Monday 18 March 2024

Alternate Best Actor 1945: Danny Kaye in Wonder Man

Danny Kaye did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Edwin Dingle and Buzzy Bellew in Wonder Man.

Wonder Man tells the story of two very different twins, one an entertainer who is murdered by the mob and as a ghost seeks out his intellectual brother to make things right.

Kind of wandering through Danny Kaye's oeuvre you could argue him as kind of almost an auteur actor in that you can see the films are so clearly tailor made for what he brings as a performer, rather than any other element. What that means is we very much always get some kind of Kaye variety experience within the film, though this varies from film to film, but have similar trademarks to each. This film in particular is very open in this concept as we see Kaye get to play two variations on this variety as the two brothers, and really several others as we open the film with the entertainer brother Buzzy Bellew. Where Kaye brings a vocal delivery as a boisterous devil may care sort, where he is outgoing at every venture we see him and really every scene he approaches with a different accent or kind of riff as a character who very much is always on. This is broad, but technically it is broad in the service of a broad character who is purposefully broad, so it all makes sense, particularly for a film of this ilk. I guess where there's hesitation on my part, is I don't exactly love these opening Kaye riffs as much as I often do from him, as his random Irish accent for a moment or his jungle musical routine, are all fine, but I don't think are overly notable Kaye bits, as Kaye bits go and while I wouldn't quite say grating, I would say I kind of had enough of the in your face Buzzy right before he gets murdered by the mob, having been a police witness.

Of course as is frequently the case I did not read the synopsis of this one before going in so there was plenty of Buzzy left over, but first we have to meet Edwin Dingle, the brother of Buzzy who we meet very calmly studying in his intellectual space, with a very deliberate subdued and shy delivery. Kaye often plays the hapless man who is a bit shy and bumbling, but this is a purposeful notch more in really emphasizing it to make Edwin also broad in his own way, but broad in the way he is so intensely modest. And again as I see Edwin, I like Kaye's bit well enough he's doing in this way, but I'm not exactly sold by it the way I was in The Court Jester or Me and the Colonel. Anyway the crux of the film comes in when Buzzy shows up as a ghost, for reasons unknown, and asks him to pretend to be him to still take down the gangster therefore continue as his performer briefly as well. Anyway, Kaye plays off himself, okay, in playing the sort of expected ghost hi-jinks, of others not being able to see him, and playing against himself with the big big Buzzy and the small small Edwin. It's fine, if not overly noteworthy in terms of the bits as they go. The timing is kind of there, as is the general idea, but the moments just aren't as funny as they could be or as prime Kaye shows them to be able to be. Although we actually get far less of this as you'd expect.

The film then goes into what should be a series of hilarious situations as Edwin is the fish out of water pretending to be the confident performer and also being threatened by gangster, and getting flustered by trying to deal with both his and Buzzy's love interests. Unfortunately all of this isn't nearly as funny as it sounds like it should be when you're describing it, as more of the film is spent on the musical performances and less on really getting into some genuinely hilarious situations of Edwin being pulled into multiple places. When Kaye is getting to play Edwin bumbling around trying to be Buzzy, whether that is with the women, or in failed performances, or in even police interrogation, he's at his best doing that fumbling around the lines and physical sort of sloppiness that Kaye does so well. He's a lot of fun in these moments, even if at times the lines just are "where's Buster", but Kaye brings an endearing energy. Less interesting though are the romances, neither that go anywhere comically or romantically. Or the performances of Buzzy when he possesses Edwin to perform, which just aren't Kaye at his most inspired, not that they're terrible, but they're just not great either. And I think that is much of this film, which is likeable enough, but never beyond that. The whole idea of Kaye playing twins, playing off himself as a ghost, playing against gangsters, sounds like the formula for a great romp, but it's only okay as a film, and not all that much better as a showcase for Kaye unfortunately. 

90 comments:

GM said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

If You Want the Gravy said...

Kaye's movies got better after he stopped working for Samuel Goldwyn.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: your ratings and thoughts on the rest of the cast?

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

Lucas Saavedra said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Livesey
4. Flynn
5. Kaye

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

RatedRStar said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Livesey
4. Flynn
5. Kaye

Jonathan Williams said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

Luke Higham said...

1. Cregar
2. Brasseur
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

RatedRStar said...

Aaron Taylor-Johnson as James Bond, I really don't know what to make of this.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: This was rumoured for at least a year. I personally would've preferred Luke Evans.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on the scene from the original where Wonka shows the kids how the Everlasting Gobstoppers are made.

Shaggy Rogers said...

1. Cregar
2. Brasseur
3. Flynn
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the trailer for The Acolyte.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Forgot to make a prediction!

1. Cregar (outstanding)
2. Brasseur
3. Flynn (great work from him)
4. Livesey
5. Kaye

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Did you see Hedgehog In the Fog. My birthday was last Friday.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Speaking of 1945, I watched A Song to Remember. If it weren't for my current goal to see all the Oscar nominated performances, I'd have turned this off at the 30 minute mark... which took me about and hour and a half to get there, because I was constantly distracted. It's a pretty lifeless movie. As for the cast

Wilde: 2
Oberon: 2/2.5 (starting to become hot and cold on her)
Muni: 2.5 (has his moments, but overacts a lot)
Coulouris: 2.5 (not given much)
Nina Foch: is in the movie

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on the performance of this song (and the direction) by Burnham, especially the last couple of minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYy0o-J0x20&pp=ygUXY2FuJ3QgaGFuZGxlIHRoaXMga2FueWU%3D

Mitchell Murray said...

RatedRStar: Here we go again, eh.

I'll perhaps be the odd one here and say I'm fine with the choice. Let's go down the checklist.

Age: Johnson is currently 33. Craig was 37-38 when they filmed "Casino Royale", so close enough.

Stature: Johnson is 5'11", Craig is 5'10" - essentially a wash IMO. Also, we see from his other roles that Johnson can build a good physique.

Experience: The major difference I see is that Craig had a relatively scant filmography prior to 06', mostly comprising of Indie fare and at least two somewhat action based roles (Tomb Raider and Layer Cake). Johnson, by comparison, has had a more colourful and varied filmography up until this point. A lot of what he's done hasn't struck gold, BUT there is something to him consistently getting work in mainstream productions, and thereby having familiarity with big budget franchise movies like Bond.

Appearance: This is where I'd say Craig had the advantage, since he isn't conventionally handsome but has a definite edge and calculating look about him. Johnson still looks fairly youthful and doesn't immediately scream "cold blooded killer", but maybe he just needs a haircut, lighting and costuming and I'd change my mind.

Now here's where I'll also bring up some well known examples of questionable question...

People doubted Michael Keaton as Batman. People doubted Heath Ledger as the Joker. People doubted Craig right from the get go. My point is that casting is a funny business, and there are times when a risky choice can pay off.

Anonymous said...

Louis, do you still rank Norton in Primal Fear higher than Macy in Fargo for Supporting Actor 96. I know Macy is your win in lead but wondered if the rankings would change.

Matt Mustin said...

They're not actually picking Taylor-Johnson, let's consider this is also the same exact source that said it was Cillian Murphy last week.

Bryan L. said...

ATJs’ a bit too famous to play James Bond by now, as they usually cast up-and-comers for the part. He’s still in his early 30s but he’s also been around for quite awhile now.

Louis Morgan said...

Lucas:

Not much to say, Mayo's kind of charming in a slightly atypical role for her, but doesn't get to do much. Ellen is just fine, but just fine. And Sakall is welcome as per usual, but doesn't get to do much.

Anonymous:

Honestly one of the less memorable scenes overall, with one of the less memorable designs overall in the scheme of the film. Wilder is of course great even when delivering the scene which is more expository, and do have to enjoy Verruca's duplicitousness. But just to emphasize a point take Wilder's delivery of "Want to see" there's no reason he has to look around after saying that, he just does, and it's brilliant, because there's just something more mischievous and funny through that bit of performance.

Jonathan:

Uhh, wasn't crazy about anything in it, and thought the designs here honestly looked a little wonky, if not slightly fan filmish. Maybe it will be good, but that wasn't terribly impressive, and unless you're named Andor I have no interest in anything Star Wars unless it gets raves.

Tahmeed:

Pretty fantastic work, from the song itself that is first just hilarious as a parody of the musician doing a dramatic screed with the most ridiculous complaints about life with Chipotle and Pringles. But successfully does he go to seemingly something far more serious (at least as far as you can tell in his Kaufman type reality at times), regardless of the truth, he's powerful in his performance in going from the over dramatic to the genuine sort of anguish into the ballad of the performance. Also great visuals though that seem over dramatic at first, then when the turn happens the intensity of the shots and really the beauty of them, especially of the audience and of Burnham filled with light are so impressive.

Anonymous:

I mean honestly I kind of gave the win because Norton is genuinely supporting, and I toyed, though haven't stuck to the idea of always giving the actual supporting actor the win in Oscar lineups when they're very close in quality to begin with. But gun to my head I do probably slightly prefer Macy.

Louis Morgan said...

Regarding Taylor-Johnson, that may or may not be true, not impressed by the choice, I think he falls into the Sam Worthington wagon where he's best when being the character actor, not the lead. As even in his most Bondish role with Bullet Train, where he was good, I think it worked in part because he wasn't leading it.

Bryan L. said...

1. Brasseur
2. Cregar
3. Livesey
4. Flynn
5. Kaye

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: What did you think of the trailer for Alien Romulus

Louis Morgan said...

Jonathan:

Not overly impressed, looks like just a gore-fest, and I would be very surprised if we get actual characters, you know the thing that existed in the first three films. I mean maybe it can own the former aspect in a way that makes it work, but I'm not anticipating this.

Matt Mustin said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

Luke Higham said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

RatedRStar said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

Luke Higham said...

Louis: What rating would you give The Snowman (1982).

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

Tony Kim said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP M. Emmet Walsh

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
Tell us your ranks of 1945 nominees in each category:

PS :There are some categories that have a lot of nominees, so I'm just going to mention five.

Song
1. "So in Love" - Wonder Man
2. "I Fall in Love Too Easily" - Anchors Aweigh
3. "It Might as Well Be Spring" - State Fair
4. "Love Letters" - Love Letters
5. "Aren't You Glad You're You" - The Bells of St. Mary's

Score (Musical)
1. Wonder Man
2. The Three Caballeros
3. Anchors Aweigh
4. Tonight and Every Night
5. State Fair

Score (Drama or Comedy)
1. Spellbound
2. The Lost Weekend
3. The Southerner
4. The Woman in the Window
5. Captain Kidd

Sound Mixing
1. They Were Expendable
2. Leave Her to Heaven
3. Wonder Man
4. The Three Caballeros
5. Lady on a Train

Editing
1. The Lost Weekend
2. National Velvet
3. Objective, Burma!
4. A Song to Remember
5. The Bells of St. Mary's

Special Visual Effects
1. Wonder Man
2. They Were Expendable
3. Spellbound
4. A Thousand and One Nights
5. Captain Eddie

Production Design (B&W)
1. The Keys of the Kingdom
2. The Picture of Dorian Gray
3. Blood on the Sun
4. Love Letters
5. Experiment Perilous

Production Design (Color)
1. San Antonio
2. Leave Her to Heaven
3. Frenchman's Creek
4. National Velvet
5. A Thousand and One Nights

Cinematography (B&W)
1. The Keys of the Kingdom
2. Mildred Pierce
3. Spellbound
4. The Lost Weekend
5. The Picture of Dorian Gray

Cinematography (Color)
1. Leave Her to Heaven
2. National Velvet
3. Anchors Aweigh
4. A Song to Remember
5. The Spanish Main

Motion Picture Story
1. Objective, Burma!
2. The Affairs of Susan
3. The House on 92nd Street
4. A Medal for Benny
5. A Song to Remember

Adapted Screenplay
1. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
2. The Lost Weekend
3. Mildred Pierce
4. Pride of the Marines
5. The Story of G.I. Joe

Original Screenplay
1. Marie-Louise
2. What Next, Corporal Hargrove?
3. Music for Millions
4. Salty O'Rourke
5. Dillinger

Supporting Actress
1. Ann Blyth
2. Angela Lansbury
3. Eve Arden
4. Anne Revere
5. Joan Lorring

Supporting Actor
1. James Dunn
2. Robert Mitchum
3. Michael Chekhov
4. J. Carrol Naish
5. John Dall

Lead Actress
1. Gene Tierney
2. Joan Crawford
3. Jennifer Jones
4. Greer Garson
5. Ingrid Bergman

Lead Actor
1. Ray Milland
2. Gregory Peck
3. Gene Kelly
4. Bing Crosby
5. Cornel Wilde

Director
1. Billy Wilder
2. Jean Renoir
3. Clarence Brown
4. Alfred Hitchcock
5. Leo McCarey

Picture
1. The Lost Weekend
2. Mildred Pierce
3. Anchors Aweigh
4. Spellbound
5. The Bells of St. Mary’s

Louis Morgan said...

RIP the great M. Emmet Walsh

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

A 5 as very short animated shorts go...but I wouldn't say that scale is exactly the same as a feature film.

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: What do you think of these songs? Though knowing your taste, you may be familiar with a couple of them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROatPGGMvXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGAKkysp0Kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKYY0IlTMw4

Tony Kim said...

Louis: What do you think of these Sopranos performances?

Ray Abruzzo
Robert Iler
Jamie-Lynn Sigler
Frank Vincent

Bryan L. said...

Tony: He covered Jamie-Lynn Sigler in Jesse Eisenbergs' review for The Double.

Tony Kim said...

Bryan: Thanks, that didn't come up for me when I tried finding his thoughts through Google.

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: What did you think of the Beetlejuice 2 trailer.

And what are your top 10 songs from animated films.

Matt Mustin said...

Beetlejuice 2 is a good teaser, movie looks good visually and Keaton looks like he hasn't missed a step with the character. Song choice is hilarious, not sure if it's supposed to be or not.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: For songs that originated from films you haven't seen yet, such as "Accidentally in Love" from Shrek 2, would you rather wait until you've seen the film to comment on them, or is it fine to ask you for your thoughts now.

Michael Patison said...

Louis: Did you ever post your rating breaks on your 2024 actress and supporting actress lineups? What's your lowest 5 and 4.5?

Michael Patison said...

1. Pierre Brasseur
2. Laird Cregar
3. Roger Livesey
4. Errol Flynn
5. Danny Kaye

Tim said...

1) Cregar
2) Brasseur
3) Livesey
4) Flynn
5) Kaye






R.I.P. M. Emmet Walsh

Bryan L. said...

Michael: I think Lubna Azabal is the lowest 5 on the Actress ranking, as his thoughts definitely sound like a 5, and Benesch is a 4.5

Lowest 5 for Supporting is Rachel McAdams, since Marin Ireland is a 4.5

Tim said...

Tahmeed: I know i wasn't asked (and one commenter's viewpoint might not matter at all) but i think we should only ask for songs that are not in the actual movie.

Example: if Louis had never seen Titanic, we might as well ask about `My Heart Will Go On`. It`s only really used in the credits and is mainly there to set the mood and get a general idea about the film.

different: anything from a musical. `This is Me` from The Greatest Showman sucks in it`s own right, but gets even worse considering how it is used in the film. I personally factor that in when it comes to the Best Original Song Contest.

Your Example: `Accidentially In Love` is used within the movie to comment on a scene and the overall plot, which works simmilarly to a diagetic song, therefore is close enough to a musical number to factor in the overall evaluation

TL,DR: anything within the actual movie, i would not ask about

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these episodes?

The Simpsons - Fear of Flying
Seinfeld - The Airport
Frasier - The Matchmaker

Marcus said...

Louis: Do you think the following performers will have a realistic chance at winning an Oscar soon?

Edward Norton (if it happened twice for Sean Penn, can't see why it wouldn't happen for him in the right role)
Samuel L. Jackson
Ralph Fiennes
Glenn Close
Sigourney Weaver

Luke Higham said...

Marcus: Jackson and Fiennes are contenders for 2024.

Omar Franini said...

1. Cregar
2. Brasseur
3. Livesey
4. Flynn
5. Kaye

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on the cast of Road House.

Luke Higham said...

I guess McGregor got a nuttin rating.

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Abruzzo - (A hilarious largely comedic performance as the hapless mob son. He brings the right sort of over the top manner to the character who basically has lived with a somewhat prince mentality and treats the mob scene much more as just a kind of party he hangs around in then takes seriously at any point. He has great comedic timing consistently, particularly his attempt to describe the "dramatic" intentions of cleaver, and Abruzzo hits just the right note every time he shows up in playing I guy who is a bit thick, however has a certain charm about him regardless.)

Iler - (Part of it is yes I just don't care about AJ, and the majority of his storylines. But yes, I also think he's not exactly amazing most of the time in playing the not all that likable teen and there are moments where his performance is a bit thin to say the least, and even beyond playing a pretty thin character. Having said that, I do think Gandolfini might've gotten the best out of him, or maybe his talent just exuded off of him in a way that infected Iler, as the moments where he is best are the ones that he pushes Tony in some way that in turn pushes on AJ. And Iler I think did deliver to an extent in these moments, while also getting better I think when he got older, particularly in the suicide scene, where he is very effective in that moment of portraying the completely lost state of the aimless son at that point. It's definitely inconsistent work, but there are times where his performance worked.)

Vincent - (Took me 20 years to give these thoughts 20 YEARS!, Anyway one of the most quotable and just enjoyable performances, that of course is in the Frank Vincent line so to speak, and that's praise because only Frank Vincent could be Frank Vincent. And instead of getting beaten by Pesci here, we instead get him to have a role to feast on for a while and he makes the most of it. And he's extremely entertaining in just being so purely this character in this way, and I love that he is able to be hilarious in the way that often makes fun of the character, but still have genuine menace in the wildcard nature of Phil. But whenever he's called upon to give a bit more variation to the part such as the quiet moment of contemplating his future for example, Vincent completely delivers on any chance he gets, while of course being just a highlight of every other moment in just being one of the most entertaining characters on the show but again as a villain still being genuinely dangerous, even if often in a way it was in the same vein as he was hilarious. Vincent maneuvers that tone so perfectly, and it is easy to see how he and Pesci had a comedy routine together, because both so flawlessly are able to pull off that trick of the wiseguy who is fun and scary.)

Tahmeed:

If it is within the film I suppose, but if it is a credits song I don't mind. 

Louis Morgan said...

Jonathan:

Um...potentially hilarious use of the Day-O for the slow remix, which I have to assume was intentional. In Burton, I don't trust, but here's hoping that he pulls this one off, as more than happy to see Keaton say "IT'S SHOWTIME" again.

"Beauty and the Beast" - Beauty and the Beast
"Baby Mine" - Dumbo
"Be Prepared" - The Lion King
"Flying Dreams" - The Secret of NIMH
"The Headless Horseman" - The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
"Hellfire" - The Hunchback of Notre Dame
"I'll Make A Man Out of You" - Mulan
"Poor Jack" - The Nightmare Before Christmas
"La Resistance" - South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut
"When You Believe" - The Prince of Egypt

With the cheat of one song per film.

Tony:

Fear of Flying is another one where it is pretty sloppy storytelling wise with how Homer gets to fly and then gets tickets then discovers Marge's fear, then the resolution of that, but it doesn't matter because the jokes are hilarious whether it be overreaction to Homer's old sugermedo, Marge living through North by Northwest, the screams of her father "DON'T LOOK AT ME"or of course the less than helpful radio psychic.

Airport is just well crafted in terms of the every bits flow and bouncing off of each other with the different characters, and how they end up interacting despite not directly interacting as much consistently, such as Jerry annoyance at Elaine as the lowly coach trying to sneak in, or George getting burned by playing with psychopathic fire, and Kramer's failed revenge attempt.

The Matchmaker is very much an episode of its time, though I think the joke very much in on misunderstanding rather than on the gay character, or more so on Frasier more than anything, with some memorable moments particularly Niles's jubilation at finding out the truth.

Matt Mustin said...

The Matchmaker has one of my favourite exchanges in the whole show. "You know I'm breaking my rule for you. I don't usually date guys I work with." "Yes, well...I've sort of relaxed my rule for you too."

Louis Morgan said...

Marcus:

Well I think Ke Huy Quan's win tells us never to count anyone out, as the right circumstance could always come. But if we're talking about their seeming current standings:

Edward Norton - (Maybe he wins for Pete Seeger...probably not but you never know. I think he is garnering goodwill again that maybe he could find his way back again to the win, but I feel like even then he probably will just get nominated like Birdman if he shows up again. I think he's one who would need to get career best in a way that changes up his expected presence maybe to get voters to take the next step with him, which could happen.)

Samuel L. Jackson - (I'd say his chance is this year if he and The Piano Lesson deliver. I think overall though his chances are lower because of his prolific nature actually, as it only makes him taken for granted more and maybe causes voters to see him too much as an expected quantity. As even when he changed up his presence in Django, he didn't really touch the radar...although that was also due to massive internal competition).

Close - (The times running out on her being castable for Sunset Boulevard, which seems like her best shot. Otherwise random supporting part is her best chance, but she never seems to find the best films to be in, so I don't see it being overly likely. And it is clear the academy WILL NOT, just give her the win based on her last two losses, as they voted based on quality over career both times.)

Sigourney Weaver - (Sadly seems less likely than Close, as she hasn't even come close since the 90's and even then the Academy passed her up on those instances. She also just isn't in anything overly notable except Avatar of late. Maybe a young filmmaker will give her the role but doesn't seem like it.)

Ralph Fiennes - (Sadly I don't see it happening because he wasn't nominated for the Grand Budapest which was a top five film, it seems like he also falls a bit into the taken for granted. I think it would need to be one where it's a great film but he's also the story of it in a way. I really doubt Conclave is going to do it for him...though would love to be wrong.)

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Gyllenhaal - 3.5(Again enjoyed that he played the part as basically a psychopath in any scene where he's being so nonchalant about the violence, and is almost floating through the movie. It seems like he's trying to find away around the broken tone of the film, while being fun himself, and I won't say he completely fails as such, as I did think his weird breeziness kind of worked...though he will never compare to that similar specificity of Swayze's performance.)

Melchior - 2.5(Good on her for trying to be serious in this dumb movie, and she's entirely fine at being such...it is just in service of nonsense.)

McGregor - 1(If I'm being generous with the rating, as even the way he walks seems poorly acted, I mean the way he walks is just bad, like as though he doesn't know where to put his arms...it's strange. Then his over the top is just making the same odd grin and saying his lines so awkwardly that are just poorly acted at every moment. He's ridiculous but never in the way he needs to be because he's weirdly stiff despite trying so hard to be outrageous that he's outrageous in a stiff artificial way that is quite something to pull off...unfortunately that's not a good thing. Everything he does is atrocious here it really is a sight to behold, but even then not laughable enough to be Wiseau worthy.)

Magnussen - 2.5(Do I need to say anything, does he ever really give a different performance?)

Williams - 2(Thought there was going to be more to her character given there are weird moments in her performance that indicate that, but that doesn't turn into anything so those just stood as weird moments in a performance that is trying and failing to figure out the tone.)

de Almeida - 2.5(Unlike Gazzara, this is pretty much his career lane and does his usual thing...which whatever.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Swayze in the 89 film.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Same question as Marcus, but for the following actors? I've been meaning to bring that up too.

Ed Harris
Willem Dafoe
Viggo Mortensen
Isabelle Huppert
Michelle Pfeiffer

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Ralph Fiennes is a bizarre case in that similar to Tom Cruise when I mentioned this before, if this was 1997 and you had told me that Ralph Fiennes would not get another Oscar nomination after 1996, I would never have believed it.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Swayze - 4(There's a purity of his performance that weirdly makes the film as entertaining as it is, even if in many ways it doesn't have the trademarks of a performance that is amazing. But in a weird way, perhaps accidentally, Swayze's got enough actual dramatic intensity in his performance but filtered with just his light slight smirk style that somehow just makes him ideal as the world's most famous bouncer. It's very specific work that would only work in that film, in that way, but Swayze's ways has this real charm about it because he's so earnest about it that sells the whole ridiculous thing. If this performance was in most films, I probably wouldn't like it as much, but it's in Roadhouse and for Roadhouse it's ideal.)

Bryan:

Ed Harris - (I mean maybe he does for Long Day's Journey Into Night if it turns out well and he's male MVP ...you never know. And he's getting somewhat more prominent work lately, maybe he strikes the right role. But on the other hand seems like the academy's passed him by to an extent for A History of Violence, although they largely passed over the film as really I think Hurt got in through specific contrast of his performance within that film. So wildcard, possible, but current trends say probably not.)

Willem Dafoe - (If Florida Project had any gas outside of him, he already would've won. And really who doesn't love Dafoe? Seems like filmmakers love him as much as any of us, so he will have plenty of chances. Still needs the stars to align, but on paper he's got a better chance than most. Particularly since he got in as the sole nominee twice recently, I think if he can get in with a big film, it will probably be his time.)

Viggo Mortensen - (Like Dafoe, getting in on sole nominations twice is very notable, and really I could see situations where other actors might've been left off for Tony Lip, where he breezed to that nomination. Right now, his choices have been very idiosyncratic though so don't see it as something immediate, but hey definitely think if he gets another great leading turn, with a film that is fully embraced by the academy this time (where he's not overshadowed by his co-star, and in kind of a goofy role), it will be hard to pass him by. If he's going to star in a biopic anytime soon, he'd have to be on the radar.)

Isabelle Huppert - (I feel like Elle was an outlier, though her eagerness on the awards circuit shows she be game with the right circumstance. I wouldn't bet on it, but I think if she won CANNES (again), in a film that the academy can embrace, the new international voters could make a big push for her. Notable though she hasn't won a Cesar since Elle either, so it will need to be something substantial I think for voters to bother.)

Michelle Pfeiffer - (I don't really see it, she hasn't contended really even with her sort of minor efforts of the ilk, and maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it doesn't seem like she's pushing hard on the awards circuit in those circumstances either. Additionally her three nominations all came in short succession almost as a specific time for her.)

Mitchell Murray said...

Tony:

Sweetness (Jimmy Eat World) - Like the guitar work...less enthuasiastic about the vocal performance or overall structure of the song. It's not bad, but at the same time, it never really took off in the way it was trying to IMO.

Seven (Sunny Day Real Estate) - Well, similar effect to the last one where it just never fully clicked for me. Frankly, I think the singing is a touch too understated and really gets drowned out by the drums. Also, it did feel a bit long and meandering for my taste.

When the Sun Hits (Slowdive) - BY FAR the best out of the three, and a fine alternative showing. Unlike the other two, this one I totally vibed with the tempo and tone of. It really felt like a dose of surreal, spaced out melencholy, with instrumentals and vocals that complemented eachother well.

Mitchell Murray said...

And now Tony, plus everyone who wants to comment, I throw an uno reverse card...

Thoughts on the following rock tracks..

Heads Up - Royal Tusk
Won't Back Down - Disturbed
Torn in Two - Breaking Benjamin
Killing Me Slowly - Bad Wolves

Probably asked about the latter two before, but I don't remember if they generated much responses.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Since it's a 44 release, where would you rank the cast of Marie-Louise in their respective categories.

Anonymous said...

Louis, if you're willing to give them now, what are your ratings and thoughts on the cast of Marie Louise.

Anonymous said...

Luke, which films from 2007 could break into that years Top Ten when the Bonus Round comes.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Diving Bell is a sure thing. Maybe Lust Caution.

Anonymous said...

Luke, who would be your pick for James Bond

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I always wanted Luke Evans even though he's somewhat established now with Hobbit and BATB.

Luke Higham said...

Even Richard Madden would've been better after his work in Bodyguard.

Mitchell Murray said...

Related to Bond, I just wanted to share something I researched regarding the character.

Bond's appearance, particularly in "From Russia, With Love", has been described as the following: Slim build, 6 feet tall, 165-170 Lbs, blue-grey eyes, black hair, a "cruel" mouth, a vertical scar on his right check, and a comma upon his forehead. There's also a quote from Vesper Lynd where she compares his appearence to the composer Hoagy Carmichael.

This is sort of why I said Craig's appearence fits Bond more than ATJ's. Craig has the piercing eyes and general shrewd look to him, that one would picture with a cold blooded assassin. The additional trick, I think, is finding someone whose charming and charismatic, but not distractingly so. Bond's charisma really is an extension of his arsenal, and often is shown as an exterior to his broken soul. That's sort of the mold I would look for as a casting director - someone whose fits the role looks wise, but can also subvert that suave demenour as needed.

8000S said...

Louis: Thoughts on this scene from the original Willy Wonka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PJPJy00514

Tony Kim said...

Mitchell: Well, I listened to the last two, and I wasn't big on either of them. They both strike me as being too self-consciously somber, with overly "heavy" vocals that are drowned out by the blaring, harsh instrumentation. If the other two songs are anything like the ones I described, I don't think I'd enjoy them either. This type of heavy metal is just not something I respond to, I think.

Can I ask, though, how do you generally find out about new (to you) artists? Do you follow music news regularly or seek out up-and-coming acts? Do you use YouTube and Spotify recommendations? For me, it's a mix of all of those things.

A said...

As of now, what are your 25 favorite actresses ever?

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Any particular character actors you would have liked to see in Magnussens' part instead for Road House? I'm only asking because of what you had mentioned about the lack of a Ben-Gazzara-type in this one compared to the original, as it does seem like blockbusters are more hesitant to cast character actors in those roles nowadays.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Your thoughts on these bits from Fear of Flying? Easily the best gags in that episode IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jaAeTaG_ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Xr8vkuFZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSLMLHNY4QQ

Also, your thoughts on the episode Raging Abe Simpson?

Mitchell Murray said...

Tony: I tend to discover music from online sources - the big one being youtube AMVs. For instance, I first heard "I want to Live" by Skillet from a tribute to Obi Wan Kenobi. "I'm Dangerous" by Everlove was first shown to me from an AMV to Might Guy (Naruto). Occasionally, though, I'll hear a track on the car radio that catches my ear.

I've also had exposure to artists who make from existing media (like a Jonathan Young), or commisioned work for specific properties. Probably my favourite example for the latter is Brandon Yates, who composes many of the songs heard in "Death Battle". Seriously, check out of that guy's creations - there pretty solid.

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, random gaming note...I'm currently playing through 2018's "God of War" again, and recently ordered "Jedi Fallen Order".

The latter game I played with a college room mate, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I remember Cameron Monaghan being perfectly solid, even if his character is another young, hopeful, wise cracking Star Wars MP. My favourite performances in the game, though, were probably Debra Wilson and Elizabeth Grullon.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Detective Morgan... has the mystery been solved???

Anonymous said...

Louis: Where would The Rickshaw Man rank among your favorite Mifune performances?

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Mediocre Presidents, HMS Pinafore, See my Vest and The Spring in Springfield.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Hegg - 4.5(Just a very naturalistic performance that isn't about a complex portrait of childhood but a straightforward one that realistically portrays the severity of the situation but also moments that are just gently real of the joys of life. Her performance realizes each moment just with the right honesty as we see the sort of ease out of fear, the emotional heartbreak and the reluctance to let go. Her performance works as one of just being a completely genuine real child in every moment, where there is a lot asked at times where she delivers, even though she is frequently quiet, and honestly this film reminded quite a bit of The Quiet Girl actually. Her performance carries power in the silences and it isn't showy in any way, but completely convincing which is what she needs to be. I'm surprised that she didn't have a film career afterwards and that there is no information to be found on her whatsoever, as she certainly leaves an impression.)

Gretler - 4.5(The soul of the film and I'll admit the slightly grumpy man coming to completely show his love is an arc that is particularly easy for me to be moved by. Regardless though you do have to deliver and make it feel real which Gretler absolutely does. He brings such an innate sense of the fatherly care of the old man for the little girl that slowly grows over time and makes a particular impact because you see it against the contrast of the somewhat imperious powerful businessman he is otherwise. Gretler's so moving though by so naturally showing that sort of shield of the man break down around Marie-Louisa, whether that be the intensity of the joy he brings when he sees he's bringing her joy or the quiet heartbreak when he realizes he will have to deliver her some terrible news. It is wonderful work that is so very heartwarming and heartbreaking in equal measure.)
8000's:

I literally talked about that scene in this very comments section. 

Tony:

Guy Incognito is an all-timer bit from the appearance of the man, to the name, to Homer's astonishment at the immediate change in attention.
 
The Cheers bit is great, and I do like the irony that Grammer is the one actor not to appear. But great in quickly doing a brief minor parody, to becoming a real bar suddenly that is absolutely hilarious in the sudden outburst of violence, that may be more plausible for a man who spends all his time in bars. 

The final bit is just perfection of the subverted expectation of Homer completely knowing where he is just completely taken aback by the lack of safety precautions...perhaps he's not that bad of a safety inspector after all.  

Bryan:

Would've been a prime fit for Liev Schreiber...though might've also wanted to see him as Wade Garrett, honestly the lack of Wade Garrett in that remake doomed the whole thing from the start...I mean the man was a legendary...bouncer...show him some respect. 

RatedRStar: 

Entirely Marie-Louise, minor hidden gem, Dillinger, trash. 

Jonathan Williams:

I believe I've covered Mediocre Presidents before. 
HMS Pinafore also obviously is preexisting but I do love Grammer's performance of it, and the whole use of the setup for it as the stalling for time climax. 
See My Vest is a great parody of be our guest having fun with the amount of dead animals in Burns's collection, and the topper being his insistence of really loving the vest with Smithers's perfect "yeah I gathered sir".
The Spring in Springfield I wouldn't say is overly memorable as a song as kind of the cabaret number, though there are some funny bits in there is such a Quimby and his wife and it does work as the conceit of winning over the entire crowd. 

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Is Hegg 4th or 5th for 1944 Best Actress.

Louis Morgan said...

5th

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Thanks, I definitely need to see Marie-Louise now, I was not expecting 4 stars, I thought it would be seen as just an OK film and I had a feeling that Dillinger would be bad.

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