Thursday 23 December 2021

Best Actor Backlog Volume 3

 And the Overlooked Performances Are:

Kiefer Sutherland in Phone Booth
 
Alastair Sim in An Inspector Calls
 
Uttam Kumar in Nayak

Clint Eastwood in The Beguiled
 
Vincent Price in Theater of Blood

121 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Kumar
2. Eastwood
3. Price
4. Sim
5. Sutherland

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Sim
2. Kumar
3. Eastwood
4. Sutherland
5. Price

Emi Grant said...

1. Kumar
2. Sim
3. Eastwood
4. Sutherland
5. Price

Glenn said...

1. Kumar
2. Eastwood
3. Sim
4. Price
5. Sutherland

Aidan Pittman said...

1. Kumar
2. Sim
3. Eastwood
4. Price
5. Sutherland

8000S said...

1. Kuma
2. Sim
3. Eastwood
4. Price
5. Sutherland

Louis: Your thoughts on the "You're like a leaf that the wind blows from one gutter to another" scene from Out of the Past.

You know, you could say Mitchum's performance in that film is more or less a taste of what his performance of a younger Marlowe would have been like. You could also call Jeff Bailey a Marlowe type.

John Smith said...

1.Kumar
2.Eastwood
3.Slim
4.Sutherland
5 Price

Maciej said...

1.Sim
2.Kumar
3.Eastwood
4.Sutherland
5.Pierce

Tim said...

1) Sim
2) Sutherland
3) Kumar
4) Eastwood
5) Price

Glenn said...

Luke, what are your ranking predictions for each of the five performances.

Luke Higham said...

Glenn:

Sutherland - 4th (This is a predominately vocal performance and is why I'm putting him in 5th)
Sim - 5th
Kumar - 5th/6th
Eastwood - 6th
Price - 15th

Mitchell Murray said...

I'm not sure how to predict the line up, but I'm very interested in Sutherland's and Eastwood's reviews since the former is an actor in peak form, and the latter is rather against type.

Mitchell Murray said...

On another note, I did finish "Justice League Unlimited" today, and I have no issue seeing why it's so acclaimed; It builds and even improves on the original series' pacing/story, while still capturing it's spirit by placing it's characters - both famous and obscure - in fun and exciting situations.

And for anyone who's also seen the show, what would be your thoughts on the following voice castings/performances:

Kin Shriner - Green Arrow
Morena Baccarin - Black Canary
Amy Acker - Huntress
Nathan Fillion - Vigilante
Jeffrey Combs - The Question (Sort of reminds me of David Strathairn's voice)
Jennifer Hale - Zatanna
Ed Asner - Granny Goodness
Clancy Brown - Lex Luthor
Michael Ironside - Darkseid

HTT said...

Just want to announce that my full review of Rear Window is out now on my blog and my Letterboxd. An early Christmas present from me. Those who want to give some feedback should feel free to.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: He's in lead.

Luke Higham said...

Matt: Sorry, my bad. :)

Mitchell Murray said...

Random side question: Has anyone here seen "Young Justice" or "Star Wars: Rebels"?

There's a good chance I'll start one of them in the near future (Legend of Korra is also a possibility), and I figured I'd try and get a general consensus of them here.

Michael Patison said...

Mitchell: I've seen Young Justice. It's excellent. This is despite the fact that I find Khary Payton's voice to be one of the more annoying ones around after a while. The story, however, is unfailingly compelling; the animation is great; and the rest of the voice acting is very well-done.

I also love Justice League: Unlimited. I thoroughly enjoy all of those vocal performances, with the exception of Jennifer Hale, who I think is fine, but doesn't fully connect sometimes. I also think Darkseid is a dumb character who exists only for gratuitous violence, but that's not Ironside's fault.

Michael Patison said...

1. Uttam Kumar
2. Alastair Sim
3. Clint Eastwood
4. Vincent Price
5. Kiefer Sutherland

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

1.Kumar
2.Eastwood
3.Sim
4.Price
5.Sutherland

Mitchell Murray said...

Michael: I'll admit, I thought about excluding Hale since she's, as you say, decent but nothing special. I guess I wanted to bring her up because "This Little Piggy" is one of my favourite episodes in JLU, and I find Zatanna to be a very interesting and under-represented character.

As for Darkseid...well, he was never an especially complex villain in the comics, either; He is the literal embodiment of tyranny and destruction! He frankly makes Thanos (specifically comic book Thanos without the motivations/depth added by the films) look miniscule, so it's very hard to accurately portray that in media. I'll still say, however, that Ironside uses his trademark gruffness well in the role.

8000S said...

Mitchell: I always liked Asner as Granny Goodness. The performance actually reminds me of a performance in the original Japanese version of Dragon Ball.

And yeah, Darkseid might not be the most complex villain, but I don't think he needs to be complex, and I still like what the creators of the DCAU did with him. I particularly like what Darkseid does psychologically to Superman in Superman TAS, killing Dan Turpin, a cop who usually helped Supes and turning the Earth against him by brainwashing him.

Calvin Law said...

Saw Wolf, a weird one I liked but wouldn’t necessarily recommend to people unless they’re as big fans of George MacKay as I am. Another great performance from him though.

BRAZINTERMA said...

5º Vincent Price
4º Kiefer Sutherland
3º Uttam Kumar
2º Clint Eastwood
1º Alastair Sim

Razor said...

1. Sim
2. Kumar
3. Eastwood
4. Price
5. Sutherland

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: cast ratings for Wolf?

Matt Mustin said...

Miracle on 34th Street remake really made me appreciate the original that much more.

McDermott-2
Perkins-2
Wilson-1.5
Attenborough-4(But I still prefer Gwenn by far)

Robert MacFarlane said...

I remember liking McDermott on The Practice even with his Bahston accent. Maybe certain actors have That One Good Role>

Calvin Law said...

Matthew:

MacKay: 4.5
Drop: 3.5
Considine: 3.5
O’Shea: 2

Tony Kim said...

Louis - Are you by any chance familiar with Performance Review? It was a column by Mike D'Angelo in the now-defunct site The Dissolve where he discussed Oscar-winning performances while highlighting other, more overlooked performances that were in contention for the award that year. He takes a very different approach to analyzing acting than you do but I think you'd find it very interesting. Take a look if you haven't: https://thedissolve.com/features/performance-review/

Here are some entries I'd recommend:
https://thedissolve.com/features/performance-review/277-a-young-anna-paquin-took-oscar-in-a-year-filled-wi/
https://thedissolve.com/features/performance-review/84-rethinking-2002s-best-actor-oscar-with-a-subtler-a/
https://thedissolve.com/features/performance-review/375-renee-zellweger-delivered-an-acclaimed-divisive-pe/
https://thedissolve.com/features/performance-review/472-in-1999-michael-caine-overshadowed-some-fine-overl/

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Since we're talking about Christmas movies, I've seen Elf. Kinda cheesy, but it was funnier than I expected it to be.

Everyone gets a 3 except Asner and Newhart, who will be walking away with 2.5s.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: With the 2001 Lead Actress overall ranking, is Dina Korzun 6th, 7th or 8th for Last Resort.

Luke Higham said...

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Tim said...

Merry Christmas Everybody!

Robert MacFarlane said...

Ba humbug

Emi Grant said...

Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone!

RatedRStar said...

Merry Christmas everyone =D.

BRAZINTERMA said...

Hello Louis and folks! How are you?
Tell your TOP 10 best Christmas movies. I know it's like a lot of you guys have talked about it before, but it's the kind of list that always changes movies and shifts in positions.

10º Remember the Night
9º Gremlins
8º Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
7º The Shop Around the Corner
6º It’s a Wonderful Life
5º Scrooge (1951)
4º The Nightmare Before Christmas
3º Die Hard
2º Home Alone
1º Edward Scissorhands

Merry Christmas Everybody!

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Brazinterma:

1. It's A Wonderful Life
2. Scrooge
3. A Christmas Story
4. The Shop Around the Corner
5. Home Alone
6. Miracle on 34th Street
7. Die Hard
8. Scrooged
9. The Muppet Christmas Carol
10. A Charlie Brown Christmas

I really need to give Tokyo Godfathers a rewatch though.

Aidan Pittman said...

Merry Christmas everyone!

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Settled in with a film noir this afternoon, Hangover Square!

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your ranking of the "A Christmas Carol" adaptations that you've seen.

Louis Morgan said...

Merry Christmas all.

8000's:

I think the scene embodies well the Mitchum dilemma of this blunt understanding of the situation but also this kind of resignation about it. Honestly you can only see the world weariness that Mitchum brings to be fitting to the moment.

Tony Kim:

I was not aware of that.

Luke:

7th.

Brazinterma:

Feature releases only.

1. It's a Wonderful Life
2. Scrooge (1951)
3. A Christmas Story
4. Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
5. Die Hard
6. The Shop Around the Corner
7. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
8. The Bishop's Wife
9. Scrooged
10. Home Alone

Bryan:

1. Scrooge (1951)
2. A Christmas Carol (1984)
3. Scrooged
4. The Muppet Christmas Carol
5. Scrooge (1970)
6. Mickey's Christmas Carol
7. A Christmas Carol (1971)
8. The Man Who Invented Christmas
9. Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol
10. An American Christmas Carol
11. Carol For Another Christmas
12. A Christmas Carol (1935)
13. A Christmas Carol (1999)
14. A Christmas Carol (1938)
15. A Christmas Carol (2009)
16. A Christmas Carol (2019)
17. Ebenezer
18. Rich Little's Christmas Carol
19. A Flintstones Christmas Carol
20. Bugs Bunny's Christmas Carol
21. A Christmas Carol (1997)
22. Christmas Carol: The Movie

Robert MacFarlane said...

Any new 2021 viewings?

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

Flee, which is fantastic, I hope it gets nominated in Doc, Animated film and International Feature at this venture as it would be deserving in all three. Just such a powerfully told tale with great use of the animated form mixed in with documentary storytelling.

Encanto (which I know won't be defeated by Flee in animated feature but I would love to see it) gets by on its beautiful animation and songs (though I hated the opening number), but frankly I felt the storytelling here was surprisingly sloppy. The attempt at realizing the unique "antagonist" while admirable felt like the kid's movie format prevented it from hitting the darkness needed for it to work. Additionally besides the lead character and a late comer, I felt there honestly were too many characters as they all were defined by a singular idea to an extreme even as animated films go. Really was surprised by how poorly defined and forgettable most of them were. Again still I think is worth watching for the factors I mentioned first, but so much less than I think was possible.

Petite Maman is a wonderful simple and straight forward fable Celine Sciamma. Beautifully shot, naturally, but just quietly and well told.

Also Playground, the actual Intentional Feature contender (which I think Petite Maman would've gotten into the initial list if France had chosen it over Titane), similar approach as "Petite" though the opposite of a fable here. I liked the overall idea, as we're affixed within the kid's world in more ways than one, however the execution I don't think was as good as the general idea. Not poorly mind you, but just kind of decently.

Matthew Montada said...

Louis: ratings for the cast of Encanto, Playground, and Petite Maman?

Matt Mustin said...

I'm probably going to do a 2021 catch-up after Christmas. Speaking of which, I hope everyone had a good one.

Calvin Law said...

Glad you loved both Flee (which I do need a rewatch for I think), and Petite Maman (which I agree on being the more likely contender for a shortlist if they’d submitted it, though naturally I have to support the Titane inclusion).

Calvin Law said...

And Merry Christmas all!!

John Smith said...

dont look up is one of the worst movies I have ever fuck£ng seen. Cause they had all the resources to make a great movie. Amazing cast that are wasted. I can't believe the movie had a budged of 75 million dollars.

HTT said...

John Smith:
Saw Don't Look Up yesterday and I completely agree.

HTT said...

But on a bit more positive note, did everyone have a nice Christmas?

Luke Higham said...

HTT: The most low-key Christmas I've ever had in my life.

Luke Higham said...

Went to bed at 7 last night. That's how uneventful it was.

Matthew Montada said...

Hey guys. Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Here is a list of movies i’ve watched lately as well as my ratings for both the movies themselves and their casts

Antlers: 2.5 out of 5
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 0.5 out of 5
The French Dispatch: 3 out of 5
Ron’s Gone Wrong: 3 out of 5
C’mon C’mon: 5 out of 5
The Worst Person In The World: 5 out of 5
Don’t Look Up: 1 out of 5
Encanto: 4.5 out of 5

Cast Ratings:
Antlers:
Keri Russell - 2.5
Jesse Plemons - 3
Jeremy T. Thomas - 3
Graham Greene - 2.5
Scott Haze - 2
Rory Cochrane - 2.5
Amy Madigan - 2.5

The French Dispatch:
Bill Murray - 3.5
Owen Wilson - 3.5
Benicio Del Toro - 4
Adrien Brody - 4
Tilda Swinton - 3
Lea Seydoux - 3
Frances McDormand - 3.5
Timothée Chalamet - 3.5
Lyna Khoudri - 2.5
Jeffrey Wright - 4.5
Mathieu Amalric - 2.5
Stephen Park - 3

Ron’s Gone Wrong:
Zach Galifianakis - 2.5
Jack Dylan Grazer - 3
Ed Helms - 3
Justice Smith - 2.5
Rob Delaney - 2.5
Kylie Cantrall - 3
Ricardo Hurtado - 1.5
Olivia Colman - 2

Spider-Man: No Way Home:
Tom Holland - 4
Zendaya - 3.5
Benedict Cumberbatch - 2.5
Jacob Batalon - 1.5
Jon Favreau - 3
Willem Dafoe - 4 (MVP)
Alfred Molina - 3
Thomas Haden Church - 1
Rhys Ifan - 2.5
Jamie Foxx - 2
Marisa Tomei - 3
Tobey Maguire - 3.5
Andrew Garfield - 4
Tony Revolori - 1

C’mon C’mon:
Joaquin Phoenix - 5
Woody Norman - 4.5 (leaning towards a 5)
Gabby Hoffman - 5
Scoot McNairy - 3.5

The Worst Person In The World:
Renate Reinsve - 5
Anders Danielsen Lie - 5
Herbert Nordrum - 4

Don’t Look Up:
Leonardo DiCaprio - 3.5 (leaning towards a 4)
Jennifer Lawrence - 3.5
Rob Morgan - 3.5
Jonah Hill - 2
Mark Rylance - 1.5
Tyler Perry - 2.5
Timothée Chalamet - 3
Ron Perlman - 2
Ariana Grande - 1
Scott Mescudi - 1
Himesh Patel - 2.5
Melanie Lynskey - 3
Cate Blanchett - 2
Meryl Streep - 1.5

Encanto:
Stephanie Beatriz - 4
John Leguizamo - 3.5
Maria Cecilia Botero - 3.5
Mauro Castillo - 3
Jessica Darrow - 3
Angie Cepada - 3
Carolina Gaitan - 3
Diana Guerro - 3
Wilmer Valderrama - 3
Ravi-Cabot Conyers - 3

Omar Franini said...

Happy holidays to everyone.

Louis: my recommendations are, if you still accept them, The Stranger (1991) and Tabu (2012)

I’m a bit late, but I’m very glad you loved Drive My Car! Your rating and thoughts on Dae-Young Jin?
Could you also watch Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy in the next few weeks? Have you already seen Benedetta or I’m Your Man by any chance?

8000S said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Charles McGraw and Marie Windsor in The Narrow Margin.

You once talked about how Rick Blaine and Rhett Butler are very complex characters and how you hated Titanic for making the characters simplistic as possible, which I agree with.

Do you think the complexity of those two characters is also ignored by some people? I mean, they're iconic characters but they're also complex, which I feel it's often ignored. People will often point to Bogart's and Gable's performances in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and The Misfits as examples of complex characterizations.

8000S said...

HTT: I had a good Christmas.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your top 10 coolest actors of all time.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

Matthew: Guess I wasn't the only one not satisfied with how they handled Sandman in that movie

Bryan L. said...

1. Kumar
2. Eastwood
3. Sim
4. Sutherland
5. Price

Mitchell Murray said...

Happy holidays everyone! Hope you guys are staying safe and happy.

Calvin Law said...

I watched Parallel Mothers and really dug it, would love to see Cruz get in (like her more than any of the other possible contenders besides longshot Reinsve). Will hopefully be seeing Licorice Pizza tomorrow!

Mitchell Murray said...

Also, I did want to mention that I started "Legend of Korra" today (as in episodes 1-2 of Book 1). My first impressions are that I'm interested in the setting/time they've established thus far, and it does feel like a proper continuation of TLA instead of an entirely seperate series. As for Korra herself, she's certainly precocious - and maybe a bit of a brat - but that can be excused by her age. And again, I appreciate that she isn't some carbon copy of Aang, and that her personality traits come with baggage (at least currently).

I know the show is rather divisive in some circles, but I'm hoping I'll end up on the more positive side of the spectrum.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Have you started watching the recommendations.

Louis Morgan said...

I know this is going to surprise everyone but I adored Licorice Pizza (or maybe Dean Trumbell: Origins?) so much. It was just a experience of complete joy, and yet once again I was transported so vividly to this world. Loved just about every second of it, and was just beaming throughout it. Loved it, loved it, loved it, did you know I loved it? Really though as much as I tried to temper my expectations, which I failed at, they still surpassed them for me.

Saving Hoffman and the Hollywood lunatics (Penn, Cooper, Waits). I think it will be tough for Cooper to get in, but it's not unprecedented (However the precedent is William Hurt in A History of Violence so still tough).

Haim - 5
The Haims - 3
Safdie - 3.5
Gisondo - 3
Ellis - 3
Ebersole - 3.5
Harris - 3.5

Matthew:

Beatriz and Leguizamo - 3.5, 2.5 or 3 for the rest. Really don't have too much to say about any of them though Beatriz gives a nice zest to her performance, and Leguizamo a nice off-beat energy.

Playground and Petite are both very much director's pieces, though the leading girls I'd give 4 each to, I don't have much to say, though they give good low key realistic turns.

Omar:

I'll certainly accept them.

Not yet, but I plan on watching those three films soon.

Jin - 3(Didn't standout among that particular cast for me though, I liked his performance to be sure in just bringing a quiet low key energy that is appropriate for the role.)

8000's:

McGraw - (McGraw isn't any sort of idea of someone's leading man type, and perhaps is slightly charisma deficient in turn. Of course that is part of what makes it such an interesting leading turn in some ways, as McGraw's work certainly has a harder edge about it than you might've got in some studio choices. With that though he gives a rock solid portrayal of the sort of state of urgency of the situation with the right emotional quality within work.)

Windsor - (Very similar to her The Killing performance, in this sort of always on the edge of overt melodrama though in a way that largely works here. This as her performance manages in a way to play a part while being the part. Of course again not who you might typically expect in such a role, but overall a good performance.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I'm so pleased it's another winner from PTA. Thoughts on the cast.

Aidan Pittman said...

Louis: Thoughts on the cast and your updated PTA ranking (unless you'd rather wait for a bit first)?

Hoping to see the film myself tomorrow.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Also just had to mention the accusations of racism are pure BS, the character being racist is clearly framed as the fool, though I also must bemoan the fact that what amount to two minutes of screentime has defined so much of the press on the film is sadly so typical of the sorry state of film so called critical analysis and journalism.

Let me hold on the main Haim for a moment as it will be difficult for me to properly express how much I adore the performance.

The Haims - (Loved their little little bits of interactions are minor as they are, they all add a nice bit of character and sense of the family dynamic even though that isn't the focus of the film.)

Safdie - (This really a film where you could take almost any side character and make a film out of them based on what we get. Safdie here is terrific even in his brief screentime in showing the man putting on the good face, but also the same struggle in his expression all the same. This sort of difficult confidence of a man very sure of convictions though struggling wholly to be himself. He is a successful mix of the two, and I particularly liked his last scene by creating such a strong mix of genuine with the seemingly "necessary" facade.)

Gisondo - (Great casting and hair job, as he just embodied a certain kind of child star from the period so effectively. His performance only needed to do so much past that point, but he certainly did do that.)

Ellis - (Wouldn't have theoretically minded more of her, as I did like her eager chemistry with Hoffman.)

Ebersole - (Honestly she might've been a 3 but comparing her to Kidman in Being the Ricardos, Ebersole did kind of show how it should be done in some ways in terms of giving a fully expressive sense of a proper Lucille Ball type.)

Harris - (Harris really can make the most out of something even seemingly something that is limited. This is as she does in each and every one of her reactions. This as she never simply says or does anything simply. There is so much to every moment, and just richness of a single scene.)

Louis Morgan said...

Aidan:

I'd rather hold off.

Louis Morgan said...

Haim - (I mean there are few debut performances that just seem as pitch perfect as this one is in every single way, and Anderson's eye for talent is almost unparalleled. This is just one of those performances that just is on in that everything I found her doing in her was some kind of perfection no matter what. The age difference aspect I thought was actually essential to the story and again done with nuance and taste, however I think Haim along with Anderson was essential in this. This as her specific chemistry with Hoffman is so important throughout and in terms of creating the changes in their specific dynamic, however I'll save some of this as I'm going to get more into detail on this next year. Haim's work on her own terms though is such wonderful work in showing this young woman's struggle with herself and really is going through so many changes in terms of trying to realize her place. Haim's work is one of this kind of exploration in so many ways in creating the sense of trying to realize herself, and so many moments are that perfection because she so honestly reaches them. This of course is with such artful and really absolutely precise comedic timing. The comedy of her work though never sacrifices the very real sense of her character as a person either. Both go so naturally within each other, and again why I just love this performance to the degree that I do. Every second on screen was pure joy to watch and I'll articulate more why when I get to Hoffman. At this point I'll just say such endearing and luminous work, that is also this wonderful sort of haphazard sad sack of a person in so many ways.)

Bryan L. said...

Louis: Your cast & director for...

1970s Licorice Pizza
1990s The Power of The Dog
1960s Don't Look Up

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I’m glad to hear on that front if that’s the case.

Calvin Law said...

Also I would love to see some film get Harriet Samsom Harris in a lead role since it seems like she always delivers in smaller bits as well.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: your thoughts on the direction of Flee and Petite Maman?

Matt Mustin said...

Harriet Samson Harris also has one of my favourite recurring roles on Frasier.

Michael McCarthy said...

Glad you loved the movie Louis, Haim is currently Stewart’s biggest competition for my Best Actress pick this year (and I have seen Reinsve).
Also I’d give Harris a rock solid 4, she and Cooper have my favorite supporting performances easily.

Also saw The Tragedy of Macbeth earlier today and hooooo boy. What a great Shakespearean mood piece, naturally it took a Coen to make that sentence make sense. Kathryn Hunter is my best supporting actress winner assuming she is in fact a human, which was not fully clear from what she did in this film.

Matt Mustin said...

Michael: I guess Hunter's one of the witches?

Calvin Law said...

Matt: She plays all three, the way it's stylistically done is really brilliant.

Louis Morgan said...

Bryan:

Licorice Pizza 1970's directed by George Lucas:

Alana: Liza Minnelli
Gary Valentine: Kurt Russell
Jack Holden: Robert Mitchum
Rex Blau: John Huston
Joel Wachs: Charles Grodin
Lance: David Cassidy
Momma: Barbara Feldon
Jon Peters: Christopher Plummer

The Power of the Dog 1990's directed by Terrence Malick:

Phil: Tommy Lee Jones
Rose: Mary McDonnell
George: Ed Harris
Peter: Robert Downey Jr.

Don't Look Up directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz (To be truer to the film than with Kubrick, as this film is far closer to A Carol for Another Christmas which I watched for the first time this season, and is another example of "how not to do a message" movie aka hammer your ideas without subtly.)

Mindy: Kirk Douglas
Kate: Carroll Baker
Dr. Oglethrope: Percy Rodriguez
Jason: Keenan Wynn
The President: Ed Wynn
Peter Isherwell: Charles Laughton
Benedict Drask: Sterling Hayden
Brie: Ava Gardner
June: Sylvia Sidney


Calvin:

Although I will say I personally think the two brief moments (Less than 2 minutes of an over 2 hour film) are the weakest of the film, really the only seconds of the film I consider weak by the way (With John Michael Higgins probably going to keep the film from my ensemble win), but again the intention is clearly not to celebrate racism.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Flee (which also is like the perfect double feature with Persepolis) I think is a fantastic use of restrained animation. The animation is realistic purely, but nor is ever cartoony in that sense either. I think it finds just the right balance to grant the gravity to the truth while doing so in an engaging dynamic way. This with just quiet touches in terms of music use in particular, that are always intelligent choices that amplify each situation, rather than seeming ill-fitting. In addition I think the cut backs between the present context and past is particularly well handled in crafting personal stakes to journey while depicting, and having fantastic moments of levity within all the difficulty. There's this real sense of the person here that I think what the direction does so wonderfully. In addition I think the limited use of documentary footage is particularly well implemented to fill in just the right gaps.

Petite Maman of Sciamma's three films I've seen is perhaps her quietest work in terms of her direction, but also so keen is it felt. This as so much of the direction is the film as it really doesn't play into the fantasy, only till the end which it does with great catharsis, and as always when Sciamma uses music it is with tremendous impact. The rest of the time though she closes the perspective to the space and the little girls, and just quietly observes in a way that handles fantasy in a way so rarely seen, yet so quietly affecting here. In a way presented as a kind of realistic, or even childlike view of it, this as it is something that just happens, there is no need for explanation just as a child does not need to explain Santa Clause or an imaginary friend it just is. Sciamma presents it as such and it is just is, and that is the beauty of it.

Michael:

Yeah I'd raise her up to a 4, she does do so much.

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

Very true that is.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Louis: What would think about Tim Curry as Sweeney Todd in a hypothetical 1980’s/90’s version?

Louis Morgan said...

Also two more international feature contenders:

Lamb, which I kind of hated, and frankly I'll give more sympathy for Titane supporters when this got on the list over it. This is truly weirdness just for the sake of it. Honestly just like one more step it would've been full parody of A24...not quite sure it wasn't honestly. Beautifully shot though, performances are just serviceable.

Prayers for the Stolen from Mexico I thought was fantastic, also to digress but an example of a film of why I again I hate most Ken Loach films. Here you have this gripping tale of people in a terrible situation, but still trying to live and enjoy life. Powerfully told by having such sincere moments of just that living so beautifully done, that contrast against that ever hanging cloud of danger. It does this so well though in making you forget as the characters occasionally almost can at times, but with sudden painful remembrances that will rear their head in such horrifying ways.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: I mean, it feels like any great film has a short scene which doesn't work for most, so hearing opinions like this is reassuring and I appreciate it. I've had friends who've said the same as you + the scenes not working for them, but not in a way that really affects anything overall.

Either way, it seems like media is trying to escalate a feelings on a film nd some bad faith analysis that jumps on those readings on both sides into something more divisive, it into which is a shame as it kind of does hinder any genuine discussion.

Calvin Law said...

Also, finally something we can agree on - I hated, hated Lamb.

Louis Morgan said...

Robert:

I think he was a dream casting on a previous similar question, so a definite yes. Feel he could've been a perfect combination of factors needed for the ideal Todd, that particular malevolent/mischievous glare of his alone could've done wonders in the role.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Yeah, I think it is also important to occasionally be able to say, you that this moment might've not worked, even if you loved the overall film (like Psycho's analyst scene, or some of the Denethor stuff in Return of the King). But thankfully WE can have such nuanced discussions here.

Glad we agree on Lamb, honestly it would be hard to convince me that the director wasn't just trolling everyone with that ending.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Also side boon for you from me loving Licorice Pizza, I will be VERY unhappy if PTA loses to Branagh in Original Screenplay.

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Jean-Marc Valee. Only 58. Shocking.

Aidan Pittman said...

R.I.P. Jean-Marc Valee

Gone way too soon.

Mitchell Murray said...

Well I just watched "Don't Look Up" tonight, and I was surprised in that it isn't completely terrible (mostly thanks to its leads). What I wasn't surprised by, however, is that much of it was overlong, overedited, unfunny, superficial and undercut the severity of it's main subject by going for the gag right at the end.

Cast Ratings:

DiCaprio - 4
Lawrence - 3.5
Morgan - 3
Everyone else - A collective 2.5 (Besides Hill and Rylance who are 2s)

Mitchell Murray said...

Also...repose en paix, Jean Marc Vallee

Robert MacFarlane said...

RIP Jean Marc

I’m barely getting through Don’t Look Up right now, but I will say I think Rylance’s Oscar and all three of his Tonys should be revoked for this performance.

Matt Mustin said...

Robert: I really don't think it's entirely his fault. McKay pushed him that way for sure.

Mitchell Murray said...

Frankly, if "Don't Look Up" has reaffirmed anything for me, it's my investment and trust in starting "Legend of Korra"; There different beasts, but I know I'll likely gain more enjoyment and emotional reaction to that series than any/all of McKay's films.

Emi Grant said...

R.I.P. Jean Marc-Vallée. Saddening news.

Luke Higham said...

R.I.P. Jean Marc-Vallée

Robert: Boy you're still mad about Stallone losing in 2016. One bad performance doesn't negate an entire career, then again I remember you saying the same thing with Ben Foster in Alpha Dog.

Matt Mustin said...

Luke: It's just an exaggerated way of saying how bad he is, it's not a big deal.

Luke Higham said...

Matt: Fair enough, I know that is Robert's way but a statement like that is bound to rile me up whether he's serious or not.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the cast of Prayers For The Stolen with ratings (If any of them are substantial).

8000S said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the screenplay of Kind Hearts and Coronets.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Will you be posting your top 10 after The Tragedy Of Macbeth.

HTT said...

RIP Jean Marc

Calvin Law said...

R.I.P. Jean Marc-Vallée

Tim said...

R.I.P. Jean-Marc Vallee

8000S said...

R.I.P. Jean-Marc Vallee

Matthew Montada said...

RIP Jean-Marc Vallee

Also, I’m probably one of the few people in the world who was less positive about Licorice Pizza, and that saddens me.

Letterboxd Review: https://boxd.it/2oQxkT

Cast Ratings:
Cast Ratings:

Cooper Hoffman - 4.5
Alana Haim - 5
Sean Penn - 4/4.5
Tom Waits - 4/4.5
Bradley Cooper - 4
Benny Safdie - 3.5
Syler Gisondo - 3
Mary Elizabeth Ellis - 3
Christine Ebersole - 3.5
Harriet Sansom Harris - 3.5
The Haims - 3

RatedRStar said...

RIP Jean Marc-Vallée

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If you've watched them, thoughts on A Silent Voice and Perfect Blue.

Calvin Law said...

Enjoyed Licorice Pizza, some stretches more than others (and the bits I didn’t kind of treated them a bit like bits in It’s Always Sunny that don’t work for me, just moving past them) and the Bradley Cooper sections in particular I absolutely adored.

Louis: thoughts and rating for Joseph Cross? I thought he was fantastic in his short screentime.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

As an adaptation of the source material it maintains its general structure, though the tone is adjusted a bit more comedic, though this is amplified all the more by the direction and the wise casting of Guinness. The screenplay itself though maxes out on the irony and satirical edges of the material wisely. This while keeping the general outline though with appropriate streamlining and some careful adjustments particularly within the "romantic" relationship of the lead, which are superior to the screenplay. The screenplay I think which finds the right balance to this kind of sympathy for the murderer while also though fashioning the story in such a way to make it not quite a farce, but not quite serious enough to be off-putting. It makes you part of his sinister quest, but makes the sinister quest itself far more palatable. The books skewing closer to a Monsieur Verdoux in tone, and I think the final film's approach superior which started with the screenplay.

Luke:

In all likelihood, hence why I am catching up on some films considered the "best" of the year I haven't seen yet. I'll be diving deeper into the recommendations after I see Macbeth though I have started. Ted Lasso will slow things down a bit, as it succeeded on pulling me in. I did watch A Silent Voice though, a film I more admired than loved. I like some of its idea and the execution, however I think it was perhaps slightly too expansive at times losing occasionally, for me, the emotional thrust in a certain sense. Though never to the point I felt the film was anything other than successful. All the vocal performers I felt acquitted themselves well, but none stood out beyond that for me.

Calvin:

Well glad you at the very least liked it.

Cross - 3.5(I agree he is terrific and I love that Anderson really gives gravity and understanding to the relationship between him and Safdie in such a relatively short scene. Also liked the idea that unlike the other "weirdos" Alana has come across, these two are struggling in a situation that seemingly won't let them be themselves. Cross I think gives the right emotional undercurrent to the whole situation. I like how he conveys this sense of frustration though with a sense of real a true affection within that frustration, and is honestly quite moving in his final moment there. Honestly he and Safdie could go up to a 4. And again, kind of wish we could've followed almost every one of the side stories more, particularly Wachs and of course Jon Peters (I really want to see the whole deleted scene with him at the gas station that I imagine must exist).)

Matthew Montada said...

Calvin: ratings for the cast of Licorice Pizza?

8000S said...

Louis: By the way, I just finished watching Born to Kill. Trevor is fantastic as always.

Calvin Law said...

Matthew:

Haim - 5
Hoffman - 4.5
Penn - 3
Waits - 3
Cooper - 4.5/5
Safdie - 4
Gisondo - 3
Ellis - 3
Ebersole - 3
Harris - 4/4.5
Cross - 4

Shout out to DiCaprio Sr.'s cameo.

Louis: agreed, that story was the perfect note to end on I think.

Tim said...

Any chance Penn and/or Nolte might get upgraded for The Thin Red Line?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Saw Licorice Pizza. Are the criticisms of it valid? Honestly yes. Is it virtually perfect? Also yes. I, for one, welcome our discourse-inducing overlord and applaud him for making my favorite movie of the year.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Also: Surprise Ray Chase cameo! The dude had a good 2021.

Aidan Pittman said...

Finally watched Spencer last night. I liked it a good deal but felt it was just short of greatness because of the screenplay which I felt was pretty uneven, especially in the later parts of the film. Loved the presentation and of course the leading performance though.

Stewart - 5
Hawkins - 3.5
Spall - 4
Farthing - 3
Harris - 3.5

Louis Morgan said...

Tim:

I'll just say there will be more reviews for Thin Red Line cast members when I return to 98.

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