Thursday, 8 August 2024

Alternate Best Actor 1977: Bruno S. in Stroszek

Bruno S. did not receive an Oscar nomination for portraying Bruno Stroszek in Stroszek. 

Stroszek follows an idiosyncratic German musician who moves to America. 

Stroszek is the second of two films directed by Werner Herzog to feature Bruno S., after playing the peculiar man who had a natural musical ability who had gone through many years of a strange imprisonment in The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, this film too follows a man we see released from prison, who is a musician, although now during the modern era. In both instances of Herzog's use of Bruno S., there is a clear specificity of the choice as an alternative to Klaus Kinski, as there's a certain innocence to Bruno S. as opposed to the spawn of Satan's innate presence of Kinski. But I think in both instances this goes beyond that choice, as the fact that he plays a character nearly with his own name I would say is no coincidence. If one were to read about Bruno S.'s life, which is rather heartbreaking, where he was abused as a child, apparently tortured by Nazis, and spent time also imprisoned in mental institutions, the casting of Bruno S. in both instances has a certain autobiographical quality. Although I wouldn't say he is being cast as "himself" in both instances, as there is a progression within his character in Hauser that certainly is performed, the certain particular way Bruno S. interacts with the world, supported also by an interview I watched of him, is very much his personal thing. I won't make any diagnosis of S., but I think it is safe to say he takes in and reacts to stimuli differently from the average person. What Herzog seems to be doing, especially in this film, is merely presenting this unique man to us through the theoretical character of Stroszek. And I should note, I don't think this is a case of someone "not acting", as obviously what Stroszek is going through is not what Bruno S. is going through, these are fictional scenarios, but nonetheless what we do get is the reaction of this man that is very much his own if filtered through performance. 

And we see this man going about his life of leaving prison, to find himself in a world accosted by local thugs, while being friendly towards a local prostitute. S. doesn't react to any of this as a man with hardship, even when they are torturing him, but rather just a man kind of taking it in, in his own particular way, that is very much his way. This is one of those instances where it is hard to say what Bruno S. has, but he has *it* in that there is just something innately captivating about Bruno S., even if to say exactly why, isn't the easiest. He moves to America even and even then, Bruno S. looks at every sight his own way, every interaction his own way, later when things start not going his way for his small group, including the prostitute, there is frustration in the words he speaks, however even that is Bruno S.'s own way about himself. He never exactly states anything to anyone, it is this internalized sort of spoken way. Even as things go wrong, such as that prostitute running off with a trucker, his other companion getting arrested, his house getting taken away, being lost in America, Bruno S. presents Stroszek as just going through these landscapes, these moments as his man does, as he does, which is as he is, in this way that only he can be. I mean there truly should be nothing to a man riding an amusement park ride by himself while seeming to be lost, but just the particular expression that Bruno S. is making as he goes around and around is oddly fascinating, in just being so much himself that it is hard not to look at what he is doing. The sequences that are contrasting the rest of his work are when he plays music, and if one thing I wholeheartedly wish was there had been more scenes of Stroszek playing music and singing. One segment in particular where he takes the street to perform, simply seeming to do so, Bruno S. is absolutely captivating and suddenly he communicates in such a universal way it is kind of beautiful. This is not your traditional performance, or film, yet just like the film, Bruno S. delivers performance here that does captivate, even if the *how* may remain a bit enigmatic. 

71 comments:

A said...

Well, that was quick.

Thoughts on the rest of the cast?

RujK said...

What are your top 10 performances from the Fargo TV show and from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul universe?

Anonymous said...

RujK: Breaking Bad/BCS can be found here...

https://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2022/09/alternate-best-supporting-actor-1981_27.html

Luke Higham said...

I think Ganz, Gielgud or both are getting write-ups after the quickness of this review.

Michael Patison said...

Thoughts and ratings for Looking for Mr. Goodbar cast

Shaggy Rogers said...

Hey guys!
It was hard to find some of the films, but I managed to watch them. So, tell us your rankings of the 1977 nominees in each category:

Song
1. "Nobody Does It Better" - The Spy Who Loved Me
2. "Someone's Waiting for You" - The Rescuers
3. "Candle on the Water" - Pete's Dragon
4. "The Slipper and the Rose Waltz (He Danced with Me/She Danced with Me)" - The Slipper and the Rose: The Story of Cinderella
5. "You Light Up My Life" from You Light Up My Life

Score (Adapted)
1. Pete's Dragon
2. The Slipper and the Rose: The Story of Cinderella
3. A Little Night Music

Original Score
1. Star Wars
2. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
3. The Spy Who Loved Me
4. Julia
5. Mohammad, Messenger of God

Sound Mixing
1. Star Wars
2. Sorcerer
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
4. The Deep
5. The Turning Point

Editing
1. Star Wars
2. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
3. Smokey and the Bandit
4. Julia
5. The Turning Point

Special Visual Effects
1. Star Wars
2. Close Encounters of the Third Kind

Costume
1. Star Wars
2. The Other Side of Midnight
3. Julia
4. A Little Night Music
5. Airport '77

Production Design
1. Star Wars
2. The Spy Who Loved Me
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
4. Airport '77
5. The Turning Point

Cinematography
1. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
2. Islands in the Stream
3. Julia
4. Looking For Mr. Goodbar
5. The Turning Point

International Feature Film
1. A Special Day (Italy)
2. Iphigenia (Greece)
3. That Obscure Object of Desire (Spain)
4. Madame Rosa (France)
5. Operation Thunderbolt (Israel)

Adapted Screenplay
1. That Obscure Object of Desire
2. Equus
3. Oh, God!
4. Julia
5. I Never Promised You a Rose Garden

Original Screenplay
1. Annie Hall
2. The Goodbye Girl
3. The Late Show
4. Star Wars
5. The Turning Point

Supporting Actress
1. Vanessa Redgrave
2. Melinda Dillon
3. Tuesday Weld
4. Quinn Cummings
5. Leslie Browne

Supporting Actor
1. Alec Guinness
2. Peter Firth
3. Jason Robards
4. Maximilian Schell
5. Mikhail Baryshnikov

Lead Actress
1. Diane Keaton
2. Marsha Mason
3. Jane Fonda
4. Anne Bancroft
5. Shirley MacLaine

Lead Actor
1. John Travolta
2. Marcello Mastroianni
3. Richard Dreyfuss
4. Richard Burton
5. Woody Allen

Director
1. Steven Spielberg
2. George Lucas
3. Woody Allen
4. Fred Zinnemann
5. Herbert Ross

Picture
1. Star Wars
2. Annie Hall
3. The Goodbye Girl
4. Julia
5. The Turning Point

Tony Kim said...

Michael, he doesn't give thoughts on the performances in additional films he's watching until after the results, I'm afraid.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: When I first saw Looking for Mr. Goodbar about 8 years ago, I remember at first not caring for the film that much...until the ending, it genuinely terrified me, the thing that caught me off guard most was kinda...how real it felt, like the flashing lights and imagery, almost like that would actually happen if you were the victim.

Louis Morgan said...

A:

Mattes - 3.5(Her performance is also curious, though the most seasoned performer it seems, as the character is just kind of going with whatever. And what she successfully brings forth is this sort of blithe manner of someone looking for something, who doesn't quite find it and never really connects beyond a certain point. Her performance works by not having chemistry really with S., as that's not the point in fact the lack of chemistry seems the point instead. So unusual expectation for her, but what she does do, works.)

Everyone else is fine, in their limited bits.

RatedRStar:

The ending is genuinely horrifying, by how sudden it is and just how brutal it becomes. And I do think because it is happening to Diane Keaton, who so often plays happy go lucky characters, seeing it happen to her makes it that much more unsettling.

Tony Kim said...

Louis, thoughts on The Simpsons' Two Bad Neighbors and The Twilight Zone's He's Alive?

RujK said...

Thank you

8000S said...

Louis: Regarding unknown gems from Japanese cinema, there's one from 1956 that sounds promising. It's about an all-woman prison, with an all-star cast. Setsuko Hara plays the manager while Kinuyo Tanaka is the head of the prison. Kyoko Kagawa, Michiyo Kogure, Yoshiko Kuga, Mariko Okada, Noriko Sengoku, Noriko Honma and Keiko Awaji all play prisoners.

Thoughts?

RatedRStar said...

Louis: So I also saw Airport 77... ummm I did unfortunately laugh at Christopher Lees... I am an accomplished swimmer..." gets hit in the face by the door... dies instantly than floats awkwardly lol.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: I did like Suspiria as well although.. I do like the underrated Deep Red more simply because it is a whodunnit with a good twist...btw Louis... did you figure out the twist of Deep Red? the mirrors at the start of the film with the killer hiding in front of them?

Louis Morgan said...

Tony:

Two Bad Neighbors is hilarious by being truly apolitical and instead just playing it straight as Dennis the Menace, but George Bush is Mr. Wilson, playing that straight in his stiffness versus Bart's mischief that pulls Homer in. I especially love Bush's attempt at his sign of two bad neighbors. And the ending is doubly perfect, first with Gorbachev accidentally creating the peace agreement, then Gerald Ford just being Homer's ideal friend is a perfect punchline.

He's Alive is one of the few hour long episodes that earns its length, as many feel stretched out half hour episodes, this one feels like a condensed film. And while the twist is obvious, I really don't think that's at all the point, the point is rather to detail the process of how one grows his power utilizing hate and manipulating the masses. The length granting the detail in the steps of Hopper's character gaining sway as coached by the ghost, while also granting detail to the pathetic man's life that inspired him to do this, and his honest father figure whose honest words of history show the fool his "son" is. Hopper delivering one of the best performances from the series, and Serling's monologue, which sadly is still relevant, is especially powerful against the haunting image of shadow of the continuing evil moving on from his failed student to look for another.

8000's:

Sounds intriguing to be sure.

RatedRStar:

Yes Lee's bit was pretty funny.

Deep Red is definitely a better film when it comes to storytelling and is the best I've seen from Argento as a complete package, though I'd say Suspiria is his apex when it comes to aesthetic.

Yes, I believe I did if I recall correctly. Still a nifty twist.

Lucas Saavedra said...

Louis: your thoughts on the trailer for Saturday Night?

A said...

Louis: Thoughts on Vincent Gallo's direction of Buffalo '66?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Which sports and teams do you follow?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Justin Kirk's performance in Succession?

Tony Kim said...

Louis: What do you think of the recently announced Broadway cast for Glengarry Glen Ross? And if you've read the play, do you have a preference between it and the film?

Luke: Since you asked Louis about it, would it be safe to assume that you've read The Wager?

Luke Higham said...

Tony: Actually haven't but the subject matter interests me a ton.

Matt Mustin said...

I've read The Wager it's amazing. It would make an excellent movie it's already very cinematic as written.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: If Robert Eggers made a French Revolution film and Robespierre was the central character, who would be your casting choice. I'd pick Robert Pattinson if I was going with his alumni.

Tony Kim said...

Matt: Who would you cast as Cheap, and if Scorsese indeed ends up dropping out, which director would you like to see helming it?

Matt Mustin said...

Tony: Probably James McAvoy. Whoever gets that role though will be a serious Oscar contender, so watch out for that. I would second Eggers for director but I could also see Ridley Scott doing a good job with it. I saw someone make a strong case for Nolan. The ultimate though would be Peter Weir coming out of retirement for one last epic.

houndtang said...

Random question - but how many reviews have you written now for this blog? It's a really impressive resource at this point.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

houndtang: Having done the math kind of quickly, the lower estimate for the number of reviews Louis has written is around 2,960 (assuming every official and alternate year has a line-up and separate results post, which isn't always the case). This also doesn't take into account the fact that he often reviews multiple performances in the same post. Crazy testament to Louis's longevity really.

Anonymous said...

Hey Louis, and everyone, feelings on Joaquin Phoenix pulling out of a film that HE started?

J96 said...

Louis, your top 10 BEST and top 10 WORST Oscar winners for best cinematography? And for each 10 worst, what film should have won instead in your opinion?

Louis Morgan said...


Lucas:


I loved just about everything about it, except the creative team behind it, but hey maybe this will be Reitman's The Holdovers for me, it already is rocking its own 70's aesthetic nicely. As I was concerned it was going to be a phony love letter to Saturday Night Love, and it appears to be much more than that (if maybe no love letter at all), so the Uncut Gems pressure cooker vibe of the trailer looks most promising. As does the cast, glad to see more of LaBelle and Hoffman after their impressive debuts, always good to see Sennott, and Cory Michael Smith doing pompous Chevy Chase looks most promising. The only person featured heavily in the trailer who has me a little concerned is Nicholas Braun as both Andy Kaufman and Jim Henson, given his Jim Henson still seemed fairly Cousin Gregish to me, so I hope we won't have that twice....and I say that as a massive Cousin Greg comedy fan.


A:


Gallo's direction is basically just one big swing after another in his wild visual choices, his way of making sudden switches of style in scenes from some very gradual and intimate, to some with wild cutaways, to sudden extreme stylistic slow mo with crazy gore effects...and this was an instance were every wild swing basically works for me...though it is also easy to understand that apparently that was not the case for his later directorial work, because you could easily see it go off the rails. Gallo though manages to hold it together in this tapestry of noise and beauty, rather personified I think by the two central characters of the Gallo himself contrasted by Ricci, but also just having Gazzara be just this brute, then beautifully serenade a song with the gorgeous lighting change to accentuate this sort of transportation towards the dreamlike fantasy. His song choices all just work, as again maybe they all shouldn't but it just each accentuates the other. And just the way he can go from his confrontation scene that is so stylistic yet totally works as such in playing out as the most extreme, to the bakery scene that follows that is so quietly done and wholly works in being this warm finale. And maybe it is that balance that just is enough to make it all work, because as hostile as his work is at times, there is a heart within it that anchors it to connect it all.


Tahmeed:


Kirk's performance I wasn't quite sure about in his first episode as just one of the many politicians as his work didn't stand out that much to me, though I thought he was totally fine. In his followup performances I thought he was quite effective in bringing a more overt confidence and charisma of the man seeing the power all in his grasp, with just the right degree of a sinister edge without overplaying it. Having the right kind of ease about his performance of someone who doesn't quite need to play the same game anymore as the Roys, and rises above them now in a way that works well. To the point I wonder if his first episode performance might play more interestingly if I were to re-watch it.

Louis Morgan said...



Anonymous:


The Nye Mets are my favorite squadron.


Seriously though, I tend to catch up with sports 20 years after the fact.


Tony:


Odenkirk as Levene makes a lot of sense as Saul certainly has more than a few shades of the character to begin with. Burr makes a lot of sense for Moss as the perpetually angry guy who blames everyone else, and his performance in the second season of the Mandolorian and The King of Staten Island suggested he might have a bit more in the tank than one might've guessed. I'll say Kieran Culkin definitely doesn't read as a Roma, personally I'd cast him as Williamson more immediately, but maybe he could pull it off from a different angle.


I mean I like the addition of Blake, and I prefer Roma being genuine in his admiration for Levene rather than being in collusion with Williamson. So in that sense I prefer the film.


Luke:


I'll support Pattinson.


Anonymous:


Disappointing to hear, particularly since it sounds like he apparently pushed Haynes towards the more explicit narrative that ended up giving him pause.


J96:


Best:


1. Barry Lyndon
2. Blade Runner 2049
3. Days of Heaven
4. Lawrence of Arabia
5. There Will Be Blood
6. The Third Man
7. Apocalypse Now
8. Road to Perdition
9. Black Narcissus
10. Birdman

Worst:

1. Avatar (Inglourious Basterds)
2. Slumdog Millionaire (The Dark Knight)
3. The Towering Inferno (Chinatown)
4. Gigi (The Old Man and the Sea, though a weak set of nominees)
5. My Fair Lady (Mary Poppins, same)
6. Three Coins in a Fountain (Rear Window)
7. Joan of Arc (Haven't seen the other nominees, but I will never know how the Red Shoes wasn't nominated)
8. Ship of Fools (A Patch of Blue)
9. A Farewell to Arms (The Sign of the Cross)
10. Wilson (Meet Me in St. Louis)

Although the bottom few I wouldn't really consider even "bad".

J96 said...

I forgot to mention, for each of your worst, and your choice of which nominee should have won instead, like "The Red Shoes" here, do you also have a list of film's for each of these years that should have been nominated and/or won?

And how would you apply this to your VFX rankings?

Tony Kim said...

Louis, if you don't mind, could you update your ranking of the '98 Oscar nominees for Best Actor?

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: Thoughts on the screenplays of Annie Hall, Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Sorcerer.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Thoughts on Matuschek finding out the truth from The Shop Around the Corner? That scene and the ending alone is why Morgan is a 5 for me.

Bryan L. said...

Louis: In hindsight, would it have made more sense to cast a difference actor than Joaquin Phoenix to play the Joker? I know the first film is already flawed to begin with, but Phoenix had already played several unhinged characters before, so it really isn’t surprising when he “becomes” the Joker. It just comes off as a “Greatest Hits” package of Joaquin’s crazier roles, though again, that’s also on the film. Maybe it could’ve worked a little better with a more “Average Joe” actor?

Matt Mustin said...

Bryan: Probably but also there's like nothing to that character.

Mitchell Murray said...

Bryan: Phoenix's casting itself was a major promotional tool for the film. Even many of us here were excited at the time to see what he'd do as the character. But your right...in hindsight, it was a rather unsurprising performance, in that no one really doubted Phoenix could play those kinds of notes. Part of why Ledger is so legendary - beyond his work itself being so striking - is that so many people didn't know he had that performance in him.

My takeway, I guess, is casting an unknown or casting against type is better for the Joker.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on Daniel Shulman's work in The Secret in Their Eyes?

Tony Kim said...

Jonathan, could you do me a favour and ask that again after he rewatches them later on? I'd like to see him discuss the films with his memories of them fresher in his mind.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Thoughts on the trailer for Woman of the Hour?

Mitchell Murray said...

It's only a few hours old, but has anyone had the chance to watch GQ's interview with JK Simmons?

I'll just say that in addition to his two most iconic roles - JJJ and Terence Fletcher - I'm glad they also took the time to cover Simmons' voice work from Bojack Horseman, Legend of Korra and of course Invincible.

Matt Mustin said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

Louis Morgan said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

RatedRStar said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

J96 said...

Rest In Peace Gena Rowlands.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

My should've been nominated would theoretically just be my cinematography nominees, linked to the right.

And you'll have to clarify your VFX request.

Jonathan:

I will be trying to re-watch a few of those, but also please only ask for one such request per post.

Tahmeed:

A moving scene by just how gentle the whole scene is really and the modest of Morgan's performance makes it particularly affecting because you get so much of his sorrow, his shame, but also his genuine care for Stewart's character as he tries to right things.

Bryan:

Theoretically yes, as it is a Shining situation where already obviously unhinged guy gets more unhinged, but I don't think it would've made a major difference.

8000's:

What did he do for the film?

Anonymous:

The serial killer on the dating game was one of those stories which I always thought "How is that not a film", so interested to see it finally done so, and Kendrick for her debut seems to not at all avoiding the intensity of the story, with being more brutal looking than I might've thought, when I first heard about thought it would focus more on Bradshaw than Alcala. Given the early reception also said it delivers, I'm certainly looking forward to this one based on the look of this.

A said...

R.I.P. Gena Rowlands.

Razor said...

RIP Gena Rowlands.

Luke Higham said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

8000S said...

Louis: Sorry, meant to say Felix Monti, as he was the one who shot The Secret in their Eyes, not Shulman, who shot Campanella's previous films.

J96 said...

How do you rank your Top 10 best and Top 10 Worst VFX winners and with the worst, who do you think should have won instead?

Tony Kim said...

RIP Gena Rowlands.

Ytrewq Wertyq said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

Calvin Law said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

Louis: is Dìdi going to be expanding to your area this week? Would be interested in getting your thoughts on it, and Daughters, which just dropped on Netflix.

Shaggy Rogers said...

RIP Gena Rowlands

There goes the last member of John Cassavetes and Co.
Do you know what made me sadder about her death? Almost every news outlet associated her with The Notebook. The movie is just ok and Rowlands has a good role, but the level of laziness is impressive, they didn't even mention her two Oscar nominations. It would be the same thing if they did with Mifune, ignoring all his great performances and only mentioning his appearances in Grand Prix or 1941.

Tim said...

R.I.P. Gena Rowlands

8000S said...

R.I.P. Gena Rowlands

Jonathan Williams said...

Louis: What did you think of the Mufasa and Snow White trailers.

Louis Morgan said...

8000's:

The overall lighting choice I think is an effective one that has this kind of aged quality to that subconsciously suggests memory which is fitting to the film that is all about memories. The film otherwise has some standout framing and composition of shots particularly the train scene in terms of something grandiose that has the sweeping quality, or efficient storytelling moments like the killer checking his gun invading the space and threatening our protagonists purely silently, and off course the stadium shot which is one that goes for the big in the best of ways.

Calvin:

Not yet, but don't worry Ryan's World the Movie, Titan Universe Adventure is easily accessible.

Seriously though I thankfully will in all likelihood be able to see it later in the week next week.

Jonathan:

Snow White looks insanely pointless, and the dwarves just look bizarre...perhaps even CGI'd over some idea they backtracked on. Something that might be the entire film.

Mufasa...I hope allows Barry Jenkins to make some great non-corporate efforts, as if anyone can see his voice in that film...I normally wouldn't say this but...don't lie. I hate just how flat it looks, and so weird that both this film and the remake credited great cinematographers then proceeded to deliver such lifeless looking product. And I guess this is at least a new story but....eh was not crazy about anything in it.

Louis Morgan said...

J96:

Best:

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2,3,4: LOTR Trilogy
5. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
6. Jurassic Park
7. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
8. The Empire Strikes Back
9. Star Wars
10. Aliens

There's so many great winners though.

I'd actually say the academy is pretty good at choosing VFX winners, and really can't make a list of "worst". For example if something like Forrest Gump, I still think is mostly good work, even if Zelig did it better first and the specific talking trick looks bad...but even then its competition isn't without flaws either. Cleopatra is another, where the Birds is a better choice, but it's not truly "worst" work by any means.

Matt Mustin said...

Louis: Any interest in Alien Romulus at all?

Tony Kim said...

Louis, what do you think of this recent David Lynch profile? (You may want to zoom in a bit or open the images in new tabs.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/davidlynch/comments/1ekknkg/davids_full_interview/

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Thoughts on these South Park episodes?

Chef Goes Nanners
Fun with Veal (always loved the Dog Day Afternoon bit)

Perfectionist said...

Louis: Out of curiosity, may I ask, what is your nationality?

Matt Mustin said...

I thought Trap was largely great, and contrary to most I thought the third act was actually the best part. Josh Hartnett's best ever performance.

Hartnett-4.5
Donoghue-2.5
Shyamalan-3
Pill-3
Mills-3
Langdon-3
McPhail-2

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Your ranked top 15 movies of the 1990s?

8000S said...

Perfectionist: Pretty sure he's American.

Tony Kim said...

Louis: Since I believe they technically qualify as original songs, what are your thoughts on Prince's Purple Rain and When Doves Cry?

Louis Morgan said...

Matt:

I'm cool with waiting to see it later, but I might get pulled into seeing it early.

Tony:

It's unfortunate to hear that Lynch has emphesyma of course, though he seemed to perhaps later backtrack the interview a bit anyways, though I personally wasn't expecting him to do too much more from him filmwise anyways...though I do hold out hope he'll produce some larger scale project even if it is an animated movie. Otherwise the profile is of course just focusing on the idiosyncratic manner of Lynch and it is abudantly obvious watching his films that he has such a strict focus on sound, while of course focusing on his jovial one of a kind manner even when discussing the most random of ethereal things. It's pure Lynch that talking politics makes him miserable but talking about death gives him hope.

Tahmeed:

Chef Goes Nanners - (Actually surprisingly non-cynical episode that has actually a bit more nuance than "everybody's dumb" in exploring the argument between Chef and Jimbo, and how the kids play into it to the debate. And looking back while one can disagree with their conclusions, at the time they did seem to put a bit more thought into aspects of it than some of their later commentaries on controversial issues, despite Parker and Stone both claiming otherwise. The side-plot then of Wendy and Cartman is just very funny, particularly Stan's frozen reaction in the climax.)

Fun With Veal - (Great episode in one of just insane extremes the episode goes through and having fun with every bit of the hostage situation especially calling in Mr. Worf as part of the deal, which I love the backstory more than the real Dorn wanted to voice himself.)

1. The Thin Red Line
2. Goodfellas
3. L.A. Confidential
4. Unforgiven
5. The Shawshank Redemption
6. Barton Fink
7. JFK
8. Schindler's List
9. Fargo
10. Boogie Nights
11. Magnolia
12. Ed Wood
13. Pulp Fiction
14. Jackie Brown
15. Braveheart

Tony:

I'll admit I too only recently found out that they were original songs for the film, and will have to update the song win at some point.

As Purple Rain I do think is fantastic, building up the rich instrumentation that is all one big swing from the length of it, to the electronic use of it, to just how it very much goes for it in every choice and does so wonderfully. That with though the lyrics that aren't exactly your traditional melodic lyrics even as it is mostly just saying purple rain when he's fully singing, against sort of the rambling distress about his choices, and if it wasn't just this atypical blend that just is outstanding it wouldn't work, however it completely does and is just a beautiful epic lover's lament.

When Doves Cry is as ambitious with its choices, and I wouldn't say I am as in love with every choice in this instance, as some of the higher pitched instrumentation moments and some of the random voices are not quite my tempo in the same way. Having said that, the main thrust this time being the syncopation that builds with the far more melodic lyrics this time sung with an invigorating approach to the repeated titular lyric. And though I don't love every eccentricity in this one, I certainly still like it plenty.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I think this would be my top 15 of the 90's:

1. The Piano
2. The Thin Red Line
3. Ed Wood
4. Before Sunrise
5. L.A. Confidential
6. Goodfellas
7. Beauty and the Beast
8. The Big Lebowski
9. Miller's Crossing
10. Fargo
11. Schindler's List
12. Batman Returns
13. The Shawshank Redemption
14. The Iron Giant
15. The Nightmare Before Christmas

Fuck it, I'll throw in 5 more for a top 20.

16. The Silence of the Lambs
17. Fight Club
18. Toy Story
19. JFK
20. Run Lola Run