And the Nominees Were Not:
Holt McCallany in The Iron Claw
Milo Machado Graner in Anatomy of a Fall
Willem Dafoe in Poor Things
Jamie Bell in All of Us Strangers
Jonathan Tucker in Palm Trees and Power Lines
And the Oops! All Oppenheimer lineup:
David Krumholtz in Oppenheimer
Jason Clarke in Oppenheimer
Matt Damon in Oppenheimer
Casey Affleck in Oppenheimer
Gary Oldman in Oppenheimer
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The first lineup is almost entirely guesswork:
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Louis: Ratings and thoughts on:
Jonathan Majors in Creed III
John Magaro in Past Lives
Ben Whishaw in Passages
And Colman Domingo in The Color Purple
Luke, you predicted Damon twice
Is Damon finally getting a 4.5.
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
1. Dafoe
2. Bell
3. McCallany
4. Graner
5. Tucker
Just realized Magaro isn't getting a review, hoping he's a strong 4.5 at least.
I'm also happy to see Billy Elliot get his 1st review.
"Oops! All Oppenheimer" made me laugh.
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Louis: what would be your updated rating for Carey Mulligan in Maestro and America Ferrera in Barbie?
1. Holt McCallany
2. Milo Machado-Graner
3. Willem Dafoe
4. Jamie Bell (I’ll be kind of gutted if Mescal doesn’t get a 5 as well)
5. Jonathan Tucker
1. Jason Clarke
2. David Krumholtz
3. Gary Oldman
4. Matt Damon
5. Casey Affleck
1. Milo Machado-Graner
2. Willem Dafoe
3. Holt McCallany (great but should be Harris Dickinson here)
4. Jamie Bell
5. Jonathan Tucker
1. Casey Affleck
2. Jason Clarke
3. Matt Damon
4. David Krumholtz
5. Gary Oldman (where is Benny Safdie?)
Louis: Has Giamatti been upgraded for Private Life, or did you just forget to place Barney’s Version in his performance ranking?
1. Dafoe
2. Graner
3. McCallany
4. Bell
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
1. Dafoe
2. Graner
3. Bell
4. McCallany
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
1. Dafoe
2. Bell
3. McCallany
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Krumholtz
3. Damon
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Everyone in the Oppenheimer line-up looks like they're offended at something you said that sounded way better in your head.
Finally caught up with the last review, and man...Plainview has gone from befuffled confusion for Mortensen, to furious contempt for Bardem, to silly drunk for Cooper. I begining to think his spiral had less to do with ambition and greed, and more with having to witness such acting misfires.
As for alternate supporting, my initial response was "that's a whole lot of Oppenheimer", and I'd only the discourse here to gauge a prediction from. McCallany being reviewed also bodes well for Efron, potentially.
Zero guesses for Louis's Ensemble win this year lol. I think he might also include Ehrenreich and Hartnett in the review, but left them off for prediction purposes.
1. Dafoe
2. Bell
3. McCallany
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Luke, your rating predictions
More excited for the Lead lineup (Efron, Yoo, Sessa, etc.)
Emi: Krumholtz - "I don't know about that one chief."
Clarke - "You thought you snapped with that one, didn't you?"
Damon - "I'd take that back if I were you..."
Affleck - You serious?"
Oldman - *About to clap back at you with the power of 10,000 suns*
Maestro annoys me the more I think about it. I was hoping it would've at least been an okay biopic, but I just feel like I wasted two (2) hours. The kicker for me is that Cooper wrote the script, so there's even less excuse for anything he tries on a performance-level.
I'll be honest, I wasn't super impressed with Affleck, but it's not really his fault. I think he could've made more of an impact if Nolan just let his performance speak for itself instead of constantly cutting back to Damon telling us about him through the whole scene. I adored the movie otherwise, and I don't even hate that scene, but I don't love the way it was done.
I was actually much more impressed with Damon in Affleck's big scene, if that makes any sense. And in terms of creepers in Oppenheimer, I thought Dane DeHaan was much more effective.
I'll go with my own personal rankings for predictions and see how that goes.
1. Bell
2. Dafoe
3. Tucker
4. McCallany
5. Machado Graner
1. Krumholtz
2. Clarke
3. Damon
4. Oldman
5. Affleck
Calvin: Actually yeah, so I think either keep Damon warning about the character, OR keep the scene where he actually appears, but I didn't love the way he mixed both of them together like that.
I think Ehrenreich was good (and would love to see him in the review), but I noticed on my most recent rewatch that he was saddled with the only iffy lines in the movie (like the Kennedy line, or "you're out of the shadows.") That's about the only nitpick I have about the film and its structure.
Louis: Since you mentioned it as an appropriate double feature for Oppenheimer (plus Nolan himself acknowledging its influence), how do you think Robert Downey Jr. would fare as either Amadeus or Mozart?
Louis: Your thoughts on The Wind Rises as a double feature with Oppenheimer?
I mean, the best double feature with Oppenheimer is obviously Godzilla Minus One.
Lucas:
Ferrera is a 3 just. Honestly don't know why I was so generous the first time, as I think she makes too many sitcomy choices at times outside of her big speech, limiting her sort of connection as the connection to the real world, though that falls also into my whole issue with the tonal problems of the real world scenes.
Majors - 4.5(I won't pretend he is suddenly a terrible actor, though this performance I'll admit has a whole different shade due to those circumstances which I have no desire to talk about. So I will just say he does provide a good villain for the piece in giving the raw intensity of Damien where I do think he provides a certain sympathy within it by showing the vulnerability behind the anger with some understanding of the character's state of frustrations. Creating the balance to be the villain, but a villain who isn't entirely wrong, just mostly wrong, and manages to show how that bitterness comes from real hurt, while also is just vindictive at the same time.)
Magaro - 4(I have to admit I wasn't *as* impressed by him as many were by his work, and one of his major scenes is the one scene I don't love in the film, not that I hate it, where the characters get a touch too analytical to the point of coming close to Woody Allenesque. Having said that, I think Magaro does deliver most effectively on hitting this specific awkward note though wholly convincing note of a man trying not to be jealous, while being jealous, and trying to be friendly, while not entirely comfortable with the situation. He hits that grey area consistently, and I think as the "other man" provides an actual person, helped of course by the script, but does make him much more than an obstacle.)
Whishaw - 4.5(I mean perhaps I just didn't want to watch Passages again, which I just found the protagonist there just hard to be around. But having said that this is great work by Whishaw in portraying the different phases of frustration of the man trying to move on and be the mature man but keeps getting pulled in. Whishaw bringing the right nuance of the man who is trying to consider everyone's emotions far more honestly than his petulant boyfriend, and keeps getting thwarted. And while I couldn't care less about the overall relationship because of that central character, Whishaw I did find by far the most captivating element of the film who provided at least something I could care about.)
Domingo - 3.5(I mean mister is a terrible character for a musical, as an aggressively abusive man, how exactly is that supposed to work tonally? I wouldn't say that it really does, so I did appreciate that Domingo tried to play the part as honestly as possible without going into the easy paths of being way over the top or softening too much either. He does try to honestly be the man just angry and filled with his own desperations, and plays that note convincingly even as the film is kind of undercutting him at every turn with its overall tone. Really looking forward to Domingo being in a great film soon, because he obviously has the talent, but neither film was really doing him justice.)
Michael:
Just an oversight. Barney's Version would be #5.
Tahmeed:
Those actually were exactly the iffy lines I was referring to when I gave my thoughts on the screenplay.
Bryan:
Well as Amadeus he'd be terrible but Mozart he'd be great! Seriously though, young Downey actually reminds me A LOT of young Tom Hulce, so I actually think he could've been a great fit for Mozart, as he has that kind of energy and could've easily seen him in a 90's version.
Marcus:
A great fit, as very similar thematically in terms of the idea of the ambition of innovation that is co-opted by military purpose, and one having to deal with the impact, intentional or not, of that ambition.
Ah that's a shame about Magaro. He definitely did have a few of my favorite reactions of the year, especially when he first meets Hae Sung, and his face just screams "THIS is what I've been competing with?" Glad you gave him a 4 though.
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
I'm trying to imagine a box of Oops! All Oppenheimer cereal. "Introducing Berylium Berry, Plutionium Peaches and a deluxe lemon-based uranium overload!" or something like that.
Dafoe - 5/Youssef - 4.5
Bell - 5/Mescal - 4.5/5
McCallany - 5 (4.5 for Dickinson if he gets a write-up)
Machado Graner - 4.5
Tucker - 4.5
4.5s for Clarke and Damon, 4s for Krumholtz and Affleck, 3.5/4 for Oldman.
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Affleck
3. Damon
4. Krumholtz
5. Oldman
Dafoe almost feels too obvious of a winner but I'll play it safe. Feeling that McCallany, Bell and Graner will all get fives too.
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Krumholtz
3. Oldman
4. Affleck
5. Damon
1.Dafoe
2.McCallany
3.Tucker
4.Graner
5.Bell
1.Clarke
2.Affleck
3.Krumholtz
4.Damon
5.Oldman
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Are there any others you will be covering for Alternate Best Supporting Actor 2023? Like, what about Charles Melton for May December, Dominic Sessa for The Holdovers, Jacob Elordi, Paul Mescal for All of Us Strangers, or John Magaro for Past Lives? What about any of the cast members from Air?
Aharkin: Sessa is lead. He gave his thoughts on Magaro in this exact comment section.
Louis: I'll wait until Alternate Lead to ask about Bernal and others you'll be seeing this week.
Aharkin: Melton is also lead, and he gave thoughts on Elordi's performances and the cast of Air sometime ago. Mescal will be reviewers alongside Bell.
To Anonymous,
If he did give out his thoughts on Elordi's two performances of 2023 and the cast of Air, then where can I find them?
1. Dafoe
2. McCallany
3. Bell
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
Aharkin: You can search something like "site:actoroscar.blogspot.com Saltburn cast thoughts" in Google, which almost always works.
For newer movies, you can also see when Louis saw the film on Letterboxd, and then find the blog post closest to the date he saw the film through the sidebar. Then use Cntrl + F.
Elordi in Priscilla - https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2023/10/alternate-best-actor-1958-results.html?m=1
Cast of Air - https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2023/04/alternate-best-actor-1961-alberto-sordi.html?m=1
Cast of Saltburn - https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2023/12/best-actor-backlog-volume-5.html?m=1
1. Dafoe
2. Bell
3. McAllany
4. Graner
5. Tucker
1. Clarke
2. Damon
3. Krumholtz
4. Affleck
5. Oldman
1) Dafoe
2) Bell
3) McCallany
4) Graner
5) Tucker
1) Clarke
2) Affleck
3) Damon
4) Krumholtz
5) Oldman
Btw, thought I'd share this with everyone here...I rewatched parts of "The Favourite" last night (It was playing on the background while I was cooking).
Still just as funny, unique and brilliant as I remember. It's often very satisfying to see such a highwire act be pulled off so well. And while I'm normally a stickler for historical accuracy, this is one of those instances where the end product works so well that I can forgive it.
I also was thinking about something Stone said in an interview. When she was reading the script, she initially viewed Abigail as meek and quiet, compared to the dominant Sarah and lively Queen Anne. Then she kept reading....and I think we know the rest.
Mitchell: The Favorite/Poor Things has to be one of the very best examples of a director making two masterpieces in a row.
I don't want to jinx this, but the rate, at which Willem Dafoe is putting out great work over the past decade, and how busy he seems to be for the next 3-4 years(holy smokes), he might be a possible candidate to take over Mifune's record at some point in future.
Louis should probably check out some of his work with Ferrara and I've heard he's really good in The Hunter.
Awesome! Get ‘em all in on one post.
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