Saturday, 26 September 2015

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1940

And the Nominees Were Not:

Frank Morgan in The Shop Around the Corner

John Carradine in The Grapes of Wrath

George Sanders in Rebecca

George Sanders in Foreign Correspondent

Herbert Marshall in Foreign Correspondent

71 comments:

JackiBoyz said...

1)George Sanders - Rebecca
2)John Carradine
3)George Sanders - Foreign Correspondent
4)Frank Morgan
5)Herbert Marshall

My winning request is

Oskar Werner - Decision Before Dawn

Anonymous said...

Louis what are your top ten films of 1940 and your thoughts on these films;
The Mortal Storm
Contraband
The Great McGinty
The Bank Dick
The Sea Hawk

Anonymous said...

Louis have you ever seen Fantasia or The Thief of Baghdad, what do you make to them?

Maciej said...

1.Sanders (Rebecca)
2.Sanders (FC)
3.Marshall
4.Carradine
5.Morgan

Luke Higham said...

1. Rebecca
2. Carradine
3. Foreign Correspondent
4. Marshall
5. Morgan

Anonymous said...

1. Sanders (Rebecca)
2. Carradine
3. Sanders (FC)
4. Marshall
5. Morgan
Ratings and thoughts on:
Walter Brennan in To Have and Have Not, My Darling Clementine, Rio Bravo and Red River
Robert Mitchum in Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo
By the way, I was reading Larger than Life: Movies of the 50's, and at page 46, it says that Dana Andrews was skilled playing roles that Peck couldn't bring subtlety in Spellbound and The Paradine Case. Do you think that Andrews would have been a good choice for both of those roles? And also, Olivier and Colman were considered.

Michael Patison said...

1. George Sanders (Rebecca)
2. George Sanders (Foreign Correspondent)
3. Herbert Marshall
4. John Carradine
5. Frank Morgan

Luke Higham said...

Finished MEATDG and it was okay, I guess (Michael, don't take it as if I liked the film, because I didn't)

Mann - 2.5
Cooke - 3
Cyler II - 2

GM said...

1. Carradine
2. Sanders Rebecca
3. Sanders FC
4. Marshall
5. Morgan

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Films for you to watch.
Testament Of Youth
Southpaw
Cinderella
Inside Out
Sicario
The Man From U.N.C.L.E.
Mr. Holmes
Spy
Child 44
Trainwreck

Calvin Law said...

1. Sanders (Rebecca)
2. Carradine
3. Sanders (Foreign Correspondent)
4. Marshall
5. Morgan

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

The Mortal Storm - (Like so many of the films of the period it carries its anti-Nazi message on its sleeve, which actually is rarely problematic for these films. It's interesting to actually see a rather intense depiction of the Nazi regime, and there are some surprisingly effective scenes since doesn't hold back as much as you might imagine. My only major problem with the film would be that some of the actors playing the Nazis are tad on the goofy side.)

Contraband - (This probably does have one of the most unusual leads for a semi-romantic thriller you'd ever see, it actually makes the film stand out fairly well though. It's interesting in that it springs the Hitchcokian thriller on you a bit, and does it quite the effective fashion. It's an entertaining romp.)

The Great McGinty - (Speaking of unusual leads, this film basically makes us follow a thug in a political machine. This leads into some classic Preston Sturges goodness with its extremely sardonic depiction of the system. My only minor problem with the film is that when it gains a conscious it does not do so as smoothly as one would like. Nevertheless its a memorable satire of the political process)

The Bank Dick - (One gag after another basically with the steadfast W.C. Fields in the middle of it all. That's just fine by me as the gags consistently hits their marks making for one very funny film.)

The Sea Hawk - (Probably one of the most subtle Anti-Nazi films of the period actually I'd say. The Sea Hawk has plenty of the usual Flynn Swashbuckler goodness to it, but the film actually creates a more intense atmosphere than usual making it feel as though more is on the line than is often the case with these films)

Top Ten:

1. Rebecca
2. Pinocchio
3. The Great Dictator
4. The Shop Around the Corner
5. Foreign Correspondent
6. The Grapes of Wrath
7. The Sea Hawk
8. Contraband
9. The Bank Dick
10. The Great McGinty

Anonymous:

Haven't seen Thief although I want to before I finish the supporting round.

I believe I've given my thoughts on Fantasia, but just to reiterate a bit. It's perhaps slightly too long, and not every segment is equally good. There are no bad segments though and the great ones are outstanding.

Anonymous:

Brennan - To Have and Have Not - 4(Brennan was a great sidekick for anyone he chose to be sidekick to, in this case Humphrey Bogart. Brennan as usual brings his endearing sort of presence and humor to the part. I'd say this was a particularly good example of his usual role.)

My Darling Clementine - 3(Not nearly enough of him, and there should have been as he's easily the best villain in the film. Brennan though as usual plays old quite well, and is quite the despicable old coot in this case)

Rio Bravo - 3.5(This one I'd say I could see why he might turn one off, as its not one of his most subtle turns. Nevertheless I quite enjoyed his over blown old coot routine in this case)

Red River - 3(Once again provides an endearing sidekick this time both to Wayne, and to Montgomery Clift)

Mitchum - (He's fine but not given enough to do to make any impact)

Colman I'd say would have just been a little too old for those roles. Andrews would have been ideal for Spellbound, as I think he would have been for a 40's version of Shutter Island, as he certainly knew how to be the strong leading man type, but what he was really great at was knowing how to strip it away. The Paradine Case was an underwritten film to begin with, but Peck completely failed to realize the obsession of the character, something I think Andrews could have potentially knocked out of the park. Olivier I'm sure would have been good in both roles.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Who would be your cast and director for Taxi Driver in the 40's and 50's?

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Actually I've seen Inside Out and Southpaw already.

Anonymous:

1940's (directed by John Huston):

Travis: Montgomery Clift
Iris: Elizabeth Taylor
Sport: Robert Ryan
Betsy: Rita Hayworth
Tom: Edmond O'Brien
The Passenger: John Huston

1950's (directed by Elia Kazan):

Travis: Marlon Brando
Iris: Natalie Wood
Sport: Karl Malden
Betsy: Marilyn Monroe
Tom: Walter Matthau

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Thoughts on the films and your ratings and thoughts on the casts.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Let me guess, Paul Newman would be your choice for a 60's version of Taxi Driver?

moviefilm said...

1) John Carradine
2) George Sanders (R)
3) Frank Morgan
4) George Sanders (FC)
5) Herbert Marshall

omar! said...

Have anyone sera The Danish Girl?
I saw it last night and i thought it Was a well directed drama, far more better than the King's speech.
Redmayne was fantastic and I give him a 5.
Vikander was so amazing, I give her a 5 too and she was also better than Redmayne, she is the a co-lead so I think she will be nominated in the leading category for oscars, like Jones in the theory of everything.
Heard 2,5
Whishaw 2/2,5
Shoenaerts 3

Michael McCarthy said...

1. John Carradine
2. George Sanders (Rebecca)
3. Herbert Marshall
4. George Sanders (Foreign Correspondent)
5. Frank Morgan

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: It won't be released in the US until the end of November, whereas the Brits have to wait until the new year.

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: I have high hopes for Vikander. Your rating for Whishaw's quite painful, as with Suffragette, he seems to be stuck in a rut with one/two dimensional roles at the moment.

omar! said...

Luke: Vikander was so great, I want her to win the Oscar this year. I have to mention also the wonderful score by Desplat

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: I want Mulligan to win this year, though if she doesn't, my second choice would definitely be Vikander as she's had a amazing year so far. :)

I think Blanchett may give the best performance in the Best Actress category this year.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Which 5 films have you enjoyed the least so far this year.

Luke Higham said...

*She's had *an* Amazing Year so far.

Michael McCarthy said...

I'm starting to to think it'll be Larson for Best Actress this year, Room has been gaining a lot of traction and her performance has been getting rave reviews. She also had the advantage of never having won before, whereas Blanchett and Lawrence have both won within the last few years.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: I'm not ruling out Larson by any stretch, (My anticipation for the film has skyrocketed recently) but Mulligan, Vikander and Ronan haven't won either.

Luke Higham said...

Michael: She has a great chance of winning the overall though and I'll be pleased with her winning as well. :)

Luke Higham said...

Michael: And she was fantastic in Short Term 12. :)

RatedRStar said...

Time to introduce Louis to a new Hong Kong actor I think =D

1. John Carradine
2. George Sanders (Rebecca)
3. Herbert Marshall
4. George Sanders (FC)
5. Frank Morgan

Robert MacFarlane said...

The words "Academy Award Winner Brie Larson" would make me the happiest person in the world.

omar! said...

Louis: I don't see Mulligan winning this year, my nominees would be:
Larson, blanchett, Lawrence, Vikander and Mulligan

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: It's either gonna be Mulligan, Blanchett or Larson.
Larson
Mulligan
Blanchett
Vikander
Lawrence

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: But I'll decide on which one, whenever the Golden Globes come around.

Robert MacFarlane said...

1. Sanders (Rebecca)
2. Carradine
3. Sanders (FC)
4. Marshall
5. Morgan

RatedRStar said...

My winning request is a very late Montgomery Clift style performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbk9YaUWXG8

Liu Kai Chi - The Stool Pigeon

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Is he lead or supporting.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Supporting, Nicholas Tse and Nick Cheung are the two leads, the film was made by the same person who made The Beast Stalker, and stars the same 3 actors.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: I thought as much. Will you be recommending Tse and Cheung for Lead as 2010's a bit low on contenders.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: No Offence, but I'm pleased that Wales beat England. :)

RatedRStar said...

=D haha none taken I dont really watch Rugby lol

On Tse and Cheung it is possible, as I thought both of them were very good, both were deserving of their Hong Kong nominations (win in the case of Tse).

I also have some suggestions, in particular of requesting a supporting actor performance who was also nominated at the 2010 HK awards just like Liu Kai Chi was =D funnily enough an actor that Louis knows of =D.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: :)

Do you still think Chelsea will win the Premier League.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Umm I dont know, It is still too early to call I think, very unpredictable this year.

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous:

Stuart Whitman, I'd say Newman had too much natural charisma for Bickle.

Luke:

Southpaw - (An extremely forgettable boxing movie in that I struggle to recall much about it, and I did not watch it all that long ago. It has absolutely nothing to add to the genre, and isn't good enough to simply be just a straight forward Rocky type. Instead it kinda attempts a Raging Bull and Rocky being smashed together which really doesn't work. I'll admit I did not mind watching it, but it left no lasting impact whatsoever)

Gyllenhaal - 3.5(Gyllenhaal certainly went the distance to get to be believable in the physical qualities of the boxer, and I think he hits the notes well enough. He gets the anger, the toughness, and the grief well enough. The problem is the character of Billy Hope is not an honest one as written. His anger problems are used for plot points, rather than it ever feeling like an actual part of the character, as hard as Gyllenhaal might try to make it so. What I felt was particularly telling was that we don't see any of his anger management classes, which felt like a cheat to the audience, and technically to Gyllenhaal since we must just assume he resolved all his issues off screen.)

Whitaker - 3(Whitaker is just fine in an all too standard trainer role. He brings the passion in the way he needs to, but the film does not bother to let him and Gyllenhaal actually create a relationship which I feel there was some potential there.)

McAdams - 3(I hate what they did with her here since I actually really liked her chemistry with Gyllenhaal, and I would have rather seen a film about their relationship.)

Harris - 2.5(Wasted though fine)

Laurence - 2(She could have been worse, but there's a lot asked of her and she does not deliver)

Jackson - 2(He's not terrible or anything just rather bland and forgettable. I think that someone else could have perhaps made his sleazy promoter a highlight of the film)

Inside Out - (Eh I always sound like faint praise whenever I react to a Pixar film as I never love them as much as most do. I liked it though)

Poehler - 3.5(She brings the appropriate energy to joy incarnate, while delivering the needed variation in the more emotional scenes)

Smith - 4(She's quite good as her voice work really realizes a strange depth to the sadness as it does not feel one note, which is a strange sounding thing, but through her voice she actually manages to help to realize the purpose of sadness that is essential for the film)

Black - 3.5(The role he was born to play I suppose)

Kaling - 2.5(She's fine actually, but really Disgust was the best they could come up with for the fifth emotion? She really lacks a point.)

Kind - 4(He's entertaining in the slightly manic cartoon voice and turns Bing Bong immensely endearing character. He actually does bring a certain desperation about it within alluding to the character's fading status while making it particularly unsettling when this fully comes out with his final somber lines that are quite devastating)

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

In regards to my five least, I'd prefer not at the moment due to my tendency to avoid almost universally acknowledged bad films.

Calvin Law said...

Aw shucks Louis (yes this is going to be a thing), and to think I envisaged Inside Out being one of your top films of the year.

Also did Conrad Veidt's performance in Contraband intrigue you into watching some more of his work like Thief of Bagdhad (can you save for maybe bonus rounds), and his Powell + Pressburger collaborations.

omar! said...

Luke: Wales was very lucky in that match

Calvin Law said...

Agreed with Omar. :(

Luke Higham said...

Omar! & Calvin: England made a grave mistake not going for the penalty at the end. Without Halfpenny, England should've won by at least 10 points, but their discipline and decision making continues to undermine them. I hope they thrash Australia, which won't happen I'm afraid.

I do sympathise with you Calvin, as my dad's English-Born, but was raised in Wales.

omar! said...

Luke e Calvin: Samuel L Jackson tweeted for England

omar! said...

I heard that Samuel L Jackson could ne notimated as Lead in the Hateful Eight so Kurt Russell could go supporting; what do you think?

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: It's nice seeing the likes of Jackson and Hasslehoff loving the great game of Rugby. :)

In regards to Jackson's placement, he's got no chance, if it happens to be the case.

Calvin Law said...

Don't worry Luke I don't really take sides haha.

As for Jackson, no way he's lead unless we've been severely misled by the trailers.

omar! said...

I heard that news after the first screening of the movie

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: I seem to be right about Leigh as well, though it is the first screening. Whether he's Lead or Supporting, Jackson has a far better chance of being nominated in the latter category.

omar! said...

Luke: I'm a big fan of both Tarantino and Jackson and I'd like to see this one winning but the supporting category this year will be very strong with the likes of Elba, Rylance, the Spotlight and Joy boys

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: Don't forget Hardy, Del Toro and Keitel.

I want Cooper and De Niro to give very good performances, but I'm not convinced at the moment.

RatedRStar said...

I dont really think Del Toro has a chance of winning but getting a nomination seems likely, I reckon Sicario wont do well at the Oscars and probably just get an editing nomination and Del Toro for Supporting Actor.

Louis I reckon the first year you should do for the bonus is 2011 since there has been like 7 requests there so it would be a very easy one for you to start with.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: A nomination was what I meant for Del Toro. :)

I'm quite desperate for 2012, (We've already come up with more than 5 contenders) but 2011 should come next from that decade.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: And as I've said about 2 or 3 times before, he's already hinted at doing 2012 first.

MIKKELSEN :) :) :)

Anonymous said...

Luke: Well, I'm back after losing internet connection for 7 hours and all I have to say is that Cooper will give a good performance and as we all know, De Niro will give an okay performance.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I might as well predict ratings for them.
Cooper - 3/3.5
De Niro - 2.5

Anonymous said...

Luke: At the moment, I believe that Supporting will be more interesting than Lead.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: Yes. Lead's too predictable this year.

omar! said...

The contenders in the Lead Category are: hanks, dicaprio, caine, redmayne, fassbender, depp, cranston and cheadle
The contenders in the Supporting are: cooper, deniro, ramirez, ruffalo, keaton, hardy, keitel, del toro, rylance, edgerton, jackson, russell, Dern and Elba
So the Supporting category is more interesting than the Leading

Luke Higham said...

Omar!: And Jacob Tremblay in Room.

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

2012 Bonus Reviews

Mads Mikkelsen-The Hunt, A Royal Affair

Bengt C.W Carlson-Lycka till och ta hand om varandra/Good Luck And Take Care Of Each Other

Johannes Brost-Avalon

Andy Lau-A Simple Life (Don't know if it is eligible...)





RatedRStar said...

Umm I am gonna say A Simple Life is a 2012 film, even though it was recognized at pretty much all the 2011 Asian ceremonies, simply because it was first released to the public in 2012.

Anonymous said...

John Smith:

I came up with two more for 2012, it is from an Indian movie called Gangs Of Wasseypur 1 AND 2 and trust me this is not a movie with people dancing and smiling, this is a truth full portrayal of rural India.

Gangs Of Wasseypur-Manoj Bajpai

Gangs Of Wasseypur 2-Nawazuddin Siddiqui
John Smith
Louis Please Give This Movie And It's Performance A Watch When You Get The Chance

Watch this:

Gangs Of Wasseypur 1 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-AkWDkXcMY

Gangs Of Wasseypur 2 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3PZbL8JGYQ


ruthiehenshallfan99 said...

Everyone: You top ten films of the 1940s

1. The Song of Bernadette
2. Casablanca
3. That Hamilton Woman
4. The Heiress
5. The Ghost and Mrs. Muir
6. Gilda
7. It's a Wonderful Life
8. Mrs. Miniver
9. Waterloo Bridge
10. Now, Voyager

Anonymous said...

ruthiehenshallfan99:
1. It's A Wonderful Life
2. Double Indemnity
3. The Third Man
4. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
5. Rebecca
6. Citizen Kane
7. Shadows of a Doubt
8. Odd Man Out
9. Casablanca
10. Brief Encounters