Sunday 2 June 2024

Alternate Best Actor 1998: Vinícius de Oliveira in Central Station

Vinícius de Oliveira did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Josué in Central Station.

Central Station tells the unlikely pairing of Dora (Fernando Montenegro), an older somewhat curmudgeonly former school teacher who writes letters for illiterate people, and a recently orphaned boy she's trying to help find his father.

Vinícius de Oliveira's Josué is the boy that we first see as his mother "buys" a letter from Dora, and what he immediately sees are the sides of his performance which I think one could use as a great illustration between screen presence and acting, so to speak. de Oliveira definitely has presence from this opening scene, he "pops" for the lack of a better word, by having an ease on screen and it is easy to see why he was chosen for the part. He comes through the screen effectively and gets over the first hurdle of cinematic child acting by not being a non-entity. What you also get is really the two bits of "acting" that de Oliveira typically delivers, in which there are some limitations. Part of his performance is as the blunt kid of the streets, where de Oliveira I wouldn't say has a flat delivery, but his delivery is always pretty similar regardless of the line. This largely works with the character who likes to speak his mind in a very straightforward way, and de Oliveira conveys that in that specific way, albeit I wouldn't say there is all that much nuance from one delivery to the next. It works, but it also suggests certain limitations with his performance, a limitation however that director Walter Salles seems rather aware of and how to make use of de Oliveira.   

The other side of de Oliveira is portraying the emotional distress that the character is going through from the loss of his mother, and going through the trauma of trying to move on from that. And again not to be overly cynical, but this is a case where the emotion seems fundamentally attached to editing, to explain. de Oliveira has emotional moments, however these are always attached to specific cuts to his face often with some tears, starting to tear up or even the occasional single dramatic tear. We never really see the build up to the emotion, or the progression to it, something we do see consistently brilliantly from Montenegro in contrast. I'm not saying Salles put an onion in front of de Oliveira before each take, but the way it is presented within his performance, is a very limited emotion that doesn't draw one in as the best performance can and should show the progression of it. I think the ending is very telling especially because of the direct contrast between Montenegro, where the camera sits on her for extended periods as we see different things going through her mind, for de Oliveira there' s a jump each cut, and each time it is a separate state of sadness without a natural progression within the single shots. Performances are often said to be created in editing, however this is a particularly extreme example, and because it is so obviously noticeable it did limit the power of the work.

What supports my critique is that throughout the film de Oliveira is kind of either his basic sort of cocky comical version of the orphan or he has his sad moments. There is very little in-between in his performance. He's either one or the other, usually the former and because of that we don't really ever sense any internalization of him thinking about his mom's death, covering it up with his bluster, or any sort of combination of the qualities. Salles however does seem very aware of this fact, not just because of the editing around the emotional moments of his performance, but also that Salles very much puts the weight of almost every scene of Montenegro, who is amazing and easily keeps the every scene going either by finding so much emotional nuance in this journey, or just being charismatic and entertaining in such a natural way. She very much knows how to work around de Oliveira, who does have presence, with Montenegro playing off that presence beautifully. The journey and the connection though are brought to life by Montenegro's brilliance, de Oliveira doesn't slow it down or get in the way, but he doesn't carry it. de Oliveira keeps largely just that presence which is of a boy who wants to impress, perhaps as character and actor, regardless of the specifics it does work, though even in these scenes he rarely does anything new in presenting the character's bluntness, just the consistent thing he does manages to work. de Oliveira is endearing enough, he never gets in the way of a moment of a scene, but never does he carry one. He gets by in the emotional scenes, he has fun in the entertaining ones, but never did I sense a nuanced emotional journey within his own work. Thanks to Montenegro and Salles the performance is more or less successful, and yes every performance is a combination of an actor and director, however this is a case where that is lopsided, but more importantly it is obvious within what is onscreen itself that it is lopsided. 

74 comments:

A said...

Ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast.

BRAZINTERMA said...

The best final scene in Brazilian cinema.
You have to be a very insensitive cynic not to be moved by that manipulative music.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Before Lead is finished, could you watch:
Affliction
The Mask Of Zorro
Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas
The Butcher Boy
Ever After
Run Lola Run
Ronin
The Dinner Game
Show Me Love
The Emperor And The Assassin
The Parent Trap
Ring
Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels
Last Night
Love Is The Devil: Study For A Portrait Of Francis Bacon

BRAZINTERMA said...

I leave as a recommendation another great work by Fernanda Montenegro in The Deceased (1965).
I hope Salles and Montenegro’s next film I’m Still Here is successful this year.

Louis Morgan said...

A:

Montenegro - 5(Her performance is very much the film in terms of giving life to every moment she's on screen which is most of the film. Montenegro is extremely charismatic here and just watchable in a general sense, however what she does that is so special is her changing from being watchable in one state to another. The first state being of the curmudgeonly letter writer where she has just the sense of exasperation behind her eyes, though not without energy, however the energy she brings in this role is related to her miserable status. She brings this sort of penetrating disregard where she patronizes with every letter she reads and writes, with a disregard for everyone and everything with the manner of someone who has just taken to the ease of things. Something we see reinforced at her home scenes where she's just sort of this state of being slightly antagonistic at all times and is miserably content. Before taking the boy on which she initially exploits and is part of her just continued overtures of hating humanity, until her actions for her to take it one step too far, and Montenegro portrays the moment of sudden personal horror and shame at what she might've done. Not a full transformation but an understanding of having gone too far so naturally realized in her performance. And from there her portrayal of growth is so gradual yet earned, in the way she shows sort of the sense of perhaps the old better teacher at some point, that isn't all in a singular moment, but every little moment that she gives so much life to one way or another. Whether it be comical moments such as when she goes back and forth with the boy, or emotional as she grants this sense of any passion in terms of caring for others. Something that culminates beautifully in the one shot, though it cuts a few times to the boy, of just seeing the journey and the meaning come from her performance as she slowly breaks down in sadness and joy in just an amazing moment of performance that so naturally creates the sense of what her character has been through.)

Pêra - 3.5(As the more outgoing sister she brings a nice energy and a sense of history between herself and Montenegro, I only wish there had been a way to have more of her as she's enjoyable with what she has, she just doesn't have too much on the whole.)

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: What did you think of Venom 3's trailer.

Louis Morgan said...

Jonathan:

Looks very dumb, just like the other two, and I doubt I will subscribe to the notion of "dumb fun" that some have applied to either of the earlier films, which I still only find to be just dumb.

Marcus said...

Louis: For the more recent years you've been writing, have you always known your win in Lead Actor and Supporting Actor by the time you write the reviews for Oscar nominees and Alternates? Were there any times where your win changed during the actual course of writing the reviews for Alternates?

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

Depends on the year, though I always feel the reviews themselves are kind of a "challenge" on my opinion if there is someone I already kind of can't shake as my favorite, or helps me affirm my favorite. For example Murphy, was my theoretical #1 before any reviews (if someone at gunpoint forced me to choose), and just stayed that way as I did the dive into each performance. Securing the win for me by proving his measure, against the challenge of appreciating several other great performances from Yakusho, Sessa and Scott in particular. Ruffalo though was in the running before the reviews but not necessarily my "gunpoint" favorite, but secured it much more through the reviews/a second viewing. Farrell and Quan were like Murphy. Cooperx2 actually were examples where I had no specific inclinations going in and became my favorites while going through the reviews.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on this scene https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_nJaV2ZE8

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Louis: What would you say are the performances from these actors that are the most extreme examples of them solely coasting on their presence?

Jack Nicholson
Christopher Walken
Al Pacino
Robert De Niro
John Wayne
William Shatner
Nicolas Cage

Anonymous said...

Luke: Your Top 5 predictions for 1998 Lead and Supporting Actress.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: You'll find them on Weaving's review.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Would you be willing to post your all-time top 25-50 films on Letterboxd sometime this year?

8000S said...

Ytrewy: Maybe for Wayne, True Grit?

Louis Morgan said...

Ytrewq:

Jack Nicholson - Something's Gotta Give
Christopher Walken - Jersey Boys
Al Pacino - Danny Collins (although I really don't think Pacino tends to coast)
Robert De Niro - The Score
John Wayne - The Alamo
William Shatner - Star Trek V
Nicolas Cage - Ghost Rider

Tahmeed:

We'll see, I'd probably like to do the 25 for the years I've already covered in the 2nd round first.

8000's:

I'd respectfully disagree, and say that is actually a very mannered performance as Wayne does a Wallace Beery imitation.

Anonymous:

I think the conception of the scene works, even the execution of it in microcosm, I think everything it took to get there felt like cheats though so the idea of Barry trying his best for once and Gene going to the extreme could work, I just think what it took to get there felt very forced.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Thought it might be worth an ask, but could you rewatch American History X? Curious to see how you'd rate/review the film now (and of course for Norton, even if I'm not holding my breath for an upgrade).

Mitchell Murray said...

Everyone: Asked this on the last post, but for anyone whose watched "Jujitsu Kaisen" and/or "Chainsaw Man"...thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-To-tIYrB1o&ab_channel=Eclipse_ofthedark

Also, another random inquiry...anybody's thoughts on the Kong Vs V-Rex fight from Peter Jackson's "King Kong"? I was rewatching that sequence recently, and Watt's compositing aside, I think it holds up. I think keeping Kong as a normal gorilla does ground his strength somewhat, and the sound editing is quite solid (the V-rex sounds are from camels, of all things). I'll go further and say Jackson's Kong is shown as a little more brutal and strategic than the recent films.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: If you've seen it, your take on Norm Macdonald's roast of Bob Saget?

Matt Mustin said...

Tony: He's seen The Spanish Prisoner.

Tony Kim said...

Matt: Whoops. I missed his LB review and was only looking at the current overall ranking.

Omar Franini said...

Louis: Is it too early to request a 2024 performance? Two days ago I’ve rewatched The Beast and I would love to read a review of George MacKay’s performance(s).

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

I can certainly make time for a re-watch.

Tony:

Favorite roast of all time, though like Macdonald himself, I would say roasting is far from my favorite form of comedy to begin with, and again just pure performance delivery that sells the bit of making tired jokes hilarious.

Omar:

I prefer not to have requests for the current year, because the lineups tend to naturally filter out since I'll see most of the potential nominees before I decide on the lineups. Having said that, I will definitely watch The Beast, and if he's indeed great I would not put it past MacKay from being saved naturally and eventually reviewed.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these South Park episodes

Fantastic Easter Special
The Ring
Over Logging

Marcus said...

Louis: Thoughts on Angus's breakdown after seeing his dad/the restaurant scene in The Holdovers?

Tony Kim said...

Louis: What's your favourite joke/line delivery in the roast? For me, it's either "Ladies and gentleman, this man is for the birds", or him briefly breaking character after the "well-wishers" line.

Speaking of Norm Macdonald, unless you plan to revisit it during the '98 marathon, what do you think of Dirty Work?

Mitchell Murray said...

Hey everyone!

Wanted to share that tomorrow I'll be going under the knife for a small procedure. It's nothing too major, and the recovery process should be quick, so I'm pretty confident with it.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, to respond to Marcus' and Tony's comments...

Part of why the "Holdovers" scene works so well for me is that Sessa plays it so bluntly and internally. He's not pouring his eyes out, but there's just this deep, sad resignation in his performance. He plays it like any joy Angus wanted to feel has been crushed, and all thats left is anxiety and fear of what his father's state means for him.

As for Macdonald...his style of comedy and delivery works very well for me. I don't know all of his material, but his appearances on Conan and heart attack "joke" I think are quite funny. Also didn't initally know he played the ferryman in "Klaus", but upon rewatch I thought "that voice sounds so damn familiar".

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Mitchell: Wishing you a quick recovery man, best of luck.

Mitchell Murray said...

Tahmeed: Thanks dude.

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Bugsy and Mugsy.

https://www.wco.tv/bugs-bunny-show-episode-148-bugsy-and-mugsy

A said...

Mitchell: Wish you luck!

J96 said...

Louis, how do you rank Disney films and songs of their Dark Age 1970-1988?

Emi Grant said...

Mitchell: Hope you'll be ok, dude.

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: Good luck to you, man.

Matt Mustin said...

Basically loved Challengers entirely, and I'd say it's pretty easily my favourite Guadagnino film I've seen so far, even taking into account how much liked Bones and All. Pretty much everything worked for me here, the marvelous script, Guadagnino's vibrant direction, the superb editing, the score from Reznor and Ross that will be hard to beat as my best of the year and the trio of great performances, with Mike Faist being particularly impressive and proving once again after West Side Story what a unique and talented actor he is.

Zendaya-4.5(Could go up)
Faist-5
O'Connor-4.5

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Mitchell: Wishing you good luck.

Luke Higham said...

Mitchell: Wishing you well.

8000S said...

Mitchell: Good luck.

Mitchell Murray said...

Thank you everyone!

Louis Morgan said...

Hit Man is a weird one to fully negotiate my feelings towards since what works, works quite well, the various hitman bits and disguises are very entertaining (though Powell as Tilda Swinton? didn't work at all), and Powell and Arjona have the intense level of steamy chemistry you don't see frequently enough. However, as any sort of morality tale it falls flat, or perhaps is supposed to be purposefully satirical that the audience will forgive too many people anything if they're this attractive? If that was what Linklater was going for it is hard to quite figure that out particularly with just how upbeat the film is, and how it celebrates the real story this is based on, when clearly what our characters have done is morally reprehensible. I haven't read the exact intention of the third act, but I shouldn't have to, the film should make it more conceivable because as is, it is quite the bizarre thing the film apparently wants us to buy into everything that happens as a feel good ending, and not a magnificent bastard type ending...which one certainly can pull off when it comes to rewarding amorality on film. Maybe it is supposed to be all a lie based on the last lecture scene, however if that's the case Linklater certainly doesn't grant any directorial clues to support that idea. I'm torn because as much as it fundamentally doesn't work, I certainly was mostly entertained, though I think the less you think too deeply about it, the better. 

Powell - 3.5(Would be 4 if not for the aforementioned bit)
Arjona - 3.5
Amelio - 2.5

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the casts of Hit Man and Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

Robert MacFarlane said...

As I said on Letterboxd, I got the vibe the black-heartedness of the ending was intentional, and it was my favorite thing about it. Maybe I'm just becoming more cynical again. Granted, I also liked Furiosa A LOT more than you did, so maybe were not syncing this year.

8000S said...

Louis: When Milius was working on Dirty Harry, he said he used Kurosawa's Stray Dog as inspiration.

Makes you think of a Kurosawa Dirty Harry with Mifune in Eastwood's role and Nakadai in Robinson's, doesn't it?

Mitchell Murray said...

Hey guys! My recovery is going better than I expected, but I'm still going to take it easy for the next couple days. Hopefully things stay that way.

In the meanwhile, I've been spending my down time playing "God of War: Ragnarok". Full thoughts will be offered after I finish the main story, but I will say right now it's fully delivering as a sequel to the 2018 game.

Also really like the portrayals of Odin and Thor, who are quite different to their Marvel versions, but apparently closer to how their described in Norse myth.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your 1960s cast & director for Ronin.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Thoughts on this John McTiernan interview? In particular, I'm curious to see if you're persuaded by his explanation of how A Midsummer Night's Dream was the main influence on Die Hard.

https://toisto.net/2024/04/19/john-mctiernan-on-his-career-shakespeare-and-the-language-of-film/

BRAZINTERMA said...

Louis: My winning request is Jofre Soares in Deadly Cruelty (1976)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Powell - (I would say he is less convincing as the nerdy version of himself and again the last disguise is a little too ridiculous in comparison to the rest, additionally didn't feel Powell sold it especially well. Having said that, he's very entertaining in building the disguise in the first scene of it especially, then has the appropriate fun with it as he grows in confidence and charisma, which Powell excels with here.)

Arjona - (I would say the way the character is written isn't exactly stellar and again I think if the film was trying to build towards its dark conclusion I think it does so in a fairly sloppy way. Anyway, Arjona is most effective just in terms of her chemistry with Powell, especially in the opening scene where their most playful bonding I actually thought was the most effective, however when they become overtly sexual it does work as well. And I did I like the certain darkness she brought in the character's confidence about the later scenes, though again I don't think the way Linklater uses it entirely works.)

Amelio - (I think this does make me question some of the later choices in the film because everything about Amelio's performance and character is "this guy's a jerk". Amelio I think does this okay, but doesn't really escape the limits of such a limited role.)

Teague - (His performance isn't quite at Serkis level, but nor does it need to be. He's just supposed to be slightly scrappy and determined though unsure, which you certainly see in his expressions. I will say though I did question why he could be obviously so openly disagreeable with Proximus and not suffer any consequences, though that is more so writing.)

Durand - (Certainly has plenty of fun in being so overtly boastful and aggressive in his way. I would say what is perhaps missing is that he's not all the menacing although again the writing where his character let's open hostiles wander about limits it. Regardless though he hits the right kind of over the top quality that is befitting a phony leader.)

Macon - (Best part of the film in every sense and a big reason why is Macon's performance where he brings just so much warmth and sense of wisdom in every word. There's just such a tremendous sense of this reasoned goodness about the character as he offers an attempt of words of connection and communication rather than violence which is just so beautifully realized in every line delivery by Macon.)

Allan - (The worst part of the film as just in every way she seems ready to pose in a very CWish kind of way that just rings immediately false. Her performance never really brings any sense of complication leaving the complication attempted by the script to fall flat. There's nothing to read in her expression which always consistently underwhelm. She's just kind of *there* with a character that needing to be actively compelling and frankly I think had the potential for greatness if a better performer had been in the role.)

Macy - (Decent slime ball performance in playing this state of passive desperation of someone who has settled for far too little and is fixated on the idea.)

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Well I'm glad you enjoyed Furiosa more, as I truly wish I been able to enjoy it more.

8000's:

All except I think Scorpio is more of a Yamazaki.

Bryan:

Ronin 1960's directed by Jean-Pierre Melville:

Sam: Robert Mitchum
Vincent Alain Delon
Deirdre: Siân Phillips
Gregor: Christopher Lee
Spence: Stephen Boyd
Seamus O'Roarke: Dan O'Herlihy
Jean-Pierre: Jean Gabin

Tony:

I mean in the vaguest way I can see what he does mean in the impact of the event to make all different groups impacted and the fact that in the end it is to get that final romantic beat. And in terms of the frequently comedic tone, it isn't as huge of a stretch as it sounds.

Overall one can appreciate that he senses the poor quality of his last two movies, and that sense of bitterness about the industry perhaps is in part of why he left the industry....that and with Rollerball where he decided to go full Whitehouse plumber and went to prison over it.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: I can understand the point he's making to the extent that I agree how important the comic touch was to the film, but it's just not really the type of humour that was in Shakespeare's play, and the similarities he points out strike me as being overly broad. It's a fascinating comparison, nonetheless.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could you consider doing a write-up of Fiennes's work in The Prince of Egypt for supporting? On a side note, I'm very surprised that "When You Believe" is your favorite song from that film.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: That song I found more effective in Hebrew than in English.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Luke: Eh, I'll admit the bulk of my problems with the song is its placement in the film. I find it perfectly solid on its own, but "Deliver Us" is my personal favorite.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Thoughts on these At the Movies reviews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWInoE9Qd_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3a4fWvEMSQ (The Brave One only)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76YwzLG-tFo&t=446s (Game Plan only)

Mitchell Murray said...

Update: Still recovering rather well...so much so that I could easily return to work tomorrow morning.

Game wise, "God of War: Ragnarok" continues to be an excellent showcase of modern gaming, though I'll admit the story is even more lengthy than I was expecting. Still, masterful writing and acting carry a lot of it. I'm really liking Ryan Hurst and Richard Schiff as Odin and Thor, respectively.

A said...

Mitchell: Glad to hear you’re alright!

I’ll admit to being somewhat lukewarm on Ragnarok, though I don’t dislike it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: I agree about Odin’s portrayal. I was surprised when they announced Richard Schiff in the role, but his interpretation as a slithery, neurotic control freak was honestly inspired.

Mitchell Murray said...

A: I had heard some minor criticism of the game, or people who just weren't that into it, so I can see your side. The bloated nature of it is definitely a setback for me.

Robert: His performance is working for me for two reasons. Firstly, it is such a contrast to many portrayals of Odin, such as Hopkins in the movies, which emphasize his nobility and physical presence. A second, it's apparently accurate to how Odin is described in myth, where he's often shown as very tempermental and obsessive.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, I am late to the party on this one, but to pivot to Thor's design/performance...I'm loving it. I think him being this bulky, power lifter guy makes total sense for Thor's strength and glutinous nature. Hurst I also think does a good job conveying his cruel, broken state, following the previous game's events and how other characters talk about Thor.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Mitchell: Is it just me, or does Scott Porter as Heimdall sound exactly like Tom Cruise?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Fantastic Easter Special is a personal axe episode, which is fine when Parker manages to make it entertaining, which in this case it is in doing the conspiracy in a funny way though that actually does have a point in the end, with a great moment in the rabbits following Stan, then just the sudden extreme it goes to when it continues to go to the more absurd though in an engaging way particularly the blade sunglasses moment that is an especially enjoyable capper.

The Ring I didn't find particularly amusing, pretty one joke of the evil Mickey which is funny at first, but even that I think quickly gets tired.

Over Logging is a bit all over the place, the Grapes of Wrath scene is great, as is the On Deadly Ground scene, I would say it is pretty sloppy and inconsistent overall however, but those two scenes alone nearly make it worth watching.

Tony:

Hard to top for the birds.

How MacDonald got that movie I'll never know...to quote Don Rickles. I do think there was perhaps a way in to using him ideally as a basic non-actor (though he does act in some of his voice acting), as he does have a presence...of sorts however it would've needed to be tailored around him better than this film does or with a director that could've gotten more from him, Dirty Work has some random laughs but not nearly enough to be even okay. I think it would've helped if maybe they had someone more seasoned as the sidekick as somehow Lange is less convincing than Macdonald, but really it needed an entirely different everything.

Marcus:

Powerfully acted scene because you see the quiet withdrawn anxiety in Sessa's performance that manages to convey both his sadness over what has happened to his dad but also envisioning what has happened to him. And contrasting that you see Hunham at his best at trying to actually be a supportive teacher for once and just a beautifully earned scene of connection.

J96:

1. The Great Mouse Detective (which can stand with any of the eras)
2. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
3. The Fox and the Hound
4. Robin Hood
5. The Rescuers
6. The Black Cauldron

1. "Goodbye So Soon"
2. "Greatest Criminal Mind"
3. "Heffalumps and Woozles"
4. "Someone is Waiting For You"
5. "Let Me Be Good To You"

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Like I said in the vaguest way possible.

Tahmeed:

We'll see.

I don't mind the placement, even if it gets caught up in the film's need to keep moving to fit in half of the runtime of the Ten Commandments. I actively dislike the pop version though...although that's common for me with the 90's pop versions including the Disney ones.

Tony:

The intensity of their Yoda debate is hilarious, though Ebert is 100% right about just about everything in his review, including the fact that Yoda spinning around with violent intent is against the very nature of his character. But you see the real lack of ability for Roeper to defend his takes, such as basically defending the romance as basically "But Portman and Christensen are HOT!" and his saying it is more visually interesting than the original trilogy is about as knee jerk reactionary as possible...and to think he gave thumbs down on Fellowship. I will say the earliest year reviews with Roeper at times could be particularly rough.

The most entertaining reviews of the Roeper and guest era were between him and Wilonsky, not necessarily for great critical discussions but the two had good comedic chemistry between the curmudgeon Wilonsky (who honestly seems like someone who mainly just like documentaries) and Roeper having to be on the constant defense. And this review is an example of such through the intensity of Wilonsky's dismissiveness against Roeper attempts to passionately defend the film...which haven't seen the film however he is diving a little bit deeper in his attempts here than in his Attack of the Clones review.

Speaking of, Wilonsky curmudgeonly qualities to great films (like Assassination of Jesse James) suffer under scrutiny when choosing to praise the Game Plan in kind of way that is almost a like "hey it's not that bad" which seems strange when going so hard on films that aren't trying to be disposable claptrap. And contrasting that, Roeper gets to be the comedic offensive, effectively from his takedown from the film to his utter disbelief at Wilonsky's decision to defend it.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: To clarify on the use of "When You Believe", it moreso has to do with the film rushing over Moses's guilt for the last purge (which is a really powerful moment I have to say), and then shifting over to the inspirational ballad. The tonal dissonance of it just felt...less than perfectly done, but I do appreciate the film actually showcasing the moral ambiguity at least.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the following casting choices?

Keanu Reeves as Officer K
Leonardo DiCaprio as Harry Fabian
Glen Powell as Virgil Hilts
Paul Bettany as Jack Carter

Anonymous said...

Louis: What is the most number of films you've ever seen in a single day, in either a theater or at home?

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: Keanu as K could either be really cool or terrible and which one he ends up being would depend entirely on the director.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Challengers is indeed great, Faist MVP and an easy 5 for me.

Mitchell Murray said...

Robert: I had a false memory implanted in my brain where I thought Heimdall's voice was Brett Dalton - who is in the game, but plays Freyr instead.

But yes....Porter's voice is Cruise-esque.

Bryan L. said...

Matt: Quite true. Admittedly, that one came to mind because I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077, which was definitely influenced by the Blade Runner universe, and where Keanu Reeves himself also voices a character.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

That is what I was referring to with the pacing as the film doesn't have the time to kind of have a moment to sit with something before jumping to the next because of all that they have to get through. As it makes sense for the jubilation at leaving Egypt no longer as slaves, but it doesn't give a moment to settle from what came before.

Bryan:

I'll concur with Matt, Reeves would either be terrible or compelling depending on the director. Though in any scenario I don't think he could pull the outburst scene with the dream maker.

DiCaprio too would depend on the director as I think there could be the wrong direction where one plays Fabian as too bitter as the fundamental note, rather than emphasizing the thrill of the "game". If DiCaprio emphasized the latter then he'd be great because it would play into his movie star energetic strengths.

I don't actually fully buy Powell as "cool", though I think he has charisma, yet. So not sure he quite has that specific quality I love about McQueen in that role, but he has the general qualities of his presence. From what I've seen from him so far, he has swagger but he's best where that is challenged in some way. Personally I'd put him in the Garner role, where he'd get swagger, but also get thrown off that with the relationship with Blythe.

I mean based on Gangster No. 1 most definitely.

Anonymous:

Can't think of a time in my memory of any more than 2 in a day for in Theater. For at home, hard to say an exact number though I'm sure there was some day where I was sick or even during lockdown where I probably had the most, though not sure what that number would've been. Maybe six or seven.

8000S said...

Louis: Do you think a biopic about Albert Fish will be ever be produced?

Talk about a real jerk.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

8000S: They made a pretty obscure one in 2007, but if someone tried to make a large scale biopic about him today, it wouldn't be pretty. It would likely be received just like recent Dahmer miniseries, where I've seen a lot of people be like "soooo...who was this made for again?".

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

Unfortunately, probably.