Ian McDiarmid in Return of the Jedi
David Bowie in The Hunger
Jonathan Pryce in Something Wicked This Way Comes
Jason Robards in Something Wicked This Way Comes
Michael Palin in The Meaning of Life
Takeshi Kitano in Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
For prediction purposes:
Pryce
74 comments:
For prediction purposes, Pryce or Robards?
Pryce would make more sense.
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
Louis: You ever watched Takeshis Castle? xD
Rating Predictions
Kitano - 5
Bowie - 4.5
Pryce - 4.5
Robards - 4/4.5
Palin - 4.5
McDiarmid - 4.5 (I'm praying for an upgrade)
Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Erland Josephson in Nostalgia, Christopher Lee in The Return Of Captain Invincible, Frank Finlay and Ian Holm in The Return Of The Soldier and the cast of Gorky Park.
Louis, Your thoughts on Alan Menken as a composer and songwriter. Your thoughts on Howard Ashman, Elton John, Tim Rice and Stephen Schwartz as songwriters.
Louis: Rating and thoughts on Mandy Patinkin in Daniel.
1. Takeshi Kitano
2. Jonathan Pryce
3. David Bowie
4. Michael Palin
5. Ian McDiarmid
Michael: Could I have your ratings on this lineup and Robards.
1. Takeshi Kitano
2. Jonathan Pryce
3. David Bowie
4. Michael Palin
5. Ian McDiarmid
1. Tikano
2. Pryce
3. Bowie
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
Louis: What actors do you think are the most poorly represented based on their Oscar nominations?
1) Kitano
2) Palin
3) Bowie
4) Pryce
5) McDiarmid
1. Kitano
2. Pryce
3. Bowie
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
Luke:
Kitano: 5
Pryce & Robards: 4.5/5
Bowie: 4.5
Palin: 4/4.5 (it’s been ages, I could definitely use a rewatch)
McDiarmid: 4
Aidan: John Wayne only received nominations for standard Wayne performances, so in a way, him.
1. Kitano
2. Palin
3. Bowie
4. Pryce
5. McDiarmid
Also just realized that I spelt Kitano's last name horribly wrong. :/
R.I.P. Philippe Nahon
Louis: You forgot to give me your ratings on your supporting actress lineup for the year. I currently have Dillon as a 5, with Cher and Harper on 4.5s.
As for my prediction:
1. Takeshi Kitano
2. Jonathan Pryce
3. David Bowie
4. Michael Palin
5. Ian McDiarmid
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid (confession: I’ve never understood the big deal about this performance)
Louis: what are your thoughts on The Fourth Man? I may watch it soon.
Louis what would be your 11 to 20 film rankings for 1983?
Anonymous:
Well let me begin with Menken, who helped to define not only the second grand phase of Disney, but honestly defined a great deal of the expected musical shorthand for animated films in general. Oddly enough his typically upbeat, yet complex, and engaging style began with Little Shop of Horrors and just expanded there. This with his music being enlivened and quite rich in a pure sense and the best sense when he is at his best. I'd actually say he's someone who is best when pushed harder. For example, the classical bent for Beauty and the Beast or the Gregorian chant style for Hunchback both brought the best out of him, as he took off with some truly incredible pieces in terms of entirely his own work. Like any prolific composer, his lesser material sounds like generic Menken, but it takes a supreme talent such as Menken's to be so defined to create that sound that instantly evokes himself.
RatedRStar:
Afraid not, but I guess just add that to Kitano as a true renaissance man...I will say though I wish American stars were more into the game show hosting scene.
Luke:
Josephson - 4(His performance most sort of goes beyond the position with Tarkovsky's vision. This as he we do get a sense of his own character as this man eccentric with an artist bent. Josephson's performance brimming with this sort of mania that is intriguing just as it is messy fitting either a truly genius mad philosopher, or just a crazy hobo in a way. Joesphson thrives though with that duplicity particularly his highlight scene near the end, where he delivers the sort of grand gesture through his work, while also possibly being a man just having a mental breakdown.)
Lee - 4(Lee is an actor who doesn't care about quality in a way, he'll deliver on his part, but I'd say he does that more than that here, in this odd production. Lee though is just having a blast in playing up being a villain in the most purely "I'm a villain sort of way". His highlight though is without a doubt his his snake like serenade as he invites Arkin's Captain to take a drink. Lee's having the right kind of fun that when he's on screen, you're having it along with him.)
Finlay - 3.5(Off to the side within the film however he finds a real poignancy in his couple questions as his eyes denote the man's concern, even as he puts up the front of the loyal husband keeping to such even as his wife may not be that. His little interaction with Jackson, that grants us a sense of their modest but still caring relationship is wonderful.)
Holm - 3.5(Holm offers just a nice bit of character as a character mainly there to deliver a bit of exposition. Holm though makes the most out of every word to grant a sense of who this man is even as he is there to serve a purpose within the structure of the film. This granting a sense of the character's quiet sympathies for his patient and the family of the man.)
Marvin - 3.5(Spoiler alert, a fine villainous turn from him, as his take no prisoners attitude works quite well as an antagonist. This in particular the final scene as his relaxed manner gives the sequence a particularly brutal quality by how Marvin plays it.)
Dennehy - 4(Although what happens to his character is a big "huh", Dennehy delivers a compelling initially antagonistic turn in portraying the intensity of a wish for revenge. He changes though effectively to convey a warmth and even camaraderie with Hurt that becomes rather endearing. Dennehy offering a consistent devoted turn, as I love the moment where he essentially sees a form of his brother's murder, where Dennehy reflects the grief so well, and another where he creates such palatable sense of reflection after Hurt's character leaves something to remind the man of his best self. Although I wish he didn't have such a cruel scene after that, but alas.)
Griffiths, McDiarmid and Bannen all give fine brief turns, particularly McDiarmid in bringing the right eccentricity in the man who seems to love the dead. All 3's.
Patinkin - 2(A bad theatrical performance. He's off a bit as the radical where he over-accentuates every line as though he's selling it to the backseats. He's then borderline atrocious in the later scenes in showing the character's breakdown which feels quite artificial with just how over the top he is. The type of misstep you see sometimes with theater actors in early film roles.)
Aidan:
Actors with more than one nomination (Automatically disqualified if they were nominated for their performance (e.g. Joaquin Phoenix):
Ed Harris
John Wayne
Charles Durning
Cary Grant
Michael Shannon
Max von Sydow
Michael:
4-9 are 4's.
1º Takeshi Kitano
2º Jonathan Pryce
3º David Bowie
4º Michael Palin
5º Ian McDiarmid
Hey Louis!
Closing the year 1983, tell me your TOP 7 best: score, poster, editing, cast and screenplay (adapted and original)
Louis: my request is for Roberto Begnini in Down By Law for 1986 Best Actor.
Louis: As we're now into May and Cannes likely to be cancelled, what would be your first nominee predictions in the acting categories and reasons why.
Frankly I liked McDiarmid a lot more in Revenge of the Sith when he just drops pretense and goes full Jim Carrey.
RatedRStar:
Well prepare yourself for an experience and quite the imagery, as I'm not quite what to make of it entirely myself, though boring it most certainly is not.
Anonymous:
11. Confidentially Yours
12. The Ballad of Narayama
13. Betrayal
14. Carmen
15. Risky Business
16. Local Hero
17. Never Cry Wolf
18. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
19. El Norte
20. Zelig
Brazinterma:
What's say top five:
Editing:
1. The Right Stuff
2. Videodrome
3. Zelig
4. Risky Business
5. Danton
Ensemble:
1. A Christmas Story
2. The Right Stuff
3. Danton
4. The Dresser
5. The Big Chill
Original Screenplay:
1. Videodrome
2. Tender Mercies
3. The Big Chill
4. El Norte
5. Local Hero
Adapted Screenplay:
1. The Right Stuff
2. A Christmas Story
3. Danton
4. The Dresser
5. Confidentially Yours
Posters:
1. National Lampoon's Vacation
2. Cujo
3. Return of the Jedi
4. The Right Stuff
5. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
Luke:
I don't know, that likely cancellation simply makes it even harder to predict than usual.
1. Pryce
2. Kitano
3. Bowie
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
1.Kitano
2.Pryce
3.Bowie
4.Palin
5.McDiarmid
Louis
I forgot to ask: what are your TOP 5 of the best blockbusters? And TOP 6 of the striking characters, not featured as best performances in the year of actors and actresses, but the most striking characters to the general public (for example Tony Montana from Scarface).
Branzinterma:
Blockbusters (We'll say more than 35 million):
1. The Big Chill
2. Trading Places
3. Risky Business
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Sudden Impact
Well I'll say most iconic characters objectively from the year, in terms of modern recognition:
Jabba the Hutt
Clark Griswold
Tony Montana
The Old Man
Joel Goodson (though more for the look, than the character, I think)
Damn I did not realise The Right Stuff was a flop. That sucks :/
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
5) Palin
4) McDiarmid
3) Pryce
2) Bowie
1) Kitano
your thoughts on Joe Wright's filmography and his directing in general?
Louis, Your thoughts on Howard Ashman, Elton John, Tim Rice and Stephen Schwartz as songwriters.
Louis: Other films to watch.
Meantime (Leigh/Roth/Oldman)
The Day After
The Terence Davies Trilogy
The Wind In The Willows
Trading Places (Upgrade for Bellamy)
Under Fire (Upgrade for Harris)
Barefoot Gen (A Precursor to Grave Of The Fireflies)
Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life
The Hunger
Streamers (Robert Altman)
Strange Brew (Rick Moranis/Max Von Sydow)
Yentl (Streisand/Patinkin)
L'Argent
Entre Nous
That Day, On The Beach
À Nos Amours
El Sur
City Of Pirates
Twilight Zone: The Movie
Lianna
The Gold Diggers (Julie Christie)
Cujo
Psycho II
Flashdance
The Keep (Michael Mann)
The Osterman Weekend (Sam Peckinpah)
Variety
Pauline At The Beach
Krull
Valley Girl (Nicolas Cage)
Project A (Jackie Chan)
The Boxer's Omen
Born In Flames
Curtains
First Name: Carmen (Jean-Luc Godard)
Breathless (Richard Gere)
10 To Midnight (Charles Bronson)
The Last Battle (Luc Besson)
And The Ship Sails On
The Makioka Sisters
Eyes Of Fire
House Of The Long Shadows
Heat And Dust (James Ivory)
Careful, He Might Hear You
The Sting II
Blue Thunder
The Death Of Mario Ricci
Have you seen any of these as well.
1.Kitano
2.Bowie
3.Pryce
4.McDiarmid
5.Palin
1) Kitano
2) Palin
3) McDiarmid
4) Pryce
5) Bowie
Cool Louis!
What is the film and actor who plays "The Old Man"? And what are the 5 outstanding female characters?
Darren McGavin in A Christmas Story
Calvin : Is Begnini Lead or supporting and your ratings for him, Waits and Lurie.
1. Kitano
2. Bowie
3. Pryce
4. Palin
5. McDiarmid
Louis: your rating and thoughts on Renée Soutendijk in The Fourth Man?
Louis: The only available copy of Flight Of The Eagle is on Blu-Ray.
And this is the Danton DVD with the Polish version.
https://www.amazon.com/Danton-Region-Free-English-version/dp/B00IFBZ8DA
Luke: Your Top Ten for 2019?
1. Parasite
2. 1917
3. The Lighthouse
4. Uncut Gems
5. The Irishman
6. Jojo Rabbit
7. The Farewell
8. Little Women
9. Knives Out
10. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (A tough call between it and Marriage Story)
I still have yet to see El Camino as I've only seen the first season of Breaking Bad.
Luke: That’s ok :)
Also, your Acting and Director win(s) as well?
Director: Joon-Ho/Mendes (I can't separate them)
Actor: Dafoe
Actress: Buckley
S. Actor: Pesci
S. Actress: Shuzhen
Luke: That’s understandable, in regards to the Directors :)
Lastly, your Top Ten for the Decade?
Bryan:
Drive
The Hunt
Birdman
Mad Max: Fury Road
Silence
Dunkirk
Blade Runner: 2049
The Favourite
Parasite
1917
Luke: Out of those, what would be #1? If you can’t decide, that’s fine.
Bryan: I'd probably go with Silence since it did have in my opinion the best overall ensemble this decade.
By the way guys, I don't have a problem if McDiarmid remains on a 4. 2 reasons why I picked him is that I wanted Louis to review a performance from all 3 OT films and Palpatine as a character has grown so much in stature over the years.
And speaking of Star Wars, Taika Waititi is directing an upcoming film project.
Luke, What are your top 5 Star Wars villains.
Update: Taiki Waititi has exited his Star Wars project due to “creative differences”.
Bryan: Lol, it'll be such a pity. Hope they sack Kathleen Kennedy before that happens.
Anonymous: Judging them in terms of Iconography, character development as well as performance.
1. Darth Vader
2. Darth Maul (Sam Witwer's voice work on Clone Wars and Rebels is incredible)
3. The Emperor/Darth Sidious
4. Kylo Ren
5. Darth Revan (KOTOR, Dark Side Path)
Speaking of Star Wars, actually, does anybody here watch the youtube series "Death Battle"? They just released their newest episode pitting Obi Wan Kenobi against Kakashi (Naruto), and just like most of their content, I think it was well done.
Nicolas Cage is going to play Joe "Tiger King" Exotic in a series that, let's face it, will probably be awful, but that is genuinely great casting.
What about David Spade. :)
Luke: Hands down, Spade would've been a great choice for Joe Exotic.
Louis: Have you rewatched Tender Mercies and The Dead Zone yet.
Louis: Rating and thoughts on Joe Pesci in Easy Money.
Louis: Thoughts on the Japanese voices for these scenes of The Matrix and Watchmen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CSIBc5LvLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtQ1igoMBSM
Anonymous:
Well lets take Rice and John first, as their film output is largely marked by The Lion King, as "team B" since everyone wanted on that "sure thing" of Pocahontas. John's cinematic work though in general in much like his solo career, in terms of the diversity of his work almost ensures that you'll probably at least like something from him. This in his musical ability with the grandiose "Circle of Life", poppy "I just Can't Wait to be King", " I wanna Love Me Again" or something entirely alluring in its minor key "Be Prepared". Each song shows that skill to craft something rather memorable in very different specific types of songs. Rice, who also has several of the more "dramatic" Aladdin songs under his belt, along with Lion King, showing a creativity with the lyrics to be sure. Although I will be slightly judgemental in his Bond Song that is decidedly underwhelming lyrics and all, or his particularly boring additional Evita song. Still his Disney work is that of a rather imaginative wordsmith.
Tim:
Well I like Pride & Prejudice well enough, I'm not crazy about the rest of his work, or his approach as a director. In a way it almost seems like I should be as he is a definite visual stylist, the problem is as much as you can see how he can produce a refined and usually distinct aesthetic, too often it begs the question of the purpose of the style. Take any choice for example from Darkest Hour, there's a lot of flash, but to what purpose, in that it typically distracts rather than adds to a scene. For me, this is the case to almost to some extent for each of his films. I don't think this is as a wholly untalented filmmaker, his films taken from an objective stand point are not that of a timid filmmaker, for me though his choices don't typically create a more compelling narrative unfortunately, though much effort is always on display in his work.
Brazinterma:
Well I suppose:
Aurora Greenway
Christine
Octopussy (if only for the name)
Angela - Sleepaway Camp
Alexandra Owens (again more for appearance I'd say)
Omar:
Soutendik - 3.5(Well I'd say the film really came down to largely Verhoeven and Krabbe, however she does give a striking enough performance. This in creating this certain allure in her performance but with it this near sinister quality within it. It is a character that is purposefully distant to extent, however effective she is in create something fascinating even in that distance.)
Luke:
Pesci - 3.5(There isn't too much for Pesci to do here, other than Pesci it up a bit as Dangerfield's equally rude friend. Well, Pesci pescing it up is something that is easily enjoyed and that is the case here. This being loud and brash, though in a more friendly sort of way. An enjoyable comic sidekick to be sure.)
Anonymous:
Matrix: Morpheus perfect "master" voice, Trinity fine, Agent Smith, evil sounding sure, but Weaving's specific cadence is very much missed.
Watchmen, well honestly Silk Spectre/Ozymandias might be better that way much less wooden. Rorschach and Nite Owl, actually both quite good in capturing the vibe of the characters, while doing their own thing. Dr. Manhattan, a little disappointing, as not quite omnipotent enough.
I've seen Meantime, Streamers and Heat and Dust.
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