Saturday, 19 September 2015

Alternate Best Actor 1940: Edward G. Robinson in Brother Orchid

Edward G. Robinson did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying "Little" John T. Sarto also known as the titular Brother Orchid.

Brother Orchid is a slight though quite enjoyable comedy about a retired gangster trying to reclaim his crown, though nothing turns out the way he expects.

Edward G. Robinson was no stranger to playing gangsters as he originally made his name through Little Caesar. Little Sarto is a lot like Caesar, if Caesar lasted a bit longer, and lived in a nicer world to begin with. The early scenes of the film are quite interesting to basically watch Robinson play the part of Little Caesar but in a comedy. What's so great is that Robinson does not take this as an excuse to not take things seriously. Robinson isn't far off from the way he handled Caesar, other than there is just a strong innate likability he brings to Little Sarto to begin. Caesar always seemed a bit unpleasant, that's not the case for Sarto. Robinson still though would be convincing with the same performance even in a more serious minded film, as he still carries himself with the command and certain menace that he brings so effortlessly with his presence. Robinson manages to use this for the purposes of comedy quite effectively since he ends up playing everything in such a surprisingly straight fashion. 

Robinson does not change his manner much that's what makes it so much fun to watch Robinson being basically Little Caesar though doing some things that are exactly fitting to Little Caesar. Little Sarto isn't really that different of a guy but in the early scenes of the film he's far more interested in where's he's going to be spending his retirement while having a very relaxed approach towards the life of the gangster. It's a great deal of fun just to watch Robinson do some pretty unassuming and non-threatening actions while still performing it as if he really was a big time mobster. There is actually really a surprising sweetness to this behavior that Robinson realizes as though Little Sarto is almost playing gangster, since he does not really have that edge that would require one to be a true mob boss. Robinson quietly shows that even though he's able to exude that tough exterior deep down he's a big softie. This is what Sarto unfortunately discovers when he attempts to reclaim his place as top dog, as his original second in command Jack (Humphrey Bogart) is not too keen on giving up what he got from Sarto's abrupt departure.

This leads to a gunfight which leaves a severely wounded Sarto who only finds refuge at a monastery full of monks. Here is where Robinson alters his performance slightly, but he does it so delicately that it absolutely works. What Robinson changes that he does start more directly going for laughs, although he was certainly getting them beforehand when not trying to do so. This is not a bad thing at all though as Robinson acts as the comic foil against the extreme straight men that are the monks played in a very calm and stoic manner. Robinson is hilarious though as he makes the gangster attitude and mannerisms all become a bit thicker as to accentuate the way Sarto just does not fit in, even after he decides to join the monks, in order to just use the place as a hide out while he plans his comeback. The way Robinson is just so off and out of place with the rest works in creating a series of funny moments. I particularly enjoy the way Robinson so quickly sounds off constant gangster speak that plays so well off against the monks who speak in a very straight forward fashion.

During his time with the brothers though Robinson does have some slight and momentary reactions that are very effective in suggesting that perhaps Sarto's beginning to see the place as a bit more than just a way for him to avoid his pursuers. Nevertheless Sarto decides to cut corners in his duties  as the new novice brother, brother Orchid, by stealing milk as well as hiring a local boy to do some of his chores for him. This is eventually found out by a senior brother which leads him to announce this shame in front of the whole monastery. The moment is surprisingly heartfelt due to Robinson makes Brother Orchid's breakdown so genuine as he reveals how much he has enjoyed his time in the monastery revealing a stronger pride in his life than he ever did as a gangster. This whole setup could have fallen very flat. Robinson not only manages to make it believable that Sarto could transform himself into Brother Orchid, but also that he makes this transformation and realization as heartwarming as it is. This is wonderful work by Robinson as he turns his usual image on his head, to give a delightful performance.

182 comments:

Anonymous said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Bogart.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Well, so far so good. Just need to hope Olivier gets either a 4 or 4.5.

GM said...

Louis, do you intend to see 'Dr. Ehrlich's Magic Bullet' also with Robinson?

And rating and thoughts on Sothern?

RatedRStar said...

Nice to see that Black Mass is doing well, Johnny Depp is likely to give his best Oscar nominated performance I reckon, which bodes well for 2015 scoring highly on the best actor rankings.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: We're gonna need 3 5s and two 4.5s, for 2015 to top 2013.

RatedRStar said...

I think that could happen pretty easily =D given the chances of who will get nominated, not a single bad actor in general so the chances of greatness are high.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar:
If my nomination prediction is right, then my predicted ratings are.
Depp - 5
DiCaprio - 5
Fassbender - 4.5/5
Caine - 4.5/5
Redmayne - 4/4.5

RatedRStar said...

I feel confident about Depp doing very well which is nice to see because he can be so talented if given the right direction, not just because of the comments Louis made, but also the comments Robert MacFarlane made as well which said the film was basically passable but with good work from Depp and the rest of the cast.

Anonymous said...

My rating predictions:
Caine: 5
Depp: 5
DiCaprio: 5
Fassbender: 4,5
Redmayne: 4,5/5

Anonymous said...

John Smith: Just watched Internal Affairs, it was very good, loved all the performances especially the one BY Tony Chiau Wai Leung. Even tough i felt the remake was better i still lovev the original. Now i just have to watch "The Killer", "Chunking Express", "Fallen Angels", "In The Mood For Love" since i have all of those available already.

Are there any more recommendations?

Anonymous said...

John Smith

And Louis your thoughts...

Scarlet Johanson- Lost In Translation, Match Point (Your thoughts on the films as well would be appreciated).



JackiBoyz said...

Anonymous: I feel fairly knowledgeable about the Asian market but I highly recommend you ask Daniel (RatedRStar) since he is like a master of the market as pretty much every Hong Kong film that was reviewed on this blog minus Leslie Cheung, as well as plenty of the bonus reviews were requested by him.

For some reason I cant see Youth getting Michael Caine a nomination, the film just looks too artsy to be taken serious by the academy.

Anonymous said...

John Smith

I have not seen it but in the end Louis rating matters more then acknowledgement from the academy lol. Caine is a great actor and i hope he does not disappoint.

By RatedRStar could recommend any korean movies, of give you some guidelines i would you to recommend those that you consider have the greatest performances. Your help would be appreciated (:

Luke Higham said...

JackiBoyz: If not Caine, I would've gone with Elba, but he's being campaigned in Supporting. I'm starting to get the feeling, that he's co-lead with Attah.

So, I'd either go with Cranston or Cheadle, but Caine, at this moment, certainly has the most potential to get a 5 out of those three.

Anonymous said...

John Smith: Bryan Cranston as an Oscar nominee would be wonderful

Michael McCarthy said...

Call me a cynic, but I'm predicting 4s for Redmayne and Fassbender.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: That's OK. :)

JackiBoyz said...

I think Fassbender will do well, I reckon he ll create a sort of Jesse Eisenbergs Social Network performance in that he ll be a three dimensional jerk. Redmayne is the one I am worried about, even though I thought he did well enough in Theory, I don't think this one will work, I can easily see Redmayne getting like a 2 from Louis and being the performance that sinks the year again like with 2012 and 2014 best actor where one weak link stands out.

Luke Higham said...

JackiBoyz: I know I said that Fassbender could get a 5, though that's due to similarities to Oyelowo last year. I'll be extremely pleased if he got a 4.5 for the role, as I do have higher expectations for Macbeth.

Anonymous said...

Are you not much of a Fassbender fan Michael?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Louis likes Fassbender a great deal, so that isn't the reason why Michael feels that way. He said before that he wasn't completely sold on Fassbender's performance and the last 5 minutes are quite forced, apparently.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Quite frankly I'm not very interested in the Best Actor pool this year. Best Actress on the other hand, looks fantastic.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: In terms of potential nominees, I'm equally excited. Overall though, I actually think we may get more than 5 fives in Lead.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I wouldn't be as confident, if Mulligan didn't get a 5 for FFTMC.

Luke Higham said...

Possible 5s for Lead
Alicia Vikander in The Danish Girl and Testament Of Youth
Blanchett and Mara in Carol
Saoirse Ronan in Brooklyn
Brie Larson in Room
Carey Mulligan in Suffragette (Though I do think, she might be the least likely)
Charlotte Rampling in 45 Years

Anonymous said...

Luke: And what kind of rating do you think Louis will give Lawrence in Joy?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: As much as I hate seeing her work with O. Russell, I'll go with a 4 but I'm hopeful for a 4.5.

Anonymous said...

Luke: I think De Niro will get a 2,5 or a 3. More of a 2,5.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: What about Cooper. He seems to bring the best out of himself, whenever in Lead roles.

Michael McCarthy said...

I think Michael Fassbender is a great actor, but based on the trailer I'm not a huge fan of the approach he and the film seem to be taking to the character. He looks less like the arrogant douchebag that Jobs really was and more like a full-on super villain.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I know that he's supporting, so I'm predicting a 2.5.

Anonymous said...

Luke: My prediction for Cooper's rating is a 4.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I hope your prediction comes true. :)

Anonymous said...

Luke: You know, it's kind of annoying that O. Russell loves to cast Lawrence in anything, but what are we gonna do about it, right?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Yeah, though I would like to see Cooper in the lead role again, just to see if SLP was a one hit wonder or not.

Robert MacFarlane said...

@Luke: Considering he was even better in Place Beyond the Pines and American Sniper, no he was not a one-hit-wonder.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I was referring to his collaborations with O. Russell. :)

Luke Higham said...

Robert: American Sniper is the best performance I've seen from him.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: And I did say earlier, that he brings the best out of himself in Lead Roles. :)

Anonymous said...

John Smith;

Silver Linings Playbook is my favorite since i have a friend that has the same diagnose as the character and it was a pitch perfect potrayl, incredible realistic.

Anonymous said...

Luke: O. Russell really loves to cast a young actress like Lawrence as an older person.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Yeah. :(

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

Wished she did another movie like Winters Bone ):

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

What's a good first Bradley Cooper film. A friend suggested Silver Linings Playbook to me, so that might be a good one, but my cousin wants me to see American Sniper. Which one should I see first?

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99:
I enjoyed American Sniper more, though ever so slightly.

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: I would recommend watch SLP first, then American Sniper.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99:
In terms of progression though, I'd start off with Silver Linings Playbook.

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

I would claim Silver Linings as the better movie

Robert MacFarlane said...

Place Beyond the Pines. I may be the only one here to bang the drum for his performance in that as a masterstroke, but I will.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Are we cool. :)

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: But American Sniper is my favorite performance of his.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Having seen all of these rankings and the like, I have completely altered my Oscar winners list. I knew something was wrong when Gary Cooper was in the top 10. I can give them if anyone wants to see them.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: We Cool? :(

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: What are your top ten, then?

Luke Higham said...

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Anonymous: For which category?

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: Both Lead Actors and Actresses.

Anonymous said...

Luke: Don't worry. I'm sure he's cool with you. :)

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I would just like for him to say 'That's Okay'. :(

Robert MacFarlane said...

Nah, I'm gonna be a dick and hold a blood grudge for the rest of my life. We are now mortal enemies, Luke. May God and the ghost of Roger Ebert have mercy on your soul.

(Yes, we're cool)

Luke Higham said...

Robert: :) :) :)

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Cooper was really good in The Place Beyond The Pines, and was my favourite of the cast actually. :)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Actor (winners):

1. Laurence Olivier (Hamlet)
2. Gregory Peck (To Kill a Mocking Bird)
3. Marlon Brando (On the Waterfront)
4. Charlton Heston (Ben-Hur)
5. Paul Scofield (A Man for All Seasons)
6. Ben Kingsley (Gandhi)
7. Clark Gable (It Happened One Night)
8. Broderick Crawford (All the King's Men)
9. George C. Scott (Patton)
10. Ernest Borgnine (Marty)

Actress (winners):

1. Vivien Leigh (Gone with the Wind)
2. Vivien Leigh (A Streetcar Named Desire
3. Jennifer Jones (The Song of Bernadette)
4. Olivia de Havilland (The Heiress)
5. Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose)
6. Elizabeth Taylor (Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf)
7. Olivia de Havilland (To Each His Own)
8. Katharine Hepburn (The Lion in Winter)
9. Greer Garson (Mrs. Miniver)
10. Joan Crawford (Mildred Pierce)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Anonymous: Whoops forgot to mark that.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: I'm so happy that you have Scofield and Cotillard on your lists.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Anonymous: I honestly bought La Vie en Rose n a whim and was blown away by her. I saw Scofield a couple years ago in high school, and loved him in it, along with Hiller, Shaw, Hurt, York, and Wells. Sadly, he is not in my top 10 nominees, as he ranks at 12th. Cotillard ranks at 7th, though.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: As long as you loved him, I'm happy. :)

Luke Higham said...

*Scofield

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

I can give you guys my best supporting actors and actresses as well if you wish. But I'm afraid to, since I love a performance Louis despises.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: Go ahead, We won't judge. :) You're fairly new to the blog, so everyone should go easy on you.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: If it's Cuba Gooding Jr. in Jerry Maguire, it still wouldn't bother me. :)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke: Luckily is is not. but here it goes.

Supporting Actor top ten of 20 winning performances:
1. Geogre Sanders (All About Eve)
2. Karl Malden (A Streetcar Named Desire)
3. Edmund Gwenn ( Miracle on 34th Street)
4. Timothy Hutton (Ordinary People)
5. Melvyn Douglas (Hud)
6. Van Heflin (Johnny Eager)
7. Peter Ustinov (Spartacus)
8. Donald Crisp (How Green Was My Valley)
9. Frank Sinatra (From Here to Eternity) whoops.
10. George Kennedy (Cool Hand Luke)

Supporting Actress top ten of 23 winning performaces:
1. Hattie McDaniel (Gone with the Wind)
2. Anne Hathaway (Les Miserables)
3. Jane Darwell ( The Grapes of Wrath)
4. Anne Baxter (The Razor's Edge)
5. Eva Marie Saint (On the Waterfront)
6. Rita Moreno (West Side Story)
7. Teresa Wright ( Mrs. Miniver)
8. Ocatvia Spencer (The Help)
9. Kim Hunter (A Streetcar Named Desire)
10. Claire Trevor (Key Largo)

Also, The top ten actors were from 25 best actor winners and the top ten actresses were from 28 winners. I hope to see more.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: Good lists again. :)

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: Don't worry about it.:) You can show us our top 10 supporting in each category. Also, which leading performances do you like that Louis doesn't?

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: Whoops. Posted that too late.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Anonymous: My main guilty pleasures are Gary Cooper in sergeant York and Jennifer Jones in Duel in the Sun. And of course there is Sinatra in FHTE and The Man with the Golden Arm. There is definitely more.

RatedRStar said...

@Anonymous who asked about Korean films:

I would recommend any film that has Choi Min Sik leading it, he usually gives great performances and carries a film well, Mother is quite a good film as well with a great leading performance by Kim Hye-Ja.

What kind of films r u looking for from Hong Kong?.


@JackiBoyz: I would not call myself an expert on Hong Kong films I am afraid, I just happen to see a fair few that were nominated at the HK awards.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: It was John Smith, who's currently going by an anonymous identity, since something must be up with his blogger profile.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

As for supporting, my main ones Louis did not like are O'Brien in The Barefoot Contessa, Charles Bickford in The Song of Bernadette, Anne Revere in National Velvet, and George Chakiris in West Side Story.

I will eventually see several more movies with Oscar nominated performances. Here are the ones I own, but still need to see.

Geraldine Page in Hondo (Look forward to)

Audrey Hepburn in Sabrina (LFT)

Tom Hanks and Gary Sinise in Forrest Gump (Don't care to see)

Morgan Freeman in The Shawshank Redemption (LFT)

Kim Basinger in LA Confidential (LFT)

Michael Clarke Duncan in The Green Mile (Not sure)

Jude Law and Renee Zellweger in Cold Mountain (Mixed, mostly due to Zellweger)

Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side (Not sure)

Jesse Eisenburg in The Social Network (LFT)

Barkhad Abdi in Captain Phillips (LFT)

RatedRStar said...

I actually really love From Here to Eternity, it feels like a true classic best picture winner with Montgomery Clift just being so darn amazing =D, I cant really defend Franky too much but, I liked him a little more I guess than Louis lol.

I should say I also loved Stalag 17 as well but I just cant give Holden the win over Clift, I just cant do it, Clift just did something so powerful that even though Holden was so venomous and entertaining, I really cant even come close to having Clift lose lol.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Eisenberg might take more than one viewing to appreciate. Before watching the film, keep in mind two things; First, pay attention to his eyes. That's a key to seeing what he adds to the character. Second, remember that the majority of the film is told through secondhand pre-trial deposition and not from what Zuckerberg actually says. That's the key to see what the role truly is.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

RatedRStar: If I see it again, I probably won't like Sinatra as much, but will likely end up liking Kerr more. Really loved Reed, Lancaster, Borgnine, and especially Clift.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Robert: Ok thanks! Will I like the other performances I mentioned as well? Or should I skip them?

JackiBoyz said...

RatedRStar: I think you are an expert =)

Luke Higham said...
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Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99:
I recommend Freeman, Abdi and Michael Clarke Duncan. Have no say on Page though.

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: What are your ratings and thoughts on Jones and Cooper?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Well, Basinger is the least impressive of the L.A. cast, but the rest of the film is flawless enough to make up for her.

Forrest Gump is shit, but you can at least learn from it if only to watch for a snapshot of 90's POV of Baby Boomer nostalgia.

The Blind Side has no merit whatsoever, avoid at all costs.

The Green Mile has not aged well, and no matter what anyone tells you, there is no such thing as the "Magical Negro" trope done right. It's always going to be racist and manipulative.

Captain Phillips is actually kind of overpraised as a film, but Barkhad Abdi is sublime. He should have won in a walk. Hanks... well, I guess he's just not my "thing", but I get why so many others love him here more than I understood with Gump or Philadelphia.

Shawshank lives up to its reputation, so I'd call it an essential viewing.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke and Robert: I have a great interest in Page (even though I have only seen The Rescuers), so I will probably end up liking her style regardless.

I hear a lot of praise for Abdi. Is he your winner of the 5 nominees that year?

Duncan is an actor who interests me as well, but not as much as Page. Sadly, the movies I have seen him in are trash (Air Buddies stands among the worst I have ever seen).

I bought Shawshank because I made a deal with a friend that if I watch that and Inception (his favorite movie, which I still need to see), he will watch Gone with the Wind. It is from this movie that I heard of Gilda, my first film noir.

In all honesty, I have taken great interest in Basinger. It seems that I like actresses (this excludes Page) that are not very well liked. I will probably end up loving the movie and her.

I watched a bit of Gump in school for a film class, since "everyone wanted to watch it. Not impressed with what I saw. Most likely will be my new worst BP (Platoon takes the spot for some reason (Sheen, maybe). Now I am also hesitant to see Philadelphia, but I made it my goal to see every nominated performance.

Bullock seems to have the reputation of being the "worst Best Actress Winner". What are your thoughts on that and who would your winner from that year be?

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99:
My winner for 2013 Supporting is Ben Foster in Ain't Them Bodies Saints and I love his performance in Lone Survivor, as well as Fassbender, Abdi and McConaughey (Wolf Of Wall Street).

For 2009, MULLIGANNNNNNNNNN! :)

Bullock's capable of greatness, even though she doesn't show it on a regular basis. I thought she was fantastic in Gravity, but she was just fine in The Blind Side.

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99: My 2013 Supporting is Fassbender in 12 Years A Slave. Foster is also amazing in Ain't Them Bodies Saints and Lone Survivor, Abdi and McConaughey (WOWS).
Mulligan is my 2009 win for Best Actress.
I think that Bullock was just give me an Oscar please in that film. I did love her in Gravity and liked her in Speed.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Abdi was my win for the entire year, and honestly it wasn't very close. The nominees weren't exactly my thing wither. Fassbender didn't stick with me like I thought he would, Cooper I didn't hate like the others but wasn't over-the-moon towards, Hill get more irritating with each viewing, and didn't really buy Leto outside of his last two scenes. Outside the nominees, the only other performance I have any real enthusiasm for is Ben Foster's tender work in Ain't Them Bodies Saints.

Bullock... wasn't good in it, that's for sure. A lot of hammy "Sawthawn" accenting, smarmy attempts at warmth, and sort of aides the film's saccharine tone. There was one or two moments where she was with McGraw that were decent, but it's not enough. My win is Carey Mulligan, though there's a few un-nominated performances I need to still see.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Anonymous:

Jones is maybe a 3 or 3.5, which is very high or this. Despite her low placement on my overall Best Actress nominees list, I still like her. The only one I may not like is Diana Wynyard. Jone is, without a doubt, very over the top, but I tend to like those kind of performances. I like being entertained. As for the movie, I love it. Not as much as I used to, but it still is a favorite (I have a lot of favorites). The ending is still... interesting to say the least.

Cooper: 2.5 or 3. Cooper actually ranks among my top 20 favorite actors, though I still don't love him as much as some people. He has some good moments, but they do take a while to get there. He is in my bottom 10 worst BA nominees, but I still like him. (I only dislike of them, and Lewis Stone does not even count anymore) The movie is oddly a favorite, but that may change on a second viewing.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99 & Robert: My Overall win for '09 is Kim Hye-Ja in Mother.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Bogart - 3(He's very straight forward as just a gangster of the simplest sort, and he's not really given much to do. He does well with what he has though)

GM:

Perhaps to the first question.

Sothern - 4(Quite enjoyed her performance as she has a sweet chemistry in her scenes with Robinson, and she manages to make something quite endearing about her character's particularly unassuming manner. I particularly like how she interacts with Robinson, and Ralph Bellamy in a way in that it never feels like she's playing either of them, and simply likes both them.)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Anything new. :)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke: From your reaction to Louis giving Mulligan a 5 for FFTMC and this, I would have to guess she is a favorite.

Robert: When it comes to accents, I don't really care. Though I do think Vivien Leigh did them very well in GWTW and ASND. Some are very distracting though (Brando in Sayonara, The Teahouse of the August Moon, and The Young Lions).

I have seen Bullock in Gravity and I thought she was incredible. The movie itself was almost a favorite, but George Clooney had to ruin that. And there are several more Clooney films I will need to see as well. Not only with his nominated performances, but any film with a nominated performance he is in, and Best Picture nominees. Joy. Also, Having recently seen Apollo 13, I find it very amusing that Ed Harris had a small role in Gravity.

The main reason I changed My Best Actress lists is because I had Bullock's performance in Gravity down at 90th, the worst place. Not sure what I was thinking that day, but luckily, she (and several others) are placed much higher.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke and Robert: Forgot to mention that Bullock is currently my winner for 2013. The only other lead is Kristen Bell in Frozen, who I loved.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: It might just be me, but I'm happy with anyone getting a 5, regardless of my opinion of it and Mulligan's my 3rd/4th favourite actress right now and have loved her since her one-off Episode 'Blink' in Doctor Who. :)

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke: Hope she becomes a favorite of mine as well. Sadly, it is hard for "modern actresses", or living ones for that matter, to become one of my favorites. Of those not from the Classic Era, Paige O'Hara, Jodi Benson, Helena Bonham Carter, Anne Hathaway, Marion Coltillard, Amy Adams (She is most likely to leave), and Ruthie Henshall (this explains my username) are the only ones in the Top 100. Mulligan seems to have a lot of potential to make it in there, but she first needs to make it in the Top 250. I still wonder how I found the time to do that.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: Woah! 250, congrats. It's hard enough to come up with a top 50, let alone a top 250. :)

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: You may know this already, but Cotillard's far and away my favourite actress right now.

Luke Higham said...

*Whoa

Anonymous said...

Louis: What do you suppose would have happened to Lon Chaney's career if he hadn't died in 1930? What roles could you see him in?

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Luke: She seems to have been like a Vivien Leigh (my favorite actress) here. She was a general unknown until she suddenly received immense (and very deserving) acclaim (La Vie en Rose). Like Leigh, it was a gamble, since neither were considered "Banakble". Anyways, I hope to love her in Inception, as well! That will be my second Cotillard movie.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: She's great there too. IMO. :)

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the Emmy Winners.

Luke Higham said...

For fuck's sake, Rylance lost.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I kind of figured that would happen.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

It's hard to say about the senior Chaney as his early death came before he firmly made the transition to a sound actor, he could have been lost in the shuffle as many were. I ponder if he would have continued on as a makeup artist if he stopped being a prominent actor.

Luke:

Haven't seen enough to have any real thoughts. As I don't think I've seen a single winner so far.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I never really pay much attention to the Emmys anyway. :(

Luke Higham said...

Louis: That's alright, though please, please, please watch Wolf Hall at some point, before or after watching Bridge Of Spies. :)

Anonymous said...

Can you repost Winters' rating for Alfie.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I'm in Louis's boat. Betting it all on Drama series for something or someone I've actually seen to win.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Please let it be Thrones, yet there's no chance of that happening. :(

Robert MacFarlane said...

Yeah, no. I want it to be Mad Men. I like this season of GoT less and less the more I think about it.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Even though it had it's weakest season. If not, please let it be Better Call Saul.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Or Mad Men. :)

Robert MacFarlane said...

It will be Mad Men, and quite frankly it should be. The last (half) season had the opposite effect of GoT, I like it more and more when I think about it.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I love that show too much, not to support it.

Robert MacFarlane said...

REALLY hoping Hamm gets it. He was too perfect in the last episode.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I'll be honest, I think he's the only choice, as much as I liked Odenkirk.

Robert MacFarlane said...

If Banks loses, we riot.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Some of the best acting I've seen this year and I will be pissed.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Finally a winner I have seen, and Thrones is rewarded for one of the sloppiest written episodes of the whole series.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Yeeeep, that's the Emmys for ya.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Promise me you'll watch Wolf Hall.

In regards to Thrones, I'm literally shocked, too many times, where that episode cut away from very climactic moments.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

I will.

Oh my they gave the directing award to that episode too.

Luke Higham said...

WTF, Never thought this would happen.

Louis Morgan said...

The real shame is that if it had been Miguel Sapochnik for Hardhome it would have been deserved.

Louis Morgan said...

I guess only the Emmys could give Dinklage the win for this season and not season 4 and ignore Jonathan Banks's great performance.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Completely agree, that last minute and a half alone deserved to win in my opinion.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: As much as I like Dinklage, It's a shame. Just wish Dillane were nominated.

Robert MacFarlane said...

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I feel your pain, mate. :(

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Does Robert not like GOT? I have never seen it, but it seems interesting.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Hmmm maybe they watched Hardhome(Dinklage's submission) saw that they should have given it the directing win, and that they should have nominated Kit Harington instead so they voted for Dinklage. Alright I gotta stop grasping at straws.

Luke Higham said...

Ruthiehenshallfan99: Doesn't like that particular season as much as he did earlier in the year. I thought it was very good, though not up to the standard of the past four seasons.

It's a brilliant show, though the latest season's divisive.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Harington's facial reaction is one of my favourite moments throughout its entire run.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I am utterly inconsolable over Jonathan Banks losing. Jon Hamm on the other hand, was extremely cathartic.

Louis Morgan said...

I'm with Robert on season 5 the more you look at it the more you see it was a whole slew of empty promises. I'll give it Jon Snow's story line and most of Cersei's. Arya's worked but was not especially dynamic. Stannis's and Sansa's had some great acting, but it was all build up without almost no payoff outside of Theon. Daenerys was par for in terms of her post season one stories, and Dorne was pretty terrible outside of Bronn and Prince Doran.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: That's basically how I feel.

We still had 'Hardhome', which is something, I guess.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: Sorry, I jinxed it.

Louis: I'm still somewhat happy though, just wish it was for Seasons 3 or 4.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Let's just say it was all for Hardhome. That at least was one of the best episodes of the series.

Luke Higham said...

Breaking Bad was completely deserving for those years anyway.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: :)

Robert MacFarlane said...

Can't say anymore, having a nervous breakdown right now. I'll get back to you all when I mold an Emmy out of my own tears for Jonathan Banks.

Louis Morgan said...

Completely in simpatico with you Robert. They had a chance to reward a great performance, and said naaaah we'll go with Dinklage acting drunk.

Luke Higham said...

Robert: I'll be doing the same for Mark Rylance. :(

Louis Morgan said...

Alright and in celebration for its "deserving" victory:

Game of Thrones as an 1980's series:

Robert Baratheon: Brian Blessed
Stannis Baratheon: David Warner
Renly Baratheon: Kenneth Branagh
Tyrion Lannister: David Rappaport
Cersei Lannister: Lindsay Duncan
Jaime Lannister: Jeremy Irons
Tywin Lannister: Peter O'Toole

Daenerys Targaryen: Nastassja Kinski
Jorah Mormont: Nicol Williamson
Jeor Mormont: Michael Hordern
Sandor Clegane: Liam Neeson
The Mountain: Richard Kiel
Little Finger: John Hurt
Varys: Ian Holm

Catelyn Stark: Vanessa Redgrave
Ned Stark: Richard Harris
Robb Stark: Daniel Day-Lewis
Jon Snow: Sean Bean
Bran Stark: Hugh O'Conor
Theon Greyjoy: Gary Oldman
Ser Rodrick: Ray McAnally

Davos Seaworth: Bernard Hill
Melisandre: Isabelle Huppert
Bronn: Oliver Reed
Grand Maester Pycell: John Gielgud
Maester Aemon: Laurence Olivier
Maester Luwin: James Mason
Barristan Selmy: Dirk Bogarde
Brienne: Janet McTeer

Oberyn Martell: Raul Julia
3-eyed Raven: Alec Guinness
Roose Bolton: Ian McShane
Olenna Tyrell: Wendy Hiller
Margaery Tyrell: Emma Thompson
High Sparrow: Cyril Cusack

Luke Higham said...

Louis: That's one hell of a cast. :)

Anyway, Goodnight.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Isabelle Huppert could honestly still play Melisandre. She's still looking good for her age.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: One more thing, before I go, who would you cast as Walder Frey and Balon Greyjoy.

Louis Morgan said...

Alright uhhh think think think.....

Walder Frey: Trevor Howard
Balon Greyjoy: Dirk Bogarde

Robert MacFarlane said...

You listed Dick Bogarde as Selmy.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I'm still up, but why not give Paul Scofield a role.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Ahh shoot....alright yeah Scofield would be a great fit actually.

Michael McCarthy said...

Hodor: Andre the Giant

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

And Louis your thoughts...

Scarlet Johanson- Lost In Translation, Match Point (Your thoughts on the films as well would be appreciated).

Louis Morgan said...

Michael:

Perfect.

John Smith:

Johansson - Lost in Translation - 2.5(The whole film itself does very little for me. I try not to use boring too often when describing a film I dislike, but that's the case with the film for me. I've tried to watch it multiple times, and it always falls into a series of mostly arbitrary scenes with just a few more stable moments that are either out of place over the top comedy or a sad conversation. Bill Murray was able to get slightly above it just due to his natural charm, but that was not the case for Johansson who I don't feel has any natural charm. Not that I feel she's actively bad, but just falls into the films existence.)

Haven't seen Match Point.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Sorry for saying this again, but what is your rating for Shelley Winters in Alfie?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: She's a 3.5.

Anonymous said...

Louis I am not sure if someone else asked you this before, but if they have could Luke possibly find this question and if it wasnt asked before could I ask.....you know Gone with the Wind, you said it was a very strong film but with a few problems, what were those few problems?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I don't remember that question being asked before and I have a really good memory.

ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Hey, everyone. Just a few questions. Has anyone seen We Are Your Friends? I almost forgot about it myself, since I don't think many people saw it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Maybe it's length?

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Seen Anything New.

Michael McCarthy said...

Hey I know that it's off-topic, but since this story's just breaking now and most of you don't know what I look like, I just want to make it clear that I am NOT the Michael McCarthy that just murdered a 2 year old girl and worships demons.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: I wouldn't have thought so. :) Everyone's sensible here. :)

RatedRStar said...

Michael: I am a secret undercover operative sent to hijack Monk Morgan Enterprises and we have finally found you after all this time =D hehe lol

RatedRStar said...

Anyway, I really cant think of any problems really with Gone with the Wind, I I actually did see The Rains Came just to see if its special effects were better than Gone With The Winds Atlanta sequence.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Macbeth got a 5 star review from Empire and it's Fassbender's first. 12 Years A Slave only got 4 stars. :)

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=138584

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Dat awesome =)

Anonymous said...

Heres a question for you all that I am curious about now that GWTW was mentioned, out of all the best Special effects winners, which would you say was the worst winner with special effects that weren't that good even by the standards that there was???

Luke Higham said...

I'll predict ratings for the Macbeth cast.
Fassbender - 5
Cotillard - 5
Harris - 4/4.5
Considine - 3.5/4
Debicki - 3.5
Thewlis - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous:
Post-80s, I'd go with:
Death Becomes Her
What Dreams May Come
and The Golden Compass

RatedRStar said...

What Dreams May Come is like so fake lol even as a child when I saw it I thought it looked like shit lol.

As for classic films I have seen I actually think pretty much all of them were really good lol.

Thunderball would probably be my least favorite special effects winner from the classic era because, underwater sequences were not new at all lol as 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea had really good ones heck even Crash Dive had one, and the jet pack scene and the final boat chase scene just look like obvious green screen lol.

RatedRStar said...

I think old special effects work if they have a nice coolness to them lol like The Thief of Baghdad and The Time Machine being good examples lol.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I know you were looking forward to The Program, but have you lost any faith/interest, in regards to Ben Foster's performance.

RatedRStar said...

Well I am not expecting the film to be too good now, probably a rather safe retelling but I still feel very interested to see Foster =D.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I'm Glad to hear it. :)

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I think Gone With The Wind is a great film, but as Calvin stated in his reaction its not quite flawless. Of course there is the of the time elements, which frankly could have been worse. Hattie McDaniel for example makes Mammy feel like a character not just a stereotype. That's not the case for Prissy though who is a sore spot in the almost spotless first half. The second half as well, although still quite good, I do think somewhat lags in comparison, where I've always felt the first half flies by.