Tuesday, 30 September 2014

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1983: Results

5. Burt Lancaster in Local Hero- Lancaster gives a fairly delightful portrayal of his eccentric millionaire.

Best Scene: Happer arrives on the scene.
4. Don Ameche in Trading Places- Ameche is far less delightful than Lancaster, but instead gives a very funny portrayal of a particularly devious millionaire.


3. Ed Harris in The Right Stuff - Harris rather brilliantly is able to create both the facade and the reality of an All-American Hero.

Best Scene: Glenn talks about his image with his wife.
2. Mickey Rourke in Rumble Fish- Rourke gives a striking stylistic performance that matches the style of his film and the nature of his character incredibly well.

Best Scene: The Motorcycle Boy appears.
1. Darren McGavin in A Christmas Story- Good Predictions GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar, Michael Patison, and Michael McCarthy. McGavin easily stands as my win for his absolutely hilarious yet still rather heartwarming performance.

Best Scene: The Old Man receives his major award.
Overall Rank:
  1. Darren McGavin in A Christmas Story
  2. Sam Shepard in The Right Stuff
  3. Mickey Rourke in Rumble Fish
  4. Ed Harris in The Right Stuff
  5. Don Ameche in Trading Places
  6. William Hurt in The Big Chill
  7. Ralph Bellamy in Trading Places
  8. Ed Harris in Under Fire
  9. Jeff Goldblum in The Big Chill
  10. Burt Lancaster in Local Hero
  11. Edward Fox in The Dresser
  12. Ian McDiarmid in The Return of the Jedi
  13. Dennis Quaid in The Right Stuff 
  14. Matt Dillon in The Outsiders
  15. Rip Torn in Cross Creek
  16. Klaus Maria Brandauer in Never Say Never Again
  17. Denholm Elliot in Trading Places
  18. Tom Berenger in The Big Chill
  19. Gene Hackman in Under Fire
  20. Jeff Daniels in Terms of Endearment 
  21. Sebastian Shaw in The Return of the Jedi
  22. Ralph Macchio in The Outsiders 
  23. Herbert Lom in The Dead Zone
  24. Charles Durning in To Be Or Not To Be
  25. Christopher Lloyd in To Be Or Not To Be
  26. Peter Dvorsky in Videodrome
  27. Fred Ward in The Right Stuff
  28. Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone
  29. Fulton Mackay in Local Hero
  30. George Rose in The Pirates of Penzance
  31. Jean Shepherd in A Christmas Story 
  32. Reiner Schwarz in Videodrome
  33. Jose Ferrer in To Be Or Not To Be
  34. Scott Glenn in The Right Stuff
  35. Jack Nicholson in Terms of Endearment
  36. Cliff Robertson in Star 80 
  37. Dennis Hopper in Rumble Fish
  38. Jean Louis Trintignant in Under Fire
  39. Wilford Brimley in Tender Mercies
  40. Steven Bauer in Scarface
  41. John Lithgow in Terms of Endearment
  42. R.D. Robb in A Christmas Story
  43. Michael Caine in Honorary Consul
  44. Jeff Goldblum in The Right Stuff
  45. Harry Shearer in The Right Stuff
  46. Billy Dee Williams in The Return of the Jedi
  47. Pat Hingle in Sudden Impact
  48. Kurt Russell in Silkwood
  49. Joe Pantoliano in Risky Business
  50. Bob Hoskins in Honorary Consul
  51. Scott Schwartz in A Christmas Story
  52. Emilio Estevez in The Outsiders
  53. Curtis Armstrong in Risky Business
  54. Max von Sydow in Never Say Never Again
  55. George Wyner in To Be Or Not To Be
  56. Paul Gleason in Trading Places 
  57. Fred Ward in Uncommon Valor
  58. Clancy Brown in Bad Boys
  59. Harrison Ford in The Return of the Jedi
  60. Desmond Llewelyn in Octopussy 
  61. Kevin Kline in The Big Chill 
  62. F. Murray Abraham in Scarface
  63. Michael Gough in The Dresser
  64. Craig T. Nelson in Silkwood
  65. Reni Santoni in Bad Boys 
  66. Roberts Blossom in Reuben, Reuben
  67. Tim Matheson in To Be Or Not To Be
  68. Patrick Swayze in The Outsiders
  69. Ron Silver in Silkwood
  70. Peter Capaldi in Local Hero
  71. Fred Ward in Silkwood
  72. Rowan Atkinson in Never Say Never Again
  73. Patrick Swayze in Uncommon Valor
  74. Simon MacCorkindale in Jaws 3-D
  75. Laurence Fishburne in Rumble Fish
  76. Louis Gossett Jr. in Jaws 3-D
  77. Peter Coyote in Cross Creek
  78. Randy Quaid in National Lampoon's Vacation
  79. Danny DeVito in Terms of Endearment
  80. Malcolm McDowell in Cross Creek
  81. Roger Rees in Star 80
  82. Anthony Michael Hall in National Lampoon's Vacation
  83. Nicolas Cage in Rumble Fish
  84. Reb Brown in Uncommon Valor
  85. Robert Loggia in Scarface
  86. Edward Fox in Never Say Never Again
  87. Paul Drake in Sudden Impact
  88. Robert Vaughn in Superman III
  89. Louis Jourdan in Octopussy
Next Year: 1953 Lead


Psifonian said...

Montgomery Clift, I Confess
Chishu Ryu, Tokyo Story
Glenn Ford, The Big Heat
James Stewart, The Glenn Miller Story
James Mason, The Desert Rats

GM said...

Alec Guinness - The Captain's Paradise
Edward G. Robinson - Vice Squad
James Stewart - The Naked Spur
Marlon Brando - The Wild One
Montgomery Clift - I Confess
Montgomery Clift - Indiscretion of an American Wife
Richard Widmark - Pickup on South Street
Yves Montand - The Wages of Fear

Anonymous said...

Thoughts and rantings on The Outsiders cast

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

McGavin takes the year? All is forgiven for the 2004 debacle.

Anonymous said...

Brando in The Wild one for sure.

Mark said...

So Louis, where does McGavin rank on your overall top 10? Also, ratings and thoughts on Ian McDiarmid and Sebastion Shaw in Return of the Jedi.

Anonymous said...

Ratings and thoughts on Meryl Streep and Cher in Silkwood

Anonymous said...

Oh, suggestions:
James Mason, Julius Caesar
Richard Widmark, Pickup on South Street
Marlon Brando, The Wild One
Glenn Ford, The Big Heat
Montgomery Clift, I Confess

Michael McCarthy said...

James Mason-Julius Caesar
Masayuki Mori-Ugetsu (one of my winning requests)
Eitaro Ozawa-Ugetsu
Marlon Brando-The Wild One
Richard Widmark-Pickup on South Street

Also, since I've yet to pick a 2000's performance for my winning request, I'm gonna go with Morgan Freeman in Gone Baby Gone for 2007 Supporting.

Michael McCarthy said...

Also, what were your ratings and thoughts for Bellamy in Trading Places and Harris in Under Fire?

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Really, Freeman? I thought Titus Welliver was better in that movie to be honest.

Michael McCarthy said...

It's been a while but I remember finding his character very interesting. Maybe I should rewatch it in the near future but for now I'm sticking to it.

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

In a year that gave us Sam Rockwell in Jesse James, Ben Foster in 3:10 to Yuma, John Carroll Lynch in Zodiac, Ethan Hawke and Albert Finney in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, and a few others, I can't fathom putting Freeman in that lineup.

Matt Mustin said...

Ed Harris is the MVP of Gone Baby Gone.

Anonymous said...

Also, can we have your thoughts/ratings on the Supporting Actress nominees that year (the ladies in Silkwood, Amy Irving in Yentl, Alfre Woodard in Cross Creek). Also your thoughts/ratings on Linda Hunt in The Year of Living Dangerously (even though she is 1982 by your rules)?

Michael Patison said...

I don't have a request right now, so I'll hold it off until a later date.

For 1953 Lead:
Marlon Brando in The Wild One
Glenn Ford in The Big HeatAlan Ladd in Shane
James Stewart in The Naked Spur
Richard Widmark in Pickup on South Street

Michael Patison said...

OK I lied. I looked through and found something to request:
James Spader in sex, lies, and videotape (the only Soderbergh movie I've loved) for 1989 Lead

Michael Patison said...

I swear this is the last one:
Ratings for:
Ralph Bellamy in Trading Places
Ed Harris in Under Fire

(I couldn't find if you'd already done them; sorry if you have)

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...


Okay, my request would be Johnny Depp in Edward Scissorhands for 1991...but has anyome requested that already?

Kevin said...

I think it has already been requested by Robert

koook160 (Robert MacFarlane) said...

Yes I did request him. But I will gladly forfeit the request to GDSAO and switch my request to Sam Rockwell for 2007 Supporting for The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

:D:D gee thanks Robert!!

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

Also, Louis, thoughts/ratings if you don't mind on Edward Fox in The Dresser

RatedRStar said...

James Mason - Julius Caesar
Clifton Webb - Titanic
Charles Vanel - The Wages Of Fear
Marlon Brando - The Wild One
Montgomery Clift - I Confess

RatedRStar said...

I love both Clift and Mason as actors but, I really want Clift to win for From Here To Eternity, I just think that is a crowning achievement, basically if there is no one that has seen the film, just watch the scene of him playing the brass instrument, his face, omg there arent many actors that can do that.

Louis, can I ask what did you make to Montgomery Clift in that famous scene? I would say it should have cemented him as one of the all time greats.

Also, James Mason will one of these I just know it, and it should be for The Verdict for 1982 supporting, there is no way in hell Louis is going to give Mason about 14 nominations and no wins its just impossible and very cruel and Louis knows it.

Anonymous said...

@RatedRStar: I've seen From Here to Eternity and the scene you pointed out is great. Personally I found Clift easily the MVP of the movie, even if I really liked Lancaster as well. Clift was amazing anyway and what's so great is that he managed to share good chemistries with both Frank Sinatra and Donna Reed while both of them were rather lacking in their performance (how Ritter's heartbreaking performance lost for Reed is beyond my understanding)

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

I'm just hoping that William Holden gets in the top 5, Stalag 17just gets better and better every time I watch it.

Anonymous said...

@RatedRStar, Is your favorite film of 1982 The Verdict?

Scott Gingold said...

Marlon Brando, The Wild One
James Mason, Julius Caesar
Tony Curtis, Houdini
Vincent Price, House of Wax
Alan Ladd, Shane
Van Heflin, Shane (supporting?)
Joseph Cotten, Niagara (supporting?)
David Niven, The Moon is Blue (supporting?)

RatedRStar said...

@Anonymous: Nope, The Year Of Living Dangerously is.

Mark said...

@RatedRStar: I thought that movie came out in 1983.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@RatedRStar: what are your thoughts and ratings on,

Francis Ng in 2000 A.D. and Juliet in Love
Andy Lau in Running out of Time
Alex Fong in Your Place or Mine
Angelica Lee in The Eye
Aaron Kwok in After this Our Exile

Michael McCarthy said...

Just rewatched Gone Baby Gone, and I'm sticking with my request.

RatedRStar said...

@Mark: It is a little strange since numerous sites say 1982, others say 1983, I have to go with what Wikipedia said which was 17th December 1982 (as many times as it sometimes gets it wrong) also, I will be very surprised if Louis doesnt see it at some point, Mel Gibson at his finest =D.

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: Have you been looking up the HK film awards by any chance haha =) its funny how all of these were nominated or won =D lol.

Francis Ng in Juliet (4) It is very interesting to see the usually angry Francis play a much more quiet and reserved character, I think he pulls it off quite nicely and has a good amount of charm as well as chemistry with Sandra Ng.

Francis Ng in 2000 AD (4.5) I should say the film is terrible with nearly everyone mugging it, Ng easily steals the film giving a compassionate performance as a rather sad policeman, I actually think the script trys to make the character seem 1 dimensional but Ng never makes it so. I am glad he finally won his Hong kong award but, I think you know Donald who my choice would have been =D if u see the nominees.

Andy Lau (4.5) I was very entertained by his performance, despite him being a badass anti hero it plays very similar to his Infernal Affairs performance as being quite likable and easy to watch, he has fantastic chemistry with Lau Ching Wan and his death scene is quite sad and effect (Thunderbolt and Lightfoot style)

Alex Fong (5) I gave a 3 way tie between Fong and two other actors for that years category because it is so hard to choose, Louis might be surprised that Fongs 2 best performances are comedic roles since he is usually a serious actor, he plays the awkward office worker quite brilliantly and just looking at his attempt to chat up women is done so awkwardly that it is classic, he is also great in his scenes where he feels depressed that no one would want him., and stands as a great contrast to Tony Leung Chiu Wais entertaining womanising performance lol.

Angelica Lee (3.5) I think this is a bit of an overrated performance, I think she does a good job during the scenes where she is terrorised and is certainly believable, but I feel her back story and scare heavy script lets her down as I never really got to know her character at all.

Aaron Kwok (3.5) Probably his best performance which is saying very little, to be fair he does give a solid performance as he actually tones down that overacting, despite him still playing an angry reactive character, his scenes with Goum Ian Iskandar are very good and moving, but his scenes of abuse seem a little forced even though I think Kwok does try to make it seem believable.

RatedRStar said...

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: I should say that even though I wouldnt have given Francis Ng his award for 2000 AD or Juliet In love, there is one that I would have given him the win for =).

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...


I have indeed been looking up the awards haha.

Roy Cheung I am guessing over Ng for 2000 AD and Juliet :) what performance are you referring to? haha

RatedRStar said...

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: =D Roy Cheung indeed, for supporting that is, and Tony Leung Ka Fai for best actor for the same film, and that Francis Ng performance would be Infernal Affairs II

JackiBoyz said...

@RatedRStar: What would you say was the best LGBT Hong Kong performance, and what would be the worst LGBT HK performance.

GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar said...

@RatedRStar: Ah yes, he is great in Infernal Affairs II.

Have you seen Dog Bite Dog with one of my new favourite HK actors Sam Lee and a surprisingly solid Edison Chen?

RatedRStar said...

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: I have indeed seen Dog Bite Dog, Edison Chen is usually a poor actor, but I thought he was fine enough here as a completely monstrous killer, Sam Lee is amazing though, I was quite shocked how brutal he played this role, he was actually more vicious and creepy than Chen was as the corrupt officer, Sam Lee (despite looking quite skinny and weak in person lol, ) actually seems to handle these violent unpredictable roles very well =D, it is a great contrast to his endearing slob performance in Beast Cops lol.

I should also say Sam Lee as well as Francis Ng and Chang Chen (who also gave great performances) all lost the golden horse award 2006 to.......Aaron Kwok =(.

@Jackiboyz: There are quite a few great ones from actors like Tony Leung Chiu Wai and Leslie Cheung but I would say The Michael Fassbender of Hong Kong of course gave the best performance =D,

As for the worst, well its tricky, but after talking about Francis Ng and Roy Cheung in the 2000 category, Eason Chan in Lavender would be my choice, a bad gay stereotype at its most silly.

RatedRStar said...

@GetDonaldSutherlandAnOscar: And to think, that Sam Lee has only been nominated for a single acting hk award for best supporting actor (he did win a best newcomer award but thats it)

RatedRStar said...

@Jackiboyz: LIU YEEEEE =D

Louis Morgan said...

Anonymous: It's been a long time since I've seen it but:

Howell - 2.5(Ponyboy is not a particularly interesting role in that he's suppose to be as neutral as a character gets. He's actually fine enough given the restrictions of the part, but that also means he in no ways stands out)

Dillon - 4(Certainly preferred his realistic tough in this film over his stylized one in Rumble Fish. Dillon manages to do a nice balance between being genuine in being a loutish thug while having a certain charisma about him. He particularly delivers in his final scenes being rather heartbreaking in his portrayal of Dallas's breakdown)

Macchio - 3.5(Macchio is an expert at meekness and does that quite well though bringing the underlying intensity to suggest his capability for violence. He makes Johnny wholly sympathetic as he should and he certainly was very well cast in the role)

Swayze - 3(Swayze has a few off line delivers from time to time, but overall I thought he did a fair enough job of playing the stern nature of the character while still suggesting a certain warmth beneath it)

Estevez - 3(As the comic relief of sorts Estevez does a fine enough job of bringing an off-beat charm without being too over the top)

I don't really recall much about Lowe or Cruise other than his part being unsubstantial.


McDiarmid - 4(Much of The Return of Jedi has some problems, particularly what they did to poor Han Solo, but the Luke, Vadar and Emperor stuff is great. It's funny how effective a performance can be under a certain direction, and how problematic it can be under another. Although the Emperor was way overused in the third prequel and admittedly McDiarmid hammed it up, he's one of the highlights of the third film. McDiarmid's performance technically isn't that different he just doesn't dial everything up to eleven. Instead a little quieter with much more menace, and conveys that evil of his character actually as a powerful force)

Shaw - (What they did to him in that re-release was particularly unforgivable since he gave more life to Anakin as character than Christensen did in two whole films. Anyway Shaw's a one scene wonder to be sure. He sums of the tragedy of Vadar in just a few minutes and allows the end of his character to be quite poignant)

Louis Morgan said...


Streep - 4.5(She's very good here as she does quite a few mannerisms but they always feel natural to her character rather than unnecessary showboating. She's interesting as the passionate crusader role Streep kinda underplays that instead presenting the negative qualities of her character along with the passion creating a rather interesting portrait of her character)

Cher - 4.5(Kudos to her as I thought she completely disappeared in the part something would seem unlikely for Cher. She technically doesn't have any big scenes and its one of those truly supporting supporting performances. She shows there is no need for big scenes though by offering such emotional honest in her work while realizing the character so vividly)

Michael McCarthy:

Bellamy - 4(Very close to a 4.5, just like Harris. Bellamy and Ameche are great together because they manage to portray characters who could have been exactly the same to be completely different. Bellamy's also quite entertaining in doing his genial old man act while having this sinister quality in every one of his gentle smiles)

Harris - 4(He's only in a few scenes without much screen time, but I thought he made the strongest impact in the film. He delivers such a viciously acerbic portrayal of his cynical mercenary, and steals every scene he is in. I particularly love his final scene where Harris shows him as having no regrets for his actions, and smiling at the thought of the idea of the next war)


Haven't watched Yentl, or The Year of Living Dangerously.

Woodard - 3.5(She offers some fine support and manages to make her character seem lived in quite well without succumbing to relative simplicity of the character)


Fox - 4(He gave a rather terrible performance in Never Say Never Again, but he's really quite good her. He does the prima donna pompousness perfectly and his confidant smugness works as a great contrast to Finney's performance. I also love though when he goes to help Courtenay in creating the storm)

RatedRStar: What more can I say other than that he's perfect in that say. I have to say though I also think William Holden is perfect in the scene where he figures out who the traitor is in Stalag 17.

RatedRStar said...

@Louis: I might need to watch Stalag 17 again sometime, I really liked Holden, but the film was, kinda odd, lol and I dont really know why, I didnt really get a lot of the humour im afraid.

Louis Morgan said...

Mark: Almost forget my All-Time Supporting Line-UP

1. Robert Shaw - Jaws
2. Dennis Hopper - Blue Velvet
3. Martin Landau - Ed Wood
4. Richard Jordan - Gettysburg
5. Christopher Walken - The Deer Hunter
6. John Cazale - The Godfather Part II
7. Gene Hackman - Unforgiven
8. Darrin McGavin - A Christmas Story
9. Dana Andrews - The Ox-Bow Incident
10. Edward G. Robinson - Double Indemnity