Monday, 5 June 2017

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1968

And the Nominees Were Not:

Ian Holm in Bofors Gun

Trevor Howard in The Charge of the Light Brigade

Tony Curtis in The Boston Strangler

Tom Courtenay in A Dandy In Aspic 

Klaus Kinski in The Great Silence

67 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Holm
5. Kinski

Charles Heiston said...

I really like Kinski and Courtenay from this line.

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Kinski
5. Holm

Luke Higham said...

The only reason I have Kinski at the bottom, is that Louis said Trintignant was a bit overshadowed by him.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Ratings and thoughts on Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby, Telly Savalas in The Scalphunters, Gert Frobe and Lionel Jeffries in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the cast of The Shoes Of The Fisherman, Patrick Magee in The Birthday Party and the cast of Hang 'Em High.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And the supporting cast of Rosemary's Baby.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Howard
2. Kinski
3. Courtenay
4. Curtis
5. Holm

Calvin Law said...

1. Curtis
2. Howard
3. Courtenay
4. Holm
5. Kinski

Charles Heiston said...

Louis: Your top 10 Daniel Day Lewis Performances

Giuseppe Fadda said...

What are your ratings and thoughts on Delphine Seyrig in Stolen Kisses (I thought she was wonderful) and Estelle Parsons in Rachel, Rachel?

Giuseppe Fadda said...

Also, why is The Night of the Following Day a 1968 film? I looked on iMDB and I haven't found a release date prior to 1969 for that movie.

Maciej said...

1.Kinski
2.Holm
3.Courtenay
4.Howard
5.Curtis

omar said...

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Kinski
5. Holm

What's your rating for Carlin? I remember she was a 5 but now i see she's lowe than Ullman in Shame which is a 4,5.
Also what Are your ratings and thoughts on Dorothy Gulliver in Faces and Kate Harrington in Rachel, Rachel?

RatedRStar said...

Excellent the exact lineup I asked for =D.

1. Howard
2. Kinski
3. Courtenay
4. Curtis
5. Holm

Kinski will not finish last I just dont see it.

RatedRStar said...

Actually ill change then slightly.

1. Howard
2. Courtenay
3. Curtis
4. Kinski
5. Holm

Scott Gingold said...

Louis, why did Henry Fonda dissappear from the overall lead lineup? Are you moving him over to supporting?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Kinski
5. Holm

Luke Higham said...

Omar: You probably misread Ullmann's rating. She's a 5 for Shame and a 4.5 for Hour Of The Wolf.

Scott: Fonda's Supporting.

Louis & Giuseppe: My bad, it was 1968 on Letterboxd, but it is a 69 release.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could you watch Isadora and The Immortal Story (Welles) during Supporting.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: top 10 Andrew Garfield acting moments?

Calvin Law said...

And also, your top 10 favourite character laughs in film.

94dfk1 said...

Calvin: I'll give mine, though I haven't seen him in Boy A, which I heard he's very good in.

Arguing with Ferreira in the temple- Silence

Watching Garrupe die- Silence

Kichijiros confession at the end- Silence

Justifying why he should go to war in court- Hacksaw Ridge

Confessing to the homeowner- 99 Homes

One-on-one with The Inquisitor- Silence

Confronting Mark Zuckerberg- The Social Network

Praying for the strength to save more soldiers- Hacksaw Ridge

Any of his scenes where he flirts with Gwen in the first Amazing Spider-Man

Watching the Japanese Christians die on the cross- Silence


Luke Higham said...

Boy A is his best work Pre-99 Homes.

Calvin Law said...

94dfk1: Mine probably fall in line with yours exactly, though I might also add in his breakdown scene in Never Let Me Go, which I probably liked more than most on the blog.

Calvin Law said...

Also Louis, your thoughts on Corey Stoll as an actor?

I'm watching House of Cards properly now (starting late) and more removed from the television series, his performance and Spacey's is really starting to get me hooked.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I finished watching The Swimmer, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but Lancaster has overtaken O'Toole's work as my favorite of the year.

JackiBoyz said...

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Kinski
5. Holm

94dfk1 said...

Calvin: That scene you mentioned JUST missed out on making my list and I thought about including it but I'm a huge fan of Emma Stone and I really do like their scenes together in TAS haha.

Luke: Definitely going to check that one out, and I'll update my Top moments of Garfields afterwards.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: is Boy A a theatrical or television release?

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Have you seen Easy A? Prior to Birdman and La La Land, I considered it Emma Stone's best performance. While the film itself isn't exactly amazing, I still hold Stone's work in pretty high regard.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: It's first Non-Festival showing was on British Television, so Garfield's not eligible I'm afraid.

Charles Heiston said...

Tahmeed: I quite like her in Easy A.

Luke Higham said...

What's not to like about Emma Stone, I can't remember her giving a below-decent performance.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Stone's my 2010 Best Actress win for Easy A.

Luke Higham said...

Looking forward to Battle Of The Sexes.

Anonymous said...

Luke: What about Southcliffe and Bloody Sunday?

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Southcliffe is a mini-series and Bloody Sunday is in the same situation as Boy A.

mcofra7 said...

Louis: Do you consider Who's that Knocking at My Door to be 1967 or 1968? It was released in 1967 in Chicago, but had a general release of 1968.

Luke Higham said...

Mcofra7: That was a festival release in '67. I think it is '68, though it says on Wikipedia that it's theatrical release was two years after it was first shown in Chicago.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: When will Arkin's edited review be up.

Anonymous said...

1. Howard
2. Curtis
3. Courtenay
4. Holm
5. Kinski

Charles Heiston said...

By the way, to anyone who's interested i made this little blog listing some of my winners for acting and what not.

http://bestfilmchoices.blogspot.com/2017/06/1928-passion-of-joan-of-arc-best-actor.html

Luke Higham said...

Charles: Do you intend on adding top tens for each year. Also, your ratings/thoughts on the Stalker leads.

RatedRStar said...

RatedRStar...Looks on Charles blog.., sees Best Supporting Actor 1946....smiles =D

Charles Heiston said...

Luke: I'll probably do top tens whenever i get around to it, maybe add actress.

The Stalker leads(I love this film and their performances help make the impact, both leads give raw and effecting performances, each one in a somewhat different way. Their journey is made powerful and both men show the intensity and determination of the situation brilliantly. The film still would've worked with a lesser pair but not as well as it did with both Solonitsyn and Kajdanovsky with their impeccable chemistry.

Charles Heiston said...

RatedRstar: Luckily i have Rains down for multiple wins. Notorious being my favorite.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Farrow - 3(For me there are some downright terrible moments in her performance such as in certain line deliveries "THIS IS NOT A DREAM", and the whole first part seems oddly stylized but I'm going to say it's probably just her giving a stilted performance. She gets better once the film turns to more direct horror in her depiction of Rosemary's mental and physical decay. She's more than decent in this but I wouldn't quite say great. She doesn't quite give it that visceral horror you see in a truly great horror a lead.)

Savalas - 4(I really like this performance because he in no way plays up the villainy, playing the man more as a jerk than a truly evil character. I particularly like his genuine chemistry he has with Winters that made me actually sort of a care about their relationship. Savalas makes this approach work by offering such a comic energy in his frustrations at his plans going awry, and I especially love the simple joy he portrays when he thinks he's got Lancaster's character.)

Neither Frobe nor Jeffries made an impression on me. I mean they were fine but just sort of there for me.

Werner - 4(As per usual Werner offers such unassuming emotional power to his performance. He terrific as he creates such a palatable yet understated passion that defines his character's passions behind his technically radical beliefs. He makes him rightly likable though in this showing the man just trying to be heard rather than trying to harass others. His scenes with Quinn were the best in the film.)

Magee - 4(Magee thrives with this sort of stylized role as there is something so naturally off-putting about him to begin with. He offers this intense menace that is particularly effective here as you don't know why he's scary, you're not suppose to, but Magee simply is.)

Hingle - 3.5(Hang Em High is a film needing a re-make I feel as it has a lot of interesting ideas it just take too much of a scattershot approach so you never really get enough of every aspect. Hingle is very good though in the only supporting role really given enough time. He does well to play with his judge creating the right grey with the character as he naturally goes from seeming earnest in his justice, to edges of abuse of power, but behind it perhaps a passion for more. It's a good performance that still is not served well completely by the film.)

Begley, Stevens, Dern, Hopper, Johnson - 3(All of these are good in such severely underwritten roles but with seeds of something there. Begley brings the right bluster then awkwardness to the "righteous man" proven wrong, Dern is a good despicable wretch as usual, Hopper does some classic crazy for literally a minute, Stevens offers something interesting in her haunted yet passionate revenge seeker, and Johnson is also great for a minute in portraying the stress and burden of his duty.)

Cassavetes - 3.5(As usual he is not overly charismatic but his performance does work in being properly unassuming and sort of average that stands as a good foil against all the crazies he's working with. Cassavetes importantly never makes him a direct villain showing always his selfishness as more thoughtless than actively sinister despite committing very sinister acts.)

Blackmer - 2.5(He's good for much of the film in just being a likable enough old man but with a certain mischievous glint in his eye as he speaks about religion. He though unfortunately comes off as more ridiculous than scary in the last scene.)

Louis Morgan said...

Kelly - 3(Good as a secondary to Gordon essentially, but is properly unnerving as the nice old lady satanist.)

Bellamy - 3(He does well in providing such a sinister warmth throughout his performance, always offering sincerity in every line despite being so duplicitous in act.)

Grodin - 3(He's good in his couple of scenes in just being completely unmannered and normal among all the mad people.)

Curtis - 3(His vocal performance actually is pretty good in providing the right suggestion of sorrowful subtext, of a man trying to continue to live on despite still being pained by what has happened to him.)

I can but Welles's film won't be factored into the overalls.

Charles:

1. My Left Foot
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Lincoln
4. In the Name of the Father
5. The Age of Innocence
6. A Room With A View
7. My Beautiful Launderette
8. Gangs of New York
9. The Boxer
10. The Crucible

Giuseppe:

Seyrig - 4(Her performance is rather effective in creating sort of a lower key type of allure, fitting to the sort of farcical tone of Stolen Kisses at times. Instead of being some sinister seductress she offers something a bit more pure to her performance as she offers a sincerity in her flirtations.)

Parsons - 4(I like her performance that it very much built around how she works with Woodward. Parsons does a good of creating the right difficulty there in that she suggests yet never bursts out saying what her character's intentions are. If you look hard enough they are certainly there though as Parson makes absolute sense of her behavior even when it confuses Rachel.)

Note: Since I need to drop Moreno Seyrig would be 4, Parsons 7.

Omar:

I don't really recall Gulliver's performance.

Harrington - 3(Although her performance is limited purposefully within Rachel's perspective. Harrington though does well to offer the sort of intensity in her moments of "suffering" along with just the incisiveness in her little comments to Rachel without overdoing them to become only a caricature.)

Calvin:

1. Garupe's test - Silence
2. Meeting Ferreira - Silence
3. Confronting the Inquisitor - Silence
4. Kichijiro's final confession - Silence
5. Arguing the mission with Garupe - Silence
6. "I hear you" - Hacksaw Ridge
7. Evicting - 99 Homes
8. Explaining his view - Hacksaw Ridge
9. Being Evicted - 99 Homes
10. Confronting Zuckerberg - The Social Network

In regards to Stoll, I really haven't seen too much of his work though from what I've seen I think he's a striking performer in that he has that ability to really command a presence without becoming overcooked whether it was as the final moral outrage in Black Mass or being the properly larger than life Ernest Hemingway. Stoll often makes you wonder why he didn't have a larger role such in Cafe Society, or in Ant-Man where he gave an Edgar Wright performance in a non-Edgar Wright film.

Tahmeed:

I haven't but I will when I get to 2010 again. Also glad to hear you took to Lancaster as well. Arkin's review has been updated.

Louis Morgan said...

Also finally saw Wonder Woman, delightful film.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on Wonder Woman and ratings/thoughts on the cast.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Wonder Woman, though not completely flawless, was something special for me because it pointed to me separate flaws in both Marvel and DC's superhero films. In terms of the Marvel I'm glad Wonder Woman showed it could be an upbeat film with humorous moments, but not defined by quipping. I was very happy at the lack of quipping. Furthermore though I'm glad Wonder Woman also showed what can be done with switching cinematography and style of action. There was a real beauty and intensity found in that ability to explore. The story offered some real stakes and was quite emotional by the end more so than the majority of superhero films. On the DC end it showed you can actually, you know, structure a film, you bother to pace, have natural interactions between characters, have humor without being forced about it, all those things and more. Again there are a few flaws, the crew could have been more developed though to be fair they might as well be Shakespearean leads when compared to Thor's and Captain America's crews from their first films. Also in the final battle, I think the villain should have stayed what he looked like at first. Still the flaws are fairly minor, it's an enjoyable film and loved its lack of cynicism both in spirit but also in terms of not having "here are commercials for our next films in this film!".

Gadot/Pine - 4/4.5(Gadot has just a couple of iffy moments in there nothing ever too distracting though. Most of the time her performance excels in every facet of the character. In the fish out of water, she's endearing without being overly comical in that, and never overdoes it. She also though embodies that powerful presence that Wonder Woman needs to be as she commands in the right way fitting to exactly who the character needs to be. She makes her optimism has this certain unmistakable power to it. Pine gives his best straight leading man turn here. It's the best example of his charm, as he's at his most charming without needing to subvert that without any Captain Kirk sleaze. He though does balance it well by actually creating the sense of the severity of the war scenes, providing the right weight to them offering the reality of it within his character. What takes them both further is their chemistry together though. They are wonderful in realizing their humorous moments but also making the romance completely work. It never feels tacked on and the two make it something quite affecting by the end, and making it easily the best romance in any super hero film.)

Wright & Nielsen - 3(Both I think did a fine job in offering a similair warmth in their roles just kind of delivered in a different way, Wright more internally Nielsen more externally in their scenes with Gadot, and also combining that with a convincing harder edge fitting to their characters.)

Huston - 2(Yeah I'd say he was suppose to be a bit obvious but this is a very bland slice of ham on his part. Every moment he's making a crazy eyed look but it's strangely never entertaining in the least.)

Anaya - 2.5(She's also hamming it up, though she's at least mildly entertaining in doing almost a Peter Lorre sort of thing, and actually found her quite good in her final more emotional moment.)

Davis - 3(Effective comic relief without becoming too much at any point. She endears without ever annoying which is a nice trick.)

Taghmaoui, Bremner, Rock - 3(I wish all of them had been just given a bit more meat because all three do quite well with the very little they have)

Thewlis - 3.5

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Thewlis.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And rating & thoughts on Sydney Tafler in The Birthday Party.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the No Man's Land scene.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And has this film raised your expectations for Justice League. :)

Calvin Law said...

Really enjoyed your reappraisal of Arkin, Louis!

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Fine.....

SPOILER WARNING

Thewlis - (I predicted the twist the moment I saw him, but I ponder if I would have without Fargo, after all the role without the twist wouldn't have been against the type he's been stuck in just before this year. Anyway though Thewlis is good in almost the Ralph Richardson role in any war film in his early scenes, but that delivers in actually providing the needed impact to the last minute switch. He's a good offset to the clowning of Huston, as Thewlis offers the right exact yet not overblown sort of evil particularly in the fantasy moment where he brings the needed charisma in his attempted persuasion scene. When he goes full evil though Thewlis nicely holds back actually offering the right colder menace fitting to the character.)

Jenkins directs in a way, using effects and real sets, to offer a real weight to every use of Wonder Woman's power that makes the scene so visually striking and incredibly rousing. No single expression of the power seems vague, the idea of such force in an actual reality is realized. It's such a terrific scene that puts most superpower display scenes to shame.

Tafler - 4(Works well with Magee to create such an unnerving party of two. Tafler's performance though works as a fine foil for Magee's more active though still mysterious menace, with his own brand of a sort cheery sinister quality. He acts as a proper MC for a party but does it in such a way that everything seems so unpleasant in Tafler's heightened delivery of such proper pleasantries.)

Not in the slightest unfortunately. I mean Gadot was already one of the few good things about Batman v Superman, so I'm going to assume that will be the case still with Justice League. There is no reason to believe, from the trailers, that they really learned any lessons from that film other than, hey let's put in some quips!!!!

Luke Higham said...

Louis: I'm pleased that you're still wholly pessimistic. :)

Anonymous said...

Louis and Luke: Well, can we agree that Simmons will give a good performance, even if he doesn't get enough screentime?

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

I can agree with that.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Yes. :)

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

Thanks.

Charles Heiston said...

Louis: Could Duvall be upgraded for The Apostle.

Michael McCarthy said...

1. Tony Curtis
2. Tom Courtenay
3. Trevor Howard
4. Klaus Kinski
5. Ian Holm

For the first time in far too long, I'm happy to say I actually got to watch all of these.

RatedRStar said...

Louis: Are you looking forward to seeing Billy Budd 2? =D.

Anonymous said...

Varun Neermul:

1.Curtis
2.Courtenay
3.Howard
4.Kanske
5.Holm

Robson Nakazato said...

1 - Curtis
2 - Courtenay
3 - Howard
4 - Kinski
5 - Holm

Louis Morgan said...

Charles:

Yes.

RatedRStar:

Is it about ghosts?