Monday, 3 April 2017

Alternate Best Actor 1984

And the Nominees Were Not:

John Hurt in The Hit

Terence Stamp in The Hit

Jack Lemmon in Mass Appeal


Tsutomu Yamazaki in Farewell to the Ark 

John Cassavetes in Love Streams

92 comments:

Luke Higham said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Lemmon
3. Hurt
4. Stamp
5. Cassavetes

For Supporting:
Sting in Dune
Harry Dean Stanton and Tracy Walter in Repo Man
Robert Duvall in The Natural
Tim Roth in The Hit

Luke Higham said...

*Tracey Walter

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Stamp
3. Hurt
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Calvin Law said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Cassavetes
5. Lemmon

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Films to watch.
Romancing The Stone
The Neverending Story
The Company Of Wolves
The Bostonians
The Cotton Club
Tightrope
The Pope Of Greenwich Village
Sixteen Candles
The River
Country
Stranger Than Paradise
Body Double
Footloose
Children Of The Corn
Police Academy
Broadway Danny Rose
Red Dawn
Dreamscape
Iceman
The Funeral

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And Swing Shift.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Lastly, Against All Odds and Splash.

omar said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Stamp
3. Hurt
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Varun Neermul said...

Louis, your thoughts on the Errand Josephson and Liv uLLMANN IN 'Scenes From A Marriage'

Charles Heiston said...

Yamazaki returns once more.

1. Yamazaki
2. Stamp
3. Hurt
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Luke Higham said...

2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Anonymous said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Charles Heiston said...

Luke and RatedRStar: What did you guys think of Wrestlemania?

Luke Higham said...

Charles: Mostly boring and TOO FUCKING LONG. The Hardy Boyz returning and Brock suplexing the shit out of Goldberg were the highlights.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: And I was sad that Undertaker had a terrible match for his swansong. AJ would've meshed a hell of a lot better than Roman. At least Undertaker wouldn't struggle giving him the tombstone piledriver.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: What did you think of Wrestlemania XXXIII.

Charles Heiston said...

Luke: KO winning was great, Goldberg getting suplexed was basically a masterpiece. And Hardy Boyz returning was obviously a high point. But for the most part it was dragged out. Wrestlemania should've been cut in half with a knife.

omar said...

Luke: I agree with you, it was too long, Lesnar vs. Goldberg, the Hardys return and Neville vs. Aries were great.
I think the worst moment was the battle royal, they wasted Brauuuuun, Zayn and Harper.
I was a bit disappointed by Jericho and Owens because i was expecting a Wrestlemania classic but it was "only" a very good match.

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: I agree on Owens and Jericho. I really wanted that match to be the best on the show, but coming after AJ/Shane didn't help.

Charles Heiston said...

Omar: Yeah, KO vs. Y2J was a disappointing match, but the right man won. The pacing of the whole show was just terrible.

Anonymous said...

Cena purposing was the highlight.

Calvin Law said...

I should note on here that after having recently re-watched both Moonlight and Silence (both which held up equally well on re-watch), I'm switching to Ali for my win.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Fuck Cena, he's trash.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: Yawn Cena and Miss Perfect as the highlight? I don't think so.

Charles Heiston said...

Anonymous 1: No way.

Anonymous 2: I agree, it was an annoying moment to me.

Charles Heiston said...

Calvin: Well i can't disagree with that choice, most of the supporting field of 2016 were worthy of a win.

RatedRStar said...

I really liked Wrestlemania, I thought The Hardyz returning was great, they look great for their age as well =D I could still hear fangirls screaming for Jeff =D, The stage was amazing as well with the rollercoaster and colourful ramp, I thought Wrestlemania 32 was a disaster while I felt most of the matches had the correct winners for 33, Roman gave a very poor performance but it didnt matter because of how powerful Undertakers retirement was.

Kurt Angle coming out was great, AJ Styles and Shane did very well, honestly I thought this Wrestlemania was very memorable, and at the very least it was way better than 32s disaster.

Randy Orton and Bray was fine but not great simply because it was the only match where the crowd was completed dead aside from the cool special effect on the ring.

Roman and Taker was the only bad match I feel.

RatedRStar said...

The Miz was very entertaining as well.

Calvin Law said...

Charles: Kubozuka just didn't hold up as well as Ali. Both are great though and haunt you in quite the unique fashion. I should note though that Garfield's win only solidified itself all the more.

RatedRStar said...

1. Hurt
2. Yamazaki
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Did you enjoy Lesnar-Goldberg.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I did actually, it was quick but not too quick and had non stop action given the short time so no complaints =D.

omar said...

Louis: My request is Tahar Rahim in Un Prophète.

Anonymous said...

Dudley Moore won the Golden Globe for best actor in a comedy so his film should be looked at I think.

JackiBoyz said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes

Deiner said...

My Predictions:
1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Stamp
4. Lemmon
5. Cassavetes
Louis: can you also check out "Crimes of Passion", "Choose Me", "Irreconcilable Differences", "Mrs. Soffel" and "The Little Drummer Girl"?

Robson Nakazato said...

The New Overall Rank:

1 - F. Murray Abraham in Amadeus
2 - Haing S. Ngor in The Killing Fields
3 - Harry Dean Stanton in Paris, Texas
4 - Tsutomu Yamazaki in Farewell to the Ark
5 - John Hurt in The Jit
6 - Philip Baker Hall in Secret Honor
7 - Robert De Niro in Once Upon a Time in America
8 - Terence Stamp in The Hit
9 - Jack Lemmon in Mass Appeal
10 - Bill Murray in Ghostbusters

Luke Higham said...

Robson: I think you're missing Tom Hulce in Amadeus.

Maciej said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Lemmon
4. Stamp
5. Cassavetes

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your top ten performances in Horror films.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Do you still prefer Ngor's performance in The Killing Fields to Hackman's in Unforgiven.

Psifonian said...

All I gotta say is, McMillan better make it for "Dune."

Robert MacFarlane said...

I still maintain Sting and that falcon speedo are the best part of Dune.

Michael Patison said...

1. Tsutomu Yamazaki
2. John Hurt
3. Terence Stamp
4. Jack Lemmon
5. John Cassavetes

Calvin Law said...

So I just watched Dragonheart. Not gonna lie, thought it was really enjoyable, though it's also a great example of how a great score can perhaps make a film greater than the sum of its parts.

mcofra7 said...

1. Yamazaki
2. Hurt
3. Cassavetes
4. Stamp
5. Lemmon

I'm going to take a bit of a chance on Cassavetes

Michael McCarthy said...

Psifonian: This is off-topic, but because of your username I had to eventually ask...Are you a Sinfonian?

Calvin Law said...

Louis: thoughts and rating for Tobey Maguire in Tropic Thunder :)

RatedRStar said...

In regards to people from Dune being considered contenders for Supporting lol having seen some clips of Sting from it, I dont know whether to laugh at this suggestion or cry lol. So potentially James Woods, Harry Dean Stanton, John Candy could miss out lol omg I am crying actually lol.

RatedRStar said...

You know somethings wrong when I cant decide whether Louis will give Wiseaus or Robert Shaw ratings lol.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis- Your top 5 acting performances from the Star Wars films.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Once Psifonian asks for something, he'll get it.

It'll be:
Sting & McMillan
Stanton
Roth
Candy
Duvall or Woods

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Also, could I have your top 10 Anthony Hopkins acting moments?

Robert MacFarlane said...

Oh shit, I totally forgot John Candy in Splash for supporting. He steals that movie and runs with it.

RatedRStar said...

You know what, Louis should see Dune regardless, probably before the supporting lineup and then he will know, Siskel and Eberts review of Dune is one of the best lol.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Who would you rather see reviewed, Paul Bettany in A Knight's Tale or Hayden Christensen in Life As A House.

Calvin Law said...

Saw Free Fire, I'm not sure what to think. On one hand it's certainly fun, on the other hand it realllllllyyyyy stretches the concept to the point that it felt a bit too aimless after a while. Louis will like it, I think.

Larson - 3.5
Copley - 4
Hammer - 3.5
Murphy - 4
Reynor - 3.5
Riley - 4
Smiley - 3
Ceesay - 3
Taylor - 3.5
Cilenti - 2.5

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: Who's your MVP.

Calvin Law said...

Luke: Probably Murphy, I'd say Copley was the most entertaining but it was kind of him doing his usual troll routine. Riley was pretty good at playing the most despicable fella on display. Murphy managed to show the physical deterioration and growing anxiety of the man as well as adding a dose of unexpected humour to the role.

I should note that there's not all that much of a gap between most of the cast members, I held off 4's for Larson, Hammer and Reynor mainly because they're all fairly one-note action girl, suave fool, and uncouth fool, but they play that note well.

Charles Heiston said...

There's no way Harry Dean Stanton or John Candy can miss out on reviews.

Calvin: Well that's unfortunate about Copley, i wish he'd pick more of a variety in roles.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: I dont know, the reason is because I know Bettany was good, I have seen A Knights Tale and it was fine enough as a sort of chill out film, I havent actually seen Hayden, as Robert Macfarlane knows and I am sure you know as well that I was going to have him as a winning request but then changed it, I still have him in the lineup along with Bettany so I think both can get in.

Despite the film getting very mixed reviews Hayden Christensen did get SAG and Golden Globe nominated so that makes his performance very curious indeed, I reckon he was 6th in the voting but taken out in the end by Ethan Hawkes clever decision to go supporting.

RatedRStar said...

I havent seen Free Fire just yet but I was really worried by the trailers which sort of suggested that Cillian Murphy was going to be killed first or one of the first which nobody wants to see that happen.

Calvin Law said...

Without spoiling anything, he's not :)

RatedRStar said...

Calvin Law: Splendid =D

Louis Morgan said...

Varun:

Ullmann & Josephson - (Of course the real basis for the so much of the series is the reality of the relationship therefore the most pivotal aspect of both their performances is their chemistry. Of course that is not a simple romantic chemistry something they have at times but it is not a constant. In fact they rather interestingly portray it more of a lustful infatuation that sometimes reappears as though it is the remnants of their earliest time as a couple. Their history is readily apparent in both of the performances and all of it feel so honest with years buried beneath within. There isn't a moment that seems forced or artificial this is despite the extremes of so many from those moments of lust to actual physical violence. The emotion behind the circumstances though is so effortless. Every facet we see simply feels what is the truth of their troubled marriage which includes both indications of the love shared, but also the constant problems whether minor or major in nature. In terms of their individual performances the two have rather different arcs to portray. With Ullman, who seems incapable of a false note, is as usual outstanding in detailing every moment of how her Marianne changes through the marital woes. Ullman portrays the pain of the heartbreak of the rejection but that is not her singular focus. She also slowly conveys this sort of independence in her portraying through almost this more intense confrontational spirit, as she brings a sharper edge to Marianne in the later episodes. She shows the way she becomes less passive, though in no way simplifies this to rid her of her troubles. She still reveals vulnerabilities but depicts them in a far more confrontational way than in the first episode. Josephson has a different challenge as, though his motives are certainly there Johan is kept just a bit a more of a distance from the audience than Marianne. Josephson's performance is rather effective though in this curious dichotomy that he creates in Johan. In that most of the time he presents him as this well rounded man, though with this subtle unease in this behavior. When Johan does something rash it is particularly sudden. Josephson makes sense of this by portraying these as his emotional breaks in almost his self-conditioning. This approach works well and it makes certain moments particularly blunt as often Johan will suddenly say exactly what he means after speaking around it the rest of the time. Josephson's performance makes this behavior completely believable. The two of them together though is truly the highlight since it feels like merely being able to peek in on this married couple.)

Luke:

1. Robert Shaw - Jaws
2. Richard Attenborough - 10 Rillington Place
3. John Hurt - 10 Rillington Place
4. Sigourney Weaver - Alien 3
5. Kathy Bates - Misery
6. Sissy Spacek - Carrie
7. Ian Holm - Alien
8. Deborah Kerr - The Innocents
9. Veronica Cartwright - Alien
10. Edward Woodward - The Wicker Man

Calvin:

Well that performance just speaks volumes doesn't it, utilizing the same skill evident in that MTV best kiss award winning performance.

Tahmeed:

1. Alec Guinness - Star Wars
2. Harrison Ford - The Empire Strikes Back
3. Harrison Ford - Star Wars
4. Carrie Fisher - The Empire Strikes Back
5. John Boyega - The Force Awakens

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Are Ford and Fisher 4.5s for Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back respectively.

Luke Higham said...

Your thoughts on Scenes From A Marriage and the cast.

Also, if you saw the theatrical version, would Ullmann be a likely five.

Louis Morgan said...

Tahmeed:

1. "The human intelligence is like peacock feathers" - Westworld
2. Lewis pledges his love - Shadowlands
3. "Who they might be" - Westworld
4. Private moment with Philip - The Lion in Winter
5. Meeting Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
6. Seeing the Elephant Man - The Elephant Man
7. Corky tries not to use Fats - Magic
8. "Piano doesn't murder the player" - Westworld
9. Lecture breakdown - Shadowlands
10. "Never like to drink alone" - Westworld

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Yes.

Scenes From a Marriage from a marriage isn't exactly the most pleasant mini-series yet I cannot deny its ability to break down into brutal honesty while so easily avoiding melodrama despite the nature of its story, and feels a far more mature work than his somewhat similarly themed "The Touch" from just two years before. This is perhaps Bergman's best written work given the sheer detail granted to every interaction between the couple which says even more than even what is already said. Credit is particularly due for making each episode, within the episodes themselves, that depicts the deterioration of the marriage. Something rather remarkable about Bergman's work though is the way he shows the build up then break down which is never all at once, and shows just how terribly messy the central relationship is. Although I could see probably were the trims were made in the theatrical version, I have to say I appreciated to the episodic nature of the series. As it granted the specific look at each particular time, and I would want that cut around. For example my favorite episode might have been the divorce signing episode which was a single scene.

Andersson - (The only performance outside of the leads that made that much of an impression on me. She's great though in her realization of kind of a foil of Ullmann's Marianne, by portraying a more overtly intense disdain. Andersson's work though is terrific realization of a true passive aggression that really is far more aggressive than passive at any point. It still is often implied just by the words yet Andersson makes it obvious in the best of ways.)

She would be. I mean after all easily defeats all other television comers from 1973, those MASH and Sandford and Son episodes didn't stand a chance.

Deiner:

I'll try my best.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Rating and thoughts on Bruce Dern in The Laughing Policeman.

Calvin Law said...

Louis: which film has stayed with you more, The Force Awakens or Rogue One? Also glad we agree that Boyega is MVP.

Robert MacFarlane said...

Surprised about Boyega over Ridley or Driver. Hell, I actually give Ridley my Best Actress win for 2015.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I preferred The Force Awakens as it hit me more emotionally, whereas Rogue One was interesting yet only had one outstanding scene (Vader on a rampage).

Robert MacFarlane said...

Calvin: The Force Awakens is infinitely better than Rogue One.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Dern - 4(It's really an incredibly thin character and he only has his Dernyness to save him, luckily that is more than enough. I wish Dern honestly had a solo renegade cop film to himself since he is so much fun here in just how he handles any given scene. He brings that typical mad energy that works wonders in portraying an off-beat cop. The film does not let him do enough, but he's easily the highlight of it.)

Calvin:

Honestly they're pretty even in that regard. In that I have no real urge to re-watch either of them, not that I would avoid watching them. In the end they still have the same place in my mind where Force Awakens if far more consistent but Rogue One had greater heights for me in terms of individual moments.

Calvin Law said...

Fair enough, I basically agree. Also, your retroactive cast for a 1990s and 2000s One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on the cinematography of Psycho.

Louis Morgan said...

Calvin:

90's:

McMurphy: Mel Gibson
Nurse Ratched: Catherine O'Hara
Chief: Russell Means
Harding: Michael McKean
Cheswick: Andrew Robinson
Taber: Viggo Mortensen
Bibbit: Edward Norton

00's:

McMurphy: Sam Rockwell
Nurse Ratched: Jennifer Jason Leigh
Chief: Steve Reevis
Harding: Paul Reiser
Cheswick: Tom Hulce
Taber: Eddie Marsan
Bibbit: Ben Whishaw

Anonymous:

Excellent work and somewhat atypical in its use of contrast. In that instead of intensely contrasting the dark and light, more usual for horror films of the period, its focus is often the grey where the two meet rather fitting for both a representation of the moral nature of the main characters, but also keeps everything off balance yet so pristine all the same. It leaves you on edge yet never gives its surprises away. Filled with unforgettable shots special mention for the beginning of the shower scene as grey slowly forms into darker figure before the reveal.

94dfk1 said...

Louis: 2010s cast for One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest as well? I'd like to see what Bradley Cooper or Jake Gyllenhaal would bring to McMurphy.

Calvin Law said...

94dfk1: I did one of my own the other day, though I do think that Jake and Cooper would be good choices too.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 2010s Cast
Directed by David Mackenzie
Randle McMurphy: Ben Foster
Nurse Ratched: Sarah Paulson
Chief: Gil Birmingham
Billy: Anton Yelchin would've been perfect, or Evan Peters
Charlie: Joe Lo Truglio
Harding: Glenn Howerton
Max: Keegan-Michael Key
Martini: ?

Calvin Law said...

Actually Howerton might be a bit young, maybe switch to Shea Whigham.

Alex Marqués said...

I'd like to see Howerton playing a meaty dramatic role.

GM said...

1. Cassavetes
2. Lemmon
3. Yamazaki
4. Hurt
5. Stamp

Calvin Law said...

Louis: What do you think of the idea of Robert Pattison as Bond? I know he's probably a bit too closely identified with the Twilight franchise/Edward, but given that he's kind of gone off the radar in recent years, and he's good looking and charismatic but in a very off-kilter way, I think he could make a fascinating successor to Craig once the latter finishes (presumably) the next film.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I know Hiddleston's not happening, but I really do not want Pattison as Bond. He could be good in The Lost City Of Z for all I know, but I'll always prefer Luke Evans to take over.

Louis Morgan said...

94dk1:

I'd probably go Joaquin Phoenix for McMurphy as he needs some of that pure Id.

Calvin:

A bit of an unsure quantity for me since I've only seen him in The Goblet of Fire and the Rover where he was at very least decent. Haven't seen an example of a more exactly charismatic turn by him though.

Calvin Law said...

Luke and Louis: Much prefer Evans to Pattison, of course, but I have a bad feeling that Hollywood will never want to make a star out of Evans. Hope I'm wrong, though.

Pattison is very charming in Bel Ami though the film's terrible, and he has some star quality in his David Cronenberg collaborations.

Calvin Law said...

Also, he'll not be Bond purely because they'll be looking at Brit actors but Matthias Schoenaerts would kill it as 007.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin: I'd be more than happy with that choice. :) His accent work is top notch, but shame about the anti-foreign bias.

Calvin Law said...

I mean, it's less problematic than say, people calling out Daniel Kaluuya for playing an African American in Get Out because he's not American (stupid argument), and though it is a shame that it limits the range of actors that could be chosen, I understand why.

Psifonian said...

Michael: OAS AAS LLS.