisma and has some good scenes in projecting this sort of manner of someone who has found their new lease on life with the first moment with Saldana or the scenes with Paz where the character of Emilia probably felt the most real and not some contrived idea. Sadly though I think the script forces Gascon to kind of just *do* things at times, such as the character brazenly putting themselves in the public for all to see, and suddenly caring so deeply about theoretically their old victims I didn't buy, partially because I also didn't real feel a deep sense of regret or remorse within Gascon's performance to suddenly sell this extreme switch. Then the last portion is awful in so many ways, Gascon has no chemistry with Gomez in any way, with the return to the old ways of the character feeling contrived and again didn't always believe the sell on Gascon's part. The attempt then to be kind of both in the climax, didn't believe for a second. So yeah also definitely down, maybe a 3.5 if I'm being generous.)

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Jonathan Pryce, Hugo Weaving, Ruth Bradley, Joanna Scanlan, Tom Brooke & James Callis in Slow Horses S4?

Luke Higham said...

Conan O'Brien is hosting the Oscars.

Michael Patison said...

Louis: Who had a better year: Claude Rains in 1942 or Isuzu Yamada in 1957?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Honestly, love the choice at this venture.

Michael:

Yamada, though it's close. And few banner years period compare to theirs.

Dirk Richter said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the trailer for The Amateur?

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Have you listened to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend at all and if so who's been your favourite gues?

Robert MacFarlane said...

I thought of one way Emilia Perez might have worked: Lean into the Telenovela plotting and go with that aesthetic the same way Haynes did with Sirk’s style for Far From Heaven.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Luke: It's about time. Weird that only now they realized how good of a host he'd be.

Matt Mustin said...

Ytrewq: I really doubt this is the first time they've asked him.

Louis Morgan said...

A Real Pain is exceptionally *fine*, I do appreciate the limited amount of lower wage workers being in the crossfire of our protagonists' Indie eccentricities (then I never did see Will Sharpe's pay stub), though those types of comedic beats are here, and aren't particularly exceptional though not as detrimental as in some similar type of Independent fair. They're mostly just kind of there and at least easy enough to get through albeit not particularly funny however at least they didn't make me dislike the film.

The dramatic elements are more compelling in terms of just the general attempt to analyze how one looks at the trauma of the past while doing so through a trip of seeming convenience, though I think Eisenberg as a screenwriter deferring so much to giving a beefier role to his co-star (who isn't supporting in the least), might be detrimental to the film as a whole, as his David is almost excessive in his passive straightmanness for the sake of highlighting Culkin's more flamboyant and troubled Benji. The brotherly (though technically cousinly) relationship is the center of the film, and while I wouldn't say it is ineffective it never quite finds something truly remarkable perhaps because one half is made too much of a foil. Still an entirely watchable film, that is certainly easy to get through, though I wouldn't say a truly substantial entry into this subgenre for the most part. 

Eisenberg - 3.5
Sharpe - 3
Grey - 2.5
Egyiawan - 3

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

I'm certainly not a perfectionist. Although I do spend more time refining reviews of either the Oscar nominated performances, in part because there is a certain build to those reviews, or particularly great or actually divisive performances, particularly the latter.

I leave that for others to decide. Though I just try to be straightforward in conveying my opinion with logic behind the "why" that is consistent. Even with my occasional gimmick reviews, they tend to come from a place of finding a way to talk about a performance I find would be difficult to address with than with my usual analysis. And of course my reviews have developed over time, as the early ones are pretty terrible, if you ask me, but I will say my perspective on performance itself has evolved in terms of examining work through context and also not defining it by a singular element.

Matt:

I've listened to it a bit but far from all, enjoyed Herzog, Olyphant (of course), and Jordan Schlansky (of coursex2).

Dirk:

I feel a very obvious twist will be coming, but hey you never know. Hawes did a nice enough job directing the first season of Slow Horses so I guess you see the generalized espionage vibe from the trailer which could be fine as such, though it doesn't look like it will be standing out in that department. More concerning is Malek, who just hasn't really convinced me of his greatness as a leading man, particularly as we're set here to see supposedly some transformation that I have doubt he will be pulling off successfully.

Robert:

I think embracing those extremes fully might've worked, though I think Audiard was the wrong choice for director of the material no matter what (which is a bit of a problem when he's also the writer).

Robert MacFarlane said...

It’s funny you have the same rating for A Real Pain as me but have a different takeaway. I actually thought Eisenberg gave a better performance than Culkin and sort of accidentally was the best thing about the film in spite of giving Culkin the showier part.

Bryan L. said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. Maclachlan
4. Benigni
5. Montand

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your top ten "Cops & Robbers" films?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I should note in the review I was speaking specifically from a writing point of view, where Eisenberg set such an obvious set pattern for the scenes it left the relationship not nearly dynamic enough, and where even the theoretical arcs (which arc might be a stretch as I think they're fairly weak) take them isn't all that different. Which could work if I got more from what was already there, which I did not.

Luke Higham said...

1. Josephson
2. Phoenix
3. MacLachlan
4. Benigni
5. Montand

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
Tell us your ranks of 1998 nominees in each category:

Song
1. "Take My Breath Away" - Top Gun
2. "Mean Green Mother de Outer Space" - Little Shop of Horrors
3. "Somewhere Out There" - An American Tail
4. "Glory of Love" - The Karate Kid Part II
5. "Life in a Looking Glass" - That's Life!

Original Score
1. The Mission
2. Aliens
3. Hoosiers
4. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
5. Round Midnight

Sound Mixing
1. Aliens
2. Top Gun
3. Platoon
4. Heartbreak Ridge
5. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Sound Editing
1. Aliens
2. Top Gun
3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Editing
1. Aliens
2. Platoon
3. The Mission
4. Top Gun
5. Hannah and Her Sisters

Special Visual Effects
1. Aliens
2. Little Shop of Horrors
3. Poltergeist II: The Other Side

Makeup and Hairstyling
1. The Fly
2. Legend
3. The Clan of the Cave Bear

Costume
1. A Room With a View
2. The Mission
3. Otello
4. Peggy Sue Got Married
5. Pirates

Production Design
1. Aliens
2. The Mission
3. A Room With a View
4. The Color of Money
5. Hannah and Her Sisters

Cinematography
1. The Mission
2. Platoon
3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
4. Peggy Sue Got Married
5. A Room With a View

International Feature Film
1. The Decline of the American Empire (Canada)
2. My Sweet Little Village (Czechoslovakia)
3. The Assault (The Netherlands)
4. Betty Blue (France)
5. 38 (Austria)

Adapted Screenplay
1. Stand by Me
2. A Room With a View
3. The Color of Money
4. Children of a Lesser God
5. Crimes of the Heart

Original Screenplay
1. Platoon
2. My Beautiful Laundrette
3. Hannah and Her Sisters
4. Salvador
5. Crocodile Dundee

Supporting Actress
1. Maggie Smith
2. Dianne Wiest
3. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
4. Piper Laurie
5. Tess Harper

Supporting Actor
1. Tom Berenger
2. Michael Caine
3. Willem Dafoe
4. Dennis Hopper
5. Denholm Elliott

Lead Actress
1. Sigourney Weaver
2. Kathleen Turner
3. Marlee Matlin
4. Sissy Spacek
5. Jane Fonda

Lead Actor
1. Bob Hoskins
2. James Woods
3. Paul Newman
4. William Hurt
5. Dexter Gordon

Director
1. David Lynch
2. Oliver Stone
3. Roland Joffé
4. Woody Allen
5. James Ivory

Picture
1. Platoon
2. The Mission
3. Hannah and Her Sisters
4. A Room With a View
5. Children of a Lesser God

Tim said...

you've been giving additional thoughts (in blue) on your old reviews in the bonus rounds recently, with i very much embraced. Would you be willing to do that on some other performances that already were included in the bonus rounds? most of which i do not have a problem with, but there is one that bugs the hell out of me

which is Sean Penn in Mystic River.

It basically consists of two paragraphs. In the first one you say there are many problems with the performance, but there is also some merit. In the second on then you mention all the negatives, but the positive sides never get any mention! There is one slightly positive sentence in Robbin's review, and that's it.

If you are not willing to re-do such an old review (2010) that is out of the bonus rounds already, i'd get that. But that is one early review of yours that really frustrates me.

(That, and Eddie Murphy in Dreamgirls, but that still has a chance to be changed ...)

Tony Kim said...

Tim: It might be easier to simply ask him what he feels are the good aspects of that performance. I recall him mentioning a while ago that he liked Penn's acting in the scene with Rossum's dress.

BRAZINTERMA said...

5º Yves Montand
4º Roberto Benigni
3º Kyle MacLachlan
2º River Phoenix
1º Erland Josephson

Luke Higham said...

Saw Gladiator II, Denzel Washington gives very strong work but it felt like such a nostalgia grab that I struggled to get emotionally invested in its story.

Mescal - 3 (I like him a great deal but Lucius is a boring protagonist)
Pascal - 3.5 (Wish he was utilized more)
Quinn - 3.5 (Potentially could've been a great Caligula-esque perforimance in a better film than this)
Hechinger - 3
Nielsen - 4
Washington - 4.5

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I, uh, have thoughts on the second set of episodes from Cobra Kai season 6.

(Some spoilers below)

The show remains compelling and well-performed for the first part, but that tenth episode going where it went...while it makes sense for something like that to have happened eventually given all the fighting, I'm just not sure whether it fits the now-nonsensical tone of the show. Which is a shame, because despite there being many narrative threads in the show, I did like most of them leading up to that point.

Top 10:

1. Yuji Okumoto
2. Ralph Macchio
3. William Zabka
4. Xolo Maridueña
5. (Redacted)
6. Peyton List
7. Brandon H. Lee (maybe a little high, but I for one loved his shit-stirring throughout)
8. Martin Kove
9. Courtney Henggeler
10. Tanner Buchanan

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Are there any particular reviews of yours where you feel you definitively began evolving beyond what you see as the flaws of your earliest work, and started taking on the form closer to your writing today? And which specific reviews of yours have you put the most amount of effort into writing?

J96 said...

Louis and everyone, thoughts on Dune: Prophecy Episode 1?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Pryce - (Remarkable performance that does take his character into an entirely new direction of portraying the scattershot state of his dementia. Pryce is great by being so effortlessly convincing in the moments of becoming just angry and frustrated as he believes he suddenly knows exactly what is going on and doesn't know why people are acting this way around him. Brings this bluster of a once commanding man though now lost within his own thoughts. Pryce is equally effective, and quite moving, in presenting the moments of clarity of his character being remorseful for what he believes he's done but just being deeply affecting by showing how completely lost he is in the moment. Pryce articulates every moment of the man's mind occasionally finding itself but far more often losing itself. Although theoretically a plot point, what Pryce does is fully realized in his portrait of dementia, even while fulfilling the needs of the part in this series, and for me MVP of the series.)

Weaving - (One of my favorite villains turns from him, as Weaving doesn't lean too much into the overt villainy here, even if he is definitely extremely menacing. Weaving plays the part with much more of the easy style of someone who simply has no reservations or hesitations about what he does, which just involves killing people sometimes to him. Weaving plays the part almost like a contractor who just wants his son to join the family business and brings the right no frills element to his role that keeps him slightly comedic in a way that completely works. It would've been very easy to be arch or too even Darth Vadarish here, but Weaving actually brings a dad energy just not in the way you'd expect, while still being very vicious in a rather calm way.)

Bradley - (Her performance manages to hit the right chord between likable and unlikeable as the "establishment" version of the Horses, and specifically of Lowden's RIver. Bradley modulates her smugness levels to the right degree where you do see the sense of confidence that maybe is too much to the point of dismissiveness, however she never goes so far that she becomes just a copy of Freddie Fox's previous performance in the same role. She's especially good in the moments where her character is shaken in some way, and Bradley convincingly portrays the variation to never be at all one note, rather showing her sort of "smug agent" note to be a purposeful choice of hers.)
Scalan - (Very much effectively playing into the seeming perfect housekeeper type in her natural cheeriness and certain kind of overtly calm demeanor no matter the situation. Scanlan though makes her wholly dynamic by bringing incisiveness within her calm that grants the part the sense of her working specifically within a spy agency. Naturally bringing a greater depth to every situation she ends up being even if on that surface have that certain optimism about her.)

Brooke - (Quite effective in bringing this insulated creepy intensity for much of his performance though with these sudden moments of wisdom or concern. Something however Brooke doesn't play with warmth, rather he becomes more vicious and intense even as he's technically being completely helpful. Brooke's work is wholly atypical yet completely works in its strangeness.)

Callis - (Brings a lot of nuance for a straightforward weasel part overall, in bringing this phony sort of respectable manner, contrasting that with the uneasiness of dealing with any sort of problem with an understanded type of villainy, of basically villainy by avoidance of any responsibility. Callis nicely doesn't overplay these elements which would've been very easy to do given the nature of the part, but Callis always makes all these actions feel very human, if hideous, by never going too broad, rather reflecting the vulnerability that are behind the actions. Not that he makes them any better but never does he seem like he only exists in just a spy type.)

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

If referring to films where both cops and robbers are prominent characters (And the robbers are specifically thieves/robbers):

1. High and Low
2. Dog Day Afternoon
3. The Wild Bunch
4. The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
5. Die Hard
6. Hell or High Water
7. Inside Man
8. The Driver
9. Heat
10. The Town

Tony:

I would say some of the earlier great performance reviews like Abraham in Amadeus or O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia. I would say any great performance usually take the most effort, because in a way I don't want to miss anything in terms of where I see the greatness of the work.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

Didn't watch it, with the reviews not quite being promising enough, though if it ends up being amazing maybe I'll check it out later.

Robert MacFarlane said...

It was really funny watching the latest season and then realizing I recognized Callis from the Key and Peele Othello sketch as Shakespeare.

Also, what do you think of Aimee-Ffion Edwards? They don't give her too much screentime, but I *love* her vibe. I hope next season gives her more, especially with how her arc ended this year.

Michael Patison said...

Callus is so good in Battlestar Galactica

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Once you see it, your thoughts on Season 6 Part 2 of Cobra Kai, its last episode and your top 5/MVPs of this section.

J96 said...

Louis and everyone, thoughts on the new trailer for “The Piano Lesson”?

Tony Kim said...

J96: As mentioned before, Louis doesn't comment on second trailers for films he'll be seeing. Myself, I thought it was fine but I found the heavily imagery-based first trailer to be more intriguing.

Matt Mustin said...

Caught up with Deadpool & Wolverine, which I did NOT like.

Reynolds-2.5(I am sick to death of his schtick at this point)

Jackman-4(Goes above and beyond what's required and actually tries and mostly succeeds in giving a moving and entertaining reprise as Wolverine, although the material itself prevents him from ever being great.)

Corrin-2.5(Generic villain is boring.)

Macfadyen-2.5(He should've played it straighter instead of going goofy, but I put that more on Levy's horrible direction.)

Stanford-2(Yeah, we were all chomping at the bit for him to come back, weren't we?)

Delaney-2.5

Uggams-3

Baccarin-2.5

Keen-2.5

Evans-3(Clever)

Favreau-3

Snipes-2.5

Garner-2

Tatum-3


Tony Kim said...

Luke: What did you think of Nielsen and Washington?

Luke Higham said...

Nielsen was given more time to shine and did all she could on her end.

Washington I would imagine is gonna be somewhat divisive because not even attempting an accent would make him stick out like a sore thumb to some but aside from that, I quite enjoyed his work here.

The more I think of the film, the more I've come to dislike it.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I low key love her and was easily my favorite addition from season 2 onwards. Thought her chemistry with Kirwan was just pitch perfect in terms of their comedic bickering however with the natural sense of the mutual, not really respect, but understanding between them. I think Edwards especially excels though in what could be a tricky role of playing anger issues easily could be broad, too much, or kind of phony by not being enough. I think she hits the temper of her character so well, and in a way where you see how it fuels her at times but also makes her as troubled in others. An essential facet that doesn't define her as she dynamic flexes throughout so well from moments of being one of the most competent of the horses to others of being one of the most compromised.